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Russia Floats "Trial Balloon" For "Elections" In Syria - Saudi Arabia, Rebels Shoot Down Trial Balloon
One of the most amusing things about watching Washington’s Syria strategy unravel over the past three or so months is the extent to which John Kerry has scaled back the “Assad must go rhetoric.”
Put simply, once Russia and Iran stepped up their involvement, there was no point in continuing to insist upon his ouster.
In fact, persisting with the hardline stance actually risked making The Pentagon look even more ridiculous because unless the US intended to actually go to war alongside the rebels and various other militants fighting the Russians and Iranians, anti-regime forces are likely to lose this battle and because there’s little chance that Moscow and Tehran are going to go along with any kind of “compromise” that sees a puppet government of the US and Saudi Arabia installed in Damascus, “insisting” on something and then having Sergei Lavrov deliver a flat “no” is even more embarrassing than just coming out and acknowledging that the calculus has changed.
Still, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey aren’t ready to throw in the towel and indeed, Riyadh and Doha have at various times suggested that they may be contemplating direct military action. After all, this is an epic opportunity for the Saudis to break Tehran’s “Shiite crescent” and the effort is now falling completely apart.
Well, just as we predicted, Russia is attempting to orchestrate “elections” in Syria and Moscow hasn’t “ruled out” Assad running. Say what you will about support for the Assad government among Syrians, the idea that there is going to be a free and fair election in Syria in the middle of the war is patently absurd. If Assad were to run, Assad would almost surely win (for all kinds of reasons, some of which have nothing to do with the democratic will of the people) and then Russia and Iran would be able to tell the rest of the world to go home because the Syrian people have “spoken.”
As Reuters reports, a new “draft” document outlines Moscow’s idea for a political solution. It purportedly involves an 18-month constitutional reform initiative followed by elections. It was promptly rejected by the opposition and “Gulf commentators.” Here’s more:
Syrian opposition figures and Gulf commentators dismissed on Wednesday a Russian draft proposal for a process to solve the Syrian crisis, saying Moscow's aim was to keep President Bashar al-Assad in power and marginalize dissenting voices.
A draft document obtained by Reuters on Tuesday showed Moscow would like Damascus and unspecified opposition groups to agree on launching a constitutional reform process of up to 18 months, followed by early presidential elections.
The text, obtained by Reuters, does not rule out Assad's participation in early presidential elections, something his enemies say is impossible if there is to be peace.
"The Syrian people have never accepted the dictatorship of Assad and they will not accept that it is reintroduced or reformulated in another way," said Monzer Akbik, member of the Western-backed Syrian National Coalition.
Hadi al-Bahra, a member of the coalition's political committee, said the main problem was Assad and any political process needed to tackle this with assurances and guarantees.
He also dismissed the idea of holding elections under the current system. "How can the elections be fair when the citizens inside Syria are afraid of retaliation from the security services of the regime?" he said.
"The Russians are basically trying to wiggle out of Geneva," said Mustafa Alani, director of defense and security at the Gulf Research Centre (GRC) think tank. "So it is the question of he can stay: it's a red line for all the Gulf Cooperation Council. Absolutely a red line. This is something that won't be a negotiable issue."
Saudi Arabia is one of Assad's most strident opponents and Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir has said he must be removed from power as part of a solution.
Saud Humaid Assubayii, security affairs committee chairman at Saudi Arabia's appointed Shura Council, said the proposal was flawed because it did not rule out Assad's participation in elections.
Speaking in a personal capacity, he said the Syrian president should not be able to stand because "he killed hundreds of thousands of his own people" in the war.
So assess all of the claims made there for yourself, but the takeaway is that no matter whether the US, out of sheer diplomat necessity, rolls back its demands, this is ultimately a battle between the Saudis and Iran, and Riyadh is not at all prepared to see this nearly five-year effort to break Tehran’s regional influence go to waste just as Iran comes off international sanctions and cranks up its oil production while simultaneously allying with Baghdad and forging energy deals with the Russians.
As for the Syrian government - or whatever is left of it - there’s no question as to what the outcome is going to be, and on that note, we’ll close with a quote from a “source close to Damascus” who spoke to Reuters:
"The Russians and the Iranians agree with each other on the topic of commitment to Assad - this commitment is final.”
