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Passport Found Next To Paris Suicide Bomber Belongs To Syrian "Political Refugee" Who Entered Greece
Exactly two months ago we reported that as Europe's biggest refugees crisis since World War II was getting worse with each passing day, suddenly Europe was flooded with reports of "ISIS Terrorists" posing as refugees.
What we said we disturbingly prophetic when looking at the immediate consequences of Europe's "infiltration" by the CIA-crated fighters meant to overthrow Assad's regime, also known as ISIS. Specifically, we said "focus on the propaganda, [which] is in full crisis mode: A recent article in the UK Express Daily claimed that IS “smuggled thousands of covert jihadists into Europe.” It cited a January BuzzFeed interview with an IS operative who said the militants have already sent some 4,000 fighters into Europe under guise of refugees.
This was the first of two punchlines, underlined for effect:
"These speculations have not been confirmed by Western security officials, although that's only temporary: as the need to ratchet up the fear factor grows, expect more such reports of asylum seekers who have penetrated deep inside Europe, and whose intentions are to terrorize the public. Expect a few explosions thrown in for good effect."
The second:
"And since everyone knows by now "not to let a crisis go to waste" the one thing Europe needs is a visceral, tangible crisis, ideally with chilling explosions and innocent casualties. We expect one will be provided on short notice."
Overnight we got both numerous "chilling explosions" as well as "innocent casualties" on a sufficiently short notice, just as predicted.
Just one thing was missing: a link between the Paris suicide bombers (for whose actions ISIS has already claimed responsibility) and refugees.
That missing link appeared earlier today today, when the Greek government said that not only was a Syrian passport found next to the body of one of the suicide bombers in Paris yesterday, but that passport was registered on the Greek island of Leros, suggesting that the holder came into Europe claiming to be a political refugee according to Bloomberg.
The passport was recorded by Greek officials on Oct. 3, Greek Deputy Citizen Protection Minister Nikos Toskas said on a statement posted on the ministry’s website Saturday. Toskas said he didn’t know whether the passport was later processed by other authorities elsewhere in Europe.
The full statement, google translated:
Statement by the Deputy Minister of Citizen Protection Nikos Tosca on terrorist attacks in Paris
The Deputy Minister of Citizen Protection Nikos Toskas announces the following:
"On the case of the Syrian passport found at the scene of the terrorist attack.
We announce that the passport holder, had passed from Leros on 03.10.2015 where identified based on EU rules, as decided at the Summit on the refugee issue.
We do not know if the passport was checked by other countries which are likely to be passed by the holder.
We will continue the painstaking and persistent effort under difficult circumstances to ensure the security of our country and Europe, insisting on complete identification of passing through the refugee stream. "
A tangential point, and one again pointing to motive, is that also just two months ago, the Greek defense minister threatened that Greece would open borders to jihadis and other mideast terrorists, if there was no deal.
On 9/3/15, Greek defence minister @PanosKammenos threatened that Greece would open borders to jihadis if no € deal pic.twitter.com/otBYrlxL8H
— The Konstantinos (@cocodinos) November 14, 2015
And just to cement the "refugee link", French newspaper Liberation also reported that an Egyptian passport was also found on one of the attackers the Stade de France.
Now, we admit to not being experts on the nuances, or even basics, of "suicide bombing for terrorists 101", but is bringing your own passport to an event that will be your last, really that crucial, especially when the passport is such a critical smoking gun?
Also, if a suicide bomber blows up while carrying the passport, does the passport survive intact every single time or just on specific occasions?
Whatever the reason, the trifecta has emerged: just as expected, the link between Syrian refugees, ISIS, and Terrorism has now been set in stone. And Marine Le Pen could not be any happier...
What happens next?
One possible chain of events involves France suddenly finding full-blown NATO support for a renewed attack on Syria and, of course, Assad.
France is in a military driving seat now if it wanted to invoke NATO's article 5 it could - and the 'State' of IS could be the target
— Phillip Blond (@Phillip_Blond) November 14, 2015
And with the only French aircraft carrier already en route to Syria, and meant to support to mission against Assad ISIS, France is oddly prepared for an all out attack to take out the Syrian president. Most importantly, it now has the outraged, incensed public's blessing to do just that.
