Methods For Fighting Back Against Collectivist Tyranny

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Submitted by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,

In any examination of historical precedence, it is easy to see that the sheer number of collectivist and tyrannical systems have far outweighed any experiments in individual liberty. I have explored the reasons for this in numerous articles, including recent pieces such as “How To Stamp Out Cultural Marxism In A Single Generation” and “The Tools Collectivists Use To Gain Power.” To summarize, there is a driving desire among weaker-minded people to seek control over other people in the name of arbitrary standards of safety as well as arbitrary standards of “civil” conformity. While such people proclaim publicly that they do what they do for the “greater good,” in reality they seek only to satiate a private lust for power.

In the darkest corners of their souls, many people have personal aspirations to attain godhood in their own little worlds. And if they cannot achieve such godhood outright on their own, then they will join a mob with similar aspirations so that they can at least feel omnipotent through vicarious tyranny.

This is why collectivism and individualism are mutually exclusive. A collectivist uses force or manipulation to compel the masses to accept a society that follows his personal ideology. An individualist adheres only to the tenets of natural law and the non-aggression principle. He believes force is justified only when the personal liberties of an individual are threatened by others. And he demands that if he participates in any society, it be voluntary. Collectivism is society through coercion. Individualism promotes society through voluntary cooperation. The two philosophies cannot coexist.

I'll say it again because there are some people out there with severe reading comprehension issues; the definition of collectivism requires the prioritization of the group over the rights of the individual.  Collectivism by its very nature denies or destroys individualism and individual choice in this prioritization.  Collectivism therefore requires the engineered organization of individuals predicated by COERCION, or force.  Period.  If a group organizes voluntarily, then it is NOT collectivist.  If a group is organized through force and manipulation, then it IS collectivist. Period.  Bananas are yellow.  Oranges are orange.  The sky is blue.  Two plus two equals four.  And, collectivism compels participation by force, while voluntary community does not.

There is no rational debate to be made against this clear dichotomy.  It is truly amazing how some folks cannot seem to grasp the very obvious difference between collectivism and voluntary community; the same people that will likely still attempt to argue that collectivism and individualism are "not mutually exclusive" after reading this very article.

I certainly would never make the claim that most collectivists are intelligent...

The collectivist threat is not merely due to environmental factors alone. As the psychologist Carl Jung outlined in his collected papers titled “The Undiscovered Self,” at any given point in history at least 10% of the human population has inherent (but often latent) psychopathic tendencies. Less than 1% of these people will actually act out their full psychopathy under stable social conditions. However, in times of great distress or political and economic upheaval, the psychopathic 10% are given a kind of playground in which to let the devil out; Jung called this the “collective shadow.”

As I have explained in the past, these are the “useful idiots” within any society. They are the reason why there will never be a time now or in the future in which collectivist oppression will not be a potential threat, and why individualists will have to remain forever on guard. That said, they are only a part of the bigger problem. In almost every instance of mass tragedy or despotic government, an elitist minority pulls the strings of the useful idiots, aiming them like a shotgun at individualists in order to clear a path for total centralization. The elites are another horror altogether.

These are the men and women who EMBRACE their psychopathy. It is not latent or subconscious; it is a fully integrated and accepted part of their psychological life. They have found that psychopathy can be an effective tool for gaining power and influence when average people around them are less vigilant or less confrontational due to fear or apathy. And contrary to popular belief, psychopaths CONSTANTLY organize into effective working groups, some of them vast and global in scope, as long as there is the promise of mutual benefit involved.

This is not to say that they organize around “gain” alone. Elitists have their own pervasive ideology and their own rationalizations for seeking control of others.

They see themselves as “philosopher kings” as described in Plato’s 'Republic,' exemplary and “special” people who are born with the inherent genetic capacity to rule over the masses with the utmost clarity. They believe they know what is best not only for you, but for the human experiment in total. Their goal is to construct a sociopolitical apparatus that will allow them to have complete overreaching influence over every aspect of every individual life, up to and including the erasure of that life if they think it serves their ends.

