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Dear Striking Fast-Food Workers: Meet The Machine That Just Put You Out Of A Job
Today, U.S. fast-food workers will strike across 270 cities in a protest for higher wages and union rights that they hope will catch the attention of candidates in 2016 elections, organizers said.
The walkouts will be followed by protests in 500 cities by low-wage workers in such sectors as fast food and home and child care, a statement by organizers of the Fight for $15 campaign said on Monday.
The protests and strikes are aimed at gaining candidates’ support heading into the 2016 election for a minimum wage of $15 an hour and union rights, it said.
The strikes and protests will include workers from McDonald’s, Wendy’s, Burger King , KFC and other restaurants, the statement said.
And while we sympathize with their demands for higher wages, here is the simple reason why they will be very much futile.
Dear fast food workers of the US - presenting you nemesis: the Momentum Machines burger maker.
According to a recent BofA reported on how robotics will reshape the world, San Francisco start up Momentum Machines are out to fully automate the production of burgers with the aim of replacing a human fast food worker. The machine can shape burgers from ground meat, grill them to order with the specified amount of char, toast buns, add tomatoes, onions, pickles, and finally place it on a conveyor belt.
The robot is shown below. It occupies 24 square feet, and is much smaller and efficient than most assembly-line fast-food operations. It provides "gourmet cooking methods never before used in a fast food restaurant" and will deposit the completed burger into a bag. It does all of this without a trace of attitude.
According to public data, the company's robot can "slice toppings like tomatoes and pickles immediately before it places the slice onto your burger, giving you the freshest burger possible." Unlike human workers, the robot is "more consistent, more sanitary, and can produce ~360 hamburgers per hour" or a burger every 10 seconds.
Furthermore, future generations of the device "will offer custom meat grinds for every single customer. Want a patty with 1/3 pork and 2/3 bison ground to order? No problem."
As the company's website adds, "our various technologies can produce an ever-growing list of common choices like salads, sandwiches, hamburgers, and many other multi-ingredient foods with a gourmet focus."
But most importantly, it has no wage demands: once one is purchashed it will work with 100% efficiency for years. And it never goes on strike.
As the company's co-founder Alexandros Vardakostas told Xconomy his "device isn’t meant to make employees more efficient. It’s meant to completely obviate them."
The company's philosophy on making millions of fast food workers obsolete:
The issue of machines and job displacement has been around for centuries and economists generally accept that technology like ours actually causes an increase in employment.
The three factors that contribute to this are
- the company that makes the robots must hire new employees,
- the restaurant that uses our robots can expand their frontiers of production which requires hiring more people, and
- the general public saves money on the reduced cost of our burgers. This saved money can then be spent on the rest of the economy.
This is a major problem for the US economy, which once built on a manufacturing backbone, has seen the fastest jobs growth in recent years for workers employed by "food service and drinking places" i.e., fast food workers, waiters and bartenders.
Finally, for those complaining that there will be no "human touch" left to take the orders, robots have that covered too:
And now it's time to calculate how many tens if not hundreds of billions in additional welfare spending these soon to be unemployed millions in low-skilled workers will cost US taxpayers.
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Robotics soon coming to websites everywhere. Zero Hedge writers, you are fired. Robbie the writing robot will taking your place.
You either pay them well, or they become terrorists.
I say we pay them $15 an hour.
This invention is HORRIBLE, where will I get my youtube mcdonalds fights between people of a certain ethnicity behind and in front of the fast food counter with these machines??
Jerry Springer show?
Fuck fast food.
Give me slow food.
Home-grown grass-fed beef, slow roasted, with carrots and potatoes from the garden, and a slice of mrs_horseman's freshly-ground wheat bread topped with butter from our family cow, and a glass of her milk.
No salad? No red wine?
The first course was a garden salad.
Have you watched the movie, Food, Inc?
I didn't need to. I actively pay attention to how I feel after I eat something. I stopped going to places that made me feel like shit a long time ago.
Fast Food has already taken a sales hit in the last few years. This will just top it off, and now put a whole new group of unskilled or lower skilled workers back into the market. Good job
Layoff List: http://www.dailyjobcuts.com
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If I could buy one of these, I would actually think about opening a business. The government has made having employees too much of a hassle, but if you can do it all yourself, it's not nearly so bad.
company making that thing is probably one of the loudest advocates for raising the minimum wage.
Fuck that. I had to go down to Las Cruces yesterday and ate at the Buckhorn on the way back. It's been voted in the top 10 burger joints in the US for a reason. Right across the street from it is the original Owl Cafe, which has burgers that are almost as good. If any of you are ever on I25 in sourthern NM, stop in San Antonio NM and eat at one of those places. It's exit 139.
