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The Crackdown Begins: Europe Just Passed "Strict Controls To Make It Difficult To Acquire Firearms"

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Back on September 11, Zero Hedge predicted the events which unfolded in Paris last Friday (and the resulting aftermath) with uncanny accuracy. Specifically, we said that "as the need to ratchet up the fear factor grows, expect more such reports of asylum seekers who have penetrated deep inside Europe, and whose intentions are to terrorize the public. Expect a few explosions thrown in for good effect" and we added that "since everyone knows by now "not to let a crisis go to waste" the one thing Europe needs is a visceral, tangible crisis, ideally with chilling explosions and innocent casualties. We expect one will be provided on short notice."

It was two months later.

But it was the "fine print" forecast that was most troubling.

... the second key role of ISIS is also starting to emerge: the terrorist bogeyman that ravages Europe and scares the living daylight out of people who beg the government to implement an even more strict government apparatus in order to protect them from refugees ISIS terrorists.

...

 

Certainly expect a version of Europe'a Patriot Act to emerge over the next year, when the old continent has its own "September 11" moment, one which will provide the unelected Brussels bureaucrats with even more authoritarian power.

And while we are awaiting for a full blown European version of the Patriot Act, we can say that the second part of the forecast just came true, because this morning The European Commission announced it had adopted a package of measures to strengthen control of firearms across the European Union and meant simply to make it "difficult to acquire firearms."

The package was adopted under the title "European Commission strengthens control of firearms across the EU."

President Juncker said: "The recent terrorist attacks on Europe's people and values were coordinated across borders, showing that we must work together to resist these threats. Today's proposal, prepared jointly by Commissioners El?bieta Bie?kowska and Dimitris Avramopoulos, will help us tackle the threat of weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. We are proposing stricter controls on sale and registration of firearms, and stronger rules to irrevocably deactivate weapons. We will also come forward with an Action Plan in the near future to tackle illicit arms trafficking. Organised criminals accessing and trading military grade firearms in Europe cannot and will not be tolerated."

 

Internal Market and Industry Commissioner El?bieta Bie?kowska and Migration, Home Affairs and Citizenship Commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos added: "The adoption of the firearms package today is proof of the Commission's determination to address the new reality we are confronted with. We need to remove regulatory divergences across the EU by imposing stricter, harmonised EU standards for firearms and ensuring efficient exchange of information between Member States."

As Xinhua summarizes, the measures will help prevent terrorists from accessing weapons in the EU, better track legally held firearms and increase cooperation between member states, it said in a statement. The package of measures includes a revision of the firearms directive to tighten controls on the acquisition and possession of firearms, which need to be approved by the European Parliament and European Council.

An implementing regulation on common minimum standards for deactivation of firearms is included in the package, which sets out common and strict criteria on the way member states must deactivate weapons.

This regulation will be published immediately in the official journal and will enter into force after three months.

Putting this in perspective, the Patriot Act took months - the Commission's crack down on weapons was completed in under 5 days.

And while on average European citizens are less weaponized than the US (except of course for the safest people in Europe, the Swiss, where 30% own guns ), just like that what little armaments can be obtained legally has been drastically reduced. As for whether this "Crack down" by Brussels bureaucrats will put even the tiniest dent in the procurement of weapons by ISIS, we have just one word: Chicago.

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And here is the fact sheet released by the Commission to explain the prompt appearance of this proposal.

What changes to the Firearms Directive is the Commission proposing today?