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What about an election in Saudi Arabia?
Put it in Allah's hands, like the price of oil?
That would be a farce to behold.
But dinterested parties like the UN or Jimmy Carter could observe!
Saudi Arabia can advise the world on keeping women medieval or crucifying teenagers, Otherwise SAudi Arabia should shut the fuck up.
or on how to have their ass kissed by the US and UK governmen
What about the Saudis? how could you have free and fair anything if you risk loosing your head.
Russians: "Syria's future should be decided by the people of Syria, in the nation-wide democratic elections."
Puppets US answer: "This is unacceptable, because the people of Syria does not agree to even consider the candidacy of Assad."
That there is only one problem: Puppets US - this is not the people of Syria, and therefore, they have no right to speak on behalf of all the people of Syria.
Put it in Allah's hands,
probably the same way our christian congressmen think abut most issues?
So, when was the last time the Saudis had an election? I'm sure they'd like more beheadings.
I wonder who will be the first to finance some NGOs to support civil unrest in Saudi Arabia. Sooner or later TelAviv will pick up the ideea.
Tel Aviv and Riyadh are curiously aligned these days.
Between TPP, labor force participation, foreign policy, rising healthcare premiums and just the boondoggle of failures I've long forgotten because there are just too many to remember, I don't see how anyone could view this president as the worst in the history of our country.
I don't see how anyone could fail to view this president as the worst in the history of our country.
Fixed it!!
I typed it on my phone quickly and made a typo. Thanks.
You make it sound like he is actually in control. Come come now, you know full well he is just doing what is owners tell him to do.
Bill Hicks had it right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytv15ono5J0
Russian TV today broadcasted occasionnaly recorded US coast nuclear annihilation plan on recent Putin meeting in Sochi. How to post here, so I will make an article about it?
Submit potato to official charge of relevant prefecture.
are you some farrmer's descendant?
i' m more of a man about town and bon vivant, really.
quite pre-Fukushima Japanese attitude. Aide-toi et le ciel t'aidera
Aren't bon vivants fellow travelers with homophiles?
jest askin'
"occasionnaly recorded US coast nuclear annihilation plan"
Not occasionally, not plan, just an answer to Trident II launches. Arm race is ongoing. And remember, there is no such a thing as "occasionally recorded something"
What you're doing for past 13 weeks on zh if you haven't learn the set of procedures yet.
I'm here kind of 5 years already. Just recently made an account
Some news from Russia are week or two weeks late here sometimes. I thought I can be of some help to this. But haven't found today how to post any stuff here.
Measuring by a number of some downvoting jerks here, let's keep them on 2 weeks delay
This is a decent response from Russia on the deployment of US nuclear forces in Europe and around the borders of Russia.
Putin is ripping pages out of Americas playbook faster than you can say Methionylglutaminylarginyltyrosylglutamyl.......
I feel like I'm watching TYRANT, for reals.
I'd love to get a sneak peak at the season [2] script.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrant_(TV_series)
Two of the 3 execs mentioned, if not all 3, about the eeeevil arabs are Jewish.
Just a fact, a wholly predictable fact.
Sigh.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-could-join-is...
When you get past the pretext, ie; powerful self- indulgent warlords financed by Western eCONomies, it becomes apparent.
Tyrant is about [2] brothers fighting for different causes, that ultimately rely on outside financing and weapons.
I'll check it out, YC. I remain amazed in any event that virtually every time I look into any tv shows execs - a group that is 2.5% of the pop is there. 'empire' is a long list, half jewish, for example. Jane the virgin about a latina catholic, off the boat about asians, and on and on - and that doesnt actually really bother me.
What bothers me is "diversity" not applying to the most over-repped group of all. What bothers me is the Abe Foxmans telling antisemite and 'canard' at allegations of the obvious de facto J control, and what bothers me is that people honestly seem to think we should not ever discuss a tony minirity's absolutely massive over-representation in our news and entertainment media, **due to Jewish ethnonepotism for decades** all while jews led the charge on 'diversity.'
