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Something Very Strange Is Taking Place Off The Coast Of Galveston, TX
Having exposed the world yesterday to the 2-mile long line of tankers-full'o'crude heading from Iraq to the US, several weeks after reporting that China has run out of oil storage space we can now confirm that the global crude "in transit" glut is becoming gargantuan and is starting to have adverse consequences on the price of oil.
While the crude oil tanker backlog in Houston reaches an almost unprecedented 39 (with combined capacity of 28.4 million barrels), as The FT reports that from China to the Gulf of Mexico, the growing flotilla of stationary supertankers is evidence that the oil price crash may still have further to run, as more than 100m barrels of crude oil and heavy fuels are being held on ships at sea (as the year-long supply glut fills up available storage on land). The storage problems are so severe in fact, that traders asking ships to go slow, and that is where we see something very strange occurring off the coast near Galveston, TX.
Off Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore, Asia’s main oil hub, around 35m barrels of crude and shipping fuel are being stored on 14 VLCCs.“A lot of the storage off Singapore is fuel oil as the contango is stronger,” said Petromatrix analyst Olivier Jakob. Fuel oil is mainly used in shipping and power generation.Off China, which is on course to overtake the US as the world’s largest crude importer, five heavily laden VLCCs — each capable of carrying more than 2m barrels of oil — are parked near the ports of Qingdao, Dalian and Tianjin.In Europe, a number of smaller tankers are facing short-term delays at Rotterdam and in the North Sea, where output is near a two-year high. In the Mediterranean a VLCC has been parked off Malta since September.On the US Gulf Coast, tankers carrying around 20m barrels of oil are waiting to unload, Reuters reported. Crude inventories on the US Gulf Coast are at record levels.A further 8m barrels of oil are being held off the UAE, while Iran — awaiting the end of sanctions to ramp up exports — has almost 40m barrels of fuel on its fleet of supertankers near the Strait of Hormuz. Much of this is believed to be condensate, a type of ultralight oil.
A widening oil market structure known as contango — where future prices are higher than spot prices — could make floating storage possible.The difference between Brent for delivery in six months’ time and now rose to $4.50 last week, up from $1.50 in May. Traders estimate it may need to reach $6 to make sea storage viable.
“Onshore storage is not quite full but it is at historically high levels globally,” said David Wech, managing director of JBC Energy.“As we move closer to capacity that is creating more infrastructure hiccups and delays in the oil market, leading to more oil being backed out on to the water.”Patrick Rodgers, the chief executive of Euronav, one of the world’s biggest listed tanker companies, said oil glut was so severe traders were asking ships to go slow to help them manage storage levels.“We are being kept at relatively low speeds. The owners of the oil are not in a hurry to get their cargoes. They are managing their storage capacity by keeping ships at a certain speed.”
As AP puts it, "a traffic jam of oil tankers is the latest sign of an unyielding global supply glut."
More than 50 commercial vessels were anchored outside ports in the Houston area at the end of last week, of which 41 were tankers, according to Houston Pilots, an organization that assists in navigation of larger vessels. Normally, there are 30 to 40 vessels, of which two-thirds are tankers, according to the group.Although the channel has been shut intermittently in recent weeks because of fog or flooding, oil traders pointed to everything from capacity constraints to a lack of buyers.“It appears that the glut of supply in the global market is only getting worse,” said Matt Smith, director of commodity research at ClipperData. Several traders said some ships might have arrived without a buyer, which can be hard to find as ample supply and end-of-year taxes push refiners to draw down inventories.
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Remember peak oil from a couple years ago?
Good times.
We're at peak. Oil is running out. Normally Saudi Arabia et al would reduce their pumping to get as much money per barrel as they could. But these aren't normal times, are they? Remember last year when Kerry visited Saudi and soon thereafter they started pumping like crazy? There's a good reason they're pumping so much right now: to keep the price artificially low, so the American economy does not collapse, as it otherwise would have were a) the price of oil not so ridiculously cheap, b) the weather weren't so ridiculously good (see: HAARP, Chemtrails, etc), c) and other manipulations that are occurring.
Nobody move....we're at peak storage here.
WTI 20s on deck.
They are going to kill prices buy it all up low....and ride it into USD history.
Same goes for every other useful resource. Its a looting.
RIPS
Yep, cheap energy is key.
To bad that governments worldwide now rely on all that extra tax revenue to fund their crap
Oil may be cheap but that doesn't mean the consumer profits from it.
They always seem to know what to do to fix the economy but they have no clue that it's all interconnected.
It's like those movies where some kids find a time machine and try to fix their future.
And every time they "fix" something, something worse happens because of it.
I think they're getting their inspiration for those movies from our political populist friends.
Their goals are impossible to reach, but they're going to keep on trying anyway. In their minds, the status quo MUST continue. Since that won't happen, they have resorted to ever increasing amounts of fraud and manipulation.
Fuck it they can print the tax revenues. The oil not so much. You are seeing a systematic looting of a country. It happens over and over again. For the future of america see Germany 1920-1945.......
RIPS
Time to sell off the SPR.
No tip of the hat, Tyler? What the fuck?
Wed, 11/11/2015 - 11:34 | 6777464 hedgeless_horseman
You should see the long line of tankers backed up off Galveston, waiting to get into the the Houston refineries. Last weekend, at night, they looked like a lighted bridge stretching out to the horizon.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-11/biggest-threat-oil-prices-2-mil...
It appears that a number of people don't believe in my explanation about the manipulation of the weather. Well it's true. Ready to descend into the rabbit hole?
Remember all that great weather this summer, in the eastern half of the country, along with the drought in the west? Not an accident. The western half of the country has been written off for WW3 because it's undefendable. The eastern half, on the other hand, is where all the agriculture is. And it sure has been a great year for the farmers, hasn't it?
The jet stream was redirected this summer up into Canada, swooping south again east of the Rockies, where it gave us one of the mildest and best summers in recent memory. No, I don't know exactly how they do it. HAARP? I don't know the science behind it. But it's being done for sure.
Now in the fall the situation has reversed. The jet stream was redirected down into Mexico, picking up lots of warm air and bringing it north, once again giving the eastern half of the country (where most of the population is) amazingly warm weather when they should have already been freezing their asses off. Here in Alabama it's shorts and t-shirt weather. Even up north in the Keweenaw peninsula, at the northernmost part of Michigan's Upper Peninsula, it's been in the 50/60s (also t-shirt weather for those Yoopers) when by all rights they should have been buried in snow already.
Pop quiz: when do most economic collapses occur? A: In late October/early November. Why this time frame? Because that's when cold weather hits. There's just something about the onset of cold weather that triggers something primal in us. Almost like the cold of reality strips away our illusions. And when the illusions disappear, panic comes. We are buoyed by our illusions all year round, and as long as it's warm and sunny we can keep playing our little games, but when the cold hits, for many of us the future starts to look a lot less certain. This is the formula for an economic crash.
Back on the topic of agriculture: we're going to need a few good crop years before WW3, aren't we, so the government and everyone else can stockpile food, right? This year is the best year to be a farmer in decades. My cannabis crop certainly benefited from the amazing weather.
The government is manipulating the weather. You can take that to the bank and cash it.
you definitely need to put down the bong
Peak toke
No such thing
BTW I see the BDI is 71 points from all time low. Fuck em'
Bong?
THis fuckers smoking a crack pipe..and with an iq in the low 70s thats not a good thing.
RIPS
some dupes never wake up
what is the purpose of a cartel?
to take a plentiful item and create artificial scarcity
that's EXACTLY what nyc.opec have been doing since kissinger was sent to set it up
true scarcity has no need for a cartel
We need a score card for wrong prognostications and then just tell the guys who are wrong over and over again to just shut the hell up and wave their past in their faces. Peak oil? Wasn't that supposed to happen in '95? What about peak food production? Global warming? Rising sea levels? Loss of ice at the poles?
Unfortunately, I was holding out for peak government but we apparently haven't gotten there yet either.
you want to see tanker traffic?? Use that site and slide on over to the Med Sea. It's packed w/ ships everywhere you look.
Geoengineering is real see Dane Wiggington. See the geneva convention forbidding weather weapons in the 60s.
See this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQKUd2KE0a0
There are infinate resourses and infinate promises from liars aka moneychangers, this said we will see peak resources in the future but this is a downleg of accumulation by the elite. THey will be long when the wells running dry where they can name the price in human lives.
RIPS
If you actually checked the site, all of these ships are product/chemical tankers. They are not VLCC's carrying crude thus have no bearing on crude supply or crude storage. Just pointing out that pointing out that these ships are at anchor don't say anything about the oil market. Sorry guys.
Actually, what I checked were the tankers that were lined up in orbit around Saturn's moon TITAN that were 'filling up' from the drilling down below under the moons surface on account of the abiotic dinosaurs that once roamed there.
Lo & behold ~ same thing is happening there.
(& it all likely has to do with global warming on account of the dihydrogen monoxide crisis)
I heard it all from O'Bama's caddy.
NOT TO WORRY!
The US is gonna sell off the SPR which will help things out
Aaarrraggghhhhhhhhgodmynutshurrrrrrtttttttummmmph
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARP
Can you imagine the price of oil if interest rates were six percent? Can you imagine the price of gold if interest rates were six percent? Believe it or not, commodities have a lot further to drop.
Even if the tankers are 100% product, it still demonstrates an unusual supply/demand imbalance. This is why ZIRP/NIRP/SLURP isnt gonna fix our global economic challenges. The longer we SLURP, the deeper the deflation resulting from the misallocation of investment capital. Also, the derivative misallocations become larger.
