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From Protesting Vietnam to Demanding "Safe Spaces" – What Happened To America's College Kids?
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
I grew up hearing stories of protest. About those years, a decade or so before I was born, during which America’s youth rebelled against the prevailing establishment, and forever changed the nation’s course in some meaningful ways.
Of course, many of you will accurately state that not much about the imperial state has actually changed since those days of protest, and that in fact, the out of control abuse of power both abroad and at home has gotten far worse in the subsequent decades. I will concede this point, but want to add a caveat. Certain things really did change, particularly with regard to racial discrimination in these United States. Not to say things are perfect, but to discount the significant gains achieved in this regard would be unfair.
Nevertheless, as far as the “shadow government” is concerned, not much has changed. Other than the fact that the status quo learned important lessons from those years of rebellion, and was forced to operate even more secretly than it did before. As an example, the military-industrial complex learned that it couldn’t have genuine journalists running around war zones after images taken in Vietnam shocked the nation and helped turn popular sentiment against it. As such, reporters in war zones these days are nothing more than propagandists and imperial shills. Indeed, increasingly effective propaganda and a captured corporate media has probably been the single most important tool used by the shadow government to maintain and consolidate control over all these years. In a nutshell, people have been dumbed down, as well as mentally and emotionally castrated, to the point of being almost unable to rebel against anything of real importance.
Which brings me to the point of this post. The reason I brought up the civil disobedience and activism of the 1960’s, is because it did at least represent a true conflict with that generation’s status quo, and it did in fact attempt to tackle some of the pressing issues of power, justice and freedom that existed at the time. This is in stark contrast to what passes as “activism” on college campuses today, which essentially amounts to “pro-censorship” students vigilantly defending an entirely invented and unconstitutional right to “not be offended.” Whereas the 60’s movements, for all their failings, were at least ostensibly about freedom (of the mind and body), today’s college movements are strikingly focused on shackling the mind, and turning campuses in unintellectual, zombie-filled wastelands.
Of course, while someone like myself might be tempted to just laugh off such infantile and pathetic “activism,” it is in fact one of the most dangerous trends facing modern American society. You’d think that a culture in which the most vibrant source of college protest centered around the defense of a non-existent right to not be offended, would be one where all other issues of national importance had been successfully addressed.
You’d never know there was an ongoing surveillance state panopticon systematically spying on everyone and trampling their constitutional rights. You’d never know that the U.S. government has special forces in 135 countries as it launches new wars almost every other week. You’d never know that the Federal Reserve, Washington D.C. and Wall Street had colluded to redirect all wealth into the hands of a few oligarchs via a centrally planned, criminally corrupt economic and financial system. You’d never know any of this, because America’s youth are focused on creating safe spaces for their precious feelings.
So this begs the question. Does intent matter? For all its failings, at least the 60’s protesters actually attempted to confront real issues, and sometimes even paid the highest price for doing so. Today’s college youth are not only not confronting any of the pressing issues of the day, but they aren’t risking anything at all, because they are the establishment.
For example, in almost all cases where coddled, thin-skinned students claim their feelings are hurt, school administrators bend over backwards to appease them, legality notwithstanding (see: Speechless – UCLA Engages in Absurd, Anti-Intellectual and Dangerous Attack on Campus Free Speech). In fact, if anyone is being discriminated against, it’s those rare and courageous professors who publicly stand up to this unconstitutional nonsense. Which brings me to today’s post about an ongoing incident at Yale.
As the always excellent Lenore Skenazy explains in her post: Mob of Yale Students Scream Profanities about Halloween Costume Insensitivity:
A Halloween message signed by 13 college administrators asked Yale students to be sensitive about the costumes they chose, so as not to demean, alienate or “impact” any groups or individuals.
But when the associate Master (faculty head) of one of the dorms on campus, early childhood educator Erika Christakis, wrote her own note to students suggesting that maybe we don’t want the authorities deciding what costume is or is not sensitive enough, you’d think she’d endorsed genocide.
Students, hundreds of them, insisted they longer felt “safe.” They protested. They screamed. They demanded her ouster, even though in her letter, Christakis bent over backwards to say that she knows that the costume guidelines came from “a spirit of avoiding hurt and offense.” What’s more:
I laud those goals, in theory, as most of us do. But in practice, I wonder if we should reflect…on the consequences of an institutional (which is to say: bureaucratic and administrative) exercise of implied control over college students.
…As a former preschool teacher…it is hard for me to give credence to a claim that there is something objectionably “appropriative” about a blonde-haired child’s wanting to be Mulan for a day….