"...You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you like it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner…” — George Bernard Shaw, Fabian socialist, from 'The Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Socialism and Capitalism'

 

"My conclusion is that a scientific society can be stable given certain conditions. The first of these is a single government of the whole world, possessing a monopoly of armed force and therefore able to enforce peace. The second condition is a general diffusion of prosperity, so that there is no occasion for envy of one part of the world by another. The third condition (which supposes the second fulfilled) is a low birth rate everywhere, so that the population of the world becomes stationary, or nearly so. The fourth condition is the provision for individual initiative both in work and in play, and the greatest diffusion of power compatible with maintaining the necessary political and economic framework.” Bertrand Russell, member of the Fabian Society, from 'The Impact Of Science On Society'(Note: Russell believed that individuals should be given at least the illusion of choice within minor aspects of society in order to maintain their willing participation.)

 

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. … [I]t remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons… It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.” — Edward Bernays, father of modern propaganda, from 'Propaganda'

Elitists are rarely as open about their true intentions as the men quoted above. They often entice the public with fantastical promises if collectivist systems are supported, including: equality of wealth and prosperity; reduction of labor and increases in leisure time; incredible technological advances; universal education; universal healthcare; the end of nationalism, resulting in the end of war, resulting in infinite global peace; etc.

When they are not able to sell the public on a particular aspect of collectivism, they will create artificial divisions and artificial crises in order to engineer chaos. As per the Hegelian dialectic, when we are thoroughly tenderized by fear and disaster, the elites return to the scene with a “solution” to their original crime, a solution that usually involves more collectivism.

So how do individualists fight back against collectivism, elitists and the useful idiots they exploit? Here are some practical strategies that anyone can employ in his daily life.

Stop Participating In False Paradigms

Yes, in the everyday world there are leftists and right wingers, liberals and conservatives, Republicans and Democrats. People subscribe to particular ideologies and philosophies backed by fundamental differences in belief. These divisions between regular people are indeed real. However, it is important to realize that at the gatekeeper level in these systems, the leadership in both parties subscribe to the same goals. They are not divided. They are part of the elitist structure. And while their rhetoric differs cosmetically, in policy and in action they will always work to destroy individual liberty and promote collectivism, whether they claim to be on the right or the left.

This reality also applies to supposed conflicts between nations. If two nations appear to be at odds with each other, yet the leadership of each nation remains in league with the same international elitists (bankers, Fabians, globalists, etc.), then their conflict is a sham designed as theater for the masses.

Refuse to participate in false paradigms. Point out the inconsistencies of BOTH parties or sides and identify how each works against individualism and toward collectivism. Do not affiliate with any group or institution that has a demonstrated history of antagonism towards individual freedom or that partners with known collectivist (globalist) organizations and frontmen. If you are going to fight for any side, make sure it truly represents liberty through its actions and associations.  Rhetoric is meaningless.

Decouple From Dependency On Corrupt Systems

As our economic situation becomes more and more dire, people are much more apt to become dependent on the system for survival, and this is an intentional result. I would not expect, for example, that the 94 million people in the U.S. who have been unemployed for so long they are no longer counted by the Bureau of Labor Statistics should refrain from government aid or cut themselves off from welfare measures and become immediately self-reliant. They should, however, consider working toward that goal over time; and so should everyone else.

This is not quite as impossible as it seems. Can you produce or repair items that act as survival necessities? Can you teach a necessary skill? If so, then you are already well on your way to independence. Once you have a necessary skill, trade is possible outside the controlled economic framework. The more individuals involved in an alternative economy, the more diversity of skill sets will be available and the more prosperous that voluntary community will become.

The ultimate achievement in my view would be similar in aspects to the American agrarian models of the past with the integration of helpful technology: completely voluntary communities in which free trade is the foundation; the existence of grid water and grid power is unnecessary; food production is local and ample rather than reliant on national or international freight systems and the artificial scarcity of corporate farming models; and security is provided by each individual for himself, as well as for the community, through voluntary neighborhood watches or militias.

All of this starts with each individual taking action to become a producer, rather than a wage slave or welfare slave.

