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French President Declares State Of Emergency, Enforces Curfew, Closes Borders, Reinforces Army
In the wake of the stunning wave of bombings, shootouts, and hostage situations unfolding in Paris on Friday, French President Francois Hollande has closed the French border.
Addressing the nation, President Francois Hollande called on everyone to remain strong and show “compassion and unity.”
“There is much to fear, but we must face these fears as a nation that knows how to muster its forces and will confront the terrorists,” the president said.
He has also declared a state of emergency and called for more army assistance.
- HOLLANDE SAYS STATE OF ALERT IMPOSED IN FRANCE
- HOLLANDE SAYS CLOSING FRENCH BORDERS
- HOLLANDE REQUESTS MILITARY REINFORCEMENT
The dramatic move comes amid an ongoing situation in the streets of Paris that will likely go down in history as one of the more daring terrorist attacks in history.
A series of bombs echoed through the streets followed by sporadic gunfire. What unfolded afterwards turned the streets into a veritable war zone with dozens killed thus far and a hostage situation involving some 100 people.
The move to close the border will likely serve as a rallying cry for those who oppose the accommodation of the millions of refugees seeking asylum in Europe.
The President ended his speech with "Vive la Republique et Vive la France."
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i haven't disparaged any jew but you, but just as a factual observation. israel and the zionazis are to blame for all the terror in the world. anyone who has yet to realize that is kinda slow.
"Israel (is) to blame for all the terror in the world"
Good grief...I used to enjoy reading the comments on this site back when it was a blog and you needed to pass an algebra captcha to post comments. Now it it just endless stupidity and ridiculousness as evidenced by your boneheaded logic "I don't disparage Jews, I just blame them and Israel for all the terror in the world". You are the epitome of what is wrong with this site now. I learn mostly nothing from the comments here these days except that they are mostly filled with a vile hatred for Israel.
Hey Tyler, you need to change the name of this website from zerohedge.com to ifuckinghateisrael.com. It will expand the audience you currently seem to pander to and better reflect the mindset of the audience you attract. The comments on every single report on this website are always filled with hatred and venom towards Israel. It's a fucking joke. I know what the comments will be before I ever read them. The once great and informative comments on this website have devolved into a mindless herd like droning of non stop Israel bashing. I have been reading this website for close to ten years. It has devolved into a ridiculously stupid caricature of its once intelligent self. I see that hardly any of the commenters that were here in the beginning are still posting comments. I know why. I just wish I knew where they went. This is no longer fight club. It's a hate Israel circle jerk club.
it was ISIS, therefore Syria must fall (US doublethink)
Well, lets see. In the US who has done more to destroy this nation? Muslims, or their semite brothers that run the central banks, the media, hollywood, Open Society foundation, SPLC, and many other assorted organizations whose primary goal is to destroy the instiutions and foundations the country was founded on?
Just askin.......
Oy vey - GO BERNIE!
Operation Gladio
Originally aired on BBC2 in 1992, 'Operation Gladio' reveals 'Gladio', the secret state-sponsored terror network operating in Europe.
This BBC series is about a far-right secret army, operated by the CIA and MI6 through NATO, which killed hundreds of innocent Europeans and attempted to blame the deaths on Baader Meinhof, Red Brigades and other left wing groups. Known as 'stay-behinds' these armies were given access to military equipment which was supposed to be used for sabotage after a Soviet invasion. Instead it was used in massacres across mainland Europe as part of a CIA Strategy of Tension. Gladio killing sprees in Belgium and Italy were carried out for the purpose of frightening the national political classes into adopting U.S. policies.
french screams don't melt steel beams
Israel knows that the French are the easiest to deceive - They proved that with the Charlie Hebdo HOAX - The French are basically stupid !
Please, please don't offen 'stupidity.'
This might be true, however I know of another place where The State Of Israel owns and operates a country's entire mass media. They own all of the politicians and the legal and financial systems there too.
"Close borders" means all those ME refugees will be soon shipped to US.
Gotta keep the 'Terrorist' dream alive !
The nihilist bombers did not attack a central bank, they did not attack a house of government, they did not assassinate an oligarch or prominent politician, they did attack young people at a heavy metal rock show and some people at a cafe. Islamic they are not, they are nihilists, not deep thinkers.
Anyone familiar with Slams history knows they do not go looking for high profile politicians to kill. They go after anyone that breathes including mothers and the non breathing babies they carry - since the 7th century
indeed. the ppl killed and wounded, and the locations were not legitimate military targets. This is a carefully designed provocative act.
They were probably commenters on this website.
NATO's Secret Armies: Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe (Contemporary Security Studies)
This fascinating new study shows how the CIA and the British secret service, in collaboration with the military alliance NATO and European military secret services, set up a network of clandestine anti-communist armies in Western Europe after World War II.
These secret soldiers were trained on remote islands in the Mediterranean and in unorthodox warfare centres in England and in the United States by the Green Berets and SAS Special Forces. The network was armed with explosives, machine guns and high-tech communication equipment hidden in underground bunkers and secret arms caches in forests and mountain meadows. In some countries the secret army linked up with right-wing terrorist who in a secret war engaged in political manipulation, harrassement of left wing parties, massacres, coup d'états and torture.
Codenamed 'Gladio' ('the sword'), the Italian secret army was exposed in 1990 by Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti to the Italian Senate...
rascists bastards closing the border, let all the terrorists in & show them love & give them free shit like in the USSA
Latest reports say that the Theatre 'Hostage Takers' BLEW themselves up as POLICE approached ! How FUCKING convenient ! How come most of these HOAX's happen in Theatre's ???
https://www.rt.com/news/nord-ost-terror-anniversary-827/
Was what is in this article a hoax?
I’m watching the TV.
The eyewitness on the news says no witnesses and no video of hostages being shot.
Now we get to see how 9/11 woulda' gone down if Gore had won.
