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Paul Craig Roberts: "The Matrix" Extends Its Reach

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Submitted by Paul Craig Roberts,

The remnant of the American left has again fallen in with the official terror story of the Paris attacks, because the official story serves the left-wing’s denunciatory needs. I see that the Russians as well are on board with the official story as it serves their posture that we must all unite against terrorism. Amazing. Washington can rely on the world’s total blindness.

Within one hour of the Paris attacks and without any evidence, the story was set in stone that the perpetrator was ISIL. This is the way propaganda works.

When the West does it, it always succeeds, because the world is accustomed to following the lead of the West. I was amazed to see, for example, Russian news services helping to spread the official story of the Paris attacks despite Russia herself having suffered so often from planted false stories.

Has the Russian media forgotten MH-17? The minute the story was reported that the Malaysian airliner was hit by a Russian missile over eastern Ukraine in the hands of separatists, the blame was ascribed to Russia. And that is where the blame remains despite the absence of evidence.

 

Has the Russian media also forgotten the “Russian invasion of Ukraine”? This preposterous story is accepted everywhere in the West as gospel.

 

Has the Russian media forgot about the book by the German newspaper editor who wrote that every European journalist of consequence was an asset of the CIA?

One would have thought that experience would have taught Russian media sources to be careful about explanations that originate in the West.

So now we have what is likely to be another false story set in stone. Just as a few Saudis with box cutters outwitted the entire US national security state, ISIL managed to acquire unacquirable weapons and outwit French intelligence while organizing a series of attacks in Paris.

Why did ISIL do this? Blowback for France’s small role in Washington’s Middle East violence? Why not the US instead?

Or was ISIL’s purpose to have the flow of refugees into Europe blocked by closed borders? Does ISIL really want to keep all of its opponents in Syria and Iraq when instead it can drive them out to Europe? Why have to kill or control millions of people by preventing their flight?

Don’t expect any explanations or questions from the media about the story that is set in stone.

The threat to the European political establishment is not ISIL. The threats are the rising anti-EU, anti-immigrant political parties: Pegida in Germany, the UK Independence Party, and the National Front in France. The latest poll shows the National Front’s Marine Le Pen leading as the likely French president.

Something had to be done about the hordes of refugees from Washington’s wars, or the establishment political parties faced defeat at the hands of political parties that are also unfriendly to Europe’s subservience to Washington.

EU rules about refugees and immigrants and Germany’s acceptance of one million of the refugees, together with heavy criticism of those governments in Eastern Europe that wanted to put up fences to keep out the refugees, made closing borders impossible.

With the Paris terror attacks, what was impossible became possible, and the President of France immediately announced the closing of France’s borders. The border closings will spread. The main issue of the rising dissident political parties will be defused. The EU will be safe, and so will Washington’s sovereignty over Europe.

Whether or not the Paris attacks were a false flag operation for the purpose of obtaining these results, these results are the consequences of the attacks. These results serve the interests of the European political establishment and Washington.

Is ISIL so unsophisticated not to have realized that? If ISIL is that unsophisticated, how did ISIL so easily deceive French intelligence? Indeed, can French intelligence be intelligent?

Can Western peoples be so unintelligent to fall for a story set in stone prior to any evidence? In the West, facts are created by self-serving statements from governments. Investigation is not part of the process. When 90 percent of the US media is owned by six mega-corporations, it cannot be any different.

As The Matrix grows in the absurdity of its claims, it nevertheless manages to become even more invulnerable.

 

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Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:30 | 6798241 LetThemEatRand
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More great stuff from PCR today:

"Discussing the situation today with a friend brought to mind another benefit to the establishment of the Paris attack. Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, who were on the verge of taking the presidential nominations away from the establishment, have had their momentum disrupted by the Paris attack. By the time the Paris attack and all that will come in its wake run their course—new military measures against ISIL, Western intervention without Syrian government approval, PATRIOT Acts for European countries, and possibly a new and more draconian PATRIOT Act for the US, increased association of dissent with ISIL terrorism—Trump and Sanders will no longer command attention."   http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/15/paris-changes-everything-say-...

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:46 | 6798289 seek
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Not sure this is exactly going to disrupt a guy who's campaign is to close the borders down.

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:48 | 6798295 coinhead
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The corporate media was out blaming encryption technology hours after teh Paris attack.

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:54 | 6798305 BLOTTO
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We are just tickling the tentacles...

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the beast is further up the creek.

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The fairy tales may be true. Or are we just the most pathetic race of beings in the Universe?

Come on mannnn.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:51 | 6798543 Squid-puppets a...
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He makes a salient point, though: what is the benefit to ISIS of attacking paris in such fashion? The French role in Syria is minimal compared to other powers.

And so France has started bombing Raqqa. Im sure as is standard operational procedure in these things, civilian infrastructure like water electricity etc - the things that make the town livable in - are the first to be targeted and destroyed.  So any civilians there are now set to become.... wait for it.... refugees.   

Its a brand of absurdity that makes you weep, not laugh

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 02:23 | 6798595 Par Contre
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ISIS wants to suck us in, they want more boots on the ground in Iraq and Syria. That will give them more opportunities to kill and take hostage Americans, and more importantly attract more recruits as they rail against the "Infidel Crusaders."

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 08:00 | 6798915 Arnold
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The full fallout of Charlie Hebdo has not cycled through the moslem world yet.

Seems to me that the Danish cartoons are not yet forgiven.

Certainly gasoline for the fire

 

Yup.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 08:50 | 6799051 metastar
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I was going to draw a smiley of the profit but reconsidered.

:0

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 06:06 | 6798799 not dead yet
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Obama has been completely embarrased by the Russians as his non bombing if ISIS and dropping them weapons has finally hit mainstream media. There is a deserted village somewhere is Syria that is pockmarked with bomb craters. Speculation is many of those bombs the US supposedly drops on ISIS just get dropped there so that it's noticed the planes return sans bomb thus ISIS must have been the recipient. Anyway the Nobel Bomb Innocent People to Pieces award winner needs to make himself look relevant so why not have a terror attack and shake up the planet but not on US soil as that will reflect badly on him. Since he's in bed with ISIS it's only a satellite phone call away to have his chums set up the dirty deed. Now he takes center stage mouthing bullshit desperately trying to convince the sheep around the world he's going to power up the Millenium Falcon and warp speed to the rescue possibly with boots on the ground in Syria as Iraq has made it plain they do not want US troops in Iraq. What the situation really needs is for Scotty to beam the Obominater into the middle of the sun. Just today the idiot announced Assad has to go and he's revving up a plan that doesn't include input from the Syrians. Obama needs to be reminded that he is not god and as the head of the UN recently stated it's up to the Syrians themselves not outside powers to determine who leads their country.

