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Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:44 | 6801922 Cognitive Dissonance
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Keep your friends close and your enemies closer?

This must be why every despot, fanatic and two bit banana republic is friends with America.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:47 | 6801933 Looney
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Speaking of bombing countries…

According to NYTimes, U.S. Warplanes Strike 116 ISIS Oil Trucks in Syria…

What a splendid achievement – 116 Oil Trucks!!!

One derailed train belonging to Warren Buffet spills more oil than that with no warplanes involved.

Free Warren Buffett!

Free Jon Corzine!

Free sheet for everyone! ;-)

Looney

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:48 | 6801950 City_Of_Champyinz
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And the incompetent muslim sympathizer in charge said they didn't want to bomb ISIS's cash cow oil tankers because they were scared of civilian casualties.

You either fight  a war to win, or you stay the fuck home.  We never fight to win, it is always a PC quagmire.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:57 | 6801994 Bumpo
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You only have to look at a few Mark Dice videos to realize that the average American has no clue that the US runs ISIS (Hell, we are big pals with the biggest head-choppers of them all: Saudi Arabia)

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:02 | 6802015 Boris Alatovkrap
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ISIS is bastard offspring child of Wahabi fundamentalism export from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Regime is use Wahabi madrasa to spread chaos to neighbor and distract citizenry from abject poverty of proletariat and obscene oppulance of ruling class. USSA is complicit by provide material assistance in exchange for support of petrol dollar.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:06 | 6802031 Bumpo
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Ill buy that for a dollar! By the way, your english is improving ;)

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:21 | 6802102 J S Bach
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I'd love to see the chart "Where ISIS Financial Support Is Coming From".  Those are the string-pullers.  Who cares what countries their pawns come from... it's the kings that have to be liquidated.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:26 | 6802122 quintago
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That list will look almost the same, except Qatar will be up there. 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:28 | 6802130 Son of Loki
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SA is involved? Whocouldaknowed?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:48 | 6802185 The Blank Stare
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Obama bombs the trucks only after Putin calls him on his limpdickedness and lies.

 

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/11/putin-names-and-shames-obama-into-b...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:26 | 6802306 FreeMoney
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A tweet in support of ISIS?  Who the fuck cares about a tweet?  How much of an investment in time and capital does it take to generate a tweet?

Seriously, mom said "sticks and stone may break your bones but words can never harm you"  So lets follow what mom said and look for actions.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:45 | 6802360 Keyser
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Err, that's the point, that it cost nothing to send a tweet... It is a free platform to share stream of consciousness thoughts, so it closely reflects reality... The FACT that most tweets come from SA proves their support for ISIS... 

On another note, did your mommy teach you how to use a suicide vest and to hate all infidels too? 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:35 | 6802549 Stuck on Zero
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When Obama saw this chart he was really ticked off.  "We're exceptional," he said. "Lets bring in 5,000,000 more Moslem immigrants so that we can be #1."

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:48 | 6802594 FreeMoney
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Hey Keyser,  Did you catch the total number of tweets in support of ISIS for an entire year?  yeah  all of 4,000.  big fucking deal.  and yes your right it takes virtually nothing to send a tweet, significantly more to send money or weapons or man power or material support.  Those would be the sort of actions that would enabe a group to actually do something.  Tweeting is impotent.  Send some money...now you are showing support.

As a side note, you wont see me defending or promoting anything islamic.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:57 | 6802616 Antifaschistische
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As long as we are spending a million dollars for every isisidiot we blow up---they are winning. Thats the real bottom line

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:27 | 6802123 Cycle
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Nail. Hammer. Bang!!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:04 | 6802039 Chuckster
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Boris...you are 100% right.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:07 | 6802051 New_Meat
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Well Done Boris!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:25 | 6802113 Chupacabra-322
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Common sense would dictate that the maximum amount of damage, fear & "terror" by these so called Al CIA duh terror organizations would be caused by directly attacking the Policy makers & their Crimjnal institutions. Not the Citizenry.

It's a Phony "War on Terror." Always has been.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:00 | 6802222 sun tzu
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True. It would be easy for any of these terrorists to target politicians or newsmedia. There must be a reason why it has not been done. The old saying is you don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:25 | 6802115 DogOfSinope
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N.N. Taleb had a good take on that.
Tylers should post this.

http://www.politico.eu/article/the-saudi-wahhabis-are-the-real-foe-islam...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:31 | 6802134 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is enjoy Nasim most when Nasim is very distraught and angry. Boy, he is tell it to bankster and ecommunist like no one is else!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:50 | 6802190 lazysunday
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+1000. Fuck if there was a country that had the balls to actually smoke these fuckers out of the sky, I'd be all for it. I don't have the numbers handy but weren't they also the biggest suppliers of Al-Queda back in the day too? 

