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The Crackdown Begins: Europe Just Passed "Strict Controls To Make It Difficult To Acquire Firearms"

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Back on September 11, Zero Hedge predicted the events which unfolded in Paris last Friday (and the resulting aftermath) with uncanny accuracy. Specifically, we said that "as the need to ratchet up the fear factor grows, expect more such reports of asylum seekers who have penetrated deep inside Europe, and whose intentions are to terrorize the public. Expect a few explosions thrown in for good effect" and we added that "since everyone knows by now "not to let a crisis go to waste" the one thing Europe needs is a visceral, tangible crisis, ideally with chilling explosions and innocent casualties. We expect one will be provided on short notice."

It was two months later.

But it was the "fine print" forecast that was most troubling.

... the second key role of ISIS is also starting to emerge: the terrorist bogeyman that ravages Europe and scares the living daylight out of people who beg the government to implement an even more strict government apparatus in order to protect them from refugees ISIS terrorists.

...

 

Certainly expect a version of Europe'a Patriot Act to emerge over the next year, when the old continent has its own "September 11" moment, one which will provide the unelected Brussels bureaucrats with even more authoritarian power.

And while we are awaiting for a full blown European version of the Patriot Act, we can say that the second part of the forecast just came true, because this morning The European Commission announced it had adopted a package of measures to strengthen control of firearms across the European Union and meant simply to make it "difficult to acquire firearms."

The package was adopted under the title "European Commission strengthens control of firearms across the EU."

President Juncker said: "The recent terrorist attacks on Europe's people and values were coordinated across borders, showing that we must work together to resist these threats. Today's proposal, prepared jointly by Commissioners El?bieta Bie?kowska and Dimitris Avramopoulos, will help us tackle the threat of weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. We are proposing stricter controls on sale and registration of firearms, and stronger rules to irrevocably deactivate weapons. We will also come forward with an Action Plan in the near future to tackle illicit arms trafficking. Organised criminals accessing and trading military grade firearms in Europe cannot and will not be tolerated."

 

Internal Market and Industry Commissioner El?bieta Bie?kowska and Migration, Home Affairs and Citizenship Commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos added: "The adoption of the firearms package today is proof of the Commission's determination to address the new reality we are confronted with. We need to remove regulatory divergences across the EU by imposing stricter, harmonised EU standards for firearms and ensuring efficient exchange of information between Member States."

As Xinhua summarizes, the measures will help prevent terrorists from accessing weapons in the EU, better track legally held firearms and increase cooperation between member states, it said in a statement. The package of measures includes a revision of the firearms directive to tighten controls on the acquisition and possession of firearms, which need to be approved by the European Parliament and European Council.

An implementing regulation on common minimum standards for deactivation of firearms is included in the package, which sets out common and strict criteria on the way member states must deactivate weapons.

This regulation will be published immediately in the official journal and will enter into force after three months.

Putting this in perspective, the Patriot Act took months - the Commission's crack down on weapons was completed in under 5 days.

And while on average European citizens are less weaponized than the US (except of course for the safest people in Europe, the Swiss, where 30% own guns ), just like that what little armaments can be obtained legally has been drastically reduced. As for whether this "Crack down" by Brussels bureaucrats will put even the tiniest dent in the procurement of weapons by ISIS, we have just one word: Chicago.

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And here is the fact sheet released by the Commission to explain the prompt appearance of this proposal.

What changes to the Firearms Directive is the Commission proposing today?

On 18 November 2015, the Commission tabled proposals to amend the EU Firearms Directive (Directive 91/477/EEC as amended by Directive 2008/51/EC), the main objectives of which are:

To make it more difficult to acquire firearms, including deactivated firearms

  • Stricter conditions for the online acquisition of firearms, to avoid the acquisition of firearms, pieces thereof or munition through the Internet;
  • Stricter rules to ban certain semi-automatic firearms, which move from Category B to Category A and will not, under any circumstances, be allowed to be held by private persons, even if they have been permanently deactivated;
  • The inclusion of blank-firing weapons (e.g. alarm, signaling, life-saving weapons) in the scope of the Directive, because of their potential to be transformed into firearms.
  • Further restrictions to the use and circulation of deactivated firearms. National registries should keep records of deactivated firearms and their owners. Under no circumstances will civilians be authorised to own any of the most dangerous firearms falling under Category A (e.g. a Kalashnikov), which is currently possible if they have been deactivated. The enforcement of the ban is a national responsibility, and Member States have all necessary tools at their disposal including the destruction of illegally held deactivated arms;
  • Collectors, as defined by national law,are currently excluded from the scope of the Directive. The Commission is proposing today to change this, since collectors have been identified as a possible source of traffic of firearms. In the future, collectors will have the possibility to acquire firearms, but subject to the same authorisation/declaration requirements as private persons.
  • Brokers will be brought into the scope of the Directive, since they provide services similar to those of dealers. Member States will have to introduce regulation covering the registration, licensing and/or authorisation of brokers and dealers operating within their territory.

