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Sickening Images Of China Plagued By "Extremely Hazardous" Record Smog As Winter Heating Season Arrives

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"Today’s haze is pretty severe and choking - when I walked out the door I thought someone’s house was on fire," exclaimed one resident as AFP reports a huge swathe of China is engulfed by acrid smog Monday after levels of dangerous particulates reached around 56 times World Health Organization maximums, in what environmental campaigners said were the highest figures ever recorded in the country.

 

Spot the 'Winter' difference...

 

As The Guardian details,

Residents of north-eastern China donned gas masks and locked themselves indoors on Sunday after their homes were enveloped by some of the worst levels of smog on record.

 

Levels of PM2.5, a tiny airborne particulate linked to cancer and heart disease, soared in Liaoning province as northern China began burning coal to heat homes at the start of the winter.

 

 

“The air stings and makes my eyes and throat feel sore when I’m outdoors,” one woman, who had ventured out to buy a face mask, was quoted as saying. “As for what exactly we should do, I don’t know,” she added.

 

 

The Associated Press said Sunday’s smog represented one of the worst episodes of air pollution recorded in China since authorities began releasing air quality data in 2013.

 

 

There was indignation on social media as China confronted its latest “airpocalypse”.

 

 

“The government knows how severe the smog problem is, so why haven’t they tackled it?” one critic wrote on Weibo, China’s Twitter.

 

 

“What’s the point of having an environmental protection department? The precondition for developing the economy is not damaging the environment. Our leaders are all well educated. Can’t they understand this simple truth?”

 

 

Others reacted with resignation. “Other than reporting it, what can the government do?”

 

 

Shenyang, a major industrial centre since the days of Mao Zedong, has been attempting to clean up its act in recent years by relocating factories and starting to use natural gas instead of coal to heat homes.

 

 

But on Monday doctors in Shenyang were dealing with the consequences of the latest bout of toxic pollution to hit their city.

 

Yang Shenjia, who works at the Liaoning Jinqiu Hospital, said there had been a sudden influx of patients suffering from breathing complaints over the past two days. “The respiratory department’s inpatient wards are full,” the doctor told Xinhua.

 

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Finally, and perhaps the most ironic of all, is the juxtaposition of the images above of a coal-smoke-plagued China with 'official' data that coal usage is collapsing amid China's "successful" reforms of the Coal industry in line with the newly signed Climate Change agreements with President Obama...

Coal consumption is poised for its biggest decline in history, driven by China’s battle against pollution, economic reforms and its efforts to promote renewable energy.

 

Global use of the most polluting fuel fell 2.3 percent to 4.6 percent in the first nine months of 2015 from the same period last year, according to a report released Monday by the environmental group Greenpeace. That’s a decline of as much as 180 million tons of standard coal, 40 million tons more than Japan used in the same period.

 

The report confirms that worldwide efforts to fight global warming are having a significant impact on the coal industry, the biggest source of carbon emissions.

Call us old-fashioned but color us skeptical that any of that is true given the record levels of coal pollution that is choking reality out of Chinese lives.

 

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Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:47 | 6770684 buzzsaw99
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yeah they cut the coal consumption because now they are burning garbage.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:48 | 6770688 J S Bach
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The commies in our country gave us the EPA.  How come it hasn't arisen in Red China?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:52 | 6770700 buzzsaw99
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the epa didn't cut pollution in the usa, outsourcing did.

the scarier question is if they are willing to do that to their own country what are they capable of doing to other countries?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:04 | 6770746 joego1
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Yes you are right on, now we focus on manufacturing digital fiat, much cleaner.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:20 | 6770808 Boris Alatovkrap
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This is not smog you are see, but is steam off of dumpling. Toxic dumpling.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:42 | 6770948 Manthong
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That ain’t nothing compared to what’s going on in Indonesia right now that is producing more pollution daily than entire US economy.

http://bit.ly/1WBsiew

Children are being prepared for evacuation in warships; already some have choked to death. Species are going up in smoke at an untold rate. It is almost certainly the greatest environmental disaster of the 21st century — so far.

But they are not talking much about this and China now because they want us all to lose our SUV’s, our home AC and install magnifying glasses in our roof tops to heat our houses.

You see, to them it’s not really about the environment, it’s about total population control.

 

edit: Hey I got at least one down vote from a collectivist troll!