The second path of future events goes back to what we said on September 11 of this year when we predicted the French terrorist attacks:
... the second key role of ISIS is also starting to emerge: the terrorist bogeyman that ravages Europe and scares the living daylight out of people who beg the government to implement an even more strict government apparatus in order to protect them from refugees ISIS terrorists.
...
Certainly expect a version of Europe'a Patriot Act to emerge over the next year, when the old continent has its own "September 11" moment, one which will provide the unelected Brussels bureaucrats with even more authoritarian power.
So far things are panning out precisely as we expected they would; we expect this chain of events to continue.
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riskavese,
Then please explain how the concrete turned to dust, and give us the force equations to enable that action.
Also, the equations that can melt steel with jet fuel. No rammed or pressurized air is allowed in your equations. When I use a gas flame to heat my skillet, I often worry about the steel melting. LOL
Also, don't forget to calculate heat loss to thermal mass, and re-radiation into space.
Also, I would like to see the equations where a building falls into its own resistance. Chaos theory and physics state that some of the vertical building would stand, and hence be a central resistance.
All buildings topple, even those that carry 30% load on their "outside" skeleton. Any equation must represent that reality.
"I'm an engineer"
Where did you get your degree? From a cereal box?
Be that as it may, just HOW does white-hot molten steel pour out of a corner of one of the towers that contained no explainable heat source? 1500-degree fire vs 2700-degree white-hot molten steel -- yousa gotsa some 'splainin' to do.
"Steel begins to lose its strength as soon as it's heated."
No it doesn't you idiot. It takes steel temperatures (not ambient) of 250+ degrees C before it starts to weaken. And at 400 degrees C it still retains 90% of its strength. Even steel temperatures that reach 800+ degrees C (much hotter than would be expected from the short-lived, diffuse, oxygen-starved fires observed in the WTC buildings) -- when structural steel loses 90% of its strength -- don't result in building collapse (much less symmetrical collapse), as has been demonstrated in research experiments as well as actual steel-framed building fires that burned for many hours.
Based on the steel samples tested by NIST, there's no evidence that the fires were hot enough for the steel to reach 600 degrees C (when steel loses 50% of its strength). They only found 3 samples that suggested that the fires burned hot enough and long enough for the steel to reach over 250 degrees C.
The fact that molten steel was observed by many witnesses does raise disturbing questions, however, as jet fuel doesn't burn even remotely hot enough to melt steel.
And of course there is the amazing indestructable Pentagon lawn.
Not to mention the one in Pennsylvania which totally vaporized upon impact, leaving nothing but a smoking hole in the ground.
And the Malaysian one, which disappeared without a trace, not even a seat cushion having washed up on shore almost 2 years later. Leading theorists believe a black hole swallowed it.
And the other Malaysian one, which was commissioned 7/17/97 (exactly one year to the day after TWA 800 went down) and crashed exactly 17 years later on 7/17/14, at 17:17 PM local time. Which was entirely a coincidence.
not entirely true....some wreckage and human remains were found at the Flight 93 crash site in Pennsylvania. See-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93#Crash
Shouldn;t you be toking your doobies and thinking up new ways to weasil out of your child support?
And just HOW did NORAD earn their keep on that day??
Some time ago I realized I had not seen anyone intelligent arguing the government's case on 9/11. You have not changed that.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/09/166/
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/3663/
Just wondering how the Hegelian dialectic is working here. Millions of mostly Muslim refugees coming into white nations and will no doubt be causing the loss of cultures there. Then there is a huge backlash against the refugee situation due to horrendous terror event in Paris.
So what is it? How do the NWO/TPTB gain form the Paris attacks?
What is the effect of the attack in the long run and whom does it serve best?
Take the war to Syria, the euros get sick of that war and finally say to get Assad out. Saudis and others then get their pipeline to EU. The rich in the middle east then get richer, and pay out the performance bonus to the peons like Obama that are doing their bidding, all while limiting the Russkie's influence and oil money. Simple, ain't it?