This is actually an old story, reported over a year ago;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ_fSP3LGw8
This video shows the machine in action
If they make this machine mobile, they can juss drive by the projects where all the ex-employees live and drop off fresh fake-beef burgers at their doors so they never have to leave their roach motels. Perhaps the next socialist version of our gubmint will pay for it.
Why have people drive it? Get an auto-driving, auto-meat-grinding, auto-food-preparing robot. I'll call it the Terminator, and I'll make millions inflating my customers... until I have no more customers.
The billionaires say we have a labor shortage and that is why we are letting in tens of millions more immigrants. Could there be a cognitive dissonance in action here?
Here we come on the run
with a burger on a bun
& a dab of coke on the side
oh your taste we will tickle
with a cold dill pickle
& all of our potatoes are [FREEDOM] fried ~lol
our burgers can't be beat
cause we grind our own meat
GRIND GRING GRIND GRIND GRIND
Fred Flintstone & Barney Rubble
are to BLAME for all our trouble
& if they think we'll forgive them
THEY'RE OUTTA THEIR MIND MIND MIND MIND MI-I-IND!!!
The owners of that McDonald's with no less than 5 self-serve pay stations are a bit optimistic I think. I haven't seen a line at a Micky Ds in years. . . .
Neither have I, but that could be because I have been inside a Micky Ds in years.... LOL
Virtualized people do not require "food". Buh Bitcoin today!
https://localbitcoins.com
Capital becomes the sole means of production. It is inevitable. It won't take brains or effort to make money, only money. And in case you all are too stupid to realize, "only money can make money" is a very exclusive positive feedback loop.
This robot burger machine was decades too late.
We should increase minimum wage to $100 an hour so that way all service level jobs will have to be automated.
I'm completely different than all of the other commenters on Zero Hedge. I hate labor and want to do away with it entirely. I want unemployment to be 100%. I want to abolish the entire monetary system and replace it with a resource based economy. I want robots and machines to do all of the blue collar work, and I want artificial intelligence to do all of the white collar work. This way we would be liberated from labor and liberated from finance. "Money" is just 1s and 0s that Yellen enters into a computer anyway, so to heck with money.
Sounds utopian? Well, I'm posting a comment on here that thousands around the world read on their PC screens, tablet or mobile device, which would have been "utopian" back in 1985.
Q: "Money" is just 1s and 0s that Yellen enters into a computer anyway, so to heck with money. Sounds utopian?
A: yes it is utopian. The owners of automated robotic factories will decide that they do not need the rest of population and will simply let it die off. That is your utopia
Spot on Debugas. It won't be a Utopian future. It'll be a Distopian one.
Whati is wrong with giving the folks a living wage? We have no more manufacturing. Non-college grads need to make a living, too. Cut the poor some slack.
Debugas: Hmmmmmm, what to do? Ummm, Death? Or Slavery? Death? Or Slavery? Geeee, I don't know, ummmmm, let me think about it ....
Fat fucks all use the drive thru.
Can't even get their lard asses out of the suv to walk inside to get their slop.
How long before the machine asks for $15/hour?
The machine's demands are simple: "Oil can. Oil can!"
How about a little fire, scarecrow?
Why do we still have shops? Why don't we just have great big vending machines? Vending machines are oooollld technology, man!
re "How long before the machine asks for $15/hour?" :
Depends on how the manufacturer worded the maintenance contract ...
I'm surprised the unions haven't attacked and tried to unionize the people who are manufacturing those machines.
I also wouldn't be surprised if they haven't advocated for any of these fast-food workers learning how to build, install, repair or maintain these machines or other automation machines.
That would be too forward thinking I guess for them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8lIkJ-2jCw
Picking out one disaster and attributing a cause based on just a few years of observation is BULLSHIT.
With out factoring in Ocean heat transport and cycles such as ENSO all you have is conjecture.
These people work at fast food joints for a reason.
So, even the "hamburger flipper" jobs are going by the wayside. What will be left for the disappearing middle class once the bankster confiscation is complete? I guess there will still be lawns to be mown and dog poop that needs to be scooped up. I wonder if one will need a college degree for that? Probably.
As cities like the 'Peoples Communist Sanctuary of Berkeley' raise minimum wage to $19/hour, you will see more and more of this....dumb fuckers.
Places like that might just throw a ban on these machines....or tax the ass off of them.
Machines don't spit in your food either.
