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The Deep State: The Unelected Shadow Government Is Here To Stay
Submitted by John Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,
“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government, owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.” ? Theodore Roosevelt
America’s next president will inherit more than a bitterly divided nation teetering on the brink of financial catastrophe when he or she assumes office. He will also inherit a shadow government, one that is fully operational and staffed by unelected officials who are, in essence, running the country.
To be precise, however, the future president will actually inherit not one but two shadow governments.
The first shadow government, referred to as COG or continuity of government, is made up of unelected individuals who have been appointed to run the government in the event of a “catastrophe.”
The second shadow government, referred to as the Deep State, is comprised of unelected government bureaucrats, corporations, contractors, paper-pushers, and button-pushers who are actually calling the shots behind the scenes right now.
The first shadow government, COG, is a phantom menace waiting for the right circumstances—a terrorist attack, a natural disaster, an economic meltdown—to bring it out of the shadows, where it operates even now. When and if COG takes over, the police state will transition to martial law.
Yet as I point out in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, it is the second shadow government, the Deep State, which poses the greater threat to our freedoms. This permanent, corporatized, militarized, entrenched bureaucracy is unaffected by elections, unaltered by populist movements, and beyond the reach of the law.
This is the hidden face of the police state.
These two shadow governments, which make a mockery of representative government and the “reassurance ritual” of voting, have been a long time in the making. Yet they have been so shrouded in secrecy, well hidden from the eyes and ears of the American people, that they exist and function in contravention to the principles of democratic government.
As the following makes clear, these shadow governments, which operate beyond the reach of the Constitution and with no real accountability to the citizenry, are the reason why “we the people” have no control over our government.
The COG shadow government plan was devised during the Cold War as a means of ensuring that a nuclear strike didn’t paralyze the federal government.
COG initially called for three teams consisting of a cabinet member, an executive chief of staff and military and intelligence officials to practice evacuating and directing a counter nuclear strike against the Soviet Union from a variety of high-tech, mobile command vehicles. If the president and vice president were both killed, one of these teams would take control, with the ranking cabinet official serving as president.
This all changed after the attacks of September 11, 2001, when it became clear that there would be no warning against a terrorist attack. Instead of waiting until an attack occurred to mobilize part-time bureaucrats and activate evacuation schemes, George W. Bush opted to change COG and establish a full-time, permanent shadow government, stationed outside the capital, run by permanently appointed (not elected) executive officials.
COG has since taken on a power—and a budget—of its own.
Incredibly, under the Obama administration, the plans for the shadow government have expanded and grown far more elaborate and costly than many realize. It is what investigative journalist William M. Arkin refers to as “the latest manifestation of an obsession with government survival.”
In much the same way that the nation was taken hostage after 9/11 by color-coded terror alerts and “See Something, Say Something” campaigns that transformed us into a fearful, watchful nation of suspects, the government’s efforts to prepare us for a so-called national disaster have, in turn, left us a constant state of near-emergency and acclimated us to the sight of militarized police, military drills on American soil, privatized prisons, the specter of internment camps, and the erosion of constitutional rights, especially as they pertain to so-called “extremists,” domestic or otherwise.
Study the COG plans carefully, however, and you’ll find that the concern isn’t so much about protecting our government as it is about protecting the nation’s governmental elite.
As Arkin reports: “Countless billions have been spent on this endeavor over the years, a secret orgy of preparedness going on behind the scenes, one that ensures Washington can defend itself, take care of its own, and survive no matter what.”
To this end, the government has invested heavily in the “architecture of fear”: massive underground bunkers—the size of small cities—which are sprinkled throughout the country for the government elite to escape to “in case of an imminent nuclear strike so that they can set up a kind of Administration-in-exile, directing every order of business from retaliation to recovery.”
These bunkers, strategically located around the nation’s capital and in key states, represent a who’s who on the shadow government’s payroll, with every department and agency represented, from the Department of Education and the Trademark Office to the Small Business Administration and the National Archives.
No sector has been overlooked: military, surveillance, counterintelligence, scientific, political, judicial, corporate contractors, as well as computer programmers, engineers, fire fighters, craftsmen, security guards, branch chiefs, financial managers, supply officers, secretaries and stenographers, all of whom have been entrusted with special ID cards allowing them clearance into the doomsday survival sites. They’ve even included individuals tasked with patent and trademark processing. They even have contingency plans to save priceless works of art.
The Federal Relocation Arc near Washington DC will reportedly serve as the emergency bunker for “every Cabinet department (and every government organization deemed essential).” Site R, a 700,000-foot facility inside Raven Rock Mountain near Camp David, will serve as a backup Pentagon. Peters Mountain near Charlottesville, Va., is the likely site for the nation’s domestic spies to hide out. Congress will retire to a subterranean facility near the posh Greenbrier resort in West Virginia, which served as an internment facility for Japanese, Italian and German diplomats during World War II. And a 600,000-square-foot complex inside Virginia’s Mount Weather is expected to be the primary relocation site for the White House, the Supreme Court and much of the executive branch.
Built into the side of a mountain, Mount Weather, near Bluemont, Va., is staffed 24 hours a day, seven days a week. This self-contained facility contains, among other things, a hospital, crematorium, dining and recreation areas, sleeping quarters, reservoirs of drinking and cooling water, an emergency power plant, a radio/television studio and a full-time police and fire department.
There is also an Office of the Presidency at Mount Weather, which regularly receives top-secret national security information from all the federal departments and agencies. This facility was largely unknown to everyone, including Congress, until it came to light in the mid-1970s. Military personnel connected to the bunker have refused to reveal any information about it, even before congressional committees. In fact, Congress has no oversight, budgetary or otherwise, on Mount Weather, and the specifics of the facility remain top-secret.
These facilities reinforce a troubling government mindset that treats the American people as relatively insignificant and expendable. Because you know who’s not on the list of key-individuals-to-be-saved-in-the-eventuality-of-a-disaster? You and me and every other American citizen who is viewed as a mere economic unit to be tallied, bought and sold by those in power.