Even if we could agree on how to avoid offense – and I’ll note that no one around campus seems overly concerned about the offense taken by religiously conservative folks to skin-revealing costumes– I wonder, and I am not trying to be provocative: Is there no room anymore for a child or young person to be a little bit obnoxious… a little bit inappropriate or provocative or, yes, offensive?
Well said, but here’s what happened next…
Over 700 angry Yalies (my alma mater) signed a petition saying that Christakis’ “offensive” letter “trivializes the harm done by these tropes” (stereotypes) and “invalidated” those hurt.
As the days passed, the outrage mounted, a until a mob surrounded Christakis’ husband, the sociologist/doctor/professor Nicholas. He is seen in this video being screamed at by a student swearing at him and insisting he and his wife step down, because their job is not to create an intellectual space, but a “safe space” for students.
Watch the video:
Did you hear that? She claimed, in a completely unhinged rant, college “is not about creating an intellectual space.”
I have a two week year old infant at home, and I’ve yet to see him throw a temper tantrum anywhere in the ballpark of that student’s performance. Which confirms my belief, that my new role as father is the most important job I’ve ever taken on in my life, and one I take very seriously.
As such I want to leave you with the following question:
With students being coddled in a fantasy world of “safe spaces” and fear of “micro-aggressions,” can we really expect them to grow up to be adults capable of confronting real issues of money, power and imperial aggression?
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Ohh Boy. Didn’t we have this conversation last night?
I detect some micro-aggression in your comment and whoever down voted you needs a time out.
edit - hey Tylers, now they're down voting me!! I need a safe area....help!
Your sexist avatar is causing me to have impure thoughts.
Accordingly to San Harris impure thoughts do not undermine morality. Your actions do.
Where were you 5 mintues ago?
Cooking Penne pasta.
we need the draft to fix this...
The Feds force schools to let boys who think they are girls use the girls' locker room. I wonder if the Feds excuse boys who think they are girls from signing up with Selective Service?
The Feds force schools to let boys who think they are girls use the girls' locker room.
If true, I can envision a lot of young boys claiming to have this "disabilty."
Of course, while someone like myself might be tempted to just laugh off such infantile and pathetic “activism,” it is in fact one of the most dangerous trends facing modern American society.
I don't know about it being among the most dangerous trends facing modern America, but it is the most irritating.
This girl should do what she threatens to do: leave Yale. If these kids are so upset about being offended they should do something constructive and start their own institutions. See how easy it is to keep all your like minded comrades happy.
Only reason anyone gives a shit is because they are at Yale and the whole halloween pc clusterfuck has turned into a horrible embarrassment to the school.
If true, I can envision a lot of young boys claiming to have this "disabilty."
U.S.: Illinois transgender student must get full locker room accesshttp://www.cnn.com/2015/11/03/us/illinois-school-district-transgender-ru...
No shit. The smart boys will be out buying wigs later this week.
That would actually make a great protest. All the boys use the girls' room and all the girls use the boys' room. Project Mayhem!
So, the really smart boys will just wait in the boys room and do nothing and wait for the girls to arrive.
The really smart boys and girls will request home schooling.
If there is a draft in the future, will there be a tranny exception? Also, would you get some tits to avoid a war? Estrogen injections? Chop your dick off?
Her parents must be so....
Also, would you get some tits to avoid a war? Estrogen injections? Chop your dick off?
The Feds require none of this in order to gain access to the girls room. Boys who think that they are girls are welcome, penis and all.
the girl is mentally ill, just like that kook who is carrying around a matress.
THIS ARTICLE IS CHOCK FULL OF MICROAGRESSIONS LIKE ZOMBIE-SHAMING!!!
Petulant
adjective 1. moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, especially over some trifling annoyance
There is nothing new under the sun. We already know what happens to people whose whims are overindulged.
Also, don't forget the non-sexual third genders being rolled out at universities: Start telling people your pronoun is "xhe" and you get out of the draft free!
BTW, dollars to donuts the government will simply make the draft universal if this catches on.
She is learning to rule, to rule create guilt in the subject and then use it against them, a lot of 'people' lost their lives building the railroads, this generation and the next, and probably the next as well, will have to pay for that, it is the only way to assuage the pain and redress the greivences of the ancestors, no slight must ever be forgotten as it might be useful in the future!
When shit finally pops, the whiny little bitches will have zero say in what the other side looks like. Not all millennials are like that. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that most wish these motherfuckers would just shut the fuck up. It's funny, because I talked with my niece who is in college about this this afternoon. I mentioned joining tumbler to troll the fuck out of these fuckers, and she thought it was a great idea.
YES! YES!!!!
I am one of the Millenials you are talking about. I am sick to death of these PC morons. In my case, my main way to "hit back" now is to start giving away a lot of my ideas. Computer code and natural cosmetics/chemical products in my case (think soap); I'm sure there's tons of knowledge among members here.
