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Weapons Stolen From US Army Reserve: "Thieves Snuck In Through The Roof"
Now that IS Sinai has apparently devised an "innovative" way of getting bombs onto passenger jets (like recruiting someone inside to place a device) and now that ISIS proper has demonstrated its willingness to wreak havoc on unsuspecting civilians in Western population centers, the American public was probably plenty nervous about the prospect of imminent terrorist attacks on US soil.
But just in case they weren’t, the FBI is out reporting that on Saturday evening, someone - or several someones - somehow managed to break into an Army Reserve weapons depot in central Massachusetts.
Of course you don’t break into an army weapons depot and not take anything, and indeed, authorities say “some weapons” are missing although they declined to say what kind. If you’re in law enforcement, you can apparently find out by searching NCIC or, you can just head over to CBS Boston's website, where they'll tell you that the haul amounted to "six semi-automatic rifles and 10 pistols."
The break-in occurred at the Lincoln Army Reserve Center in Worcester where, according to ABC affiliate WCBV 5, “thieves snuck in through the roof and stole weapons from a building that’s full of locked doors.” We're not sure what's more amusing about that statement: the fact that they "snuck in through the roof" or the fact that WCBV had to say that the doors are generally kept locked.
Here are some images of the "highly secure" facility:
Intuitively, one would think that if there were some kind of elaborate terrorist plot against the homeland, the terrorists would have come up with other ways to procure weapons than pulling a Mission Impossible on the roof of an Army Reserve weapons depot, but that didn't stop the FBI from mentioning "terrorism" in their statement - albeit only to "dismiss" the idea.
“There is no indication that these missing weapons are connected to any kind of terrorism threat whatsoever,” agency spokeswoman Kristen Setera said in a statement. “Nevertheless, every effort will be made to recover these weapons immediately.”
Well, that's good, although it's difficult to imagine what the counterfactual would have been there: "actually, we're not really concerned with finding these."
And even as there's no sign of terrorism here - just some guys who are not terrorists running around with stolen military grade weapons - Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker wants you to watch out for anyone who looks like a terrorist. “The more opportunity people have to rely on citizenry to serve as the eyes and ears, the more it makes a difference,” Baker said at Sunday’s press conference.
So keep your eyes peeled Massachusetts, for this guy...
or this guy...
or maybe this guy and this cat...
Oh, and if you see the man in the following picture, call Langley to come pick him up - he may have gotten lost...
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We need lots of guns! - Neo
Damn you ISIS. Damn you to hell.
<Wait until one of these 'stolen' weapons is used in an ISIS 'terrorist' attack.....which is then used as justification for a full scale US entry into a ME WW3.>
No where in the article did it say they were assault rifles so we have nothing to worry about. Also, why not just post Gun Free Zone signs all around the facility to keep the thieves away?
What!? Nobody left a passport behind?
Passport is not needed. Suspects FBI will narrow down using list of background checks from Saturday night.
There are no semi-auto rifles in the US military. They are all select fire. They all have auto sears.
This reads more like someone that wasn't a moron, so I doubt it was a group of Jihadists, FFS they blow themselves up after all. This is fear porn for some other end.
Also, why were these weapons not secured in a facility that actually meet US Army regulations regarding the storage of weapons? You know three foot thick steel walled vaults? As a former arms room guy, I can say that there is something wrong with this story.
The Weapons were stolen by local Army Reserve or they went missing and this is a coverup.
I am willing to bet someone sold them or took them for personal use and made it look like they were jacked. I know in the regular army those AHAs and Arms rooms are checks periodically through out the night. I can't imagine it being any different for a full-time reservist. Espcially these obviously unsecured weapons.
I once had to guard an arms room vault the entire night because the power went out and it left the vault unlocked. We take our weapons very seriously.
Three thoughts:
1. The state of Massachusetts is the freest free fire zone in the USA.
2. Massachusetts has the most stringent gun registration laws in the USA, so when these guns get registered, the jig is up.
3. I definitely recognized the cat on the left. Who do I call?
Uh, news to me that Mass. has any required gun registration. Please quote the statute, regulation and code.
@NidStyles "There are no semi-auto rifles in the US military. They are all select fire. They all have auto sears."
The M-107 Barrett 50 caliber sniper rifle is simi-auto. Imagine what could be done with a few of those.
It's the greatest threat global security has ever faced.