Enjoy your totalitarian future.. but I will fight it tooth and nail.

 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:53 | 6771041 joego1
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7,800 sq miles burned in U.S. last year

http://wildland-fires.findthedata.com/

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 02:18 | 6771173 Manthong
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Yeah, but it's the very ground that's burning over there because of all of the thousands of years of peat moss that have been drained by all of the big factory farming operations.

US forest fires burn out relatively quickly..

I don't believe this one will be out any time soon.

And on that island all of the indigenous exotic species have nowhere to escape to.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 04:57 | 6771336 AE911Truth
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Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:37 | 6771452 negative rates
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If you don't like the weather, just wait, it will change.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:51 | 6771469 Rip van Wrinkle
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Shouldn't that be 'If you don't like your weather, you can keep your weather'.

 

Old US saying.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 10:14 | 6771889 gmrpeabody
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"This is not smog you are see, but is steam off of dumpling"

Crassic.....

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:55 | 6771472 VinceFostersGhost
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Their chemtrails are cheaper than ours......it's totally free.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:14 | 6771515 TemporarySecurity
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Time to calm down they actually live longer on average than Americans do, by a significant amount.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 12:30 | 6772530 Boris Alatovkrap
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Is because of extra pulmonary exercise - lung muscle of Beijing resident is much stronger.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:25 | 6770824 Laowei Gweilo
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to be fair, liaoning is not representative of other NE provinces (which are albeit some of the slowest economies in China) or much of the south-eastern provinces

it's general smelting and heavy machinery density is very high, maybe the highest, in china... it's top 2 or 3 in a lot of areas, and it achieves that in a much denser area than the other provinces (who spread it out over more land, with more smaller less-smog-producing factories for tech, clothes, etc in between)...

 

i mean, it's not quite coal land like shanxi but it's a pretty gross province even by chinese standards

 

recent holiday a few weeks back (insane highway congestion out of beijing and a lot of that smog ended up north in liaoning) and then maybe factories ramping up for singles day probably made it worse too

 

just saying that 5-6 weeks ago or 5-6 weeks from now, quite a lot of places don't really look that bad (i mean, still sucks but it's not like post-apocalyse like the pics above lol)

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:35 | 6770856 38BWD22
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NE China does make a lot of bearings, including big heavy ones for railroads and industry.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 02:10 | 6771148 LetThemEatRand
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Dean Martin looked at the pictures in this story and couldn't figure out if he was drunk or hungover, but he's glad they still allow indoor smoking.*

*I'm old and was just watching old Dean Martin roasts.  Want politically incorrect?   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7Nr_n_55yQ

 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 04:02 | 6771297 Laowei Gweilo
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some cities actually ban that now

smoking is pretty crazy with chinese, soooo many 20-35 yr olds smoke.... so much so that if you don't smoke it can be pretty effing akward and socially excluding if you don't smoke

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:01 | 6771485 Oldwood
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Maybe all of this explains the softening of the "one child" policy? They need a higher "replacement rate" given the possibility of a higher than anticipated loss rate.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 10:12 | 6771882 toxic8
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"Others reacted with resignation. “Other than reporting it, what can the government do?”

 

Can't tell if trolling ...

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:07 | 6771639 DadzMad
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Made my day, LTER.  Thank you!

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 10:07 | 6771866 strangewalk
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I lived in China for 10 years--Kunming, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzhen, and for a short time Wuhan. With the exception of Kunming those pics could have been taken from about anywhere in China. The soil, food, water and air pollution is horrendous--a national disgrace

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 15:24 | 6773627 PTR
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The only difference between theirs and ours (US) is that we can see more than 40 feet.  

We're still getting killed slowly.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:57 | 6771601 de3de8
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And let's make sure we crucify VW

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:54 | 6771477 lakecity55
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Same difference, the EPA ran off the factories.

Just like last year they ean of th elast Lead Smelter, so it would be harder to buy bulletz.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:59 | 6771483 Escrava Isaura
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buzzsaw99,

You’re totally wrong on the EPA.

http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/jwalke/we_focused_on_clean_air.html

 

But, 100% correct on offshoring manufacturing.

“America’s elites know that capitalism is totally unworkable. We try to impose it in the 3rd world so we can destroy them”Noam Chomsky

 

 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:02 | 6771489 VinceFostersGhost
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Are you stalking Noam Chomsky?