Back to the NRG industry and why the product tankers are a meaningful signal: you hold crude as long as you can, since there is negligible product decay @ the crude level. You CANT hold lighter refined products very long without the 'lighter ends' evaporating, lowering the quality of the fuel. This back up of product tankers signals to my eyes a renewed urgency to the issue . . . and puts the owners of those products on the clock in terms of dumping @ market prices OR risking product quality degradation (on some portion of the overall refined products).
Capt Debtcrash, quit messing with the plot!
You can't blame it on high oil supply if commodities of every kind are backing up,
why then, they might have to admit THERE'SBEEN NO RECOVERY!
Valuations of every sort are FAKE! The economy is STILL IN THE TANK!
Dane's got an even better document that serves as THE smoking gun proving geoengineering is taking place - a 750-page 1978 congressional document:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/massive-us-senate-document-on-nationa...
The link to the document is at the bottom of the article.
They've been doing this shit since 1920!! There's charts in there showing that they sprayed 15% of the continental US in the 50's with various stuff to test things out, as well as find out how the atmosphere flowed. They used weather warfare in Vietnam; they had a spray program in CA during the 70's drought; and - they were doing this all over the world. The scope of it is incredible. They even purposefully sprayed to see what they could do to crop yields, which resulted in devastated crops and farmers who were hurt by it - yet they absolved themselves of all liability - and kept doing it! It's all in there.
Just remember, that was 37 years ago...whatever could they have been doing since then, I wonder?
Excellent link. That document has a shitload of information.
The US government has done a lot of weird shit. It does not change the fact that it is shit.
The prognostication was that Conventional Oil peaked around 2005 and it did. Fracking and Shale oil have kept production static with a slight upwards bias....Check out the production numbers that's not the issue. Issue is DEMAND and the world choked on +$100 oil. The financials for our economy can't run on EROEI that the incremental barrels come to market at. So there you have it we can't afford our prosperity's cost. The demand destruction caused by the financial collapse on a worldwide basis is why we have a glut. Enjoy it while you can. It doesn't change the fact that oil production is not growing. In fact it setting up the dynamic that oil production will drastically drop. Check out the Bakken for verification.....
Demand is dropping. Slow flush. Economy coming apart in slow motion.
Smartest and most realistic comment of the day. Simple and truthful.
Take heart gladius17, when everyone calls you crazy and/or makes fun of your ideas, you can be sure that you're on to something.
Oil is scarce like water is scarce, all propaganda
The Newspeak that the glut of oil is from the Saudis pumping more oil is a diversion designed to mute the fact that the wolds Economies are shrinking and thus the Demand for oil is too....
The demand is shrinking in an economy were pumping less oil is not an option. Just like the velocity of money changing hands must be propped up at any cost, They must keep the oil churn going or the price will hit rock bottom.
As the price goes lower the margin calls come knocking and contagion spreads to seemingly unrelated industries.
It's like the music at the dance stopped and everyone just kept dancing in the silence, hoping nobody would notice....
I can't disagree with you....BUT... you can, for a couple of hundred g's get the clouds "peppered" to ensure a sunny day for your wedding. I am NOT kidding, high, or...well maybe a bit crazy, but you can ensure sunny days (making it rain early) for the right price.
Peak joke
The joke is on those oil-importing countries which have somehow managed to fabricate economies that depend upon high oil prices. Even typically cynical Zero-Hedge commenters seem to be quaffing the kool-aid on this.
I already did, 4 1/2 months ago. Cops raided my dilapidated trailer park home at gunpoint and carried me away to jail for 4 months, on marijuana charges, and seized all my computer equipment. While I was in jail the local meth heads stole everything of value I owned. Then the landlord evicted me. Now I'm living in a Motel 6 as I try to piece my life back together. I just got my computer equipment back from the investigator and was just horrified yesterday to find that one of my hard drives is damaged and inaccessible. That hard drive contained years and years worth of work.
I won't bore you with the 10x longer explanation of everything else this government has done to me over my short and miserable life. That's only the latest ass fucking.
How many businesses do you suppose I'll be starting over the next 5 years? How many employees am I about to hire, being in this condition? How anxious am I to pay one dime of tax money? I'm 32 years old and single. I would have liked to have gotten married and started a family by now. At this point I have no clue when that will ever happen.
How many other millenials are in similar situations and also NOT about to contribute anything of value to the economy, due to their entire lives being ruined by this fucked up government? 1/3 of us are living with our parents. If it weren't for my mom (who's a nurse; I don't have a dad who's worth a fuck) I'd be homeless.
If YOU walked the halls of power, what lengths would YOU go to in order to ensure that people like me don't decide to storm your castle and disembowel you for the pain and suffering you've caused us?
Peak bullshit.
Do you tame lions too in the evening when you're done proving perpetual motion?
he probably is telling the truth, nope-1004.
gadsden PD don't play. based on the nature of the arrest and the duration of the sentence, my guess is that he had over an ounce and he was probably tagged by an informant (who knew how much he'd have and when he'd have it). i would also suspect that gladius was small-time peddling; and there was likely an intent to distribute charge tacked on...which is why he couldn't afford bail, in that it was likely in excess of 15K.
and, gladius, i feel badly for you...forget the fact that i've gone after you once, let me give you a bit of very sincere and earnest advice: if you're gonna be talking shit online, specifically if the nature of your postings implies mowing down 5-0 with a full-auto machine gun (and, my friend, you did just that), it's a very bad idea to have your unconnected, low-level-dope-dealin white-ass flappin out in the wind...especially in gadsden, alabama. this site has a lot of attention focused on it, and you better believe that 'someone' in alabama took note of your musings. now, if i were you i'd show a good-faith effort to work hard and contribute to society in some meaningful way, or get the fuck out of gadsden. ain't nobody gonna bust up your life for smoking a lil bit of reefer in your home, not even in gadsden...but if you combine low-level dealing, incindary web-postings menacing cops and include information as to your hometown in alabama, you can expect trouble.
yes, the eye is gonna be on you down there...just get a job with a construction crew...hell, something...and DO NOT get desperate and start supplementing your income with dealing, the next time they'll park you in the state pen for 18 months.
your life is not over, but you're gonna have to improvise for a while.
other than that, i do likewise suspect that there is some level of weather manipulation afoot. the chem-trails are real, ZHelaots...don't believe janus, just trust your lying eyes -- they're all over the fuckin skies. no two ways about it, those are NOT condensation trails. and if someone has more plausible excuse for these thing's existence, janus is all ears. but you're not going to convince me that i dont' see what i see in the skies...just about every goddam day.
this country really has gone totally mad. even Hedgers, as skeptical as we are, will mock the suggestion that our government is engaged in an actibvity that they've admittted to and they spray that shit in your face on a daily basis.
i really do do my dead level best to keep the faith...i want so badly to believe that amoricans don't deserve what's coming...but when shit is being sprayed in the skies and the acknowledgement of it incites mockery, when it's plastered against the wild blue yonder from sea to shining sea and you're labeled a wacko for admitting that you see it...well, shit, if you can't beat em, join em...sure, guys, what was i thinking? -- the emperor is decked out in the most resplendent of fashion, he isn't nude at all. maybe i've got my tin-foil hat on too tight.
enjoy your soylent green, bitchez.
janus
Barrie Trower alluded to the fact that folks need to rethink the "tinfoil hat" theory. According to him, tinfoil is riddled with
microscopic holes, which actually serve to concentrate, or amplify wave penetration. He advised a thicker stock of aluminum,
roofing sheet thickness, approximately 26 gauge, shiny side out.
Commercial airlines are fighting for their very existance. Weight on the aircraft = fuel burned to move it. No airline anywhere will be carrying more weight of any sort than they have to for any given flight. Airlines will switch engine manufacturers or models of engine to save .1% fuel consumption per hour.
The trail you see is not from chemicals. It is moisture forced to condensing out of vapor becuse of the aircraft compressing the air as it passes by or water vapor as a by product of combustion.
That is why it is call a "contrail" or "vapor trail"
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1EODB_enUS535...
Thats right folks....its just a cloud.
You're wrong.
Here's a link to a video that shows why:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/high-bypass-turbofan-jet-engines-geoe...
Not only that, I trust my own eyes. I often see planes overhead leaving behind thick, long trails that disperse over time to cover the sky - while also observing commercial air traffic over the Sierras leaving behind short, thin trails that disappear in minutes...at the same time and altitude. On a clear day. With no wind or weather systems incoming. Many, many times.
Yes, I've seen the exact same thing, in northeast Alabama. One clear summer day last year I looked up in the sky and saw two "chemtrails" stretching across the sky, crossing each other at a 90* angle, from horizon to horizon basically. They were bright white and persistent. Looking more closely I saw a third jet flying along somewhere in the middle, with a normal looking contrail that dissipated away not too far behind the aircraft.....just like I remember seeing years ago as a kid when I'd stare up in the sky and look at such things. After all this reading on the internet about chemtrails and such, that was a real WTF moment, to actually see clear evidence of it right there in the sky above me.
On exactly what basis would any dipshit down this observation???
I didn't believe in Geo-engineering fully until I looked with my own eyes and actually thought about what I was seeing.
Beware the Lamb!!!
"Thats right folks....its just a cloud."
You're so full of shit if you ever take a laxative you'd dissolve into a hot steaming pile!
IF these are condensation trails they'd evaporate in seconds.
What skool you went?
That's right, govmint skool.