Organize Locally With People Of Like Mind

Again, organizing voluntarily is counter to collectivism.  Collectivist systems cannot be defeated unless you are willing to establish a competing model that works better while maintaining freedom. This is not hard to do, considering collectivist models are failure-driven machines that devour people and use them as fuel to move society as a whole towards a “greater good” which is neither great nor good.

As outlined above, independent localism is the answer. It is a voluntary structure that encourages self-reliance and preparedness, while making production and innovation the mainstays of a healthy society. It rewards personal success and achievement, rather than punishing it. And, it helps a larger percentage of wealth to keep cycling locally, rather than being siphoned out of communities by governments or government-chartered and protected corporations.

Localism always starts small, with families, friends and neighbors. But as your organization continues to make life better for those involved, it will inevitably attract more participants.  The redundancy of localized economies would also protect people from economic collapse.  In fact, without the forced interdependency of centralized collectivist economic models, large scale financial crises would probably become a thing of the past.

Educate Children Privately

I’ve been saying it a lot lately, and I’ll say it again: Public schooling as it stands today is an apparatus for brainwashing, nothing more. With the dismal world ranking of U.S. students in math, science and reading, I hardly see what service public education is actually performing in America. The only service public schools do seem to excel at is indoctrination, with children now being immersed in collectivist lessons through Common Core and being conditioned into pacifism and fear through insane zero-tolerance policies.

The only working solutions available for parents today are to decouple from the federally dominated public school system and place their children in a well-vetted private school or to home-school. Any sacrifice, financial or otherwise, is worth it to save American children from a vicious system of propaganda and conditioning that could conceivably suppress their individualism and warp them into collectivist monsters.

Arm And Train For Self-Defense

I think it should be pretty obvious that there is a simple reason behind the collectivist habit of attempting to disarm common people: Armed people are harder to manage or control.  If an armed population was not a threat to collectivists then they would not keep trying to disarm everyone. Therefore, if you are not armed and trained in self-defense, then you are not a threat to collectivists.

You can be the most brilliant of thinkers with pristine logic and truth on your side; but without the means and ability to destroy an attacker or tyrant, you are nothing in the grand scheme. Intellectual warriors are not really warriors. And as a writer, I will say in all honesty that the threat of the pen is not mightier than the threat of the sword.

Keep in mind, though, that it is not enough to merely purchase a firearm or shoot at the range. Team tactics and training are essential for free people, which is why they are so admonished by collectivist elements in our society. Train with friends and family or with your Community Preparedness Team, as I do through Oath Keepers; but learn tactical methodologies and how to fight with others. Present a viable danger to collectivists, or be subsumed by them.

Remove The Elitist Hierarchy

Eventually, the fight between individualism and collectivism will become physical rather than informational. There is no way around it. The more individuals begin to decouple from the corrupt system and construct their own alternative framework, the more violent collectivists will turn in response. The virtue of self-defense requires that tyrants be cut off from their means to project violence onto others.

While it is impossible to stop the inherent nature of psychopathy other than to participate in communities where psychopaths are not welcome or encouraged, there is the matter of organized elitism to deal with.

Any fight for freedom from collectivists will require the removal of command and control. This is the only way that humanity can be given breathing room to rebuild without remaining under constant preplanned threat. There are, in fact, many organizations that openly work toward collectivist oligarchy, from central banks (this means central bankers in ALL nations, not just in the West), to the Council On Foreign Relations, to Tavistock, to the Rand Corporation, to the International Monetary Fund or the Bank for International Settlements, to Bilderberg, to the Fabian Society, etc. These institutions need to be dismantled by any means necessary and the participants removed from positions of control. Make no mistake; it will take a war before such people give up the reins of power. This is the inevitable cost of individualism and the inevitable cost of freedom.

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Macchendra's picture

Collectivism is the only means of fighting back against the banksterism.  Still, there's no need to get .gov involved...  We can organize as consumers and vote with our dollars.  100% free market.  No guns.  Fuck us and you won't be able to buy or sell.