Now we get to see how 9/11 woulda' gone down if Gore had won.
God grant me sympathy for refugees fleeing murderers, protection from murdering refugees, and the means to tell the difference.
Will there be a Muslim Anne Frank?
Muslim Hunt in France?
Culture and Civilization are hard to build and maintain
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What do the Syrian refugees want? The terrorism in France shows clearly there is a large group of people highly organized and funded to break up family's and scare reasonable governments in Europe.
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911 and the fallout murder and suffering is fueled by discontent, failed states, and totenkopf bigwigs pitting tribes against reasonable governments.
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Long war and refugees dont mix well with major public crimes in mega cities. Teeth hurt, cheezeburgers taste good, work is hard, life is not fair, that is normal.
I do not know why no one talks here that Israel is simply a gated community.
There have Russians, Germans, everything there is in Europe, and who takes care of the borders are the sons of bitches of rich Americans.
They know that if they loose the Jews there in Israel they are fucked.
It is best to keep them there, happy and without challenge.
Sweet illusion.
Will everyone Pro bag if you keep poking the bear and the dragon.
An imbecile Troll said something above.
I answer him (her, whatever).
Make no mistake, you do not know who you're talking about.
Let alone so many stamps there on my Brazilian passport (already there go fifteen per country).
Oh my God!
As there are stupid people in this world!
Some really need to be "Nagatizados"
You do not need much, just cut the water Dimona.
hehe.
I will draw for those who did not understand:
Nagasaki = second atomic bomb;
Be negative = suppress;
Negazaquitivar (or Negasakitivar) = turn radioactive dust;
= Dimona nuclear plant / storage of nuclear Israel ovigas.
H2O = water.
hehe.
Gentlemen and ladies, get ready.
The animal is on ...
Take a deep breath, hit in the chest and shout loudly:
- NOW fucked!
Hit dimona's water supply?
Very bad idea.
Unless yer psycho, I suppose.
THIS... is why I am a White Nationalist.
In Brasil?
Yeah!
KKKKKKKKK
Volte para sua casa Troll! Kkkkkkkk!
The advertisers send a different message.
My local news station anchors, for example are black men with white females or white males with black females.
WTF?..Illegal aliens streaming across the border from Mexico kill more than 120 Gringo's every month in the USSA from vehicular manslaughter,black tar heroin,and armed robberies,but I've never heard any outrage from the MSM over that..
Frogs jumpin everywhere!
Boiled frog
French president Francine Hollandaise Sauce said:
“There is much to fear, but we must face these fears as a nation that knows how to muster its forces and will confront the terrorists,” the president said.
So, France is going to war with the US government!
Mother France will rain down eclairs & tasteful baguettes on the Americaines...after having a nice espresso.
Still waiting for him to say this war on terror will take 30 years.
If armed citizens or cops were there, it may have turned out differently.
I will draw for those who did not understand:
Nagasaki = second atomic bomb;
Be negative = suppress;
Negazaquitivar (or Negasakitivar) = turn radioactive dust;
= Dimona nuclear plant / storage of nuclear Israel ovigas.
H2O = water.
hehe.
Gentlemen and ladies, get ready.
The animal is on ...
Take a deep breath, hit in the chest and shout loudly:
- NOW fucked!
This shit bores me. Can't personally do anything about it, and it ain't going away.
The MSM sure does love serving this gore up. If I witnessed this carnage, no way would I give these pigs an interview. I'd tell the Lester Holts, fucking creeps, to fuck the hell off.
In a stunning policy reversal, The President of France closes the borders to keep the last of the Franco-centric free thinkers from fleeing that 3rd-World Shithole.
The chiffon curtain.
France has been making enemies in the region, but not among the opponents of Assad in Syria, and there is no way Assad's people would do anything this stupid. So the "this is for Syria" claim strikes me as bogus and an attempt to divert attention.
Enemy #1 would be Israel who is not happy with the repeated French initiatives at the UN and elsewhere to push for a Palestinian State.
Enemy #2 would be Libyan forces loyal to the Gadaffi regime, France played a big role in turning that relatively prosperous nation into a shithole.
ppl really forget how much France has fucked over northern african muslim countries in their quest for colonialism in their history. These islamic terrorists dont forget that shit.
on the good side for France, their football team is now better at least
Israel needs a good smack across the face and may get it.
Wait until israel bombs russians. The media will spin the retal as an attack on poor defenseless israel. Imagine the fucking crazy that would yield.
Hollande asleep at the wheel. France sends Aircraft Carrier and bombs Syria infastructure. Ok. Did Hollande believe there would be no backlash? What did Hollande do to protect French citizens once he authorized the bombing of Syria? Is it any wonder that Britain, when asked, declined to do the same in Syria? So much news BS.
Hollande asleep at the wheel. France sends Aircraft Carrier and bombs Syria infastructure. Ok. Did Hollande believe there would be no backlash? What did Hollande do to protect French citizens once he authorized the bombing of Syria? Is it any wonder that Britain, when asked, declined to do the same in Syria? So much news BS.
The way to defend the French people is not to bomb in the first place. save their lives and their souls.
Who stands to gain from this?
Wall St
Think the Feds gonna raise rates going into a war (covert or overt)?
the usual suspects
- MIC.
- Zionistas
- neocon blowhards and warmongers, but I repeat myself
- haters of freedom - i.e the gubmit
Marine Le Pen and all conservative, nationalistic European political parties.
Assad, Putin Erdogan.
Europe will part with US on who is the bad guys. We need the bad guys.
For example my country Norway is struggling on the Russian border. The Russians are letting all the Afghans, Syrians and people from other countries go straight through the border (even though they are obliged to stop them as they do on the Finish border), and creating huge problems. And there are hundred of thousands of refugees in Russia that can be lured into Norway because there are no jobs and no welfare state in Russia.
This will make it easier for Russia to get support from Norway the next time countries are discussing sancions regarding the Ukraine situation.