Better traceability of firearms

Tighter rules on marking of firearms to improve the traceability of weapons by making them harder to erase (e.g. by affixing markings on the receiver), extending the obligation to imported firearms and clarifying on which components the marking should be affixed. Member States will have to keep the data until the destruction of the firearm (i.e. not only for 20 years as currently the case).

Stronger cooperation between Member States

Better exchange of information between Member States, for example on any refusal of authorisation decided by another national authority, interconnection of national registers to ensure full European cooperation, and obligations for dealers and brokers to connect their registers to national registers.

What are the common standards on deactivation?

Today's package of measures also includes an Implementing Regulation imposing stringent minimum common guidelines for the deactivation of firearms which will render reactivation much more difficult.

The Firearms Directive specifies that weapons which have been rendered unfit for use are no longer considered firearms but pieces of metal which can move freely within the internal market without authorization/declaration. However, recent experience shows that deactivated arms can be illegally reactivated by using pieces from other deactivated arms, home-made pieces or pieces acquired via the Internet. The fact that there is no harmonised way to deactivate weapons across the EU increases the security risk.

To solve this problem, the Commission has prepared a Regulation that sets out common, strict, harmonised criteria on how Member States must deactivate weapons so they are rendered unfit to use. This is complemented by the ban on the possession of Category A firearms – even when they are deactivated. The Implementing Regulation is based on the criteria for deactivation developed by the Permanent International Commission for the Proof of Small Arms (the CIP).

The Commission has been negotiating this Implementing Regulation with Member States since April 2015 in the context of the comitology procedure, with discussions intensifying in the last few weeks. The draft text sent to Member States on Friday 13 November was adopted in committee on 18 November, following which the College adopted the implementing act on the same day.

What is the Commission doing to curb illegal trafficking of weapons and explosives?

In addition to the adoption of these stricter rules and standards today, the Commission also announced new plans to develop an action plan against the illegal trafficking of weapons and explosives. Issues to be tackled in this future action plan will include:

  • The illegal purchase of weapons on the black market;
  • The control of illegal weapons and explosives in the internal market and especially their entry/import into the single market (especially from the Balkan countries or ex-war zones);
  • The fight against organised crime.

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And always remember, they are from the (unelected) governmentm, and they are not only here to help you, but make your life safer.

 

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Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:10 | 6810281 Duc888
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yea, that'll work.

 

hahahahahahahahaha

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:15 | 6810298 Ignatius
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All the more reason that the false flags and false narratives need to be exposed and the spell broken, otherwise we get stuck with heavey, unfettered promotion of unwise policies.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:19 | 6810328 Pinto Currency
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The best way to stop terrorism is to take away guns from law abiding citizens.

Thank goodness for unelected EU representatives.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:25 | 6810367 Ignatius
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Really takes advantage of the happy fact that normal people don't want to shoot other people, though the 'solution' promoted is hopelessly naive.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:35 | 6810410 Pairadimes
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This will definitely keep Syrian Refujihadees from stopping by the corner gun store for their full auto AK47s.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:45 | 6810488 mkkby
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So all of europe will be a gun free zone.  Smart thinking.  Now the sheeple can be abused by their ruling class with no way to fight back.

The terrorists can be thanked for this.  Couldn't have worked out better if it had been planned.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:51 | 6810524 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Since most White European men are disarmed already, this can only help to convince some how despicable their leaders have become.

Hey European men... it's time to grow a pair and protect your women, because your bureaucrats have proven themselves to be incapable of protecting them. Or not... it's your loss.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:14 | 6810664 WTFMOFO
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Fuck, they might as well make it harder to get suicide vests while they are it.  Fucking idiots.

 

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:41 | 6810829 Tonald J Drump
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coming to USSA if Hitlery gets in ....  #TRUMP2016

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:44 | 6810852 new game
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lolololololol, still lolololooloolllolllollolo,ing...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 22:00 | 6811761 Baa baa
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Indeed...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:11 | 6810988 A Nanny Moose
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Why not ban cans of soda, while they are at it?

Just when you thought they'd achieved Full Retard, all new levels of full retarder surface.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:53 | 6810541 PT
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Aust govt banned guns twice.  Then they sent us to war twice.  Left me thinking, do they want us to know how to use guns or not?  Still get shootings in the news every three weeks or so, and then there was that guy in Sydney - you know, the one where the TV stations shut down every other story for the entire day so they could concentrate on one nutter ... who, maybe he wasn't listening when the govt told him he wasn't allowed to have a gun anymore.

We already had "anti-gun" laws, but some fuckwit thought we didn't have enuff.  They like it when the problem doesn't go away.  Then they can use the same excuse to provide infinite more "solutions" ...