Not to worry, however. The government hasn’t completely forgotten about us.
In the event of a “national emergency”—loosely defined as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions”—the executive branch and its unelected appointees will be given unchecked executive, legislative and judicial power.
In such an event, the Constitution will effectively be suspended, thereby ushering in martial law.
However, writing for Radar magazine, Christopher Ketcham suggests that the government won’t have completely forgotten about the rest of us. In fact, Ketcham believes that the government also has plans to imprison hundreds of thousands of “potentially suspect” Americans in detention camps.
Ketcham describes a program created by the Department of Homeland Security that relies on a database of Americans who might be considered potential threats in the event of a national emergency. Referred to by the code name Main Core, this database reportedly contains the names of millions of Americans who, “often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. The database can identify and locate perceived ‘enemies of the state’ almost instantaneously.”
Sounds unnervingly like the objectives of the government’s new Domestic Terrorism Czar and the Strong Cities network, which will be working to identify and target potential extremists, doesn’t it?
Under Ketcham's scenario, if a terrorist attack occurs, the president will declare a national emergency, activating COG procedures and throwing the country into martial law with the shadow government at the helm. The administration will then round up the “dangerous” Americans listed in Main Core and place them in one of the many internment camps or private prisons built for just such an eventuality.
For all intents and purposes, the nation is one national “emergency” away from having a full-fledged, unelected, authoritarian state emerge from the shadows. All it will take is the right event—another terrorist attack, perhaps, or a natural disaster—for such a regime to emerge from the shadows.
As unnerving as that prospect may be, however, it is the second shadow government, what former congressional staffer Mike Lofgren refers to as “the Deep State, which operates according to its own compass heading regardless of who is formally in power,” that poses the greater threat right now.
Consider this: how is it that partisan gridlock has seemingly jammed up the gears (and funding sources) in Washington, yet the government has been unhindered in its ability to wage endless wars abroad, in the process turning America into a battlefield and its citizens into enemy combatants?
The credit for such relentless, entrenched, profit-driven governance, according to Lofgren, goes to “another government concealed behind the one that is visible at either end of Pennsylvania Avenue, a hybrid entity of public and private institutions ruling the country according to consistent patterns in season and out, connected to, but only intermittently controlled by, the visible state whose leaders we choose.”
This “state within a state” hides “mostly in plain sight, and its operators mainly act in the light of day,” says Lofgren, and yet the “Deep State does not consist of the entire government.”
Rather, Lofgren continues:
It is a hybrid of national security and law enforcement agencies: the Department of Defense, the Department of State, the Department of Homeland Security, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Justice Department. I also include the Department of the Treasury because of its jurisdiction over financial flows, its enforcement of international sanctions and its organic symbiosis with Wall Street.
All these agencies are coordinated by the Executive Office of the President via the National Security Council. Certain key areas of the judiciary belong to the Deep State, such as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, whose actions are mysterious even to most members of Congress. Also included are a handful of vital federal trial courts, such as the Eastern District of Virginia and the Southern District of Manhattan, where sensitive proceedings in national security cases are conducted.
The final government component (and possibly last in precedence among the formal branches of government established by the Constitution) is a kind of rump Congress consisting of the congressional leadership and some (but not all) of the members of the defense and intelligence committees. The rest of Congress, normally so fractious and partisan, is mostly only intermittently aware of the Deep State and when required usually submits to a few well-chosen words from the State’s emissaries.
In an expose titled “Top Secret America,” The Washington Post revealed the private side of this shadow government, made up of 854,000 contract personnel with top-secret clearances, “a number greater than that of top-secret-cleared civilian employees of the government.”
Reporting on the Post’s findings, Lofgren points out:
These contractors now set the political and social tone of Washington, just as they are increasingly setting the direction of the country, but they are doing it quietly, their doings unrecorded in the Congressional Record or the Federal Register, and are rarely subject to congressional hearings…
The Deep State not only holds the nation’s capital in thrall, but it also controls Wall Street (“which supplies the cash that keeps the political machine quiescent and operating as a diversionary marionette theater”) and Silicon Valley.
As Lofgren concludes:
[T]he Deep State is so heavily entrenched, so well protected by surveillance, firepower, money and its ability to co-opt resistance that it is almost impervious to change… If there is anything the Deep State requires it is silent, uninterrupted cash flow and the confidence that things will go on as they have in the past. It is even willing to tolerate a degree of gridlock: Partisan mud wrestling over cultural issues may be a useful distraction from its agenda.
Remember this the next time you find yourselves mesmerized by the antics of the 2016 presidential candidates or drawn into a politicized debate over the machinations of Congress, the president or the judiciary: it’s all intended to distract you from the fact that you have no authority and no rights in the face of the shadow governments.
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No it isn't.
Correct! We are waking up too fast!
And its power is tied to the status of the USD as the WRC.
Besides, worst case scenario is WWIII. In the event of a nuclear holocaust, they won't have the infrastructure to rule, no matter how much planning they have done.
Most of their planning relies on electronics. There databases will be worth squat if an EMP or flare takes out the system.
They can talk to themselves all they want on their hardened systems but orders will need to get out to the field.
Further proving that ZH is merely an intelligence front now.
This article is basically telling us that there is no hope, and that the deep state, which is really just the communists conspiring together, is never going away. Typical Communist dogmatic propaganda.
Just trying to imagine why any Nationalist would want any of this intelligence monster in their country. They wouldn't. Only a leftist would fear the public enough to want something like this. I am sure by now they figured out that their plans will not work, so they try to convince everyone that they have to give in because they can't win. It's complete bullshit obviously.
Also, Goebbels hasn't got shit on me. and Bagdad Bob was a farce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9P_2HqWRhU
Further proving that ZH is merely an intelligence front now.
I understand your point of view, but, selective 'reporting' [click for profit] does not necessarily make ZH merely an intelligence front.
Correct.
Which media venue unapologetically presents an RT article right alongside a Fox article? A Rutherford Institute article alongside a HuffPo piece?