The Zionists, of course.
I suppose your question was rhetorical.
Any mayhem in Arab lands is good for Israel. While the Muslims fight each other, they cannot organize against Tel Aviv.
Their plan should be patently obvious.
Buyers of military & security contractor stocks.
ISIS using US Army equipment in Iraq
http://www.thenation.com/article/isis-is-using-us-military-hardware-to-f...
Suspicions Run Deep in Iraq That CIA and the Islamic State Are United
https://t.co/sKUfFC7v0l
Why Iran believes ISIS is a US creation: http://time.com/3720081/isis-iran-us-creation/ …
See a pattern here?
http://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-...
IS may or may not be a direct invention of MI-6, CIA, or even Mossad. You have to keep an open mind. What is not being said is that the Saudis have produced millions of Wahhabist followers who morphed into IS. Now, Al-Mossad is guilty of conning the western countries into thinking they could arm "moderate" terrists, haha, there is no such thing. By using their secret agents like McCain, they got arms to these guys who immediately went over to IS.
I suppose you could say in the end, however, the West ultimately did create IS by default if not by purpose.
Can't we all just get along ?
Not when muslims are involved.
Candy bar, the victors are not heard by the cries of wolves.
Brother Nathanael explains monetary control.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baHS0n3MrT8
Published on Oct 30, 2015R-othschild J-ewish M-afia Control U-S. W-ar
Especially when Muslims are involved AND influenced by Al-Mossad.
Not when people in general are involved.
don't ever get along with a zionazi. he will anally explore you at the first chance he gets.
Holland, send more bombs and weapons to Middle East, evidently killing them does not matter, only when French people die does it matter...
Zionists are working overtime on this one.
Syria IS French. After WWI, as a result of the Sykes-picot agreement, France got the Leage of Nationals mandate for Syrai and Lebanon, which is why french is more widely spoken than english in those countries. Today, France thinks of Syrai as part of their influence. They're putting their one and only aircraft carrier, this week, rather than use the British airforce base in Cyprus.
Does this have anything to do with today's murders? Maybe. But they must have had it in process long before they knew that France was sending it's carrier.
Mostly it is because France, withi it's silly, delf-destructive political correctness is a vulnerable target to the murderous Muzzies. The Muzzies want Europ for themselves. They'll turn it into another primitive wasteland, but in the interim, they'll use European culture and politics for their own goals. They are simply not intelligent enough to create, so they destroy and borrow.
To me, the question is what will happen after this ... the consequences.
Does France kick butt and deport/murder it's Muzzies? Does Le Pen take office? Does Merkel lose her office? Do the German people, knowing that they're next, take some "precautionary" measures? What happens to the EURO ideals?
And in the US, in the upcoming election, does this hurt Clinton and help Trump? Will Obama have to play a price for his idiocy and anti-American ideals?
INquiring minds want to know!
It isn't a question of intelligence, it is a question of philosphy, attitude and revenge. And what's that cliche? When you've lost everything you have nothing to lose? Or something like that.
As for "intelligence", how intelligent are the French? Or any NATO/EU "leader"? They are totally self-destructive, and completely insane.
Furthermore, French/NATO/EU "leaders" and these terrorists are both massive destroyers... the only difference being the following. The EU leaders destroy more slowly, but destroy everyone. The terrorists destroy quickly... but only one individual and one structure at a time. But they're both destroyers.
However, the French/NATO/EU "leaders" were the aggressors, they invaded Syria and other places in the mid-east in past years and decades FIRST, and the terrorists are only RESPONDING.
Which should make any intelligent human ask, who are really terrorists? Answer: the aggressors. And that is the French/USSA/NATO/EU.
Sometimes the truth hurts, eh? BUT... put the blame where it belongs, on the so-called "leaders" of France/USSA/NATO/EU. To be sure, some of their citizen-slaves also deserve blame for being stupid and/or corrupt enough to sanction, support and fund the aggression. Obviously many citizens/slaves/folks prefer to leave other people alone, which does not invite/demand retaliation. They are not to blame.
Let me ask you something - do you believe every muslim is out to kill you?
Why do you, personally, seem to tow the fox news line - do you not think it possible that a western intelligence agency might organize or otherwise arm and fund islamic terrorists?
Do tou know who started al qaeda and hamas?
What did the hebdo attackers gain versus what netanyahu seemed to gain?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2955293/French-PM-slams-Israel-s...
Do you know bibis background or his terrorist family's?
Do you know anything about psychopathy or narcissism?
http://youtu.be/rFr4C2BPLeM
What do you think jewish untranationslists and orthodox religious want? Or what they think about you?
This is genuine 'whats your take/info' stuff. Im not telling you you are right or wrong. Im curious why anyone with an internet connection is not open to the notion of islamic terrorists used as proxies by the us and Israel.
Why arent we the evil empire? Have you considered the sheer amount of wars and civilian dead over the past 20 or 60 years?
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/u-s-military-agents-deployed-to-147-...
And why do you assume muslim terrorism is not in some part caused by bombing muslim countries for 12 years? 1.2 billion people are all evil? The malaysians and sufis and indonesians kill more than british protestants have??
What have you changed your mind about by reading anything here? Anything?
Would this shock you?: http://youtu.be/YSy6ENVAJlY
Is he lying? Why? Was shahak too?
http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/shahak.html
1.2 billion muslims and decades of being killed by jews, americans, british and french - but they are all evil because why - the koran?
Ok - have you read the torah? Why not?
Know about israeli terrorism in the 20s, 30/s, and 40s? Why is hezbollah or the IRA terrorists but those european jews who blew up hotels can get awards from israel? Why dont hundreds of examples of Israeli state terrorism- bombing hospitals and schools, killing teens with rocks from apcs in land that isnt even isrsel - what does it take to convince you to at least consider that soneone like me is neither ignorant or dishonest or dumb, that in fact we may be on to something?