 

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:55 | 6802397 Kirk2NCC1701
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According to Putin at the G-20 summit, "40 countries are supporting ISIS"

https://www.rt.com/news/322305-isis-financed-40-countries/

p.s. Sorry, Chuppa, I noticed only I posted this, that you posted this info already.  Peace, bro.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 02:35 | 6803363 Escrava Isaura
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Are we ever gonna learning?

 

I wasn’t commenting… until I read (had) a second reason: NASSIM TALEB link.

 

So, first:

Title: Are 'We' Bombing The Wrong Country?

How about: ‘We’ Should Not Bomb Any Country, PERIOD!

 

Now the second point:

Nassim Taleb: “…. we need to start by sending to them our preachers….”

 

C’mon Nassim? You’re starting sounding like Bush. You ought to know better. America needs to support the local moderates/opposition and not sending our pedophiles.

Haven’t we done enough damage to a very dysfunctional Middle East society?

 

Anyway, none of these will happen……. Beside Nassim backpedaling.

 

 http://www.politico.eu/article/the-saudi-wahhabis-are-the-real-foe-islamic-terrorists-salafi-violence/

 

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:31 | 6802136 loregnum
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So you are fine with civilian casulaties and feel the U.S should take more of them to "beat" their very own creation and "terrorist" group which anyone with a brain knows the CIA is pulling the strings of. Gotcha

I can only hope you die tomorrow and do so as collateral damage from someone claiming to be fighting someone else. It'd save the world from wasting more resources on your useless ass. Or better yet, I don't want you to die but anyone in your family (especially children if someone sadly spread their legs for you to create some) or friends you care about. Let me guess...you'd have an issue with civilian casulaties if it affects your personal life but if it is some Muslims (the second largest religion in the world) then it is A-OK.

The stupidity of the human species really knows no bounds. 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:35 | 6802150 Chupacabra-322
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Putin at Turkey Summit

ISIS Financed by 40 Countries, #G20 members included:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t1qHORKKLls

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 01:21 | 6803245 JimmyRainbow
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well, dropping weapons in the desert does not sound as if civilian casualties are of any concern

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:50 | 6801951 ZerOhead
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I wonder how many of those 404 twits are from Langley...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:54 | 6801990 Dinero D. Profit
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Frijoles!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:04 | 6802032 Nassim
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I guess - like for MH17 - their satellites never saw these trucks before.

They did nothing until Putin showed photos of the huge line of trucks filling up on almost-free oil.

"Putin: ISIS financed from 40 countries, including G20 members"

https://www.rt.com/news/322305-isis-financed-40-countries/

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:26 | 6802120 Cycle
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Speaking of trucks, is there one investigative reporter out there that could figure out where ISIS is getting all those nice Toyota trucks?  Or do they have accidents after they uncover the mystery?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:01 | 6802225 Badsamm
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When do we bomb the people that were buying the oil from ISIS

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 01:14 | 6803228 JimmyRainbow
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yeah after three years they have found 116 tracks in the desert, traveling from oil wells to turkey and or elsewhere daily....

must have been a bit of dust on the satelitte lens all the time

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:03 | 6802236 Earth Ling
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The fact that Israel is not on the list says a lot about their sophistication and / or control.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:05 | 6802346 LibertarianMenace
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I opt for the latter.

It didn't take long to cash in on  France.  IOW, we at the Hexagram instigated this, so now go kill Muzis so we won't have to.

And what do we have here? Coincidence?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 22:49 | 6802822 uhland62
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They take money from whoever is offering. Why wouldn't they. Makes life easy, just take the money and do as you're told. Easy pisi like Sisi. 

Maybe America is a bit slwo, Saudi has been a friend and ally for over 60 years. Out of habit they are still friends, good customers for weaponry, too. They even got a special permit by Bush II to fly the Bin Laden family out of Texas. 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 16:22 | 6805823 r0mulus
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Because we use them to oppress their populations and siphon off their productivity for us!

Well, ok, not 'us' like 'us' regular people. 'Us' as in our own domestic hegemons.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:44 | 6801927 HedgeAccordingly
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Bremmer. 

the G20 has it figured out..

G20 leaders look to halt funds to terror groups
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:11 | 6802072 Bollixed
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You forgot the sarc tag. From that drivel...

"We are on the right track, but clearly what happened in Paris is going to push towards newer, stronger initiatives,” said Lombardi, a former board member of the International Monetary Fund."