All the weapons in the world won't matter once ISIS army kick into gear!
http://motivationdose.com/electromagnetic-pulse-attack-emp-blackout-usa-...
Read an excellent biography of Bonnie and Clyde by Guinn and it was amazing the number of times they broke into armories and walked out with pistols and BARs; time after time.
They probably didn't lock their interior doors, I'm guessing.
lincolnsteffens -
Does MA have a single law requiring gun registration?
No.
But, Massachusetts:
• Requires all firearm purchasers to obtain a license to own a firearm, and report any lost or stolen firearms to law enforcement. Prohibited purchasers include people convicted of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for more than two years or violated of any law regulating the use, possession or sale of controlled substances or has been dishonorably discharged from the armed forces of the United States;
• Requires upon receipt of the written notice of revocation from the licensing authority, the prohibited person must “without delay” deliver or surrender all firearms and ammunition in his or her possession to the licensing authority where he or she resides
• Requires any person who sells, rents or leases a firearm to obtain a state dealer license;
• Bans some assault weapons and large capacity ammunition magazines.
• Prohibits the sale of “unsafe handguns” not on the roster of approved handguns;
• Maintains permanent records of firearm sales, which contains all the necessary information about the gun and you.
• Requires the reporting of mentally ill individuals to the federal database used for firearm purchaser background checks
• Prohibits individuals convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors from purchasing or possessing firearms or ammunition
• Prohibits the possession of a loaded rifle or shotgun on any public way, regardless of whether the possessor has a Firearm Identification Card (FID) or license to carry.
Local governments in Massachusetts retain authority to regulate firearms AND AMMUNITION, and the local licensing authority in Massachusetts has discretion in determining whether to issue a license to carry a firearm.
So they have a database of anyone who can have a gun and anyone who owns a gun, except for any gun owned prior to the licensing law, i.e. a useless antique gun.
The real rub is the total control that local governments have. You have to apply to the local police chief for permission to get a license. If he grants it, you'll go right into the database. The scope of your license can be limited in myriad ways. About 50% of the towns say "no gun for you" as a matter of town/city ordinance.
So does Massachusetts have a single law requiring gun registration? <snicker> Uh, No.
Imagine the planning to repel down from the roof and then climb back up the same rope with a load of weapons.
You would need to know where armory was exactly. Where the security doors were.
I can say that there is something wrong with this story.
+1. Unattended, unsecured weapons lying around?
Dunno. Was getting a physical for admittance to the Air Force Academy back in '87 and wandered into the armory of the base where we were all being tested, there was shit stacked and jumbled everywhere.
What was real or training I couldn't tell you, but I could have walked out with a few concealable mementos very easily.
Agreed. Weapons are supposed to be stored in an arms room.N
In my unit not only were they locked up in room with a door but there was another door with thick steel bars.
Also all the M16 were locked in a rack - which means they also had a steel bar securing them in place.
Hard to not think back a few months to Yemen and our 'losing' an arsenal.
Shays Rebellion, you can read about it. FEDs keep an eye on those Western Massachusians.
Massachusseters .... Massachussetsese .... Massachussetsters ?
Massholes.
The city is pronounced "Wuss-ter".
No, its Wuss-tah.
Maybe in Bahstin, not in Wuss-ter.
They are only "assault" rifles if normal civilians have them. If a ramping Empire is carrying them, they are properly referred to as "personal defense weapons".
OMG! OMG! The terrorizers are coming to rape our kids and behead our wives! Get congress back to work dismantling whatever rights we have left as citizens. Get ready for retinal scans at every store and asshole checks at every red light.
They will welcome the second item on you list with overwhelming support in most large West Coast cities,especially San Francisco, Portland and Seattle.
In LA area all the white neighborhoods will also welcome it with open arms... and open cheeks
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave
Does this mean Eric "Fast & Furious" Holder doesn't need to ship them to gangs across the border anymore? They just take what they need right here?
Incompetence beyond comprehension
Maybe it was a distraction. Holder was actually returning guns from "Fast and Furious". He needed the space for his Christmas shopping.
Remember, it's half our fault just for making the stupid things, and don't tell me they or someone else would have have made them cause it aint true. So spread the love, that's what happens when you create your own hell.
Your comment is fascinating.
Lead-based paint chips, am I right?