The other thing going on here is the US MIC gets more money for more bombs being dropped, and the moronic neocons and neolibs just love to blow up and destabilize other countries. Rather that bring the US up, they've decided to put most everybody else in the gutter, save for Tel Aviv and Riyadh.
The refugees increase the power of the EU and all the governments within. Another group to cause division, fear and thus increase the need for the gov's power and arbitrartion.
Never let a good crisis go to waste. The more sensitive assholes your society has, the more need to control everyone's speech.
Push people to the right? Soros was after all a nazi. I have the same questions too. The folsk at Dollar, Inc. have to go to the theater, shop, and eat out too. They now the muslims hate usuary, etc. So what is their game?
To me, the biggest question marks around this attack center on the football match ('football' as in 'soccer' for my americans) between France and Germany that French President Francois Hollande was attending.
-The first bomb blasts can be heard in the stadium between the 19' and 20' mark.
-The FIRST blast occurs at an entrance to the stadium.
-A SECOND blast occurs at another entrance to the stadium within a few minutes of the first.
-A THIRD blast happens at a nearby McDonalds a few minutes later.
-A short time later, Francois Holland is evacuated from the stadium.
-They then proceed to FINISH THE FOOTBALL MATCH! INCLUDING HALF-TIME AND EXTRA TIME! We are talking 25 minutes to finish the first half, 10-15 minutes for half-time, another 45 minutes for the second half, and 3 minutes of extra time, for a total of ~85 minutes, beyond the time of the *first* blast at the stadium entrances.
That is crazy.
France WON the match 2-0 in REGULATION TIME!
Q: What kind of morons don't stop a football match at halftime (at least) when there are multiple bomb blasts at stadium entrances?
A: The provacateuring kind.
They stop regular league matches for fan violence all the time, but they won't stop an International Football Match attended by the French President in the case of multiple bomb-blasts at the stadium??
Are you fucking kidding me?
This sequence of events is glaringly weird and demands further investigation.
Terrorist passports are made of special materials that could even be placed inside a star that goes supernova and emerge from the explosion intact. At the same time, if you had one in your hand, the advanced spaceage technology can detect that it is not from the actual holder of the passport and will therefore become like an ordinary passport. This is one of the miracles of modern material science, but authorities are reluctant to publish this due to the underlying black budget funding of this. This material was back engineered after the Roswell incident in 1947 with the help of the aliens that were captured. But what do you think area 51 is about?
My ex-neighbor wholeheartedly believes in aliens. He saw some once, you see. His dad called him out on the front lawn of their house on the outskirts of Atlanta one night, and pointed up at a large black cigar shaped object floating above their house. He knows it was aliens, because there was a dimly lit window where silhouetted figures were standing, apparently looking out at them. The alien spacecraft was completely silent and after a few moments of hovering, suddenly shot upward into the sky and disappeared.
You see, aliens have the technology to fly across the universe to observe our planet, but they haven't invented video cameras yet. That's why they need glass windows to look down at us fascinating humans, and to see where they're going as they warp through the galaxy.
I expressed the opinion that it was probably a top secret military airship conducting some kind of test flight. He was skeptical. No, definitely aliens.
So when will this tragic event spawn the next move of the US and it's allies to throw more firepower at Assad and Russia......I mean ISIS?
Hey Huas-Targaryen,
Is this news article legit?
http://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/kolumne/plante-mueller-das-eindringen-in-...
It probably is because I had a friend from Austria telling me that something like that is already done in Germany for unoccupied properties. Will certainly piss of many people in Germany. One step close to the break up of the EU.
Something else you might want to read. Russia is beginning to blame Soros directly for the refugee crisis in Europe. Full article here:
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151113/1030056095/soros-refugee-crisis...
The article is written by someone I have never heard of, but Sputnik is the Kremlin itself. Interesting they publish such an article now, certainly means something.
It's just beginning here:
http://thehayride.com/2015/11/breaking-syrian-refugees-are-arriving-in-n...
The first boat of them has arrived. 10,000 of them. The pictures that I've seen are conspicously void of females.
Did they bring any nukes with them? Any suspiciously heavy suitcases?
Haus warned about this back in August...