They're just acknowledging their new ability to screw us even more.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:28 | 6802128 sgt_doom
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http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1892477-anti-terrorist-hacker-group-reveals-40-isis-websites-protected-by-us-tech-firm/

According to information provided by anti-terrorist hacker group Ghost Security(GhostSec), close to 40 pro-ISIS websites are using the services of a Silicon Valley company called CloudFlare. CloudFlare is a content delivery network that provides services to speed up websites and render them virtually immune to distributed denial of service, or DDS, cyberattacks that can overload websites to bring them offline.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 16:25 | 6805845 r0mulus
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It's kind of sad that this is closest Bremmer can come to publicly rebuking the MIC and it's idiotic machinations. He sure is one smart dude otherwise.

I remember seeing him speak a few years back, after the Maidan massacre had taken place. During open question period, one audience member asked him point blank what he thought of all the anti-Russian propaganda that was being aired on Western media. He completely ignored the person and answered a different question entirely. I thought it incredibly cowardly of him and haven't really forgiven him for it.

Cue MH-17 and other bs and here we are now. Thanks, Ian.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:44 | 6801929 European American
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Take out DC, Tel Aviv, City of London and maybe NY City, and most, if not all, of our global problems will be reduced, dramatically.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:12 | 6802077 Fester
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Maybe NY?  WTF  

 

Hit the whole eastern seaboard.  Minimum hit the ivy league shcools.  

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:49 | 6802186 assistedliving
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NY?  F#$k you all.  I live here and let me tell you this place is THE BEST PLACE ON EARTH

bar none.  Aside from the most talented, best people ON EARTH, drive an hour IN ANY DIRECTION

and you can find any paradise you want.  Six airports and you can be in ANY PARADISE ON EARTH.

so F&#k you mad bomber quick fix pseudo problem solvers when YOU ARE A PART OF THE PROBLEM

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:40 | 6802343 Fester
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You sound like your pretty high up in the free shit army.  You and your fellow NY's need to live within your means.  

 

When the union breaks I hope we are on oppsite sides.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:58 | 6802412 cheech_wizard
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One glance at the comments in the NY Times has me convinced that like cancer, radiation treatment in high doses is probably the correct solution for NY city.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 23:27 | 6802946 BarkingCat
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New Yorker are also pretty stupid. They have a baseball team called the Yankees.

Problem is that New Yorkers are not Yankees.

New York is not part of New England.

 

Oher than that they are some of the world's biggest assholes.  I have been saying since the 1980s that we should use New York as a nuclear test site.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 01:15 | 6803231 e_goldstein
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John Carpenter had it right. Blow up the bridges, flood the tunnels and turn it into a giant prison.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:22 | 6802105 Kayman
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You forgot Mecca.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:49 | 6802188 nevadan
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Bingo

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:56 | 6802381 Kirk2NCC1701
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Medina and... RIYADH!

I promise you that no "Guy in the Sky" (GITS) will beam down or lift a finger, in spite of what centuries of clerical con-men have convinced gullible people.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:44 | 6801932 OldPhart
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Lovely.

Let's give them some more cash and weapons.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:45 | 6801936 boogerbently
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More than Egypt, Kuwait, Palestine or Lebanon, we should be bombing ourselves.

Let's start with Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia.....

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:10 | 6802060 snr-moment
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more like minneapolis and dearborn

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:52 | 6802195 Winston Churchill
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And Leeds,Bradford ,Birmingham,Luton.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:46 | 6801941 Dr. Engali
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Yes, but that never stopped us before.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:47 | 6801942 homebody
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You only have to bomb certain neighborhoods.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:49 | 6801960 SharkBit
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USSA supporters from Langley.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:50 | 6801968 DFCtomm
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ISIS is Suni, so of course Saudi is the nation with the most ISIS support. However, what you don't understand is that the Sunis are ours, or perhaps we're theirs is more accurate.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:06 | 6802044 DetectiveStern
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4.5%ish of Saudi Twitter accounts support ISIS. That's a huge number of support way more than any extremist party in the West would get. Could you imagine 4.5% of US twitter accounts being the KKK.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:10 | 6802066 New_Meat
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Stern:

"Could you imagine 4.5% of US twitter accounts being the KKK."

I can't, but if I were in the "Show-Me Univresity", I'd know that it was underestimated by a factor of 5.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:51 | 6801972 Mini-Me
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I can't think of a more hare-brained policy than to steal from a dwindling middle class and give the loot to "moderate" jihadists.  Absolutely insane.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:53 | 6801983 agent default
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Good enough for government work.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:25 | 6802116 Kayman
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Mini-Me

Absolutely insane- but extremely profitable to our overlords.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:18 | 6802487 COL Jackson
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Well theres a reason why "moderate" insurgents cost $85 Million a piece.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:51 | 6801973 Normalcy Bias
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Yes.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:01 | 6802018 Chuckster
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A Clit Eastwood reply.  Short and sweet.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:52 | 6801976 o r c k
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So, the US is just gonna say it's sorry and now start bombing ISIS for real? And, admit defeat in the plan to assassinate Assad?  