Im asking. Ill reply if asked
Is every Muslim out to kill me? No. Is every cancer malignant? No.
Meaningless verbiage.
is that a confession?
"To me, the question is what will happen after this ... the consequences."
This Paris incident and a few others over recent times must cause European countries to urgently re-assess their open door policies and relationship with Islam.
The EU-crats have got to understand and accept that Islam is not compatible with Western culture. Westerners do not want Sharia law and all the rest of Islam's totalitarian madness which includes beheadings, crucifixions, amputations, savage floggings and other assorted ghastly tortures carried out in medieval dungeons.
Let them keep all that if they want but we cannot allow them to impose it onto us by mass invasion using the excuse of being refugees.
The time may have arrived when Moslems across Europe have got to be forcibly deported back to their M/E sandpits and elsewhere.
Islam is a pretty peaceful faith for the most part. However, history shows it was spread by the sword. Having read their book, it is easy to see where passages can easily be used to justify violence.
Christianity under Charles the Great had a similar phase- Charlemagne went after the Germanic tribes with a sword trying to force conversion.
Unfortunately, the Koran and the ME culture lead to the militarization of Islam. You don't have to hate them, but you DO have to keep their influence out of your country, as the Sharia law system is 180 degrees out of phase with western democratic ideology and church-state separation.
No amount of Leftist Hope will change this. Having traveled as much as I have been fortunate to do, Muslims will not integrate except at academic and professional levels. The Zionists did every nation wrong by knocking off the Secular States like Syria and Iraq, plus Libya. They tried to knock out Egypt with their Muslim Brotherhood agents, but the Egyptian Army took care of that. It is too bad the rank-and-file MB do not understand the penetration of their leadership by Al-Mossad.
The Iranians threatened France if they move the DeGaulle into Syrian waters. Now, I many be mistaken and it could have been the Syrians, but I think it was Iran because they can retaliate via submarine.
Now the attacks have served to push off the Iranian threat. France has suffered its "9/11." For the Iranians to attack a French carrier would now put them on the worong side.
The Iranians would be better off sending spies in to knock out influential Zionistas.
will someone please let me know when i am suppose to hate russia because they are somehow responsible for this. i don't want my sheeple cred diminished.
Communism and Islam are two worst things human invented.
I would say capitalism is the worst - it is the capitalists who have sponsored/fiannced virtually all such movements in pursuit of their greed.
well, real communism is the opposite fo what your corrupted western education system is teaching you... and for a good reason, because equality would destroy their way of life (being a parasites) :-P
Nuclear Bombs and Ski Pants are two worst things human invented.
All trails lead to, all fingers point at "The Usual Suspects" - y'know, those who operate "By Way Of Deception"
"Al-Mossad."
i have a simple question :
why would "terrorist", having planned kamikaze-style attacks where they know they'll die in the end, screaming allah akbar to the crowd before shooting ... wear masks ???!!!
i mean is it writen somewhere in the coran and thus am i wrong thinking shooters and shot-down-terrorists might not be the same people ?
Not entirely true. The terrorists in the Bataclan attack apparently had uncovered faces according to the eyewitness reports I heard. One eyewitness described one of the attackers as "black-covered, young --possibly around 25 years old -- and unmasked...they were very calm"
It's in the Langley manuals...the section on muslim terrr'st false flags.
They were not shot to dead. They bombed themselves when the Special Police arrived.
Suicide bombings will give them 82 virgins in Paradise (or something like that). At least that is what the poor kids in the suburbs of Paris, London etc are told by people instigating the terror attacks.
A guerilla action thst can be tied to a specific geo locale such as isis has, due to us/israeli/saudi/turkish support if not outright ab initio creation, provides an excuse for nato to go into syria.
Excuse- isis
Reality - regime change and oded yinon balkanization and stone ageing.
None of this is a bit funny but if this is blamed on Assad I will laugh my ass off (probably to ludicrous of an accusation even for that crowd). Nobody has any problem believing that some demented war torn Syrians or possibly even ISIS evacuees would rape and pillage in Europe but this is attack state backed for sure. People need to get beyond their "Muzzie" bent and see what's going on here. Anybody who thinks otherwise must have been unconscious for the last decade and a half..... or they are stuck in a reality box.
It's like Groundhog Day of idiotic memes which lead to war... good frickin gawd!
No one is going to blame it on Assad; it's clearly Bush's fault.
USrael....
Nobody will blame Assad. France has been the Eurpean country (apart from Russia) which has been most aggessively bombing IS, and it seems that IS will get the blame.
The retaliation from France will be swift and brutal, just like the country was brutal when they were fighting in Algeria.
And unlike in the US, several of the European countries are beginning to see Assad as a part of the solution in Syria, and they will warm to Putin and his way of thinking in Syria.
I think this will divide Europe and US with regards to the view of Assad.
Great. If the French unload on IS like they did in Algeria, IS will be getting THEIR heads cut off.
The Russians will be blamed. Haven't you noticed that in every arrticle, every interview with 'witnesses', the word 'Kalashnikov' is mentioned.
On BBC radio, no more than an hour ago, a 'witness' being interviewed started with the info that he heard the 'gunfire from a kalashnikov....well...but...I couldn't be sure it was a kalashnikov...bla, bla bla'.
The average European wouldn't have a dickie bird what a gun shot sounds like, let alone from an automatic.
I turned offf.....crisis actor.
This has Wayne LaPierre's finger prints all over it. I'm sure this attack was carried out by some sick NRA members who picked up their sickening assault weapons at a gun show with no questions asked. It's time we started listening to our good leaders in congress like Chuck Schumer, Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, and Carl Levin to name a few and the folks who head up gun control groups like Josh Sugarmann of the violence policy center and other good Americans like Michael Bloomberg and Gabrielle Giffords. Those folks are all part of the same race... Yep, you guessed it, the HUMAN RACE.