Maybe it is because google translate sucks, but what I get from that article is worse than what Haus warned about. It says nothing about unoccupied houses, and that police would just be able to barge in to look for sleeping space. That's part of why I want his take on it, because he understands German.
They did something close to this in Watertown, Mass. a few years ago when they were searching for the Boston Marathon Bombers.
More importantly, Haus studied law in Germany. My German is functional (most days) and the article is specific to local government in Berlin, but the barging in allegations are as bad as they sound, but they don't adress the legal issues related to subsequent placement and compensation when "space is found", only that the Pigs (and wanna be pigs) would now have the local statutory authority (in contravention of Constitution) to enter homes on the pretext of looking for space.
Whether pulling the proposal was good or bad is debatable... nothing would get the German plebes riled up and searching for lamposts like police searching white German homes and landowners for space to house the untermenschen.
First of all, it is a draft for a law that was since rescinded.
It says the police can enter a house aka private property without a court order and take a look if there's some space for our precious "refugees" - without the consent of the owner, even. In case they are in danger becoming "homeless". And: not even the police will have that power, but also the municipalities.
Sieg Heil!
I mean who could see this coming?/sarc
If you were reading a novel and the plot was THIS convincing, I doubt you'd get to the second chapter!
I had no idea that passports were so robust
Can someone explain the logic behind blaming Assad for the actions of ISIS? Christ, Assad is fighting ISIS as is Russia. If anything, France should team up with Assad and help him get rid of these fucks.
Clearly Chubbar, that would be the logical thing to do.
Except it was Sarkozy who was in the lead to take our Ghaddafi, along with his UK sidekike CaMORON, backed up by the house boy and his screaming harpies, claiming RTP (responsibility to protect), in breach of the long established principles of the Treaty of Westphalia.
"(The principles developed at Westphalia, especially those relating to respecting the boundaries of sovereign states and non-interference in their domestic affairs, became central to the world order that developed over the following centuries and remains in effect to this day (as of 2015)" -
quotation taken from wikipedia, tho' last sentence clearly not true with respect to 2015
Remember how the twin towers were incinerated, hot enough to melt structural steel, yet somehow passports falling from a plane crashing into a building survived intact
Come on. In an explosions things are thrown clear.
Nano-thermite can turn steel into butter but it can't singe a passport? Mmmkay
This is a propaganda home-run, everyone was joking that the authorities would magically find a passport in tact. Israeli Secret Intelligence Services (ISIS) was indeed responsible.
Bulletproof vests are made from recycled terrorist passports nowadays. Kevlar is so old skool.
Nano-thermite can turn steel into butter but it can't singe a passport? Mmmkay
Explosion comes before fire....physics for dummies 101
No bit of human body was larger than a chicken wing, I believe. Explosions + grinding of falling steal girders would treat a passport pretty much the same, it seems to me.
There must have been many passports and such documents in desks, being carried by people. Were they found in the street also?
But the speed of an ejected passport would have been much less than the speed of the expanding heat from the explosion.
deleted.
Come on. In an explosions things are thrown clear.
...which explains why the passports in this Paris event were found right next to the suicide bombers, JLee2027
Gold!
Jew shill fcka.
Chosenth this malaka!!!
No one in the mainstream press is talking about this:
THOUSANDS of refugees are being flown into New Orleans right now, soon to be dispersed through the nation
http://www.fox8live.com/story/30428985/syrian-refugees-beginning-to-arri...
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/11/13/ironic-timing-today-first...
Expect the largest hurricane ever to spin up next week and come ashore in N.O.
You can't make this shit up!
Keep your eye out for passports.
Nawlins lost a lot of vibrancy during Katrina, it's getting too white!
You can even collapse a skyscraper on a passport, without success.
So when the nukes begin falling, i won´t go under the kitchen table.
No, i hold my passport over my proud head.
Thanks for the tip!
Will expired ones work, do you think?
No, an expired passport has lost it smagical ability bestowed upon it by government. Im sorry....its just science bro.
Thanks for the info.