Loved guntersville lake
"my guess is that he had over an ounce and he was probably tagged by an informant (who knew how much he'd have and when he'd have it). i would also suspect that gladius was small-time peddling; and there was likely an intent to distribute charge tacked on...which is why he couldn't afford bail, in that it was likely in excess of 15K."
You are completely wrong. See explanation below. I haven't sold (or offered to sell) a single gram of weed in Alabama. I haven't even seen anyone or hung out with anyone in the entire year since I've moved back here. I've been keeping completely to myself and hiding in fear of my life. They specifically searched me out and found me, just to get me, just because that's what these assholes do.
I remember driving through alabama awhile back. A lot of towns have signs saying "Police Juridiction of XXXX"
Probably outside of Gadsden too...May explain a lot.
I don't think I would live in a State whose constitution is longer than the New Testament!
Janus,
Good advice to Gladius. And Gladius, take it with a grain of salt. Wisdom doesn't always come from accepting everything anyone tells you, it comes from accepting what you can manage, growing from it, and managing more. Don't hurt yourself by attempting too much at one time, and screaming in the streets just brings the wrong attention to you. Tact, subtelty, perserverance. You'll do well from there.
Janus, Gladius, and fellow ZH'ers:
I've had a hard time with the whole chem-trail processes. About a year ago someone (memory is foggy) either on here or any one of a multitude of site's I visit proposed his take on how the whole weather modification works. Since then, I've kept my eyes, newly opened to the plausibility and have attempted to garner more evidence, for my own understanding you understand, to determine if this could actually work.
In a nutshell (yeah, I know I'm long winded at times):
We do know that some form of weather modifications, locally, are not only realistic, but could also be ramped up and conjoined with other methods to create a larger effect, I.E. salting clouds, smoke, draining/creating large bodies of water, and other means that the astute reader will look up for themselves as proven technologies that you may or may not be aware of.
But with the chemtrails, the writer presented this observation- if there is some measure of aluminum product being dispersed it has the potential to do 2 things. 1) create a reactive molecule that will be excited by small to large bursts of microwave, such as what is created from cell phones and especially the majority of cell towers in a region (you don't think that the #'s we see aren't overkill do you?). This creates a slight warming effect to upper levels of the atmosphere in a region, induce a change in winds due to basic science- hot rises, cold swoops in, winds is created by this desplacement and it moves other areas patterns as well. 2) aluminum in fine particulates creates mental issues to humans and other creatures, albeit at a very small level, but with time, heavy metal toxicity occurs and a plethora of health issues emerge. Please, rather that disregard, learn and disprove or see what the possibilities are.
I'm just putting this out there for consideration. I can say, the more I've learned, the more it piques my interest and provides better insight into what could be being done, and how it seems to make a crazier populace that is easily controlled by redirection.
Truth is stranger than fiction. There's nothing wrong with your thinking. Keep doing it.
janus "...forget the fact that i've gone after you once, let me give you a bit of very sincere and earnest advice: if you're gonna be talking shit online, specifically if the nature of your postings implies mowing down 5-0 with a full-auto machine gun (and, my friend, you did just that),"
Only a paranoid schizo could possible construe those comments as, "mowing down 5-0 with a full-auto machine gun".
Your exaggeration and hyperbole are falsehoods, i.e. lies.
To be fair, there are many paranoid schitzos in government.
Back in late 2012 some fat bitch from the FBI knocked on my door and flashed her badge in my face, asking why I was "threatening" people online. Apparently sending an email to some GOP bigwig telling him that he was a piece of shit was considered a threat by her type. I said I hadn't threatened anyone and had nothing further to say, and closed the door.
One week later the local police show up at my door out of the blue with a search warrant, looking for a stolen iPhone, which had supposedly been taken from a place where I hadn't been in over a year. As they were leaving empty-handed they looked embarassed and ashamed.
No offense to the poster but he's hardly boasting about his life. He's depicting a predicament only the lowliest meth-head would aspire to.
No offense to you but you're a judgmental moron.
That's the spirit!
yikes - if I were you I'd pickup that bong
Yeah...Escape into a fantasy while the World kics your exposed arse.
Yeah. Great plan.
It's all one big fantasy by now anyway, so what does it matter if you're under the influence?
The people still believing in the value of fiat money will be the ones getting royally fucked.
Common Tall Tom,
You may "escape reality" with a glass of scotch and an ecig, while he hits his bong.
Self righteousness aside, Is there really any difference?
Tall Tom... Sniff sniff... you smell that? Smells like bacon. The only reason shit like that is illegal is because the populace is too stupid to think for themselves along with apathy to do anything about it. Allowing govt to run ram shod over them. Bacon bits will find out just how pissed people are from years of abuse when society completely melts down.
Come join us for free at www.gunsgrubandgold.com for all your survival needs.
That site runs DOD script... no thanks.
If you are truthfully innocent then you can disregard the rest of this.,I just do not think so.
So I have got some news for you. If you are iving in a Motel 6...YOU ARE HOMELESS. So stop your denial.
As for DEALING DRUGS...You put yourself in jail. And the tweakers that you hang out with, YOUR CUSTOMER BASE FOR YOUR ARBITRAGE ON THE POT, are just seeking the gains from your arbitrage...for all of the times that you SUPPOSEDLY ripped them off..OR DID.
That is how those complete and total, loser, assholes justify their criminal behavior.
So it was YOU who dealt to a Confidential Informant. You did that. That is the lifestyle which YOU CHOSE.
I do not care about what could be, would be, or should be, or an "If only" as that is NOT. I deal with cold, stark and harsh REALITY.
It should be legal...It is NOT.
It could be legal...It is NOT.
It would be legal...It is NOT.
If only it were legal...It is NOT.
It is NOT. That is the harsh reality.
So you do not deal in it if you want to stay out of jail and not deal with the freaks, creeps, and thugs who will steal everything that you own. They are LOSERS and so are YOU.
Did you learn that yet?
And you sit there and blame others for the pain and suffering that you have experienced?
You played...You pay.
It is now time to GROW UP, STOP USING DRUGS, and get a better set of "friends".
As for "storming the castle" I would teach you how to do that as I was taken for $800 Grand when I was FOUR YEARS OLD and could not defend myself.
Yes they do deserve their castle stormed for all of their crime...but not for your crime.
Quite the rant. Do you have a newsletter interested parties could sign up for and get some sort of periodic high horse privilege check?
It is not a rant.
I grow weary of children posting here, posing as responsible adults.
Take personal responsibiity for your actions. If you choose to use drugs and alcohol then YOU PAY THE PRICE.
I am not paying for it. Don't expect any sympathy from me on that...at all.
You dance? You pay for the music. Not me.
And this is NOT Whine Club. The Huffington Post has its own venue.,
It was a rant.
Quit railing at your fellow Americans that think the drugs laws are oppressive and excessive. People do recreational drugs and always have. The biggest harm to society is done by the hammers, like yourself.
I don't smoke ciggies or pot but I think pot should be legal. I don't drink ethanol either and that is legal.
The possession/usage drug laws are just to provide busy work for the statist jarheads so the oligarchy, that the anti-drug statist jarheads serve, can keep enough jarheads on the payroll so there is enough statist forces available to defeat any tax rebellion. It's about the money gomer.
I'm in favor of the DUI laws, just not the possession/usage laws, but people should be free to put in their bodies what they choose as long as they are not infringing on others
One must be free in order to claim, "I'm free."
1/2 the ignorant jarheads across this anti-freedom police state would be sent off with a, "Wean off the gov teat there stud, and go get a real job." message if it weren't for the oligarchy being fearful of a free people telling them to get lost.
(See the article: "The U.S. government does not represent the interests of the majority of the country's citizens, but is instead ruled by those of the rich and powerful, a new study from Princeton and Northwestern universities has concluded."
http://www.businessinsider.com/major-study-finds-that-the-us-is-an-oliga...
FFS, RESPONSIBLE ADULTS would never have allowed the RETARDED prohibitions on what we PEOPLE are allowed to have in our hand, house, yard, car, pocket, etc. on penalty of prison - PATHETIC TT, PATHETIC - YOU are NOT a RESPONSIBLE ADULT - go back to Kindergarten !!!
Tom, I used to have a lot of respect for you. I always enjoyed your posts here. But after this retarded shit you've just said, that is no longer the case.
Look in the mirror: YOU are personally what's wrong with this country.
"So it was YOU who dealt to a Confidential Informant."
No, I didn't sell to anyone, you stupid fuck. I simply failed to appear in court. I was trying to flee the God damned state after the previous year when, in the first hour of being back in the state, I was pulled over under false pretences (cop said my taillights were out), searched illegally with no search warrant or probable cause, charged with a felony for possession of 1.5 ounces of marijuana (which I grew legally in Michigan as a licensed medical marijuana caregiver), taken to jail on 4th of July weekend to enjoy my "freedoms" from inside a cage, and to top it off, also robbed by the same cop who took my six pack of craft beer I'd brought down from Michigan to remember that state by.
I moved into a trailer park to lay low and hide. I didn't think they knew where I was, or I would have showed up to court. But the investigators specifically searched me out and found me, by sending an informant (a faggot and meth head, actually) to flatten my neighbor's tire, and then when she called me for help (since I'm the neighborhood mechanic), took the opportunity to grill me for my name, birth date, etc so as to confirm my identity. When I failed to appear in court, they showed up to arrest me....smelled weed....searched the house...charged me with multiple felonies.
They found three poppy flowers in my large flower and vegetable garden, which they pulled up by the roots, put on the scale, and then concluded I was an opium trafficker in possession of pounds of opium. So they put a $50,000 property bond on my head so I couldn't bond out, knowing that my only choice would be to either accept whatever plea bargain the prosecutor offered, or rot in jail for months or years (like so many other people in there) waiting on a trial in which I'd probably end up losing all my rights anyway.