I would submit it's ZH.
"Referred to by the code name Main Core, this database reportedly contains the names of millions of Americans who, “often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. The database can identify and locate perceived ‘enemies of the state’ almost instantaneously.”
I know I'm on that list, come friends, join me on that list. You cannot be, by definition, a true American without being on that list ;-)
My guess is that if you comment on ZH, you're already on that list.
Let's meet up in the camp. I'll be the guy living outside the huts because of my snoring.
I'm not going out like that. Crank the Cypress Hill, rack the slides, power up the electronic detonators, and let's get it on. My team is good for a platoon with an armored detachment, and well take prisoners . . . striaight to the belt sanding and chainsaw stations. Vita portior libertas.
I like the giant hole in the ground meme. Like being stuck in a wallmart with an HOA, school board, dmv, and courts.
News flash, maybe we aren't jealous of your obsession with survival?
These places will be giant, stinky tombs staffed by 5% of planned people. There will be obedience in there though.
Come on people, live free and leave the holes for the rats.
pods
Exactly. Blind obedience doesn't make one an American, in fact quite the opposite ;-)
Libertatem non possunt iuxta tyrannidem!
Yep, private institutions (capital) controlling the government is communism (/zarc).
It’s futile to have these kinds of posts on ZH – the ZH-crowd is predominantly indoctrinated right-wingers who see everything they don’t like (as they have been thought by their corporate masters) as communism/stateism. It’s a farce. I’m far from a communist – and more ‘FREEDOM/LIBERTY’- (again, empty slogans for most ZH’ers) oriented than any on this site – but I know what communism is. What’s going on in US is nothing resembling communism – it’s fascism. The merging of corporate and state power – and the former being in control of the latter. Fascism have always been supported and promoted by strong capital power (i.e. by capitalists).
And don’t waste your time replying with all the nonsense about progressivism, socialism, stateism, communism, fascism etc. etc. all being the same thing – it just proves my point. You’re clueless. Start getting educated – and no, not through any US-based universities (they’ll just approve of your world-view) and not through the first 10+ pages on Google (that’s almost always pure corporate BS).
+100. My understanding is the libertarian nature of most comments began to be diluted by people following links from Breitbart and Drudge. Some paleocons but an unhealthy dose of Fox News low info types who blame all the problems in the world on a term of opprobrium they are too obtuse to know they misuse.
And that is more liberty v statism than L/R or Red/Blue escapes them. As does any evidence of libertarian thinking.. Jmo.
The ZHers may not cogently articulate the 'what' they are deeply uncomfortable with, but the mere fact there are so many who believe our nation is fucked beyond repair should send chills thru anyone sitting in a .govnor position of significant responsibility. If our enemy is a group of global corporations, then there is an effective way to fight them: impose financial losses on them.
He knows what Communism is...wink, wink.
Yep, I do.
Communism is an ideology. Communism differ from capitalism specific in relation to the ownership of the means of production. In a communist society the economy is structured on the ‘common ownership of the means of production’ – unlike a capitalistic/fascistic economy that is based on the private ownership of the means of production (like having 0,01% owning everything = how the US economy is ‘structured’ today).
Interestingly the goal of communism is a stateless society – the state is in communism (in theory) just a vehicle to make a transition form the capitalistic economy to the communistic economy. The ‘revolutionary vanguard’ of communism have historically had this as a goal: the capture of the capitalist state in order to use the state apparatus/institutions to create the transition to communism. Obviously this never works – the communists who take the power gets corrupted by the same power and the state never ‘withers away’.
Anarchist communists have a more interestingly approach to how communism could be achieved – but that’s a different topic.
Yeah most of us are right wingers if by that you mean SMALL GOVERNMENT.
I don't care what 'ism you call giant tyrannical government, it's end goal and effect on the populus is the same. Does it really matter if you're rounded up and murdered by a communist or a facist?
You're dead either way, who cares which side of the coin they prefer?
TPTB does – they fear the left-wing and support the right-wing.
“Libertarianism” in US is a corporate propaganda success – a text-book example of controlled opposition: http://www.alternet.org/visions/true-history-libertarianism-america-phony-ideology-promote-corporate-agenda
Real libertarianism actually gives good ideas to how society could be a better, more just, free, productive and compassionate place to live. But those ideas are not even discussed – the agenda is successfully controlled by the corporate oligarchy (including the false version of libertarianism).
I totally agree with you on true Libertarianism, I'm just saying that the false left/right paradigm and the misunderstanding of it causes more problems for us.
Left/Right used to mean big government vs small government. Now, society in general seems to accept it as one form of tyrannical government vs another form of tyrannical government. Similar to how Liberal used to mean what Libertarian now means.
The proper wording is important precisely because the tyrants and their minions play games and constantly attempt to distort the socially accepted meanings of such words to sow confusion and derail any meaningful conversation before it gets off the ground.
Two people engaged in discourse about a specific topic cannot even begin to debate it if they have different definitions of what the topic itself is, and may not even realise that the other side has a different definition due to the constantly changing social view of it.
TLDR: Right wing does/should mean small government. We should not let TPTB change the definition to mean tyrannical government of X, Y, or Z flavor.
Small government is just the early stage of development of large government. Being for small government is like being for small cancer.
Cosmic boogeyman bullshit. Next.
"Communism" a label that was applied to "governments" that ruled countries that could not be corrupted by western power groups.
Money comes and goes. Power is derived from obedience.
The Deep State is the greatest ally of free people, for it cannot, thus will not continue. The rebuilding from the resulting rubble is what matters.
The Deep State is completely illegitimate. It consists of psychopaths. If that many psychopaths are threatened in any way, they will split up among themselves and conspire to seize power by turning on the others in a psycho turf war. They won't think twice to eliminate their best friends if it means they keep a grip on power.
True, they know this and they know the word is spreading: The Emporer Has No Clothes.
