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US Flies B-52 Bomber Near China Sandcastles: "Get Away From Our Islands!"

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The Pentagon was pretty proud of itself when, late last month, Washington sailed a guided missile destroyer by Subi Reef, one of Beijing’s man-made islands in the South Pacific. 

The “freedom of navigation” exercise was designed to prove to China that the US wouldn't be deterred from sailing through the disputed waters near the Spratlys even as Beijing claims the islands it’s built atop reefs represent new sovereign territory. 

To be sure, the Obama administration really didn’t have much of a choice. America’s regional allies have become extremely unnerved with regard to the islands and so it was ultimately incumbent upon The White House to green light the pass-by to avoid giving the appearance that the US will no longer stand with its “friends” against “aggression.”

And while the PLA didn't surround the USS Lassen nor fire upon it, Beijing was livid and Admiral Wu Shengli went so far as to tell US chief of naval operations Admiral John Richardson that this needs to stop now unless the US wants to go to war.

Late this afternoon, reports surfaced that the US has now flown a B-52 bomber over or least “near” the islands. Here’s Reuters with more:

A U.S. B-52 strategic bomber flew over Chinese manmade islands in the South China Sea recently and was contacted by Chinese ground controllers but continued its mission undeterred, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

 

"We conduct B-52 flights in international air space in that part of the world all the time," Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook told a briefing. "My understanding is there was one B-52 flight, I'm not even sure the date on it, but there was an effort made by Chinese ground controllers to reach out to that aircraft and that aircraft continued its mission. ... Nothing changed."

And here's a more colorful account from The Hill:

The United States flew two B-52 bombers over the weekend near man-made islands constructed by China in the South China Sea, a U.S. official tells The Hill, in a clear challenge to China’s territorial claims to the area.

 

The bombers made one pass within 12 nautical miles of the islands, the official said, in what the military refers to as a "freedom of navigation" operation.

 

During the operation, the Chinese military radioed the bombers, telling them to "get away from our islands." The bombers did not comply, according to the U.S. official. 

 

Questioned by The Hill about the official’s account, Pentagon press secretary Peter Cook on Thursday confirmed that a B-52 incident with China near the islands took place, but declined to say when.

 

Pentagon spokesman Navy Cmdr. Bill Urban later said the B-52s did not get within 12 miles of the man-made islands, and called the flight part of "routine operations."

As The Hill goes on to note, and as we reported earlier this week, this comes as China sends J-11BH/BHS fighter jets to Woody Island, south of Hainan in what one could be forgiven for believing is an attempt to discourage US military flyovers. 

US military flyover like the one described above.

So there you have it, the latest escalation in what frankly is becoming an increasingly dangerous (and largely uneccesary) game of chicken.

We'd also note that the US has expressed its intention to conduct the destroyer operations twice per quarter, so one wonders how many times the B-52s will be flying over "near" the islands.

 

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Thu, 11/12/2015 - 17:57 | 6784107 alexcojones
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I'm former USAF (68-72) and these AF wack jobs will get us in a shooting war

I'm NOT the only US Veteran Rootin' for Putin.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:00 | 6784120 Pinto Currency
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Simply delivering more Western central bank gold by air.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:01 | 6784126 The Pope
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Hot Lava (The B-52's, 1980)

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NuV-cCuK2A

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:28 | 6784243 Money Counterfeiter
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Fucking Zionist sociopaths.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:40 | 6784273 TeamDepends
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Major T. J. "King" Kong: Well, boys, we got three engines out, we got more holes in us than a horse trader's mule, the radio is gone and we're leaking fuel and if we was flying any lower why we'd need sleigh bells on this thing... but we got one little budge on them Chinks. At this height why they might harpoon us but they dang sure ain't gonna spot us on no radar screen!

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:46 | 6784304 NidStyles
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Not sure why the US wants to be in that territory so bad. What's in that part of that ocean that is that important? From everything I know about that area it's a dead zone, the winds go in circles, so there is nothing really there. 

 

 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:02 | 6784350 TBT or not TBT
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If bammy had any balls we'd have warships parked in China's self declared private patch of ocean.  Freedom of navigation of the seas, bitchez.  It's what the US Navy does.  

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:12 | 6784369 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Yep, another “brilliant” propaganda campaign from the degenerate quota hires at langley and the pentagram.