Some of my old colleagues form grad school ask why I'm not trying to patent it all and form a big company. The reason is because I don't want to see my ideas end up being bought up by Wall Street, with the PC morons worming their way into any HR department. Instead, I dream of a thousand new small businesses, where free men are more able to "drop out" and unplug from the Matrix.
I actually have hope for many of the younger people, who like you seem get it and have started taking action, even individually. Local news from today, for example:
http://www.macon.com/news/local/article44070723.html
All Cannon Fodder is equally dead in the eyes of The State.
I've seen this in London night clubs- mens toilets full of chicks
That broad be do trippining.
This controvery and not only gay as hell but still retarded.
I hate to bring this up but that tantrum says more about the young lady.
Pay attention to her concern: …. feels like Yale was no longer a “safe space” for her.
Wonder if a white young lady there would feel the same way.
Classism and racism are endemic, and dangerous to any class system. Yale is getting a taste of it.
So called classism and racism are ideas designed to keep the little guy down by telling him that he could never possibly succeed without the help of the elites who really, really care about him.
that's why kleptocrats prefer charity to collabration - it reinforces the dependence
Class = Favoritism = Civil War.
Where's the "safe space" for the teacher? He's being verbally harangued in public by someone who is clearly unhinged and angry. If I were in his position, I would fear being struck by the irate woman if I said something to upset her.
In fact, that's the question that needs to be asked. "Hey, where's my safe space?"
Like you said yesterday, if we all ignore it can't it just go away? This loud mouthed 'activism' seems to have escalated since Bernie Sanders allowed those idiots to take over his mike. I don't imagine the Donald will allow that.
If she was taking care of babies and making sandwiches, supporting a hard working providing husband, she'd be a lot happier.
Feminsm is a lie. Telling young women to go to college and focus on a career rather than a more natural and satisfying life of being a good mother to the next generation.
Corporate jobs suck. They are not the end all be all. For men or women.
But by convincing large numbesr of otherwise quality young women to forego children and marriage is turning them into a bunch of bitter post wall cat ladies on anti-depressants, frantically trying to use fertility treatments to have a kid (nevermind facts that show that womens' fertility is highest between 18-25, or facts that show kids had later in life are more likely to be fucked up, iether mentally or physically.
Who invented feminsm? Qui bono from turning promising future mothers into washed up, 1000 cock stare, childless, bitter cat ladies?
Qui Bono?
Some semitic banksters and semitic intellectuals hell bent on the white genocide, that's who.
If you can't see it, they you're either one of them, or you're no better than the zombies on Walking Dead.
2¢
I don't entirely appreciate you talking about my ex-wife like that. Otherwise, feminism is the big lie.
Wish I'd thought of that when I was a teen ... Oh wait the school wouldn't have put up with that nonsense back then and laughed me off the planet.
and in Yugoslavia we used to grab girls boobs i(when we were about 12) and nobody made any fuss about it
In the USSA, you would be required to register as a Sex Offender, and exiled from going within 1000ft of schools. Not a bad gig if you want to home school your rugrats.
I know my nephew told me that's how it is in Canada too.
I am still friends with those girls whose boobs I used to grab back in late 70s
The movie " Porky's" would not be made, today.
Most of the hi- jinx and fun are felonies now.
The rest are so politically incorrect, you would think the world is ending.
P/S, I almost got thrown out of the theatre for laughing so hard.
Tallywacker, sketch artist, Kim Cantrell wailing.
the more confused and the more irrationally competitive - the better for the kleptocrats
no no no...They will just require gurlz to sign up too. Moar enslavement
....bytchez!!!
Send her to one of those 'immigrant camps' in Europe and let her scream in some mans face. Id venture a bet that her attitude would be changed...for the last two minutes of her life.
Maybe Yale can get one of those roid monster resource officer-cops.
She was admitted because more qualified white and Asian students were passed over. Has she considered their feelings?
Those kids are in my coding class, getting marketable skills while skipping the debt. We should all start doing this, screw the universities!
Penne pasta! That's offensive to name pasta, it makes other pasta varieties that have more difficult names to pronounce feel bad, and confused about their orientation. the humanity! The humanity! Shoot me now please.
Where my mind goes, my naughty bit is soon to follow !!!
Your impure thoughts offend my sense of decency and it makes me mad.
US $ up 7% in few weeks. who care??? FED raises rate, the $ increases...ok for us but big problem for rest of world because trillion of debt in the world is dominated in $. So billions of people just became poorer by about 7%. Their debt will be harder to repay. The FED can't raise rates because of the insability this creates in the rest of the world.