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 04:00 | 6812327 SixIsNinE
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that's "victim disarmament zone"  -  h/t AJ

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:55 | 6810511 ACP
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Everyone knows the solution is just to re-ban guns. And when crime goes up, re-ban them again.

Rinse and repeat until you have North Korea.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:50 | 6811137 Colonel Klink
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Or EU genocide, like Germany, Cambodia, China, or any other place who banned citizens from having guns.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 21:27 | 6811646 Crash Overide
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No matter the law, bad guys always seem to get guns...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:37 | 6810411 The Juggernaut
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What does Nigel Farage think of all this?

 

We must stop the Saudi funding of extremist ideology in our country. amp.twimg.com/v/610ee7d8-…

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:40 | 6810442 Vatican_cameo
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Transform all of Europe into a "Gun-Free Zone".  That will surely solve the problem.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 19:59 | 6811398 lincolnsteffens
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Easy as pie. No problem with posting the military along the borders of the EU. How many thousands of miles is that?

No one would ever think of violating the law by sneaking weapons into a gun free Euro Zone. Surly even terrorists and other criminal gangs have more respect for the law than to do something so impolite.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:42 | 6810464 froze25
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Nigel uses logic and reason, hence they ignored him and came up with this BS.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:30 | 6810381 Normalcy Bias
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Yep, MILLIONS of immigrants cannot be stopped from sneaking into the E.U., but weapons, drugs, etc. can be stopped.

The same argument holds true for the U.S..

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:44 | 6810475 froze25
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What was that you say?  I was too busy feeding my Unicorn some magic beans while my leprechaun was playing his harp.  Did I mention that this was all done under a rainbow.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 21:30 | 6811657 Crash Overide
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You have a unicorn AND a leprechaun?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 04:07 | 6812330 SixIsNinE
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you haven't sampled from his bong, eh?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 14:40 | 6821630 fockewulf190
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No, it´s white privilage.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 19:54 | 6811387 Urban Redneck
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As far as I am aware they haven't even published the trace results of the firearms used in Paris.  If they had been purchased legally, the gun grabbers would touting that fact on State-sponsored TV 24/7.  Therefore, it is relatively safe to presume NOT ONE firearm used in Paris was acquired legally and the regulations will have ZERO impact with respect to reducing future attacks.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 21:56 | 6811745 Baa baa
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Probably part of the "Fast and Furious" escapade.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 01:22 | 6812174 Kirk2NCC1701
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All you need to know, is that Jihadists/ISIS/DAESH use US-made AR's when fighting in Iraq an Syria, but when abroad, they prefer Russian-made Khalashnikov AR's.

"They are the most interesting terrorists in the world", you might say.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:26 | 6810329 Latina Lover
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Following in the great tradition of Hitler, Mao and other leaders that give our criminal Elites an erection, the Act should be renamed  to read:  Protection of Banksters against Citizens Act.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:24 | 6810722 Blackfox
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Hitler only band guns from the communists and actually promoted gun use and lowered the age Germans could use them. Stop sounding like you have been edJEWcated man!

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/stop_talking_about_hitler/

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:37 | 6810804 css1971
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Would you like me to post the complete (translated) text of the law which removed all dangerous weapons from the hands of the target group before they decided to murder them on a factory scale? No?

Here it is anyway:

Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons

11 November 1938

With a basis in § 31 of the Weapons Law of 18 March 1928 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 265), Article III of the Law on the Reunification of Austria with Germany of 13 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 237), and § 9 of the Fuhrer and Chancellor's decree on the administration of the Sudeten-German districts of 1 October 1928 (Reichsgesetzblatt 1, p. 1331 ) are the following ordered:

§ 1

Jews (§ 5 of the First Regulations of the German Citizenship Law of 14 November 1935, Reichsgesetzblatt 1, p. 1332) are prohibited from acquiring. Possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons. Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.

§ 2

Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.

§ 3

The Minister of the Interior may make exceptions to the Prohibition in § 1 for Jews who are foreign nationals. He can entrust other authorities with this power.

§ 4

Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions of § 1 will be punished with imprisonment and a fine. In especially severe cases of deliberate violations, the punishment is imprisonment in a penitentiary for up to five years.

§ 5

For the implementation if this regulation, the Minister of the Interior waives the necessary legal and administrative provisions.

§ 6

This regulation is valid in the state of Austria and in the Sudeten-German districts.

Berlin, 11 November 1938

Minister of the Interior

Frick

 

Hitler confiscated the weapons before committing genocide. It's just how things are done.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:15 | 6811010 A Nanny Moose
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Thank you!!!

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:23 | 6811039 Blackfox
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You believe in the Holoahoax? there was no Genocide - try reading a book on it and doing some Google as well.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Six-Million-Fact-Fiction/dp/1499174926

You know how they lied to you about Iraq?

and how they lied about Syria?

and How thety lied about Libya

and how they lied about Isis

guess what, they lied about WW2 too.

 

If you are here you should be smarter then the average Joe yes?