But thanks for asking, instead of jumping to conclusions.
Marijuana IS legal in Colorado and Washington, and within 10 years it will be legal in the rest of the country too. Everyone knows it; why don't you? Even the God damned police know it.
Before I started smoking weed at the age of 24, I believed 9/11 was the work of Al Qaeda, and I would have laughed in your face had you told me the WTC fell due to explosive demolition. I've come a long ways from those days. This plant was my stepping stone toward understanding what's really going on in this world. It made me realize that everything I'd ever been taught was a lie.
I am not a loser, and you are a fucking asshole to call me such. I'm an honorably discharged veteran of the U.S. Air Force. 225th Combat Communications Squadron, Gadsden, AL. My AFSC was 2E151: Satellite, wideband and telemetry systems journeyman. I joined up in August 2001 at the age of 17. I was in JROTC class in my senior year of high school when the towers fell. I was at tech school in the barracks at Keesler AFB MS when G.W. Bush announced his invasion of Iraq. I did two tours in Afghanistan, and I traveled all over that war torn country via Chinook, Blackhawk, and Humvee, getting shot at, mortared, car bombed, and sweating my nuts off on a regular basis, just to come home to selfish, ignorant pricks like you calling me a loser for smoking a plant that's been with humanity since the dawn of agriculture.
Through it all, I've developed a system for growing cannabis that is more efficient and productive than anything anyone else anywhere has ever thought of. I'm about to move to Colorado (as I was already preparing to do in the first place, before this happened) where I will make at least $40 million dollars building a factory based on this system, that will make its owner the world's first cannabis billionaire.
It's not just a system for growing cannabis--it's a revolution in agriculture that will change the history of the world. The greatest step forward in agriculture since the invention of the plow.
I will be a success, and I will be remembered in American history as a winner, no matter how many fucking assholes like you fight me every step of the way.
Fuck you.
If your doing drugs to escape from pressure and reality, you are a loser.
It's like cheating on your ife just a few times. You're a loser.
fuck you and the high horse you rode in on
Froot loops, I don't have time to figure out who the fuck you are, but based on this one post you sound like a brainwashed progressive dumb ass.
If with all the ship going on in this world today, you think that somoene who smokes a little weed is a loser, you just might be an idiot. Here's your sign.
No worse loser than the one who works 60+ hours a week for money while ignoring their wife and kids using the excuse "they will get to an ivy league school and the wife and I both drive new mercs." Those types destroy many more lives than a pot smoker (considering they sit around enjoying their high not doing ANYTHING- work included). Sometimes the best decision is to do nothing, considering the costs of healthcare, taxes, and all that against the small business, i think that the time is coming for many many people to say screw this welfare pays MUCH more than work does...and the USA will be the stinky bung hole it seems destined to become.
"If your doing drugs to escape from pressure and reality"
I'm not. Dumb ass.
No, you're doing drugs for the multi million dollar pay off at the end of the herbal tunnel.
Goldman Sachs, Ganja style.
Filthy capitalist drug lord.
Wrong again. I smoke marijuana because I enjoy it, and because it stimulates my mind. I started growing weed because I'm not going to pay $300+ an ounce for something I can grow myself. And I came up with a better system for growing weed because that's what I do: figure out better ways to do things. And yes, I'm going to profit handsomely from my hard-earned knowledge, and then use the earnings from this venture to fund other projects. If you disapprove, tough shit. Go drink your caffeine or smoke your cigarettes or whatever floats your boat.
Way to feed the police-state bro, my tax dollars wasted eventually threading you through the court system into county lockup. You could have at least had the sense to live in a state that is pro-dopehead like Colorado or Oregon.
Comment withdrawn on second thoughts.
Ethanol is a drug.
Do you use the drug ethanol? It's more harmful than pot.
Why don't you form a 'Temperance Society' and free us of ethanol usage.
I really would like to believe all this, but you lost me with the agricultural revolution. People have grown plants since forever and there are only a handful ways to do it. And you are going to make $40 million off a new way to grow plants? I'd say tell me more but I know if it was real you wouldn't tell me for fear of copycats, and if it was a lie you wouldn't be able to tell anything anyway.
All the best on your way though
Hemp Oil can generate a lot of ENERGY.
Hemp is a Miracle Plant.
It is myopic that it is not widely cultivated and used.
But it is ILLEGAL and a Federal Crime.
Thank Dick Nixon's War on Drugs for that.
"I'd say tell me more but I know if it was real you wouldn't tell me for fear of copycats, and if it was a lie you wouldn't be able to tell anything anyway."
How about I just tell you, because it's true, and because I don't fear copycats? I didn't invent anything new. Everything I know, I learned from humanity. I owe it to humanity to explain what I know so that others can benefit from it too. Not to say I'll explain every single detail, because that would be long winded, and indeed, I would like to at least have a chance to profit first. But I'll give you the overview
The system combines the best of what mother nature has to offer, and the best of what industry has to offer.
There are two main components: a factory, and a forest. The forest is managed through the system of permaculture. No plowing. It is my contention that the invention of the plow was a huge mistake and a step backwards for humanity. You can use Google to learn a lot about permaculture, but the 30,000 feet overview is, there are seven layers in a forest, and we use all the layers. Trees, bushes, vines, herbs, root crops, etc, all have their place, and all use energy from sunlight to break down minerals in the soil and transport them above where it is converted into plant mass. The plant mass is harvested as biomass.
The biomass is fed into reactors which process it through anaerobic and aerobic bacteria which process it in sequence, first to produce biogas (a mixture of approx 60/40 methane/CO2) which is used for power generation in the factory, and the second to produce compost which is partly used in the factory, with most of it being returned to the forest floor in a cycle to maintain soil quality. It is completely vertically integrated and self-sustaining. Even the employees are fed from the proceeds of the land. We can even make hydrocarbon fuels, including high quality gasoline and diesel.
In the factory portion we use an automated conveyor to move plants from one stage to the next as they grow. The plant grows in three stages: seedling, vegetative growth, and flowering. As it progresses through the life cycle, the plant moves from one end of the factory to the other, unlike the current system where the plant sits in one spot and morphs and changes as it gets bigger. This way of doing things has multiple benefits that I won't really get into, other than to say it reduces labor cost, which is the biggest expense in growing any kind of plant, especially marijuana.
With this system I can for example grow tomatos profitably and sustainably at $5/lb, all year round......in Alaska. No other agricultural system can do this.
That's the short of it. Serious investors can feel free to contact me for more information.
I see several issues in your master plan, especially as they relate to Colorado.
One of the most critical aspects of growing, and one that makes the foothills of Colorado potentially the most suitable place in the world for growing, is the lack of humidity. The plants must be kept dry even as the roots are wet. You talk about a forest, using a forest, but also the employees being fed from the proceeds of the land. The places in Colorado most suitable for growing food, vegetables, etc., are the eastern parts of the state, the relatively low lands. The mountains, and the soil in the foothills and mountains, are not suitable for this type of growing at all. The reason it works for marijuana is that these folks are growing in a soil medium or hydroponically and evacuating the humidity out of the grow space. But for growing tomatoes and food for the employees in the same space would only reduce the space for the cash crop. So, maybe you're going to grow in the eastern part and not in the mountains; but then, where's the forest located?
Second is your thought about labor cost in growing marijuana. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but my understanding is that the biggest labor cost in a grow is during and after the harvest. Getting the plants as seedlings or clones involves some labor, and then there's the transplant, but from then on it's lights, water/nutrients, and fans. Lots of lights, lots of water and nutrients, and lots of fans, and that's a lot of money for things other than labor, which at that point is basically moving the plants to prevent burns. But then there's the harvest, when everybody has to help out. The plants must be cut, and then trimmed appropriately. The trimming is the most labor-intensive step in the production, and one that cannot be skipped or compressed by some technology (indeed you haven't even mentioned it). Then the plants must be cured - it must be aged for 4-7 days, drying and then putting in bags on 12 hour or more cycles - until all the remaining/residual water has evaporated out through the buds (which is why you must trim because you don't want it to escape through the spleaf). This also cannot be given short-shrift. Then you can further cut down and weigh. I don't see any part of your plan which accounts for the time and labor in these steps, which are completely after the growing - and more robust crops means more labor during these steps.
Lastly, you mention that you're going to make $40 million in order to make someone else a billionaire. Why? Surely if you know the art and science, it would only take you a few years, maximum, and possibly only a few grow cycles, to go from a small investment to a medium-sized operation making some serious cash, at which point you could ramp up some more. It just seems like you're chasing the quick nickel at the expense of the slow dime, or quarter, if you will. And you end by asking about serious investors. Those serious investors should be investing in you and you alone. If you are going to make someone else a billion dollars, that person should be bankrolling your entire operation. I got a really mixed message from those two statements.
Anyway, that's my two cents. Good luck to you.
"One of the most critical aspects of growing, and one that makes the foothills of Colorado potentially the most suitable place in the world for growing, is the lack of humidity. The plants must be kept dry even as the roots are wet."
Not necessarily. The biggest problem with humidity is the resulting mold. But there are many genes for mold resistance to be found in cannabis, and it's a straightforward effort to breed strains that are mold resistant. Even in relatively humid Alabama, it's quite possible to grow plenty of quality cannabis outdoors in the full humidity. Understand that the most critical time where high humidity is not wanted is close to harvest. But in most places suffering from high humidity (at least inland parts of the continental USA, like the Deep South) the air gets a lot drier going into October when the harvest date approaches. Cannabis will grow practically anywhere in the USA, even in Alaska. It's a very versatile plant, and a cannabis business is not confined to using only pre-existing cuttings which may be mold sensitive.