On 18 November 2015, the Commission tabled proposals to amend the EU Firearms Directive (Directive 91/477/EEC as amended by Directive 2008/51/EC), the main objectives of which are:

To make it more difficult to acquire firearms, including deactivated firearms

  • Stricter conditions for the online acquisition of firearms, to avoid the acquisition of firearms, pieces thereof or munition through the Internet;
  • Stricter rules to ban certain semi-automatic firearms, which move from Category B to Category A and will not, under any circumstances, be allowed to be held by private persons, even if they have been permanently deactivated;
  • The inclusion of blank-firing weapons (e.g. alarm, signaling, life-saving weapons) in the scope of the Directive, because of their potential to be transformed into firearms.
  • Further restrictions to the use and circulation of deactivated firearms. National registries should keep records of deactivated firearms and their owners. Under no circumstances will civilians be authorised to own any of the most dangerous firearms falling under Category A (e.g. a Kalashnikov), which is currently possible if they have been deactivated. The enforcement of the ban is a national responsibility, and Member States have all necessary tools at their disposal including the destruction of illegally held deactivated arms;
  • Collectors, as defined by national law,are currently excluded from the scope of the Directive. The Commission is proposing today to change this, since collectors have been identified as a possible source of traffic of firearms. In the future, collectors will have the possibility to acquire firearms, but subject to the same authorisation/declaration requirements as private persons.
  • Brokers will be brought into the scope of the Directive, since they provide services similar to those of dealers. Member States will have to introduce regulation covering the registration, licensing and/or authorisation of brokers and dealers operating within their territory.

Better traceability of firearms

Tighter rules on marking of firearms to improve the traceability of weapons by making them harder to erase (e.g. by affixing markings on the receiver), extending the obligation to imported firearms and clarifying on which components the marking should be affixed. Member States will have to keep the data until the destruction of the firearm (i.e. not only for 20 years as currently the case).

Stronger cooperation between Member States

Better exchange of information between Member States, for example on any refusal of authorisation decided by another national authority, interconnection of national registers to ensure full European cooperation, and obligations for dealers and brokers to connect their registers to national registers.

What are the common standards on deactivation?

Today's package of measures also includes an Implementing Regulation imposing stringent minimum common guidelines for the deactivation of firearms which will render reactivation much more difficult.

The Firearms Directive specifies that weapons which have been rendered unfit for use are no longer considered firearms but pieces of metal which can move freely within the internal market without authorization/declaration. However, recent experience shows that deactivated arms can be illegally reactivated by using pieces from other deactivated arms, home-made pieces or pieces acquired via the Internet. The fact that there is no harmonised way to deactivate weapons across the EU increases the security risk.

To solve this problem, the Commission has prepared a Regulation that sets out common, strict, harmonised criteria on how Member States must deactivate weapons so they are rendered unfit to use. This is complemented by the ban on the possession of Category A firearms – even when they are deactivated. The Implementing Regulation is based on the criteria for deactivation developed by the Permanent International Commission for the Proof of Small Arms (the CIP).

The Commission has been negotiating this Implementing Regulation with Member States since April 2015 in the context of the comitology procedure, with discussions intensifying in the last few weeks. The draft text sent to Member States on Friday 13 November was adopted in committee on 18 November, following which the College adopted the implementing act on the same day.

What is the Commission doing to curb illegal trafficking of weapons and explosives?

In addition to the adoption of these stricter rules and standards today, the Commission also announced new plans to develop an action plan against the illegal trafficking of weapons and explosives. Issues to be tackled in this future action plan will include:

  • The illegal purchase of weapons on the black market;
  • The control of illegal weapons and explosives in the internal market and especially their entry/import into the single market (especially from the Balkan countries or ex-war zones);
  • The fight against organised crime.

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And always remember, they are from the (unelected) governmentm, and they are not only here to help you, but make your life safer.

 

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Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:57 | 6810563 Dr. Engali
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If you call protecting their rule by disarming Europeans well intentioned then you would be correct. A normal person sees this as tyranny.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:39 | 6810809 khakuda
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I'm in agreement with you, I meant to write supposedly well intentioned, as that is how they spin it.  It is great how they use every opportunity to fulfill the agenda of disarming the populace, even in cases where the opposite is called for.  It is easy for them to call for gun control after a school shooting, but to call for it at a time that it is clear that average citizens may need to be armed since their governments are incapable of protecting them takes some large you know what.  Just like how stealing money from people with negative interest rates is spun as good.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:53 | 6810901 Dr. Engali
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Agreed

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:28 | 6811479 Baa baa
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I got you the first time and was puzzled by the down votes.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:55 | 6810551 Silverhog
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EU does not care how many die by terrorists. The real worry is more about their strangle hold on the public. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:07 | 6810978 Sparehead
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If only the politicians and their protection had to abid by their own rules.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:58 | 6810558 gaoptimize
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One more thing: We now have a well-constructed experimental set-up:  Two Western populations under threat from hundreds if not thousands of anti-Western jihadists in their midst.  One has bought almost 20,000,000 firearms over the last 12 months with more than one gun per capita net.  The other, almost completely disarmed.