Start with this - it is what got me going Wtf...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

 

And as for banning Jews from guns, that's because communism was Jewish run.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-je...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc    -  see above
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

 

also the Gas chambers was built in 1947 - admitted by Dr Piper the head curator of Auschwitz museum - interveiw by a Jew as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQjNs-Ght8s

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:13 | 6811438 lincolnsteffens
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After the Germans rolled into Austria the citizens were disarmed by the same one sided crime reporting about guns  as is now used in the US.  First to help control the "rising" gun murder rate, the Germans convinced and demanded the Austrians register their guns. Once the guns were registered, constant news media reports of gun crime continued. Eventually the people were ordered to hand in their weapons or face execution.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 21:53 | 6811734 Baa baa
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Salon???!!!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 04:10 | 6812332 SixIsNinE
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FATCAT is in place

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:19 | 6810338 MalteseFalcon
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Because terrorists use legal guns, right?

Totally predictable. 

These guys think fascism and a police state will save them.

Good luck

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:48 | 6810875 new game
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to the point post(wish/think/hope/pray/act)

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:22 | 6810350 Theosebes Goodfellow
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And this will stop exactly ZERO people from driving weapons in from Turkey/Russia/Ukraine/etc. Leave it to the socialists to think that this is going to make anyone safer. Gun laws are for people who obey the laws. People intent on mayhem will ALWAYS be able to find/acquire firearms.

So long, Europe. You are now complete slaves. You may as well as convert to Islam now, for you have no means to fight back. Bend over, stick your heads between your legs and kiss your collective asses goodbye.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:53 | 6810495 froze25
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Euro males have had their testicles removed well before this happened.  Make sure you thank a "progressive" today for all the hell, excuse me support they have given us over the last 100 years.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:18 | 6811449 lincolnsteffens
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The US is not far behind the Europeans. There is a large segment of the population that is rabidly bent on confiscation. These poor people have been terrorized by the media and are hysterical at the thought of anyone but "authorities" having guns. It is a well engineered mind capturing program based on historical examples of success.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 10:22 | 6817473 AllMightyDollar
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I saw a movie where only the government had firearms ...... It was called "Schindler's List"

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:13 | 6810301 Bastiat
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It will work to disarm what few Europeans are armed and stop many who wish they were.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:17 | 6810325 Hype Alert
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Didn't mass graves originate in Europe?  You would think they knew better by now.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:35 | 6810409 Hype Alert
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Don't mean to sound cold, but if you're going to bury a lot of people, the first thing you do is disarm them.  Most mass murderer/suicide jobs tend to rush to the suicide step at the first sign of armed resistence.  That's just a fact the authorities and media intentionally leave out.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:19 | 6811452 lincolnsteffens
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Austrians have cleaned out the gun shops as reported recently on ZH

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:59 | 6810554 hannah
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i have heard the audio from the attacks and these guys had fully automatic weapons. how does banning semi-auto do anything related to isis/terrorists...?........and gun collectors are trafficers? that is bullshit because there isnt 'trafficing'. isis just brings in guns they have (given to them by obama) locals arent buying guns in a back alley....

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:13 | 6810283 Latina Lover
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Yeah, that will stop ISIS. Now that they cannot buy weapons legally, as good citizens, they will abide by the law, LOL./sarc off.

If the citizens were armed, you can be damn certain that the death toll would have been much lower. Could you imagine ISIS trying to replay Paris in Houston?

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:15 | 6810314 nuubee
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Prepare for a new flood of right-leaning Europeans into the U.S. as refugees... I would welcome them.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:20 | 6810335 Normalcy Bias
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...As would I, but the Govt won't.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:24 | 6810361 BlindMonkey
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I would suspect they are heading to Moscow.  You can carry weapons for self-defense in Russia now.  A 13% flat tax rate looks rather attractive too.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 12:19 | 6827509 Gavrikon
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Got a link?  Last I read, Russia allowed one to own only shotguns and rifles, no handguns.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 19:18 | 6829097 BlindMonkey
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Here is the link.  It includes pistols and revolvers according to the story.  I know they have a VERY active IPSC community that is involved in sport shooting race guns.  I am not sure how those are licensed but they certainly do have them.  

 

https://www.rt.com/news/206703-russia-guns-self-defense/

I am rather fond of these pics....:)

http://www.practical-shooting.ru/shooters/short-interview/exclusive-inte...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:56 | 6810555 NoTTD
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As would I, but I don't think all the "right-leaning" people in Europe put together could be termed a "flood".  Maybe a welcome trickle.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:06 | 6810620 Savyindallas
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Yeah, we could sure use them. The problem is they are no better off here - maybe they will move to Russia. Much better environment for white Christian folks  -although there aren't many Christians left in Europe  -just hedonist pagans, Jews and Muslims. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:35 | 6810782 tarabel
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I wouldn't. A right-leaning European is the same as a left sector American democrat.