I was guessing a really crappy grade of airplane glue .....but... lead paintchips ..
that works really well also to achieve that level or brain damage ..yes
If by "we" you mean humans then you are correct.
If you mean Americans, then you just made one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read on ZH.
Short list of other countries that produce and export military firearms: Russia, Germany, Poland, China, Serbia, Austria, Belgium, Switzerland. Those are just off the top of my head. I suspect that the list is much larger.
Caliphate ISIS kitties.
I knew these bastard terrorist's would eventually try recruiting feline lovers.
It was all just a matter of time.
JUST A MATTER OF TIME!.
ALL evil villains have cats...
That's his lunch.
No kidding, ISIS with freakin cats??? Who is writing/staging this garbage? Are they assuming that the American psychology will correlate crazy cat people with ISIS crazy? The cat people are coming!!!
It's pretty much the only pussy they can get.
It's all in the eyes -- that cat has more terrorist attitude than the terrorist holding it.
un-huh. If I get myself into a place like that I'm taking more than 10 handguns and half-a-dozen rifles. just sayin'....
The last roll of T P was missing also, jus sayin
They failed to mention it was all loaded into an Armored Personnel Carrier before they drove away.
Inside job.... the list of suspects is probably about as large as their roster of drilling reservists.
There is no spoon
I didn't know orange cats were terrorists. I have to keep a close watch on mine.
"Terrorist shot while clearing a jam in his AR-15"
The cat on the left has definitely been radicalized.
6 rifles?? Just about every red-blooded American has that many rifles...they're gonna start a terror attack with 6 rifles?
Yes and I think the cat from the right in the orange umpsuit is the victim of the radicalized cat.
Just curious...do you know the origin of your avatar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VFA-31
Here you go.
I thought it looked familiar.
I saw it as a patch in an shop here in Eastern Europe, liked it. Searched it on the internet.
What is weird that afterwards I saw another guy here having the same avatar, and he is older(registered) than me on ZH.
Makes me wonder if I liked it because I've seen it before!
No, these are Moderate Rebel Cats.
You can tell the difference because they look like they're well-fed. In any war zone, the well-fed cats have US backing.
That orange cat is staring directly at you, trying to steal your soul! Definitely a terrorist, and likely the mastermind behind all of this mayhem.
What do you mean. Every cat I've ever seen was a terrorist.
Mine are doing Recon in the barn now. I think they are planning an attack on the house and a distraction for the dog next week, but for now they are pretending to be allied forces.
Damn sneaky cats, mine ate the bowl of tuna I had on the kitchen counter, I found a mouse's passport next to it, but I'm pretty sure it was the cat.
Cat is Meowslim?
rodent worked for Mouse-saad
Meowist ?
Attack on Washington
next WEEK?
latest:
http://tersee.com/#!q=paris&t=text
Find that Twitter bot, he is the Oracle he knows the truth !
Musta been those Amhurst College students in a period of microagression. They want a safe zone.
The army has semi-auto rifles?
I wondered about that statement too.
Semi auto because the selector was set in that position?
Army RESERVES - I'm surprised they didn't end up with wooden rifles.
Yes they do, it's called the M1A Garand ... still used, and many others. Why do people assume they were M16's ?
Also the army does have AR-15's also ...
So yup they could have been semi-auto's ...
but rest assured good folks. ...one easy Risk free Way to get the money on those guns is simply to go to those Buy-Back programs Police does have in some States and Sell the Guns !
It's a No-Questions gun delivery :) and they pay for the gun :) :)
Nice going folks!
Wrong, those weapons are registered and you'd be arrested on the spot for stealin. Better used for their intended purpose, then turn them in.
Ok, hen it is going to be a false flag event perhaps in a school or theater free zone near you ...
Geez ... always beaurocracies!
If semi-auto rifles...they could only be sniper weapons...308's....50 cal.....more scary....
Or WWII stuff. M1 perhaps?
(from the reserves?) Maybe some ol' Garands or Krags or something :)
What? You say a couple TOW launchers and missiles are missing. Game changer.
Paging Cass Sunstein...
The cat looks familiar.
Krugman.
No, Krugman's a lap-dog.
True, but the cats above do bear a striking resemblance to the ones in this pic:
http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/100301_r19355_p646-8...
Cats. One is wearing camo. Look again.
No one dropped a passport? They're slipping.