Excuse me, Sir, we are shitting on millenials right now your financial insights will have to wait.
NoDecaf
Thanks. I'll make sure to keep in mind to scream for Tyler’s help about my down votes.
Just in case my micro-aggression gets out of hand.
you know, it's the mezzo-aggression™ ya gotta watch out for....
my favorite quote from that sweet little PC dustup was: "stop instigating more debate!"
I am feeling your nano-aggression.
Affirmative Action: You know it when you see it.
Just don't cause any "hurt feelings". In Europe you can go to jail for that. Even if "someone" falsely claimed that you did. Some "people" get rich doing that.
Seems the indoctrination has worked better than they ever hoped for. These little shits have got a lot of surprises in store for them. Get used to that basement kiddies!
On the contrary. These youthful idiots who actively refuse to learn to think are just the sort who'll get snapped up into today's kinds of high-paying jobs.
Just imagine how things will be when a bunch of them get to the level of writing federal regulations and enforcing them far beyond the walls of Yale.
"Thinking makes my brain hurt."
I'm thinking that the girl in the video missed an important meeting with her dad's belt on her little pampered bottom...
The poor girl is ill equipped to deal with the competition in the marketplace let alone labeling everything unsafe and micro-agressive.
I dealt with a little snot like this years ago, I told her if she didn't STFU I was going to pop her head off and Sh*t in her neck.
She immediately burst into tears and ran an hid in the manager's office. After the dust settled, she never got in my way again, in fact she would move heaven and earth to keep on the opposite side of the hallway whenever we would occupy it at the same time.
How would this little princess in the yale video behave if someone got a little verbally agressive with her? Probably go try to find a safe room with teddy bears and legos...
DaddyO
Let it be so
How he should have replied...." Who Bitch this is?"
I thought they were filming a segment for the "Onion". Someone dig up Allen Funt, you can't make this stuff up.
Apparently the "Spoiled Indignant Bitch" costume is very fashionable (and PC) this year.
"This is going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me."
I love that one. Another one that I love is "I don't get even. I teach lessons."
If I had a nickel for every time the priest said that to me after mass....
If she were white, asian, or indian then I'd say you're right. But since she's black(ish) there is a 75% she doesn't know who her father is and was raised by a single mom.
You go grrrl!
Actually, somebody needs to pull a Cary Grant and slap some sense into that hysterical bitch. Remember in old movies when women would get hysterical and a MAN would slap them to bring them back down to a calm and rational state? That shit worked, and a slapping deficit is creating these misandrous, violent, and confused females who without male leadership and protection, will end up as bitter antidepressant munching cat ladies.
Fed.gov will hire that "student" and put her in charge of punishing unauthorized thoughts
The Veterans Admin loves them some diversity. I believe they're around 65% black.
@MissCellany - Your comment stuck in the knife... and turned it.
My sincerest apologies, Ignatius. I wasn't in any way trying to micro-aggress against anyone here. ;^)
Well, if you consider the "future" being planned by Aston Carter, and McInsane, your future Federal employees may not have a Federal anything to work for.
WW3 might well result in the loss of certain "employment opportunities" :-)
Perfect government toadies.
"Just imagine how things will be when a bunch of them get to the level of writing federal regulations and enforcing them far beyond the walls of Yale"
Its already here........
No kidding. That girl would be quite the catch for the Federal bureaucracy, say the EPA. I can just see her adult-self screaming profanities at some small business owner she just bankrupted--after he meekly suggests her actions are "arbitrary and unfair".
a have a few friends that age in SF (recent grads). Full of fear and experts at covering their own asses no matter what while remaining servile as necessary. Jealeous of their own best friends etc. They rely on their i-phones even to walk around san Francisco (so most of them end up walking or driving through Van Ness - probably the bussies and most pollutes street in SF. If I tell them I know a better short cut with better views and cleaner air - they find it impossible to believe so they do what their phones tell them to. And they al lhave the same laptops and same phones.
I taught a few of these friends how to spot and deal with psychopaths / bullying at work . It really helped a few of them move to better jobs and get promoted. Bullying also stopped. It's thanks to their stories that I learned how hostlie work environments are in SF
Leftist ideologiy is fundamentally based around two things: 1) Absolutely everything is subjective. 2) Anything that anyone else has that I do not have must either be stolen or destroyed. Because I am envious of it.
It’s easy to understand when you realize how the mind of a leftist works. They’re not “pro”-rights of minorities, animals, women, impoverished nations, or any other cause for the disenfranchised behind which they claim to rally. Note that they always blame some successful, dominant group in society for the ills they oppose and seek to punish that group on behalf of the supposedly disenfranchised.