"But for growing tomatoes and food for the employees in the same space would only reduce the space for the cash crop."
Perhaps my statements above were confusing. The main purpose of the forest is to supply biomass for the factory. A secondary function--which could become much more important during emergency scenarios, is to grow food. The forest is a food forest which is primarily planted with perennial fruit and nut bearing plants. As far as tomatoes go, those can/will also be grown outdoors adjacent to the forest, but my point in mentioning those earlier was to point out that this same factory system can be used to grow a variety of crops. It can be used as-is for tomatoes with no modifications to the design, and will grow them profitably year round in any climate where there is suitable biomass for the reactors.
" So, maybe you're going to grow in the eastern part and not in the mountains; but then, where's the forest located?"
We will prefer areas where there is already forest growing, although we'll also be planting a ton of trees/shrubs/etc wherever we go. The forest is something that has to be created, from scratch. It will take time.
"Second is your thought about labor cost in growing marijuana. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but my understanding is that the biggest labor cost in a grow is during and after the harvest. [...] But then there's the harvest, when everybody has to help out. The plants must be cut, and then trimmed appropriately. The trimming is the most labor-intensive step in the production, and one that cannot be skipped or compressed by some technology (indeed you haven't even mentioned it)."
Correct. Trimming is expensive. But which is the better scenario: a constant, steady harvest, with plants being harvested every day all year round, or months of trimmers sitting around doing nothing interspersed with weeks of heavy activity? "Batch" grows are extremely problematic in this regard, compared to a continuous production line that has plants being put in and harvested at the same rate every day.
Don't overlook the growers themselves as a huge cost center--especially when your growers need to be experts in every single detail of the plant's growth, and whose job varies from day to day over the course of the year as the plants change and grow. But when you can segregate your growers to be focused on specific stages of plant growth, not only does that make their jobs much easier and less skilled, but they don't have to be paid as much either. It also gives you a way to train growers by starting them out in certain areas and progressing up to flower, as well as a way to ensure security of the plants. (Newbie growers don't have any access to the plants in late flower.)
I've crunched all the numbers. The system as is will grow MJ profitably at $200/lb. That's more efficient than any other system. I'm also working on a fully automated system for trimming that will drop the overall cost through the floor. Understand this also: the plants do not necessarily have to go through a labor intensive trim. You can get 90% of the results with 10% of the effort using certain trimming methods, especially if your plants are destined for oil extraction, or shredded to be rolled into cigarettes.
"Then the plants must be cured - it must be aged for 4-7 days, drying and then putting in bags on 12 hour or more cycles - until all the remaining/residual water has evaporated out through the buds (which is why you must trim because you don't want it to escape through the spleaf). This also cannot be given short-shrift."
That's something I've spent a lot of time thinking about, and my system is a better way of doing it that saves the trimmers a lot of labor.
"I don't see any part of your plan which accounts for the time and labor in these steps,"
I haven't posted even 5% of the details of how this factory will operate. Were I to write out a full description of every single detail, it would be over 100 pages.
"Lastly, you mention that you're going to make $40 million in order to make someone else a billionaire. Why?"
For several good reasons, not the least of which is, I don't need to make a billion dollars from this factory. I have other legitimate billion dollar ideas. This is just a stepping stone. I want to get in, get my money, and get out ASAP. I don't want to spend the next 10+ years in Colorado focusing on this one business exclusively, when there is so much more to be done elsewhere. I'll do as much as I can with this but in a few years it will be time to move on.
"Surely if you know the art and science, it would only take you a few years, maximum, and possibly only a few grow cycles, to go from a small investment to a medium-sized operation making some serious cash, at which point you could ramp up some more."
There is a lot of risk inherent in that plan, and it won't be as quick as you think. What I need to do is find the right partner who is already established in the industry, who already has a large and stable source of income from the industry, who can quickly finance a prototype to be built, and who already has credibility built up within the industry enabling them to access the large amount of capital necessary to build this factory. It will cost at least $30 million dollars, and the clock is ticking.
"If you are going to make someone else a billion dollars, that person should be bankrolling your entire operation."
Even the largest cannabis entrepreneurs in Colorado don't have $30+ million just laying around to build a factory of this scale. It's going to take some outside investment. It needs to be built as quickly as possible, and I don't mind taking a cut in pay to ensure that happens. I can make money elsewhere, and furthermore, I don't want to be the one attracting all the attention. Let someone else stand in the spotlight. $40M (at minimum) is certainly enough of a payoff to bring me to the next stage in life.
By the way, I only happened to mention all this in passing. It was not and still isn't my plan to ask ZH to invest in this business. But it does occur to me that there may be someone out there reading who does have the kind of capital this business could use, so if that's the case, I'm open to discussing more details with folks who are curious or may be potential investors. Just email me at nathan.klein.17@gmail.com .
"Anyway, that's my two cents."
Thanks for your thoughts. I always appreciate when people point out what they perceive as flaws in my plans, so that I have the opportunity to rethink certain things and know if I'm on the right track or not.
Not sure why you would get any downvotes for this.
Your plan may be worthwhile or a bunch of shit, but taking the time to walk through some of these points is more than you had to do, in any case.
Hopefully you have some contacts out there. Cheers.
How many pounds of tomatoes per plant do you anticipate your system would yield?
It's been a while since I've run the calculations, but it will yield more per plant than an outdoor grow, especially in colder climates, because of the extended growing season inherent in being grown indoors in controlled conditions. Both determinate and indeterminate varieties work well. Based on rough calculations, tomatos could be grown for $5/lb profitably, year in and year out. +/- $1 or so. Not as cheap as a grocery store tomato, but far higher quality, and grown locally all year round as opposed to having to be shipped from halfway across the world.
Actually there are a lot of miracles going on rigt now in AG, I have personally seen people grow tons of food in tiny spaces using aquaponics, new systems that can grow LITERALLY tons of feed that used to take acrea and acres of land in a small warehouse, fine tuned co2 systems + new LED lighting that makes plants explode in growth and costs pennies in power, really it's like a miracle a day.
Malthus can suck it!
Gladius 17.
Great news, you saw the light, and are moving to a state that says pot is legal.
Smart move, just a bit late based on your lamentation regarding government enforcement of federal law - you should have been more proactive, in locating your business where federal law would not be enforced.
Don't be surprised when the feds come knocking at your new grow op in the mile high state.
The least you could have done was to stay in a Holiday Inn. Motel 6 ? Lame.
Tom speaks the truth - take it like a man, and learn from your unfortunate experience, and the wisdom of his words.
If you do, you will be stronger for it
Thank you for your service, but don't use it and some bad decisions on your part to justify being an asshole now.
Be successful, be smart, be willing to accept constructive criticism, and be as successful as you say you can be.
Only person standing in your way - is you.
You - are the only person fighting - you.
Don't be that guy - be a better guy.
Now apologize to Tom for your adolescent outburst, and carry on.
He would be the kind of guy you would want on your six in country.
"Smart move, just a bit late based on your lamentation regarding government enforcement of federal law - you should have been more proactive, in locating your business where federal law would not be enforced."
Everyone sitting on the sidelines knows what's best for me and are full of judgment about what I should or should not be doing. I personally don't know shit, apparently.
"Now apologize to Tom for your adolescent outburst, and carry on."
You're kidding...right?
Gladius 17.
Men can apologize for bad manners, bad attitude, bad judgement, and carry on.
Whiney little perma adolescents cannot see beyond the fact that they are RIGHT, 100% of the time.
Based on your postings relating to your brush with the law, no, you don't know shit, and you got poor judgement combined with piss poor OPSEC.
You obviously got several more decades of ripening and seasoning ahead of you.
Good luck with your large ego.
"Whiney little perma adolescents cannot see beyond the fact that they are RIGHT, 100% of the time."
Hey dipshit,
When morons are jumping to ridiculous conclusions about things, making wild and totally inaccurate judgment calls when they don't even know 5% of the facts of the situation, I have no qualms about correcting them forcefully--especially when said morons want to make it their business to give me all kinds of unwanted, unasked for, and useless advice, coupled with insults, which is a waste of their time and mine because it is totally unrelated to the actual facts of the situation.
Really. Mind your own business. Pull the log out of your own eye before worrying about the speck of dust in mine.
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State laws are different. (You are aware of that.)
Transporting across State Lines is a Federal Crime. (Are you aware of that?)
The Marijuana Laws and the Drug War is IMMORAL. That is a FACT which I will not dispute.
But they are. They exist.
But when you "Fail To Appear" then you are fleeing from prosecution. That is another crime.
When you cross state lines to do that then it becomes a Federal Offense.
Yes I did not know the particulars. Now I do.
But are you seeing a pattern of criminal behavior here?
Four Months? You got off light.
They could have buried you. They still might.
"But are you seeing a pattern of criminal behavior here?"
Yes--emanating from Washington D.C.
I am not a criminal, any more than my great grandfather Edward Frost was when he illegally fled England under an assumed name during the mid 1600s, to escape persecution as a dissenter to the Church of England. Mr. Frost was the progenitor of most of the Frosts in America, including such well known people as David Frost, and less well known people like my great grandmother Bertie Frost, who was a hell of a good person. If he had not done what he did, I might not be standing here today.
I am under no obligation to obey immoral and unjust laws, that are in fact illegal according to the supposed highest law of this land--the U.S. Constitution--which I swore an oath to protect and defend.