TeamDepends's picture

Better yet, stop consuming and start producing. And never surrender your guns.

zaphod's picture

It was really unfortunate, lost all of my Au in the accident as well

Keyser's picture

Any attempt to take out the command and control mechanism would be viewed as an act of terrorism by the dictators in control... Which is exactly what they have prepping the populace to believe through their MSM psyops... If the psyops dont' work, they just rig all the elections and suppress the opposition... Turkey is a good example...  Any more smart ideas? 

Silver Shield's picture

Yup Alex Jones and now Brandon Smith are putting the poison pill of violence into the truth movement.

They are either fools or tools of the state looking to cook up domestic terror like all of those fake Muslim FBI terror plots.

Listen to all.

Follow none.

HopefulCynical's picture

Collectivism is the only means of fighting back against the banksterism.

WHAT?! Collectivism IS banksterism! Nathan Rothschild bankrolled Kark Marx (his 3rd cousin) while Marx wrote his filthy little red book.

INTERDEPENDENCE and VOLUNTARY association of like-minded individuals, coupled with self-imposed personal responsibility, is the path to true and lasting freedom.

Collectivism is for ants.

Macchendra's picture

No guns as in no .gov guns.  Take the bullets and government out of regulation.

Billy the Poet's picture

Collectivism is the only means of fighting back against the banksterism.

 

The Ten Planks of the 
Communist Manifesto
1848 by Karl Heinrich Marx

 

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

mkkby's picture

Hey Brandon, you fire breathing faggot.  Go ahead and fire the first shot to remove those elitists.  I'll be watching from behind that tree.  Fucking chicken hawk.

White Mountains's picture

Silver Shield about your comment....

You sir, are a liar about Alex.  Liar, Liar, pants on fire. 

He DOES NOT advocate violence.  Of course, you will show me clips taken out of context to support your lie.  This is what collectivists do you sack-o-sh@t.

Silver Shield's picture

Yeah so his calls for Revolution on Pierce Morgan was about smoking a peace pipe?

Or his rants about the solution to 1984 is 1776 is just about a historical reenactment?

Or his hysterical hype about Jade Helm is an invasion of Texas to round up dissidents is just a peaceful meditative state?

It is easy to see the CIA radicalize get Muslims but when it comes to the "truth" movement there will always be Alex's audience.

Come on fool, there is a war for your mind...

DanDaley's picture

Any attempt to take out the command and control mechanism would be viewed as an act of terrorism by the dictators in control...

 

Any act of breathing is now viewed as an act of terrorism.

McCormick No. 9's picture

...there are some people out there with severe reading comprehension issues... Finally, someone has noticed!

 I joined a local "partnership" group, in order to keep track of what the collectivists were doing. This "partnership" (gang), is entirely composed of Environmentalist NGO's and Federal Agencies. The NGO's are entirely corporate, and represent the worst industrial polluters on the planet, as well as some of the most criminal of the Wall Street elite. The irony is toxic, but not as toxic as the perpetual atmosphere of disingenuity, subtext, and Doublespeak that pervades the meetings of this group.

The meetings are "facilitated" (controlled) by a female university professor. At every meeting, she puts up a poster of all the PC rules that must be adhered to, so that everyone sees them. (Once, parents taught their children the basics of polite behavior, but now, these standards are no longer taught, and the universities must post their perverted versions of the same.) This facilitator telephones the participants before each meeting and asks them what they are going to talk about. Then she confabulates with the main representatives of the NGO's in order to deflect any potential opposition to the main objectives of the NGO's. This is entirely corrupt.

The "partnership" is a ghost organization. By that I mean that it is not a formal group with non-profit status, or any other legal status. Yet this group controls a budget of almost 2 million dollars. It does this by laundering corporate "foundation"money, from outfits lke WalMart and Uranium Mining concerns through cooperating 501c3 NGO's, and, like a virus, coopting the budgetary apparatus of the Federal Agencies. If an Agency has a discretionary budget, say fisheries, the Agency rep will go to the meeting and say, "We have 80,000 we can contribute." Then the "partnership" will make decisions on how that Agency money will be spent, and the Agency will spend the money exactly how the "partnership" tells it to.