It is not and never has been about helping the downtrodden rise.
It is about destroying the successful, the effective, and the independent members of society. Not because they are doing anything that actually violates the rights of others, but precisely because they are successful, effective, and independent. Their sin is not some act of violence or fraud, but the mere state of being healthy human beings capable of sustaining themselves.
Rand called this “hatred of the good for being good,” and it embodies the soul of the modern left, or at least its useful idiot arm–SJWs, environmentalists, occupy, white knights, etc.). They will side with anything that is anti-US, anti-white male, anti-capitalist, and anti-Western.
Kaczynski made some comments on this tendency among leftists that were somewhat insightful, but I recommend reading Rand’s essay, The Age of Envy:
Today we live in the age of envy.
Envy is not the emotion I have in mind, but it is the clearest manifestation of an emotion that has remained nameless. It is the only eminent of a complex emotional sum that men have permitted themselves to identify.
Envy is regarded by most people as a petty, superficial emotion and, therefore, it serves as a semihuman cover for so inhuman an emotion that those who feel it seldom dare admit it even to themselves. That emotion is hatred. Hatred of the good for being good.
This hatred is not resentment against some prescribed view the good with which one does not agree. Hatred of the good for being the good means hatred of that which one regards as good by one’s own (conscious or subconscious) judgement. It means hatred of a person for possessing a value or virtue one regards as desirable.
If a child wants to get good grades in school, but is unable or unwilling to achieve them and begins to hate the children who do, that is hatred of the good. The nature of the particular value a man chooses to hold is not the primary factor in this issue (although irrational values may contribute a great deal to the formation of that emotion). The primary factor and distinguishing characteristic is an emotional mechanism set in reverse: a response of hatred, not toward human vices, but toward human virtues.
To be exact, the emotional mechanism is not set in reverse, but is set one way: its exponents do not experience love forever men. Their emotional range is limited to hatred or indifference. It is impossible to experience love, which is a response to values, when one’s automated response to values is hatred.
Tallest Skil,
You wrote: Leftist ideology is:
1) Everything is subjective
2) Anything that anyone has have to be stolen or destroyed because I am envious.
Would you care to elaborate on the Rightist ideology in how it would differ from 1 and 2.
Thanks.
What if we just accept the fact that each individual owns his own body rather than advocating one master class over another?
"Everybody's a winner!"
That way no tender feelings are hurt. You don't want to injure that Yute's brain givin ghim anythin gless then an "A" and pat on the back.
Hey Slave,
How about we dump all this right/left mumbo jumbo and just call these people what they are...
ILL EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH LIFE ON LIFE'S TERMS!
Crippled little infants playing in big people's bodies!
DaddyO
DaddyO,
ILL EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH LIFE ON LIFE'S TERMS!
I have no problem with this statement. There’s some validity to it. Heck, it could be used to describe many Hedgers.
However, there’s more to her anger. And, it ain’t pretty.
I love your comments Escrava Isaura
At least for me, 1) Objective truth exists. Meaning that there are some things–not all, of course–that are ALWAYS true, regardless of the way in which they are seen, the way in which they are presented, etc. Science, at the fundamental level, agrees with this worldview. And why try to contradict the way the universe itself works?
2) A man is entitled to the sweat of his brow. Work done, accomplishments made–they are to be praised, not punished. They are to be strived for through your own work, not demanded of without reason or cause. It is, thereafter, a man's morality and sense of righteousness that determines his will to work for others. What is charity but the WILL to lend (key word; not GIVE, but LEND) a hand to others? Charity is a choice. Forcing it, as is the case of institutionalized welfare, is not charity. People recoil when they are TOLD to give. People unite when they are trusted with the personal choice to give.
1) Facts are objective, opinions are subjective. www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/subjective
2) A man is entitled to the sweat of his brow. Well, go tell that to the slaves.
Anyway, there are so many critical errors with your statement. Let’s focus in two:
1) Change the money system from credit to floating money—debt free. That way you keep your sweat.
2) Understand that growth and growing demographics can not be sustained on a finite planet. So, prepared accordingly.
"Once a nation parts with the control of its currency and credit, it matters not who makes the nation's laws. ... Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most sacred responsibility, all talk of the sovereignty of parliament and of democracy is idle and futile." — Mackenzie King, Canadian Prime Minister 1935-1948.
2) A man is entitled to the sweat of his brow. Well, go tell that to the slaves.
Are you saying that people aren't entitled to the products of their labor because in some cases those products are stolen from them? Doesn't siding with thieves and killers over their victims make you feel just a little bit dirty?
May I suggest you to read my post again.
Especially the paragraph that says: Change the money system.
