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Shares Of World's Largest Miner Plunge To Seven-Year Low After Massive Toxic Mudslide Engulfs Brazilian Village

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Ok, so if you’re the world’s largest mining company, one thing you don’t want is a global deflationary supply glut brought on by depressed demand from China and a worldwide excess capacity problem. 

Another thing you don’t want is for a tailings dam to burst, sending a river of toxic mud into a nearby village in South America.

Well, BHP Billiton is now dealing with both of those issues and the market is punishing the stock, which hit a seven-year low on Monday as analysts and investors alike attempt to figure out how the company intends to clean up a spectacular (in a bad way) mess in Minas Gerais. 

Here’s what happened, in BHP’s words: 

The Samarco operations include a three tiered tailings dam complex. Within this complex, the Fundão dam failed and the downstream Santarém dam has been affected. This resulted in a significant release of mine tailings, flooding the community of Bento Rodrigues and impacting other communities downstream. The third dam in the complex, the Germano dam, is being monitored by Samarco. At this time, there is no confirmation of the causes of the tailings release.

Samarco is jointly operated with Brazilian giant Vale and BHP has been keen to note that the joint venture is “responsible for the entirety” of the Minas Gerais operations. After the company's operating license was revoked on Monday, its debt plunged, with some $2.2 billion in paper due 2022, 2023, and 2024 hitting record lows.

For those who might have missed it, the following images will tell you pretty much all you need to know about what happened:

(via WSJ)

And here's Deutsche Bank's take, which underscores the significance:

BHP and Vale's 30Mtpa Samarco iron ore mine in Southern Brazil (50/50 JV) has suffered a catastrophic tailings dam failure. The mine represents c. 10% of our BHP earnings and 3% of NPV, we now assume the mine is shut until FY19. Pellet production was recently expanded to 30Mtpa at a cost of US$3.2b. Media reports have stated that there is a significant and tragic loss of life. Based on public images of the failure we estimate that the dam contained over 300Mt or 150Mm3 of tailings and Samarco could be down for years while the clean-up costs may exceed US$1b. This accident will add further pressure to BHP's cash flow, growth and safeguarding of the progressive dividend

 

At around 0530am AEST on Nov 6, Samarco’s largest tailings facility failed causing slurry to race through the open pit and down the valley into the local village of Bento Rodrigues and into local waterways. The media is reporting that between 15 and 17 people have died and 45 others are missing. Samarco states in its FY14 sustainability report that it employs a management system referred to as “Failure Modes and Effects Analysis (FMEA) system” to control tailings dam failure risks. It could be months before Vale, BHP, State and Federal governments complete their assessment of the incident. The clean-up, community support, litigation and rebuilding of the tailings dam (if approved and deemed feasible) could mean that Samarco is shut for years. The mine employs 3,100 people and is one of the largest employers in the region. Samarco contributed US$369m to BHP earnings in FY15 and before this incident we estimated it would contribute US$308m in FY16. We have assumed the mine is shut until FY19, the workforce remains employed, and BHP’s share of the clean-up and dam rebuild costs US$500m. We have excluded any recouping of costs from insurance at this stage. 

Of course this is the sellside penguin brigade so naturally, all of that somehow translates to a "Hold":

As WSJ notes

Brazilian officials on Sunday raised the death toll to three people, two of whom were found in the path of the mud flow, and a third who died while receiving medical treatment. That number is expected to rise, as at least 28 people are now confirmed missing.

 

“BHP Billiton will continue to work with Samarco, Vale, the local communities, local authorities, regulators and insurers to assess the full impact of this tragic incident,” BHP said.

 

The shutdown will reduce BHP’s iron-ore production this fiscal year—cutting into profit when falling commodity prices already are already making it more difficult for the company to keep its promise to maintain or lift shareholder dividends. Samarco last year accounted for roughly 3% of BHP’s underlying earnings.

Right, so in other words, this is an unmitigated disaster. 