I've seen the same thing happen here in Colorado. All the "good" Californians fled out here and now we've got a bunch of assholes running the state. It's always the same thing: You know, if we just had a law like the one we had back home...

You know, in the former paradise we turned into a hell hole and fled from when the mob finally made it to our own personal space.

To the Syrians -- go back and fight.

To the Europeans -- go back and fight.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 19:39 | 6811322 Calmyourself
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Absolutely, you made your bed Euro's now start breeding like rabbits and fight back.  First against the pols then the invaders they've invited in to dilute your culture so the elites have PERMANENT control.  Once the elites think they have the tide on their side here comes the mother of all currency collapses and guess what the new electronic currency is already good to go...  Some hard core suffering for the proles then its rolled out to loud prole applause...

 

MARK MY WORDS

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 04:20 | 6812344 SixIsNinE
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because of this :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxLasmEYNR4

TATE Murders ; the Monsters Dupe Us Again

California was the Promised Land. 

.goober Pentagram death cult knew they were licked so they pulled out all the stops to kill and maim the youth movement led by rock n roll and LSD.  The Murder of JFK and then MLK Jr. and RFK .... staging the Manson event right before Woodstock was part of the intention to cripple the Turned ON Generation.  They made the Manson trial a theatrical spectacle which went on and on and on and on ..... just like 911 911 911 911 911 911 ...

then we learn the Patty Hearst kidnapping was a staged event too ...

They own/control the media for a reason folks.  Turn OFF the TV

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:19 | 6810336 KnuckleDragger-X
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The weapons used were already illegal in the EU and this will have zero effect. I expect RPG's before much longer and won't that be special.....

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:27 | 6812444 Sivad UK
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Sadly the exact same thing would have happened in Houston - or Dallas, Baton Rouge, Jackson or Mobile. Because people don't carry in night clubs, handguns aren't effective against suicide vests and inner city gangs prove the effectivness of drive by shootings nightly - even when engaging with other armed gangs. Just ask Biggy Smalls or Tupac.

An armed citizenry is essential to fight tyrrany but pretty useless when dealing with these animals.

Two totally seperate issues...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:13 | 6810286 Mercury
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As if you could go into Le Marche de Mur last week and but a pump shotgun off the rack.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:13 | 6810300 RacerX
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Well obviously they need to strengthen their gun laws. /sarc

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:32 | 6810739 InspectorBird
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Under no circumstances will civilians be authorised to own any of the most dangerous firearms falling under Category A (e.g. a Kalashnikov), which is currently possible if they have been deactivated.

 

I dont know... i live in EU and in my country its perfectly legal to own a fully functional semi-auto Kalashnikov, AR-15 or any other rifle for that matter (with a permit, and the permit is not unreasonably hard to obtain, you cant have criminal records, DUI-s, etc). I could even legally carry an AK, provided that i can conceal it :) open carry is not allowed.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:13 | 6810297 Perimetr
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Anyone consider the possibility that it might be useful for people to have a firearm to defend themselves with?  Or is it better to bring a knife to a gunfight?

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:20 | 6810339 Kirk2NCC1701
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Knives, Axes and Pitchforks are also illegal, if used as weapons.

Thus, "you'd best risk getting shot by terrorists, than risk prosecution for illegal use of Household Items" is the message.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:38 | 6810810 Macon Richardson
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Yes, it's the singer not the song.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:30 | 6810389 Anopheles
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You are not allowed to defend yourself.    

There are police and video camers to do that.... /s

 

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:36 | 6810415 Normalcy Bias
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NO, slave! You must SHELTER IN PLACE with your scissors and duct tape until the First Responders arrive, and then hope they don't shoot you because you're holding scissors.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 04:28 | 6812351 SixIsNinE
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remember Umquaa  -  the bravery is exemplified :from CNN :

   .....   'We called ... our loved ones'

The shooting appears to have started in one building, before the gunman moved to another building. Those killed and wounded were found in at least two classrooms.

Throughout the buildings, students dropped to the ground, huddling behind backpacks and chairs, or underneath tables.

Miles away, parents waited and watched ambulances taking victims away."

see, no scissors needed. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:42 | 6810461 tarabel
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Knives!

(head slap)

We forgot the friggin knives.

Everybody back into the conference room, stat.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:03 | 6810605 PT
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I'm still waiting for the as(h)leeple to decide that if guns are banned to everyone else, then obviously only govt has guns to distribute so all criminal guns must come from govt.  Hey, why not?  Sounds like a direct line of logic to me.  Maybe then they'll want to ban govt.  No?  (Yep, fantasy land stuff again ...)

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:14 | 6810304 pound the vix
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I didn't see where it was reported that the terrorist purchased their AK-47's at the local gun store

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:22 | 6810353 Thisisbullishright
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Got them from the local CIA store...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:37 | 6810422 Normalcy Bias
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Isn't that where they bought the reported "rocket launcher?"

