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Did Someone Try To Sabotage Russia's North Stream Gas Pipeline With An Underwater Drone
When last we visited the Nord Stream pipeline story we noted that the prospect of doubling the line’s capacity in conjunction with Western O&G companies was effectively allowing Moscow to adopt a hardline approach in talks with Ankara.
Turkish autocrat President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is keen on seeing Syria’s Bashar al-Assad pushed aside and, as everyone who doesn’t live in a cave knows, Russia and Iran are keen on preserving the Assad government. This makes for a rather awkward scenario. Ankara and Moscow have established deep trade ties and when Russian jets venture into Turkish airspace whilst attempting to bomb some of the very same militants Turkey has supported, the relationship becomes strained. That goes double when Turkey shoots down Russian drones.
Now obviously, there are very real questions about whether Erdogan can support Ankara’s assertion that Turkey can survive without Russian gas. The idea that either Russia or Turkey would jeopardize the Turkish Stream based on differences of opinion about the President of Syria is to a certain extent absurd (although what happens to that President may shape the future of energy transports from the Mid-East to Europe), but whatever the case, the Nord Stream has become key for the Russians and as we documented in the hilarious "They're Making Idiots Of Us!": Eastern Europe Furious At West For Doing Gas Deals With Russian Devils,” Ukraine and Slovakia aren’t pleased with Moscow’s memorandum of intent with Shell, E.On and OMV.
Here’s a look at the Nord Stream:
Well, in what certainly may be a coincidence but in what also looks remarkably suspicious given the current geopolitcal circumstances, an underwater drone "rigged with explosives" (to quote RT) was spotted near the Nord Stream by Sweden. Here's more:
An unmanned military underwater vehicle rigged with explosives was spotted on the seabed in the vicinity of the Nord Stream gas pipeline in the Baltics on Friday, Swedish media report. The device is expected to be disarmed on November 9.
An abandoned expendable remotely-operated mine clearance underwater vehicle allegedly with explosives onboard has been detected in multinational waters of the Baltic Sea by the Swedish Navy, Svenska Daglabet reports.
The discovery was made during a routine check of the Nord Stream pipeline. Since it was discovered in the Swedish economic zone, north of the island of Gotland, the Nord Stream pipeline operator immediately notified the Swedish military.
The type of ROV (remote operated vehicle) found near Gotland is typically used to disarm big unremovable munitions found on seabed, as the drone is blown up along with the dangerous object.
The national identity of the drone has not been verified so far, as many countries use UUVs of a similar construction, Stolpe said.
So, here's a drone equipped with explosives that shows up near the Nord Stream just as the expansion of the pipeline's capacity threatens Ukraine and Slovakia and gives Russia negotiating leverage with Ankara in the middle of war in a country that shares a border with Turkey.
Maybe it's nothing, but bear in mind this is Russia's go-to pipeline at this juncture and since no one seems to want to come forward and claim they own the drone, one is certaily left to wonder if this could possibly have been an attempt at sabotage.
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"Someone"
Mommas don't let your babies grow up to be drone operators
Let me guess. It was made by the same contractors who brought us the smashingly successful F35 and only cost the taxpayer 50 million apiece...
Read again, it isn't a drone.
It's a trencher that has been modified for mine clearance work.
The fact is has explosives on board is far more likely down to the fact it was deployed to sweep a mine (which it probably did). And also notice that it is expendable.
My guess is this thing is 25 years old, and was deployed in early 90's to destroy a mine. It collected the munition but couldn't detonate it and so was left in situ.
The End.
Let's hope that is the official story...
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Surely not. Who would possibly do such a thing?
First question, as always "Cui Bono"?...and don't call me Shirley.
Exactly what does a drone loaded with explosives look like? Does it look like one of thos Hollywood bombs with big LED digits and a red and green wire? I find the whole thing a bit fishy.
Joos*
America ruins the world to rule it.
''If we cant have it, nobody can''
Happens all the time.
May 2014 A Canadian explosive ordnance disposal team detonates a World War II German naval mine after safely removing it from the wreck of a German minelayer worked by them and U.S. Navy Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit (EODMU) 8. The teams were participating in Open Spirit, a multinational operation that disposes of mines and other ordnance remaining on the seabed from World War I and World War II to reduce the risk to navigation, fishing and to the environment in the Baltic Sea.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Explosion_of_WWII_mine_in_the_Ba...
You dont want one of those going off aywhere near a gas pipeline. It would be standard practice to make sure the bed is clear before installation.