On the "bright" side, the fallout could take some excess supply offline, and could impact prices. Here's more, via Bloomberg:

  • Deactivation of production at Samarco Mineracao mine, a JV between BHP Billiton and Vale, is likely to pressure iron-ore prices, Christopher Tuck, mineral commodity specialist at U.S. Geological Survey’s National Minerals Information Center, says in interview in Rio.
    • "Any deactivation, on this scale, will have an impact on seaborne trade. The varying factor that would affect prices is the length of time this mine remains inoperable. The larger time it remains idled, the greater the likelihood it will have an impact on prices’’
    • Potential impact on price of pellets much more significant than effect on overall market
    • Short-term idling could level off prices through end of 2015; if output is halted long-term, prices could increase slightly

We suppose the takeaway here is that an already abysmal backdrop for BHP just got a lot worse, which means you may want to brace yourself if you're a shareholder and if you're a Brazilian villager, just hold your breath and wait for your compensatory check from Samarco - we're sure it's in the mail.

 

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Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:34 | 6769696 astoriajoe
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EPA has offices in Brazil too? 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:42 | 6769730 ultraticum
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  ^    Whoever downvoted that insightful first-comment . . . is either a troll, or didn't hear about the EPA's vengeance wreaked on Silverton, Colorado, or both.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:53 | 6769783 negative rates
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Probably sent some of our boys down there to help them out, and they did.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:59 | 6769801 NoDebt
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Bazilian Mudslide.  There's no way that term couldn't already be in use for some weird sexual fetish of some kind.  Like a Dirty Sanchez but more extreme.

 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:41 | 6769962 Handful of Dust
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Is this " Liftoff? "

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:32 | 6770161 COSMOS
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Guess what minority group owns those mining companies.  One of the families has a red shield.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:28 | 6770367 HungryPorkChop
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We EPA'd some folks. 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:03 | 6770480 LowerSlowerDela...
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I came here for hot Brazilian girls but all I got was mud.  Very disappointed.  Clicking on...

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:24 | 6770589 old naughty
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i googled "German Red Shield", oops...

nothing minor about it.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:45 | 6771126 mkkby
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Is this lastest toxic mess near the sewage lake that the olympics will be swimming in?  Shit lake meet acid river. 

Humans will eventually extinguish themselves.  I hope the next smart monkey up the food chain isn't suicidal.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 03:43 | 6771281 ebear
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Monkeys are finished too. My money's on the bears.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 04:01 | 6771295 Four chan
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arsenic is used to leach gold from ore ans that heavy metal is what is poisoning the shit out of everything that goo touches.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:07 | 6771436 Curiously_Crazy
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It's not toxic. That's all Hyperbole.

Iron ore tailings damns don't have any of the toxic trash (lead, arsnic etc) that are found in other mining operations.

It's a shitload of damange and a shitload of impact to a lot of people without needing to spin the story to make it 'even extra morer scary'.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:38 | 6771453 StychoKiller
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Well, we'll send you a spoon & fork...all you can eat!

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:03 | 6771624 GMadScientist
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I'm pretty sure it's the dolphins' turn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIIlm24-lk

 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:11 | 6770966 acetinker
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Bauer.  The bank's logo was a red shield, but the family name was Bauer.

Not exactly Nazarene, is it?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 04:19 | 6771312 Four chan
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heres what they are up to in europe

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc&feature=youtu.be

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:49 | 6771584 Slomotrainwreck
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Jeezus freaking christ.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 22:51 | 6775592 acetinker
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I'd heard there was a problem, Four chan- but I had no idea.  Those aren't refugees, they're invaders.

I've always considered myself a pacifist on the order of:

Make no mistake/

Let there be no doubt/

Paint me in a corner/

I'll fight my way out/

The moral of the story, Brother/

This is it;/

I'll be all over you/

Like stink on shit/

But, that vid is causing me to re-jigger my entire worldview.

Thanks!  I think...

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:02 | 6770941 Escrava Isaura
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COSMOS,

 "Jews are a famously accomplished group," who, because they were "forced to give up farming in the Middle Ages... have been living off their wits ever since".

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brooks_%28journalist%29#Political_views

 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:42 | 6771568 Slomotrainwreck
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Speaking of financial costs, I didn't see an estimate for legal fees and law suits. Prolly not a big deal.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:45 | 6769977 smacker
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They need to use a Bazilian buttplug.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:10 | 6770963 EINSILVERGUY
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What is with your constant posting of porn links?  

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 04:28 | 6771322 smacker
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No, I don't mean that. My comment was intended as a small funny, not an invitation for you to post porn videos. Please get a grip (!)

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:19 | 6770107 83_vf_1100_c
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  I was thinking some feminine mixed drink. You jnow, with an umbrella.