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:03 | 6802024 DetectiveStern
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Nah they will spin it so that Russia is helping ISIS and NATO are fighting ISIS and thus Russia. Idiots will believe it.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:29 | 6802132 Kayman
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orck

Kinda the same blueprint for isolating the tin-pot dictator Castro 'cause he wouldn't play nice with AT+T, Dole and the Mafia.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:52 | 6801978 pound the vix
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Time to send a non virtual tweet of 140 kilo tons or less to each of those twits

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:56 | 6801984 L Bean
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The US tweets are from mentally ill Jewish kids in their basements.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/fbi-says-australian-isis-jihadist-who-encou...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:57 | 6802007 new game
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it started as digital print, then it became stimulation for jobs; the MIC...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:03 | 6802009 Dre4dwolf
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WOW everyone tweeting within the USA supporting ISIS should be like.... investigated maybe? lol

I wonder how many of those tweets are out of the White House .... 

 

So like we have over 4,000 active twitter accounts operating inside the USA supporting ISIS...and no one is being investigated????? WHILE SYRIAN REBELS ARE BEING DUMPED INTO NEW ORLEANS LOL?

Cmon man.... how dumb is this shit?

 

If this was WWII and Japanese U.S. Residents were tweeting support for Japans attack on pearl harbor..... they would be rounded up and disappeared. 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:37 | 6802153 Kayman
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Dre4dwolf

But...but...but... that wouldn't be PC man. 

After all, once all the infidels are murdered, Islam becomes the religion of peace.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:51 | 6802191 logicalman
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All religions are methods of herd control.

They are all dangerous to critical thinking.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:58 | 6802010 Low IQ fan of VVP
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What? We America not number 1?! Don't those guys we hired know how to fake their IPs and stuff?

Oh wtf, just bomb them so we #1!!

Oh wait...

/s

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:03 | 6802029 Atomizer
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Reminds me of the Howard Hunt, Mark Felt thriller novel days. Who's the new Deep Throat character? 

Revealed – Underwear bomber a CIA informant » The Right Scoop -

CIA/DoD Reckless on Jihad: Fallen CIA Operative Family Speaks ...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:04 | 6802037 YesWeKahn
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Who was the idiot sending warship to China? Did China have anything to do with 9/11 3/11 11/13?

Who started all this hate?

Why can't islam tolerate westerns and isreali?

Why can't Isreal live better with its neighbor, instead of using its influence in US and Europe to infinitely trying to destroy so called terrorists?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:09 | 6802058 Wahooo
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So a bunch of Israeli intelligence outfits are using proxy servers in Saudia Arabia, Iraq and the US to tweet support for isis?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:11 | 6802068 Gothic Optimism
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Maybe bombing the ISIS filming location in Texas would be a start. We may likely kill some ISIS terrorists there, and a few CIA operatives as collateral damage.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:11 | 6802073 The Gladiator
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Israelies don't tweet?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:16 | 6802091 smacker
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Nor France and Belgium but both are hotbeds of Islamic madness.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:12 | 6802075 WTFUD
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The British still hold the torch for numbing the minds of subjects. The leaders of Daesh are frying what's left of the grey matter in the middle-east and joining up with ISIS keeps you from loitering with no intent. ISIS are the new Gestapo using tech as a low-cost recruitment and propaganda vehicle.

Each Daesh Command Post has a direct link to a designated NSA Field Operative.

If we all lived in perpetual chaos, death & destruction, i'm sure it would shape our attitude/outlook.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:14 | 6802081 smacker
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"United Kingdom 139 tweets"

 

That's it then.

Cameron must forget his craving to bomb Syria and order the MOD to bomb Britain.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:33 | 6802143 Gypsy Ramono
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The United States 404 tweets

Great idea Smacker, Those ISIS bastards are everywhere. Obama can order the USAF to start bombing the USA! That will teach those terrorists not to fuck with the good ole US of A!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:12 | 6802272 smacker
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Right on.

Wipe out Washington/Langley/Westminster/Brussels/NATO HQ and that's the end of terrorism.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:25 | 6802112 nnnnnn
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UK topped tunesia    LOLkowski

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:31 | 6802133 Atomizer
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Hollywood can create a new movie with Charlie Sheen as a CIA (infected HIV operative) taking down Obama's refugee program by a deadly spread of Islam HIV infection within male ISIS terrorist cell circles. 

Obama will grant aggressor's with a free healthcare plan. 