Unanswered in Whitehead's article is what if the persons planning the attacks on America are also the persons in charge of the "Deep State." Talk about hedging your bets. After all, when the Bushes were presidents and locking everyone up for drug dealing, their accomplices (including Jeb Bush, a drug dealer already when he was in high school) were in charge of bringing in massive quantities of amphetamines into the USA from the Bush's drug labs in South America.
what if the persons planning the attacks on America are also the persons in charge of the "Deep State."
There was once a movie I watched, that detailed your exact scenario. Unfortunatly I cannot remember its name but it did involve a nuclear devices
Could it have been a TV show?
The Lone Gunmen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Gunmen_(TV_series)#Episodes
While The Lone Gunmen are thwarted in their attempt to steal a computer chip by Yves Adele Harlow, John Fitzgerald Byers receives news of his father's death and the trio soon find themselves unravelling a government conspiracy concerning an attempt to fly a commercial aircraft into the Twin Towers, with increased arms sales for the United States as an intended result.
Hello. The same people who make up the "deep state" are the same ones who carried out 911.
Why does the author call Hillary a "he"? Is he trying to imply something?
At least three are at war with each other
Most can't handle this much truth. The thot crosses their mind that nobody is going to save them, Trump, Ron Paul, or anyone else. Too much to take for most, so denial ensues.
"These contractors now set the political and social tone of Washington, just as they are increasingly setting the direction of the country, but they are doing it quietly, their doings unrecorded in the Congressional Record or the Federal Register, and are rarely subject to congressional hearings… "
...& yet one is reflexively accused of harboring outlandish conspiracy theories and of dangerous paranoia to assert any such thing in public.
Illuminati?
Free Masons and Knights Templar?
Fascist Shadow Govt'?
Dual Passport Red Shield Operatives?
Old Aristocracy cum modern shell corporation cloaked Oligarchy?
Does the manner(s) in which these feudalist power mongering bureucracies might be organized matter or is their existance and their expropriation of resources and power significant in and of itself?
thanks for update..
Do you know that it's over for you?
15 Years ago something like this article would have scared the hell out of me.
Now I just laugh.
Too late guys, ITS FUCKING OVER FOR YOU. All the wealth's gone, you fucking blew it. You traded real capital-producing wealth for digits and bits of paper, and sent the real economic power overseas. We also know the gold is gone, and that you can't fucking print food to feed your merc armies families, it's fucking OVER.
Of course many will still die as the beast lashes out in it's death tantrum. We still have to play out this last dance as if we don't already know the outcome.
people seem to survive on the continent of Africa and it is apparently hell, just gotta toughen the fuck up, do some push ups, squats, start running, stop fuckin' whining.
The muscle brings an appetite, like 6-8,000 calories a day. Better off leaning out..
8k calories a day?
You cannot burn that much energy when you are spending your entire day eating.
I have a hummingbird on crack metabolism, and I find it hard to function and choke down 4k a day.
pods
I will say that after nearly every Repub candidate (sans Kasich & Bush, two bankers) railroaded the Fed Res, there is no way they let the markets crash until after the 2016 election.
In the event of a nuclear exchange all these bunker sites would receive a ground burst. No COG for you.
5 meg ground burst keep digging bitches..
Anyone that uses the term "Phantom Menace", in the first two paragraphs of an financial article is either Chinese, or Childish.
You are my meat.
--Darth Maul
Most of the population of the US will soon be like deer caught in headlights.
*snicker* He?
The next president will be Huma Abedin, with her "mommy" Hillary as her voicepiece, because the proles aren't ready for an openly Muslim president.
Now that's settled:
Who the fuck are they trying to kid? This is security theatre of biblical proportions.
A nuclear strike on anybody in a position to respond in kind (and not a false flag---Hillary nuking Little Rock out of spite and blaming Putin, say) would be the undoing of mankind. Even assuming some plants worth eating aren't driven into extinction by nuclear winter, your only realistic chance of survival is a hermetically sealed, lead-lined bunker deep underground stocked with enough food, water and energy to last a hundred years, because it won't be safe to come out for at least that long.
Mount Weather isn't a shelter. It's a mass grave.
As so often, the Israelis are more clear-sighted than we are. They know nuclear war would be the undoing of the Jews. Their priority is seeing to it the Philistines die with them.
As I recall it was the Jews (Israelites) who went about the area of Palestine murdering and genociding first, no?
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+7
And later ethnically cleansed 750k natives, destroying around 400 long standing villages claiming divine and exclusive right to 'Israel' while still mostly living outside it - correct?
And killing millions of innocent people far removed from any theoretical existential attack on Israel is justified why, exactly?
Is it because under Orthodox, fundamentalist Judaism only Jews are human?
http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/shahak.html
http://www.alternet.org/story/148016/how_to_kill_goyim_and_influence_peo...'s_shocking_religious_defense_of_killing_non-jews_(with_video)
It is difficult to read the Torah and not come away with the distinct impression that the racism and supremacism and xenophobia within has contributed to the feeling of some that religious Zionists are clear sighted only as to the speck of dust in the eyes of the 'Philistines.'
No?
http://thepassionateattachment.com/2013/06/17/when-israel-is-mighty/
It's funny, but I was talking to an orthodox rabbi a few weeks ago, and he said that the vast majority of Jews are not even Jews because they fail to uphold the Levitican dietary and other laws of the Torah. He was kind of a 1%-er, so to speak. I guess everybody thinks they're special, no exceptions.
...I do not think there is such a thing as a deep state intended as a structured organization acting with an hunanimous programme. I see just a bunch of powerful individuals acting in sync because they are motivated by the same greed and lust for more power without however being assimilated into an organic structure per se.
What worries me the most, is that they seem to lack brain and a viable long term planning. Pretty much like farmers that instead of keeping their cows alive to get milk and cheese, eventually making them mate and reproduce... they just kill it to have a good steak today, moving then to find another one for tomorrow, in a predatory but highly uncostructive way. This worries me much because it presents no future.
Leadership should be a selective process, bringing to the top... the best. Something got broken, evidently...
Focus on the things that you have control of.