And Thomas Jefferson agrees with me.
I have the God given right to protect and defend myself against those who wish to persecute me for simply trying to live my life on my own terms, without harming anyone in the process.
Whose side are you on, anyway?
tall tom suffers from a bit of stockholm syndrome.
Tall Tom suffers from a lot of asshole syndrome.
Keep biting the hand that would feed you.
Edward Frost didn't get on the webz, and trumpet his opinions to the entire fucking planet, either.
OPSEC, dumb ass, OPSEC.
You go ahead and hide under your bed. I know what OPSEC is and I do practice it. But let me explain something to you in case you aren't aware. Even with perfect OPSEC they can still hunt you down and find you. It happened to me. I never used the internet from home. I didn't have any utility bills in my name. I never told anyone of my involvement with MJ. I never had any visitors to my house. I had no social life whatsoever. Guess what....they got me anyway. At this point in time I'm done with hiding. I will express my opinion online and if one person anywhere is positively influenced by it, it's worth it. If the words I speak can help save one life then I did my job. My own personal safety is not the only thing that's important in this world.
One more thing: No, they didn't have the internet back in Edmund Frost's day. (Got that wrong; oops. He also wasn't David Frost's great grandpappy. I was thinking of someone else.) But he did indeed speak his opinions loudly and boldly...which is why his life was in danger. That's how the Frost's are, at least the ones descended from him. There was even a book written about these Frosts in the early 1900s which shows they are all the same. Like my great grandmother for instance: she saw a clear difference between good and evil, and she was never afraid to speak truth to power. It's too bad more folks aren't as brave. The world would be a much better place.
Gladius,
don't let Tom get you too upset...i've read him sing the praises of weed many a time in the past...the Hedge attracts folks of a fairly 'conservative' bent, and the impulse is often to reduce a thing to its simplest terms and dispense judgement with extreme prejudice -- hell, i often do the same.
whatever the case, my heart goes out to you...i hope they leave you alone, my friend. but, for whatever reason, you've provoked someone down there, and they went straight at you. yeah, dude, you're going to have to leave gadsden...and don't look back. i've got nothing against the town -- been there many times and stayed at that holiday inn on many occasions (the hospital there was one of my clients). nice lake you got up there, too. but, yeah, you've pissed off somebody with some juice, and it would behoove you to spread your wings and fly to a place more accommodating.
looks like we missed each other by two years at keesler...i was there when they were building that big casino, back in 1999. i had a system for blackjack -- worked like a charm, till things took a turn. seems there was a flaw in my system, and its revelation cured me of gambling forever -- they felt so badly for me that i was given a 200 dollar steak dinner...that was at pirate's bay. worst -- and most expensive -- steak i've ever ate.
as for your weed growing ambitions, perhaps it's worth entertaining a radically different approach. instead of goals so grand they surely promise to disappoint, and furthermore in deference to the migration of your governing philosophy (specifically, that the modern amoican way is profoundly fucked), why not concentrate on making the highest quality product for the lowest acceptable cost? if you go into business with the object in mind of making a million dollars, you will most likely fail. if, however, you endeavor to run a vibrant and ongoing enterprise by providing a good or service of exceptional quality, then you will most likely succeed and you will as a consequence net your million dollars. thing is, people will pay for something that they want -- especially if it's better than the options available. but, unfortunately, they won't pay simply to advance an individual's ambitions. i may be wrong...you may have developed something siginificant -- that's not my contention. it's rather one of emphasis; insofar as you seem to be placing it on quantity rather than quality; and that, to janus, represents amorica's most distressing deficiency. amorica proclaims that bigger is necessarily better...i disagree.
and it wasn't the weed that woke you up...people everywhere of every level of sobriety are starting to catch on -- it's an astonishing phenomenon.
best of luck, my friend...i mean it. i know you think i'm an ass -- but i'm not all bad.
here's a song from janus & Johnny Cash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIFQkbhTIGk
janus
Thank you for your kind words, Janus.
"as for your weed growing ambitions, perhaps it's worth entertaining a radically different approach. instead of goals so grand they surely promise to disappoint, and furthermore in deference to the migration of your governing philosophy (specifically, that the modern amoican way is profoundly fucked), why not concentrate on making the highest quality product for the lowest acceptable cost?"
That's exactly what I'm doing. That's exactly why my system is so profoundly good. Despite the millions of dollars currently being made in Colorado by the established players, the weed is overall low quality, and the best stuff is outrageous expensive. My system brings the cost of growing A+ quality weed down from $1000+ a pound to less than $200 a pound. That's only the beginning. Nobody else has a system like this.
" if you go into business with the object in mind of making a million dollars, you will most likely fail. "if, however, you endeavor to run a vibrant and ongoing enterprise by providing a good or service of exceptional quality, then you will most likely succeed and you will as a consequence net your million dollars. "
That's exactly what I'm doing.
" thing is, people will pay for something that they want -- especially if it's better than the options available. but, unfortunately, they won't pay simply to advance an individual's ambitions."
You're preaching to the choir bro! I'm not looking to get rich just to get rich. I don't give a damn about wallowing in luxury. Like Sam Walton, I will drive an old Chevy truck til the day I die. My grandfather once bragged that he could live on $20 a week. I share the same philosophy. I want to make the world a better place, through industry. Making millions of dollars is simply an inevitable consequence of doing so, that will enable me to do even bigger things in the future. I've got a laundry list of million and billion dollar business ideas that will work and succeed. This first business is the stepping stone to those dreams.
First of all...
"Before I started smoking weed at the age of 24, I believed 9/11 was the work of Al Qaeda, and I would have laughed in your face had you told me the WTC fell due to explosive demolition."
Very astute observation. That's why it is illegal. Plus the fact that the money doesn't flow to those in power... (that's changing)
Second...
You need to find better friends. Stay away from those with drug problems. You are 100 times smarter than the idiots that surround you for the time being and thus have nothing at all to learn from them. (you already know this... I think that's what Tom was trying to get through to you)
Third...
Unless you have found a way to splice the THC producing genes into corn (in which case please give me a call! ;) DO NOT grow pot illegally anywhere. When this gigantic freakazoid shitshow ends JAIL IS THE LAST PLACE you will want to be.
And lastly...
Figure out something to do that is currently profitable and legal (not many choices there I'm afraid)... focus on it... do it... and you will succeed. Things may be tough right now but better days will be ahead of you with the better decisions that you will make from here on in.
"Figure out something to do that is currently profitable and legal (not many choices there I'm afraid)... focus on it... do it... and you will succeed."
With all due respect--I don't need any life advice. You know what I need, more than anything? For people to leave me the fuck alone so I can live my life how I choose to live it. I already know what I need to do to succeed. And I will do so, regardless.
"DO NOT grow pot illegally anywhere."
To hell with that noise. I'm growing pot, regardless. End of discussion. If I didn't grow pot illegally, I wouldn't be on the cusp of making millions of dollars in a few short years. Let the sheep follow the herd; I simply don't have time for that.
I wish you luck then... you will certainly need it.
P.S. You still need better friends if you want to be left the fuck alone...
Bro....you are making assumptions. I haven't went and visited anyone since I came back to this state. Nobody has been over to my place. I've been in hiding for the past year. Friends had nothing to do with this. It's my enemies that are the problem.
You are 100% batshit crazy, dear lord I have not read such a series of posts like yours in my life. Good luck with that, you of all people are going to need it.
yeah, get back into the bars and blow your $$ on the booze !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
/s F that Glad, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, and 25 other states allow Med MJ Cannabis, all the so-called "Christians" are shitting thei pants as they begin to realize the bible instructed them to grow cannabis from Genesis on ... and they were dumb enough to ignore that instruction and look at condemnation as millions of Americans were arrested and imprisoned for God's instructions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like the RINO's, CINO's (Christian in Name Only) are seeing NO support from the youth as their BS condemnations upon others who do not believe as they do veer away from such assinine ideas ....
God please give the CINO's wisdom to forgive themselves for such blindness and stupidity
Alabama -> Michigan -> Alabama and not a loser?
I have said on occasion that my grandfather passed his IQ test by moving out of Kentucky.
Unless you have tangible opportunities in Alabama you are a loser to even be there.
(I worked for a NASA contractor in Huntsville, so I'm not just blowing smoke)
I'm from Alabama, jackass. This is my home. Excuse me for thinking I might return to my home state to live and prosper.
If it was legal to toss you into an oven, would you be ok with it?
Time to stop.
Have you ever thought about writing country songs? Just a thought...
If the gov could control the weather (which they cant, except for medieval type shit like shooting bombs that emit hydrophillic gas into the sky), then we woudlnt be in this mess. I feel sorry for what has happened to you, but please try to read some actual science and math.
Weather is a chaotic system that is dependent on so many variables, that even today weather prediction past about a week or so is impossible to accurately predict above 30%. If we cant even predict weather, what makes you think we can control an event that is dependent on trillions of cubic feetof air, water, greenhouse gases, their temperatures, vectors of movement, etc ad infinitum? Do you have any idea of the energy expeditures it would take to theoretically control the weather above Chicago? More energy than the Unites States consumes in a year, perhaps a decade.
Please stop building constructs in your mind and assuming its the truth. It takes long hard years of real work to prove even something as simple as the physics behind freezing water.
" I feel sorry for what has happened to you, but please try to read some actual science and math."
From approved and accredited sources, right?
I know plenty about science and math.
"Weather is a chaotic system that is dependent on so many variables, that even today weather prediction past about a week or so is impossible to accurately predict above 30%."
