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EU Commissioner's Dire Warning: "The Only Alternative To Europe Is War"

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While the saying goes "good fences make good neighbors," it appears the leadership of The EU is starting to get frustrated with the lack of acquiescence among some of the 'union's' newer or more marginal members. In a somewhat stunning statement, following ongoing and contentious meetings to discuss solutions to the migrant 'problem', EU Commissioner Timmermanns appeared to warn disagreeable member states, "There is an alternative to everything. I believe in EU cooperation because of all other forms in history have been tried to help Europeans get on better, and with the exception of this one, all other forms have led to war - so let's stick to this one."

 

 

As Elsevier reports (via Google Translate),

European leaders read the last few days the alarm about the survival of the European Union (EU). Prague said Commissioner Frans Timmermans (PvdA) Friday that the EU is only one alternative: war.

 

"The only alternative to the EU is war," said Timmermans Friday gave a speech at a conference in Prague, said a reporter for The Times of London who attended the speech.

 

Timmermans is the way Europe responds to the migration crisis' the biggest threat to the EU ever. The Commissioner underlined that countries should cooperate better when it comes to border controls. "Migration is part of life, but we must lead these movements together in the right direction," said Timmermans.

 

Matching words Timmermans in the alarmist tone that European leaders were heard in recent days about the survival of the EU. Earlier this week, Timmermans at the House of Europe Lecture in Amsterdam that he fears for the survival of the EU. "I do not optimistic about doing that, because I'm just not. This is the first time in my conscious experience of European cooperation that I think: it could ever really be able beaches.

 

Luxembourg Foreign Minister, who will chair the Council of the European Union on behalf of his country, spoke in an interview about identical words.

 

The current migration crisis is the European ideal of free movement shaking on its foundations. EU President Donald Tusk said that the EU is engaged in "a race against the clock." "But we are determined to win this race," said Tusk. "As I warned earlier, the only way not to dismantle the Schengen ensure proper management of the external borders of the EU."

 

The EU appears to be unable to curb migration flows. Because the borders are not guarded, seeing more and more countries are forced to protect their own borders. Even the welcoming Sweden went on Thursday to intensive checks on the southern border.

Remember when Hank Paulson waved the "Mutual Assured Destruction" card in the face of the U.S. with his infamous "blank check" three page term sheet? Now, it's Europe's turn.

What's worse, however, for things to devolve this much, it confirms that the European 'Union' is rapidly disintegrating, much more than the recent surge in barbed wire fences around European nations will demonstrate, and as Timmermanns warns, that means war.

 

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Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:47 | 6786781 ParkAveFlasher
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The alternative to war, is always peace.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:48 | 6786784 Boris Alatovkrap
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This is saber rattle or dire prediction?

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:51 | 6786799 Took Red Pill
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As we all know, The US has been preparing for a war with Russia and/or China. This next war will be fought in space as well as on earth. The army already has a space brigade;

http://www.ncfa.ncr.gov/sites/default/files/SMDC%20NCFA%20Brief%20-%20Releaseable.pdf

 

This past week, the U.S. Air Force conducted a special weeklong war exercise at Kirtland AFB in New Mexico Nov. 2 - Nov 6.  “Operation Global Thunder Vigilant Shield* is code for a first-strike nuclear attack against Russia and/or China arising out of a regional conflict with U.S. military forces.  U.S. military strategy now includes denying Russia and China use of their space satellites. So the US plans to strike first with nuclear weapons and take out Russia and China’s satellites. But don’t you think they have the same plan against the US? Be prepared!

 

http://www.lasg.org/ActionAlerts/StopTheWarRally_ltr_31Oct2015.html

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:53 | 6786803 Haus-Targaryen
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This type of fear mongering is very typical of EU fans when they have nothing else useful to say.  

Europe existed long before the EU and it will exist long after this horrible sting rotten corpse of a political institution is gone & buried, and nothing but a foot note in history.  

The quicker the EU is resigned to the rubbish bin the better.  

DEATH to the European Union.  

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:54 | 6786819 Latina Lover
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+10,000!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:11 | 6786875 HowdyDoody
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Meanwhile in Syria, anti-ISIS forces have captured the ICARDIA base alongside the stretegic M5 highway 25  km southwest of  Aleppo. This creates a massive break in the ISIS north-south supply route.

https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/665195610107215872

If this sort of rout is kept up, the Anglo-Zionists are going to have to pull some serious shit out their ass in order to keep the ISIS buddies in play. Blowing up a civilian airliner doesn't cut it.

The ICARDIA base is an internationally renowed agricultural seed bank. I wonder how much damage the ISIS stooges have done as a favor to the likes of Monsanto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Center_for_Agricultural_Rese...