/sarc

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:31 | 6802135 sam i am
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Why France?

http://thesaker.is/why-france/

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:35 | 6802149 JamaicaJim
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THE TWITTERTWAT WAR!

 

FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE THIS SHIT.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:38 | 6802159 Vlad the Inhaler
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Hey look at #4.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:14 | 6802278 22winmag
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Yes. look at #4.

 

The South was right!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:49 | 6802187 Niall Of The Ni...
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Saudi's about 14 years (at least) overdue for being re-purposed as an testing range for hydrogen bombs. Anybody who hasn't figured that out must be new here.

Next question?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:53 | 6802200 williambanzai7
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Call the Texas Ranger

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:56 | 6802210 QQQBall
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I nas country of 300MM people, 400 are "supposed" ISIS supporters. Define supporter, cause 1/2 those are probably flaming the ISIS faithful. The other 200 are outta Langley. Shit everyone know that ISIS don't use Twatter, they use PS4. 

Syria is gonna get rubbleized even faster now. More collateral damage, more bombed hospitals and another lacky will be installed as president of Syria... Maybe that joker Malaki or whatever hs face was is still running around somewhere?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:17 | 6802220 Radical Marijuana
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Saudi Arabia's rulers made their decisions to integrate into the Western Banksters' world. It is those Banksters who are the pyramidion people, within the globalized social pyramid systems, that are behind the established systems of debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits.

The "War on Terror" was driven by the Banksters to become a self-fulfilling prophesy. That was similar to an earlier phase of the same sorts of social processes, namely the "War on Drugs," as well as similar to numerous other historical episodes which were examples of the basic systems of debt slavery backed by wars based on deceits.

Generally speaking, it should be obvious that Saudi Arabia has developed an enormous stake in the Western World's overall systems of private property based upon backing up claims with coercions, because Saudi Arabia was sitting on top of the largest pool of easily accessible petroleum resources, that could be extracted, and turned into money, within the Western World's monetary systems, whereby MONEY IS MEASUREMENT BACKED BY MURDER, as the most abstract form of private property based on backing up claims with coercions. Through the Petrodollar systems, as the American Dollar, backed by the American Military (along with the original police enforcing taxation that had to be paid with that American Dollar), the ruling classes of Saudi Arabia have become heavily invested in everything that the Western World's Banksters have been doing.

I REPEAT some of the basics which are behind the superficial statistics pointed out in the article above, that it appears that ISIS has support in Saudi Arabia, within the overall context that the CIA, etc., were made and maintained by the Banksters, to advance their overall globalized agenda, which appears to have mostly included funding the sets of self-fulfilling prophesies that created Al CIAda, and then ISIS, etc., (as numerous articles republished on Zero Hedge have been pointing out appears to have most probably been the case.)

I would guess that most of those "tweets" were being made by "useful idiots," who do not appreciate the degree to which their opinions were the product of the biggest bullies being able to promote their bullshit view of the world. Indeed, I believe that most of the people who think that the "blowback" was not intended, or unforeseen, rather than planned upon as the longer term consequences, are also effectively "useful idiots," or controlled opposition that is not publicly able and willing to admit and address the degree to which everything is operating through systems of lies backed by violence, which have had thousands of years to become quite perfected as very sophisticated systems of social control, despite those systems increasingly being dominated by the most psychotic psychopaths.

I regard "religions" as being arrogant attempts to privatize God. Religion is the most arrogant form of politics, that takes private property, based upon backing up lies with violence regarding the material word, into the more surreal dimensions of backing up ideas with violence. Since there was nothing but the dynamic equilibria between different systems of organized lies operating robberies, under more extreme conditions, such as were typical in the Middle East for thousands of years, due to wave after wave of military invasions, along with relentless environmental degradations, the pressures became more and more intense for different groups of peoples to form up into competing teams. Religions became the flags that different groups would fly, to identify who to fight. The more intense fighting drives the more fanatical fighters.

From a sublime point of view, it may be seen as ironic that ancient mysticism, as the source of religion, got almost totally inverted and perverted by people who attempted to privatize God, as the most extreme form of privatizing the environment. Backing up claims to natural resources with coercions became backing up claims to own ideals with coercions. Religions get entangled in the material systems, which have become symbolically mediated by monetary systems, which are measurements backed by murders.

Religions, as the most arrogant form of politics, have specialized in being run the best professional hypocrites. The bizarre history of religions was to transform mystical enlightenment which approaches God into political processes which attempt to privatize God, in order to be able to rationalize and justify virtually limitless violence, to back up virtually limitless lies. Underneath that are the same basic issues that natural selection pressures drove the development of artificial selection systems which became based upon the maximum possible deceits and frauds. Hence, the history of successful warfare, based on backing up deceits with destruction, morphing to become the history of successful finance based upon enforcing frauds.