  So why is the stock dumping? Looks like only Brazillian peons were hurt.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:28 | 6770134 nmewn
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All we need now is Escarva singing the praises of Brazil and "the purity of the planned socialist state", yapping about Chomsky and Nicaraguan bus drivers & hairdressers or some other damned thing.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:58 | 6770922 Escrava Isaura
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Chomsky has nothing to do with this mud.

But, he did marry a Brazilian.

Maybe she does.

 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:10 | 6771633 GMadScientist
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You could point out that one of Noam's main points is capitalism's rather frequent and messy "externalities", one of which just washed downstream.

BHP has already done their part and privatized the profits for Brazil's resources, guess which socialists get to soclaize the losses?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:38 | 6770181 lasvegaspersona
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nope

speciality bar drink in Los Gatos...

...but try the Dirk Diggler first...

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 04:50 | 6771332 monkeyboy
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2 Mining Co's 1 Mudslide

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:55 | 6769791 willwork4food
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It was just Soros that wanted a better price point again.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:27 | 6770136 Rusty Shorts
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Reminds me of the movie "Emerald Forest". ..fantastic movie btw.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DFrB94PD_I

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:03 | 6770743 jeff montanye
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the invisible people.

memorable bj too.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:35 | 6770171 lasvegaspersona
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prolly a disabled, sexulally confused, disadvantaged, minority, progressive troll at that....and one that abhors firearms of all sorts...cuz they kill things...

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:44 | 6770419 darteaus
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MOM!!!!  Stop following my posts!!!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:41 | 6770190 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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Or 3 EPA officials read ZH.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:42 | 6769732 Dick Buttkiss
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You mean the Enabling Pollution Agency?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:52 | 6769782 johngaltfla
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When did Berkshire buy up BHP? Hell, their railroads are killing the Midwestern US environment, I just figured after seeing this story they bought up most of BHP also.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:54 | 6769786 NoDebt
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The EPA is the agency you buy off so you can pollute with impunity while your competitors can not.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:10 | 6769858 Dick Buttkiss
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While your competitors do the same. Thus is the EPA the Endlessly Profiteering Agency.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:30 | 6769884 Dick Buttkiss
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Oops, I double posted. Must've thought for a moment there that I was Old Yellen goosing the money supply.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:58 | 6770018 WhackoWarner
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The EPA is so 1990's.  TPP will do the trick.  No country will be able to complain about a little toxic mudslide. Nor set high standards OR THEY WILL BE SUED IN A RIGGED TRIBUNAL.  In the end the villagers will die.  The lands will die.  But yeah I feel great pity for the shareholders and their dividends.

Think now, if really good secret trade deals has already been fast-tracked to include all the hold-outs there would be no problem.  BHP could sue the government for loss of profits if forced to clean up or have higher regs and standards.

 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:08 | 6770059 WhackoWarner
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AND the glory of these trade deals is that corporations will take over any democratic, national determination of land use, mining standards. WHEW. Am I glad of that.

Imagine that TPP could allow pipeline corps to sue the gov. (taxpayers) for loss of profits it projects are denied or have to live up to some, God knows rediculous concerns regarding safety and protection.  Midget brain Buffet could sue for derailment cleanups and loss of profits if safety regs cannot be bought by him. Government could be, (if anyone was not on the payroll) be sued for safety regs.

Cause loss of profit is now the new facist king of the world law.  And the lawyers are gearing up to this new industry that will bleed governments for not only money but the ability to determine/legislate any standards.

 

Here you go EU. Monsanto is coming to poison your children and SUE you if denied.  GMO is your friend. Forget the honey bee and ignore carcinogens.  Monsanto et al. need to pay a dividend.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:06 | 6770293 Anonymous User
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Either way the sheeple will suffer. Or they'll poison their stupid children, or they'll have the gubmint cut the welfare in order to compensate Monsanto. 

If you haven't got some money saved by now (to go look for a better place to live), you're screwed... and you deserve it coz you're lazy and stupid. And you vote with your ass (3 times you had the chance to vote Ron Paul)

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:12 | 6770076 Agstacker
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Bravo, sir :)

 

Interesting read, the EPA spill in Colorado was predicted in a letter to the editor claiming the EPA did it to secure a superfund site.  He was right.  