Passports will be dropped after the weapons stolen from this warehouse are used in a mass shooting that is just around the corner
I don't think they had to go in through the fucking roof.
And the more I think about it, the more I think we just need someone like Trump to fire all the fucking incompetent and diabolical shitheads under government employ.
If they can get a rocket launcher into an immigrant camp in Paris...they can get whatever they want here... without this kind of insanely hatched scenario. It doesn't get any more obvious than this...
The queen is dead knuckler, long live the Queen(s).
What, and add at least 12 Million more to the unemployment lines?
Trump is his own trumpet and he is just as bought and paid for as anyone else. Presidents are selected for specific reasons; they are never elected in our lifetimes. Quit voting for these frauds sheeple.
One thing every New Yorker knows about Donald Trump, he is disdained by the Bilder-Rockefeller-CFR-Skull and Bones-neocunt-Central Park East crowd. They will fight tooth and nail to keep him out.
To them he is a tasteless bridge and tunnel nouveau riche.
And as far as he is concerned they can all go and fuck themselves.
Not 1 in 100 New Yorkers even know what bilderberg is.
Yep, Trump is Obama in 08...just the other side of the coin. Americans are falling for it again. The only thing exceptional about Americans is thier stupidity.
Getting Supplies for the Next False Flag, that was no roberrie ... that was a simple pickup from un-identified Official sources ...
Expect yet another False Flag to blow somewere in the world.
If that was not the case, then it's not a Roberrie ... it's simply Reverse Taxation ..Well done!
Inside Job is written all over this one.
"Sources tell WBZ-TV six semi-automatic rifles and 10 pistols were stolen from a gun locker." .... small haul if we are to believe anything coming from the ministry of truth. -Dave
Would they not store anti tank weapons or hand grenades at such a facility? Stuff like that would fetch far more dough or prestige in the black market than what was allegedly taken.
Most probably a service man who had to many unpaid bills.
Lol nice way to get a raise right ?
Can anyone tell me what the shot inside the building showed? Looks like lines of Trollies connected to a power socket, maybe waiting for the Uni-Sols to turn up.
Those are the lights hanging from the ceiling, that photo only shows the ceiling, taken from outside and low. Can't see anything actually on the floor.
Quick, we need to spend another trillion dollars on defense; shit, the local Walmart has more than 6 rifles and 10 pistols. Must of sent the rifles and pistols to iSIS....
Alot of Gun Free Zones in Tax-a-chussets....
Go long on "Cowering in Place" classes, learn how to best get into a fetal position hoping you are overlooked as the terrorists blow away your co-workers, freinds, and family.
The haul from your typical gun store break in is on par with this. No big deal here. Probably some kids just having fun. I love the way the news always comes down on gun collectors as having an "arsenal". What does an individual do with an arsenal anyway? You've got two hands. Ever see any person effectively deploy more than two weapons at once? News media are a bunch of retards.
Teasle: Are you telling me that 200 of our men against your boy is a no-win situation for us?
Trautman: You send that many, don't forget one thing.
Teasle: What?
Trautman: A good supply of body bags.
are nookular weapons stored as safely as here ?
"... 6 semi-automatic rifles ..."
(right)
(a military arsenal with shitty carbines)
(I'll buy that for a dollar)
Semi Automatic or Select Fire?
That could be a big boy semi automatic Barret .50 callibre snipper rifle,
or your run of the mill select fire m16, which most store bought semi ones are just as potent. Just have to know how to shoot and pull the trigger faster.
I wonder if they were semi-automatic rifles or assault weapons (which anyone with half a brain knows are automatic weapons).
Reserve armories all have alarms on their arms rooms. Weapons are locked in vaults. This must have been an inside job.
Yes. They would have had to have known exactly where to put the hole.
10 pistols and 6 rifles, I am puzzled why they went to such efforts with unknown but high risks for so little, I am not sure if even sniper rifles would be worthwhile. Unless they already knew the security, then it makes more sense, hence it does smell of an inside job.
Yes, what kind of idiots would assume the outsized risks and dire consequences of robbing a military storehouse and take items that could have been had from a mom and pop gun store.
Semi-automatic? If not a misunderstanding that would imply sniper rifles.
50 caliber sniper rifles?
looks to me like all those muslim, aka "Mexicans" that have crossed our southern border will need a little fire power soon. not that it's that fucking hard to arm yourself anyway, anywhere. lock & load boyz, and don't leave home without IT!