Sarcasm, right?
Sarcasm
sarc?
Retard?
Sarcasm.
I think 911 back fired on every level.
depends on POV. It has worked out splendidly for the only nuke armed ME nation, the MIC, and neocon blowhards, but not so much for everyone else.
Just does smell right to me. Why attack the youth and not the bourgeois? Why on a Friday when the markets would be least impacted? Very odd.
Because false flag events are designed to anger and intimidate regular folks, who then accept whatever extra powers predators-DBA-government want.
As it turns out, the vast majority of terrorist events the past decades have almost certainly been planned, sponsored and/or executed by predators-DBA-government and predators-DBA-centralbank.
Why? Timing.
http://news.yahoo.com/syria-army-takes-key-rebel-town-south-aleppo-13373...
The meeting in vienna. The friday the 13th thing will preoccupy morons.
It is sad to see the zh comments section so overrun with people who believe fox news, think the us and israel can do no wrong, and cant imagine that extremely well funded intelligence agencies use proxies, deception and false flags because they never spent the time reading about the various 'false flags' that over time are now received as actual false flags.
The uss liberty was not a 2.5 hour mistake in which israel could not identify a us vessel in international waters that clearly was not egyptian, yadda yadda. It was a failed attempt to sink a us ship prevent it gathering intel (including mass executions by israel of egyptian pows) and primarily, an attempt to blame the sinking on egypt. It is impossible to study the matter in depth and accept the mistake notion - in fact it is absurd. But some people see all such discussion as just 'hate' so dont ever consider the evidence. Or they simply are ifnorant of the history of government deceptions *in general*
Lavon affair is an *admitted* false flag, the jews dressed as arabs to bomb the king david hotel - not controversial. Iran contra not a 'ff' but a scheme that would be deemed 'wild conspiracy theory' if they werent caught.
Theres really no doubt the brits dressed as arsbs in the south of iraq especially blew up mosques and sunni and shia areas to foment a civil war. A few were caught red hanfed and jailed and broken out of a jail by the brits - no doubt there.
9/11 is more controversial but the outright rejection of a zionist coup because 'thats just an antisemitic conspiracy theory' asserts that while refusing, ab initio, to consider mountains of evidence from policy papers to mossad agents caught and held for months.
http://youtu.be/QphxGBXiA-M
How could they sit through this video and do some honest googling, and sincerely claim that there is no way Israel was involved?
And if israel was involved there, 'isis' as a us/Israeli proxy becomes less difficult to consider. But even without 9/11 - if you dont understand that the us (absolutely riddled with zionists - and aipac lobbying. For goodness sakes the obsequiousness to israel from every politician in the superpower is absurd without zionist control of politics)
So as far as I can see, those who reject israeli involvement, who ''junk" reports of israeli spying and war crimes or junk reports of settler violence - they are basically ultranationalist whackjobs, racists, and liars.
So I dont care about them.
This could be genuine blowback. But if its 'isis' it is the us and israel, and this is a pretext to send nato into syria. Note the timing.
In all probability this was real muslim terrorists organized, marionettes by the us/israel and/or saudis - but the randomness and targets and timing on a friday before a meeting on syria that threatened, just threatened LEAVING ASSAD IN POWER and a relatively stable state - the anglo-zionists want this least of all.
The russian plane was likely the israelis given various factors, maybe not, but to reject the possibility requires ignorance of history and obdurate dishonesty.
Watching obama talk about universal human values - is Full Metal Orwell.
Very few if any 'paid trolls' are on an economics blog this size - sorry. But the megaphone/hasbara element, mindless, uncritical champions of israel no matter what it does are legion anywhere the articles and comments become known as negative -israel. Then there are fox news types with the american flag pin in their lapel and mindless hate of russia and belief of the msm narrative learning not a thing from iraq. And sure, some go too far in adoring putin because he resists anglo-zionist magalomania and state terror - but the people upset with that are just angry that anyone doesnt agree with the bullshit propaganda Americans are bludgeoned with. They believe the teevee totally.
Zionists shills here who reject israeli involvement are simply not able to process the possibility. They drank the israel as sacred victim kool aid. They wont look at the dancing israelis, explosives in a van, zim shipping, dom sutrr - no, for a zionist, they literally can not even begin to consider massive evidence, ehile they will believe any accusation made about iran or russia or palestinians based on nothing more thsn what an israeli official says.
Isis is clearly enjoying us and israeli and saudi and turkish support, whether they were created or coopted - isis is a pitbull on a leash. But given what they do they seem mainly so far to be preventing a pipeline (irans) not creating a situation where one runs through.
Israel is developing off shore gas it wants to sell, it wants to steal more of golan on a pretext and massacre gazans and lebanese. It wants lebensraum and balkanized neighbors
Oded yinon plan
A clean break:anew strategy for securing the realm
Rebuilding americas defenses (pnac)
Which path to Persia
If you do not know these documents, you dont know a great deal of relevant evidence going to motive. If you want a partial only but quick summary:
http://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-...
Who has influence?
What have policy papers by them said?
Why was the evidence to justify iraq as bin laden was still free
Fabricated and why did msm question nothing?
Who benefits or what *reaction* is created in a population?
If they blame isis, it will very likely be a pretext to send a real ground force into syria and iraq to finish a stable central syrian government and carve it up. Turkey is a wildcard. israels leadership is drunk with the arrogance of fooling the general public for years and thinks it can intimidate russia because of us backing, but they clearly hope to get the us to send more blood and treasure to iran but those who hate russia more than they want to give israel lebensraum also want to ratchet up ukraine.
Charlie hebdo was likely a mossad run op. Netanyahus expressions and mannerisms told me that as much as means motive etc - he is an ultra nationalist. He is also a psychopath.
We cant say we "know" such things - tends to be how we write but of course all these are beliefs based on apprehension of evidence and inference.