The power of this collectivist group is deep, hard to attack, and frightening. They hold their meetings on weekdays during working hours. All the various individuals who attend, save for yours truly, are paid to be there. I have to give up work (and thus $$$) to attend. Their mission is to destroy the ability of working famiies to make a iving from the land. It is as simple as that.

I try to tell others in my community that they need to show up, but they don't. They are too busy working, or they have a natural aversion to meeting politely with their enemies, or they are just apathetic or pre-occupied with their own lives/problems.

I have a personal religious and conscientious duty to be non-violent. However, I fully support the natural right of all men to defend themselves, their families, and their property with any means neccesary. If more individuals went to these meetings and spoke out, the collectivists would be stopped. But if my neighbors wait too long, they will find they must resort to guns in order to save what is theirs. Armed men of principle can avoid violence if they stand up and say "no" when they can, long before they must. Alas, normalcy bias will prevent this.

teslaberry's picture

this was one of the most interesting comment posts in a long time. 

the thing is, americans have been dumbed down, entertained down, drugged down, and deprived of their entitlement to their family dominion . 

 

so many factors distracting and polluting their already fragile minds that they are a disorganized mess of the masses as always the masses are. 

the reason things always boil up to violence is because small organized well funded minorities will ALWYAS by nature be more capapble of non-violent planning to steal and co-opt resources of the disorganized majority to their own ends. 

by the time things get out of hand, like you said, it's too late for civilized action and it boils up to violence. 

 

this is a very obvious reality and the author of this article is being very forward and honest when he says the pen being mightier than the sword is horseshit. look at history. it is made of revolutions that succeed and the many many many of them that don't. 

 

runningman18's picture

Organizing voluntarily is not collectivism.

petolo's picture

I have given up on the 10% and the remaining 88%. They are shiftless hedonist who wouldn't recognise freedom if given to them on a platter. A well furnished zoo with plenty of greasy food, round the clock commercial television, drugs, sex and lots of sleep constitutes their freedom. Work, think and live by your principles and ready to join or assist the the escapees from the zoo. Likewise, accept the help and advice from those that respect your freedom. Work, love and knowledge are the wellsprings of life; they should also govern it.

Analog's picture

@ petolo They are shiftless hedonist who wouldn't recognise freedom if given to them on a platter. A well furnished zoo with plenty of greasy food, round the clock commercial television, drugs, sex and lots of sleep constitutes their freedom. Work, think

Freedom requires working and thinking - "they", your 88%, don't want that, they do want the freedom to mentally and physically consume a variety of crap, the more the better.

This is the only way that humanity can be given breathing room to rebuild without remaining under constant preplanned threat.

Anybody who thinks "rebuilding" the USA is possible lives a nice, ignorant life.  For those who think there will be a total collapse and rebuilding, remember there will never be another iron age, bronze age ... all the easy-to-mine resources are used up.  Rebuilding will mean a life of tools made with rocks and sticks.

Billy the Poet's picture

Have you considered the possiblity than rather than you being a real smart guy and everyone else bing schnucks that in reality things are the other way around?

People have enough sense to follow good leaders when given the chance to do so. The choice must be voluntary unlike the present system which locks in bad leaders selected by elites for years on end. The post collapse world is going to be glorious barring any nuclear exchanges or meltdowns. 

SelfGov's picture

Yes it is.

This neo-libertarian bullshit is exactly that, bullshit.

Billy the Poet's picture

As you are named "SelfGov," I'll assume that you think the author hasn't gone far enough. Anarchy works for me too.

Ace006's picture

I do believe you missed the point entirely.

1033eruth's picture

LOOKIE Here, critical thinking is in short supply once again.  As I type 45 down votes because they think collectivisim is an evil word like communism.  Critical in short supply because in this country MAJORITY RULES.  Nothing is going to change that unless we have a complete reset AND majority rules is discarded.

Critical thinking in VERY SHORT SUPPLY because collectivism is how the Mormons, Latinos and Muslims conquer.  Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.  They come and COLLECT, then vote for their own kind.  You KNOW that's how Sharia Law is going to be implemented.  And yet we have 45 down votes thinking its evil.  