Had a feeling that might be the case.
hundreds of thousands of passport blanks and the printing machines that are used to complete the passport information have been stolen from Syria and Iraq. These passports are not forgeries. They are real. There is no way to determine a 'fake' syrian passport from a 'real' syrian passport.
in the middle east there are no credit unions or fingerprint databases...not unless they make them using cuneiform.
as a 'refugee' with asylum OF COURSE THE ASSHOLE HAD TO TRAVEL WITH HIS DOCUMENTS LEST A RANDOM POLICE STOP PREVENT HIM FROM MEETING HIS 72 VIRGINS. I swear, I hate the NWO more than most of you but the facts of international travel are the facts.
Mongolians make the best Syrian passports. They are aged in special oak barrels.
Do you know why these passports are made* from the Finest Unobtainium, using Dark Energy?
* Not 'Made in China'
Because...
Welfare Tycoon:
I have often wondered if Mohamed could do math. With birth and death ratios around 50/50 for men and woman, how does the big angry guy in the sky get the 72 virgins for all the "martyrs" ? Are some/all of the virgins actually men, does the big angry guy sew up some of the used in/out sleeves ? Rubber dolls, or does he just conjure up 71 more right hands?
Just wondering...
The more killing I see, the more convinced I am that we are not very far removed from swinging from the vines.
Kayman: Goats are plentiful.
Not a lot of vines in arab infected regions, and who is this "we" you are including us in?
Just running the numbers can often be very helpful in deciding truth from fiction.
But then again, an omnipotent and omniscient invisible guy in the sky can pretty much pull anything off, I suppose.
Hopefully that 'swinging from trees' thing will make a comeback, at least for those who deserve it!
The agenda has now entered warp factor......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/jihadis-posing-as-m...
The goat fuckers seem brighter than you. If you're stopped at a random checkpoint w/o valid ID then you'd be rounded up before you manage to reach your target. Hate to rain on everyone's parade but they needed to carry passports or any other sort of ID to get to where they wanted uneventfully.
these dudes were on the watch list..................seems to me you should be pissed off at the system that failed to stop them rather then crack jokes..........................but who am it to point that out
This comment is a masterpiece of the inane.
Terrorists are issued indestrucable passports by the CIA so that said passport will surive any kind of explosion or inferno.The passport will survie in mint, unused condition.
Remember the miraculous Arab passport that survived WTC?
You can't make this shit up.
if 8 crazy men causes the bombing of millions. they win
I get that a large number here WANT to believe that this is some false flag attack. So the passport seems like the typical conspiracy theorist anomaly to get things started.
I will suggest the opposite. Carrying your passport in a foreign country is no different than your wallet or anything else. I serioulsy doubt they all left home in full attack garb. Thiey probably took cars and public transportaion with all their gear to some point close to the target areas. They would need ID in case they got stopped or used public transit along with their money.
They may have also combed their hair and put on cologne for all I know. It was their last day. They were going to take credit, as well so they would not mind being identified. Maybe they wore ckean underwear and a tux, too.
It just remains to be seen if the passport was stolen and in fact belonged to an attacker, but this in no way makes any kind of evidence for a fakse flag.
"It just remains to be seen if the passport was stolen and in fact belonged to an attacker, but this in no way makes any kind of evidence for a fakse flag."
If there were a brick wall anywhere near me, I'd be bashing my head into it right now.
D'OH
PoTD!
We all know that Jihad John's primary concern just prior to departing for the afterlife in a flurry of immoral and criminal activity, would naturally be....having proper identification.
A little surprising a book wasn't found titled "How I did it with help from Vlad".
Russia will get blamed for this.
Chunga, this and other incidents will be investigated by NCIS and they will find pieces of curcuit board with "Made in China" stamped on them...
was owebomba reading my pet goat perchance?
Was the French president visiting a school? Did he run to his presidential airplane or bus?
How convenient!
Well... It's still more believable than the "passport" that crashed through a metal building that incinerated and melted everything and conveniently found it's way intact on top of a pile of rubble 14 years ago at Ground Zero!
They use that "new" plastic ... on them there passports ... that shit will stop anything bubba.
WTF don't they build tanks out of that material, and bullet proof wests!!?
This whole thing makes more understanding why so many two-passport-guys are warmongerers.