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:42 | 6810840 trader1
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have bitcoins and a TOR browser?

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 01:38 | 6812201 Kirk2NCC1701
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That's the point: if they had used US-made AR's (like they do in Iraq and Syria), they risk having them traced.

But, by using Russian-made AR's, it is easier to wipe that trail.

So devious and diabolical, that even an intelligence agency could think of it, to retain "Plausible Deniability" as to its involvement.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:15 | 6810311 Bastiat
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"Issues to be tackled in this future action plan will include:"

What follows is a list of the real problems that they have no answer for.  But hey, lets disarm the public first. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:15 | 6810312 rejected
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Well of course they don't want anyone shooting back!

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:39 | 6810818 Macon Richardson
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Of course not! Someone might get hurt.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:15 | 6810313 Bill of Rights
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Lol ya so only the bad guys ( you know the Government ) will have guns....Fuck you.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:17 | 6810315 Normalcy Bias
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...Because the 'Terrorists' follow the law.

Bathhouse Barry has something like this cooking for the U.S. as well, you can bet on it.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:16 | 6810317 Caveman93
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Make sure you place the "Gun Free Zone" signs up in Arabic. Wouldn't want them to break any laws and such. What a bunch of ignorant asshats. They all deserve what's coming. Complete anal rape and murder of their Union. This will make IS work easy as pie.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 01:58 | 6812221 Kirk2NCC1701
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In that case, "If you want to keep your guns, you can keep your guns" - Obama.

You'll either have to pay a Gun Tax (that promotes Safety and compensates victims), or you can become a Jihadist. Odds are, you might be labeled as one on FB anyway.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:17 | 6810318 Hongcha
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Gentlemen, there is only one thing to do - buy what you can as soon as you can.  Include ammunition - Chalky or Billary, his certain successor, may make a move against ammunition / powder first.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:22 | 6810319 coast
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molon labe..........

p.s.  For those who like to read, there is a book called "molon labe" by author "Boston T. Party".....its on amazon for about 12 bucks. this book will change you and your path for life.  It is a must read. It will change many of the thoughts you already have cuddled, so beware.  After reading the book, you will be interested in his other books, The guy is beyond genius...major stuff, please try to read it, I promise you wont regret it.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:17 | 6810324 Racer
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Okaaaaaay, so I will be able to stop a gunman with a piece of legislation......

I see......

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:17 | 6810327 SmallerGovNow2
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Muther fucking Euro CUNTS...  Where's I96 when you need him...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:18 | 6810331 topshelfstuff
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though its all an important view, please view at least first 5 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChT4VDm_n8M

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:38 | 6810431 o r c k
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I take it UFO's were somehow involved ?

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:21 | 6810347 Thisisbullishright
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What could possibly go wrong-er?

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:23 | 6810355 o r c k
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What about the recent article saying Europeans were desperately buying guns now?  Oh, I see.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:25 | 6810360 RadioFlyer
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All of this legislation just happens to be stacked on the shelf ready for use.  How convenient. 

Just like the US Patriot Act that changed 15 laws and encroached on the Bill of Rights.  Just happened to be all written up and ready to go.  Oooh la la Oui oui!

 

Oh look!  How convenient, a [insert crisis here] just happened just like we thought it would.  Grab the documents, we need to pass them Christmas Eve...Thanksgiving....

 

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:27 | 6810363 SillySalesmanQu...
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It's Dudley DoWrong Juncker, off on his pale horse, to save the Euro's from those dastardly terrists, by disarming well intentioned serfs, just trying to defend themselves. WABOB

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:33 | 6810373 10mm
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Mass genocide by their fake leaders.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:26 | 6810376 coast
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give me liberty or give me death...its time for you to read this again..  read it now....thx.

http://www.barefootsworld.net/libertyordeath.html.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:27 | 6810378 Kirk2NCC1701
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The Czech President Milos Zeman is asking publicly:

"Why are these young Syrian men deserting their country, instead of defending it against outsiders? Especially if they leave their women and children behind in Syria and in Turkish refugee camps. Why?"

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:36 | 6810418 css1971
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Because they don't want to stand unarmed up against CIA armed and trained nutcases?

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:27 | 6810380 surfer433
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It is paramount that the citizens be prevented from defending themselves.

 

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:28 | 6810383 Rip van Wrinkle
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You know the real problem? 90% plus of the dumbed down twats in Europe will agree with it.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:22 | 6811045 Sivad UK
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Rip I agree with you in principle. Let's be honest though. If these guys would have hit the Georgia Dome, half of Buckhead and some Atlanta arena at the same time the results would have been the same.

Even us good old boys don't carry in Cracker Barrels and country bars...

These are two diff issues... Sadly...

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:30 | 6810388 Peter Pan
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So they will try and eventually ban guns, but what about bombs?