 

Stop doing that!

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:04 | 6771496 Oldwood
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Misery loves company and collectivists love it more than most.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:12 | 6771512 VinceFostersGhost
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Life is only fair when your life sucks as much as mine.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:02 | 6771614 snodgrass
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Mao and the communist party murdered 85 million of their own. How many non-Chinese do you think they'd be willing to kill?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:39 | 6771565 theallseeinggod
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"The commies in our country gave us the EPA.  How come it hasn't arisen in Red China?"

Communism isn't about the environment, it's about collectivism. Commies in the west are environmentalists, because they see it as a way to collectivise the society. China is already communist, therefore no need for environmentalism.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 06:08 | 6771387 Big_Hitman
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My last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My sisters friend has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do... www.wallstreet34.com

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:47 | 6770686 greenskeeper carl
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Don't worry America, once OUR socialists are installed, they will take really good care of the environment, they promise.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:31 | 6770847 SolidSnake961
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gop/libertarian's dream- smog everywhere and no regulations, at least they have their "JOBS", don't hurt the job creator controlling that deadly smog now

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:00 | 6771434 Ace Ventura
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Yes. CLEARLY the answer to China's smog problem is MORE GOVERNMENT. Cuz you know, they don't have much government input over there. Buncha libertarian radicals, those chinese.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:03 | 6771495 VinceFostersGhost
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MORE GOVERNMENT

 

Replace the EPA with the DMV......let's really screw up some crap!

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:09 | 6771509 Oldwood
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It is funny how collectivists will point at places like China as proof of capitalist failings. They obviously were a workers Utopia prior to engaging in their "capitalist" endeavors.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:04 | 6771498 Grimaldus
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Wow here it is, the progressive stupid in all its glory.

Hey genius, your buddies, the chinese commie progressives OWN that pollution shit show.

Not a constitutional conservative around is there?

Duh.

In order to kill your own citizens you first must have progressives in control.

 

Grimaldus

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 12:57 | 6772702 techpriest
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BTW, the darkness in Beijing in those photos is not only due to smog. Deforestation to the northwest has lead to growth of a nearby desert. I've gotten to experience one of the resulting sandstorms; the sky very suddenly turns black. That said, on a normal day it's diffucult to do the tourist thing because after a few hours of walking you start coughing from all the pollution.

Now for the "Libertarian dream," there is this outrageous principle called property rights. If I blew smoke in your face out of spite, it's an obvious crime. When a neighbor decided not to fix his septic system and literally let shit bubble up in my family's yard, that's a crime and said neighbor quite literally needed to clean his shit up. Using the power of the law to force people to accept damage to their person and property and not demanding the plant owner to pay damages is anti-libertarian.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:51 | 6770698 Duc888
Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:37 | 6770867 Cheduba
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Bullish for a new Chinese version of Obamacare - hundreds of millions of new patients for biotechnology startups!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:52 | 6770704 A Lunatic
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We do this every year......

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:59 | 6770729 nmewn
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...yeah but thats weather, this is climate dammit!

And centrally planned geographic location ;-)

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:53 | 6770706 DrZipp
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I have an idea.  Stop burning coal. Problem solved.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:58 | 6770726 buzzkillb
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Can't they just buy carbon credits? All problems solved!

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 05:35 | 6771357 Tall Tom
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I have a better idea...Vent the exhaust through a stainless steel precipitators to catalytically remove the sulfides.

 

Or even better they can centralize the operation and build Coal Fired Power Plants to provide the electricity to heat homes.

 

Yeah. You can use Coal cleanly. Too bad about scrubbing those COx from the exhaust. But the CO2 also PREVENTS the Thremal Radiation from the Sun entering into the Earth's Atmosphere as it reflects it away.

 

The Carbon Dioxide Gas does not work as a one way blanket. If it traps Thermal Radiation by reflecting it back to the surface of the Earth then it also reflects Thermal Radiation back into Space.

 

I am so sorry since that INCONVENIENT TRUTH (Pun Intended) screws up all of that Anthropomorphic Global Warming bullshit that the Algorean religion likes to spout. (Yes. Religion since it certainly is not based on any valid science.)