Think they are invincible with this double protection, be able to walk on water and blood.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
George W. Bush
And mb when I heard that motherfucker struggle with that one due to brain damage from too much drug use I said to myself... Jesus Fucking Christ this is the CIC of the most powerful military on the planet!...
You must of said like I did all those years ago it can't get any worse... Right?...
But then, it did! (is doing?)
Really, I think you misunderestimated that quote!
Damn, the CIA REALLY wants to motivate the French military over there in Syria. Is the French military worth a damn? I guess the CIA thinks so. . .
"Is the French military worth a damn?"
Not to my (history)-knowledge.
The USA wants to get a look at how the Russian army and its technology behaves in a real war scenario, they used the Ukrainians as their pawns but Russia didn't react how they expected so now they'll send in the French to try. Russia and Iran have had a lot of opportunity to study the USA's weapons and Armies under real war conditions so the USA is at a big disadvantage in this regard for the eventual big war that seems inevitable now, in my opinion.
I suspect that some dead French soldiers will be used to try and boost morale on the home front for more and bigger war.
(edited).
Hadn't thought of the testing aspect.
One thing's for sure, though. The members of the French military will be used as pieces in the global games of the psychopaths.
The French military fought more, longer, bigger and fiercer wars than you yellow yankee pussies could even imagine, you ignorant insult to pricks.
"The French military fought more, longer, bigger and fiercer wars than you yellow yankee pussies could even imagine, you ignorant insult to pricks."
You are good with words. All true.
But somehow they always were on the retreat.
And don´t tell me they won WW2. Not before the Sowiet Union finished off Adolf.
That is true! but it is not easy to fight a conventional war when your materiel is giving problems, the tanks have mainly reverse gears, the generals sit in Algiers and the Maginot line is placed a bit awkwardly.
So what takes the French a month, would have taken most others a week or less.
After the vikings taught the French to fight, it has been going steadily downhill since.
(all in good humour and no insult intended!)
Not since Sedan, er, I mean Verdun. :)
The role of the French is merely to open whatever can of worms we're looking to get into. Vietnam, Libya, what have you.
C o W
http://s25.postimg.org/x34p1m1n3/Can_of_Worms.jpg
Read the label.
I always take my passport on suicide terror attacks. Don't wanna leave no mysteries.
Enough said. The sensationalist reporting about the passport is so transparent i burst out laughing. But probably over 80% of people believe it without quetion.
Probably still over 98%, get to anywhere near 80% and the jig is up.
It doesn't matter what they believe. The point is there is now a pretext. Next up Greece is stockpiling weapons of mass destruction.
And Portugal. And Canada.
Agree, when one goes on a certain death suicide mission the last thing you want is for the press to misspell your name.
The virgin supplyers also have to know the right name and adress.
If you get stopped by LE on your way to the attack you better have ID if you want to continue. If you're from the ME and in France your passport is your ID.
Exactly!
Everyone wants to believe an easily fabricated passport. Just like MOST people believed the USA information on IRAQ'S imminent threat/WMD.
WHY HAVE YOUR PASSPORT IF YOU ARE ON A SUICIDE MISSION
Yes.
This whole story stinks. So a prisine intact passport was found next to a man who was blown to smithereens? It all stinks.
Same fraud as 911.
Here's the new fraud.
Same as the old fraud.
most get fooled again!
I heard they found a note saying "yep - we did it ... it was us ... ISIS ... fuck you."
You have to carry your passport in case you get stopped by the police. They were just playing along, not taking any chances. Probably put on the bomb vest only as they entered the fray, had been carrying it in a backpack up to that minute, easy to ditch if the police stop you.
This is just how it's done, folk. Think whatever you want to, I guess if it gives you comfort. Or if thinking it is a Grand Templar Conspiracy means you don't have to change anything about your lifestyle choices, meaning the fuel you consume, being why we are over their toppling Asad and propping up the House of Saud. Yeah, this blood is on all our hands while we allow governments to fight these Corporatist wars for our benefit.
Nope. Nice try you tin foil hat conspiracy nut.
Cougar, why would you carry your real ID, especially if you are already a person of interest? It appears that most of the attackers were already on a watch list, under enhanced scrutiny.