After the attack in Paris I'm willing to bet all the security agencies in Europe all voiced the same thing when they met behind closed doors. "If we weren't such pussies and let ourselves be Obama's bitches the Paris attack and the war in Syria would never have happened and all those refugees would be in their homes in their own countries kicking back watching a soccer game." Yet when the new day dawns they're back on their knees begging Obama to whip it out so they can suck away. I really get a laugh when spinmeisters claim the US is ISIS is biggest threat when they are too stupid or willfully ignorant to see Obama is ISIS best friend.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 12:34 | 6800029 Bring the Gold
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European countries are the ones who really want that west of the Euphrates pipeline along with Qatar and Saudi Arabia. The US is just doing the EU, Saudi, Qatar and Israel's dirty work as usual. How do we benefit? We don't but those other countries sure do!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 09:36 | 6799174 csmith
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ISIS hits soft targets in Paris because they CAN. Other targets (U.S., Britain, other high-visibility tourist spots in Paris, etc. are too difficult - so far.)

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 09:43 | 6799205 SoDamnMad
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France is a hot bed of Islamic hate starting with former French colony families being marginalized for decades.  Marsellies is full of weapons, probably more AKs there than along our Mexican border.  A nice huge city with lots of places (jew) to attack.  I hear the Jewish community was warned on Friday. Guess they don't want to share that intelligence with French security.  Bebi was quoted as saying something about being at war (so France should join in with their fight) Maybe this is a payback for being on board the Iran nuclear deal.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 12:45 | 6800115 Socratic Dog
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Jesus.  If the jewish community was warned, the jews did it.  That seems unarguable.  Yet you prattle on about islamic hate?  Grow a logical brain.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 09:43 | 6799206 SoDamnMad
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France is a hot bed of Islamic hate starting with former French colony families being marginalized for decades.  Marsellies is full of weapons, probably more AKs there than along our Mexican border.  A nice huge city with lots of places (jew) to attack.  I hear the Jewish community was warned on Friday. Guess they don't want to share that intelligence with French security.  Bebi was quoted as saying something about being at war (so France should join in with their fight) Maybe this is a payback for being on board the Iran nuclear deal.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:51 | 6800785 NuTroll
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Why Paris?

Because they could get there.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 02:47 | 6798613 r0mulus
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I'm pretty sure this was published or written before ISIS had claimed official responsibility for the attacks.

I believe PCR's point is that the Western Press had blamed ISIS within a few hours of the attack, before ISIS had taken official responsibility. They should not have been able to make that claim so quickly. It bears parallels to the MSM reporting on 9/11, Ghouta, and MH-17, amongst others.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:40 | 6798528 August
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"When you use more than 5% of your brain you don't want to be on Earth, believe me."

 - The Great Rip Torn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQmJl1CQx2o

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 04:38 | 6798728 JulianAD
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"Not that your take-out places aren't lovely..."

Gold.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:09 | 6798332 J S Bach
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While I admire Mr. Roberts for breaking from his sycophantic cousins by daring to contest the establishment's drivel on current events... I still have to call him out on his apparent cowardice in failing to NAME the termitic (my word) adversarial tribe at the core of these painful world transpirations.  He NEVER goes so far as to even HINT at their existence.  And exist they do.  But, regardless... with each passing day and each continuing lie (from false flags to usury)... the impending tide of truth will push ever onward bringing their demise deliciously closer.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:24 | 6798380 Bro of the Sorr...
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JSB,

 

love your posts typically, and i used to feel the same way about PCR, but have to disagree here. PCR had an article posted on ZH recently where he named the zionists as the problem. cant find it just now, but maybe you can. also here's an article he linked on his site:

 

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/31/zionist-dream-based-slaughter...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:43 | 6798418 J S Bach
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Thank you, BoS... if what you say is true, then I stand corrected.  I personally have never read an article by PCR where he overtly named the culprits outright.  If it exists, then I'll retract 10% of my comment.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:17 | 6798492 Bro of the Sorr...
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 04:46 | 6798734 jaxville
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Bro ....Thank you for that.  Not only did it clear up my concerns about PCR, I have to see MK in a better light.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 11:09 | 6799582 kill switch
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J S Bach,

 

 

I like your style...A man that stands corrected is a smart man, keep up the good work as I enjoy your offerings here.

 

KS

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:05 | 6798464 diogenes23
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He has been stretching and losing the plot more and more i am afraid. talking about cyber attackes 48 hours before the attacks too, now wouldn't one do such a thing during or right before the attacks, no reference, just what he heard, but can't tell you where. no good

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 03:03 | 6798631 r0mulus
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The "cyber attacks" seem like a bit of a reach to me too as there is not much else in the way of context, however, James Corbett of "The Corbett Report" has reported that there was an ongoing "multi-site attack exercise" in Paris:

Friday also happened to be the day of a “multi-site attack exercise” in Paris that included “police forces, firemen, EMTs, and others,” according to Patrick Pelloux, an emergency physician and former Charlie Hebdo columnist who was also mobilized in response to the Hebdo shootings in January.

He reports on other things happening that day throughout France as well, including other bomb threats in public places.

We don't really know enough yet to make sense of the cyber attacks claim by PCR. It might have been premature of him to include it so quickly, but it hasn't been proven incorrect or misleading just yet. As we get more information on the attack, it may turn out that the cyber attacks were part of the gov script for that day, just as with the now infamous Operation Able Danger.

We'll have to wait and see.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 10:08 | 6799301 justdues
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Bach , even Mr Roberts must have some sense of self preservation. Naming and shaming" those who must not be critisized" to paraphrase Voltaire , can have real and sometimes deadly consequences. The "termitic" tribe remains untouchable until it is not.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:03 | 6798334 LetThemEatRand
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"Not sure this is exactly going to disrupt a guy who's campaign is to close the borders down."

Simple -- the other candidates jump on it and say "close the borders down."  The election is still one year away.  There is plenty of time now for the establishment candidates to jump on the bandwagon and use the Paris attack as cover for their change in position.  

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:32 | 6798248 Lost in translation
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Cue the .gov shills and disinformation agents to clog up the comments section with "anyone who doesn't believe is bat-shit crazy," "PCR is senile," and best of all, "they can't show you bodies or blood because that isn't fit for public consumption."

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:37 | 6798405 Duc888
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....actually I find 80% of PCR's stuff about 2-3 weeks behind the times to the point of almost being plagiarism....but this article is spot on and he has taken it front and center.

 

Good for him.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:43 | 6798419 kiwidor
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yes, my usually cogent girlfriend tried feeding me that "it's policy now" line viz violence on telly.   they don't show the gore.  ummm...pull the other one.

an appropriate response would be to display the bodies in public.   line 'em up.  if all that's left of a suicide bomber (if there were any) is a bucket of guts and a few flaps of skin, just tip it out onto an adjacent trolley.