 

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:13 | 6786884 Manthong
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“EU Commissioner's Dire Warning: "The Only Alternative To Europe Is War"”

..only if asshats like you are allowed to run anything.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:23 | 6786895 froze25
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Too funny as if this option or plan isn't leading to war right now.  I am sure the release of the new Hunger Games movie will calm this down.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:26 | 6786928 piliage
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How, pray tell, will they fight said war? With two cops, a rowboat, and a water cannon? Europe's military is a freekin' joke, cut to shreds to fund their precious pensions for useless government hacks.

Europe is hitting rock bottom now in self-parody.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:51 | 6787026 TBT or not TBT
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They can strike down their enemies with sanctimony.  

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:03 | 6787071 Boris Alatovkrap
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There is new episodic of Hunger Game? Please send link of Put Locker!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:29 | 6787211 J Jason Djfmam
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Ahhh, the continuing saga of Katpiss Neverkleen.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:35 | 6787241 0b1knob
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“War is peace. 
Freedom is slavery. 
Ignorance is strength.”

 

With the EU you get all three at once. 

We have always been at war with ... somebody.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:40 | 6787268 Boris Alatovkrap
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You are forget "drudgery is fun"

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:51 | 6787306 Money Counterfeiter
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Arrest these fucking bankers and hang the MF's.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:56 | 6787329 macholatte
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solutions to the migrant 'problem',

and putting the migrants on an island while they are vetted is completely off the table.

EU Commission = Morons

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:32 | 6787500 Bokkenrijder
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Timmermans is one of those left wing champagne socialists, and Jean-Claude Junker's lapdog. In other words: people who helped create the crisis in the first place.

Timmermans is a demagogue, never shy to be used as a propaganda slut if this advances his career, for example during his sleech to the UN regarding the downing of MH17 over the Eastern Ukraine.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:45 | 6787562 eforce
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From The Protocols:

 

UNIVERSAL WAR 

3. We must be in a position to respond to every act of opposition by war with the neighbors of that country which dares to oppose us: but if these neighbors should also venture to stand collectively together against us, then we must offer resistance by a universal war. 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 18:05 | 6788441 itchy166
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There is already a war in Europe, and Europeans are losing

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 18:20 | 6788531 Stuck on Zero
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The trouble with free movement, free tuition, free medical care, etc. is that someone else is enslaved to pay for it.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 21:41 | 6789950 Pure Evil
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Nah, the real problem is if the state pays for your education, what's to say they won't start specifying exactly what you should study.

Public school is a prime example.

If you start demanding the state pay for your mortgage/rent/car note/food then what's to say they won't demand you live/drive/eat the types of housing/cars/food they want and not what you like.

Obviously once you give the state this much control over your life then they're gonna insist that you do as you're told as they see fit.

As with Obamacare, once you lived out your usefulness to the state what's to say they won't terminate your uselessness.

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:03 | 6787701 Victor von Doom
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They don't need an island. The vetting process is easy. Are you of European descent? If yes, you're in. No? THEN FUCK OFF!

Simple, effective screening process - why does everyone trouble themselves with bullshit "morality", succumbing to whatever gimmedat that fronts up?

Serve your people for a change, you pack of treasonous cunts.

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:33 | 6787232 ILLILLILLI
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What chance does a returning deceased war veteran have for that good paying job, more sugar, and the free mule you've been dreaming of? Well, think it over. Then take off your shoes... 

Now you can see how increased spending opportunities means harder work for everyone, and more of it too. So do your part, Joe. Join with millions of your neighbors and turn in your shoes. For Industry!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:10 | 6787114 Renfield
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<<How, pray tell, will they fight said war? With two cops, a rowboat, and a water cannon? Europe's military is a freekin' joke,>>

True. But make no mistake, this is NATO talking. The EU mouthpiece is only its puppet.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:06 | 6787717 Victor von Doom
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Seems to me NATO is only asking how you would prefer to die - on your feet or on your knees.

Fuck NATO - on my feet you bastards - and I won't be going alone.

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:04 | 6787710 IndyPat
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No shit.

This is also going to run the "newer states" he mentioned into the arms of sanity, which in this case I think we know who that is.

For a hint, he's the guy inspecting a new submarine right now and checking the running daily ISIS/CIA Merc kill totals.

The guy that has a pair and an Army to back them up.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:26 | 6787454 PTR
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Too funny as if this option or plan isn't leading to war right now.  I am sure the release of the new Hunger Games movie will calm this down.