What bothers me is the dishonesty and hypocrisy of the tactics used to obfuscate and preserve manifestly 'non-diverse' ethnic closed shop practices only when it comes to Jewish Americans.
Its fucking absurd. A tiny minority maintains a massive over-representation, ceaselessly painting all ethnic group but Jews as criminals and scoundrels, but because that minority is X were supposed to pretend it isnt happening. Fuck that, and fuck the tacit racism of people like Teh Finn who whine about any discussion of fundamentally unfair ethnonepotism.
Try it yourself - pick 10 prime time tv shows at random and see how many comport with what Im saying. Ill bet you its 8 +/-1.
And by the way if it were all Italians or Russians or Lutherans Id feel exactly the same only those groups would be statistically LESS over-represented.
When are the elections in Saudi, and do we all get to decide which foreign governments 'must go?'
Or - do you have to spend billions arming and supporting terrorists to get a say?
http://www.antiwar.com/henderson/?articleid=11920
'because "he killed hundreds of thousands of his own people" in the war.'
Nope. Terrorists supported by the US and Israel and the House of Fraud did that.
All for democracy and freedoms of course.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-...
How about what the Syrian people caught in the middle want?
But haven't you heard The Americans know exactly what The Syrians want!
most americans don't know what they want (or who the fuck they are)
"How will we judge the way democracies work? By the way it promotes happiness, human development, and justice.
If people do not know either that or why they are happy or unhappy, the premises of prevailing analysis of markets and democracies have failed. This failing has a name: Hedonic Fallacy. They are fallacious because they require qualities people rarely have."
from The Loss of Happiness in Market Democracies, R.Lane
ha
How about exactly what EVERYBODY wants
err, didn't he use chemical weapons.... oh no, that was the Saudi's in a false flag op, that beacon of shite stinking up the middle east
"How about what the Syrian people caught in the middle want?"
70% of them want Assad to be their country president.
"...we’ll close with a quote from a “source close to Damascus” who spoke to Reuters:"
Which means they (Reuters) just sucked it out of their thumb.
It is not surprising that Saudi Arabia and, one would assume the other gulf monarchies, are objecting to calls for constitutional reforms and elections in Syria, proposed by Russia and Iran. The Gulf monarchies are feudal, sclerotic societies, governed by nepotism and corruption and never have elections.
Why do these countries demand Assad go, and why have they supported terrorists to do it?
And why is anyone taking it at all seriously?
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
That's a good question. Even if this shit started over a natural gas pipeline, if Assad goes, that region is going to remain too unstable for such a pipeline to go through anyway. It is moot at this point. It could be over the control of water, which would make sense. Control the water in a desert and you control a lot of shit, but I have yet to see a single shred of evidence that this is why we are still in there, so I am hesitant to pin it on water. In the end, it could just be somebody's ego.
Because if Assad stays, Europe will continue to warm itself with Russian gas. If the US gets rid of Assad, then KSA and Qatar make the sale.
Money, power and oil are three names for the same thing.
Except if Assad goes, you're still going to have a bunch of inbred Snackbarian nutjobs running around the desert blowing shit up. That's not exactly a secure place for a pipeline.
No analysis of US gov action is complete without considering Israel.
And that means Leviathan and the Oded Yinon/PNAC line of plans.
The US is not going to help Qatar compete with Israeli gas being developed in large part by American oil companies. And building a pipeline through jihadi bantustans tends to preclude the credit and insurance needed to build such a long pipeline, *which need not go through Syria anyway*.
Also note the timing of the 'Syrian spring' and the signing of the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline deal.
qatari gas is the "conspiracy theory" offered to obfuscate Israel's role here.
lebensraum and stealing Syrian (and Lebanese and Gazan) gas/oil
qatari lobbyists dont infest K Street, nor are they deeply embedded, Nuland-Kagan like in the deep state.
Jewish Zionists are. And have been:
http://www.antiwar.com/ips/lobe102103b.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1565235/US-must-break-Iran-and...