 

(It is NOT about the levels of CO2 or Methane. The Earth's Mantle has become extremely active which is releasing heat. This is EVIDENTIAL from the increase of the frequency of Earthquakes and Vulcanism, Geothermal activity. And Human Beings have absolutey NOTHING to do with that.)

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:56 | 6770718 The Duke of New...
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The smog and pollution are one of the big factors why the Chinese are moving out and buying up all the real estate in Hongcouver, opp's I mean Vancouver.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:02 | 6770739 willwork4food
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And the US too. At least we have clean air and water (usually).

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:11 | 6770774 Duc888
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"And the US too. At least we have clean air and water (usually)."

 

Yea, I'm lovin' that crazy chemtrail shit they've been spewing out over CT for the last few years.  Thow on some polarized sunglasses and you can really see the shit they're spraying.  Nuthin' sez clean air like a huge chemical rainbow over your head on a government induced hazy day.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:36 | 6771726 shovelhead
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They're spraying Libroleum.

They need more libs, so since their ideas are so flawed that logic and common sense will usually prevail, they resort to chemical mind alteration methods.

After an afternoon of mowing your CT. yard, you've breathed in enough Libroleum to want to vote for gun control to save the whales and weep about micro-aggressions against indigenous snails.

They've been soaking the NE in the stuff since the 60's.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:56 | 6770719 nmewn
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Man, good thing Obama made a climate deal with the Chi-Com's or this could have been a whole lot worse. Wait a minute! Lemme look at my tide gauge here...

Yep, the oceans are still receding and the ice packs are still growing, Obama's still in charge of the entire world and a global force for good.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 22:57 | 6770722 i_call_you_my_base
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The really bad pollution episodes in beijing are created by weather fronts forcing the smog back inland, not necessarily increases in coal use. Not that it's ever good, just worse.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 15:32 | 6773672 PTR
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Hey- you gotta sell Chinese on the whole globalist, climate-change agenda too, you know.

"We have all this smog because we don't have carbon taxes yet."

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:06 | 6770738 Wow72
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This is what money buys, the pure stupidity of a whole population to allow this to happen.  The American people should look closely at this and try not to be victims of corrupt governments themselves.  Dont let your government do TPP!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:05 | 6770752 Xatos
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China looks like a great place to play outdoor laser tag.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:05 | 6770755 Berspankme
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Spent a lot of time in Shenyang when I lived in China. It's a hellhole even when you can breathe

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:10 | 6771437 Ace Ventura
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If it's anything like Chinatown in NYC.....I believe it. What a nasty, disgusting place.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:06 | 6770756 Budnacho
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Never trust air you can't see.....

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:11 | 6770764 A Lunatic
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This shit is always trotted out just before these 'last chance to save the world from the ravages of global warming' climate summits. Strange how saving the world involves a handful of psychopaths taxing and controlling the rest of us, while they line their fucking pockets......

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:00 | 6771054 MEAN BUSINESS
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These UNFCCC conferences happen every year, but yeah, the last "last chance to save the world from the ravages of global warming" was Copenhagen 2009 COP 15 /CMP 5.

The reason COP 15 was a big deal is because it came in the wake of the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report. That's what governments base their major policy on. The reason COP 21 CMP 11 (begins November 30, mark your calendar and you'll requre a two week supply of popcorn) Paris is a big deal is because it comes in the wake of the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report.

So don't fret A Lunatic, it'll be ~5 years before the Sixth Assessment Report is complete ~ 2020, so the invisble handful of psychopaths won't be taxing and controlling you until then ; )

Or do you really think the 6% carbon tax that's been batted around for 25 years is finally going to appear in Paris?!? WOW! Paging Al Gore...

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:45 | 6771755 shovelhead
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I like watching all the private jets fly in and the gigantic limos the Climate Crusaders 'need' to get to their precious little get togethers.

The celebrity motorcades are particularly humorous.

Woodstock for Climate Wankers.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 11:16 | 6772141 MEAN BUSINESS
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I like watching those space shuttle and rocket launches that put those monitoring satellites up ( like 2015 DSCOVR aka Triana aka Al's Screensaver).

Now we're cooking with fire! Celebs like RUSH motor over to the Florida coastline to watch.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/about/history/timeline/80s-decade.html

But yeah, nothing short of ever even existing makes all climate wankers hypocrits. Even if they all murdered their own children and then committed suicide there'd be a carbon footprint from the burials / cremations.