But they are very plausible.
What is not plausible is isis is just evil muslims ((who are all evil -1.2 billion people all bad, a standard that results in vans and prison when applied to jews, who as a group are cery highly ethnocentric in their host countries which is why theres aleays been friction- they drive for immigration to destroy any ethnic cohesion amongst a minority. Seth Rogen feels comfortable enough to heavily mock Christmas in a way that would have him tweeting 'antisemite,' the fat dumb fuck, were jewish traditions or the holy-cost subject to mocking.
the Grand Chessboard for russia (with a somewhat autonomous jewish/zionist scheme, Russia having suffered under Jewish domination with the Old Bolsheviks and under the post ussr oligarchs and judeo-russian mobs. Facts with abundant evidence of the jewish elites desire to dominate and suck the blood from Russia, and those who read that and react emotionally do not pause for even a moment to consider that a group that survived due to ethnocentrism in dozens of host countries seeks again to dominate Russia. But the jewish elite is protected by 'antisemite' - but again all muslims are evil or all palestinians... Its dealing with people who arent aleats lying - they just see the us and israel as white hats and opponents as all bad. The notion that the governments of the us and israel are sick murderous fucks just doesnt compute. We have news, any different story must be propaganda. We dont engage in terror. The us/israel are always the good guys.
When you see it - forget it. Its like arguing with religious nuts with their circular and selective logic - 'it is true because i believe it ' they think- it is brainwashed thinking.
If someone does not summon evidence and explicate motive and is blind to obvious things like support for isis or jewish/zionist hyperpower... They are incapable of DOUBT and so can not by definition have a genuine discussion.
'In essence, by identifying such rigid, closed to evidence a priori commenters, the overall level of discussion will get better.
The youth are the future, the bourgeois are useful idiots who get the message to do nothing
We need fresh youth bodies to fill uniforms with silly.
Forget the Zio French conspiracies. This is simply #MuzzieLivesMatter gone up a couple of notches. France which should be in a Socialist insane asylum gave asylum to so many Slams that they now comprise 15 percent of Parisians.
No one remembers the Moslems burning 1000+ French cars a couple of years ago. They've been doing this since the 7th Century. Research how quickly Spain became dominated by them FOR SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS
#WhiteEuropeansAreStupid. Nobody to brag about, David Duke
Just waiting for Moslem-named Obama to address the world and request there be no backlash against Slams "because of the actions of a few."
All I remember is 911 and several Israel men dancing while "recording the event," driving vans with murals of WTC twin towers being impaled by jetliners, bombs in one of them and then being released to return to Israel, never to be heard from or about ever again.
Any reports of dancing Isrealis in France?
Your argument distills to - forget any alternative to muslims did it and not as proxies because muslims are bad.
Whether or not you are right, this isnt an argument. Its a naked assertion based on group hate and rejection without argument of other possibilities- like real jihadis run by cia/'mossad the day before a scheduled conference on syria re restabilization - but lets see if the pretext develops and NATO now has reason to invade syria on the excuse of isis but really to remove assad and break syria up into squabbling statelets?
Why is the oded yinon / clean break / rebuilding anericas defenses / which path to persia stuff not suggestive of a pre-existing plan?
What a out wedley clarkes 7 nations 5 years thing?
Did the cia *not* create al qaeda in your view or something?
http://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-...
Might you be wrong?
Muslims have been going on jihad and killing the non-believers long before the CIA was even formed.
Go back to fucking your cousin, redneck.
Probably false flag, possibly ISIS paid and organized by neocons. Or, less likely some regular folks in Syria got tired of NATO bombing their infrastructure (while claiming they were bombing ISIS), and decided to retaliate where they could.
Gee, I wonder how these events would have played out differently if French people made a habit of walking around with pistols on their hips and in their purses. If these kinds of events become more common, the anti-gun advocates are gonna have a difficult time answering that question. If regular folks are armed, terrorists will be terrified... or at least much less effective (stopped quickly). Imagine that. Of course Obomber will tell you not to imagine that, since he only wants his jack-booted thugs armed.
Now the brilliance of the EU "leaders" should be obvious. Go bomb the crap out of nearby nations on false pretenses (to supposedly eraticate terrorists your side formed, funded, organized but instead to destroy infrastructure) while inviting millions of people whose lives you destroyed flood into your backyards.
Brilliant plan! /sarcasm
Worked perfectly.
PS: The unstated subtext: the spin will be "blame Russia".
and blame the NRA. Somehow, these perps must have gotten these weapons via the 'gun show loophole' and then went to France and did this crap. If only we were fully disarmed here, none of this would happen.............
Are you saying there is an NRA "gun show loophole"... in France? Surely you're not saying some Syrians traveled to the USSA, bought some guns, then checked them as baggage on a flight to France, then carried out these actions? Are you? :-o
OTOH, the fact this makes no sense at all would never stop Obomber or libtards from making such silly statements and claims... which I assume must be your point.
"I wonder how these events would have played out differently if French people made a habit of walking around with pistols on their hips and in their purses. If these kinds of events become more common, the anti-gun advocates are gonna have a difficult time answering that question. If regular folks are armed, terrorists will be terrified... or at least much less effective (stopped quickly). Imagine that. Of course Obomber will tell you not to imagine that, since he only wants his jack-booted thugs armed."
This is true honestann. However, it's fair to say that since personal weapons have been banned in most of Europe for a very long time, citizens have become ever more accepting of this socialist, anti-liberty theory. They see The State as responsible for their safety and security and have happily given up every one of their freedoms in return for that promise. Of course we all know they get nothing in return but that will take another 50 years to sink in.
Probably true. Hopefully the few non-suckers remaining in the USSA won't be as stupid.
Also, I wonder... but just wonder. If these kinds of events become common enough, and harmful enough... maybe, just maybe... that would be enough to convince many in the population to reconsider how stupid this attitude is.