Mock them, call them sandcastles, pretend like they don't matter, then start WWIII over them.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:27 | 6784439 TBT or not TBT
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The geriatric monsters running the communist party in China don't like to lose face, so you may have a point.  The sneering tactics will make it rougher on them to climb down, but climb down they will have to.   If the US steps down, that's a pretty ominous signal for our future.  

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 20:45 | 6784630 bid the soldier...
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ha ha ha ha ha ha 

The geriatric monsters running the communist party in China 

Dude'o'rama

So you think that wisdom comes at 12 years of age  --  the first time you coax some semen to pass through your urethra into the new tube sock mom just bought you.

Ain't that how wisdom cum to you?

You're an idiot.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 21:02 | 6784741 Keyser
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What's in that part of that ocean that is that important? 

Oil, next question... 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 23:28 | 6785121 bid the soldier...
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I think that, too

Today there's jeering at 'peak oil'

as a gazillion supertankers wait to unload in Galveston

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 03:02 | 6785512 the kings whore
Fri, 11/13/2015 - 03:38 | 6785551 bid the soldier...
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America WAS just the country to do it.

Now it's a has been.  It's Norma Desmond Killing as many earthlings as possible.

and Putin is Dorothy about to pour a bucket of water on her and melt her once and for all.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 11:15 | 6786446 Surviver22
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This is how would war between Russia and America look like..
http://motivationdose.com/alive-after-the-fall/

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:34 | 6787237 bid the soldier...
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bad link

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 00:09 | 6785238 HolyfieldsOtherEar
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I don't understand all the China-loving on Zero Hedge. Yes, the US is an aggressive hegemonic power, but China is greedily snatching territory wherever it thinks it can get away with it -- and China has no tradition of democracy or meaningful constitutional rule. None of us should be hornswoggled into welcoming a world where China is top dog.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 03:40 | 6785554 bid the soldier...
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I suppose you've never had authentic egg foo young.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 03:35 | 6785548 silvermail
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" Freedom of navigation of the seas, bitchez.  It's what the US Navy does".

Okay, but what does the United States military aircraft in the sky sovereign Syria?
What the has legitimate grounds to the US Air Force were in the airspace of Syria?

 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:39 | 6784461 cougar_w
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"Not sure why"

Oil.

Besides it's not the US wants to be there, it's the Chinese. This is them trying to look important. And the oil. I don't imagine the oil is very easily accessable though or Shell would have been in there 20 years ago.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 02:19 | 6785458 Tall Tom
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Did not see your post before I responded.

 

And you are correct. .except that Shell is Norwegian and North Sea.

 

This is Exxon territory.

 

It is not USA territory and not Chinese territory according to Exxon.

 

Forget the facade of Nation States. The corporations run them.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 03:39 | 6785553 silvermail
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Russian missiles could at any time to remind Washington that there is national sovereignty.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 05:42 | 6785643 EddieLomax
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Shell is Anglo-Dutch and they go after oil anywhere on the planet where they can get it, although I'd expect Exxon to be here first with the location.  StatOil is the Norwegian oil company, although they are not restricted to Norwegian waters either.

As for the flights and cruises from the US military, good on them, either people have a right to freedom of navigation there, or they don't, and there are a lot of commenters on here talking total humbug when it comes to freedom, apparently its fine for the Chinese to claim a large stretch of ocean as theirs but bad if the US disagrees and sails right through it. 

The US were not aquiring a new stretch of territory, or enforcing their will on another nation, instead they were doing one of the all too rare things today, the right thing in ensuring freedom of navigation, personally they have my full support when they do that.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 21:36 | 6784836 consider me gone
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Really? You don't know why the US is doing this? Wow.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 21:36 | 6784837 consider me gone
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Really? You don't know why the US is doing this? Wow.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 02:11 | 6785449 Tall Tom
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OIL...NidStyles...OIL.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:47 | 6784306 knukles
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While Pentagon press secretary Peter Cook on Thursday confirmed that President Dudley O'Moore had injured his right testicle when swinging his putter angrily at a chipmunk.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:48 | 6784311 NidStyles
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Fuck that guy is coordinated like a drunk retard clown shoe. 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:08 | 6784368 Anonymous User
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Fuck that. Better stay up to date with the latest Miley Cyrus stupid acts, or something:

 

http://www.thepornster.com/video/477/

 

 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:21 | 6784422 Pumpkin
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I only got to upvote you once.  Which is bullshit.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 20:31 | 6784635 HardAssets
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The typical non-vet American raised on movies would say " Thank you for your service. " to that USAF B-52 crew.