If the jet stream can be redirected, then the results of that redirection can be predicted. This isn't about weather prediction--it's weather manipulation.
"If we cant even predict weather, what makes you think we can control an event that is dependent on trillions of cubic feetof air, water, greenhouse gases, their temperatures, vectors of movement, etc ad infinitum?"
How does a 140 lb martial arts expert control a 300 lb attacker?
Do you think I'm proposing the government has a bunch of huge fan blades up in the atmosphere to blow the wind in a certain direction?
I don't know for sure (just as you definitely don't either), but I believe manipulation of the ionosphere's electrostatic charge can be used to redirect the jet stream. And where the jet stream goes, its temperature is manipulated. If it goes up into high latitudes, it picks up cold air. If it goes to lower latitudes, it picks up warm air.
"Do you have any idea of the energy expeditures it would take to theoretically control the weather above Chicago? More energy than the Unites States consumes in a year, perhaps a decade."
Maybe your theory isn't as complete and explanatory as you'd wish it to be.
"It takes long hard years of real work to prove even something as simple as the physics behind freezing water."
But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to observe water and conclude that it freezes when the temperature gets cold enough.
The article being discussed is about the manipulation of fuel-oil supplies, not your thread-jacking, off-topic, bullshit existence.
"The article being discussed is about the manipulation of fuel-oil supplies"
Which I addressed in the first post....and received many downvotes, which indicates more explanation was required.
If you don't want a real discussion about real issues, feel free to wander on over to the Huffington Post. This message needs to be heard.
"This message needs to be heard."
Then go start it on another low-intelligence website, by all means.
You are dead right about the path of the jetstream being the primary determinant of global climate... and it is changing... but not from CO2.
The 1 to 2 miles of ice that covered all of North America during the last ice ages (dropping sea level by 400 feet) came from the air circulation above the warm waters of the Pacific Ocean (moisture source) while Beringia (Alaska etc.) was ICE free during the last several ice ages. It's all about the change from zonal (west to east) to meridional (north to south/south to north) jetstream airflow.
Good little scientific study from Mt. Logan here >
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/277/5330/1294.abstract
Also the same air flows have recently been found in the Antarctic record.
http://astronomynow.com/2015/07/17/diminishing-solar-activity-may-bring-...
https://blaiseryan.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/fight-club-quote-%E2%80%9Cit...
Shit's illegal don't mess with it unless you want the unfair repurcussions. Same way dropping the speed limit to 35 on a 1 mile stretch of road that is 50mph 10 miles north and 10 miles south of such said stretch, it's bullshit but I know I'm breaking the law when I don't slow down and I'm not too surprised when I get ticketed from time to time.
drugs are biyaaaad
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zero, I just spit water all over my keyboard. Thanks! All though there may be more than just a bong involved. Um, ever hear of el nino?
END THE FED
el nino? Isn't that The Baby Jesus? And he DID control the weather...if in fact they are one and the same.
"The eastern half, on the other hand, is where all the agriculture is."
If there is a level of retard beyond "full", I think you have found it.
Perhaps you could explain to me why I'm wrong, O enlightened one.
The majority of SUSTAINABLE agriculture (and population) in the USA is east of the Rockies. Obviously I am not referring to the gallons of water that are being pumped out of depleted reservoirs and dried up rivers in the west to grow few almonds or grapes. California is totally and completely fucked and would be even without the weather manipulation. I really don't blame TPTB for taking their water and sending it up to Wisconsin.
As I already told you, the western half has been written off. It's undefendable. That's why all the water (and mild weather) was sent eastward.
It's documented , weather modification is real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQKUd2KE0a0
Uhh, if you know ANYTHING about agriculture, you would know that California grows the majority of fruits and vegetables, and the VAST majority of nuts. California grows more than twice as much as the next highest (also western) ag state: http://www.stuffaboutstates.com/agriculture/index.html
Also
>huge mountainous area
>undefendable
To infinity (retard) and beyond!
Besides Mexicans, who can invade California? Zee Germans???
Not sustainable. Not a refutation.
The water comes from snowmelt, not aquifers. You are thinking of the midwest.
If you mean that it isn't sustainable in the sense that California is in a drought most of the time, and that the time since it has been settled it has been unusually wet, then sure.
"Uhh, if you know ANYTHING about agriculture, you would know that California grows the majority of fruits and vegetables, and the VAST majority of nuts. "
Yes, there are a lot of fruits and nuts in California, I'll grant you.
"California grows more than twice as much as the next highest (also western) ag state:"
Are you talking about individual states? I know you're not talking about the rest of the Eastern half of the country combined. Who gives a damn about fruits and nuts? Where does all the bread come from?
Again: what California does is not sustainable. You are already on the verge of a total collapse due to your completely unsustainable agriculture. You don't have enough water to grow all that stuff, and when the collapse comes, I feel sorry for anyone stupid enough to be stuck in that state.
">huge mountainous area
>undefendable
To infinity (retard) and beyond!"
When Russia and China invade the U.S., they're not going to do it from the coasts. They will cut the U.S. in half in a pincer movement, from south through Mexico, and from the north as well, across Canada.
When the country is cut in half, which half do you think is going to be more defensible? The half where all the people, agriculture, and industry is? Or the half that is largely empty except for California, whose largest natural resource is all the faggots and dipshits?
Go back and have another look at that picture of the USA at night. Where are all the lights? On the eastern half of the country, beyond the continental divide. In fact you can clearly see where the mountains are in that picture because all the lights are to the east of it. When the country gets cut in half, Y'ALL will be totally fucked. TPTB are not going to waste precious resources on people and a state (California) that are going to end up conquered by the Chinese before it's over with.
You've been written off. Deal with it.
Great - the Chinks and the Rooskis are gonna get all of the useless eaters in the east, the real winter weather once the USA climate control aircraft are shut down, and the Monsanto GMO wheat.
Good on them, they can have all of that, PLUS Washington DC, Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Philadelphia, and New Yawk, too. Not to mention most of the Free Shit Army, gangs, and other worthless societal debris.
All of the shit to them, and the rest of the country goes to the rational, sensible folks.
California - get rid of illegal immigration, broom off some lib tards, and you got a pretty nice state.
Last time I looked, mountains were ideally defensible ( Afghanistan, motherfucker! ), not to mention where precipitation falls to recharge snowpack to run rivers for hydro and growing crops.
And, where are you headed to by your own admission ? Colorado. LIB TARD California wannabe.
Gawd, you are brilliant on the webz today.
"When Russia and China invade the U.S."
Jesus, you just keep topping yourself. It's almost humorous.
Everything you have said in this thread is laughable. EVERY SINGLE THING.
Look (moron). No-one is going to be invading a nuclear armed nation, ever. Period.
"Look (moron). No-one is going to be invading a nuclear armed nation, ever. Period."
Really? Explain your reasoning, please.
Are you saying war is now obsolete?
Yours is an extremely foolish and dangerous way of thinking.
Remember World War I, aka the "war to end all wars"? How did that turn out?
It didn't have any nukes flying, because no-one had any nukes.
We have had the longest period of peace between world powers in human history since nukes were developed. The only kinds of wars we can engage in are proxy wars and economic wars. That's it.
But you are about 150 IQ points shy of being able to understand that. Never met anyone with a negative IQ before. Interesting. Seems like we could create some sort of god-like computational engine based off of going off of the opposite of whatever you say.
"It didn't have any nukes flying, because no-one had any nukes."
Right. "It's different this time."
"We have had the longest period of peace between world powers in human history since nukes were developed."
Yeah, it was peaceful alright, as long as you lived in America or one of its satellite states in Western Europe. Other people in different parts of the world may have different views.
"The only kinds of wars we can engage in are proxy wars and economic wars. That's it."
Bullshit. We are on the verge of world war 3. Pull your head out of your ass.
"But you are about 150 IQ points shy of being able to understand that."
So it takes an IQ of 290 in order to understand your reasoning? That's a problem, I think. 99.999999999999999% of humans don't have such an IQ. So what you're really saying is the vast majority of humankind are too stupid to understand that massive world wars are obsolete? Somehow, that's not a very comforting thought.
"Never met anyone with a negative IQ before."
Me either....until now.
"Seems like we could create some sort of god-like computational engine based off of going off of the opposite of whatever you say."
Good luck with your philosophy.
California grows a lot of food.
But Michigan grows a lot too and is in better shape for water.
https://www.michfb.com/MI/Ag_Ed_and_Leadership/Ag_Facts/Michigan_Agricul...
How about sharing your top 3 links to support what you're saying?
If I attempted to give you only three links as being some kind of proof, then you would be justified in writing off everything I've said. This information comes from the preponderance of an entire lifetime's worth of learning. I've got hundreds of gigabytes worth of web pages (many of them ZH articles) that I've read and sifted through and gradually come to these conclusions. There is nobody out there who's written a web article that's said exactly what I'm telling you here. It's just something I know, from having made observations. In other words, I am the source. If something I've written seems hokey then feel free to argue against me.
Here is something else I can tell you which nobody else really knows. Have you ever heard it said that 10% of the population is the critical mass needed for an idea to go from the fringe to wide acceptance? In other words, there is a small percent of the population which buys into an idea, and when there is enough of them, the idea spreads like wildfire. Allow me to expound on this a bit.
The actual number is more like 11.1%. That number represents 1/3 of 1/3, or 1/9 of the population. Humanity divides itself into thirds over contentious issues. When people are evenly divided over an issue, then 1/3 will have one viewpoint, 1/3 will believe the opposite, and 1/3 will be stuck in the middle, not sure. It's been observed time and time again throughout history. There is even references to this in the Bible. Satan was said to have fallen from heaven with 1/3 of the angels. There is a real meaning behind that statement.