No matter where you live, cops rarely arrive until the action is over. Which means "much too late". It should be fairly obvious that only individuals can effectively defend themselves and others nearby.
It never fails that so many here appear to be intelligent and often drop the baton on the last lap.
Illuminati allegedly came about in the late 18th C.
So if I believe your premise that some Great Hand is controlling events, then it would be necessary for Islam to NEVER have done similar acts BEFORE your Illuminati showed up.
Unfortunately for your premise, Islam was doing this from day one, and the tribes that existed in pre-Islamic territory, the ones soon absorbed into Islam by Mohammed, behaved like this at the time of their subsumation into Islam and many centuries prior extending beyond any known oral or written history of the area back into the mists of ancient pre-history.
Thus one asks Occam's Question:
Which is more likely? That Islam, now funded by trillions in Petrodollars and slush funds from multiple sources, is doing what it has done since AD610, or the French are a victim of machinations beyond your control via the Illuminati (an organisation that has only existed - you claim - for a few hundred years), who intend to destabilise society?
It's more likely that Islam is doing what it has for nearly 1500 years.
Let me start with a disclaimer. I know little about long-term history, so feel free to discount any of my opinions that depend on long-term history.
However, please don't call the illuminati "my illuminati". They don't belong to me, I am not part of them, I am not associated with them... or any other group.
I also don't believe in any "great hand"... only individual human beings (both ancient and current).
Also understand that "human harms human" is very different than "some long gone ancestor of some human harmed some long gone ancestor of some other human".
Know that I do not consider a "great, great grandchild" of some evil, nasty, diabolical mass-murderer to be responsible for the egregious deeds of his murderous "great, great, grandfather".
So I may have a different perspective than you (and/or most past and current evil-doers) about actions and justifications for actions.
Yes, I do understand that extremely nasty people have existed for millennia, and have done evil, nasty, murderous things for millennia.
And yes, I do understand that some humans hold grudges that extend to subsequent generations... sometimes even several generations.
However, I have to believe, and I do believe, two additional things:
#1: Almost everyone is more angered by RECENT ATROCITIES.
#2: Almost everyone is more angered by HARM DONE TO THEM.
And that's why my analysis focused on recent & current actions. While I certainly could be wrong, I am willing to bet the primary and possibly only motivation for current events are recent events.
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I have no doubt that a small minority of humans have been so incessantly propagandized about long-past events in other generations that they become sufficiently angered and motivated to retaliate out of context... meaning "generations too late to take revenge on the perpetrators". So I don't totally discount your point.
I also understand that different groups of people tend to have different characteristics, because attitudes do indeed tend to be passed on from generation to generation. So I don't discount your point here either.
However, while I might be wrong in degree of emphasis sometimes, I continue to believe that almost every humans is vastly more motivated by harm done to him, family, friends and neighbors than harm done to their ancestors generations ago. Not that no motivation exists to "settle old scores" or "revisit age-old grudges".
So to attempt to answer you, I will go this far in your direction. If someone harms you or others near [and dear to] you... chances are higher you will retaliate IF their ancestors also harmed your/their ancestors, and you have been taught since birth to hate and hold grudges against "certain other types of people" in "certain other places".
No doubt that is true for most people.
However, I continue to suspect that the vast majority of people the vast majority of times are not sufficiently motivated to go kill a bunch of other people, and likely get themselves killed in the process... absent recent inciting events.
Also, I don't consider French (or Muslim/other) "leaders" to be innocent or victims. Just the opposite. They are ALMOST ALWAYS the ones who plan and cause those events that incite the disaster, then fan the flames of hate in their general populations, then [often] plan and send mercenaries or pawns to carry out the atrocities.
NO SO-CALLED LEADERS ARE INNOCENT.
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I'm not sure this fully answers your point or not. And yes, I know very little about the gripes and actions from long past. Nonetheless, I continue to believe that most (but maybe not all) harmful actions taken today would not occur without someone stirring up the hate, fanning the flames and/or causing inciting events.
I don't believe that "bombing their infrastructure to rubble today" is not what led to these actions today. I suspect events today were retaliation for recent destruction performed by current leaders on current infrastructure in recent weeks. That is, assuming the events today were not a false flag by the USSA, Mossad or allies.
Don't you?
it is more like what has israel and the west done in the mid east since the 1800s and especially since 1948. deflecting blame is your specialty on these subjects and you always miss the catalyst for all the problems of mid east since 1948.
Say what you want about Israel, but the Israelis seem to have no problem arming up.
I found your "less likely" scenario far more likely that your "probably". You have to admit some of the stuff that walks around looking like a duck, swimming like a duck, and quacking like a duck...is a duck. Besides, when the stage has been set the way it is, it not like they can't still make use of these crisis when they occur.
Anyone else heard the "Jungle" in Calais is burning?
https://www.rt.com/news/321967-calais-refugee-camp-fire/
Totally unrelated, per authorities, of course
that started before this...
I understood there is over 2000 mosques in US....
and new ones financed by Saudis Wahabi sect
The tragedy of the Paris attacks are that they are so predictable.
If there is real anger it should be directed to the French government who have left the borders open to scum. This is the result.
They say it is terrorism/guerilla warfare but it isn't, in the long run it is a numbers game and on that account I make the score ISIS 1 Western World 0.
What? Open borders is a good thing, that's why the US has same policy, no?
*Apologies I thought my original comment had been moderated*
Imagine yourself at a restaurant with your family and a crew of these terrorist nut jobs surprise ambush through the door with AK battle rifles blazing. Even with concealed carry, you are hopelessly outmatched. On top of that you would have to be one hell of a warrior to even get your weapon out and fire it because chances are you would be pissing all over yourself and frozen stiff. If you did get a shot or two off, all hell would be coming down on you in short order. The only defense against this is never to let it happen. Get these people out of our country.