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/08/letter-to-editor-predicted-color...

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 12:31 | 6772536 Trogdor
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Interesting read, the EPA spill in Colorado was predicted in a letter to the editor claiming the EPA did it to secure a superfund site. He was right.

In Gubmint terms, that's called a "Fundraiser" ...

The way to prevent this from happening again: Take all the executives of BHP and their families and put them on 24/7/365 cleanup duty until everyone in that village (and the environment) is restored to their "per-catastrophe" condition. Same thing should have happened with the BP poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico. If there was justice in this world, there would be black-ops teams that would snatch these fuckers and make them clean up their mess ... or drag them into the street and set them on fire ... I'm good either way.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:50 | 6770908 sgorem
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*"On the "bright" side, the fallout could take some excess supply offline, and could impact prices. Here's more, via Bloomberg:"* people are dead and missing, the regions economy is buried in iron shit, the msm is ranting about fucking dividends and earnings, no accountability, cash is on it's way to the regions politicians, so, as usual, what the fuck is wrong with this picture?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 06:06 | 6771384 Big_Hitman
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My last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My sisters friend has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do... www.wallstreet34.com

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:24 | 6771442 Curiously_Crazy
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You must be a day trader; In currencies.

I'll await your 100-1 leveraged arse being raped on the way down with intense anticipation.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:35 | 6769700 Budnacho
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Because remember kids....dead civilians are good for the bottom line business-wise!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:27 | 6770366 Bárðarbunga
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But it looks as though John Kerry survived to fight another day. A couple of pictures show him pulling his way through.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:11 | 6771648 GMadScientist
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publicized dead civilians are good for the bottom line business-wise!

fixt

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:37 | 6769710 falak pema
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Glencore's alter ego, bigger brother...

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:39 | 6769719 WillyGroper
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 newest technology in water purification.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:45 | 6770677 buzzkillb
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Someone tried to explain to me its possible to live on dirt. https://youtu.be/s3337cj4sJQ

At least mud can keep the village hydrated?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:42 | 6769733 buzzsaw99
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yep. mining is glamorous alrighty.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:13 | 6769870 cougar_w
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Enabling throw-away consumerism for 50 years.

We all have this blood (and more) on our hands. The day of our reckoning is near. 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:58 | 6771816 Argenta
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If you can't grow it, you have to mine it.  That's the ugly downside of many modern-day conveniences.

-Argenta

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:13 | 6771653 GMadScientist
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Somehow, I don't think this will inspire a movie with Antonio Banderas playing the guy who's wife met his girlfriend at the accident site.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:46 | 6769750 Argenta
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Our company spends significant capital each year doing tailings dam inspections to ensure things like this don't happen.  You can't control everything, granted, but accidents like this at a major mining operation should have a near probability of zero.  Someone(s) should lose their collective jobs and asses over this.

-Argenta

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:56 | 6769795 negative rates
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By that time it will have been long since forgotten.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:40 | 6771121 mkkby
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There was a mining company that wanted to build the worlds largest toxic waste lake in the middle of the last remaining wild salmon habitat in Alaska. I remember the smooth talking (read slimy) CEO flying out to tiny villages and assuring them that leaks in these mud dams NEVER HAPPEN.

Except they happen ALL THE FUCKING TIME.  It's a god damned dirt pile holding back the floods.  EPA shut em down and I was grateful for that.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:57 | 6769802 willwork4food
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Terrible waste of life. Prayers for the families.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:57 | 6769805 Herd Redirectio...
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Unless its sabotage.  But most likely just BHP being cheap, like you said!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:29 | 6769907 cougar_w
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I'm left wondering if maybe it just got full recently and they wanted to empty it so they could start over filling it.

No I'm not joking. This could be another kind of VW "yeah we cheated so what" thing on steroids. Consider, after decades of profitable operations they might have to weigh the price of locating wastes into another impoundment at a known cost X, and compared that to the cost of dealing with a burst damn at maybe X/100, and went with the cheaper solution.

Aren't I a fucker for even thinking it? Aren't I just the worst kind of low-brow, bottom-line focused corrupt sack of soulless shit ever dipped from an open sewer?

Doesn't that kind of thinking just turn your stomach? Yeah I'm that putrid.