Patriots in America also short on the critical thinking.  They REFUSE to collect so they can form a majority.  If any state gave the FEDERAL government the finger and seceded, the patriots would probably flock there, depending on who and what was leading the charge.  

And if I "insult" you and say critical thinking is absent here on ZH, you will dig in and be even more against the idea, that you can't enact any change until you form a majority.  Majority rules is as basic here in the US as death and taxes.
Collectivism is only another word for MAJORITY RULES.  United we stand, divided we fall.  The people that still love freedom and liberty are too scattered to form a majority ANYWHERE.    

HopefulCynical's picture

Majority rule = mob rule.

No thanks. I put up with that shit in K-12. Fuck the ruling clique.

1033eruth's picture

That's what you are living under asshole.  Tell me how you can say no thanks to it?  Tell me your program for avoiding it or not participating.  I look forward to your answer which should be an epiphany for all.   A complete revelation I'm sure.  

"Fuck the ruling clique" huh?  And how have you advanced your freedom under that philosophy?  Everyone wants to know...well, excluding the statists/liberals/progressives in any case.

 

Billy the Poet's picture

 Tell me your program for avoiding it or not participating.

 

The first step is to accept the fact that you own yourself and the second step is to stop insisting that you can never, ever improve your situation in life. The specifics become more difficult to determine off the cuff because there are seven billion people on the planet, each with his own right to self determination. Only a collectivist would assume to speak for them,  claim to know what they would do in a given circumstance and what is best for them.

teslaberry's picture

you have some obviously important points, but it's not really the 'majority' ruling. what you mean to say is that you need a lot of people on the same page to form a movement. 

there is something to your point that people on zh can be thickheaded in not accepting this as an an obvious point  but i think you couched it in the wrong language for them to get your point. 

 

there are for sure a lot of stubborn folks on the zh comment boards as well as plenty of trolls of all sorts. 

the fact that some people think this article is trolling the liberty movement to 'inject violence' into it is kind of proof of this foolishness. the article is observing some plain realities and in doing so , can ruffle some feathers. 

 

that said, your desire for people to 'collect' is difficult to entertain because as you well know , liberty isn't really about collective action , it's about a response to tyranny. so , you sort of have to wait for things to get really really bad for there to even be a remote possibility that liberty minded people 'collect'. 

a good example is the long time latent and somewhat ineffective movement of people to live in new hampshire, who are 'liberty minded'. 

kelly ayotte is senator. those liberty minded nh folks either don't care to vote or are just not really that 'collected'. either way you can also look at it as a way of 'ghettoizing' . ghettos can be incubators for movements or they can be death camps for rounding up groups to be exterminated when the time comes..............

 

nothing is ever for certain........

LetThemEatRand's picture

"the definition of collectivism requires the prioritization of the group over the rights of the individual.  Collectivism by its very nature denies or destroys individualism and individual choice in this prioritization."

Great 8th grade ideological statement.  Individualism sometimes requires individuals getting together and fighting for a common cause (collectivism).  Never in human history have individuals been able to be free without fighting off the assholes that would rule them.  Currently, that means collective rejection of corrupted elected government.  In the past, it meant collective action to form elected government to prevent slavery from Kings and Queens.  

Bananamerican's picture

for the sake of argument...Let's keep Collectivist™ as a perjorative ok?

...and use something like "alliance" or 'collaborative effort' otherwise....right?

The best Sun's picture

All governments suffer a recurring problem. Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted.

LetThemEatRand's picture

Yeah, the whole drunk on power and pathological thing existed before elected government.   Ask King _____, Queen _________, Prince _________, Pharoah _______, Pope________, etc.

The best Sun's picture

Yep, but I didn't qualify MY statement with the word "elected" so.......we agree.

LetThemEatRand's picture

No, we don't.  Kings did not ask permission and did not care much about free markets, but they ruled anyway.  Anyone who thinks human beings will just get along if we don't organize against these fuckers is a fucking idiot.  

The best Sun's picture

Do elected governments ask permission?

As to organizing against "these fuckers" I don't see any disagreement with that in my statements.

I am organized against them. How you doin' in that regard?

Attracting attention at online forums helping you out any?

Acting as a magnet for the identification of dissenters floating your boat?