I was under the impression that after a war started, the conditions to implement a Hunger Games world would be in place.

 

/irony

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:09 | 6787107 Renfield
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<<..only if asshats like you are allowed to run anything.>>

They do love their dichotomies, don't they. As if there were only 2 options.

They really hope too many of us don't start thinking outside their little dichotomy box.

Sat, 11/14/2015 - 07:39 | 6791157 Kobe Beef
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Exactly. "Accept/feed/clothe/house/school/tolerate millions of illiterate hostile invaders and all their pathologies; or it's War!" Bullshit.

I think Caucasoids should just say "no more cousin wars" and leave it at that. No more USSA vs Russia BS. No more Britain vs Germany BS, etc. If it's White, it's alright, we can talk it over. No more killing your cousins for Elite Aims and Corporate Conquests.

If that's beyond our ken, then formalize War. Hostile parties make a list of demands, then set aside an area of the Arctic Sea/Antarctic Land and time to conduct a "live war game". The war is over when the opposite force is annihilated, not with the total destruction of civilian populations. Winner gets their demands met. Better yet, make the opposing Executives duel for it, and leave the rest of us out of it. When their own lives are on the line, expect greater restraint fom hostile leaders.

There are lots of alternatives to Total War between Europeans. They just don't benefit the ZOG. Patriots must act to change the incentives toward warmongering Elites.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:25 | 6787183 hansg
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And that's the exact truth, isn't it? Wars are started by _politicians_, people like Frans Timmermans. Normal citizens don't go around starting wars. So if Timmermans threatening is with war, he is threatening us with a war he himself will start. To punish us for our lack of appreciation for his glorious vision of the resurrected 3rd Reich, no doubt...

From our perspective, such wars (which are rarely fun for normal citizens) could be avoided by hanging politicians from the nearest convenient tree or lamp post. Maybe we should try that as a solution, instead of war...

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:16 | 6787771 Victor von Doom
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Not resurrected 3rd Reich - this is NOT on behalf of the Germans - or any Europeans for that matter. This is an out and out JUDENREICH.

Labels are important.

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:37 | 6786969 NotApplicable
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I found it interesting to read yesterday about the US backed Kurds cutting the ISIS supply line.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/12/kurdish-troops-attempt-to-r...

Competition with the Russians is getting interesting, to say the least.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:10 | 6787742 IndyPat
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Wonder how the freshly armed Kurd problem will be handled when the Kurds get frisky for some Turkish ass and land?

Perfect circular shitshow.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:16 | 6787773 Farqued Up
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+1

I have no influence on anyone else, sorry.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:31 | 6786947 Jack Burton
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The EU was formed on the basis of Banker, Zionist and NATO influence. It was formed to allow Corporation to exercise pure power across the Union without any nationalist interference. Bankers now control the Brussels Parliament, and use it to end all financial regulations. NATO/ the USA uses the EU as it's civilian arm to enforce militaristic NATO agendas on to former peaceful national entities. Sweden as a good example, from being neutral, the EU influence has brought them to the front line of aggressive state seeking to foment war on Russia.

The migrant crisis was planned with the aid of ISIS/ISIL, NATO member Turkey, EU Employers and Bankers. Guess what this is all about? Ending European Ethnicity once and for all, to create a consumer slave society with no national or ethnic connections.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:56 | 6787050 Manipulism
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...to create a consumer slave society with no national or ethnic connections.

like the USSA.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:02 | 6787065 Zwelgje
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ding ding ding !!!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:23 | 6787167 Jack Burton
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Yes, you picked up on just my point! +100

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:43 | 6787265 flapdoodle
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Exactamundo! The migrant wave in Europe was planned by exactly the same people as planned the huge migrant influx into the USSA, for exactly the same reason.

The Zionists want to eliminate any sort of cultural cohesion amongst the mostly white middle classes in USSA and in Europe, with the goal that THEY remain the only organized group and in control while all the other ethnicities are at each others throats. A variant on the Israeli goal of remaining an Island of calm in a sea of countries in chaos thanks the "Arab Spring" in order to bring to fruition the Oded Yinon plan...

The Zionists have launched their End Game for gaining total control of the West (plus Japan and the Pacific Rim countries).

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:07 | 6787366 Oldrepublic
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Illegal aliens in the US are counted in the US census thus affecting the number of congressional seats and votes in the electoral college

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:20 | 6787804 Victor von Doom
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The answer to their plan is simple and at hand. Form your own European collectives. You don't need to follow "your" government anywhere. Build your own institutions, your own societies!

To hell with the NWO - no-one said you have to do anything they say or "suggest". 

Westerners will always be armed with their own free will. Do as you will - not what "they" will.