 

for the kontrolfreaks of terra there is no cost that is too high to produce shitstorms of lies .  and why would they? perhaps they know about karma?  perhaps it's some kind of 'emotional sink' designed to keep the markets high through weird super-symmetrical magick.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:53 | 6798429 LetThemEatRand
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Funny, I could go on liveleak or many other sites and see a beheading or westerner burning to death when TPTB wanted me to see that.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 12:52 | 6800157 Socratic Dog
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Don't forget the miraculously intact passport that goes along with that bucket of guts.  And which's survival has been justified at length by not a few commentators here.  One guy said "if it was in his back pocket, it would have been shielded from the blast".  Good thinking.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 02:30 | 6798600 GooseShtepping Moron
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I'm not a government shill, but yes, I believe Paul Craig Roberts is not only batshit crazy, he's also driving his fans batshit crazy by continuing to post his irresponsible rubbish. To be fair, I'm sure he really believes his own line about the Paris attacks being a false flag, but that doesn't mean any of the rest of us should. It makes no sense, and it is worse than useless when it comes to addressing the real problem, the Jihadist immivasion of the Western world. Ironically, the real purveyor of systematic misinformation is none other than Paul Craig Roberts himself.

If you want graphic pictures of bodies and blood, you can find them on the internet. There was a link to one right there on the Drudge main page all day, for crying out loud. It was a very gruesome sight and I didn't enjoy looking at it, but it's there if you want to see it.

I don't understand the point of any of this. Let us suppose for argument's sake that PCR is right and some kind of false flag is afoot. Then what? Just what in the hell are ordinary people supposed to do about it? What is materially different? I still think that hundreds of thousand of homeless Muslim invaders wandering loose throughout the streets of Europe are a greater immediate threat to the lives of the people there than whoever planted a phony passport at the crime scene. Or does PCR think that seven terrorist didn't blow themselves up in Paris last night after using the civilian population for target practice? Perhaps it was all done with smoke and mirrors.

It is ridiculous that we're even having this conversation. ISIS attacked Paris, plain and simple. If PCR doesn't want to accept the bleeding obvious, then he can take these idiotic columns he pens, fold them into origami swans, and cram them up his ever-loving asshole.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 03:19 | 6798648 coinhead
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"I don't understand the point of any of this"

Um... how about motivating millions of dopey, pussified Europeans into fighting another middle east war?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 04:17 | 6798705 FreedomGuy
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That is not any credible or rational endpoint.

I find the "tribe" and other conspiracies only make sense if you live in a basement and do not know history very well. Actually, the conspiracies pile up depending on who you hate most, Jews, CIA, military-indutrial, Illiminati, etc.

There is a distinct possibility and the evidence is much more credible that it is what it appears to be, one of a thousand terror attacks.

Maybe the Muslims are actually normally peace loving, democratic, tolerant nice guys and ten million pages of text and photos are all fake/d. Maybe...but I will not be betting on it. Maybe you also thought the Germans and Japanese and Italians and a dozen smaller countries were all dupes, as well. The evidence is roughly the same quality.

I prefer ZH when it is more economic and liberty oriented. The conspiracy theories zone is a hole you can never get out of. You really cannot ever get out of the endless circular arguments of the theorist. Everything is opposite-ville. Day, is actually night and moon beam conspiracy.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 10:20 | 6799352 hxc
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Well put.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 04:56 | 6798745 Victor999
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It's not a matter of what happened (or didn't), it is a matter of who was REALLY responsible and why.  And THAT is important.  The manipulation of public opinion is an important political function.  To rally the people to an otherwise unpopular cause (or set of actions) is all part of the geopolitical game.  If you can convince the people (and you are a classic example of this manipulation) that the only imnportant thing is that Enemy X did it, confessed to it, and is in need of quick justice, then they have done their jobs well.  If once the people are convinced, however, that they have been had (at which point you obviously  are NOT), then the true perpetrators of the crime become clear and the resulting focus of the people becomes unbearable for the politicos as they are exposed for what they truly are - vile, evil creatures of the dark, deserving of death after suffering limitless pain.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 05:07 | 6798753 Bach's_bitch
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Let us suppose for argument's sake that PCR is right and some kind of false flag is afoot. Then what? Just what in the hell are ordinary people supposed to do about it? What is materially different?

You really don't know? Well, what's different is that in this case the terrorists are whoever is primarily responsible for the false flag.

I still think that hundreds of thousand of homeless Muslim invaders wandering loose throughout the streets of Europe are a greater immediate threat to the lives of the people there than whoever planted a phony passport at the crime scene.

And their toasters are an even greater "immediate threat" than the Muslim immigrants. But in any case, to my knowledge PCR does recognise the threat posed by the immigrants, although not as a result of their *malintent*. They're people who don't have anything and naturally want to live normally again, and get aggressive when no possibility of that happening makes itself apparent. Now, western populations are not responsible for the well being of the former, but it doesn't follow from that fact that they are murderous barbarians who want to rape your wives and eat your children.

 

It is ridiculous that we're even having this conversation. ISIS attacked Paris, plain and simple. If PCR doesn't want to accept the bleeding obvious, then he can take these idiotic columns he pens, fold them into origami swans, and cram them up his ever-loving asshole.

Look, I don't have the answers, and I suspect no one else does either. Perhaps ISIS conducted the attacks by themselves, perhaps not. Perhaps they were instructed to do so by the very people who probably founded and nourished them to begin with, or perhaps they rebelled and went their own way and either conducted the attacks or not. Perhaps it was Russia, perhaps it was the US acting covertly or perhaps overtly from the perspective of the French authorities, perhaps it was China. The game is too complex, the players too numerous and the motives too multifarious, for an ordinary guy behind a screen to make any sort of cogent analysis. However, it just so happens that the people who say it was ISIS are beyond my trust (and that of any true skeptic), whereas PCR is not.

Not to mention, it is ridiculous for anyone to state that events happening thousands or tens of thousands of miles away from one's location, and involving entities and factions wholly unknown to one, comprise the "bleeding obvious". That statement itself renders you a fool who refuses to think about anything that disquiets him. PCR does not make any statements like that - he just points out the parts of the conventional story he finds to be suspicious and problematic. If you think that is a bad thing to do, then you are a taint upon the very civilization you supposedly want to protect.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 12:48 | 6800135 Bring the Gold
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That's incredibly well said. Skepticism is the only rational response to events since 9/11/2001 up to and including Paris 11/13/15

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 10:00 | 6799260 rejected
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Well the old  "Follow the Money" or "Who stands to benefit" is PCR's methodology which was pretty much the dogma back in the days of thinking people and what always turns out true. 