You refuse to allow the outcome of any decision that you make to be affected by anyone now, or in the future.
You dictate the decisions, and control your destiny.
I like the attitude...
;-)
Are you female? I don't mean that as an insult.
I think that those who seek control (of others) invite a great deal of aggravation upon themselves, so much so that even they must at some point pause and question the sanity of it. Personally, I believe it stems from insecurity and these people should be pitied, because let's face it, no one gets out of here alive, not in this physical sense at least.
You're probably right, but Stalin had a lot of insecurities too, but he killed a huge number of people nevertheless. These folks may be psychotic, psychopathic, or maybe just type A, over-caffeinated, testosterone-drenched automaton assholes, but they will still try to hurt you and otherwise ruin your life.
I choose dark underwear for the obvious reason.
I'm not too sure how that resolves any issues of the Deep State.
I choose white underwear because I want to know exactly what I have or don't have. :)
Great observation. On a macro-level, an amorphous structure held together by meme rather than a definitive chain of command?
Many people on Earth believe atomic arms to be the major danger, but it is not so. The greatest danger concerns materialism and pollution. The people of our planet only seek money - to some its a means of attaining power; to others its a means to acquire drugs, (another curse) yet to others, its a way of possessing more than their neighbors possess.
If a businessman owns a large store he then wants a second, then a third. If he commands a small empire, he wants to increase it. If an ordinary man owns a house in which he could live happily with his family, he wants a larger one or to own a second one, then a third...Why this folly? Besides, a man will die and have to abandon all he has amassed. Perhaps his children will squander his legacy and his grandchildren will live in poverty? His whole life will have been preoccupied with purely material concerns, with insufficient time allowed for matters of the spirit. Mankind exists physically for the sole purpose of advancing spiritually. Others with money turn to drugs in their endeavour to procure an artificial paradise and these people pay more dearly than do the others.
In other words our current technology, which is nothing compared with what existed on Earth more than 14,500 years ago, is dragging our civilisation down, and pushing it closer and closer to moral and spiritual catastrophe.
There are others that are aware of what TPTB and The Grey Race who hatch plans together have for humanity. The subjegation can only last so long but they wont do our homework or fight our battle against the Greys or the Sinister Secret Human Government. The Angelic Race isn't here to feed the meal on the plate. We must band together against TPTB, there is only 1,000 of them at the upper echelon and 7 billion of us. Yet we allow them to lead us to the slaughterhouse. They fear us.
Poor people love that 'spirituality' business just as much as they love those Robin Hood stories.
They're enamored with that Hope and Change conversation even though deep down they know is just a load of gas.
Greys? At least it's more original than plotting Jews that have been working in secret since that unfortunate Babylonian camping hike.
+ points for some originality.
America's Deep State: Foreign Agents, Lobbyists, Corporations, Military-In
"In the period between the end of World War Two and Marshall's meeting with Truman [May 12, 1948], the Joint Chiefs of Staff had issued no less than sixteen (by my count) papers on the Palestine issue. The most important of these was issued on March 31, 1948 and entitled "Force Requirements for Palestine." In that paper, the JCS predicted that "the Zionist strategy will seek to involve [the United States] in a continuously widening and deepening series of operations intended to secure maximum Jewish objectives." The JCS speculated that these objectives included: initial Jewish sovereignty over a portion of Palestine, acceptance by the great powers of the right to unlimited immigration, the extension of Jewish sovereignty over all of Palestine and the expansion of "Eretz Israel" into Transjordan and into portions of Lebanon and Syria.This was not the only time the JCS expressed this worry. In late 1947, the JCS had written that "A decision to partition Palestine, if the decision were supported by the United States, would prejudice United States strategic interests in the Near and Middle East" to the point that "United States influence in the area would be curtailed to that which could be maintained by military force." That is to say, the concern of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was not with the security of Israel- but with the security of American lives." Philip Weiss
http://www.pravdareport.com/opinion/columnists/05-08-2014/128217-deep_st...
Cf. http://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-...
With advances in electronic surveyance, it has become easier to spy on the people holding key positions (judges, lawmakers, etc) of power. Whoever control that information also control those man. This make it way easier to either blackmail them or make them the right offer. I thus don't think there is anyway to fight them using the actual system unless some miraculous rightous man suddently pop up.
Revolution might be the only answer. People are not desesparate enough for it to happen right now but I think It is coming.
Be brave, and call it what it is..... Jews have hijacked the government for the benefit of themselves and Israel.
yup and they hide information like this so you dont know the truth of human origins...
http://theyoungearth.org/2015/10/16/t-rex-soft-tissue-find-of-the-century/
Zionists, not "Jews." Lots of non-Jews are also Zionists. Many Jews are not Zionists. Otherwise I agree with you, but could not give you a red or a green. Carry on.
I disagree.
People have been chasing Jews, not Zionists from their countries for the past two thousand years.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm
Jews are a self serving tribe that believes they are better than you, above doing manual labour, and spilling your blood or driving the world to war for profit is not beneath them.
A monster is a monster, so lets not be afraid to call it what it is.
Why did the Jews give Egypt 1.3 billion in military aid this year?
The more prepared the elite are for nuclear war the more likely they are to have one.
As if anyone else matters.
Potential problem ..... they save the political, financial and business elite along with an army of advisers.
They then discover there is no one to actually do any real work.
There isn't always a skeptic in the room Thanks.
(Security, remove this guy.)
A retired COL called me yesterday for my take about the missile flights near CA. I told him to go read the publicly-available documents from groups like Rand, CFR, etc. I have weaned him off of CNN, but he still likes Fox. He is open to reason, however.
Yes, there are quite a few "neocons" who think we can win a nuclear war with Russia and/or China. I predict they will make this move within the next 30 months. I hope I am wrong and it does not happen.
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Hitlery will be the next "president." She will run to take their orders (and contributions to her "foundation."
Whitehead, I'm simply going to suggest your sources are not as good as mine ..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/10/divided-loyalties-inside-the-pen...