If you miss that it will be on the menu ;)
After this machine is put into production, Momentum Machines will then introduce their latest invention.
It's called the Momentum XL1000. I grinds up ex fast food workers into hamburger meat.
Want $15 an hour?
Step into machine at right.
Long Pork Burgers to go.
Soylent green is people!
Lawn mowing robots are already here. People who are cheering this on will be like the mom and pop businesses that lost their shirts and homes and are now 80 year old walmart greeters living in apartments they can't afford and eating catfood who used to cheer on reaganomics. The backlash will be consumers uniting to support employee owned businesses, a.k.a. worker collectives.
Oooooh, reeeeal-ly? Oh noes. Gee. I guess you're right. I'd better re-attach my ball and chain and wander back into the cotton fields and start picking. No way could I live without my jawb!!!
Really? This is all you guys can think of? You mean, if I built a machine that could feed, clothe and house the world, all you could think of is, "Nup! Mustn't let this machine exist. It'll steal our jobs." What the fuck is wrong with you people? Machine does your job? GOOD! Jobs DON'T matter. PRODUCTION MATTERS. And DISTRIBUTION MATTERS. But all you care about is day-care for adults. Oh, give them a low-paying menial heap of shit job so they can pretend that they are doing something productive. Job creation is easy. Especially low-paid-job creation. Just abolish one dump truck and make people carry rocks by hand. Done. BUT THAT'S NOT VERY SMART, IS IT? When are you fucks gonna learn that if one man can do the job of ten, then nine men can take the day off. "Oooooh, that's not fair." Of course it's not fair. So hows about we employ one more brain cell and say if one man can do the job of ten, then suddenly people only have to work once every ten weeks and have nine weeks off? No? Why not IF the production is there? Machines were supposed to take our jobs. That was the whole idea. We're getting closer to building the uptopia that our ancestors worked for and suddenly everyone wants to scuttle the idea because it would require them to THINK HARDER.
Let's get real here. If your job cannot provide you with food, clothing and shelter then it is not a job. It is dismal daycare for dull adults (No offence - I've been there. But you gotta admit that you're there because you don't have any better ideas). If you have to rely on a promotion before you make good money then you are participating in a PYRAMID SCHEME, and what you actually produce is just a distraction from this fact.
Eeek! The machines will take our jobs that we couldn't offshore! I'll tell you right now, the machines are doing a hell of a lot more good for this world than offshoring does. Machines eliminate slaves. Machines save time. It is how we manage that time we save that is the problem. PRODUCTION is a problem. DISTRIBUTION is a problem. JOBS are not a problem.
Otherwise you get bizarre "economies" where people are paid to build houses that no-one can afford to buy, while others are homeless and yet more people are paid to destroy those empty homes ... oh wait!
Fucking when are people going to start waking up and using their brains?
I stopped reading you diatribe at the beginning of the second paragraph.
Obviously you have not read what anyone wrote either before blasting out this long tirade.
So let me counter point what I did read - NO ONE here is talking about banning the machines. The only things they have talked about is how the workers are screwing themselves because what they are doing will get these machines into the restaurants much quicker.... so the owners do not have to deal with their demands.
So tell me oh wise one ( and the other ten upvoters ), exactly what wage would a minimum wage worker have to accept in order to save their oh-so-precious minimum wage job from the machines? Okay, the R&D is obviously already done, capital costs will go down over time as they achieve economies of scale, so now we just need someone to refill the machines and a bit of electricity. Winning?
The wage should be whatever a worker voluntarily accepted, provided that wage still makes more economic sense than replacing the worker with the machine. Putting aside the insults (on both sides), I think Barking Cat's point was to state demanding unrealistically high wages (through government force presumably) would lead to automation faster than it would happen under free market conditions. The result being a product that costs more than it would have otherwise. Your OP seemed pretty heated and some may have taken that the wrong way. Many of this story’s comments seem to have been written by people that wouldn’t give you an argument on most of what you’d written. I thought you made a good number of valid points, especially as it relates to technological innovation, and unless I missed it you might have also added that the machines would require service and repair technician jobs which while fewer in number would be better higher skilled/higher paid jobs.
Re "...whatever a worker voluntarily accepted, provided that wage still makes more economic sense than replacing the worker with the machine." and that wage would be?