What you say is true. However, if 50% or 25% or even 10% of "everyone" is carrying, the way such events play out would be very different.
Not that "nobody will get hurt", but fewer innocents would get hurt, and most battles would be over in minutes, not hours or days.
One potential partial solution is to be more careful about who is let in [with little or no identification, inspection or qualification].
BUT... the best solution is to NOT invade and bomb the infrastructure of their homes and businesses in the first place! The problem is, predators-DBA-governments and predators-DBA-centralbanks will never stop their domination, aggression, intimidation, destruction and theft.
And so, the only viable solution is to eliminate the predators who cause all these consequences... many kinds and levels of consequences.
The solution is to identify the fundamental root cause from which all these other causes, effects and consequences flow... then eliminate that root cause. And that root cause is those human predators who call themselves "central banks" and "governments" (starting with the neo-con-jobs and similar).
Yes. The zionists should be clearly marked and re-settled somewhere where they can simply focus on killing each other. Mars perhaps?
Better yet, send all zionists and neocons to the sun. There's something elegant about that solution.
That'll work.
If that's the scenario I have to face I'll take the handgun over the dinner fork. You didn't actually offer an alternative to your scenario. Not having stupid immigration policies is great, but it's no guarantee against your scenario.
Hard to define the "problem", watching the "reaction" unfold..... wonder what the "solution" will end up being.
This opportunity will not go to waste.
All of you "false flag" believers for these Paris Attacks are idiots who have never spent time in the sandbox. of course Islamic Extremists did this. The Jihadis realize that they are fighting for 20% of the world's known oil reserves.
Whoever wins this war in the Middle East will control the world.
The Infiltraton of Europe via the 'refugees' is part of this war.
Wake up man, you're in OJ land.
Your "control the world" comment is way over-the-top. To have oil reserves is great. But to have 20% of them isn't nearly sufficient to "control the world".
I'd also imagine a great number of people are tired of being invaded and bombed back to the stone-age by craven predators-DBA-governments. That alone should be sufficient to royally piss off any living being, and motivate some of them to retaliate.
Juvenile analysis.
1. Islamic extremists were created by the ZIA to cleanse the middle east lands to make way for the greater israel fantasy. Now these terrah attacks are designed to shake the panties of the jews in France to emigrate into this newly formed fantasy land.
2. Oil is abiotic so the whole scarcity concept is naught.
Francois Holland picks fights, starts wars, forces EU citizens to kneel before the unelected Eurocrats, and to pay taxes to start wars in Ukraine, Syria, etc.
And yet, he is the only one the French security forces kept safe. The taxpayers who paid for the security forces are left to fend for themselves?
That's the real problem, both in the EU and the USA. McCain thinks its fun to antagonize the terrorists -- because he has secret service protection, while US voters get killed.
Obama and Holland both kick hornets nests, then act surprised (from behind secret service barriers) when the hornets attack the helpless taxpayers
Amen.
+10000
Well said. It's pathetic to see Hollande being whisked away to safety from the Stade de France by his army of security guards. MSM would have us believe that getting him away to hide is the only thing that matters.
Is that part of 'dollar' operation, so dollars in europe will fly to the safety of US. Some dollars just left south china sea region.
When you pursue a reckless/dangerous foreign policy, bad things can happen, or stated somewhat differently, “you reap what you sow”. Exhibit A- Paris, 2015, aka blowback 101. See: Under the Disguise of The “Battle against Terrorism”: The U.S., Britain and France Support “Al Qaeda in Syria”; Link: www.globalresearch.ca/under-the-disguise-of-the-battle-against-terrorism.... QED
I have long been a believer that gun control legislation is pointless bullshit. Look at Switzerland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland
That policy seems to work for them and if you have noticed, no one goes in and fucks with Switzerland. Switzerland also does not decide that it needs to send out out military forces all over the world. The idea works. Arm your citizens Hollande.
earlier today Mr. Obama said ISIS was contained...and I'm the klown.
Why don't the French have laws against people carrying AKs and grenades?
Laws cannot and do not stop predators-DBA-government and other predators who do things like this. Laws are NEVER the solution.
For everyone or many to be prepared and ready to defend themselves and others is the immediate short-term solution. To stop bombing the crap out of other people is the core fundamental solution.
As long as predators-DBA-government bomb innocents and their infrastructure, some will be motivated to retaliate in various ways.
Plus, this may well be a false flag event organized, funded and caused by predators-DBA-government for some purpose (to justify further destruction of Syria, to point blame at Russia, to embolden anti-gun advocates, or all-the-above).
BTW, who do you THINK has assault rifles and grenades? Did it every occur to people that governments always have an endless supply of these and other destructive items available at all times?
Rule #1 NEVER mix to colors of Koolaid you've been drinking 'cause your puke will look like shit and that's precisely what most of the comments look like on here tonight. The genuine military on here stick out because they actually know stuff. They actually know where Syria is and that it's not majority Muslim. (Actually a fair number of our own troops and veterans are Muslim.)
Rule #2 Stop feeding The Beast! Stop using banks, use local credit unions, and above all stop using credit! Until you can apply this rule you are already a prisoner in the for profit system and are ENABLING this whole mess.
France bombs ISIS, ISIS vows to retaliate, a group of muslims attack people in Paris. It's not rocket science. For those thinking it's a false flag, there's no point to one. France already bombs in Syria, it already has a lot more muscle on the way to Syria, there was no need for further justification. France is already at war.
ISIS == USSA terrorist-mercenaries. France and USSA are bombing infrastructure in Syria, not ISIS.
However, your analysis is close to correct, you just have the actors a bit confused. Which is very easy these days, since all the western predators-DBA-government are lying about who is who, their goals, what they are doing, and why.
Barry is pushing US in same direction .... beware Iran
Solution:
1.) Close EU borders
2.) Deport all illegal immigrants
3.) EU border patrol on outside borders
4.) Eliminate anyone crossing illegally border