Do you have anything more constructive to offer? Or has fear just paralyzed you?
ZH, as an alternative to the constant fear porn, why cannot you offer your audience something more on the order of this?
Hmmmmh....?
There are no government solutions or solutions for central government, other than allowing it to self destruct. All you can really do is prepare for the nearing, inevitable collapse and educate yourself about the fact that central governments are unnecessary and always become evil parasites upon their host societies.
For more on this, see my other comment a few minutes ago
Here we go again... more loose talk about Martial Law.
For the last goddamn time, genuine Martial Law can only be declared by the military when the civilvian government abdicates or has been overthrown.
It ain't Marital Law if the goddamned civilian government is still in power!
What is "genuine Martial Law" ? I am convinced the version where the Man with the Gun tells the Man Without A Gun to do what he says is the real McCoy
COG has been in effect since 9/11 and remains that way.
If enough people can get their heads around a few simple facts before the nearing collapse of the evil US empire, then we will have a very rare opportunity for mankind. An active and vocal minority need to understand that the collapse, and and the enormous human catastrophy that follows, will be because of what the parasitic state did to consume society's productive capacity (real capital), destroy the money (medium of exchange needed for an economy to operate) and critically weaken morals of people (to be more to the liking of the evil state). The most severe experience of misery in human history will NOT be because of the absense of the state, but instead, because of was allowed to exist at all.
Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness... To SECURE (not grant or limit) these rights, governments are instituted AMONG men (not over them). The instant any such government goes any further than to "secure these rights", it immediately violates them and becomes an evil parasite, which will then want to grow until it consumes its host society. Government at the most local level, if even that, is all that's needed to "secure these rights" and is all that can realistically exist without violating "these rights". We don't need the state or any form of government beyond, possibly, the most local level.
If enough of an active and vocal minority, among those who survive the collapse, understand this simple message, then maybe we can prevent continuity of government from succeeding and achieve true liberty.
The best thing I've read to learn more about the idea of a stateless society is "For A New Liberty" by Murray N. Rothbard (1978) is a great place to start. The book is available for free download of 15-hour LvMI audio or free 329-page text download from the Mises Institute,
What you suggest is the next evolution above the Constitution, or better, the natural growth of its potential to realize a much smaller government. I suspect the Founders hoped it would play out into a more local-level thing.
Of course, there were Founders like Hamilton who thought a strong central government better. This argument goes back to our actual Foundation as a Republic and continues to this day. This is one thing I think Washington, Franklin, and Jefferson would approve of, the fact we are still arguing over this issue. As a Last Resort, we may have to use the Amendment they provided us wiith to restore the base.
Hamilton was a Rothschild agent, as is "Freemasonry's" gathering of "under control" sex perverts like J. Edgar Hoover, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.
Your ignorance of history is overwhelming.
Anyone who doubts Hamilton's patriot credentials is an utter nitwit. Hamilton understood the crisis that the Continental dollar left the new Confederation of States, in name only, with millions in debt and a worthless script that nobody would accept as payment.
Without his tireless efforts to convince wealthy citizens to back a US Bank to make repayments to lenders of the nascent United States, there would never had been a US beyond some words on paper.
Nobody does business or makes contracts with a deadbeat debtor with a pocket full of useless paper.
You have to dig deep to find a reality in history that isn't colored by a modern interpretation of what actually transpired. Hamilton was a young self taught lawyer and banker who was desperately needed when his new country was being born and used all of his enormous talents to cajole and convince those with money to back what was by all reckoning, a most financially hopeless proposition that even many in the Continental Assembly were against.
The new United States kept it's word and paid back it's debts and a Dollar was born that had confidence that it was backed by the wealth of a new nation. The new National Bank was Govt. owned, a fact often overlooked by many and, if I remember correctly, he wrote over half of the articles in the Federalist Papers which is the basis of our interpretation of the Constitution itself.
As the reverse is true, the fathers should not be cursed by the sins of their sons.
I upvoted you, with a caveat. While Hamilton's system enabled the emergence of a US from its nascent state, it became 'Rosemary's Baby.' I would submit that virtually every evil emitted by this government derives from its ability to borrow money. With the ability to tax, there should be no need to borrow. The facility to borrow has enabled every war, every megalomaniacal empire-building endeavor, every culture-destroying welfare program, every wasteful boondoggle, and has fueled the corruption permeating our political system. It has enriched the few, impoverished the many, enslaved and indebted our posterity, destroyed our optimism, and cast a leaden pall over our future. Whatever emerges from our inevitable collapse, the govt's. ability to borrow should not survive.
We need to cut the head off this snake.
It is a Hydra. You will need a sharp sword, or many swordsmen.
The Deep State is still vulnerable to a dollar collapse and the emergence of gold as the new genuine money.
Gold is Kryptonite to the Deep State and their paper dollar. Thier days are numbered.
Governments are top-of-the-food-chain predators. They will always find and absorb resources to preserve power, whatever the costs, and whatever the level of misery inflicted on their populations. See N. Korea, Sadam Hussein, Syria, Venezuela, et al. The US is no different.
The gvt has nothing to fear, but fear itsself, fear this gvt bitches!!
the "greatest danger" to the planets are the sociopsychopaths that created this mess
There is an illusion of control that can bring on serious consequences for small groups and individuals that manage to garnish the attention of the deep state. Nevertheless, the march of entropy is relentless. The deep state just like the rest of the system is built on a concept of perpetual growth. Now that we have reached the end of growth, the system will either all at once or by increments shed complexity.
The code enforcement fascists will stop making their rounds the very moment their department is down sized.
A TS for contractor personnel is not the same, except in a few areas, as a TS for Civil Service personnel.
The TS world is very compartmentalized. The 800+-thousand figure is a bit misleading.
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I am making my way through Talbot's book, The Devil's Chessboard, which I continue to suggest to ZH readers. I have already concluded Allen Dulles was a psycho. John Foster, his brother, was not as bad. He did share his brother's political fear of the Soviets. Nevertheless, they steadily began to build up the Deep State with Ratline escapees from NAZI Germany.