How much does the machine cost? What are its ongoing costs? If the main article was a piece of journalism instead of a piece of propaganda then it would answer these questions. But either way, it still points in the wrong direction. No jobs? Good. Just stop pretending that people have to starve because a machine is now doing their job. The production is happening. Production makes us rich. You want the excess people to earn their position in society before they get a share of production? Good. Now maybe others can work less hours per week as they share their jobs. The fact is that money is not doing the great job of distributing as well as others assert. The Capitalists would have people working their guts out in return for fuck-all money even though a machine could do the job.
Brains?
You make some salient points. However, the problem is that of DISTRIBUTION. The owner of capital will not be giving it away for free.
The end result will be upheaval. Just like the turn of the 20th century with industrialism driving people from the land.
It may work out. It may not. Either way it's going to be one hell of rocky road to a destination no common man can see, nor willingly embark upon.
WARNING: TURMOIL AHEAD.
By my count, this is at least the fourth time that ZH has run a "Automatic hamburger machines are going to take your jobs unless you agree to work your guts out for less pay" type article. I was wondering if I should just start ignoring them. They add no useful information to the system and they're just scare trips for the ignorant. But I thought, "What the hell", I'll add my little say again. If they can recycle articles then I can recycle my comments - though I was in a hurry this time. I've done a better job on previous occasions.
"The owner of the capital will not be giving it away for free": True. They got loans they need to pay off! Plus, once you've tasted a system of making money, I guess it is very easy to get addicted to making more of these systems. "Yeah, the reason I got rich was so I could buy a Ferrari, but buying and driving Ferraris costs money whereas doing business deals makes me money. Perhaps I'll buy the Ferrari next week." (I don't know if rich people actually think like that. I just wonder if they do. Couldn't blame them for getting carried away in that respect.)
Re "The owner of the capital": How does one go about acquiring capital? I mean, we supposedly live in a Capitalist system and yet when I look at myself and the people around me, it is quite obvious that most of us have NO IDEA about what it takes to actually acquire Capital. I used to think it involved working hard and saving hard while in a jawb ... and then using my savings to buy capital. Granted, some businesses can be started for very little capital. But eventually I realised that somewhere along the line, working hard and saving hard simply isn't enough. One has to take on DEBT. (Not to worry, if the Capital pays off its own loan then that is GOOD Debt.) Point being, the reason there are so few Capitalists in our so-called Capitalist society is that so many people have no idea on how to acquire said Capital. It's not as easy as it looks. (Plus sooo many people just prefer to get drunk and party on the weekends).
Good post PT.
Actually acquiring capital IS easy. Just not fun. That's why so few people do it.
It's not that they don't know how - they have no inclination to even try, let alone DO it.
That, more than anything else shows you why there are so few rich folk about - most people just can't delay gratificaton - and building empires, large and small takes sacrifice.
They can always opt for pitchforks and torches. Assuming they can afford them.
1. When clever / lucky Capitalist has all the property he gets all the money, and then the Monopoly game ends and all the pieces go back into the box. Even the rich Capitalist can no longer play. Who can pay him rent? They have no money! Thatcher was wrong. Game can only continue if poor can somehow get money. US is wrong too. US tries to continue game by giving money to banks and richest Capitalists. Monopoly game CANNOT continue by only giving money to winner!
2. Stupid impoverished slaves try to make money by selling money to other stupid impoverished slaves. Think! Can only make money by selling expensive hamburgers to rich people. That's where the money is!
P.S. I don't think Jamie Dimon could even eat that many hamburgers! Forget Trillion Dollar Platinum coin. Think Trillion Dollar Hamburger!!! or Trillion Dollar Chinese meal so an hour later he gets hungry again and buys another one...
--> Real minimum wage = $0.
--> Fiat, statutory minimum wage = $15
If worker is not worth $15 to employer, he is let going and new wage for that worker is now $0. Congratulations on unwarranted pay raise.
The worker, now unemployed, can qualify for EBT, and use EBT to buy the products produced by the robot that replaced his jawb.
But, but, but, if there are no fast-food workers, to whom is Walmart going to sell all their crap? EBT users? Then everyone will know that Walmart is just making money from govt handouts! Got ... to ... keep ... the ... illusion ... going ...
That pretty much sums up how the economy is going. It think a transhumanist professor at Reading University asks why we need jobs anyway? The problem is that bored/unemployed people tend to have a lot of kids. You end up with a situation of those few left with jobs and Robots working to finance an under-class just to breed.
If those people had a 3 digit IQ it could lead to an existential crisis; instead it just leads to more demands for free stuff, and since the morons (literally in some cases) are allowed to vote, they vote themeselves more free shit.