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:35 | 6810390 HenryHall
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>> The control of illegal weapons and explosives in the internal market and especially their entry/import into the single market (especially from the Balkan countries or ex-war zones);

 

Yeah, admit Ukraine to the EU. Or give the ukroppen visa-free travel. That will do it.

Truth be known, it is likely that those AKs came from Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania where they were once commonplace.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:31 | 6810395 kiwimail
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Why don't they just pass a law making it illegal for terrorists to shoot people?

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:32 | 6810396 agstacks
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Does this mean it will be more difficult for ISIS to receive their air packages of ammo, Aks, and TNT? 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:32 | 6810398 LukeWorm
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"The commenters don't read the article, the writers don't read the comments, and no one clicks on the ads."

https://twitter.com/ftrain/status/193396715779395584

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:34 | 6810401 Mr. Schmilkies
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As usual, governments doing the opposite of what is necessary.  THey should give a weapon to all law-abiding citizens and gun training and let them carry them around town. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:34 | 6810404 WillyGroper
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Long 3D printers & flame throwers.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:34 | 6810405 css1971
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It's already illegal to buy and sell firearms in most of the EU with various permits. I'm pretty sure these weren't legal guns that were used.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:34 | 6810407 Brit_Abroad
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I forsee many European type boating accidents

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:37 | 6810427 Jethro
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No one should obey unjust laws.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:37 | 6810428 Jack Burton
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A disarmed populace makes "the state" and "terrorists' all powerful entities that no man can stand up to and defend his liberty or his life. We enter the new dark age, and god help us now that we have no guns left in honest hands.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:56 | 6810557 Savyindallas
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But guns don't kill-people do. people are the problem. Once we get rid of the guns, we can get rid of the people. Most people are useless eaters anyway. They contribute to global warming. The elites are replacing them with robots anyway. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:38 | 6810430 seek
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Meanwhile, people are making stuff like this in their garages there.

Full auto pistol with a suppressor. That's a crude one, found in Russia just a few days ago.

This one isn't so crude, and has popped up all over Europe and in the US as well.

So yeah, this crackdown is going to work just fine! /s

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:40 | 6810443 Loucleve
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THEY DIDNT BUY THEIR AK47'S IN EUROPE.

THEY USED THE NONEXISTENT BORDER CONTROLS TO SHIP THEM IN.

TERRORISTS WILL CONTINUE TO SHIP THEM IN.

THE POPULACE WILL BE UNARMED.  BRILLIANT.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:09 | 6810633 HenryHall
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The Ukraine is in Europe. There are a bazillion AK47s in the Ukraine.

Not to mention the Baltics.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:36 | 6811497 Baa baa
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Can I have one?

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:53 | 6810899 HopefulCynical
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THE POPULACE WILL BE UNARMED. BRILLIANT.

For the banksters, it is. All by design...

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 02:23 | 6812245 Kirk2NCC1701
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You too are missing the bigger point:

Why bother with Russia AR's, when Americans air drop theirs for free, and Iraqi soldiers drop them on the ground at the sight of ISIS (we were told).

A: 1. Traceability and 2. Bad PR for US, if they used a Noveske or Budhmaster AR.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:44 | 6810468 css1971
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Google "P. A. Luty" and you can download plans for an SMG made from common off the shelf DIY store parts.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:39 | 6810437 Ms No
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Everybody turn in your guns, Syrian ISIS hidden among the refugees is in need as Russia bombed the shit out of their stockpiles as they were on their way out.  There is state funded blood shed being commited everywhere against unarmed people and the only way to stop it is to disarm more innocent people.  We must give up freedom to be safe.

Just wait until you see how safe having no freedoms is.  Your going to love it.   

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:52 | 6810531 Savyindallas
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If innocent, law abiding citizens are raped, pillaged and killed in the cause of disarmament of the population  - they are martyrs-- they died for their country and a worthy cause. Thier are wonderful social services available to women who are raped  -rape counselling and tax payer funded abortion. The relatives of the dead can take comfort in knowing their loved ones died for a worthy cause. Once the citizens are disarmed, we can then focus all our efforts on disraming the criminals and terrorists. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:32 | 6810760 Ms No
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I can see that mentality existing.  I think they should put a little more effort into the socialist aspect of it though.  The social services provided to disarmament/civil war rape victims should be given rape counselling by a priest, tax payer funded abortion and cookies. 

They might also provide a T-shirt "I survived rape and pillage... Long live the State", or "I did my duty, I was a first rung comfort woman".  We all have to do our part.

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:40 | 6810441 GoldenDonuts
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Phew  what a relief.   Terrorists and criminals will immediately stop aquiring guns illegally. 

 

What a bunch of fucking idiots.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:46 | 6810492 Savyindallas
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We need a massive multibillion dollar media public information campaign to educate the criminals and terrorists that aquiring guns will be illegal. Let them kow that they could be possibly hurt and injured as a result of their improper possession and/or use of guns. Maybe threaten to cut off some of their welfare benefits. That should do the trick. 