'It is no longer plausible to argue that ISIS was a result of unintentional screw ups by the US. It is a clear part of a US strategy to break up the Iran-Iraq-Syria-Hezbollah alliance. Now that strategy may prove to be a total failure and end up backfiring, but make no mistake, ISIS IS the strategy.” – Lysander, Comments line, Moon of Alabama"
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/20/its-all-for-israel/
Amish, there must be some petrodollar recycling they are in need of, with a KSA /Qutari pipeline . Hence , the doggedness by US???
Europe will warm itself with Russian gas anyway. Saudi oil goes to China.
Europe (and Uncle Sugar) want the Sauds kept around to keep oil cheap and keep welfare-warfare states from collapse. Paying fair value for Russian oil would bankrupt the West in no time.
Ask Mutti. Having to pay market prices for Soviet oil bankrupted the GDR, and it will bankrupt the EU.
Putin, meanwhile, is defending his nation's interests. That means destroying the House of Saud and cutting off the money that funds jihad in Russia and worldwide.
Yes, oil is power. Once the goatfuckers lose their oil, you won't hear another word about the respect Islam is allegedly owed. Europe's Muslims will be lucky to only suffer the fate of the Sudeten Germans.
Syria has become the meeting place for "Government Fight Club"
Great analogy... Let's hope the Chiefs can control the Indians.
Ooops that was rayciss. ;-)
I'm sure they will, like the Hakowi tribe from F Troop
Just for laughs, here's a bearded rag head who is just about to have a very bad day...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZQRsUQVSHE
:)
Someone posted this vid the other day, but it's still nice :-)
How can we have an election in the middle of a war?
Ask Ukraine. They had one with the full blessing of the nobel prize winning leader of democracy.
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Union of Failed States?
White House, Media Silent One Year After Murder of US Reporter Who Exposed Western Links to ISIS
As everyone knows, the only way to guarantee a fair election free of bankster interference is to hold it while the Russian army keep order. It's much less cost-effective to hire Muslims to vote 15 or 20 times for Wall Street's choice with armed Russian Orthodox at every polling station taking notes.
(Had Stephen Harper swallowed his pride and brought in the Russians to see to it Wall Street didn't steal the Canadian and Alberta elections, he'd still be prime minister. I digress.)
And oddly enough, when people have a real choice and know their wishes will be respected, they always tell the banksters to go to hell. That's why Crimea voted to re-join Russia and why Assad would win a fair election hands down.
Needless to say, nobody who matters wants this to become a trend.
Based on later opinion polls, Scotland was robbed, too.
While various polls, by non russians even, showed that a large majority of crimeans wanted to rejoin russia post Neocon/zionist/oligarchical coup.
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/22/crimeans-keep-saying-no-to-ukraine/
Youll notice when American or British officials (or the neocon trollim) talk about Crimea, if you read carefully, you will note that not one single fuck is given about the wishes of Crimeans. They dont care one bit about that, nor the legitimacy of Russian vital national security in precluding the planned ejection of the black sea fleet and ensconcement of american boats miles off russian shores (which was of course part of the Grand Chessboard Plan).
Bah. Scotland was offered the choice between direct rule by City bankers and direct rule by Frankfurt bankers. No surprise people stuck to the devil they knew.
I don't recall the Nats considering applying for Eurasian Union membership and asking for Russian military assistance in case London sent troops north to stop the Scots walking off with "Britain's" oil.
The conservatives didn't loose because of rigging. We don't use voting (rigging) machines.
They lost because they were in power far too long and became entrenched with big business moving Canada the wrong way. I'm not happy with the results either, but we needed change.
Americans see that too, that is why Trump is so popular. He may be a bad leader, but he is not part of the system the lies to the people while behaving like dictators.
that's what happens when peope become too brainwashed and turned agaisnt each other to meaningfully aggregate.
It's done on purpose I think (through religion, creating artificial divisions etc). I watched an English TV show last night about high school life in England. It was supposed to be funny, but to me it was very interesting for all teh unintened reasons -
forst the school looked like a modern jail, then all teh kids were turned against each other, there was no happiness or collabration, only bullying and widespread feeling of awkwardness and discomfort. Reminded me why teh UK teenagers usually rank among the worst on international scales of happiness and mental health (I usually find them published in teh Guardian).