Today, the two most dominate State Religions are the monetary system, and national security. Those combined money/murder systems are the result of thousands of years of overall social success based upon backing up lies with violence, developing at about an exponential rate, due to progress in physical science. During that, some of the most dominate previous phases were the social systems operated by various religions, as the most arrogant forms of the political processes that existed during those previous times, and therefore, still continue to be significant today.

In my view, none of that has gone away, but only become more sophisticated, the same as slavery never really stopped, but became more sophisticated and integrated systems of debt slavery. I.e., the political economy today is controlled by "money" made out of nothing as debts, which is overtly backed by nothing, but rather, superficially appears to be faith-based money. That fiat money system is actually based upon governments enforcing frauds by private banks. However, that is done in ways whereby the vast majority of people do not understand that, because they have been conditioned to not want to understand. Indeed, the monetary systems are the supreme State Religions, and the greatest source of friction between the Western World, dominated by the International Banksters, and the Middle East, which is still largely dominated by the old-fashioned State Religion of Islam, as that area's historically dominate kind of organized crime gang, is against the Western World's monetary system, with its usury, etc. ...

There have developed quite the hyper-complicated INTENSE PARADOXES, due to the ruling classes in Saudi Arabia becoming so wedded to the International Banksters, which are controlling NATO countries, and especially operated through the Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire. To attempt to cut through the Gordian Knot of those hyper-complexities, my view is that there must necessarily be some death control systems, and those obviously do exist. However, since those were driven by natural selection pressures to become operated through the maximum possible deceits and frauds, through series of State Religions, we are still stuck inside of that overall context, and so, it appears to still be politically impossible to have any rational discussions about the death control systems, due to all of the dominate sociopolitical systems developing to be operated by the best available professional liars and immaculate hypocrites.

The social successfulness fundamentally based upon being able to back up lies with violence, manifesting through money based on measurement backed by murder, are something that the Saudi Arabian ruling classes, and the rest of their population, to some degree, have bought into. (Consider the degree to which they depend upon being integrated into the global economy, mediated through the Western World's Bankster Domination, because Saudi Arabia's population of about 1 million, that their desert could support, has exploded to become about 30 million, due to their money from selling their oil!)

Theoretically speaking, the development of weapons of mass destruction should motivate "us" to change the ways "we" think about things. However, all of the dominate religions and ideologies are pretty adamantly against changing the ways that they think! It appears to me that the only ways that the currently existing human artificial selection systems could actually evolve is through series of their own psychotic breakdowns. It seems politically impossible for any of the established State Religions to change and adapt, other than through the consequences of their own MAD self-destruction, since what actually EXISTS is the MAD Money As Debt systems, backed by the MAD Mutual Assured Destruction systems, whose MADNESS is exacerbated by the ways those are dominated by professional hypocrites.

Overall, civilization is necessarily controlled by the principles and methods of organized crime, while the excessive successfulness of that has driven civilization to become runaway criminal insanities. As far as I can tell, it is pretty well practically a waste of time to bother to try to understand that, since systems based upon backing up lies with violence, or enforcing frauds, tend to deliberately ignore any rational evidence or logical arguments, other than to the degree to which those could assist them to be even more dishonest and violent.

Of course, it makes sublime sense that natural selection drove the development of artificial selection systems to become based on the maximum possible deceits and frauds. But nevertheless, that means that current events are quite hyper-complicated to put into proper perspective, since the American Governments have been Bankster Controlled, as have the Saudi Arabian Governments also been, both of which situations result in us living inside Wonderland Matrix Bizarro Worlds to quite awesomely astonishing degrees!

The progress in physical science has enabled that to become amplified by many orders of magnitude, to become globalized electronic frauds, backed by atomic bombs. While it makes sense how and way that developed during human history, nevertheless that EXISTING situation has become runaway criminal insanities ... and I see no way to either effectively prevent, nor prepare for the most probable futures, which will eventually be the psychotic breakdowns of systems of globalized electronic frauds, backed by atomic bombs.

Meanwhile, most people continue to promote going backwards to old-fashioned religions and ideologies, as the source of "solutions" to the problems that progress in physical science has ended up becoming the EXISTING globalized electronic frauds backed by atomic bombs, which sort of psychotic MADNESS is NOT going to be ameliorated by any old-fashioned religions or ideologies, operating through the professional hypocrisies of false fundamental dichotomies and impossible ideals.

Most of world politics now are the struggles between the biggest State Religions, as the biggest forms of organized lies operating robberies, which deliberately ignore and deny the actual facts about what they are really doing as much as possible, due to their social successfulness being based on bullies backing up bullshit. Tragically, there seems to be nothing else that can be done but to try to fight bullshit with bullshit, as the overall situation automatically gets worse, faster ...