Shit happens. Not everything is a crypto-American/Zionist conspiracy.
your guess is wrong Occident Mortal but it's interesting that you float that particular story ( and ZH is bit behind with this news )
Who puts mines near a gas line?
WWI and WWII.
The people who planned those wars knew the Russians would plan to install a gas pipeline through the baltic, so it was just prudent forward planning. (/sarc I suppose)
Cracka please....that area is monitored;do you think that the crew that found it was just out fucking off? My guess is it was left there to be found and worry some folks.
then the first thing you would have to demand is an explaination as to how the hell did the engineers, surveyors, and builders miss an explosive laden obstacle while constructing the line, and then how the pipeline inspectors missed it during their previous inspections. I'm sure everyone involved is covered by plenty of documentation
spin fail.
Never ye mind there have been multiple pipeline inspections over the course of your hypothetical 25 years with this thing being undetected...but hey Santa Claus is real too.
So they somehow thought they would take out a gas line while bringing millions of warm weather people into the region at the same time.
They aren't very bright, or they want there to be frozen Muzzies in Europe...
Or they want riots...
Destroy the homes. Control the food, water, and gas. Force people of differing ethnicities and religions into enclosed spaces to destroy sovereignty and nationality. Apply the pressure in every way possible, hopefully inciting rebellion, race wars, and religious intolerance in order to split the people and keep them from acting against those who put them in that situation in the first place. When a 'quota' of deaths has been realized, offer to alleviate the situation - but only on THEIR terms, which will be stifling.
The plan seems to be going well. Cutting the gas will make it go even better, and faster.
FUCK THESE GODDAMMNED PSYCHOPATHS
You wish the POS F-35 costs that little. They cost closer to about $300 million when all is said and done (search youtube for Pierre Sprey F-35 - he has the numbers).
My guess is the number being built by the allies will keep dropping raising the price even more. No one wants that junk.
Mate that F-35 is going rock your world when it comes into service.
No other mass built aircraft has the capability to go into an IADS and knock out equipment without losing 90% of your first attack wave.
F-22 is useless in ground attack can only drop JDAM and SDB.
You need stand off munitions that only the F-35 can deploy.
Turkey will be providing heavy maintenance to all Euro F-35s and I'm proud we won the contract.
Excellent ground attack aircraft and with advanced AA missiles can take out any fighter in service. You can't out turn an AIM-9X Block II and can't 'outrun' an AIM-120D or Meteor.
Someone not the US ;)
It could be anybody really. Who hasn't got a drone sub these days that can dive 300 to 600 meters and do sabotage missions?
I bet you can make one yourself with a small budget of a million or 2 or 3 and a small crew of electricians, robotic engineers, communication specialists and somebody who knows how to blow stuff up and have access to a shitload of militairy grade explosives...
And all you need is another sub or a boat to bring you there to launch the craft.... and have detailed maps where those pipes are...
Like I said... it could be anybody...
I think this one had something to do with it: https://youtu.be/B8ISzf2pryI
Let's just hope they where'nt that stupid to put their national flag sticker on the bumper and a "IF LOST PLEASE RETURN TO...." tag...
It was the red headed carrot top looking prof from MU fame.
US has been foiled again...
it would be so much easier if they hadn't outsourced the drone's programming to Belarus
Could be for peaceful intentions. The US regularly bombs countries for peace so why not pipelines?
Maybe they thought they needed to bring some democracy to that under water pipeline?
A Kraken would have been much more authoritative.
They could find a Kraken, only a Crack Whore.
Maybe it's the old lay a brick on the windshield of the car with the noisy tail pipes at 3 am.. trick, this one is a warning, next time I'm not so gentle
The Matrix has the brick-layer on vid, and is ready to dispatch a killer bot. But we "lost" the vid, cause "toys r us." So it's anybody's guess on the identity of the perp.
i wish Putin would just fuck the US up in more direct fashions...
The US MIC r a bunch of pussys that just cant accept their day is G O N E!
How about Putin dropping a 911 truth bomb and doing a demolition on the offical narrative? He could destroy his supposed foes in an instant. Putin hasn't and never will because he's an oligarch and globalist, some speculate the richest on the planet. Putin is no savior, but I will give him credit for being a master of the game.
So are you saying that the frequent provocations by the West towards Russia are not because of two different ideologies. It's a battle (war?) for who will be the Top Dog oligarch? They're all the same.
G Edward Griffin has talked about this for some time. He argues - quite correctly in my view - that the battle between the political Left and Right is false and it's simply a battle to become the Top Dog. G Edward Griffin:
"How Socialism, Communism, Fascism are All the Same"
The very big problem with this is if it happens, then all will do it. It becomes open season.