Divide and conquer
Time for elections in Saudi after we get rid of the evil there
The kings, princes etc... in Saud all need their heads chopped off... chop chop chop
Yes they do. Then these evil slimeballs should be crucified as they do to their own citizens, notably an 18 year old youth recently.
If they were crucified then we wouldn't see our elected officials, who claim they eat, sleep and breathe human rights, ignore the Saudis' barbaric behavior to protect their supply of oil.
Once again ZH, do you possess ..
1) The intestinal fortitude ?
2) The cojones ?
3) THE BALLS! ?
The WILL to rise above ..
1) The rest ?
2) The crowd ?
3) THE HERD! ?
Then prove it!
I'm a vet. A veteran of the USMC variety. Today is supposed to be my day. I don't have a job at present (thank you NAFTA, GATT, et al) So, I get no official day off with pay. No special recognition from my working peers. Maybe a text here and there. A pat on the back for my service to my God and country.
People at ZH here wish to honor myself and other vets present in this forum? You truly and honestly wish to thank us for our service? Then, please heed the following ..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/11/381067/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/04/americas-sad-terror-confession/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/10/divided-loyalties-inside-the-pen...
Now, all present, act accordingly to which your conscience dictates ..
https://app.box.com/s/hfgvcqg7gqh7i27at6sv53ywu87lwarp (Read Me First)
What do *you* think of the 'doodle' on the google homepage.
i'll leave my specific bg out of it but will simply note that pc bullshit irritates me most of all with stuff like that.
P.S. Take it or leave it but I find
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com
To be more reliable, or at least less unreliable, than Mr Duff's site. Ditto the comments.
http://warisacrime.org/vips
Wouldn't the missile pieces be recovered by now and shown to the public? Just curious.
( For jcdenton )
It's good to see our veterans awaking to what is happening in our name. Bless you.
two points - one, git as he may be, Assad does legitimately represent a section of syrian society, several million people. As kerry said about Egypt "several million people want this"... Second, with Iran and Russia overseeing this land may at last see some peace. Clearly a large section will become Iranian territory, but frankly so long as they keep the peace thats fine with me.
"Saud Humaid Assubayii, security affairs committee chairman at Saudi Arabia's appointed Shura Council, said the proposal was flawed because it did not rule out Assad's participation in elections.
Speaking in a personal capacity, he said the Syrian president should not be able to stand because "he killed hundreds of thousands of his own people" in the war."
Why doesn't this venal slimeball tell us how many people have been maimed, tortured to death, beheaded and crucified by HIS evil fake-Royal regime over the past years?
[...he said the Syrian president should not be able to stand because "he killed hundreds of thousands of his own people" in the war.]
So did Abraham Lincoln, and it didn't do his reputation much harm - among most Americans, at least.
Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten seems to have nailed it:
uk accuses us of supporting terrorists, but...
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/11/uk-accuses-us-of-supporting-terrori...
http://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
How about elections in Saudi Arabia ... that would be fun.
The world I grew up in is gone.
Today Russia is asking for elections, and the USSA and its axis are denying them.
For those too young to remember, we once had a media that really kept us informed, and leaders who did what we needed done. The USSR was held as an example of how dictatorships and a disempowered public lead to national corruption and weakness, as opposed to us, the "good guys".
Our GOP is about to be reminded that empowered people empower their nation, a blinded and weakened people have no nation they would stand up for.
of course the trail balloon was popped post hast, if it isn't floated DC or one of it's lackeys and tailored to their benefit and ambition then it's not going to have the cooperation or consideration of said powers.
I would imagine by now Moscow knows it is absolutely pointless to try and engage DC in any kind of negotiation or diplomatic process. As has been made painfully clear over and over again they don't believe in that sort of thing, unless of course said process is dictated by, or clearly benefits them in some way.
and as far as the Saudis go, sure they can engineer the bombing of a Russian airliner but they don't have the any where near the resources, manpower or capability to challenge Moscow directly in a military confrontation. that would take Washington's direct involvement plus turkey and the other Gulf states and even if everybody was on board there is no way to assure the whole thing won't end in a nuclear exchange. I'm fairly sure Washington would rather have that MDS in eastern Europe operational before letting that horsemen lose.
then again they are getting really desperate now and that does make them dangerous and perhaps more prone to doing something really, really stupid. the Russian air support is paying dividends and the Syrian army is making real, measurable and tangible progress. that military airbase they just broke the siege on is key to re-taking all of Aleppo so the pressure is building and time is running out.so how bad this gets now depends on just how committed Washington really is to Assad getting the boot. and judging by the addition of air superiority fighters and boots on the ground with more to come, it seems to me that pressure is overcoming what little slightly less than insanely evil judgement they have mustered up to this point
which isn't saying much.