In Baltimore, each kid is subsidized to the tune of $15,000 yet they still only have and average IQ of only 85. Even in Nigeria where they have a fraction of the resources they can get better results. Said morons blame their failure on everything but themeselves. Meanwhile Marxist/Leftist agitators rile them up with identity politics. Once the dollar and gravy train falls flat on it's face, I can't see things turning out well for the USA.
Boris: If worker cannot feed, clothe and house himself for less than $15 per hour then job is not job. It is dull adult day-care. Take lead from Capitalists: "If there is no profit then I will not do it." Better off to sit on beach with EBT card than to work guts out pretending you are contributing to society when in reality you are going backwards and still have to rely on govt handouts.
Take lead from real estate industry: Houses kept off market in order to keep house prices high.
Keep labour off market to keep labour prices high.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLr5oWfoWRY
According to Peter Schiff, (at the time), a doubling of the minimum wage would increase Walmart prices by 15%. Now think about that backwards. By taking 50% "pay cut" (not getting wage rise), prices are 13% cheaper. (What would have cost $1.15 is still only a dollar --> 1- 1/1.15). Winning?
Who shops at Walmart and McDs? Minimum wage workers. What is the limit to how much they spend? Obviously, this is not where to finish thinking. This is where to start thinking.
Will McDs workers spend more at Walmart ( and vice-versa ) if they get a pay rise or if they get a pay cut? Hint: Labour < total expenses. (okay, if you look into it really deeply then actually, ALL expenses are labour. Cow and electricity give service completely for free! Now we are arguing relative labour costs and that is why I said this is where the thinking starts, not where it finishes. Keep going ...)
"Hold the mayo, extra cheese, and a smile, please."
" I'm feeling nostalgic today. Drop mine on the floor and hock a loogie on the patty to give it that old fshioned taste"
Boogers and cum?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x39sxfn
IRL cum in the yogurt story:
As sick as the story is, it was just too funny that the dude got busted because some woman recognized the taste.
Mrs Friedman: "I've had this taste in my mouth before."
Bimbeau: "It does have a little wang to it. Good, though."
Lawrence! Lawrence of Araaaaaabia! He's an English guy. Came to fight the Tuuuuurkish!
The sick fuck got two years for that:
http://www.koat.com/Man-Gets-2-Years-For-Semen-Sample-At-Sunflower-Marke...
Yeah, with wages that low it's hard to find consciencious help. What's that phrase again? Oh yeah, "You only get what you pay for".
If in Ocala FL stop at The Dish, a farm-owned restaurant that serves all non-GMO food and grass-fed Wagyu beef.
Any places to recommend in the ABQ?
Perea's in Corrales (IIRC, there is another Perea's in the heights that is not affiliated) is awesome, though I will warn that their chile ranges from really, really hot to pretty mild, depending on the day. Unless you are already in the north part of town, you get on I-25 North and go to the Alameda exit. Stay on Westbound Alameda until you cross over the river, and then turn right on Corrales road. Perea's is a few miles down on the east side of the road (the mountains are East,) looks kind of scary from the outside, saying "Tijuana Bar" on the outside of the building, but when you get inside, it's actually a 200-300 year old Adobe house that is really nice. In the winter, the owner normally keeps a Pinion/Juniper fire going. FYI, they have weird hours, and if you want to eat there, plan on it being lunch.
Also, if you want some really good pizza, there is a place on Corrales road called Village Pizza. It will also be on the East side of the road.
If you want a run-of-the mill burger joint, Blake's Lotaburger is popular and so is Bob's. They're all over. If you want to witness the most efficient restaurant in town, go to the Frontier. The food isn't bad, and they know just how much of their more common items are going to be sold at what time, so you can get a fresh Frontier burrito in almost the time it takes you to walk from the register to the pickup counter. Plus they make their tortillas fresh on site. Oh, and if you want a treat, get a Frontier roll. They're probably terrible for you, but they are friggin' awesome. That's on Central right across from the University. Everybody in town knows where it is, so all you have to do is ask. There are a lot of little restaurants on Central, but I don't frequent them, so I can't tell you which are good.
If you want to sample some of the local breweries, Marble is my favorite, but Kelly's isn't bad and Turtle Mountain is pretty good. So is the Boxing Bear.
If you want to drive out to the town of Bernalillo, you can go to the original Range Cafe. That's pretty good. IMO, you want to go to the original one though.
The Flying Star is also really popular, FWIW, but I'm not a fan.
Just an FYI, we put red or green chile on EVERYTHING. Seriously, I put it on my eggs this morning, and I've been known to put it on pasta.