Basic spycraft dictates that you carry a false ID with you, in event that you do get stopped by the police. Carrying ID will also not protect you if you are carrying an AK 47, unless you wearing a long coat carrying your weapon 'African' style. The rattle and bulges of 4-5 loaded magazines may also give you away.
How do we also know that the Passports weren't planted on the dead terrorists after the fact? We have seen this story line before, and look where it led, to the destruction of countries and murder of millions. This is not conspiracy, just fact.
You've lost the thread. People are trying to claim the bombers and killers are not ISIS but Mosad, all the "flase flag" noise. All I'm saying is this is probably ISIS because they have plenty of both opportunity and motivation.
The identity on the passport is less important, but see my comment below. ISIS could easily (probably is) playing both ends against he middle, classic Machiaveli.
"ISIS could easily (probably is) playing both ends against he middle, classic Machiaveli."
So who controls ISIS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rYv5pN143U
Putin and the FSB control ISIS !!!!!
Please... The FSB created ISIS to bloody Western efforts all over the ME. It was a "concept" crafted from the Chechnya conflict.
Notice the USAF gets Jihadi John? And why is that? BECAUSE PUTIN DOESN'T BOMB ISIS! Why would he bomb his own?
"Putin and the FSB control ISIS !!!!!"
Not at all. Below is a simple infographics to make it easier for you to understand what's going on:
"Notice the USAF gets Jihadi John? And why is that?"
Because that's what they reported on Fox News and therefore, in your laughable excuse for a mind, it must be true...?
What do I win?
The answer to that doesn't alter the thrust of my argument.
Then why did IS claim they attacked the French because they insulted a religious figure, when IS has said it will not attack Israel who does it even more than the french?
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/10/21/heres-why-israel-loses-...
Note the picture....
isis is mossad/cia/zionazi
http://news.yahoo.com/israel-pm-defied-france-join-paris-march-reports-1...
Why a Syrian passport when ISIS would appear to be multi-ethnic?
Doesn't come close to passing 'the smell test'
you could throw your passport on the ground before you detonated yourself. just playing devils advocate here. as to the 9-11 passport logic does call bullshit on that one
"This is probably ISIS" means what this week? Were they ever independent actors, or always CIA and SA? Do I not recall CIA, Mossad and SA cooperating in various things over the years? I don't think we have to choose, just considering motives.
LL: ISIS have been making a special effort to seize Iraqi and Syrian passport blanks AND THE PRINTING COMPUTERS AND MACHINES. ISIS has a neverending supply of Blank Syrian Passports, Iraqi Passprts, Iraqi Military IDs and pretty much everything you need to make a complete set of REAL (but not authentic) ID papers for their Jihadis. I have been telling people for a very long time that this 'refugee' crisis is actually cover for INFIILTRATION.
None of these guys were on any lists at all because IN THE MIDDLE EAST THESE LISTS DON'T EXIST. The best list was the DOD database which hasn't been updated in at least 3 years. PSC companies use the DOD database to scan their new security guards, but even then you have to take pains to find guys WHO HAVE LIVED IN THE SAME TRIBE AND HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE TRIBE VOUCH FOR THEM.
I am really getting pissed off with the jack offs here who haven't been to the Middle East or at least on their own dealing with this shit day after day.
FOLKS, THIS IS AN INFILTRATION! Hence, these assholes can travel anywhere with their passport under a fake name once they have their asylum or refugee status granted. Also, you know that every other guy here has the same name right? Mohammed or Ali. Take your pick. Then they will have 3-4 different family names Al (from) Family name or dad name. Fuck, it gets so confusing you end up calling them by different nick names.
"I am really getting pissed off with the jack offs here who haven't been to the Middle East or at least on their own dealing with this shit day after day. "
I've been to the middle east, but I don't remember seeing you there. Let me guess: you were the guy washing out the port-a-shitters in Bagram?
Heard in watchlist headquarters--"Hey we were right. That guy was a terrorist!"
You have to carry your passport in case you get stopped by the police.
You have to carry a passport in case you get stopped by the police.
Disclaimer Norme: Une différence subtile mais distinctes...
Yeah, that's true. One thought I had is that ISIS don't want the refugees coming to the EU at all, and the best way to stop that would be to have a terrorist act 100% tied to refugees.