This is just a false flag they are making a safe space for Reservists with hurt feelings in the old gun locker
Santa grabbed them and more to do another weapons drop in ISIS terroritory.
I suspect they took a lot more than that.
You don't "sneak in" through a roof! Cutting tools, pry bars, etc. Not a sneak.
Tea Party Teapotheads ?
Hole in the roof was larger than the gun show loophole -
BTW - I don't think the gun show loophole is a real loophole -
I hate house cats.
I love sarcastic Tyler.
and if you believe they were only semi-automatic rifles, unless they were old M-1 rifles (real valuable for collectors these days) I got a bridge to sell you.....
Just some folks driven to despair by climate change and White Privilege.
Guess I picked a bad day to grow a long beard.
Mission Impossible ISIS.... That's perfect, it sums up the ISIS meme quite well. Watch your six everybody regardless of who gets blames these bastards do kill people.
BS. Real weapons are locked behind locks, bars, vaults, armories, alarms, and much, much, more.
Remember the army is a gun free zone. Can't have trained killers just easily getting access to weapons and shizit.
Agreed; inside job. Enjoy your twenty years, boys.
Hmmm.... the article practically overstates that that weapons were "semi-automatic rifles"
Now it's been a while but I don't recall my unit having ANY semi-automatic rifles. Ours were ALL select-fire (semi, full, 3rd burst)... or full auto... or select fire (semi or full).
What were these? Old parade Krags or Garands?
I really wonder if it's psy-ops attempt to connect "semi-auto" with "military-grade" with "terrorists", etc. etc. - trying to make it appear that anyone in the US with a semi-auto black gun is a criminal... that's what methinks.
What a joke.
They would have gotten far more and far better weapons by raiding my local gun shop (or my closet for that matter).
They didn't even bother filling out the 4473 forms!
These bastards are in big trouble if they get caught.
Whether or not these weapons were actually stolen, I would hate to see them turn up in a "terrorist" attack over here. (aka CIA run domestic false flag attack) Maybe some day we'll figure out who the real terrorists actually are. Hopefully before they kill too many more innocent people. How many more will have to die before the US either gives up in Syria or gets what they want is anyone's guess.
Duh,I think they're called video surveiliance cameras wherever guns are being stored.Must be the honesty system at that base,either that or the commanding officer is a moron.
Cats now suicide bombers?
>or maybe this guy and this cat...
Muhammad Stavro Blofeld?
Standard Disclaimer: "six semi-automatic rifles and 10 pistols." This is a joke, isn't it? Tell me this is a joke.
By gosh, we need to pass a law immediately requiring all owners to register all guns immediately. That way we can assuredly find the dastardly culprits when they register them.
The article speaks of "stolen military grade weapons" as if that is something of high quality. When it comes to hand guns and automatic re-chamber (semi-automatic) long guns, give me civilian quality any day. And on that "semi-automatic" scare word, every revolver ever made was a semi-automatic.
The article speaks of "stolen military grade weapons" as if that is something of high quality. When it comes to hand guns and automatic re-chamber (semi-automatic) long guns, give me civilian quality any day. And on that "semi-automatic" scare word, every revolver ever made was a semi-automatic.
Nothing like circumventing gun laws? Do you suppose they shouldn’t have them?
When a State begins to fail and the "order" it imposed begins to break down, these weapon caches on indefensible bases are the first thing overrun and taken by the incipient civil warriors. That is why it is funny to hear people say that you can't fight a military due to the weapon disparity. When that time comes, every random group will have heavy weapons and pose an existential threat to each and every unit that can be fielded. And when the army in question is fighting people in the same country it is based, that army quickly ceases to exist.
Americans will not be shooting at other Americans. America will have to be destroyed by nuclear war in order to fit into the global oligarch plans.
Now the argument for these pshycho-statists to demand the Army Reserve remove weapons from their compounds. After that, all our military installations will have weapons removed and stored at Homeland Security vaults... for safe keeping. Then the real invasion will occur.
Yeah Yeah yeah
All you good Americans , this is the way
How you defeat a strong enemy within (the US govt) ?
YOU STEAL THE WEAPONS OF THE POWERFUL ENEMY
and use its own weapons upon itself
so good (rubbing my palms)
but you plz steal the nukes
& set it off in DC
Then all the problems of all the world will be over
Get it ?