@SWR - you are probably right about that. They probably have skilled workers assembling those machines and already pay them that amount, so it won't effect their payroll. But it will make the cost of having employees skyrocket for mcdonalds, which will make them a lot more likely to buy these machines. So, by helping pass this new minimum wage, they are essentially getting the government to MAKE people but their product....how very American of them.
Of course they are. It's good for their business.
I'm not sure I want to visit a fast food restaurant that doesn't have some minority sneering at me with an attitude that questions my right to order a burger to my specifications. It will really throw off my whole experience of being threatened along with suspecting that the food was contaminated because of the dialect of voice when I ordered the food through the remote microphone. I say pay them the $15/hour, they certainly can fuck up way more business than that, given their propensity to act like assholes.
OR, fire all of those morons and save yourself the headaches as a manager. Close call on this one.
I'll guarantee you that if they are cutting costs in one corner, they are cutting costs everywhere. They can't even be bothered training their staff decent customer service skills anymore? You don't think they're using all that money they save to invest in the finest ingredients, do you?
"Take a look at your local fast food shop. The business run totally by teenagers who you can't even get to clean their room."
McDs used to be famous for clean shops and awesome service. ( I never go there - always hated the smell of the place - even 30 years ago). Sounds like something changed over the years. Does anyone know when it started changing?
Like working at McDonalds?
The workers at :41 into the movie look like they are feeling pretty good, and not too worried about robots taking their jobs.
I can't eat fast food crap anymore either. Makes me feel sick.
Better off cooking at home with honest ingredients including backyard garden (been toying with hydroponics for the last year... solar powered).
Go all the way and build an aquaponics system!
People think I'm weird for doing that!
That is a good sign!
Eat at home; cook from scratch. Best way to manage your diet and your health.
Go to McDonalds - Suffer from the McGurgles!
I cook from scratch probably 98% of the time and usually regret the other 2%
I'm a big fan of a full on big English breakfast.
Bacon, eggs, black pudding, fried tomatoes and sutéed mushrooms. White bread!!!
A mug of black coffee that you need both hands to stir, with plenty of sugar.
The trick is to go out and burn it all off afterwards!
Looks like the family cow made it to the middle ofthe plate ;)
No. That is her baby.
...or read The Omnivores Delemma. Factory farmed beef is toxic. Yet the muppets still swoon over Iowa GMO corn fed beef, not so much pink slime anymore. Oh it make the beeves sick because they can't digest corn properly? So you pump them full of antibiotics and also growth hormones while they stand in their own toxic waste. I wonder where that ends up? Moooo.
Last year, my neighbors had their 50th anniversary and I was invited. They had it at a place that raises a lot of their own food. I had the ribeye. It was grass fed, and holy shit! It's what I remember beef tasting like when I was a kid.
But I've been living off of deer and elk for the past few years. I don't even know what hamburger costs anymore.
This kickass healthy-themed grocery store by my house has bomb organic steaks for cheaper than shit. Just gotta know where to look
A cow elk will typically last more than a year, and is good for at least 2 in the freezer, plus on years that I don't draw for a hunt, I go along and help out with buddies' hunts and they give me some of the meat. Either way, I have a blast going out into the middle of nowhere with good friends and hunting. Plus, I get to see places that the vast majority of people don't even know exist.
Excellent Vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWX3Uwj08hw
That movie opened my eyes, I knew it was bad but I didn't know how bad
I was drink my wine from a bottle in a paper bag.
Modernize, buddy, modernize. Wine is now drunk from boxes....
Box of wine and a pint glass. Nuff sed
Vino Collapso!
Just stick a straw in it and pretend you're drinking Ribena.
Cardbordeaux
"Wine is now drunk from boxes...."
Hence the term "carboardeaux"
Dining with milk? That neck of yours really needs some sunscreen chap...
Damn you for showing me that mouth-watering meal. If I ate like that regularly I'd weigh 300 lbs.
That is simply not true. I am 6-3 and well under 200, while mrs_horseman is 5-9 and under 130.
I don't grow my own, but I don't eat bad food. I get my nutrition with a minimum of processed, GMO, additives&preservatives crap. The pounds still go on quite a bit easier near age 50 than they did at 30.
Oh shit. I'm already at the point of saying that at 30.... Better work out more. And it's getting to be expensive eating like that. I started buying the grass fed organic ground beef 4 years ago(I credit my wife for changing my diet) and it has doubled in price since then. I keep 15-20 of the sealed 1 pound packs in my freezer, buy all I can those rare occasions when it's on sale. And that's only beef, most other things have gone up at least 30-50% for organics.