I am every global corporation on Earth. And I own you, own your world, own your life and own every dream you ever dared to dream. I am going to murder all of you, one of these days. As soon as there is even one thin dime to be made from the act, I will do it. Even if that thin dime is just an artifact of my twisted P&L model -- some rounding error or a bad patch of ObjectiveC -- it won't matter, I'll do it.

Nobody will blink. No fucking anyone will blink. I'll investigate it myself, hand out some Benjamins to the local swine to ease their pain, and then we'll all sing a little song called "Act of God" while I post $0.10 profit to the books and the balance of humanity suffocates in the landslide that made me 10 cents richer.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:44 | 6769973 Handful of Dust
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"This calls for an 'investigation'" ... which will lead nowhere.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:59 | 6770932 HungryPorkChop
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And of course, we already know the CEO who was squeezin' the little blue collar workers for every dime and drop of blood possible, will state he had no idea and walk clean with no jail time, charges or fault.  If we could all make guesses mine would be this scum needed their $10 Million Dollar pay check in 2015 and had their people cut every corner possible to deliver that bonus. This is the result of a CEO cutting corners and laying off everyone in order to hit gross margin numbers and get that big azz psychopath bonus they so rightfullly deserve. 

Anyway, just a guess now everyone go back to their regularly scheduled program.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:58 | 6770029 ZerOhead
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A corporation is designed to be a completely sociopathic entity. You can rest assured that the engineering costs of various tailings pond constructions were carefully examined in the manner you suggest before the inevitable final decision to go with the "El Cheapo" was made.

Remember that Tony "I'd rather be sailing" Haywood decided that fast and cheap single straws were the answer for the Gulf of Mexco and thus Macondo.

 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:54 | 6771478 herkomilchen
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Companies aren't inherently sociopathic.  They are made that way by the unnatural environment they operate in and associated perverse incentives.  They are given government privilege to throw around, exclusivity via licenses and franchises, and their officers immunity from prosecution and no personal liability for their actions.

Strip all that away and the engineering cost optimization you mistakenly malign would continue only focused on avoiding the the true costs of an accident like this which in a free market would be even more catastrophic for the company and its owners and managers personally as for the village and its residents personally.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:09 | 6770306 nmewn
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Actually there was an article last night about some marketing genius...errr, ummm..."economist"...that invented the acronym BRIC that was being praised to hell on gone by Goldman...as they SHUT DOWN the fund.

I guess it was time to "pull the plug"?

Timing is everything ;-)

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:13 | 6770083 arbwhore
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You would think that but reality is more likely bonuses all 'round for the C suite and fire a few locals.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:56 | 6770919 thestarl
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BHP has some form here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ok_Tedi_environmental_disaster

Anyone surprised.

 

 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:14 | 6771658 GMadScientist
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I'm betting there's a civ engineer who can step forward and say he recommended they not build a 3-tiered dam and got shot down.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:51 | 6769768 Cacete de Ouro
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There's a lot that Brazil needs to clean up. Corruption, roads, rivers, favelas, Olympics 2016 lakes in Rio, you name it, Brazil needs for clean it up...

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:41 | 6769963 smacker
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Only in Brazil is the guy "Cunha" who will decide whether to proceed with impeachment proceedings against Dilma Rousseff. He was himself found to have Swiss bank accounts stuffed with millions of USD.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:58 | 6770727 HardlyZero
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So, when does the UN apply for Brazil as a new EPA SuperFund site ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wh2b1eZFUM

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:51 | 6769770 Bill of Rights
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Ya, that is a lot of mud...

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:53 | 6769784 Temporalist
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There are so many black swans...we're going to need more guns.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:54 | 6769788 Panic Mode
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It is turning into Argentina.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:38 | 6769957 darteaus
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Everywhere is turning into Argentina.  The fight is to see who will be last.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:15 | 6771662 GMadScientist
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Learn the latest dance craze: the bond default.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:56 | 6769796 RMolineaux
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This failure and similar others, in my opinion, are the result of inadequate design for tropical locations.  Retention ponds often hold large amounts of toxic chemicals.  When subjected to heavy rain bursts they release these chemicals into local streams and they then proceed many miles further into larger rivers, killing wildlife and polluting water supplies.   One logical solution is to build roofs over these ponds and divert the rainwater away.  This would, of course, impose increased costs on the operation, and depend for enforcement on often-weak supervisory agencies.  