Today, however, it's whatever the government controlled media and their trolls disseminate,,, a media and government that has lied all the way back to JFK in my lifetime.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 11:23 | 6799658 Lost in translation
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Only an advocate for the globalist paradigm and surveillance state would take such a ludicrous position as the one you've shared here.

Perhaps you are not a shill, as you profess not to be, I will grant that's a possibility.

If that's the case, then your IQ is just too low to process information critically and think like an adult.  Your last sentence supports this possibility.

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:35 | 6798254 willwork4food
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Beware the octopus.

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:36 | 6798257 Cognitive Dissonance
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The "tell" is often that the mainstream media announces in unison, usually with the same words and sentence structure ( as if reading from a script) the perpetrators/bad guys are know with certainty and no discussion is necessary.

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:47 | 6798281 LetThemEatRand
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I didn't look much further, but Drudge and Huffington Post had exactly the same headlines today.  Both also repeated without question that there is a capital city of ISIS.  Come to think of it, there was also a headline here today about the French bombing ISIS' capital.  However, the Tylers did put "capital" in quotations in their story summary.

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:56 | 6798316 BLOTTO
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ISIS gets smacked by Russia.

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So, ISIS attacks Paris.

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good one

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 06:48 | 6798824 BeansMcGreens
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cia remembered Lebanon and did not want their dicks cut off and stuffed down their throats.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:40 | 6798411 bid the soldier...
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For me the 'false flag' tell is that this supposed sophisticated gang of terrorists, who knew what the West's reaction to their cruelty would be.   Their beheadings, their burning and drowning videos , the criminal destruction of antiquities in Palmyra ....

should attack Paris by shooting up a working class neighborhood.

And instead of the wreckage and ruination of the Arc de Triomphe, the Louvre, and the Eiffel Tower, settle for a rock club and a Cambodian restaurant.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:55 | 6798554 Squid-puppets a...
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I know, did isis get their inspiration from the start of Team America World Police? 'Dirka dirka muhammad jihad'

too soon?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 02:19 | 6798589 bid the soldier...
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ISIS got its inspiration from huge wads of $100 bills delivered by Victoria Noodleman or one of her proxies. 

 

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 13:22 | 6800321 dizzyfingers
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...and any dissent might get the dissenter killed.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:33 | 6798282 besnook
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if what pcr says is correct then europe has turned on the zionazis plan to invade europe with arab refugees(there are christians amongst them). that would be the big story. in the end politicians will protect their jobs (turn on eachother) regardless of whatever mission they may be on.

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:46 | 6798288 bluebear1914
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I do not suppose that the fact ISIL claimed responsibility holds any sway over Mr. Roberts commment?  Always assuming the US is the bad guy and out to get everyone is as crazy as assuming they are trying to help.  Perhaps Roberts can ask who else blows themselves up. Or is he suggesting that there were no murders and no wounded?  Or perhaps the French killed their own people.  

 

Tyler, i thougth this was supposed to be a good news source for financial ideas, contrasting veiws of the economy compared to the official veiw and a source of perspectives on finance and ecomonies that can help with the mess we are in.  More and more there are articles that hammer the West politics, way of life, people and so on that are just ravings with no perspective.  Too bad this site is turning into a venue for whiners about greivances that are extreme and biased.  

Sheesh.  Maybe too many are like those from Yale and Mizzou.

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:51 | 6798303 Inbetween is pain
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Tyler is basically an anarchist.  He'll print any propopaganda that supports an anti-government storyline (any government) and ZH readers love every conspiracy theory, no matter how far-fetched.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:00 | 6798325 LetThemEatRand
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Please show me any story before the 11/13 attacks that identified an ISIS "capital" that needed to be bombed to take out ISIS.  And then please direct me to the explanation for why the US -- which has been, according to MSM and the government, bombing ISIS for a couple of years -- hasn't been bombing said capital before the French started today.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:16 | 6798365 Nobodys Safe
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You Sir should report to your nearest FEMA camp for re-education. The reasoning skill set that you currently posess is completly unacceptable.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:25 | 6798382 bid the soldier...
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Our careful military did not want harm innocent peeps with the carpet bombing of Raqqa.

Just as for a year they have not bombed any of ISIS's oil tankers taking their income producing product to the market.  To do so would have upset the local Syrians.  

It had nothing to do with wanting to flood the market with crude, to keep the price low, to  punish and weaken Russia.

HEAVEN FORFEND

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 04:32 | 6798719 FreedomGuy
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As a libertarian, I admire actual anarchists, as in no government. The other meaning of anarchist is what the leftist agitators use.

Frankly, I like skepticism when it comes to government. The State is a religion the Left subscribes to, but not me.

However, the whole endless conspiracy thing is not only stupid at some point, but boring. It is too easy to do. I can make them up as fast as I can type all day. Keep a list of your favorite Dave Letterman, Top 10 conspiracy groups and ascribe everything to them. No evidence necessary. In fact, a lack of evidence is actually evidence of just how good and how deep and how impenetrable the conspiracy is, except to people on laptops in basements who know all the truths.

If Tyler really believes this stuff...well, it is his blog and he can post and repost away. But it is really basement dwelling stuff at some point and a waste of time.

If one is going to be a good anarchist in the true sense of the word, you have to stay connected to reality or you actually invalidate your whole movement. Besides that, there is an infinite amount of good stuff right in the open in front of everyone's faces to use as material. No need to theorize about phantom back rooms, shadowy-never-seen figures and comic book cast of characters. Use the stuff that is in the daylight. It is plenty.

Let's theorize that Tyler actually works for...Mossad, Jews, Bildebergers, Illuminati, NSA, CIA, bankers, etc. and ZH is a honeypot, misdirection, disinformation, hasbara troll seeking, KGB, ad revenue generating, dark forces effort.

Beware.

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:55 | 6798313 LetThemEatRand
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Did you receive the communication yourself that ISIL claimed responsibility?  And what is ISIL by the way?   What role was it intended to play in overthrowing Syria?  And who may have wanted it to play that role?   I suppose you're going to tell me that ZH -- a libertarian-minded blog -- is now part of the "blame America first"crowd that Rush Limbaugh has been calling the liberals for a decade or more?  Pick a fucking boogey man.

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:50 | 6798300 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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The so-called matrix was deinstitutionalized March 10th 2008. What American bureaucrats are doing now is just hanging on to a failed knowledge base whilst they spiral in a Hegelian manner towards a literal abyss of complete insanity, and violence, that will ultimately lead to their own destruction en masse in the end of a zero sum game that they must have known was their manifest destiny given Financialization/Securitization, subprime, and leveraged Fractional Reserve banking, plus a $1.4 quadrillion dark pool derivatives universe.