FSA soldiers are deserting and those remaining in Aleppo are providing intel to the SAA and the Russians and ISIS just lost a major strong point. the new "democratic forces of Syria" group is floundering with no real command structure or organized battle field presence and may in fact be nothing more than a fiction created by western media to facilitate deeper military involvement.
peace and freedum smart bombs for the liberation of Syria?
it's starting to look that way despite the fact that this time will defiantly be different.
Here we go...
US Consulting Firm Builds Open Source Mobile Voter Registration System For Libyahttp://www.ibtimes.com/us-consulting-firm-builds-open-source-mobile-vote...
A timetable for those negotiations has not been set. But election officials are starting to prepare. Libyans can now register to vote and receive election updates from their homes thanks to a new text messaging system created by a digital consultancy group in the United States. Smart Elect, designed by Caktus Group, a technology firm based in Durham, North Carolina, is a free open source platform that can be used by anyone to build an SMS [short message service] voter registration system as well as the tools needed before, during and after an election to support it.
(Kinda funny how Blackwater in NC also was into media monitoring too)...
OK, Assad is an evil SOB, but a medieval dictatorship lecturing a modern country on democracy is hilarious, at least Syria was modern before the US kindly bombed large sections of it back into the stone age to help the Syrian people to find freedom.
Satan USA dasnt know that Russia can do anything for Syria
even to level USA with nukes
Vladimir Putin,
You are a liar and a fraud who is a lackey of the bankers.
If you were not;
1) The Russian central bank would not be allowed to remain a treasonous private institution controlled by City of London/Western ruling class interests which finances the Syrian war of terror waged by America, Europe, Saudi Arabia, and Israel against the Syrians and the Christians living there.
2) Russia would not accept fraudulent (unconstitutional, illegal) and not-even-worthless [because FRNs are not even defined as to exactly what they are worth] US dollars or Euros for Russia’s real and valuable oil and other natural resources, or for its arms sales. That’s treason.
3)Russia would vehemently have denounced the fact that Americans and Europeans are manipulating the price of gold, silver and platinum lower by selling precious metal that they don’t have in fraudulent paper markets only, to the tune of several hundred ounces MORE than each ounce the West actually have available for delivery. [For each ounce of eligible & registered gold in Comex warehouses, the Americans already have sold several hundred ounces on paper.] Like all IMF member countries, Russia acquiesces that it’s forbidden to use gold as money…
Putin,
You’re a traitor to Russia and all of mankind.
If not,
You’d have used fuel-air bombs on Raqqa (the de facto capital of the Islamic State) and exterminated these American agents before they tortured, raped and killed hundreds of thousands of human beings.
You would have hit the oil fields controlled by ISIS which finances their rape, torture and mass murder of human beings in the name of American- and European-aligned interests. You would have denounced and attacked the parties that buy this oil from them and destroyed their oil trade routes.
If Putin was defending his country, or Syria, he immediately would stop accepting dollars or euros for Russian oil or Russian arms.
By continuing to do so, Putin is financing America's aggression towards Russia, Syria and the rest of the world.
If Putin really meant to stop the West or the NWO from harming his country or Syria, why is he financing them?
Why does Putin allow the existence of the Russian central bank which is beholden to the City of London/Wall Street?
Why doesn't Putin hit Israeli planes that bomb his allies, or the CIA and the Saudis who shot down the Russian passenger jet?
Putin,
You’re no chess player. You’re just another bankers’ agent, just another errand boy for Goldman Sachs and JPM and the cartel of international banks - just like Reagan, Obama, Clinton, and Bush.