 

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 17:18 | 6788134 Jack Burton
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"The Zionists want to eliminate any sort of cultural cohesion amongst the mostly white middle classes"

Zionism thrieves by destroying other cultures and races.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:00 | 6787346 FIAT CON
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This killing and abandonement of the MENA allows the zionist to expand their borders for the greater Israel...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

Israel & Palestine: The Maps Tell The True Story - What ...

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:06 | 6787358 piliage
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"Bankers now control the Brussels Parliament"

The Parliament is a powerless clown car driven by a truckload of fools. The Bankers control the Council, the commission, and the ECB where the real power lives.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:00 | 6787060 Johnny Horscaulk
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'Kevin MacDonald’s review of Wilhelm Marr’s pamphlet, Der Sieg des Judenthums über das Germanenthum, 1879, (“The Victory of Judaism over Germanism”), is a fascinating compendium of pessimistic quotations in which German political pundit Marr concludes gloomily that there was no hope left for Germany.

It was finished — yes, as early as the 1870s. The Jews, he lamented, were simply too formidable a foe.

Marr’s pamphlet ends with these chilling words: “Let us accept the inescapable, since we cannot change it. Its name is: FINIS GERMANIAE—the end of Germany!”

1. Is America the new Germany?'
....
...
https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/under-jewish-rule-by-lasha-darkmoon/

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:48 | 6787977 BarkingCat
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Exactly Haus.

The other thing is that the Schengen does not have to be completely abolished.

 Countries could set their border controls back up and still allow free flow of people with EU passports.

I would even make it a step more rigid. If you do not look European then your EU passport is worthless.

Yeah that would piss off some people and maybe some countries but fuck them. Every nation has a right to protect itself.

 

No matter what other causes there are this is still a pure EU problem. They still refuse to address it.

Many have seen the video of these human locust move across the country. There is not only no will or desire to stop them but it is obvious to anyone with a brain that this is an organized effort. I wrote this before. Stop the vessel on route and militarily escort them back to the point of origin.

Disembark the human locust at the port from which they started their journey. Arrest the crew of the vessel. Confiscate the vessel and bring it back to the EU and immediately scrap it.

Find out who is funding all of it and kill them.

Problem solved.

 

... and yes, stop fucking up their home countries too.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:48 | 6787979 holgerdanske
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In Switzerland they used to say that peace wouldonly be achieved, when the last German shot the last Russian mutually.

I am not so sure about the Russians.

 

Stupidity to claim that war is the only alternative! The only alternative is freedom, because the EU is the opposite of that. Freedom to say what I think, to join what I want and to be left in peace.

They can take their politicians and stuff them wherever they can find space! We don't need them.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:55 | 6786821 Four chan
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there is already a war between the eu controllers and all europeans. using subhumans as weapons.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev9zxdpg6s8

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:19 | 6786911 froze25
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One mans sub-human is another mans misguided simpleton.  Look these sub humans as you say used to be part of the Ottoman Empire and back then there was violence but not this Jihad extremism.  This is being created and steered and controlled.  Look for the puppet masters.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:38 | 6786975 NotApplicable
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I prefer the term "useful idiots."

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:10 | 6787374 Oldrepublic
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also called fellow travelers

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:48 | 6787297 blabam
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The Ottoman Empire tried to conquer Europe you fucking idiot. 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:35 | 6787526 jcdenton
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Not as much as Europe but the Holy Roman Empire and the Papacy that created -- Islam. Frankenstein's monster's [attempted] revenge ..

https://app.box.com/s/hfgvcqg7gqh7i27at6sv53ywu87lwarp (Gods For The Godless.doc)

 

 

 

 ... you fucking idiot.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:50 | 6787990 BarkingCat
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"Look for the puppet masters" - That is one of the things that need to be done. Of course when you find them you kill them.

and the is much more that need to be done to stop the flow. It is not complicated... see my post above

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:59 | 6786839 unplugged
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big deal - exercises are normal routine - have been forever

besides the point, icbm/slbm's delivered nukes are obsolete - won't do any damage - russians have 100% defense against them and we probably do also - its just all scaremongering to keep $$$ flowing to MIC

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:01 | 6786846 El Vaquero
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Kirtland has a fuckload of nuclear stuff on it.  In the event of nuclear war, it is getting hit, and the Russian nuclear warheads use both GLONAS (Russian GPS) as well as inertial guidance as a backup.  Taking sattelites out won't stop them from hitting us. 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:49 | 6787006 TBT or not TBT
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ICBMS and SLBMS depend in no way on space or ground based signals to hit their target, once launched.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:21 | 6787153 FrankieGoesToHo...
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The army already has a space brigade;

 

Just curious, do they use he Russian taxi's like NASA?