I read all of your post and questioned a part which made no sense. Would you care to clarify the point in question?
I'm thinking it's not so much Leftist ideology in play here...it's psycho-sociopathic ideology (er...so far as psycho-sociopaths can be said to have anything resembling an ideology).
These kids were raised with the 9/11 authoritarian mindset; protect us at the cost of our freedom, fear the boogie man that only the govt can protect you from, and anybody who steps out of line must be a terrorist. Get used to passive-aggressive witch-hunts with full approval of craven, careering bureaucrats as the Bill of Rights is made to disappear from the constitution as if it never existed. Beware this cultural revolution, the rationally non-conformist and sensibly outspoken will be its primary targets.
Good post. I smell a 'cutlural revolution' brewing.
Only this time around the older folks are armed. This ain't Mao's China (yet).
I won't live to see this country turn into that, or North Korea, which seems to be where the hive dwelling shitlibs would be most comfortable.
The SJWs are the new Nazis, and us whites, particularly those of Christian faith, heterosexuals, and those with traditional values and morals are the new Juden.
I won't be passivly boarding the cattle cars to help you create your social justice diverse utopia.
Tallest Skill nailed it. ENVY
But "equality" sounds better, so they say that, while employing every dirty trick in the Alinsky playbook to destroy and drag down their betters. Our Western notions of tolerance have been stretched too far in regards to these parasites.
Turn Yale into a forced labor camp with mandatory "Right of Return" for all graduates. However, the soap-rendering factory, shower facility, and crematorium are reserved for The Columbia Teacher's College, and Schools of Journalism and Sociology, respectively.
So sorry, but the "Political Spectrum" is more a two-dimensional (o rmore!) space. Check yer premises.
Leftist ideology is infantile.
infantile indeed
Who's talking about last night? This is tonight.
Yes, and your assertion that there is no such thing as Cultural Marxism was throroughly dismantled last night, but surely you'll forget about all that and rehash the same bullshit non-fact-based arguments yet again.
the elephent in the room is religion - how can you expect people to rebel when they have been brainwashed to believe they must submit to invisible master, that they are nobody and that their invisibel master is everythng?
This is a great book by Mike Tabibi about the subject of why Americans became possibly the biggest cowards ever anywhere:
"...
A frightening thought shot through my head. It occurred to me that over the last decades any number of our prominent political leaders (from Jimmy Carter to W himself) had boasted publicly of their born-again experiences, broadcasting to Middle America an understanding of their personal relationship with God. The thought that any politician could claim this kind of experience and not be immediately disqualified from public service seemed utterly terrifying.
Once you made a journey like this - once you've gone this far - you are beyond suggestible. It’s not merely the informational indoctrination, the constant belittling of homosexuals and atheists and Muslims and pacifists, etc., that's the issue. It’s that once you’ve gotten to this place, you’ve left behind the mental process that a person would need to form an independent opinion about such things. You make this journey precisely to experience the ecstasy of beating to the same big gristly hearth with a roomful of like-minded folks. Once you reach that place with them, you are thinking with your muscles, not your neurons. All that matters is being full of the lord and empty of demons. And since everything that is not of god is demonic, asking these people to be objective about anything else is just absurd.There is no "anything else." All alternative points of view are nonstarters. There is this "our thing," a sort of Cosa Nostra of the soul, and then there are the fires of Hell. And that is all.
..."
http://www.amazon.com/Great-Derangement-Terrifying-Politics-Religion/dp/...
the elephent in the room is religion
So it's all Ganesha's fault?
http://enjoyfestivals.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Ganesha-Sitting-on-...
religion is like the FED - lots of enforced unreality, lies, fear and FRAUD - so yes I think any of the (mutually exclusive) invisible masters.
And I think the newer the religion - the more totalitarian it is. I remember reading in the Odyssey when Odyseus went to liberate his sailors (turned into pigs by the godess Circe). Another godess instructed him to fuck the godess Circe (in order to turn his pigs into men again). That was before Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Imagine that scenario with any of the current panteon of invisible friends
I still like the picture of the elephant dude.
The Fed. Another citadel of overt godliness.
Funny how things keep getting better and better, the closer we get to complete secularization.
I can't help but think of those old gospel tracts, with an image of "self" on a throne, and everything is chaotic and out of control.
If anything, the elephant in the room is state control of morality and speech. With theists the state creates asinine, un-Biblical doctrines and tries to use peer pressure to get pastors to teach a pro-war message. With atheists, I've already seen brainwashed kids really believe we are "helping" people around the world "evolve" to our way of thinking, and that anyone who resists is "holding us back" the futurist techno-utopia.
Again, state control over morality, philosophy, science, etc. is the real enemy. Cutting the State to 10% of its size would be a step in the right direction.