Saudi oil rigs, US, ME pipelines etc.
This is why it is never done.
And if it is done annonymously then all such occurences on other countries oil / gas assets similarly attacked can be claimed to be annonymous. The whole energy system global comes under risk.
If it had been successful you can bet some strange terrorist blowing up of Saudi oil wells.
The only country standing to gain from such activity might be Isra-el.
"This is why it is never done."
did you actually type that
Of course we seem to forget the Russians trolling the fiber cable lines in the Atlantic not too long ago.
Maybe a little tit for tat?
that game is old for both sides and has nothing to do with this little adventure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells
Russians trolling the fiber optic cable is minor league stuff compared to NSA sucking up all telecommunications and net info.
Maybe. But it was only several years ago that British spies cut and hacked into a lot of undersea cables carrying Internet data to steal copies of everything passing through. On one occasion they screwed it out in the Eastern Med and brought down the Internet of half of Asia.
These people are out of control.
Rut row
bring it up...lets see who owned it
now now. I'm sure Fedgov has receipts for all of it.
Tit for tat.
They could just cut all the underseas US fiber optic cables.
Businesses are highly dependent on those.
unfortunately, the US and Israel are absolutely determined to start a world war.
https://www.darkmoon.me/2015/russian-plane-crash-was-israel-responsible/
Unless people within those governments arrest the warmongers, and apparently, that aint happening.
Save us, Superman!
Someone will go too far some day, they will succeed in taking down a major Russian project like the pipeline. Then all will plead innocence. Russia will gather intelligence, make their best bet on who did it, and retaliate. The west thinks they can do anything to the Russians, and Putin will surrender, like for over 20 years after the RF was founded. I suspect playing hard ball with Russia right now is a bad idea, terrorism is great fun, until the victim turns back and bitch slaps you with the same medicine.
Someone is looking to start World War III. The signs are all over the place. Islamic terror spreads like wildfire and everyone is innocent. We don't know how they get all the money, arms and training, we swear we don't!
MH-17, a massive false flag, with the west hiding all real evidence. The west knows all about the Russian airliner though, they know how it was done without ever seeing the evidence! Hows that work, when with all the MH-17 evidence, they can produce no real smoking gun.
Just make one wrong move, poke Russia in the eye and think it is a laugh. What if they start to fund friendly terror, and start pulling false flags, pay off rebels to tear nations apart? What then? Will they always turn the other cheek.
Or really, who in the White House want's world war III so badly? Zionists, Neo-cons, corporations, insane nationalists? Or all of them. Obama , the Black Muslim Puppet President should be on the board of directors for ISIS, and chief in charge of Islamic Migaration to Europe and the USA.
Do you know who will be Putin's replacement? Just wondering since you seem to know where to find good information and articulate it as well.
Many think Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu is top candidate.
Nope, Sergei, if he remains in a position of influence, will try to maintain stability, who replaces Putin will not be anywhere as soft on Bolshevik aggression and Dmitry Rogozin is the man in the wings.
Shoigu would be a good choice. He's an ethnic Mongol. Like the Russians, Mongols are also well known pussies who will never fight.
I hope you were being sarcastic.
The Russians did not acquire all that land mass by selling tea.
The Mongolians also have a name in their history you might be familiar with -Genghis Khan
Jack you're on the right track...they're all thinking this guy is still relevant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halford_Mackinder
Jack, its 1939 again with the world on the verge of another world catastrophe and this time the US and its Anglosphere and EU vassals are the 'indispensable and exceptional' lunatics like another people that thought they were 'uber alles'.
I think we are all in great danger.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/06/30/banality-of-anti-russian-criticism/
We are being deliberately dragged in the direction of WWIII by insane people who need to be arrested, locked up and charged with treason.
We can make very educated guesses as to who is dreaming up and pulling the strings on these deliberate provocations against Russia.
But who is actually carrying them out? I guess that would be the CIA? Or are there some even more secret US alphabet agencies involved? And is the British MI-6 involved? And how about Mossad?
is it the same drone that blew up Deepwater Horizon in the Gulf of Mexico?
Was there a big US flag on it?
Probably not a US drone, but US operated.
All fun and games until RPGs show up in Baltimore or ferguson
What is the downside?
Do those 2 cities have anything worth preserving?
Who is the manufacturer; that is the question not asked that needs to be asked. Come over here Obama-boy, we have a few questions for you.
Did the drone have 'BP underwater Testing' stamped on the side of it?
Where's Tony Hayward currently employed?