Hmmmm - is helping to potentially set off WW3 and the deaths of millions (maybe billions) a ' service ' ?

The bankster gangsters don't pull the triggers or push the nuke buttons - guys like this ' just following orders ' do that. Time to wake the Hell up.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 22:01 | 6784915 deja
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Please don't disrespect the guys and gals serving because you don't like the mission they were sent on by our civilian leaders.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 08:09 | 6785774 Motasaurus
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The US decided in 1947 that following criminal orders was itself a crime. Any person serving in the US armed forces under the directions of any branch of government is a traitor to the United States.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 09:10 | 6785922 Chairman
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But then in 1964 the US decided that we could kill local VC under South Vietnamese law as long as they were on the spook's NLF list so we would round up these people and take them up in a chopper and the interpreter would tell them if they did not give us new names we would throw them out.  We would throw one guy out just to show them that we were serious and the women would start talking.  After we had some new names to add to the list we would land and then kill all of them so nobody was left to talk.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:01 | 6784128 goldhedge
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Gotta use some of that aviation fuel thats stocked up.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:46 | 6784308 TeamDepends
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General "Buck" Turgidson: If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:06 | 6784365 Bob
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Hilarious, the second inspired movie reference.  And I'm watching it, yes, I am, On the big board!

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:31 | 6784139 Sergeiab
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Trump is ok with Putin (last gop debate)

If Obozo would get along with him, ISIS would be gone by christmas

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:53 | 6784325 post turtle saver
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"... get away from our islands."

they're not yours, mafuckers...

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:11 | 6784384 Max Steel
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Is it yours ? Neither. I can understand US diatribe on Spartlay Islands its a ridiculous claim made by Chinese but Paracel islands are pretty much close to China , 1st pearl of string.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:43 | 6784480 cougar_w
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Last pearl of that string is Mindanao. Or just maybe Papua New Guinea, depending on how you intend to survey it.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 04:09 | 6785581 Max Steel
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Nope those pearl of strings end with 2nd chain of islands comprising spartley Islands in S.China sea. Chinese are not stupid to claim waters till PNG.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 08:43 | 6785827 post turtle saver
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they're international waters and airspace and will be exercised as such... China can go kick rocks, seems they're good at that...

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:01 | 6784346 Jack Burton
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I'm Navy 71-77. It seemed to me the Navy was much more cool headed about war, nobody really seemed keen on it, and command never gave the impression we were looking for it. But reading military journals and Foreign Affairs journals before and after, I got the impression the Air Force higher ups were really game to get on with the real thing, Soviet Union and all!

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:11 | 6784382 Fukushima Fricassee
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>> Obama strange love

>> Obama man love

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 05:46 | 6785645 EddieLomax
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Flying through international airspace is not a right I'd cede to any nation, I seem to remember a US citizen talking about those who give up liberty for security will get neither liberty or security, personally I don't think the US should be asking any countries permission to fly through internation airspace or sail through international waters.

As for support or opposition for Putin, he has nothing to do with this issue, although I have no trouble supporting him whenever he does the right thing, such as he did on Syria.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 17:57 | 6784108 One And Only
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If anyone is stupid enough to start a war with China and Russia we have the most qualified guy in office to do it.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:02 | 6784125 FreeShitter
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War is needed for Agenda 21 and to cover up the collapse and pretty much everyone in office is evil and beyond stupid.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:43 | 6784297 BlindMonkey
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Will the Nobel people FINALLY come up with the balls to demand that fucking medal back?

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:50 | 6784315 Lea
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"Will the Nobel people FINALLY come up with the balls to demand that fucking medal back?"

Balls? You're joking.

They're Swedes.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:59 | 6784343 derekpw
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Norwegian

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:07 | 6784367 TBT or not TBT
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 Anyway I think both countries have Nobels to give, with the science ones I think coming from one country and the mass murder prize coming from the other.   Scandies.  Norway is the one with the oil.  