Guess there's just no pleasing you shovelhead : (

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:12 | 6770768 One And Only
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If everyone would stop using smart phones none of this would happen.

I doubt the elites and politicians will do this right? They will only ask YOU to sacrifice.

Obama wants to stop global warming? He should ride a bicycle from Washington D.C to San Diego and than row a boat to Hawaii without eating meat.

If he's serious about global warming he should do it.

You citizen. You sacrifice.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:14 | 6771518 Oldwood
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or simply not exhale.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:13 | 6770778 Tachyon5321
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China's coal plants turn off their pollution controls at night. 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:14 | 6770784 kw2012
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What pollution controls?

 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:53 | 6770912 Automatic Choke
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did they contract with VW to implement that?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:13 | 6770779 kw2012
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They great news is that in a scant 20 OR 30 years from now, China will begin cutting back on pollution thanks to Obama wonderful agreement

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:15 | 6770787 logicalman
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All's well, the economy is growing at 7%

That means a doubling of pollution in 10 years.

Infinite growth - meet limited resources.

Math always wins.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:16 | 6771521 Oldwood
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Its a relatively closed system. it WILL rebalance, it just might be a bit painful is all.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:16 | 6770792 kedi
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It is all planned.

The weak have been weeded out. The remaining breeders show resistance to poison gases. Allow increased breeding of the strong. Lower the age of conscription.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:22 | 6770813 cougar_w
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Best part is they die of lung cancer long before they can retire and collect from the State pension system. Which is good because the pension system was looted by the ChiComm oligarchs anyway. 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:19 | 6770801 dochood
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Dandong, in Liaoning provice, across the river from the North Korean city of Sinuiju, was lovely on April 30 and May 1 of this year.  Unfortunately, I caught a "cold" walking back to the hotel with my pal / translator that night.  That "cold" got really, really bad in Beijing, walking up and down the hills at the Summer Palace.  My lungs were burning!

I spent ten days in China, going back to South Korea (which was none-too-clean, either) afterwards.  After another week in Korea, I came back to the US, and it took me two MORE weeks to cough up all the gunk!

I feel really bad for my friends who are stuck over there.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:43 | 6771021 mijev
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I'm not sure about south korea but I never saw a single healthy tree in the three cities I went to in Liaoning.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:20 | 6770804 cougar_w
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China is a real team player, taking one for the globalist team. 

What's the saying? Oh yeah -- pay 'em shit and use 'em like toilet paper.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:43 | 6770889 Vlad the Inhaler
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This is exactly what the USA would look like without those pesky environmental regulations that people whine about.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:36 | 6771009 mijev
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Good point VTI - some would argue that the visible pollution has just been transferred to china along with the jobs. I don't trust the US EPA any more than I do the chinese EPA and it's the shit you can't see in the air that will really fuck your lungs over.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:21 | 6771533 Oldwood
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Most sane people understood the need for the EPA...initially, BUT as with all good intentions, it will not go without punishment. They have so far exceeded their original mandate that they have now become a threat rather than an asset. We can recognize a positive role for government without endorsing tyranny.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:04 | 6771627 tarsubil
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Basic liability law should be all the environmental regulation you need. In the US, our pay to get away isn't quite as bad as China or the elites just want to keep this piece of land clean for their homes. Oh by the way, fuck off.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 12:50 | 6772661 Vlad the Inhaler
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I agree in theory, but the legal protection currently afforded to individuals by the corporate veil makes that fail in practice.  So you fuck off.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:43 | 6770890 roddy6667
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Looks like Bethlehem, PA in the Fifties. Or Pittsburgh. Is anybody here old enough to remember when America had heavy industry and bad air? It's easy to be clean when you have no industry.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:48 | 6770901 NoWayJose
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How are all those American factories you stole from us working out for ya - huh China?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 04:45 | 6771329 MD
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The rich Chinese who stole these factories from the US don't care. They're stealing prime housing from middle class Americans now. It's the poor unfortunate Chinese proles left behind who have to choke in this smog. Feel bad for the proles, and vote for politicians who will block the Chinese from buying US real estate.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 23:54 | 6770915 Automatic Choke
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Is that where the factories are that make all of those clean solar panels for us?  Thanks, China!