 

Bottom line is that we are dealing with Economists that thought they were really Alchemists, but turned out to be nothing but fraudsters in the final wash.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:02 | 6798331 will ling
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deep almost beyond pale but get it; with ya.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:47 | 6798420 LetThemEatRand
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[thinking to himself and looking at his co-worker's business card] - "his business card is deep almost beyond pale."

The deep state is infested with true sociopaths.  They believe they will win and they will double down no matter what because they must win.  To understand what is going on, it is imperitive to recognize that the people controlling the world believe themselves to be infallible and all important, when in fact they are petty and impotent.  The Western populations are much like the Germans following Hitler.  Most assume that their leaders are not sociopaths to the point of being suicidal.   Narcissists are dangerous in the workplace.   They are catastrophically dangerous in geo-political positions of power.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:11 | 6798476 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Knowledge is power, and the information bit is the currency.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 04:35 | 6798724 FreedomGuy
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At least you used some of my favorite terms, especially "Heglian"! You missed out on nihilistic, though.

Alchemy is the perfect analogy.

Sun, 11/15/2015 - 23:56 | 6798315 A Lunatic
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But why would (insert informed authority figure here) lie to me....?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:08 | 6798339 Yen Cross
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  What good is reading a book about history, if the reader was taught to memorize, as opposed to historical comprehension/representation?

 In another light<> What's the point of history if those reading it are taught to memorize it?

  There's a big difference, between learning and living history. That my friends, is why we have, " Free Will".

 That my friends, is why we have ADULTS and children.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:29 | 6798389 KashNCarry
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“Paris Changes Everything,” Say Merkel’s German Political Allies November 15, 2015 | Categories: Articles & Columns | Tags:

“Paris Changes Everything,” Say Merkel’s German Political Allies

Paul Craig Roberts

In my recent writings I have explained the many agendas served by the false flag Paris attack. I also predicted that other countries would follow France’s lead in closing their borders, thus dispossessing the dissenting political parties of their issue and preserving the political power and control of the European establishment. Germany is now moving in the direction of repulsing refugees: https://www.rt.com/news/322208-paris-attacks-german-policy/

Discussing the situation today with a friend brought to mind another benefit to the establishment of the Paris attack. Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, who were on the verge of taking the presidential nominations away from the establishment, have had their momentum disrupted by the Paris attack. By the time the Paris attack and all that will come in its wake run their course—new military measures against ISIL, Western intervention without Syrian government approval, PATRIOT Acts for European countries, and possibly a new and more draconian PATRIOT Act for the US, increased association of dissent with ISIL terrorism—Trump and Sanders will no longer command attention. Pushed aside, they will not regain the limelight.

Just as with 9/11, Charlie Hebdo and the Boston Marathon Bombing, the media was scripted with the story and ready to go the minute the happening was reported. There is no investigation, no questioning, just the media moving in lockstep with the scripted official story. Again the perpetrators conveniently leave their ID. Again the attack coincides with an official drill of the attack. No matter how transparent the false flag attack and the agendas served by it, patriotism whipped to a frenzy blinds people to the reality.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 04:50 | 6798741 thegazzman
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yeah maybe paul roberts

 

or maybe there will be a ground swell around the candidate with the stricest and most comprehensive plan for protecting the country's borders? i think everyone at this point associates border control with trump - i wouldn't be so quick to say paris will count him out

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 08:49 | 6799055 Wow72
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I dont think the establishment realized how much this would work in Trumps favor? Do we want 250,000 migrants from Syria coming in unchecked? If you do vote for any other canidate than Trump! 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 09:16 | 6799126 flapdoodle
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What PCR says about Trump/Sanders having the rug pulled out from under them is not true *YET*.

Right now, they can bask in the light of being on the right side.

But just watch - PCR may end up being right if Hitlery, Rubio, etc. change their tune - "Gosh, with Paris, it seems like we must close down our borders! Things are different now!"

The MSM will help Hitlery pull this off by downplaying her embrace of immigration, and Trump will not have *such* an advantage in having been right all along, but he will still be able to highlight the fact that he has *very* good instincts and Hitlery does not.

Remember, the *MOST* important trait for a successful Presidency in the US is (something which seems to follow some people around like a playful puppy, and the lack of seems to follow others around like a black cloud)...

...GOOD LUCK!

 

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:35 | 6798402 Niall Of The Ni...
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False flags, when they go according to plan, don't put important people in real danger. Hollande came within a hair's breadth of being assassinated by the Stade de France bomber. That got his attention. 

The discussions between the West and Russia over Syria at the G20 have come a lot closer to resembling an adult conversation as a result. Turns out burning bridges with Moscow wasn't so sharp an idea.

Even Leonid Bershidsky, Bloomberg's tame Russian, is now admitting Putin's Chechnya strategy after Beslan worked like a charm. 

Step one: wipe out the Muslims' ability to make war on civilized people.

Step two: appoint a ruler over the Muslims whose ability and willingness to keep the Muslims he oversees in line from then on is beyond question, He is to answer to and serve at the pleasure of the civilized, not the Muslim mob. Give him as free a hand  as he needs to do his job, but no freer.

In Chechnya that's Kadyrov; in Syria Assad. (Even Obama admits there are no other credible candidates.)

Chechnya's Muslims are much better behaved nowadays. There's hope for Syria's.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:08 | 6798473 kiwidor
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my downvote is for your first line.   the rest has a certain cogency.

the french are known for having presidents nearby the special ops when they happen.  remember the concorde crash?

apparently chirac was nearby.  you have to admit , and yes i mean YOU  HAVE TO admit, that having a political nearby is a nice way of lending credibility to a bullshitstorm.  but without a dead president, foreign minister, defence dept scumbag, lying govt analyst, banker ,etc, the danger rings like a cracked bell, a doughy clunk devoid of music.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:37 | 6798408 Rusty Shorts
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It only took 69 licks to bring France to it's knees.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 00:58 | 6798445 sgorem
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imho, merkel and her sheeple minions have openned the gates to the Trojan Horse of hundreds of thousands of muslims. they may not be radical, or fanatic jihadists yet, but once the host countries' constituents start beating and killing these "refugees" for fear of internal terrorism, then there will certainly be blood in the streets. sounds like a plan to me anyway............

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:15 | 6798472 Arthur Schopenhauer
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Old fin toil mat futherhucker shalkin tit.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:34 | 6798521 Arthur Schopenhauer
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Wear is the Ford, and mis sessage is always the hame.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:30 | 6798481 Radical Marijuana
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Hit the proverbial

nail on the head:

As The Matrix grows in the absurdity of its claims, it nevertheless manages to become even more invulnerable.

Invulnerable WITHIN its own systems, but NOT invulnerable to the accumulating, overall consequences of living INSIDE Wonderland Matrix Bizarro Worlds.