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:35 | 6787239 lakecity55
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Hey, that's great! When are they going to build fallout shelters for American citizens? We might be able to get jobs building the fallout shelters! I bet they'll have them stocked with top-shelf freeze-dried food, fresh water wells, and bunks and stuff, maybe even video libraries! Anyone know when the Fallout Shelter Construction Plan is gonna kick off?

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:39 | 6787559 Max Steel
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Good luck in believing that US can shoot down China or Russian sats.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:53 | 6786802 Haus-Targaryen
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Ghordo? 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:56 | 6786824 MalteseFalcon
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Herr Timmerman, who is going to war against whom?

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:19 | 6786910 Grumbleduke
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Oh, that's easy - all of them against Germany, the scapegoat and battlefield of the elites for centuries.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:27 | 6787460 Oldrepublic
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Good video of the Hungarian PM Orban ,calls the EU elite traitors
With English subtitles,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OF0MKYhMkA

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:06 | 6786862 WTFRLY
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It is not sabre rattling or a prediction, but a promise. Everyone knows where this is going. Get your body and mind ready for the war. 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:26 | 6787189 BlindMonkey
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+1.  and this is why we can't have nice things....

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:06 | 6787087 Renfield
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<<This is saber rattle or dire prediction?>>

This is regressing from promises, to threats.

This is revealing "Europe" (euphemism for the EU) as the cage that it always was. The bankster game is nearly up, when the velvet glove comes off to reveal the iron fist.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:39 | 6787556 Johnny Horscaulk
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'Kevin MacDonald’s review of Wilhelm Marr’s pamphlet, Der Sieg des Judenthums über das Germanenthum, 1879, (“The Victory of Judaism over Germanism”), is a fascinating compendium of pessimistic quotations in which German political pundit Marr concludes gloomily that there was no hope left for Germany.

It was finished — yes, as early as the 1870s. The Jews, he lamented, were simply too formidable a foe.

Marr’s pamphlet ends with these chilling words: “Let us accept the inescapable, since we cannot change it. Its name is: FINIS GERMANIAE—the end of Germany!”

1. Is America the new Germany?

I confess I had no idea the outlook was so bleak in Germany as early as 1879. (Marr’s pamphlet has recently been translated into English and is now available in pdf format). I had been under the false impression that the notion of Jewish domination came much later — after the publication of the Protocols (1903) and the Russian Revolution (1917).

We have seen it all happen though. Germany was brought to its knees, exactly as Marr predicted. Its cadaver now lies rotting.

It was only quite recently that Israel demanded from Germany a further 1 billion Euros ($1.4 billion) in Holocaust reparations for its endlessly traumatized Jewish survivors. Almost 70 years after World War II, the grim extortion racket continues unabated.

Though World War II ended sixty-eight years ago, the number of Holocaust survivors today is truly phenomenal. This prompted Norman Finkelstein’s mother to ask somewhat cynically, after she had been cheated out of her reparations money by the rabbis who administered the Holocaust Fund: “If everyone who claims to be a survivor actually is one, who did Hitler kill?”'

...
https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/under-jewish-rule-by-lasha-darkmoon/

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 17:27 | 6788189 ajax
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Go fuck yourself Durden. No one at all in Europe wants war, thinks about war or even dreams about war.

 

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:53 | 6786806 Perimetr
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The EU might as well defer all their public announcments to NATO

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:53 | 6786809 Perimetr
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The EU might as well defer all their public announcments to NATO

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:53 | 6786810 Perimetr
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The EU might as well defer all their public announcments to NATO

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:23 | 6787439 debtor of last ...
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Why do your comments get different votes?

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:02 | 6786850 OldPhart
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"I do not optimistic about doing that, because I'm just not. This is the first time in my conscious experience of European cooperation that I think: it could ever really be able beaches"

 

I take it that this is a bad google translation?

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:41 | 6786981 11b40
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He meant to say bitchez, not beaches.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:26 | 6787843 Victor von Doom
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Bloke must be Hispanic.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 17:30 | 6788202 ajax
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"Bloke must be Hispanic." Or from the USA, it's so difficult to tell the difference anymore isn't it?

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:34 | 6786940 Dicey
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It's just the usual politics of fear by this illegitimate body of left wing extremists - can't get what they want they throw their toys out of the pram. The sooner we see the back of this disgusting EU monstrosity the better.  

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:13 | 6787120 Renfield
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+1 "the usual politics of fear"

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:54 | 6787318 Herd Redirectio...
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The EU is the hammer, the migrants are the anvil.