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:07 | 6770956 nnnnnn
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"worst episodes of air pollution recorded in China since authorities began releasing air quality data in 2013."

made me laugh a bit

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:21 | 6771673 de3de8
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Nnnnnnnn
Yeah, they will use thes stats to make case for GW

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:13 | 6770969 FrankHerbert
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don't worry china, Obola says i'm the worst kind of evil with my 2007 fossil fuel burning sled of steel i drive a whole 40 miles a week.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:23 | 6770988 mijev
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I like how greenpeace and other environmental groups are claiming what a great success cap and trade using carbon credits is having. Duh, you dumb motherfuckers, buyng carbon credits is cheaper than fixing pollution so what do you expect the broke governments of the world to do?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:22 | 6771536 Oldwood
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Especially when they can print all the money they need.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:29 | 6771001 mijev
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The chinese EPA likes to say that car emissions cause 20-30% of PM2.5 particulates, but when northern china gets its first cold snap you can see what happens when people start burning coal. But I watched a video once that asserted it's the stuff you can't see that is the worst in china and it comes from industry basically all year long. The people claim the government isn't doing enough but in their defense the chinese government is deploying a bunch of nuclear power stations. Bottom line what they certainly don't need in china or any other place on earth is more people.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:19 | 6771087 NoBillsOfCredit
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Nor nuclear power plants that can't be turned off and create deadly waste that can kill for thousands of years. These people need to learn about rocket mass heaters.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:45 | 6771127 MEAN BUSINESS
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"Bottom line what they certainly don't need in china or any other place on earth is more people."

 

Hey I know! How about an international conference resulting in a global agreement? But since China just drank the ROW's milkshake by announcing it's shiny new two-child policy, dya think we could start with that? We can adjust it to a zero-child policy if the situation deteriorates?

I'll go along with that as long as Chelsea Clinton gets an exemption.

1/2 sarc...

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:45 | 6771027 dust to dust
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 What exactly does the World Health Oganization do? I guess just another useless big bureaucracy.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:45 | 6771029 joego1
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Sum ting choking me

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:55 | 6771048 joego1
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How many iphones does it take to suffocate a Chinaman?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:56 | 6771049 hedgiex
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When Beijing (Capital) is under smog, surely you cannot be serious about the peripherals. Opportunities lie in outsourcing it to the neighbors who increasingly have no choices.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:01 | 6771056 Stevious
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What I find fascinating is that PM2.5 stands fro 2.5 micrometers, very tiny particles that only specialized filters filter remove.  Surgical masks, even multiple ones, worn at once, do little to filter 2.5 micrometer or smaller particles.  N95 masks do filter these particles, up to 95% greater than 0.3 microns.

Every photo I see has Chinese wearing surgical masks, I've neve seen anything that looked remotely like an N95.

Not available?  Too expensive?  Ignorance?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:07 | 6771636 BurningFuld
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Best way to clean the air. Have 1 billion Chinese inhale the particles and trap them in their lungs. Awesome air purification.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:02 | 6771060 Bazza McKenzie
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Coal burned in modern electric power plants produces very low particulate emissions (and neither CO2 nor water vapour are pollutants).  In addition it can be located away from centres of population.

But when people burn coal in their home heaters they do not have the mechanisms to remove particulate emissions.   So the problem is not coal but local heating.

But why is the local heating now causing a particular problem?  Perhaps because they have concentrated so many people once spread across the country into big cities and because they are more affluent they can each afford to burn more coal, as well as driving cars.

Why don't they just use electricity for heating?  Probably because it is more expensive (and that is with coal fired stations, let alone the much higher cost of wind generated power, as well as the frequent blackouts / no heating if you rely on wind).