Civilization has ALWAYS been controlled by the vicious feedback spirals intertwining lies and violence. That has generated a wide variety of INTENSE PARADOXES, as interrelated sets of consistent contradictions, due to the ways that being able to back up lies with violence can make those lies become socially successful, but never stops those lies from still being false. Therefore, the social successfulness based upon backing up deceits with destruction, or enforcing frauds, drives civilization as a whole to become more psychotically insane ... WITHIN its own systems, that becomes more "invulnerable." However, OUTSIDE its own systems, that becomes more vulnerable, due to the longer term, accumulating consequences of its own runaway MADNESS!

WITHIN the social systems of POLITICAL FUNDING ENFORCING FRAUDS, it is NOT possible to either effectively prevent, nor prepare, for the runaway consequences of civilization controlled by the excessive successfulness of organized crime becoming runaway criminal insanities. As long as the majority of human beings continue to believe in the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories, based upon the dualities of false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals, then we are stuck in the deepening ruts of INTENSE PARADOXES, due to living INSIDE Wonderland Matrix Bizarro Worlds, where everything manifests in more and more absurdly backward ways, because the majority of human beings are misunderstanding everything in the most absurdly backward ways possible ...

Every episode in current events continues to reinforce the basic social facts that governments are necessarily the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. Much of the content published on Zero Hedge, such as the article above from Roberts, superficially points those social facts out, but tends to NOT admit and address the deeper reasons for how and why that is necessarily the case!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:50 | 6798540 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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The Bible informs us in regards to that which is a deeper issue, and that which you point out. God informs us that we are fighting against 'principalities' and not systems of manipulation that principalities use.

You are taking a structuralist functionalist view, but the structure is broken, and nothing is functioning on the verge of systemic societal breakdown. We are still dealing with principalities even after society completely breaks down. The deeper issue is consciousness of evil and what will we do about it in the face of a world that is fast on the road to hell in a hand basket. Read Revelations King James version and ask yourself if it ain't true, RM.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 02:32 | 6798601 Radical Marijuana
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No doubt

correct:

We are still dealing with principalities even after society completely breaks down.

Of course, I am not completely sure how such "principalities" actually operate, through which media, by what mechanisms. But nevertheless, I have concluded that they must actually operate somehow!

I have read Revelations several times, as well as watched numerous videos by various people attempting to interpret that. However, the same problems with respect to interpreting that arise with respect to everything else! Overall, I regard the Bible as a small part of the data base. But nevertheless, I am convinced there are other media, operating through other mechanisms, than are immediately obvious to ordinary, common sense experiences. Indeed, I presume that that is so to infinite degrees!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 03:25 | 6798652 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Epistemology, and ontology, along with philosophy, theology, and psychology, sociology, political science, et cetera, is a cumbersome mix I agree.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 13:40 | 6800416 Ocean22
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The partial Prederist view of revelation is the most historic, logical and intuitively correct. 90% of,revelation was fulfilled in 70 AD when Rome sacked the temple. 10% it further. It's not hard. Research it. Learn the truth.

Plus** the earth is young. Man lived with dinosaurs.

Theyoungearth.org

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 16:15 | 6801213 The Gladiator
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What?!! Do you not realize that a "god" is what is behind all this? Religion is the first thing that needs to be eradicated. Then the world could take care of itself without worrying about some invisible super diety judging every move we make.

 A god is why Israel thinks it has a right to kill Palastinians.

 A god is why Islamists think they have a right to kill christians.

 A god is why George Bush sent his christians to kill Muslims

 A god is why Europeans killed native Americans.

 The inquisitian,the crusades. The list goes on and on. This idiocy that "my god is the RIGHT god" is the power behind the corruptness of the world's collective minds. When humanity does what is morally right,instead of what their god says in just,all of these wars and killings will stop. Sadly,that will never happen. People have been religiously indoctrinated for thousands of years,and that is too much time for any generation to overcome.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:05 | 6802042 Radical Marijuana
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I regard "religions" as being arrogant attempts to privatize God. Religion is the most arrogant form of politics, that takes private property based upon backing up lies with violence regarding the material word, into the surreal dimensions of backing up ideas with violence.

There is nothing but the dynamic equilibria between different systems of organized lies operating robberies. Under more extreme conditions, such as were typical in the Middle East for thousands of years, due to wave after wave of military invasions, along with relentless environmental degradations, the pressures became more and more intense for different groups of peoples to form up into competing teams. Religions became the flags that different groups would fly, to identify who to fight. The more intense fighting drives the more fanatical fighters.

From a sublime point of view, it may be seen as ironic that ancient mysticism, as the source of religion, got almost totally inverted and perverted by people who attempted to privatize God, as the most extreme form of privatizing the environment. Backing up claims to natural resource with coercion became backing up claims to own ideals with coercions.

Religions, as the most arrogant form of politics, have specialized in being run the best professional hypocrites. The bizarre history of religions was to transform mystical enlightenment which approaches God into political processes which attempt to privatize God, in order to be able to rationalize and justify virtually limitless violence, to back up virtually limitless lies.

Underneath that are the same basic issues that natural selection pressures drove the development of artificial selection systems that became based upon the maximum possible deceits and frauds. Hence, the history of successful warfare, based on backing up deceits with destruction, morphing to become the history of successful finance based upon enforcing frauds.

Today, the two dominate State Religions are the monetary system, and national security. Those combined money/murder systems are the result of thousands of years of overall social success based upon backing up lies with violence, developing at about an exponential rate, due to progress in physical science. During that, some of the most dominate phases were the social systems operated by various religions, as the most arrogant forms of the political processes that existed during those times.

In my view, none of that has gone away, but only become more sophisticated, the same as slavery never really stopped, but became more sophisticated and integrated systems of debt slavery. I.e., the political economy today is controlled by "money" made out of nothing as debts, which is overtly backed by nothing, but rather, superficially appears to be faith-based money.

That fiat money system is actually based upon governments enforcing frauds by private banks. However, that is done in ways whereby the vast majority of people do not understand that, because they have been conditioned to not want to understand. Indeed, the monetary systems are the supreme State Religions, and the greatest source of friction between the Western World, dominated by the international banksters, and the Middle East, which is still dominated by the old-fashioned State Religion of Islam, as that area's historically dominate kind of organized crime gang, is against the Western World's monetary system, with its usury, etc. ...

My view is that there must necessarily be some death control systems, and those obviously do exist. However, since those were driven by natural selection pressures to become operated through the maximum possible deceits and frauds, through series of State Religions, we are still stuck inside of that overall context, and it is still politically impossible to have any rational discussions about the death control systems, due to all of the dominate sociopolitical systems developing to be operated by the best available professional liars and immaculate hypocrites.