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:27 | 6770588 Skiprrrdog
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There is also no telling what kind of people they hire/contract , whatever to design/build/manage these things. Coeur Mining, at their Kensington operation in Juneau hires/uses some of the most flat out stupid fucking people on the planet. A high school diploma in this crowd...well lets just say he/she would be the smartest person in the camp. I am just waiting to read about an environmental disaster at that mine...

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:04 | 6771061 IndyPat
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I think you miss the point.

Allow me to help.

They don't give one wet fuck what happens with the retention pond.

That clear it up?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:16 | 6771666 GMadScientist
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The failure and many others are the result of using the absolutely cheapest quickest methods to handle this slag instead of properly remediating this nasty shit in a responsible manner.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:58 | 6769809 smacker
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For Brazilians, this is a distraction away from the Petrobrás "lava jato" scandal.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:40 | 6771016 Escrava Isaura
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And this corruption comes ‘mainly’ from Middle Eastern Brazilians. There goes the Jews connection.

 

MEFOBILLS is correct, money needs to be local. Trade needs to be barter. Otherwise the money laundering/FX exchange mechanism/manipulation makes these matters too difficult to prosecute.

 

Anyway, as these unsustainable financial models all collapse (2020?)  and US religious zealous/Armageddon fanatics, alongside a dying elite starts nuking everything for irrational reasons, these issues in Brazil will become minor.

 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 03:14 | 6771265 smacker
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"And this corruption comes ‘mainly’ from Middle Eastern Brazilians. There goes the Jews connection."

Dilma Rousseff and her predecessor Lula are not Middle Eastern jews as far as I know. But they are both implicated in the Petrobrás lava jato scandal. That said, I often wonder what sort of stranglehold jews do have on Brazil.

 

"Anyway, as these unsustainable financial models all collapse (2020?)  and US religious zealous/Armageddon fanatics, alongside a dying elite starts nuking everything for irrational reasons, these issues in Brazil will become minor."

I'm thinking that if the financial system collapse and WWIII don't start until ~2020, we'll all be very lucky. Current events certainly portend it happening earlier.

 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:13 | 6769868 Fukushima Fricassee
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Cancel the fucking olmypics and impeach that queer fuck Obama.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:44 | 6769975 bamawatson
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is that george carlin speaking? recall his rant about faggots n queers; he said when he was a teen, faggots were the guys who would not go downtown on friday nights to beat up the queers

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:19 | 6769886 xavi1951
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Looks like Tiquana on a good day......just saying

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:32 | 6769929 FranSix
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Good luck getting the Pebble project up and running after this one. Another tailings dam failure was the Mount Polley tailings dam, but no deathses.

Another disaster in Quebec, but a rail disaster, killed 47 people in Lac Megantic recently, when an unoccupied oil train derailed in the centre of town, blowing up a pub full of people.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:33 | 6769933 darteaus
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Globull Warming!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:36 | 6770174 Phil Free
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...bull.. I like that. Globull. Nuff' said.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:38 | 6769958 bluez
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Mine tailings is (most probably know this) not just mud. It is (probably in all cases) super-toxic. Even (very) radioactive (uranium, thorium, etc.). I think those villages are gone for good.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:16 | 6770324 Anopheles
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NO.  These talings are from an iron ore mine.  NO toxic chemicals, or chemicals of any kind are used in concentrating iron ore.  All that's done is the iron ore is ground up and the iron and waste rock is separated using water.  

The tailings are simply the rock that already existed on the surface, minus the iron. 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:30 | 6770841 MayIMommaDogFac...
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So you'd be willing to drink a glass full of this stuff in front of us then?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:10 | 6771070 IndyPat
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And of course you'd love it if we shit this stuff all over your yard, as well?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:56 | 6771139 Charming Anarchist
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Hey!  Those villagers should be happy to live in a modern industrial world!  Their lives are better off working machines than working their own land.  That is what I learned in economics class. 

Modern health-care and vaccinations to boot! 

 

Yay!  Free trade! Free trade!  The glories of comparative advantage!  Hallelujah!  Free trade in action!! 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:20 | 6771672 GMadScientist
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"They say we no can have dishwasher on layaway because we die cancer and no pay." 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 10:17 | 6771901 Anopheles
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There's a big difference between being MESSY and being TOXIC.   I never said it wasn't messy, it is.  