It isn't done.
'Major' countries might false flag on embassies and buildings, but once they start on things like critical pipelines it is known the very same will annonymously happen to them in short time, regardless of evidence or not. Very quickly the whole thing falls apart.
If this had been successful, then the dominos would have been set in place...Saudi oil wells, USA pipelines whatever... equivalent tit for tat.
And there you have it, maybe not an attempt at all.
The East & the West are working together; wars are for the profit of companies on both sides and for the destruction of men and now women on both sides, the military are full of undesirables from the "Superior" (Globalists) point of view. Why do they, EAST & West work on so many insidious things together, like weather modification via HAARP and Chemtrails and space activities etc?
Never forget Agenda21; both the East & West are signed on to and committed to. Goal: 500 million people.
The East is drawing a line in Syria telling the West that five hundred years of deceit and plunder of the rest of the world are over. The East will no longer bend its knee to the West. Those days are over.
And it won't be fooled by any ideology from the West like communism that kept it weak. A new political theory is germinating in the East. The West has become a backwater heading into a super debt cycle collapse.
The west would be fine if they did not get flooded by 3rd world "visitors".
Debt would eventually become irrelevant and very
likely dismissed. Given the technology level in
Europe they would get through the economic downturn and recover.
...but someone is fucking with the fabric of society itself. That is the bad news.
You have to hand it to them... With everything else the Zionist "covet"-nant have tried using Chechen "proxies" to disrupt the civilian population since Belsan in 2004, the Volgograd train bombing in 2013, Georgia in 2007 and Ukraine in 2014 and now a downed Russian passenger jet full of"Russians" on board...
Why Russia hasn't "called it a day" yet with THE announcement to it's people "WE ARE NOW OFFICIALLY AT WAR WITH THE UNITED STATES"... after the U.S. downed Metroject 9268 it's beyond me... The only thing that could possibly be holding it up is where Merkel and Hollande are with respect to NATO post "Trident Juncture"... Tick Tock... Tick Tock...
I'd say that it's certainly a better use of their creative energies for the perfect "Armageddon moment" as long as you are stuck in psychopath mode!
Attempting to ban them a second time from another Olympics is so "1980"!!!..
Because it's all theater! They are actors! Nothing more.
It would take only several Russian Sleeper Cells in US/EU to create the havoc of the West's ISIS und Alciad'uh.
Was it coincidence that a couple of weeks ago there was a scare campaign in the media about Russian subs cutting undersea cables?
Was that a psyops operation to soften the public in advance of the US or others attempting to cut the Russian pipeline?
???
Because things are getting worse, everywhere, I suggest we, all, get an alternative source of heat. All of us.
Stamped: "Property of the US Government"
You laugh but they are that stupid. The US Government that is...
They most certainly are not stupid. You are the one getting played hoser.
If it's an underwater UUV, shouldn't we call it a 'drown' ?
ISIS It Sounds Insanely Stupid
ISIL It Sure Is Loony
I'm old enough to remember when Laying pipe was fun. This Al_CIA_Duh stuff is FUBAR Seriously when are these war criminals going to be put in Jail? What 23m civilians since WWII 250,000 in Syria..
Putin 911 truth bomb? How his buddies going to buy NBA and NHL teams?
Imagine if, instead of A321 being blown out of the sky, the CIA had tipped the Egyptians about the bomb and it was safely removed.
The explosive drone and the bomb on Airbus A321 are cut from the same cloth: the intensive punishment of Russia by the US government and its black hand, the CIA.
Why did the Airbus explode and the drone did not?
The Airbus was carrying 224 Russian civilians, considered the enemy, while if the drone had exploded in November in Northern Europe, millions of citizens of our allies would have become very angry at their loss of warmth.
They'd know that the Russians didn't sabotage the pipe and they'd know that ISIS didn't do it.
That leaves the US, Turkey or Ukraine.
Not too hard to figure that one out.
So the drone was just a harmless shot across Russia's bow by the CIA.
British intelligence knew that an attack on a civilian airplane was planned in that area but deciced not to warn others because "we share some information and other information we don't share". Like information that can save lives of holiday makers?
Here's Sputnik today
Of course, Her Magesty's Honorable Twats know that the CIA blew up the plane, but don't expect them to tell that to Russia.
The game today is to make the CIA innocent of even thinking about such an act.
So if you don't believe that ISIS has the wherewithal to pull this off, England has very relevant info which it can't share.
Whatever you do, don't waste your time trying to prove it was the CIA.
What contempt the Brits have for civilization, to publicly announce they have evidence but choose not to share it.