Its smashing time!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 17:41 | 6788289 ajax
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"+1 "the usual politics of fear""

Yeah absolutely but it isn't "left wing" nor is it "right wing" - it's $$$$ wing all around. It's jobs for Americans. War and/or fear of war means jobs paid for by your tax dollars which no one on this site seems to want to pay. Republicans want your money just as much as Democrats do to pay for Big Defense. "Small Gov't" won't change that at all - the Big Boys will always get an extreme slice of any tax pie and by the way kids taxes on your paltry income are never going to go away. Never.

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:03 | 6787073 Archduke
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"the alternative to war is always peace"

good one. the alternative is "pacification".

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:38 | 6787549 Klemens
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The Nazi Roots of the ‘Brussels EU’ What you always wanted to know about the ‘Brussels EU’ – But no one dared to tell you

http://www.relay-of-life.org/main.html

 

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:58 | 6787668 Raymond_K._Hessel
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No my friend - the alternative is not peace, the alternative is the ongoing destruction of the FRN's grc status.

Despite the theories about globalists wanting to kill the dollar, the Zionists need the American Empire's military to continue destroying Arab countries to help engender 'Greater Israel'

I know most of you just hate muslims but if you have 7 minutes, listen to this guy. Not to take it as 'true' even (no one thinks religion is more absurd than me - but to get an understanding of what at least some religious muslims of the non Wahhabist takfiri variety believe about 'Jewish plans'

I only promise you it is short and very interesting.

http://youtu.be/w6ZyV3icr5I

Then consider:

http://youtu.be/rFr4C2BPLeM

And study bibis face while in the presence of this noble and holy man in the video above:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/07/why-is-the-us-honoring-a-racist-r...

Then consider:
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future

http://america-hijacked.com/2014/07/13/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-p...

Any questions about the wars and immivasions?

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 17:16 | 6788127 doctor10
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so this power hugry small -minded warmonger is out of all other ideas at this point?

 

and the need and desire of Germans for the deutschmark and the needs and desires of Greece for the drachma means that the bankers must have war?

 

what a buch of losers

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:47 | 6786783 Money Boo Boo
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you mean WOAR!!!!!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:57 | 6786830 HowdyDoody
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In this case WHORE, specifically NATO's WHORE

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:28 | 6786937 WTFRLY
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lolololol MOAR is needed

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:51 | 6786787 Grandad Grumps
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I think that the commissioner neglects to mention that the wars were fomented by elitists and financed on both sides by banks.

To fix the problems, the elitists need to decide to stop creating wars and just disappear and the banks should be closed. I think all of the countries can agree to that.

You don't find the slaves foaming at the mouth about wars and central control.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:54 | 6786818 Haus-Targaryen
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The Slavs are more practical people right now than the Germans, Latins & Anglo Saxons are.  

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:30 | 6787491 Oldrepublic
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The Hungarian PM is a good man, he looks after the interests of his people

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 20:12 | 6789378 Aussie V
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Well they'll have to organise a coup or invade to get rid of him!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:22 | 6786916 froze25
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The Slav's have been there and done that in recent history and don't want to go back to it.  They are waking up fast because they see the similarities that they just dealt with 30 years ago.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:49 | 6786788 The Count
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The string pullers in the shadows are getting itchy fingers.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:49 | 6786789 Omega_Man
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he wants to lose again

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:50 | 6786794 duo
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I see some sort of "District 9" for migrants in the future.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:27 | 6786933 ParkAveFlasher
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I'll take "Pogroms & Ghettoes" for $400, Alex.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:34 | 6787897 Victor von Doom
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Might be time to re-kickstart the Madagascar proposal.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:51 | 6786796 hcho3
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Politicans do not hate wars.... Come on, Folks. 

How did we get out of Great depression? 

We got out with WWII. 

How did Japan economy start boom after WWII? Korean War. 

Europe is looking for another war. 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:09 | 6787110 Alvin Fernald
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Paul Krugman agrees with you. It's called the broken window fallacy.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:08 | 6787367 Cruel Aid
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That idiotic theory. They dont believe that bs for one second yet they spew it as valid, and HOPE that if they repeat it enough and it becomes legit economics.

Like Holder saying repeat it all day/every day, 'guns are bad and need to be eliminated'.

Many people are thick as a brick, most?

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:16 | 6787127 Renfield
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Upvoted you for "Europe is looking for another war", but you should have put "We got out with WWII" in quotation marks, as that is simply one (government-endorsed) theory.