Yeah, Yale is crammed full of born-again Christians-- both faculty and students.
Very interesting to watch how things keep getting better and better as society gets less and less religious.
the less lies, fear and un-reality the better for everyone (apart from priests and piliticians whose fake authority is based on fearmongering and lies)
the upsurge in reality may force us to grow some balls too
The reality is that the professors and the kids at Yale are in complete and fervent agreement with you.
I don't know anyone from Yale, but the ones I do kow from Harvard, Princton and MIT are rarely in agreement with me on these matters. And I have to say they don't seem to be that cleaver at all and generally have no balls. And they don't read any books
I studied at the Imperial College London and it'skind of similar there too (also Oxford and Cambridge). They seem to produce an army of snobby (insecure) but servile graduates
Also it seems that degrees can be bought in the US. I unintentionally exposed one of the friends who has a degree from MIT (she is a heiress of one of US's richest families). When I introduced her to anothr friend (the same age and with the same degree - one of the best American architects) it turned out he never saw her on any of the lectures for all the time they were supposed to be doing the same course at MIT together).
Which probably means she got her degree without even going to lectures thatnks to her family's donations.
She stopped telling people she was an architect than - now she is an 'artist'
Yale is crammed with born-agains? You're kidding right? Sarc tags?
No. It seems to me that the Eskimos want our best universities stuffed to the gills with affirmative action and diversity, rather than the best and brightest.
Religion and Elites: It takes two to Tango.
“The general concerns of all people - “elude” the public. The public just isn't up to dealing with them. And they have to be the domain of what he called a "specialized class" ... [Reinhold Niebuhr]'s view was that rationality belongs to the cool observer.
But because of the stupidity of the average man, he follows not reason, but faith. And this naive faith requires necessary illusion, and emotionally potent oversimplifications, which are provided by the myth-maker to keep the ordinary person on course. It's not the case, as the naive might think, that indoctrination is inconsistent with democracy. Rather, as this whole line of thinkers observes, it is the essence of democracy.
The point is that in a military state or a feudal state or what we would now call a totalitarian state, it doesn't much matter because you've got a bludgeon over their heads and you can control what they do.
But when the state loses the bludgeon, when you can't control people by force, and when the voice of the people can be heard, you have this problem—it may make people so curious and so arrogant that they don't have the humility to submit to a civil rule [Clement Walker, 1661], and therefore you have to control what people think.
And the standard way to do this is to resort to what in more honest days used to be called propaganda, manufacture of consent, creation of necessary illusion. Various ways of either marginalizing the public or reducing them to apathy in some fashion." -- Noam Chomsky.
there is a good book (kind of ) about that subject by old wise prof from yale:
http://www.amazon.com/Loss-Happiness-Market-Democracies/dp/0300091060/re...
The most successful, mass-murdering totalitarian regimes did not use religion.
In fact, when looking at history, it almost seems that religion makes rebellion against such a force inevitable for whatever reason.
What a narrow, 'black or white, no grey' mindset you have there. As closed minded as the people you describe.
You paint with large, broad brushes.
I'm at a loss to understand exactly what the greivance is? Was there a specific costume that was making this student feel unsafe or was it the concept of an uncontrolled halloween where someone might dress up as Moochelle and insult her sensitivities?
This puss will be begging to suck cock for a chance to be an underpaid intern at some finance company in a few years and she is bitching about potentially being insulted by someones costume? She has a lot about life to learn between here and there.
good point - in my experience the more they complain and try to enforce PC - the more ready and willng to suck cocks
PC? Isn't that like being solidly anti-religious as a dogma?
I am just anti - lies, anti-fear-mongering and anti religious child abuse (by which I mean brainwashing children to believe BS instead of letting them make up their own mind when hey grow up. THat's the trick Christians invented - I think I read about a Roman emperor bing pissed off with Christians , originally thought of as a bunch of harmless idiots, because of the early brain washing/child abuse they invented).
When i grew up nobdy told me that religion is bad, but nobody told me invisible masters I must fear created the earth 5000 years ago. I think religion is like drugs - unless you get used to it early - you will never get hooked to it.
For me to start believing there is an invisible master I must fear, pay to his church and confess etc is as likely as getting hooked on heroin or coke.
Growing up, I never heard of neither of them (coke, religion, heroin)
Also if the invisible masters ever show themselves - I will be happy to accept I was wrong
PS note to my downvoters - the more I get the biger the reward for me (instead of looking for a safe place, I get inspired by downvotes - they mean i hit the nerve as intended)
What an empty life you lead. Coming onto a discussion thread with no purpose other than to cast aspersions on the beliefs of others-- for which you preen and congratulate yourself. You have far more in common with those poor kids subjected to the Yale experience than you might otherwise suppose.