 

LetThemEatRand's picture

"Attracting attention at online forums helping you out any?"

I don't know pot.  Is the kettle black?

The best Sun's picture

So much angry frustration! Understandable I suppose.

Did I attract your attention or just your attacks?

Attention implies you are taking notice.

I see little sign of that from you.

Ultimatley , you know all the answers because you want to believe you know them.

Answers are a perilous grip on the universe.

They can appear sensible yet explain nothing.

Like you.

 

The best Sun's picture

The pot is just smarter than the kettle.

Fixed.

Now go and fight the collectivists by forming a collective.

HopefulCynical's picture

I have to tack this comment on to the end of your argument to say: +1000 for using one of my all time favorite quotes. That Frank Herbert quote reorganized the way I looked at life when I first read it thirty years ago. And it's utterly true. The more powerful the government, the more attractive it becomes to pathological personalities. This is why the government can NOT be given one more iota of power than it absolutely needs to keep the barbarians from pillaging the general populace.

And on the "other side" of the political spectrum, the GOP fundies, this quote comes into play:

“When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong - faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late.”

stacking12321's picture

hey LTER, brandon smith has a message for you:

 

"

I'll say it again because there are some people out there with severe reading comprehension issues; the definition of collectivism requires the prioritization of the group over the rights of the individual.  Collectivism by its very nature denies or destroys individualism and individual choice in this prioritization.  Collectivism therefore requires the engineered organization of individuals predicated by COERCION, or force.  Period.  If a group organizes voluntarily, then it is NOT collectivist.  If a group is organized through force and manipulation, then it IS collectivist. Period.  Bananas are yellow.  Oranges are orange.  The sky is blue.  Two plus two equals four.  And, collectivism compels participation by force, while voluntary community does not.

There is no rational debate to be made against this clear dichotomy.  It is truly amazing how some folks cannot seem to grasp the very obvious difference between collectivism and voluntary community; the same people that will likely still attempt to argue that collectivism and individualism are "not mutually exclusive" after reading this very article."

Memedada's picture

It is not new – actually more the norm – that corporate propagandists redefine core-concepts to fit into their world-view. That collectivism is coercive by definition is false. There’re vertical collectivism (as in an army, a corporation, a monarchy etc.) or horizontal collectivism (as in a group of equals – friends, family, a syndicate, voluntary groups/associations, communities etc.). The former version is based on (indirect or direct) coercion and the latter is not.

The focus on ‘individualism’ in TPTB propaganda-effort is not new either, as anarchist Emma Goldman wrote:

“'rugged individualism'... is only a masked attempt to repress and defeat the individual and his individuality. So-called Individualism is the social and economic laissez-faire: the exploitation of the masses by the [ruling] classes by means of legal trickery, spiritual debasement and systematic indoctrination of the servile spirit ... That corrupt and perverse 'individualism' is the straitjacket of individuality. ... [It] has inevitably resulted in the greatest modern slavery, the crassest class distinctions driving millions to the breadline. 'Rugged individualism' has meant all the 'individualism' for the masters, while the people are regimented into a slave caste to serve a handful of self-seeking 'supermen.' ... Their 'rugged individualism' is simply one of the many pretenses the ruling class - makes to mask unbridled business and political extortion”.

- Red Emma Speaks

BigJim's picture

"Red" Emma makes a bunch of black-is-white assertions, without evidence or analysis, and we're supposed to be persuaded by her spiel?

[It] has inevitably resulted in the greatest modern slavery, the crassest class distinctions driving millions to the breadline.

Lulz, the two examples of "greatest modern slavery" were the USSR's communism and Germany's Fascism. Neither praised "individualism". Why do you post this tripe?

Memedada's picture

PS.

Brandon Smith is a paid shill. He’s a tool.

I guess he gets his orders from the Hazard Masonic Lodge (he's a Freemason – a Master Mason, Hazard Masonic Lodge 676, Thirty Second Degree, Hazard Shrine Club 320).

That he is a Republican is also telling (as it would have been if he was a Democrat – and it would tell the same store: he’s a happy eater of the blue pill).