Most of the world's population regards everything that I have discussed above in grossly over-simplified and superficial ways. They tend to take for granted thinking using the dualities of false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals. However, the basics are that governments are necessarily the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, and that has necessarily included the long history of the development of various State Religions, as systems of organized lies operating robberies, dominated by their own local brands of the best available professional hypocrites.

There is nothing else we can do but continue to muddle through the MADNESS of the dynamic equilibria between different systems of organized lies, operating robberies, within which social situations all of the biggest and best organized groups tend to most fanatically promote their own favourite forms of false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals, through their own preferred kinds of old-fashioned religions and ideologies. Thus, it becomes the most politically impossible for the biggest and best organized gangs of criminals to negotiate any better outcomes with each other, due to the degree that each group tends to be represented by its own varieties of the most professional hypocrites.

Since Saudi Arabia has so totally bought into the Western World's financial systems, which are based upon ENFORCING FRAUDS, which systems operate through debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits, OF COURSE, Saudi Arabia is proportionately entangled and dependent upon those systems, and therefore, contributes to promoting that overall system of claims of ownership, backed by coercions, through the currently dominate monetary systems, which are based upon backing up their measurements with murders, through Saudi Arabia's participation in traveling through the infinite tunnels of deceits and frauds, which are the means through which globalized civilization is being "controlled" ... which have become so totally entangled and hyper-complicated as to be spinning out of any human controls ...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:18 | 6802490 gladius17
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Religion is the fundamental building block of civilization. Without religion, civilization is impossible. The chaos and disorder we are experiencing now, which has been building up in advancing waves over hundreds of years, is due to the fact that the old religions are becoming increasingly outdated. The chaos reaches its maximum point just before the establishment of a new religion, which is an advancement and leap forward over the old religions, which are no longer able to guide and unite humanity. The new religion will not be an abandonment of the old ideas, so much as a continuation, taking advantage of the knowledge humanity has gained in the time since the old religions were established, particularly in the realm of science.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:28 | 6802522 nnnnnn
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islam is more fascism than religion

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:50 | 6803124 Radical Marijuana
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Yes, nnnnnn, any "State Religion" is a merger of state power with corporations, in the sense of groups of people serving a collective entity, with religions like Islam being sort of an old-fashioned incorporation of a collective power that endeavours to assert itself through the powers of a state, namely the power to rob, and to kill to back up that robbery. Islam says "surrender to the will of Allah." However, some extremely arrogant old men get to say what the "will of Allah" is, and furthermore, they assert that they are final authorities regarding that.

Generally speaking, the most psychotically dangerous organized crime gangs are those which claim that they have direction from their inside track to God, regarding their use of violence to back up lies. Islam is clearly one of the over-the-top forms of runaway, criminally insane, organized crime, which is how and why they ended up becoming a serious threat to the International Banksters, which were most sophisticated in their abilities to present their bullshit, as if it were a good idea for governments enforce frauds by privately controlled banks.

The end result is similar within the various forms of organized crime, becoming so dominate that they become the State Religions. Their ability to back up lies with violence becomes so overwhelming that the vast majority of people living inside of that system, for decade after decade, then generation after generation, become so mentally enslaved that they embrace their sort of Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.

E.g., Islamic Women are like Uncle Toms. In general, slave societies that operate under that duress for generation after generation eventually come to take pride in the stupid things which they did to survive. When an organized crime gang becomes sufficiently dominate, for a sufficient period of time, then their bullshit becomes the State Religion. That is actually what has happened to the Western World's Monetary System. However, few people living inside of those Western Countries are able to perceive that.

For those who are relatively outside of that historical system of lies backed by violence, then the absurdities of various State Religions become more obvious to observe. Therefore, someone who was not born and raised inside of an Islamic Culture is more able to recognize the degree to which Islam is just another State Religion, that backs up lies with violence, in sufficiently successful ways that enabled that kind of organized crime to end up controlling that culture.

In the Western World, the social taboos that now surround money are more intense than those which surround sex, while the vast majority of people are not even aware of the degree to which the monetary system IS a State Religion, that is being backed up by the other Western World's State Religion, which is national security. There is nothing else than systems of organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition, all of which tend to be operated by the best available professional hypocrites. The bottom line is that Islam is another form of organized crime, but then so too is every other social organization. All one has to do is look at how big those are in order to judge the intensity with which they are able to back up their lies with violence.