I regret, however, that I have no red arrows to feed your ego with, since I almost never use them-- and certainly have not done so in this particular instance.
the purpose is to highlight the link between what everyone on ZH seems to complain about - the FED, corrupt american politicians and brainwashing of sheeple etc and the original totalitarianism which is religion.
without such early brainwashing that turns people into slaves (mentally) we woul question things more and woudl be less likely to have psychopaths in charge.
It's easier for a foreigner like me to see these things, especeially someone who was free to grow up without being brainwashed into fear and submission.
Because I woudl like the US to be a better and freer cuntry I think making peple question such brainwashing woudl be good for anyone.
It's more of a case of Emperor's New Clothes than of massaging my ego which I don't really care about.
You just caused me to upvote Tarabel. Asshole!
(instead of looking for a safe place, I get inspired by downvotes - they mean i hit the nerve as intended)
Sometimes people get down votes just for being a jack ass or stupid...and yes....for hitting a nerve. Most of us here can tell the difference.
Just another know-nothing, atheist troll, agent provocateur.
"killdo", huh?
Rhymes with a sex toy, and has the brains of one too.
it's a sculpture I designed which is currently in an art collection worth more than 100m USD
one of my hobies
it's hard to know nothing when you have 4 degrees
Whomever values a sculpture in the millions needs a labotomy.
Pretty, but useless.
I agree with you but they do.
It's not the Killdo that's worth 100m - it's the whole collection
Apparently, you missed the class on spelling...
Education is no indication of intelligence!
DaddyO
I gree
neiter is spelling
sorry I speak only 3 languages - what about you?
"Was there a specific costume that was making this student feel unsafe or was it the concept of an uncontrolled halloween where someone might dress up as Moochelle and insult her sensitivities?"
A lot of folks were offended because they thought trick-or-treaters were dressed up as Michelle. But it turned out that they were dressed as Wookies.
You never responded to my last post -- I'll ask again.
If people that think like you or Chomsky ever come to power -- what do you do with people like me? I will not work unless I directly profit. If my "profit" is the betterment of society and thus myself, I'll sit at home and drink all day.
What do you and your folk do with people like me?
Nuke Silliman now.
The Deep State that runs the land of the free is much more powerful today. And far more ruthless. Occupy Wall Street was infiltrated by the FBI and broken up
Revealed: how the FBI coordinated the crackdown on OccupyIt was more sophisticated than we had imagined: new documents show that the violent crackdown on Occupy last fall – so mystifying at the time – was not just coordinated at the level of the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and local police. The crackdown, which involved, as you may recall, violent arrests, group disruption, canister missiles to the skulls of protesters, people held in handcuffs so tight they were injured, people held in bondage till they were forced to wet or soil themselves –was coordinated with the big banks themselves.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-cra...
a god book about the fashist treatment the Ocupy protesters got from police:
http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Project-History-Crisis-Movement-ebook/dp...
It has always been powerful. We are just exposed to it more because of advances in communication, rapid traveling, bigger population and peak government criminality.
You left out the snipers.
Education became everything about feelings and groupthinking. Seperated schools for boy and girls where a good thing back then.
That's also why boys are falling behind on education overall because these days because the male education system was all about strickt rules and toughness and now all those roles are gone.
These new education systems are all about creating a unisex generation.
Maybe food service workers spit in their food.
Would that be a micro-aggression or a regular aggression?
$250K to turn your kid into a brainwashed, thin-skinned pansy... What a deal!
Well,if you are going to create a generation of over educated, under qualified, massively indebted graduates, you can damn well bet they will have a chip on their shoulder and looking for someone to blame.
Instead of the word "educated", I would use "dumbed-down" and "indoctrinated"
I guarantee you this student isn't paying $50k per year. The diversity gets their .edu for free.
Divide...conquer...rinse and repeat.
These kids are lost. Fuck em. Move on to some kids that are more sensible.
that crazy bitch is an irrational PMS freak.
My country is a hot mess.
That is good that you avoided bringing her race into play. However, you may have offended people with mental issues and pre-menopausal females.
I bet the professor is made to apologize for causing her to publicly shriek, curse and throw her backpack.
Apparently it's OK for her to tell her much older professor to shut up and curse at him., for someone who is easily offended.
Precisely. She is playing the role of an ignorant and blatant hypocrite when she screams and curses at the professor. In her warped and narcissistic world, being offended only applies to her and her closest peers. Yet she can scream vulgar insults at the top of her lungs at someone (who is her technically her superior) and feel that she has committed no offense of her own. Fascinating.