Let their fucking island slip into the main when the glaciers melt and let no trace of their perverted existence be ever seen.
"British intelligence knew that an attack on a civilian airplane was planned in that area [...]"
You may be right, but in my experience MI-6 and its masters in the FCO/No.10 rarely ever admit to knowing about anything. Of course they actually know about a whole lot and are often involved in causing it but it's all kept very very secret.
In this case, they are obeying Langley with this subterfuge to keep the mysterious kettle boiling.
More likely, the British ISIS guy was smuggled out of Syria by the 6 SAS men sent in 'dressed as ISIS'. He was probably trained in the Jordan training center in Amman that the Americans set up after they were 'kicked out' of Iraq.
A map says a whole lot more than words.
Because America wants to dominate Eurasia, Europe as its bitch needs to support America's wars in the ME; allow a potential explosive situation in Ukraine; and except all these migrants.
Even during the coldwar Russia as part of the SU was a reliable partner when it came to supplying gas.
A review of the ten largest Swedish newspapers shows that none of them have any articles about this story. Given Swedish sensitivities about the environment (a pipeline explosion offshore would not be seen as healthy for families) and their territorial integrity (the Russian sub incursions), one might reasonably expect to have some commentary in the local press on this.
Largebrneyes1:
“A review of the ten largest Swedish newspapers shows that none of them have any articles about this story.”
My comments:
The big media in Sweden has actually informed the general public about this underwater drone:
The Swedish national radio network:
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=94&artikel=6296896
The largest Swedish newspaper:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article21718415.ab
The third largest newspaper:
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/undervattensfarkost-vid-rysk-gasledning-utanfor-oland/
The fourth largest newspaper:
http://www.svd.se/apterad-farkost-utanfor-oland
The big media does not say that there was no intention to be able to harm the pipeline but does not claim the opposite either.
If, let´s say, the US or Ukraine would blow up this pipeline the general public would probably not think that this was unjustified. The general public thinks that the US and Ukraine are democracies and that Russia is not a true democracy. Therefore, they think that attacking Russian property would be justified if the big media would say that this is necessary in order to restore democracy in Russia or something like that.
If the Russians want the Swedes to have a more favourable attitude on Russia they got to do something about the big media in Sweden and perhaps create new parties in Sweden, i.e. adopt a strategy similar to the US and people like George Soros. I think that there may be a referendum on Swedish NATO membership in a few years and it is quite likely that a majority of the Swedes will vote for NATO membership. It seems as if the Swedish Centre party changed it´s mind on NATO membership shortly after John McCain visited Sweden in August.
If they want to know who's UW drone it is, check who just took out put options on the Russian gas company.
These comments are just a bunch of bullshit.................
Any normal non russia trolls around or has this website gone totally gone to the siberian dogs????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I may just quit this site!
Oh no. Not that. Anything but that. Where will we get the neocon/zionist perspective on America's entirely benevolent global actions?
Where???!!!
Lots on this site jack-off to Putin daily - they have no idea what communism is about.
Reminds me of the leftists in the '60's who now are destroying America - leftist morons all
"[...] they have no idea what communism is about"
Putin may be many things, but he is not a communist in my opinion.
That is simply what Western politicos want you to think because it conjours up fears that he's trying to create Soviet Union II.
Oh yeah, the leftists in the 60's who killed Kennedy and invaded Vietnam.
Joe McCarthy, Curtis LeMay, and Alan Dulles started the destruction of this country and idiots like you happily joined in.
Saudi oil fields go boom- mutha fucker
Cui Bono?
1. Israel
2. Qatar
Pretty short list
Cui bonehead?
USSA owns the above two bankrupt nutocracies.
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/321447-christians-isis-religion-putin/
Usually 'someone' is Langley.
Underwater dodgy stuff reminds me of the cold war. US Subs attaching listening pods to Russian cables.
Yesterday at 23;22 I said
I am so spaced out, I totally forgot to mention the threat of throwing the Russians and their athletes out of the Olympics in Brazil (don't even think about letting them host the World Cup in 2018).
THAT THREAT IS ALL BASED ON SUBORNED TESTIMONY GIVEN TO A COMMISSION PACKED WITH TOOLS OF THE CIA.
IT IS TIME FOR RUSSIA TO STOP BEING UBER FOR SHUTTLING ITS ENEMIES TO THE ISS.
AND TO REMOVE THE RUSSIAN SEGMENT OF THE STATION FROM THE WHOLE AND LET THE WEST DEAL WITH WHAT'S LEFT BY ITSELF.