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 20:17 | 6784564 Lea
Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:29 | 6784445 Crocodile
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They renamed the award; "The Nobel Drone of Peace" award.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 03:19 | 6785539 OverTheHedge
Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:13 | 6784390 Nexus789
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What WW3 starts they will send Obomba a note.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:28 | 6784440 Crocodile
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Now you know why they gave it to hime before he did anything.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLdFAg5Y7R0

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:00 | 6784110 Latina Lover
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The interest rate derivatives swaps held by the banksters must be ready to blow up, for the USSA to be  so desperate to provoke war with China. Either that or the MIC needs more funding.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:04 | 6784358 Jack Burton
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Our fiscal demise has been papered over by all involved, with Media running a massive dis-information campaign using CIA staff writers and State department journalists. The end of the USA will not come on any battle field, or long drawn out cold war, NOPE, the end will come, as you say, when all the financial engineering that keeps dollare hegemony alive, fall apart. If we can't print dollars that retian their value, then we are finished. Pentagon budget of 700+ billion, in the best case would fall to 300 billion tops!

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 21:07 | 6784760 Aussie V
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The US of A will collapse and has been collapsing for the past 20-30 years or so. I'm surprised no ones noticed. The collapse will come from within not an attack from outside.

The US/West society is collapsing from within. The family has been destroyed and, is being further attacked which, in reality then only takes one or two generations (at most) to permeate the entire country's society like a cancer.

The evidence of the cancer is on show everywhere. The ridiculous political correctness, the admonition and validation of any minority who gets offended for any lame reason be it, racial, spiritual or sexual. Every and any sexual perversion is now lauded as a human right and minds are now so muddled and confused that truth should be the traded as a rare commodity. (Shush, I shouldn't give them ideas)

The US can have the strongest army in the world but it won't stop the collapse from within. All it will do is take down a LOT of innocents along the way.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 23:28 | 6785127 tenpanhandle
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Derivatives of the truth can and does take care of the supply deficit.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 17:59 | 6784113 SMG
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For what it's worth, I really think that life will be better after WWIII and everything gets rebuilt.  Just gotta get from here to there.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:02 | 6784129 Dr. Engali
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At least the pc college pussies will be forced to grow up and face the real world.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:10 | 6784164 Analog
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At least the pc college pussies will be forced to grow up and face the real world.

 

Dr. Engali, I am more inclined to agree with Fred than you:

http://fredoneverything.org/oh-help-oh-help-oh-help/

http://fredoneverything.org/wimp-nation-poised-to-fall/

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:11 | 6784167 Latina Lover
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Doubt it.  They will scream 'microaggresion' until the big flash peels away their eyeballs.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:14 | 6784185 drink or die
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air bursts are racist

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:23 | 6784215 Five8Charlie
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The White flash, then the fade to Black. Sounds equal to me.

(Equally fucked)

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:55 | 6784334 TeamDepends
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General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Well, no, I can't say I have.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 23:51 | 6785183 vollderlerby
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like that insane cunt that's been running around campus with a mattress?

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:09 | 6784131 Latina Lover
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SMG,I suspect that for the vast majority of humans, getting from here to there after WW3 will  require re-incarnation.  Better practise your Ommmms.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:07 | 6784150 FreeShitter
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Bro, the living will envy the dead after WWIII.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:11 | 6784381 Nexus789
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What are you babbling on about. It will be nuclear and there will be no one left to rebuild anything.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:00 | 6784122 Dr. Engali
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Are you not entertained citizens?

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:07 | 6784151 Herd Redirectio...
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Are we going to call this one World War: Maximus?

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:13 | 6784182 J Jason Djfmam
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World War Whatever.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 22:32 | 6784975 MalteseFalcon
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The war to end all wars.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:02 | 6784135 Lord Ariok
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The Leaders of The Air Force  Viagra Pills must not be working so they got do others things to get off.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:11 | 6784170 Wile-E-Coyote
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China will do nothing. After all what threat are boats sailing around and planes flying over the Islands. Yes an irritation but they know how close the collapse is. Why give the US what it wants?

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:19 | 6784204 buzzsaw99
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the wake from a destroyer could swamp their whole shitty island. /s

stop breaking down my shitty wall! [/southpark chinaman]

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:17 | 6784409 Fukushima Fricassee
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No but that's as plausable as cocksucker Obama's sea rise threat.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:40 | 6784475 flapdoodle
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Correction, the Chinese will do nothing *right now*. I'd be more afraid of what they might do later, when they pick a moment which is convenient for them...