I've been stuck up to my knees in an old iron ore tailings dump, and know exactly what it's like. 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:52 | 6769991 homiegot
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You could eat that mud. The government said so.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:31 | 6770158 813kml
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Ship it to Haiti to make super-special mud cakes.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:18 | 6770552 A Nanny Moose
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You didn't eat that.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:56 | 6771144 Charming Anarchist
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You did not shit that.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:55 | 6770007 nathan1234
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Rothschild controlled BHP Billiton !

Hue & Cry Will die soon in the paid media.

 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 19:58 | 6770028 Smegley Wanxalot
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Brazilian article without pics of hot chicks?  

This place is sliding downhill!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:00 | 6770033 Monetas
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Daminos, anyone ?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:10 | 6770066 22winmag
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It's non-toxic.

 

-The EPA

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:20 | 6770103 WTFUD
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Vale are renowned for minimum safety standards. BHP & their Banking Cartel bankrollers will take a nice hit and then move onto the next corrupt third world dictators, leaving a trail of toxic sludge behind them.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:22 | 6770121 Crocodile
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Worship the earth at the expense of the people...that is why 1 billion will go toward "clean-up" and less than nothing to the people.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:26 | 6770139 Black Warrior W...
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"We mine-tailed some folks..."

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:30 | 6770155 lasvegaspersona
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because the engineering of tailing dams is so new...we have so much to learn about water pressure and mud wall strenght and rain...this was in gods hands...

 

btw I now spend about 10% of the time at ZH declining the 'Get ZeroHedge in your email" dialog box. It comes up when I open the page, when I click on anything, when I click to comment....fucker even comes up if I cough.  Seriouly this is the most pest laden site I've ever regularly visited. Must be tough to make a buck on the webz.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:54 | 6770242 Albertarocks
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You are right, ZH has gotten so bogged down with scripts, images, plug-ins, XHR (whatever that is), css (whatever that is), and cookies that my powerful computer can barely open an article on this site.  I have seen pages with over 1,000 of these CPU hogging monstrosities.

Good news though, if you use Firefox you can get an add-on that will block whatever pieces of this garbage that you want.  I have very little trouble loading ZH now and I 'never' get those annoying pop-ups that are driving you nuts.  Here its where you get it if you want to give it a whirl:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/umatrix/

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:00 | 6770467 ToSoft4Truth
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Ghostery works great, yo!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:36 | 6770175 Montani Semper ...
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Still fresh in the memories of many WV residents is the Buffalo Creek disaster in Febuary, 1972. Very similar to this Brazil dam failure in that it was a three tiered construct that held back mine tailings or "slurry" from the mines.

 A brief excerpt from an article that was written a few years later:

 

At 7:45 AM, as men worked on the dam, water began to rush down the valley. Only a few residents had been warned at this point. Dozens of lives could have been saved if the people of Buffalo Hollow had been properly warned of the possibility of danger. Pittston Coal neglected to warn The Mining Bureau, the National Guard, the State Police, and even the Logan County Sheriff’s office. At 7:59, the dam completely collapsed. Massive explosion were set off as the rushing water met with the smoldering yellow-suffer coal waste deposits. At 8:01, a huge torrent of rushing water swept through Buffalo Creek and carried all of the burning coal-waste with it. A canyon 45ft. deep in places was the result as more than 120 million gallons of water and 35 million cubic feet of waste materials thrashed down the valley in a wall sometimes 35-45 feet high. By 11:00AM, it was all over (Gerald Stern, 1976).

The disaster killed 123 people, injured 1,000, and left 4000 homeless. Pittston Coal claimed it was "an act of god".

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:23 | 6771090 IndyPat
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That's right.

And if you have a problem with it, I'm sure Pittston will gladly send a few train cars full of Pinkerton cunts through the holler to register complaints.
And machine gun those making them.

Almost Heaven, by God. It will be a giant crater when they are done with her.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:41 | 6770192 WTFUD
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Z/H is God's Work lasvegaspersona . . . . and i get a feeling deep down in my water that you too know it.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:48 | 6770217 Able Ape
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This disaster would surely NEVER happen in places like Aspen; however, in Peonville.....