Overall, the International Banksters are operating a far more globally dominate form of organized crime than Islamic States are doing. But nevertheless, the greatest current conflicts in the world can be described as being between the Number 1 organized crime gang, the International Banksters, versus the Number 2 organized crime gang, the Islamic States.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 09:00 | 6803847 Amicus Curiae
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meet Gaia and the green overlords nwo..

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:53 | 6802600 DavidPierre
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Shaun Majumder talks with ZH's own 'Radical Marijuana' on the CBC.

http://www.cbc.ca/22minutes/videos/clips-season-23/marijuana-party

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 22:19 | 6802711 Faeriedust
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Luv, you have GOT to learn to break these posts up. You have at least two completely separate threads in this one: murder backing up money, and religion as the privatization of Enlightenment.  Both are good thoughts, but they are hard to follow and in danger of appearing to be wild-eyed rants when you mix them together like this.  Clean up your writing a little and organize it a bit better, so that more people will  understand and listen to your very intelligent ideas!

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:52 | 6803060 Radical Marijuana
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Faeridust, it would make NO material difference if I bothered to repackage my bla, bla, blah in any better ways. The most important of the various possible "radical truths" is that "the truth" makes NO difference to systems based upon backing up lies with violence.

I merely pass the time, amusing myself by posting my comments on Zero Hedge. There is NO practical political point to bothering to try to understand how things work, since the final conclusions end up being that civilization has become runaway criminal insanities.

I agree with with your criticisms as being correct. However, that still makes NO difference. Nothing I could say or do would make any sufficient difference to what is going to happen anyway. Rather, I do the equivalent of "art for art's sake" when I try to better understand what is really happening, through my sallies at attempting to articulate the conclusions I have come to, after spending several decades to try to understand. However, my basic conclusion is that I was born into a civilization which is terminally sick, and insane, and therefore, it is a waste of time to bother to try to understand that, other that to put some labels on the phenomena.

As far as "wild-eyed rants." LOL, I tend to try to be relatively rational on Zero Hedge, compared to my other ways of amusing myself!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:13 | 6802275 medium giraffe
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If in doubt, bomb lots of different countries and you'll get the right one sooner or later. Besides, war is just God's way of teaching Americans geography.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:40 | 6802345 css1971
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Saudi? Shock. Horror. Aren't they allies? Course most of the 9/11 bombers were Saudi also. Nothing to do with Iraq.

 

The sooner Saudi collapses the better.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:50 | 6802375 IndyPat
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God if you could have heard that fapping dildo Jeb Bush on Fox New this morning. He was mouth watering at the prospect of war and felt totally a-ok about crushing another sovereign country on some pretext about how awful Assad is.

Assad is under siege by head chopping, liver eating jehadists!
We armed and trained them.
But he's gotta go?

It's disgusting to think I've got to sit and watch my country once more decend into complete madness. I just don't see the truth ever making it to light in time to make a difference for anyone. Not when every perceived "legit" media outlet is completely captured.

And we have to take refugees, to be 'compassionate'? Why not force them on the Saudis. They are as guilty as any in this. They are more culturely compatible with these people and they sure as fuck have the money to put them up.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 23:45 | 6802995 logically possible
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Indypat, that was way too much logic all in one comment.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:53 | 6802393 orangegeek
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proxies

 

confused?

 

nevermind

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:56 | 6802410 Chuckster
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STATES REBEL AGAINST OBAMA

 

Does this mean some of the people that have been in a trance (constipated brain) are starting to think?  After 7 years....who would have thought?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 20:59 | 6802416 IridiumRebel
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Nice to see us in 4th!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:06 | 6802440 Bay Area Guy
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If we're bombing any country, it's the wrong country.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:07 | 6802444 Joe A
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Yes, it has always been SA. Not Iran, not Iraq, not Lybia, not Syria.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:15 | 6802478 COL Jackson
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I think the circle is a bit off, Langley is more to the East.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 22:48 | 6802816 flysofree
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Without Turkey there is no ISIS, period! All ISIS recruits, supplies and all finances are channeled through Turkey.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 22:51 | 6802829 Bazza McKenzie
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Before everyone gets too excited about the absolute numbers, read the fine print at the bottom of the graphic.  Those numbers are out of a sample of 20,000.  They are not the total number of twits in the various countries.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 01:31 | 6803262 JimmyRainbow
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funny for an internet site to post locations for twitter users.

is the data checked against used tor nodes and all that stuff?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 02:21 | 6803352 Peterus
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If the distortion is proportional for all countries it won't matter that much.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 04:24 | 6803466 SmittyinLA
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Kuwait, we should have left Saddam alone

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 04:28 | 6803471 goldenbuddha454
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obvious double agent

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 04:52 | 6803492 Sudden Debt
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400 in the US????

WHERE IS THE NSA NOW???

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