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 00:45 | 6785314 Uchtdorf
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Millions of them, in uniform, on the west coast of the US by spring 2017. You read it first right here on ZH.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 02:43 | 6785491 Wile-E-Coyote
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Yes war is coming, I have no doubt about that. But the Chinese will pick their moment unless they have no alternative. This cat and mouse game can go on for some time to come until the US does something really stupid, false flag or no false flag.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:12 | 6784173 Moccasin
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The fascinating thing about the prospects of a hot war, WWIII, is that it could start early one day and be over by the next with no winners, just glow in the dark losers.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:45 | 6784498 cougar_w
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The Chinese are too rich now to risk a hot war.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:11 | 6784175 buzzsaw99
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they've gotten the highest point on that island up to what, three feet above sea level? hardly seems worth starting ww4 over it.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:16 | 6784190 The Greek horse
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Sparty islands are geographically closer to the Philippines and Vietnam ..It's there problem.. Guess a War won't collapse the American Dollar..

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:17 | 6784192 Berspankme
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AF needs some new planes?

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:34 | 6784242 Five8Charlie
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Yes, apparently they think they do.

The award went to Northrup late last month:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Strike_Bomber

I remember back in the 1970s (yes, I do) the huge debate about the B-1. This time: crickets. And not a peep from the prez on the subject of if we need these things or not. Zero debate. Just ignored by the Nobel Prize boy.  $50 billion dollars (to start) and no one questions the need for the program. MIC - what a racket.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:46 | 6784307 BlindMonkey
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Try doing a show of force flyby with a stealth plane. That makes about as much sense as a doomsday device that nobody knows about.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:54 | 6784331 Lea
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"Try doing a show of force flyby with a stealth plane"

What stealth plane?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/28/new-u-s-stealth-jet-can...

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 04:05 | 6785578 silvermail
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The air defense system S-300 (non-export version) is guaranteed to detect and guaranteed to destroy the F-22 and F-35.
The myth that the C-300 can not detect the F-35, need only to sell these useless and very expensive flying troughs - F-35.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:50 | 6784317 Vatican_cameo
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The B-2 isn't even a distraction.  It's functional and has been in service for 15 years.  This just slipped right through because we have the $1 trillion dollar debacle called the F-35.  What's a few billion when the same company is fleecing you for over a Trillion on another "Pie in the Sky" project.  Not even a "blip" on the radar.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:21 | 6787807 BarkingCat
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Aren't the younger pilots from Everyone Gets A Trophy generation?

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:20 | 6784208 Falling Down
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Great, now TPTB will keep the "we need troops on Okinawa!", meme going  ad infinitum. 

The more things change, the more they stay the same. No doubt HNIC's people keep playing checkers, while the Russians and Chinese keep playing chess.

 

 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:31 | 6784235 farflungstar
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Can't they see what's going on there thru satellite imagery without being deliberately provocative?

I mean I know Ass Carter wants to play soldier and all, but why be dicks? They do the same thing to us you'd hear wall-to-wall Wolf Blitzer style nasal whining to no end.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:44 | 6784303 Anopheles
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It's not about seeing what's going on, it's letting the Chinese know that the rest of the world still considers that to be international waters, and not Chinese territory. 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:53 | 6784324 Exalt
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It's not about seeing what's going on, it's letting the Chinese know that the (USA) still considers that to be international waters, and not Chinese territory. 

 

There fixed that for you.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:24 | 6787824 BarkingCat
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No you did no fix itt.

He was right. In this particular instance China is 100% wrong.

China sure as hell does not want to proceed to any sort of an international arbitration on this.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:27 | 6784240 yogibear
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Barry's whack wack job neocons will indeed get us into a shooting war.

First a currency war then a real war.

Problem is that the US military laptops are made in China as well as their network equipment.

The multinationals and the paid-off politicians in DC made the US dependent on China.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:31 | 6784252 The Greek horse
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Correction Yogi, the currency war is happening now, next is real war.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:03 | 6784355 Crocodile
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Final draft, the currency war is in full bloom, while the trade war is warming up and then comes the "hot" war, one that has already begun in covert ways and by proxy.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:43 | 6784264 Anopheles
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The US are being pussies. 

The Russians on the other hand, a few years ago in  Tupolev Bear bomber,  buzzed directly over a US Carrier Strike Group at less than 2,000 feet.   And then the circled and did it a second time.  I think it was the Nimitz. 