There are several credible economists who argue that the war actually prolonged the Great Depression.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:51 | 6786797 roisaber
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Then let there be war.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:52 | 6786800 mademesmile
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So it's either I agree to your demands or you might have kill me.
Don't think so.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:18 | 6787138 Renfield
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Damn, dude. You just reduced his whole jawbone to less than 15 words.

Sat, 11/14/2015 - 00:55 | 6790680 BarkingCat
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+1000

 

Wish we could get your statement to the nationalist politicians so they could use it as a reply to these tyrants.

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:53 | 6786804 replaceme
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Hey now, give the EU a chance - it may very well lead to war, too.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:53 | 6786811 SmittyinLA
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Submit to Islam or we'll kill you

Baltics pivot to Capitalist Russia

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:13 | 6786891 MopWater
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Considering Putin is propping himself as one of the "last defenders of Christianity" it would make sense...meet extremism with extremism...

 

Crusades here we come.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 17:27 | 6788187 Countrybunkererd
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... "Crusades here we come."  In other words, World War IX or thereabouts.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:53 | 6786812 unplugged
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no, you have it backwards - your "EU cooperation" is what everyone else calls "EU tyranny", and tyranny always leads to war

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:25 | 6787182 BlindMonkey
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LOL.  I am thinking this guy's time horizon is just suffering from normalcy bias.  This 4th reich scheme will lead to war too.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:54 | 6786813 Reaper
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It's naughty to disobey your masters in Brussels.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:54 | 6786814 Seasmoke
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Comply or die ??? 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:43 | 6786989 kralizec
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For statist regimes and crony capitalist so-called democracies the words can be different but it always spells comply or die.

Sat, 11/14/2015 - 00:59 | 6790684 BarkingCat
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He must have gotten his words mixed up.... because... you know.. coercion and cooperation both start with a "C".

 

I also have another word that start with a "C" for this guy... it rhymes with aunt.

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:55 | 6786820 theallseeinggod
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According to the EU, illegal immigration is part of life so there should be no attempts made to limit it. This is what will bring the socialist system down. There's no way the EU can afford these people and there's no way those people will live here peacefully. There's an alternative to everything.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:56 | 6786825 Bring the Gold
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The alternative is war...if so then what are the sides? Who will go to war with whom and why? I hear the unelected and the elected EU bureaucrats make this sorts of statements but what would the sides be? Perhaps merely the common folk would rebel against transnational elites. That sounds like a good thing and it needn't be a war. Look at what happened with Milosevic in Serbia, the Velvet Revolution in Prague, Gandhi and the British empire. No need for war just the people throwing off their chains peacefully.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:56 | 6786827 SmittyinLA
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Good time to have a Cuban Spring revolution with US military precision guided munitions help.

Why not now?

Russia is all busy.

We can remove a commie goon government over the weekend.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 17:30 | 6788208 Countrybunkererd
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YEAH!!!  For reference look at Vietnam... in a single weekend! 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:58 | 6786832 debtor of last ...
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Cooperation in border controls? You mean, mr. Timmermans, keep talking for another 5 years and turn northern Europe into a multicultural shithole?

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:49 | 6787015 Colonel Klink
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Too late!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:28 | 6787469 debtor of last ...
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Afraid so... under the skin though, something boils. And it ain't frogs.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 15:45 | 6787592 Colonel Klink
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Correct, it the anger of the populace.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:39 | 6787926 Victor von Doom
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You say multicultural shithole, I say target rich environment.

Horses for courses, I suppose.

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:54 | 6788000 debtor of last ...
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It's my sandwich. Not yours. And i like my sandwich with ketchup, no catch up.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:58 | 6786833 THE DORK OF CORK
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The Eus holy mission is to destroy the national capitalistic monopolies of the post 1648 Europe.

These states would revert back to feudal arrangements given enough space and time and so must therefore be picked apart before this happens.

The similarly between the French Fronde period and today is striking.

That is a final destruction of local feudal arrangements by a hyper centralised Paris.

Leading to a 100+ decline in French me an living standards...

Which then lead to a even bigger catastrophe. 

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 12:59 | 6786838 Soph
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"It appears the 'union' is rapidly disintegrating... and as Timmermanns warns, that means war."

 

Either my sarcasm meter exploded and couldn't handle excesses of same in this statement, or, this is the best example of taking a quote out of context I've seen outside the National Enquirer. I just can't figure out which it is.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:00 | 6786843 FightingtheFed
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Fuck em!!! Kill'em all that would Open Europes borders to 3rd world savages!!!

 

Time to fucking fight or die!