Furthermore, each third can be divided into thirds itself. Let's take "liberals vs conservatives" as an illustrative, although not perfect example. In this example 1/3 of Americans are liberals, 1/3 are conservative, and 1/3 are stuck in the middle. If we also break each group into thirds, we find that 1/3 of liberals are hard left, 1/3 are moderate, and 1/3 are even more moderate. Same thing with conservatives. Then in the middle we have a 1/3 that is completely apolitical (going whichever the wind blows), 1/3 that are apolitical but sort of see the liberal's point, and 1/3 that are apolitical but sort of see the conservative point. Again: not a perfect example, but you sort of see what I mean.
Now look at the number of up and downvotes I've gotten for my posts here. Look at the ratio of one to another. If I was a complete lunatic who knew nothing, you might see (for example) 90 downvotes, and only tiny handful of upvotes. But the ratio is much higher than that. Indeed, it's more like 2/9 (or 22%; at least at the time of this post) who agree with my observations. That is proof that what I've said is not completely batshit crazy. A significant number of ZH'ers do agree with what I've said; two thirds of one third. Another 11% and it's a solid opinion on equal footing with the doubters. Another 11% and we've got a foothold into the moderates.
I don't know for a fact that weather is being manipulated. But then again, I don't know for a fact that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian, or Michelle Obama is a transvestite. But the evidence does seem to be leaning that way. And I didn't just make up these ideas on my own, completely independent. My ideas come from the rest of humanity. From ZH, and from many other similar web sites. I spend every day reading not just articles, but mainly the comments sections, to hear what people are saying. I've read literally millions of comments from millions of different people of all walks of life in order to reach the conclusions I've reached. Take that for whatever it's worth.
"A significant number of ZH'ers do agree with what I've said"
A significant number of ZH'ers have mental health issues.
Zero Hedge. The New Usenet.
I don't think you're batshit crazy.
However, many (most?) ZH'ers like to do their own investigation/validation/verification of things. Surely you have come across some links that are REALLY valuable. If someone were to type in "Government Weather Modification" then you WOULD find a bunch of batshit crazy stuff.
Plant some seeds to help those with an open mind get started.
"However, many (most?) ZH'ers like to do their own investigation/validation/verification of things."
As it should be.
"Surely you have come across some links that are REALLY valuable."
Sure. Countless thousands of them....buried among countless tens or hundreds of thousands of other links that also were valuable.Where to begin?
If you mean "really valuable" as in "expresses the exact same thoughts that I outlined for you in these posts", no, there is no such thing. Nobody is in possession of the entire truth of things. I read between the lines, picking out what is useful, and discarding the rest. I do not copy others' thoughts verbatim.
If you think I'm wrong in my beliefs, then argue with me and explain why you think I'm wrong. Then I will consider your argument and post a rebuttal. It is a complete waste of time my to try dig through countless saved web pages to try and find something that would convince you...because there is no one or two or 10 links that I could post that would prove anything. My thoughts are my own and they come from the preponderance of countless millions of sources. I can't even access the hard drive my journal is stored on, because the police ruined that drive when the dumb asses had it in their hands, as explained above.
you have some interesting ideas, gladius.
so, how did you come to the conclusion that western us is undefendable, or at least that tptb have concluded that?
if there is a ww3 in the near future, seems to me that it's the usa that will be the instigator.
the balance of power is shifting to the brics coalition and away from the west, so the brics have no incentive to start some shit, time is on their side. i see no reason for the brics to start a war, they've been very patient with usa aggression, and have been trying to temper their responses to usa aggression, to avoid a war.
so why would the owners of the usa start a war, knowing the western half of the country will be lost?
"the balance of power is shifting to the brics coalition and away from the west, so the brics have no incentive to start some shit, time is on their side. "
Damn right. There is really only one item on the list for the BRICS:
1. Get your shit together to manage when the US and the EU topple over.
"so, how did you come to the conclusion that western us is undefendable, or at least that tptb have concluded that?"
Very good question.
I started by asking myself this question: if I were going to invade the USA, how would I do it?
Invasion from the coasts would be a fool's errand. They're too well defended for that. The way to invade the USA is by cutting it in half in a pincer movement, from the south and the north.
The Chinese will invade from the south with millions of troops landing in Mexico and marching northward. The Russians will invade from largely undefended Canada, across the arctic.
When the USA is cut in half, which half is easier to defend: west or east?
Really, "half" is not even the right word; west of the Rockies is more like 1/3 of the country. So which side of the Rockies should TPTB pin their hopes on; the 1/3 containing California (land of fruits and nuts) and the other relatively unpopulated western states who lack resources, or the heavily populated east with 2/3 of the land area, people, and lots of natural resources...where all the grain is grown?
"if there is a ww3 in the near future, seems to me that it's the usa that will be the instigator."
Indeed.
"so why would the owners of the usa start a war, knowing the western half of the country will be lost?"
Hope for the best; prepare for the worst.
Really, why would TPTB start this war? It's really stupid. But then again, so is sitting on their asses waiting for the horde of disgruntled citizens to march down their palaces and hang them from nearby oak trees. World war is the better option for them than the alternative of civil war and revolution. And if they're going to start a war, they're definitely going to try to win it. That will require us to lose some territory, if and when the continental US is invaded. So what land should be given up, and where should the resources be concentrated to give the best chance of winning?
Does anyone realistically expect that the USA will be able to defend and keep Alaska? That will be the first territory we lose.
Of course, we are going to lose the war anyway, no matter what steps they take to try and win it.
thanks for the explanation.
it's true, the usa neocons are pushing for war, and their list of allies is growing shorter.
but there's too many variables, too many unknowns, to make a good guess as to how things will play out.
your idea about a chinese invasion via mexico seems a stretch - it would be no quick jaunt through belgium to circumvent a maginot line, rather, it would entail invading mexico across a very wide ocean, and then heading north. i'm not sure i can see that happening.
When the USA becomes a failed state(Between George and Barry, we are getting there at breath taking speed),
its entirely plausible that Russian and Chinese show up to "restore order"
First Moutainous regions are far more defendable than High Plains, where Tanks and troops can roam freely. Mountains are a Natural Barrier to Military Operations.
From a Tactical viewpoint the Western USA is the easiest region to defend due to the Rocky Mountains and the Pacific Coastal Ranges. You have not attended a War College, have you?
Finally the Ogallala Aquifer is almost depleted and the Midwest USA will die as a result.
The rainfall deficit is far too much for any alleviation of the problem in our lifetimes...or many lifetimes to come. Redirecting the weather will have no profound affect or impact..
http://water.usgs.gov/edu/gwdepletion.html
From the WaPo
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/10/where-the-...
About 27 percent of U.S. irrigated farmland depends on the Ogallala aquifer, and it's a key region for livestock, corn, wheat, and soy. But it's slowly getting depleted. In some counties, the water table is dropping by as much as two feet per year. And, as David Biello notes, once the Ogallala gets drained, it would take about 6,000 years to recharge with rainfall.
You ought to do some actual research instead of making up total bullshit and posting it.
I grow weary of dealing with children posting here while posing as adults.
"First Moutainous regions are far more defendable than High Plains, where Tanks and troops can roam freely. Mountains are a Natural Barrier to Military Operations."
The invasion of the USA won't come from the coast. It will come from the south and north, across Mexico and Canada.
"From a Tactical viewpoint the Western USA is the easiest region to defend due to the Rocky Mountains and the Pacific Coastal Ranges."
And how will you defend it without the people and natural resources you need to fight a war?
Where are all the people located in the USA....east or west? Where's all the industry?
Where's all the greenery? Which is easier to hide in, when there are satellites overhead watching your every move: a rocky desert, or a trail through the forest?
You don't think the east has mountains? Ever heard of the Appalachian mountains?
"You have not attended a War College, have you?"
Nathan Bedford Forrest was my first cousin several times removed, if that counts for anything. James I and James II of Scotland were my great grandfathers. My white European ancestors come from every house of royalty in Europe, prior to the 1600s, when the majority of them moved here to conquer this land. (None later than the 1760s.) My third great grandparents on my mom's paternal line were both part Cherokee, and both evaded the Trail of Tears by hiding in the mountains of northeast Alabama. My ancestors were survivors, and I myself know a thing or two about a thing or two.
"Finally the Ogallala Aquifer is almost depleted and the Midwest USA will die as a result."
1) Which part of the nation is facing more imminent water depletion: California, or the midwest? Will the Ogallala aquifer be more or less likely than California's various dried up rivers and aquifers to survive the next 5-10 years?
2) How does the abundant and regular rainfall this year (and actually, over the past several years) change the equation?
"The rainfall deficit is far too much for any alleviation of the problem in our lifetimes...or many lifetimes to come. Redirecting the weather will have no profound affect or impact.."
Except it did. As already explained, the weather this year was fantastic for growing crops. A perfect year for agriculture.
"You ought to do some actual research instead of making up total bullshit and posting it."
I don't make up bullshit. My entire life has been spent doing research. Try again.
"I grow weary of dealing with children posting here while posing as adults."
I grow weary with assholes who can't think, but still insist of being insulting assholes.
Gladius Michigan is going to legalize pot, probably pretty soon since the Republicans are on board.
Oregon just legalized too I believe.
So why Colorado where there is already a lot of competition?
Just curious, I'm in Michigan and my husband says I should start working on a grow op. Not because we use it, we don't, but because it is a high value cash crop and I have some experience in horticulture.