This is subtle everyone, follow along:
ISIS is building a Caliphate. People over there don't want it. Big surpize and something of an embarrassment for ISIS, you can just imagine. If middle-class ME'ers are allowed to vote with their feet (as now) and opt instead for the West (bad visuals there) ISIS will have a Caliphate with no subjects, or at least only with poor uneducated subjects who couldn't book passage. Not a pretty picture. Literally, not good for YouTube.. So if they can get Europe to close their doors then ISIS gets "their" people (fear slaves) back into the fold without having to actually make the Caliphate a nice thing for them.
I'm reasonably certain now this is the game in play for ISIS.
Yes, a refugee passport could be completely a plant. But have nothing at all to do with the CIA or Mosad, and everything to do with stemming the flow of people out of the forming ISIS Caliphate. Exactly like putting up the Berlin Wall to keep people in East Berlin from entering the West side, and for exactly the same reasons.
Nice theory but I don't buy it. Smells a bit too much like disinformation.
It's just informatiion, I don't care what anyone actually thinks. I am long on thinking clearly and short on shrill paranoic ranting no matter how satisfying the latter might be.
It's probably just a cat thing.
OF COURSE IT DOES COMRADE! Of course it does...
BBBWWWWAAAAHHHAAAAA !!!!!
Ok. no more coffee for me.
What if ISIS threw a caliphate, and nobody came?
Exactly.
Makes sense
"I'm reasonably certain now this is the game in play for ISIS."
I'm reasonably certain you're a moron who wouldn't recognize the truth if it walked up to you, unzipped its pants, and slapped you around with its 12" cock until your eyeballs bled.
Thanks Cougar, a little common sense sanity is nice to read on the ZH for a change.
It's kind of fun knocking the pillars out from under the raging paranoia that burns here. I don't get involved very often, and when I do it's mostly so I can enjoy existing entirely alone on the reality side of the ZH universe.
You are not alone. I personally enjoy hammering the three stooges contingent know as the Pootrolls and their dimwitted minions...
The only thing worse than bush league Pootroll, is their dimwitted minion that believe their "buddy" is a real Irishman sitting in Ireland when in fact, it's Igor gonaafckedalot in Moscow...
which one of you is moe? curly? larry?
Shemp
Fuck you. You know the first person to call that Douchebag Hollande was Putin. Putin knows these savages better than all of us combined. He had to level Grozny to exterminate this filth.
Only Putin can save Europe now - funny, this will be the second time in a hundred years the Russians have saved Europe without so much as a 'thank you'.
cougar w is a hasbara troll
And paddyirishman isn't a paddy or an irishman. How about Vlad Dipschitsky? Sound more like it?
... and you, alpha-hammer, are a scum bag.
Waa waa... Nice picture BTW. Some sort of Russian mind control experiment?
Can we please get back on subject and get away from time wasting personal bullshit?
No wonder there are wars.
THINK ffs, don't react.
"Can we please get back on subject and get away from time wasting personal bullshit?"
With all these paid trolls and useful idiots wandering about? Survey says: not likely.
You made me laugh, hope that was your intention.
yea, because the battle gear would never raise anyone's suspicion. you know, the problem with hasbara is they were able to get away with all sorts of nonsense for so many years that they never realized how much of their arguement doesn't amke any sense to someone with an iq over 80.
A rational voice. It does not go over well, here, at least if you are going against the conspiracy grain.
Wait, you're saying they're gonna get NATO approval to take out Assad? I didn't hear Russia mentioned once. Do you really think they'll bomb the Russian troops guarding Him? I thought I was reading a CNN article since they are apparently forbidden to speak the word "Russia." (maybe I missed something here)
doubtful if NATO will attack Russian troops without having
a "plausible deniability" claim it was by "mistake".
However, NATO may now have enough support to invade and partition Syrian territory,
leaving Assad and Russia with just a "rump" Syria still subject to
terrorist attacks organized by Turkey & others.
That has been the basic plan all along.
article from 2007
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection
and of course, pipelines and oil
http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-stakes-claim-to-golan-after-oil-find...