Theoretically speaking, the development of weapons of mass destruction should motivate "us" to change the ways we think about things. However, all of the dominate religions and ideologies are pretty adamantly against changing the ways that they think. It appears to me that the only ways that the currently existing human artificial selection systems can evolve is through series of their own psychotic breakdowns. It seems politically impossible for any of the established State Religions to change and adapt, other than through the consequences of their own MAD self-destruction, since what actually EXISTS is the MAD Money As Debt systems, backed by the MAD Mutual Assured Destruction systems, whose MADNESS is exacerbated by the ways those are dominated by professional hypocrites.

Overall, civilization is necessarily controlled by the principles and methods of organized crime, while the excessive successfulness of that has driven civilization to become runaway criminal insanities. As far as I can tell, it is pretty well practically a waste of time to bother to try to understand that, since systems based upon backing up lies with violence, or enforcing frauds, tend to deliberately ignore any rational evidence or logical arguments, other than to the degree to which those could assist them to be even more dishonest and violent.

Of course, it makes sublime sense that natural selection drove the development of artificial selection systems to become based on the maximum possible deceits and frauds. However, the progress in physical science has enabled that to become amplified by many orders of magnitude, to become globalized electronic frauds, backed by atomic bombs. While it makes sense how that developed during human history, nevertheless that EXISTING situation has become runaway criminal insanities ... and I see no way to either effectively prevent, nor prepare for the most probable futures which will be the psychotic breakdowns of systems of globalized electronic frauds, backed by atomic bombs.

Meanwhile, most people continue to promote going backwards to old-fashioned religions and ideologies, as the source of "solutions" to the problems that progress in physical science has ended up becoming the EXISTING globalized electronic frauds backed by atomic bombs, which sort of psychotic MADNESS is not going to be ameliorated by any old-fashioned religions or ideologies, operating through the professional hypocrisies of false fundamental dichotomies and impossible ideals.

Most of world politics now are the struggles between the biggest State Religions, as the biggest forms of organized lies operating robberies, which deliberately ignore and deny the actual facts about what they are really doing as much as possible, due to their social successfulness being based on bullies backing up bullshit. Tragically, there seems to be nothing else that can be done but to try to fight bullshit with bullshit, as the overall situation automatically gets worse, faster ...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:55 | 6798552 joego1
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The really scary part is that the Matrix consists of people like Hilary Clinton who has a hard time managing her own email so what you are saying is true, unfortunately it's a just a bunch of fucking psychopathic bozos who are posing as a Matrix. The key is to be sane the day after the hoards of sheep are slaughtered along with the bozo matrix bosses. At that point humanity can start anew with another plan.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:56 | 6798555 kiwidor
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the really scary part is that people like you don't start shooting people like hilary in the head.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 04:34 | 6798721 dreadnaught
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Hillary, Jeb George, Cheney et al

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 02:43 | 6798615 KashNCarry
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Fighting over dust and building empires on the sand.  In a hundred years we'll be gone, and any remnant of the way the established order is today will also be gone forevermore...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 10:37 | 6799421 Baron von Bud
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Hi Rad. Bizzare is the right word. All this war and positioning and for what? Let Russia sell oil to Europe. Leave China alone and let it evolve. Let the Muslims do their thing. The West doesn't need to be the loud drunken neighbor. Who benefits from all this mayhem? Certainly not the people of America or France or decent person living anywhere. It's stupid power kooks whose sole purpose seems to be getting one-up on the other guy for no other reason than they can. In a world filled with lies, violence, numbskull leadership and bad money the wise man and woman should just withdraw. Don't own their money and live in peace as much as we can. All their schemes will come crashing down and then the people will notice when the financial blowback hits. Packs of fools everywhere.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 16:03 | 6801144 The Gladiator
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you just described religion.

(I can only up vote you once)

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 01:40 | 6798530 joego1
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I know, it's like- "oh shit we are at war"

Is this really fucking news???

In my humble opinion we have been at war for most of my adult life. WTF???:

Do you think if we are constantly dropping bombs on humanity constitutes some sort of war?

Have we solved any problems with this yet??

FUCK NO!!!!

Ron Paul and so many others screaming at the top of their lungs are so right!!!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 02:39 | 6798611 KashNCarry
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Michael Franti & Spearhead- Bomb The World..Armegeddon version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA8p_BV7uD8

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 11:05 | 6799562 innertrader
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Gee, I'm wearing a RON PAUL REVOLUTION t-shirt as I type this!  I bought 25! LOL

 

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 03:22 | 6798650 Surfer50
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Can I get an "Amen" brother?! 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 03:34 | 6798666 Atomizer
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John Oliver 11/16/2015: Daily Fantasy https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JF5blzjx8Ds Reminds me of our derivatives problem.  Tyler, good Monday laughter. Winks 
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 03:38 | 6798669 Atomizer
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Good job John Oliver. I'll hyperlink for the mentality challenged. 

(HBO) Last Week Tonight with John Oliver 11/16 ...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 04:02 | 6798690 quasi_verbatim
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This was a massacre of Europeans by non-Europeans. The labels and motivations don't matter.

Until you know who you are, you will not know your enemy.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 07:53 | 6798854 Wow72
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Martial law was in place as quick and easy as 1,2,3 with no fight.  Almost like a practice run... to say look how easy it is to implement?  It seems obvious.  No arguments at all.  Our governments are scum people.  Until we fight back it will only get worse.  France was a sucker punch to the jaw.  Gold barely budged??? Just another indication the whole thing was controlled in my opinion. Watch out people, nothing is as it seems anymore.  I hope people wake THE FUCK UP!  Its staring you in the face.  Forced mass immigration on the population? Who couldn’t see this coming?  We need to maintain our sovereignty and our borders people... look at what happens to others when they didnt? We can look forward to the same Thanks to O!  Keep them coming in the name of humanity so we can get a big dose of the inhumanity? Yippee!  No cell phone videos at a concert are you fucking kidding me? 

I think it is reasonable to expect something similar in the states so they can implement the draconian ideas they have secretly been proposing, like cashless, negative rates, and other "things" along with TPP.  I hope no one is surprised when it happens and things change in a heartbeat. 

Will you stand for it is the question.  Not many brave souls these days? I hope you Vets stop killing yourselves the people are going to need you!  A vet commits suicide almost every hour, its 22 a day, thats how much your government cares. WE NEED YOU VETS TO STAY ALIVE TO HELP SAVE THE PEOPLE FROM TYRANNY.  STOP FUCKING KILLING YOURSELVES WE NEED YOU!  Its just another part of their plan, the more dead vets the more control the establishment has.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 08:39 | 6798923 Wow72
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I think the American people may turn on the FED.  They should.  I can only hope at this point.

 

Hillary thinks Vets are doing just fine? I guess she's just out-of-touch? Or she doesnt care Vets are dying?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 07:51 | 6798907 cpgone
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Has the Russian media forgotten MH-17? The minute the story was reported that the Malaysian airliner was hit by a Russian missile over eastern Ukraine in the hands of separatists, the blame was ascribed to Russia. And that is where the blame remains despite the absence of evidence.