Allen only cared about you if you could help him. John would quickly aid family members but had a very pious nature. Allen's downfall was the Bay of Pigs; JFKs downfall was his refusal to back Allen's plan by ordering the armed forces to back up the CIA-staged invasion. The only time Allen showed any emotion was once with a reporter about JFK. It was basically, "that %$*&^%$!" Shortly thereafter, JFK met an untimely end. Coincidence? Perhaps that marked the permanent rise of the Deep State.
Despite the Allies' unconditional surrender plan vs. Germany, Allen betrayed FDR and his country by negotiating a separate surrender by the Italians. It was never revealed in its day.
Now the book is moving on to more events after WW2. It gets even more revealing as I go towards how we got to where we are now. I am convinced that any ZHer who reads this tome will find, as I am finding, holes of vulnerability with which such an organization could be neutralized in times of disorder and the Constitution restored.
I think the Deep State does not understand the vast number of US citizens who were trained by the armed forces who have taken the red pill. I suspect the Deep State by the nature of the legacy of Allen Dulles, has succumbed to Hubris, arrogance, overreach. I am afraid in the not so distant future they will discover many do not wish to play "Deep State." They prefer Freedom.
With Auschwitz steelworks and labor camp-builder Knight of Malta Prescott Bush, Dulles brothers were money conduits to Rome's catspaw Hitler and Zio-Nazism in Europe. Though Presbyterians, one of their sons became cardinal-in-charge at Rome's "West Point of the FBI," Fordham Univ.
"The real Ant-Christ" "engine for enslaving mankind" our prophet and founder, Mr. Jefferson identified, which before committing the Vatican banker "Rothschild Jews'" Holodomor and Holohoax ran "the Wall Street of slavery" at Rome for over 2,000 years - administered by the same false-Jew Khazar Christ-killers who had previously impaled tens of thousands of Christs and Immanuel, God Incarnate, under contract for gold to Roman law courts for twice denying Caesar was the Creator of the universe - yet proves "Whig Interpretation of History" to be valid.
"Whig" means "anti-Roman Catholic" and our Founders were Black and White self-identified "whigs."
When Veteran and Patriot JFK ended Rome's Rothschild FedScam and ordered our military withdrawal as papal catspaw from Rome's latifundial estate of Vietnam, where the five percent ruling colonial Roman Catholic false-elite owned 95% of the wealth, the Knight of Malta-led Roman Catholic CIA killed him under the field supervision of "controlled" sex perverts Richard Nixon and GHW Bush, to the furtherance of controlled sex pervert LBJ, whose impeachment proceedings on Capitol Hill ended upon the news from Dallas.
Death for Treason - Justice for John and Martin, and Pat Tillman, and for our dead of Vietnam, 9/11, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
All sworn to The Oath, before God our Sovereign alone, on our lives must seek Truth and Justice in Our Land: Death for Treason - Justice for John and Martin, and Pat Tillman, and for our dead of Vietnam, 9/11, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
"Munchkins, look at this survey! Large numbers of current and former military actually believe in their Oaths to protect their country!"
"Well, Reggie, that is why I have enlarged the DHS."
"But the survey also says half the number of them also think their Oath is binding."
"Dammit! Now I have to ask Congress for funding for another Agency!"
"Why not use your phone and pen?"
"I tried to last week. The pen was out of ink and the phone battery was dead. I had to recharge it. Damn, there may be something to that survey."
Is COG part of ZOG - or am I in a fog?
Yes.
Some men (Government of the time) gathered 'round and strung-up the God as he walked the planet.
You think this Shadow Government was created 20 decades ago??
District 13 is alive and well.
This has been a long process we could trace back to 1871, The Maritime Act, and further sealed in 1913 and The Federal Reserve Act and closely followed by the Nazi party infiltrating the US after WWI.
Today Congress's only reason for existence is to give the illusion that there exists some viable Constitution. Given the Republicans dominate the Congress; yet how many bills were sent to Obummer for VETO? None that I am aware of; the two parties are acting as one because they are one with the separation in appearance only that is used to further divide the nation across many unimportant, yet emotionally charged issues.
The Supreme Court is bought and paid for and divisive as they take on issues they should not and are legislating immorality from the bench.
The President is a mere puppet who takes orders or is taken out.
The goal is almost complete as the middle-class will disappear within the next generation and the religion of humanism and naturalism and self takes hold of the hearts and minds of the people who are being fattened, both literally and figuratively for the slaughter.
As bad as it may seem now, the judgment coming is far far worse, for we are a nation of wicked people who have rejected the true Hope, which s Jesus. One needs only to be honest with temselves as the truth is self evident, for only the man and God know the intent of the heart and He says there is not one who does good, not even one.
People hate to even hear the name Jesus, yet most will acknowledge him as a "good person or teacher", but neglect that He is their Creator to their own demise, which lasts forever. An outcome far worse than all the bad things that happen to people in their entire lifetimes. That is a reality most cannot bear to think about, much less to investigate to see if these things are true.
The seemingly want to replace Jesus and the creator ... lol.
It is very curious that this process has been many, many generations in creation ... and not only since 1871. In the early 1800s, Benjamin Disraeli referred to the secret government.
Demons/Aliens/Djinn ... whatever ... trapped on this world and controlling it from below... and within (lol). They have tried to hide their own history by removing knowledge from the human domain. They hate us because we can leave.
A. The article must be 1/2 B/S. The reference to 9/11 is a clue. It also has outdated info as a distraction.
B. One wonders what the elitists are so afraid of OR is this their solution for what they consider overpopulation? They will go into the bunkers and cleanse the planet (or so they think)... taking along slaves who they want to believe they are thee lucky ones.
If this is their plan, then they ust not be taking into account the creators and maintainers of this world (who are not the same) and the actual authority they have to enact their plans.
The world is not exactly what it seems. One can only escape when one leaves ... but that is not an option for everyone, is it? (They can checkout any time they want, but they can never leave.) It is ironic that they may (well atually have been for a while now) destroy their own living space and allow others to escape. Maybe it is intntion with ignorance.