Doubled in 4 years? But that’s like... 18.9% inflation! Carl ... give your head a shake, dude. Everyone knows inflation is only 1.5%. That meat can’t possibly have increased by more than ... let’s see now,
1.015^4 = 1.061363550625 so, 6.136% over 4 years, not 100%.
Geez, next you’ll be telling us that unemployment isn’t at that comfortable 5% level.
That’s just crazy talk, Carl.
Didn't HH just write an article on how to fix that? Ride a bicycle. I don't use on to commute to work, but I ride after work for fun weather permitting. To nasty to ride outdoors I ride the indooor trainer. Put 5,600 miles on my bike so far in 2015.
I average about 100 miles a week over the year. More in summer, less in winter, but I ride probably 360 days a year, barring injury.
lap swim for an hour five times a week... that'll fix that problem right quick...
I started doing that 10 years ago when I was at the local pool and realized that all the people in the rec swim area were fat whales, but everyone in the lanes putting in laps simply were not, regardless of age or gender...
it's super easy, too... easy on your joints, builds up your wind, touches muscles you didn't realize you had, and the thermal load on your body burns calories just from being in the water... I'd recommend swimming to anyone for long term health...
Did interval swimming for 12 years. Mixed bag. Chlorine and CBP (chlorine by products) eventually poisoned me.
Did interval swimming for 12 years. Mixed bag. Chlorine and CBP (chlorine by products) eventually poisoned me.
Where I am currently living: grass fed beef, grass fed raw unhomozenized milk in glass jars, sometimes the lady makes kefir, pastured chickens the people raise their own grain feed since no organic feed is available, same with eggs, AMAZING group of organic growers at the farmer's market, food paradise!
"Food" made by a machine? How sad people (can) eat that stuff. The lead picture (a hamburger?) appears the machine would taste better, and likely be more nutritious.
May I suggest something sweet for desert:
http://www.thepornster.com/video/357/hot-teen-girlfriend
Anonymous Loser.
cutting loose lets you focus on BTFD rather than pu-tang bruh,
X box processor failure due to excessive heat is my bet? They just don't cool well enough.
That's how I eat. I live in mid-town in a decent sized city and have 9 chickens and a large garden. Eggs are phenomenal. When we get meat, it's local grass-fed and they sell it at the farmer's market for $8.00/lb. I'm willing to pay that. Otherwise, we catch a lot of fish. So it's veggies from the garden with a good healthy protein, followed by one or eight cold-beers (just started home-brewing).
hedgeless, My daughter and I are going back into the free range chicken business. She bought 100 acres in the country, and we are going to split the coup between layers and meat producers. Due to the work and expenses, we keep all produce for family members only. When she was young we lived in the country and raised chickens for family. A chicken that eats fresh green grass, lays in the sun all day getting fat, cleaning up in a dirt bath, then chasing insects and worms for snacks, at night they get a nice bucket of corn to fatten them up. The quality of the meat is just impossible to describe.
Google Joe Saladin's chicken tractor. With 100 acres seems like you could use it.
Hard-working woman, land, cool step-dad.
How do I submit my application?
Male, 40's, extremely good-looking.
Anti-government views.
Hates Joos.
Looks amazing...
Had a burger made by one of these machines in Evanston, IL. Tasted like shit, was super dry.
GL trying to use these. You need at least 3 employees anyway: one to make sure the ordering machines are working, one to make sure the burger machine is working (plus keeping it fed with beef, keeping the conveyor clean, etc), and one to make fries. How could you serve a burger without fries?
Also, this machine looks shitty. In overall design and manufacture. Where the steam cleaning assembly? What your gonna just dump new ketchup on top of day old? And mayo? Your gonna let the conveyor just accumulate shit? What about burgers that get fucked up because the oven isnt hot enough? Because it was placed badly on the conveyor?
Machines are a hassle, I deal with them every day. The more robotic elements, the more mistakes that can happen. Also, you would either need to purchase an external maintenance service or have a technician on call. I reall really doubt these machines can actually beat the price of 4 people paid 30k a year. Highly doubt it.