Even now they regularly buzz US carrier groups, but I don't think they fly directly over the carriers like they used to. 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:27 | 6784438 Max Steel
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Few years ago? :D  It happened 11 days back only.Revamp yourself . 2 Russian Tupolev Tu-142s approached the USS Ronald Reagan near the Korean peninsula. The carrier launched four armed F/A-18 Super Hornets to intercept and escort . Still, the Russian planes pressed on, eventually passing within one mile of the U.S. carrier.

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 01:18 | 6785365 Anopheles
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The incident I'm talking about was in 2008.  And they flew pretty much over the deck of the Nimitz.  The aircraft was a TU-95.  

The recent incident was. TU-142, a maritime patrol version of the TU-95 bomber. 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:38 | 6784283 dot_bust
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The U.S. shouldn't worry about China's man-made islands. They have the "made in China" stamp.

So, they'll fall apart on their own in three weeks, the average lifespan of a Chinese-made product.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:00 | 6784345 Crocodile
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Everything Apple is made in China; from what I hear they last for a year or two, then the "Isheep" go and buy more.  The corporation hires the finest low pay wage workers, some as young a 5 years old, and pays little to no taxes while profiteering.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:15 | 6784396 Jack Oliver
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How is the iphone going !!!

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 18:56 | 6784339 bid the soldier...
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So was it one B-52 or two? Did it/they come within the 12 mile limit?
Was it last weekend or earlier?
If it was earlier is this the same overflight and are these the same B-52s that showed up in the South China Sea last year when China declared an exclusionary zone over those waters?

From here on its all disinformation

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:04 | 6784357 Joe Plane
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Well, there may be reason if this news is true

https://www.rt.com/business/321669-china-gold-seabed-discovery/

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:54 | 6784525 Quinvarius
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There is no gold down there.  You always get some dumbass story like this when gold is bottoming.  I don't care to speculate on why.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 02:53 | 6785501 Wile-E-Coyote
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Yeah read that story; Gold at 2000 ft, now how the hell are they going to mine that? It might as well be on an Asteroid.....oh wait.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 22:15 | 6784942 deja
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It's from all those terrible boating accidents.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:19 | 6784412 Omega_Man
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Americans are itching for their men to be sacrificed 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 22:14 | 6784940 Goldilocks
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...the terrifying battle with the giant squid...

"20.000 Leagues Under the Sea" (1954) Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhyuey4xU3Q (4:34)

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:14 | 6786657 Gohigher
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Not so OMan, only Muricans' need the cortisone.
Most other Americans are waiting for, um, the next transbutchered freakazoid to come onto the nightly news, ad nauseum. God forbid they challenge the State head on and demand media coverage of dead soldiers unloaded from the Angel FLight.

I'd move to Kicking Horse or Radium in an instant if could get past the "Canadian Wall". You know those pesky enforceable immigration laws!

Even the coming Trudeau session might be better than this domestic Beltway merde.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:24 | 6784430 jtg
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People with power that used to watch cowboy movies will trigger WW3.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:28 | 6784442 Omega_Man
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Question:

When US aircraft carriers are at sea do they allow foreign military planes to fly over them?? Like Chinese or Russian, or Iranian?

And if not, why they hell do they think they can fly over China's island?

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 22:17 | 6784946 deja
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Not much to be done about it aside from launching a couple of fighters to shadow them.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 01:02 | 6785353 Anopheles
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Yes, the Russians have buzzed US carrier battle groups at altitudes of 1000 to 2000 feet using Bear bombers. 

In 2008, the Russians flew right over the Nimitz, at under 2000 feet, and then they turned around and did it again (in case they missed the first flyover?  Hehe ). 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:35 | 6784458 will ling
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wolfowitz.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:44 | 6784489 Nolde Huruska
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Captain Finlander: "Now don't worry, Commodore. The Bedford'll never fire first. But if he fires one, I'll fire one"

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 20:11 | 6784568 vietnamvet
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Fire one Sir!  ... a classic black and white cold war movie.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:45 | 6784497 Grandad Grumps
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We really need to get rid of the demons (literally) controlling the US government, NATO, the UN, the BIS, the IMF and other government.