By the way Tyler, since you are quoting Bloomberg, could you tell those morons that emission of carbon dioxide is not emission of carbon.  The latter is a solid at normal temperatures, the former is a gas essential to all life on earth and whose major component by atomic weight is oxygen.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:48 | 6771582 Crocodile
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More fun to blame to power plants since that fits the "war on coal".  You are probably correct in your assessment.  Nothing like Central Air.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:29 | 6771103 InnVestuhrr
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The horrific pollution in China is not just in the air, but also in the soil and water, and it is not just China, but all "developing countries". Then on a much higher scale, there are Japan and Russia, highly developed countries in terms of technology, with Fukushima and Chernobyl. I did some projects that involved testing water and soil around the world and the results are so depressing that they make me grateful that I am mortal.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 01:51 | 6771133 GRDguy
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Just another example of how to make cheaper products in another country.  Pass the cost of air pollution control onto the workers and local citizens.  Keep it out of the exported price of the goods.  That's just another reason the financial sociopaths moved American manufacturing to Asia.  They work cheap, and breathe the pollution they create themselves. Added bonus: population control.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:27 | 6771445 Powder
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That isn't smog. It's the remnants of American hopes and dreams. 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:28 | 6771446 Ace Ventura
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What the Chinese need to do is establish a government agency that will regulate industry, and implement a carbon tax on the people. They should also set up some sort of financial market exchange where industrial scale polluters can buy and sell carbon credits. By now the whole world knows doing these simple things will ensure a healthy, clean environment for everyone.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:22 | 6771537 Crocodile
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Like the sarcasm.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 07:46 | 6771463 RockySpears
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Why do people see this as a "thing"?

 

1952, Smog in London killed thousands, no big deal.

 

We have had our smogs and now we are cleaner.  China has its' smog period to through just like us.  We should not hold them up to standards we never met 150, 100, even 60 years ago.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:03 | 6771493 Bill of Rights
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May be sickening but at least they're producing unlike the Facebook retards that produce NOTHING!..See Millennials this is what a factory looks like, this is what a job is...

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:26 | 6771543 Crocodile
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"What's the point of having an environmental protection department"

 

The point is to wreck the environment, raise wacky activist, and control people's behavior via burdensome regulations.  I can only speak for the US.  I suggest adding a few good filters to those coal stacks.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:29 | 6771546 arby63
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Maybe buy some smokestack scrubbers from Wal Mart?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:10 | 6771645 BurningFuld
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They did but they broke after one day.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:31 | 6771552 Raul44
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Go on Chinese, make 2 kids instead of 0-1. Now you can, government approved it recently. (fools)  

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:38 | 6771563 Itsthetiming
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I love seeing comments from EPA haters who think they know what the USA would look like if industry made free choices.

Idiots. And that's why no president has scraped the EPA

Smog, cancer rates that would defy belief, deformed child births that would make the population look like something out of lord of the rings.

What's 50 million people with cancer and chocking air when little hillbilly Tim can have a job paying $8 an hour!

For a bunch of tin foil hats who claim the world is dictated by overlords, who then on the same token state free markets will decide who uses dangerous goods produced with environmental consequences, you really all are just plain idiots.

I support the EPA. I like tuna without mercury levels high enoug the sent me the route of China's first emperor, and I like not choking in the morning and I enjoy not dying in hospital because the neighbor used DDT.

According you bunch of morons there should be no such thing as bad chemicals and "let consumers decide", the same ones with IQs of melons!

Get stuffed and grow up.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:01 | 6771612 RockySpears
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DDT never killed no-one, not so much as an osprey.

 

What it did do was nearly eradicated Malaria within a few short years.

 

Then it was banned because of 1 ladies ludicrous crusade.

 

Now you have malaria back.

 

Congrats.

 

and look it up before you gainsay me

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:42 | 6771745 Crocodile
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Rachel Carson highlighted the dangers of DDT in her groundbreaking 1962 book Silent Spring. Carson used DDT to tell the broader story of the disastrous consequences of the overuse of insecticides, and raised enough concern from her testimony before Congress to trigger the establishment of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). - from a very left EPA activist sight.  Plenty of narrative and no links to ANY studies confirming or denying the so-called "facts".  Consensus science.

 

Here is what an UNTRUSTWORTHY CDC site states about DDT (note the language & lack of any evidence):

How DDT Affects People's Health  http://www.panna.org/resources/ddt-story  (wacho-envirnomental-nut whose goddess is "mother earth")

"Human health effects from DDT at low environmental doses are unknown. Following exposure to high doses, human symptoms can include vomiting, tremors or shakiness, and seizures. Laboratory animal studies (mice) showed effects on the liver and reproduction. DDT is considered a possible human carcinogen."......"Many DDT promoters are also in the business of denying climate change." 