Thank for a rational answer/explaination. Fast food stinks because the process stinks, so do the ingredients....getting rid of people is not going to make piece of shit burger taste better. What would be great, a lot of ......hands on burger joints opening, with owners on premisis, workers paid what they are worth for value added to the product. As the entire economy crumbles in to particle board, the corporate BLOB model where so many work may disappear ....who is going to be able to buy their shitty products either made here or in China. Products not meant to last, made by slave labor. The era of built in obsolesence was only a short term quick profit model.....the more enterprising among us have to develop a new model for work and living. But I fear there is going to be hell to pay first. All those supposed jobs building the machines will go to China or Mexico or possibly Germany or Japan, they sure as hell will not be staying in USSA. BUT ......The big crash comes first, then we sink or swim....I often wonder..what would this country and world be like if we had pursued the stars like Kennedy wanted rather then the CRIPPLING ""war on poverty"" or Vietnam and rest of the wars good old USSA has pursued the last 50 years. The optimist in me think on one hand we will go to the stars, or maybe we end up living like the Amish or Mennonites, or like the group of monks out in Wyoming. I just want the bad crap to hurry up so man can move onto the next NON MACHINE NON TECHNOCRATIC level...screw singularity and the damned asshole luciferians pushing it. I fear there will be literal hell to pay before we are all raising organic food and living less tied to machines that make us less human....while some of go to the stars and the next step in mans development. Or we may all end up going the way of the dinosaur.
Ice nice I guess this machine will know when ecoli hits billion cells per oz of beef or does it clean itself also,? or do lowly humans do that job??
Does it matter?
these robots will never work unless they spit and wipe the floor with my food. i am so use to the taste of adulterated food that 'clean' food would be bland. unless an illegal or ghetto slug has wiped their ass on my birger i just cant taste it.....
That's a fine looking meal that should help to keep you healthy and away from the pharmacy counter. Well done!
McFUCKED !!
"Home-grown grass-fed beef"
Isn't it great when you know what's in your beef? We still have a freezer full of our own grass-fed, hormone and antibiotic free Longhorn beef in our freezer. Our current calf crop is a Longhorn-Angus F1 cross. It will be an experiment on growout time for us. So far, our calves are ranging from 41 to 62 pounds at birth. We do have a first time heifer we are keeping a close eye on though.
HH you trotted out this pic and gratuitous sales pitch the last time you bashed the FF industry.
Mind at least changing up the Home Grown Down On The Farm Vittles Motif a little?
How are you supposed to jam that into a bag and out the take-out window at 2:47a? ?!
I hope it's all pictures 'cause Americans can't read:
According to a study conducted in late April by the U.S. Department of Education and the National Institute of Literacy, 32 million adults in the U.S. can't read. That's 14 percent of the population. 21 percent of adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high school graduates can't read.
" Yes we can! "
And they are all accepting high paying, all powerful, gubmint jobs so that they can tell you literate peoples how to live your lives - or go to jail/lose your job. What a swell system we have.
Funny that you say it like that because that's exactly how I feel when I go into the post office or DMV. A couple years ago we were in the social security office to change my wife's name after we got married.... Holy. Fucking. Shit. About the only place I haven't seen what you describe was the people doing the fingerprinting and paperwork for the CCW at the sheriffs office, I'll give them credit for both being competent at their jobs and especially for not wasting any of my time, but that's about it around here.
They can read, but only single syllable words.....
<< 19 percent of high school graduates can't read. >>
There's a gubmint job that's just waiting for these folks!
...and who was responsible for the education?
Both my kids had basic rading skills and could count before they went off to be indoctrinated.
At school, they were schooled.
At home, they were educated.
Bullshit...there's a job at McDonalds waiting for them. Oh wait !
You don't need to be able to read to clean the machines!
it's even better if you can't read the labels on the detergent bottles...
The labels are on the pallet, the bottles are blank
"The labels are on the pallet, the bottles are blank"
Not any more. Under Globally Harmonized Systems everything get labels right down the end-user packaging. YOu have to know the chemical name to get the MSDS.
If workers can earn $15 per hour, then Savers need to form a union and demand 15 cents per year for every dollar saved in a bank.
It's only fair
Fight for 15%
That will ratchet up the fed's quest for inflation.
Just as long as there is a sexy little teen at the drive through window .. maybe you could pay her $30 hr if she's looks like the help on TV ads
side boob, ummmm
Is that final tube for mayonaise/spit?
I fondly remember McDonald's as a teen. Cute girls from school worked there after school. You would patiently wait for your order as they turned around showed off the real draw for the place.
The teen guys worked in the back.
Now? lol.
pods
I worked at mcd's for TWO WEEKS when I was 16. So revolted I quit and never ate there again.
Any recreational orifices on that robot? Sign me up for management training!
Now, middle aged mexican men and women that hate whitey
So all the fired fast food workers are now going to be hired by the company that builds the machines, eh?
No they will turned into the 'blended meat'
Soylent Greed.
Those fights are precious