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:50 | 6770233 Nana
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DB says Hold? WTF?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 20:57 | 6770264 El Hosel
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Sorry Nana,

DB = Douchebags

HOLD = SELL

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:02 | 6770285 Dragon HAwk
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Is it too early to say.. we Mudded some folks?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:07 | 6770298 Clowns on Acid
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Isn't solar power an alternative iron ore ?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 10:21 | 6770299 Anopheles
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Good time to think about buying BHP. They are a forward thinking company and with many things they do, they look forward 50 to 100 years.

Mining isn't like manufacturing, mine planning works over decades to half a century or even a century into the future.  In comparison manufacturing has a timescale of only years.   Compare that with, so called "analysts" only look ahead to the next quarter, if that far ahead. 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:12 | 6770317 reTARD
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Sounds quite a bit like Atlas Shrugged. Just saying. ;-)

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:19 | 6770340 mijev
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I had the misfortune of studying economics for a couple of semesters in grad school. One of the case studies was a noo joysey smelting operation that deliberately allowed run-off into the river the factory was built bext to. The economists concluded that it was a cheaper and therefore better option to pay the anticipated fines than to spend the money to prevent the pollution in the first place. Not a single mention of the impact on humans, flora or fauna.

The first line of the main text book started with "Economics is a science." Right... Funnily enough the author's name was Dick somthing.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:23 | 6770353 Secret Weapon
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Looks like a lot of "shovel ready" jobs to me.  Hope Obama doesn't hear about thise economy builder. 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:17 | 6770549 Skiprrrdog
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OOOOH, dont be a *grumpy cat*! Has anyone seen Reggie? It time for his 1PM helmet polishing job.

B_YoMama

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:47 | 6770422 wisebastard
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the EPA was there and did this on purpose............but the dumbass people are to busying being sheep to realize the wolf is hungry

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:52 | 6770434 ToSoft4Truth
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I haven’t read it yet but hope the article matches the headline! LOL 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:59 | 6770462 SmittyinLA
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Bullish for BHP, broke leftist governments with "on the take whore politicians" are notoriously bad litigators.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 21:59 | 6770463 ToSoft4Truth
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This mine accident would have been ‘covered up’ if the Internet didn’t exist. 

I don’t have… the means but, if you do….

Fly to Australia and pick-up all that mining equipment.  Get it to the mud slide.   

What An Industrial Depression Looks Like: Photos From An Australian Heavy-Machinery Auction

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-09/what-industrial-depression-look...

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:33 | 6770623 Spungo
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They should be thanking the mining company for breaking everything and causing "economic activity" to happen.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:35 | 6770632 tarabel
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Imagine that. They build a mine tailings dump in the only part of Brazil that isn't suffering a drought.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:05 | 6770750 WOD
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Whoopsies! Sorry about your homes and donkey, and the cat, and the dirt on the floor.. umm... so.. do you live around here much?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:38 | 6770872 Keloid
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hmmm. Local restaurants never seem to burn whem times ae good.

Do the math...be sure to include insurance and reduction in global over capacity to your calculations.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:27 | 6770997 hedgiex
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Operating licence is revoked ? What a Joke, so who is filling the gap ? Call it an exit that you muscle so that you can wash your hands. Just some necessary PR (cosmetics) cheaper than to clean up. There is a price to everything and that price however insignificant will not be paid when it comes to People and Habitats who are mere inputs to economic growth models. 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:30 | 6771004 Gregory Poonsores
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"so if you’re the world’s largest mining company, one thing you don’t want is a global deflationary supply glut"

 

Look how BHP ramped their production. They played a massive part in causing the supply glut.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:49 | 6771466 Dugald
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Who and how many will go to prison????????

Answer.....Whitewash....

 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:31 | 6771549 AngrySparky
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Mmmmm... toxic sludge, just like what landfills will look like in the year 2030 from all of the dead battery packs from Hybrid and battery powered cars. I can't wait to see all the green washed admit defeat.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:31 | 6771551 AngrySparky
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Mmmmm... toxic sludge, just like what landfills will look like in the year 2030 from all of the dead battery packs from Hybrid and battery powered cars. I can't wait to see all the green washed admit defeat.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:57 | 6771599 Equalizer
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You seem to be making a big deal about all this, this kind of stuff happens all the time, it's not like BHP hasn't had a giant disaster before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ok_Tedi_Mine

Unless you live downstream from a BHP operated mine site you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:21 | 6771677 GMadScientist
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FUCKING ISIS!!! :)

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