Maybe then we can have a real government.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 19:51 | 6784512 Quinvarius
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What I find amusing about this is Obama never thinking outside the box on anything.  No solutions.  Just mindless bluster.  How hard is it for us to go build some islands around their islands, out reefs or just old oil rigs?  I mean WTF?  Why do all of Obama's "solutions" look and feel like the thug asshole on the side of the street that tries to stare me down when I pass him walking for coffee, but won't do shit because I stare back?  Obama just acts foolish, annoying, and like someone you can't trust out of your sight.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 20:47 | 6784684 me or you
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Let it flies anyway it's paid with American tax money (enjoy it while it last).

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 21:41 | 6784851 DGY
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The only country in the world like to spur up a war is Japan. American is playing fire....

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 22:03 | 6784914 optimator
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By staying out of the 12 mile limit the U.S. is recognizing Chinese legal ownership.  Basing their Jian J-10 in the area?  The U.S. is familiar with the J-10 attributes as they should be because the U.S. funded and engineering it as the Israeli Lavi.  Israel sold the prototype and engineering to the Communist chinese.

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 22:37 | 6784988 Goldilocks
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Clinton speak... "how dare you"

 

Thu, 11/12/2015 - 22:44 | 6785005 rich1657
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BUFF Flyovers Rule, but absent an old school high-and-tight amphibious invasion this US posturing over Bien Dông doesn't pass the laugh test. Bust some rust and go for it; we're beyond boredom with these “freedom of navigation” exercises.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 01:05 | 6785358 Youri Carma
Fri, 11/13/2015 - 01:29 | 6785386 iClaudius
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Another arm of the US military appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 01:36 | 6785401 Joe A
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Just you spit on some small islands does not make them legally yours, even if you build on them. Open navigation lanes are more important than China claiming these islands are theirs.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 03:09 | 6785524 quasi_verbatim
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Near or far, within or without 12 miles doesn't cut it. What was the altitude?

Barrel in at sea level, then a screaming climb to bombing altitude and the Chink air traffic control will choke on their chop suey. Now that's chicken.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 06:15 | 6785668 Deepskyy
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I'm sure we have a few F4's hanging around.  I'd love to see how fast the Chicoms piss themselves if we turn a few hotshot pilots loose on a good old fashioned "Wild Weasel" practice run.

 

Ignore the junkers.  This place has filled up with Neo-Nazi (and just plain Nazi) basement dwelling scum who actively hope the communists win.  For a group that claims to be full of Libertarians and true capitalists, we sure do have a lot of people pulling for the Reds.  Then again, they also see "evil Joos!" at every corner too, so how bright can they really be?

 

Personally I love the B52 flyover.  Just a gentle reminder to the ChiComs.  Yes you silly bastards, we still can hit you from an untouchable height.  We can turn your precious sandcastles into useless junk within moments.  Along with that halfassed excuse for a navy. 

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 04:24 | 6785592 mendolover
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Whoevers gonna go over there hangin' their balls out for Uncle Sam better have more sense than this hero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjFIB1L3BPU

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 05:08 | 6785628 Fireman
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Jaded, busted, bankrupt USSA, like the two-bit punk it is, is going out with a half-wit smirk on its ugly mug. Only question is now whether China whips the punk or the Russian Bear eats it.

 

Onward to the tsunami of Saudi Mercan toilet paper petroscrip filth coming home to drown US!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 06:24 | 6785673 SpanishGoop
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I really think China asked for it !!

Like in "Please come, whe have to check our radars and defence systems".

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 07:04 | 6785702 The Last Bubble
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"...is becoming an increasingly dangerous (and largely uneccesary) game of chicken."

I agree we should just kowtow to the Chinese.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 07:12 | 6785709 orangegeek
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So who will fire the first shot??

 

 

Who the fuck cares?? 

 

Let's get WW3 up and running soon - the markets are falling and we need a new growth strategy!!!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 07:45 | 6785742 juicy_bananas
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Frying chickens in the barnyard!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 08:17 | 6785791 lakecity55
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Build up a ton of forces OUTSIDE the 12-mile limit, then negotiate.

Both sides are cocky and in need of mediation.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 09:00 | 6785879 truthalwayswinsout
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The Chinise economy is just one big Ponzi scheme. Institute an embargo and shut them down.

The Communist government would be lucky to survive a month with 100's millions of out of work peasants.

Of course, Apple and Walmart would never let it happen because they too would go out of business with nothing to sell.

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