 

The Lies of Rachel Carson  http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/summ02/Carson.html
by Dr. J. Gordon Edwards

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:47 | 6771759 Crocodile
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We have both a troll and a kook-aid drinking environmentalist, the same people who have done more to injure people and the environment than all wars combined in the past 100 years.  They should be the first to end their lives and kill their children for the good of their country.  Have you noticed the same people promoting Global Warming taxation are the ones with the largest carbon foot prints - hypocrites.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 10:13 | 6771886 shovelhead
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Here's your glorious EPA at work...Doing absolutely nothing about real environmental damage while it prevented my mother from redoing a 10'x10' patio slab in her backyard because a 70 year old map claimed her back yard was a "wetlands" because a long ago lost creek once was there behind a 200 year old house.

Yay EPA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV0EKE9nGgA

 

 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 10:40 | 6771993 SirBarksAlot
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How do you know the EPA is protecting us?

Maybe it was just a ruse to allow the big cats to take their factories overseas.

Why haven't they protected the bee population?

On the East coast, insect eating birds are disappearing rapidly.  Is it from the aluminum and barium in the chemtrails designed to "protect us from global warming?"  Why isn't the EPA doing anything about that?

Your point is taken, but in this day and age you gotta keep peeling the onion to get to the real story.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 08:57 | 6771598 ToSoft4Truth
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I'm going to Wal-Mart!!! 

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:00 | 6771607 Fix-ItSilly
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And Obama wants to tax Americans on the weather!

26% of the smog in LA comes from China.

We closed American factories, and lost jobs, because America won't establish proper tarrifs on China which has cheap production costs due to its unfair trade practices of embracing all forms of pollution to rape its land and people.

End this.  Place high, proper tarrifs on Chinese goods.  Jobs will return to America.  Global pollution will drop drastically.  The American resident won't be theived by its government under the pretenses that we are a root cause for 15,000 years of "global warming".

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:02 | 6771617 RockySpears
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An argument might be made that the US deserves the smog; it is, afterall, making your i-stuff.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:15 | 6771664 Fix-ItSilly
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Totally wrong.  Chinese factories stole the business from American factories party because American factories have higher costs due to environmental protections.

If the US properly applied WTO and US regulations, we would have tarrif'd Chinese imports a long time ago.  WTO - another sham.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 10:00 | 6771829 RockySpears
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Still, you gotta love Globalisation.  Where else in the world can you ...  oH ... wait... anywhere actually.

 

Nevermind

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:49 | 6771782 Crocodile
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Once we are completely impoverished and dumbed down, we will be the worlds cheap labor and the jobs will come right back; just give it one more generation (about 40 years).

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 15:02 | 6773511 Raul44
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You can thank your socialist government for that.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:02 | 6771610 Monetas
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Wind Farms .... can be turned into exhaust fans .... powered by dependable, clean burning coal ?

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:03 | 6771618 wizteknet
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having to ride a bike with a gas mask, sheesh thats some messed up

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:19 | 6771670 22winmag
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The government will investigate itself and find nothing wrong.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:27 | 6771693 Baby Eating Dingo22
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Sickening?

Not at all

This is a small sacrifice to make in the name of growth

The workd can't get enough plastic shit and chips

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:36 | 6771725 sharkbait
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this is one of the reasons their produicts are so cheap, no environmental regulations.  Help reduce chinese air pollution by buying American or European.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 09:48 | 6771776 Nanur
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Ahhh!  I can almost smell the "free market" at work without all those pesky anti-business EPA government regulations.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 10:02 | 6771838 MoHillbilly
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All of this happenend under one of the most controlling governments in history. What makes you think any other gov won't do the same if it suits their needs? You have been trained well, to fear the wolf outside ,while trusting the one inside.

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 10:16 | 6771894 Government need...
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Throw another tire on the fire and take your coat off.  Tires produce a lot of warmth!

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 10:39 | 6771986 Dorothea Binz
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I was raised in the suburbs of Los Angeles in the 1960s. For those unaware, 1960s Los Angeles was the worst smog an American city ever knew. With that, I feel I'm at least a self-proclaimed expert on smog. Of course, I didn't live in the worst of 1960s Los Angeles, but I could see it (or rather, not see it) from 20 miles away. But we still dealt with the smog alerts and eye-burning smog.  They would actually even ban suiting up for PE on some days when the smog was too stifling.  Judging by the pictures of Chinese smog I've seen, 1960s Los Angeles was a picnic . 

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