 

Has the Russian media also forgotten the “Russian invasion of Ukraine”? This preposterous story is accepted everywhere in the West as gospe

 

PCR is breathing too much cat poop vapors.

Yes ,the Russians invaded Ukraine. A soverign country.And then had a lame one-sided vote.

BTW , Reagon WAAAYYYYY   over rated.

As far as the airliner. The jury still out and probably just some drun ruskies playing with a missle.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 08:01 | 6798922 SmallerGovNow2
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Complete rubbish.  Google, read, learn...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 08:02 | 6798927 cpgone
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I lived in Ukraine in Sevastopol.

buzz off wanker.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 09:22 | 6799138 nevertheless
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So, since "you seem to know so much", what was George Soros and Gloria Nuland doing in Kiev, if not to over-through the democratically ELECTED president. How many billions of US dollars went into that operation and "our" NGO's?

 

And now that Ukraine and Kiev are in American hands, what is MONSANTO doing their????

 

You are full of shit, nothing here is a mystery but how someone such as yourself could be such an ignoramus. If you have a shred of intelligence, you can see zionist American fingers all over the coup in Kiev...

 

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 09:31 | 6799155 rejected
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" I lived in Ukraine in Sevastopol."

Well,,, apparently you don't give a hoot about neither, preferring the company of nazi wannabees like Asov?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 08:29 | 6798993 beaglebog
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If the ISIS encourage NATO aircraft back into the skies over Syria ... well, they have just reinstated their aircover.

 

We know that the US and its allies are providing top cover for the Islamists.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 09:53 | 6799199 lakecity55
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It seems what is confusing to everyone are the operations of the Atlanticists and the Jihadists.

Let's go back to the Russian invasion of A-Stan in 1979.

The CIA had no problem recruiting agents to fight the Russians (bin Laden) since the Communists had an official position of Atheism. Obviously, this would be a moths to the light gig for Muslims. At least the Apostate Jews and Christians were people of the Book.

How many jihadists has Saudi created with their Wahabbist schools? Many, many Sunnis bent on spreading Islam.

The goal of the Atlanticist Powers (to borrow Thierry Meyssan's description) is to remain Numero Uno by undermining the Russian economy (low oil prices, sanctions). Russia and China support the Nation-State concept, while the Atlanticist powers support a One-World economy dominated by their holding bank, the B for IS. This leaves the PTB in complete control of world Finance and Political power.

Patriotic Americans also support the idea of Sovereign States, in opposition to their corrupt and appointed "leaders." Thus, our citizens have more in common with the BRICS than our own PTB! Cut off that TV and do some actual research, America. The Deep State stole your Nation for keeps in 1963.

Thus, we are left with two strange bedfellows: TPTB in the West, and the Islamic radicals who are more than happy to take up arms against some of the West's enemies. The Secret Services of GB, USA, and Israel have trained and armed these groups, who are only to happy to attack other Muslim groups they perceive as idolators.

However, the devout Muslims among them see also the True Enemy: The West and its liberal ideals. While working with western intel agencies on points they agree with, the true believers are also of a mind to foment attacks against western targets on their own.

The West has blundered into creating a Caliphate. It no longer answers to its creators except in some mutually satisfactory areas. In this way, they are supplied with arms and training. They naturally oppose the Alawaite minority in Syria, but they more strongly oppose The West.

Thus, TPTB have to accept these terror groups will attack on their own agendas. This is tolerated by TPTB as collateral damage, as long as the dilution of the Nation-State can continue.

There is no coincidence Europe and North America are both under invasion.

The inclusion of the Yuan into the SDR will be a game-changer. TPTB are setting up their NWO/Globalist scheme by playing all sides at once, as usual.

Only the BRICS oppose this; only China, India, and Russia have the military forces to oppose it.

The proper order in our world is there should be NO one power! All States should be independent, trading and dealing with each other and settling differences through Law.

The highest PTB is, IMO, the Zionists: those individuals who may not even be Jewish, yet Jewish Zionists (not ALL Jews) control most of the Agenda.

All Peoples in our world should Resist TPTB. Globalism must be eliminated. However, this will probably only come about with some form of military force.

But, remain optimistic! TPTB have one Achille's heel! They are Arrogant and they often overreach; they think sheer Force will fulfill their Agenda.

When Christ was on trial by the Proto-Zionists, one Priest above the others saw the Truth: "If this guy, Jesus, is a fake, he will soon go the way of the other fake saviors. But if he speaks Truth, you will never prevail over Him. To put it in a secular perspective, Truth and Freedom Cannot be Destroyed.

Do not despair. We have Hope and Truth on the side of The People!

 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 09:49 | 6827058 TrulyStupid
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Not all Jews are Zionists 

Correct, but most evangelical Christians are fervent Zionists....essentially a doomsday cult trying to make the gibberish about the battle of Armageddon and end times a reality.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 09:50 | 6799230 2muchtax
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We will never have all of the details. The only thing you need to know is that ISIS was clearly created with international state sponsorship for the purpose of destabilizing and overthrowing Syria.

Every time they turn a corner they trip over an armored truck full of cash. They have taken possession of 1300 vehicles at a time (which passed through several customs agencies). They have on multiple occasions taken receipt of mile-long convoys of equipment.

They are sponsored by one or more powerful governments, period.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 09:54 | 6799237 durablefaith
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Interesting to see pcr call out Russia for singing along with the media song.

This whole article simply makes the point that the official story makes no sense. He does pose some  good questions that blow big holes in the official narrative.

But as usual, the comments were more insightful than the article.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 10:03 | 6799273 d edwards
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PCR sounds like an apologist for isis. so-called propaganda works both ways.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 13:32 | 6800384 Ocean22
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Why be so surprised PCR? RUSSIA is the one side of the same coin.

Redefininggod.com shows you how. Most of the world leaders have been overrun by the Globalists...only thing left are the people.

This is all theater for the masses. One big movie playing in real time. The martix is truely real....

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 14:36 | 6843219 RMolineaux
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It is difficult to follow Robert's logic when he suggests that the Paris attacks had the effect of WEAKENING the xenophobic nationalistic parties that are surging in Europe.  This is contorted logic.  If anything, the attacks have strongly advanced the agenda of the new right. In addition, the willingness of the perpetrators to give up their own lives certainly removes any doubt about their dedication to their cause. Is it possible that the CIA is using ISIL to advance its own agenda?  This is certainly possible, as it is consistent with the CIA's traditional methods.  But when you play with fire you will likely get burnt.  In its pursuit of the neo-con agenda, the US is doing irreparable damage to Europe.

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