While at the surface pundits argue gay rights, minimum wage, Constitutional infractiions of the executive branch or the seemingly inept ability of Congress to do what it is supposed to do (mere distractions of the sheeple) which is represent the "people" and/or do the "peoples" business, some of us watch daily the erosion or blatant disregard for the traditional order of government and instead become the worker bee's that support, in effect the shadow government or "deep state" that operates with impunity in its quest to dominate and enslave the entire world. These psycopaths have been around for centuries and the process has been ongoing for that long as well.
The new order that is rearing its ugly head is that we here in the US, flag waving fourth of July patriots imbued with the history of uniqeness of this country from the founding fathers, wars of liberation and division to promote and sustain what was once the quest of individual vs the state, states rights vs central government, and individual freedoms as granted by the Bill of Rights and Constitution now find that we are nothing more than worthless fodder as have been the masses of any from third world nations. The deep state is becoming less deep and citizens are more vulnerable to its whims than ever before.
These changes will become worse as history moves forward. Preparing comes with first, realization and then changing of the paradigm that our education (indoctrination) has programed us with. As an aside, today's indoctrination is 180 degrees opposite from prior generations in the .gov school systems which ultimately pits individuals (generations) against each other and the amazing thing is that the opposite polarities spring from the same source!
Part of the new order here in the US will be the gunning down of anybody anytime based on the whim (training) of law enforcement. "To protect and serve" is becoming "to shoot and kill" and standard operating proceedure after investigation of an incident will be "officers acted properly".
Idaho rancher’s wife: ‘I saw them murder my husband’ | Idaho Statesman
A lot of this is just ordinary government contingency planning safeguarding its grip on power. That's what all governments do out of course. That's not deep state. Deep state is about invisible, high-ranking, unelected agency officials and heavily connected cronyists with no transparency or accountability directing state means to advance their own private agendas.
I don't agree with the premise there is any formal conspiracy or group plans among them. I think these powers behind the scenes act organically and opportunistically with an every-man-for-himself mindset. Like Frank in House of Cards.
I think they are entirely focused on their own fiefdoms, and cooperate with each other only sporadically in purely self-interested, here-and-now ways. Some sort of spotty, half-hearted cooperation you see across mafia gangs that really are only interested in growing their own power, not in grand unifying schemes. Power by nature is fundamentally not about cooperation, but about control.
The good news is the visible, elected officials as a body still control the funding and the legal cover for the shadow government. They afford them the imprimatur of legitimacy in the public's eyes they need to be able to operate. If elected officials en masse chose to pull the plug on their means of power, the shadow government figures would have no recourse and would crumble overnight.
Agree with all except the last paragraph.
Important elected officials don't get elected in the first place-without the imprimatur of the 'Deep State.' It's a closed-loop system.
"The good news is the visible, elected officials as a body still control the funding and the legal cover for the shadow government."
Most of the deep state funding is the result of drug trafficking and money laundering through international banks. The CIA hasn't relied on Government funding since the early 1970s and possibly as far back as the 1940s when Claire Chanault engaged in the Asian drug trafficking operation for what was the OSS, CIA's predecessor.
A 16 acre underground shelter with thousands of two legged moles in it will require the logistical support of a surface city many times that size. When the moles crawl out of their poisoned hole they will be picked-off by survivors on the surface who have usable survival skills.
Zardoz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbGVIdA3dx0
They'll rule until there's nothing left to rule.
Patrick Wood explains this in "Technocracy Rising - the Trojan Horse of Global Transformation" a little differently. With the creation of the Peak Oil Myth, M. King Hubbert and his friends started a plan to change the world's currency into a "smart" system of energy consumed/produced exchange. That's why you now have credit ratings, smart meters on you home, smart phones, credit cards (instead of money), etc.
The government's authority is being surplanted by agencies. Look at how they used 9-11 to group the CIA, the FBI and the other "security" agencies along with the US Treasury under the Homeland Security Agency.
David Winkler at Project New America was recently on CSPAN promoting these ideas through a website named SensibleSafeguards.org. His idea was that government doesn't work. We need agencies to protect us.
Patrick Wood has lots of great interviews on youtube.
"Methinks that when a pope excommunicates his entire congregation, he rather excommunicates himself." (paraphrasing)
-Thomas Hobbes
The ultimate power is there being nobody left to dominate. When the elite build bunkers, it seems to me that they are building prisons with golden bars for themselves. Block their exits (and ventilation shafts) and we will be free of them... if we can survive their disaster scenarios.
Let the troglodytes go where they will. Only when they are gone will there be a chance of peace.
How do I sign up to be one of the "potentially suspect" Americans who will be fed and kept warm, er I mean detained, during an apocalypse?
Simple - just upvote Shovelhead at every opportunity. The 'State' will find you.
Thought experiment:
What would really happen if the Deep State gave orders and nobody complied? Fuck off, No.
Would it still be a force? What would it control? Could it arrest and confine everyone? Half of the population? A quarter?
Would you retain or dismiss your local police chief if he followed the dictates of a illegal Govt.? How about your state legislatures commanding your National Guard units?
In the end, all politics are local. Would you sit by and watch your neighbors and friends be rounded up? Who would control your area or region? Would it be you and yours or someone in a distant state in a bunker?
Just a thought.
A bunch of fear porn fappers I tell ya! All of ya...
I remember history.
There are always great thinkers, Who had great plans and build great structures.
But ultimately people survive, all the great structures become great wonders.
That's exactly what will happen to both the shadow governments.
Need fear no evil.
yep..... and every ablebodied person should seal the entrances so these human vermin dont ever get out.....
A FRESH BEGINNING
is what's needed
Deep state == cabal banksters & corporations who are controlling CIA, FBI, Police, MPs, US Prez, Fed, IMF, World Bank, Hollywood, media, mpaa etc with the aim to loot the whole world with their financial nuclear weapon (debt)