The main thing is that law abiding citizens need to be disarmed and prevented from defending themselves. That's the job of the police. Law abiding citizens possessing and/or using firearms can only make things worse. Trust the government. They know what they are doing. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:52 | 6810530 NoTTD
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Remember:  When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:26 | 6810449 css1971
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They're aware you can go to any DIY store and buy the bits to make a submachine gun? No?

 

This is how you make it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHAO8oxwioU

 

And this is what it shoots like after being banned in Australia...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv33pCUkLRM

 

And anyone can download the plans and BOM here:

http://thehomegunsmith.com/

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:41 | 6810450 Jethro
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Truly, only Nationalism will save Europe now

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:45 | 6810482 Jack Burton
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Sweden has a party that puts the Swedish native above the hords of migrants. SD. I pray for their leaders and for the people to vote them into power, before the leftists can ban the party for good under anti terror laws. Remember, Sweden's leftists do not believe people have the right to vote for a Swedes first party!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 02:41 | 6812269 Kirk2NCC1701
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Lemme guess... The Ragnar Lothbrok Party?

I hope they punish terrorism and Treason with the Blood Eagle.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:02 | 6810565 agent default
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The whole point of this exercise is to do away with nationalist parties, even with the use of force if they have to.  And it's not just he guns they are after.  There is already talk in Europe about how ISIS is funded with not so subtle hints about physical cash payments.  So now you know what the next step will be.  Also all the independence movements in Europe.  They are next under the pretext of domestic safety.  Paris was operation Fall Weiss.  Nothing else.

 

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:41 | 6810451 surf0766
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Progressive / marxist shit for brains

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:41 | 6810455 Lost in translation
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Coming here soon.

Buy what you like while you still can...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:41 | 6810456 Jack Burton
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Again the khazar-illuminati disguised as benefactors of humanity, are set out to promulgate the equality, liberty and fraternity delusion step into reigns of terror and then to new world orders each time giving them more power and control. Zion remains untouched by terror, as Muslims and Christians die like flies, directed by our zionist masters. We know where the heart of terror is, we haven't the guts to take that shit hole out!

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:52 | 6810533 coast
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I love you Jack.. khazarian and rothchild zionists...you have learned well grasshopper...excuse the biblical scripture, but in the bible, satan takes Jesus to the top of the mountains...Satan showed Jesus all the kingdoms....Satan told Jesus, "all the kingdoms will be yours if you bow down and worship me".

Jesus said "NO" but the Rothchilds said "pick me pick me!!!" 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 19:51 | 6811374 Skip
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Jack,

Just as coast said, love you man!
Keep telling the truth...

To understand how this happened to America, Europe and Australia it is all explained here:
Review of 'The Culture of Critique'
Preface to the First Paperback Edition PDF
Preface to the First Paperback Edition HTML

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:41 | 6810458 Shadow1275
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Ugh, another ten steps backward into feudalism. Thanks Leftists

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:44 | 6810471 BubbaJones
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I'm sure the radical islamist will follow that as well. We live in a gilded age.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:44 | 6810474 giggler321
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People who want to do wrong will not be getting stuff from the right places

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:47 | 6810483 gaoptimize
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This sounds like an Onion story.  The left, and their narrative, has such a tight control over Europe, that it almost seems hopeless.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:53 | 6810489 agent default
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So the rights of European citizens are determined by what ISIS might and might not do.  If this is not a victory for ISIS I don't know what is.  The EU has handed the Europeans over to the terrorists, there is no other way of putting it.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:46 | 6810494 BigRedRider
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"...Stricter rules to ban certain semi-automatic firearms, which move from Category B to Category A..."

 

Isn't Catagory A the same catagory used to classify Marri-huanna????

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:47 | 6810500 Chuckster
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This should be titled: "The Crackpots begin"

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:49 | 6810514 Lendo
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These people have never played Fallout before.  You can make a gun from anything. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:49 | 6810517 roadhazard
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It's Belgium that's the gun running capital of Europe.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:41 | 6810831 trader1
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and (not) coincidentally headquarters of the EU...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:50 | 6810519 NoTTD
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Headline reflecting actual reality: Europe Enacts Strict Rules Making It Difficult for Law Abiding Christians and Jews to Acquire Firearms.  

 

Subhead:  Cheers Resound in French Banlieues, Moleenbeek, Rotherham. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:50 | 6810522 Heavenlysunshine
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Just as the demonizationof of the chosen ones, by the national socialists, was a prelude to WW2 in the last century.....the demonization of the muslims, by the west in this century, may lead to a third major cataclysm. Is that what TPTB have planned for us ?

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:51 | 6810528 All Out Of Bubblegum
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"No Guns For Negroes" - we're all negroes now:

 

http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ngn-download-view.htm

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:52 | 6810529 khakuda
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Well intentioned, but will only serve to keep single shot guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens who cannot now protect themselves from the crazies with automatic weapons.

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