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:01 | 6786845 markar
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Correction: The only alternative to war is ending the EU

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:21 | 6787155 Renfield
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Or we could continue to let it implode over time. But I like your suggestion better.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:03 | 6786851 joeyman9
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See Michael Rivero's "All Wars are Banker's Wars."

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:05 | 6786854 Jorgen
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The war on Europe and European civilization already started 40+ years ago, or some may argue even 90+ years ago with the introduction of Cultural Marxism. it is only reaching a boiling point now.

 

George Soros wants to end Europe as we know it.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:07 | 6786866 Painful Facts
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no such thing as cultural marxism soros wants fascism.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:18 | 6786890 Jorgen
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"no such thing as cultural marxism soros wants fascism."

The existence of the Cultural Marxism is well documented. Soros is just a part of a Hegelian dialectic solution.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:41 | 6787934 Victor von Doom
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Sorry PF, not true - he's GOT Fascism and the bastard isn't stopping there.

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:11 | 6786880 Bay of Pigs
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I said that on wednesday as people were waving flags, worshipping the State and perpetual war, and comparing 9/11 to Veterans Day. I was like, "WTF is wrong with people?".

Just look at the lunacy going at the University of Missouri and Yale and tell me that Cultural Marxism hasn't taken hold in America?

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:42 | 6786970 Bring the Gold
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Bay, I'm a big fan of a lot of your posts going way back. Can you please define "Cultural Marxism" and why it's a threat? Can you contrast it with say what America has done globally post-WWII?

I'm quite serious. I see a lot of fear around Marxism and Socialism around here, but the threat I see personally is Crony Capitalism which is better known as Fascism.

It's been growing since 1947 act that created CIA and Pentagon. Decades of fighting Marxism later we are less free, but I feel it is Fascism that is the threat not Marxism which I really don't see In this country. What I see on college campuses is deluded lefty students swinging their dicks around.

In the halls of power it is the totalitarian bent Fascists that scare me, the neo-cons etc. Totalitarianism is scary, but right now globally is see very little Marxism and almost a global network of Fascism from China to Russia to the US.

By comparison overt Marxism is this little pathetic group of countries in Latin America. Nothing compared to the Fascist super powers.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 17:37 | 6788259 Countrybunkererd
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Fascism is absolutely the one to worry about.  We have it in droves on US soil, anywhere the US touches something really.  The blend of Marxism and Fascism is what I see happening at the moment.  The students don't know historical significance and feed right into the Crony Cap.'s hands for more power and control by the Corporation owned State.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:42 | 6787942 Victor von Doom
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Agreed. Time to go all Spanish Revolution on their ass! Up with the Nationalists!

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:16 | 6786857 Sergeiab
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War it is

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:06 | 6786864 Painful Facts
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EU is run by goldman sachs and they want war because they can war profiteer. They are trying to get the people in EU desperate for war by ruining their economies with austerity and using anti immigrant propaganda.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:26 | 6786929 EddieLomax
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There is no propoganda required to be anti-immigrant, there is a reason Stockholm became the rape capital of Europe, and it has nothing to do with the Swedes.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:46 | 6787920 IndyPat
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Well, that's a new and fun twist to Stockholm Syndrome.

Learn to love your rapists. Great. I'm sure our resident Nordic warrior Eirik Magnus the Nutless can show his neighbor's how to bend over and show them their panties. Be welcoming.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:07 | 6786867 thunderchief
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This man is what you call a Euro-fuck-tard. 

It's like saying a shit pie is better than eating nothing.

Maybe today, if your European.

I would take Hitler over this sad excuse for a future. 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:08 | 6786871 buzzsaw99
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the corleone family don't even have that kind of muscle anymore. [/moe greene]

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:11 | 6786877 VWAndy
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The stall baby. Then a right turn into barter town. Thats where the free shit army gets its ass whipped good.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 13:12 | 6786879 Demdere
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They all had armies, of course they had wars.  Except for Switzerland, that doesn't have an army.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/27/military-priorities/

And they all lost every war.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/06/high-dimensioned-games/

 

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 14:19 | 6787130 Archduke
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You are talking out of your ass. Every swiss adult is a reservist and each has an assault rifle at home, with which they practise regularly. Marsmanship standards are high, remember William Tell? These guys are chasseur alpin quality. These are the citizens, mind, not the tax refugees.

Fri, 11/13/2015 - 16:45 | 6787965 IndyPat
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Couldn't believe he wrote that. I snorted.

Wow. Mess with the Swiss and find you'r ass impaled on a lance.
Nobody here has any idea what that means, except of course a Swiss citizen. Anyone dumb enough to fuck with the Swiss could tell you, except they got skewered and died.

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