Test #1: Which population will experience more terror acts?

Test #2: Which population will experience more casualties from the time a terror act commences until it is finished?

Of course, there are gun-free, no-carry areas in the USA, so the results of the test have to be analyzed in that light.

I can tell you which test population I'm glad I'm a member of.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:40 | 6811508 durablefaith
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Which one is more likely to be turned to glass?

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 22:02 | 6811711 tarabel
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America is a very big place, and the people you would "glass" are the ones doing their damnedest to keep it a beaten down me-too Eurofag socialist hellhole. Getting rid of them would be a tragedy but not an unmitigated one.

You might be better off to bomb the boonies. Those are the people who will run the race and finish the job.

https://youtu.be/HIBtk6Dy1JY

https://youtu.be/JqNoRNJSXx0

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 16:59 | 6810576 Bytor325
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This tragedy would never have happened had the EU moved to make illegal guns and illegal murder just a little more illegaler, sooner. 

If only France had the illegalist murder laws instead of plain, old illegal murder laws, there would be Utopia throughout the emasculated Eurozone.

So the govt who wont allow their citizens the God given right to self defence, which doomed them to die on their knees like pigs in a slaughtterhouse has just doubled down to assure that in the future, even more of them will die on their knees likes pigs.

Brilliant. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:26 | 6811473 Baa baa
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Kind of a weird post...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:03 | 6810579 Hubbs
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Cherchez le ammo.

 

I want to see if any restrictions on ammo, because guns become  useless if no bullets, and, well, once bullets are fired, they are gone.

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:05 | 6810953 Sparehead
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That seems to be the reasoning behind the running US shortages on ammo. True to his track record, Obama has had the complete opposite affect on reducing the number of guns and ammo held by the civilian population.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:17 | 6811018 Sivad UK
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Except 22 LR - go try and buy more than a brick of those...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:25 | 6811468 Baa baa
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I have no problem any more. Get them anywhere.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:01 | 6810592 Bytor325
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No new laws banning those pesky blow up suicide bomber vests?

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:02 | 6810598 MoonSun
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Absolutely doomed to fail. In a few years everybody will be able to print a gun on a 3D printer at home.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:40 | 6810823 ToSoft4Truth
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FYI - There will be no 3D guns. There will be no revolution. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:05 | 6810618 Be_Optimistic
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Perfect. Just what we need. Confiscate more guns off law abiding citizens. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:09 | 6810632 css1971
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Y'know... The way things are going there's going to be a die-off. A big one. I don't believe it's possible to derail it now, the matrix is just too deeply embedded and like this directive, they all just dig harder when it's pointed out they're in a hole.

So. As I see it, the key is to side step the process. Not be there when it happens.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:11 | 6810648 tarabel
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I used to wonder why nobody stopped Hitler in the 1930s. I don't anymore.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:21 | 6810697 22winmag
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Schoolchildren in America would often ask that question a few short decades ago. Now these schoolchildren are middle aged and older.

 

Americans are not all that dumb and have been smelling the bovine excrememt since long before WWI and WWII.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:58 | 6810924 Sivad UK
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I am middle aged. I grew up in South Alabama and was in school in the 80s (kindergarten class of 1979). We were taught the Nazis came to power because the Allies miscalculated after WWI and impoverished an entire nation (germany). We were taught that basic education and human rights was the way to avoid this in the future.

We aren't stupid or uneducated in the heartland. We are just realists.

 

 

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:20 | 6810704 css1971
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Hitler got 36% of the popular vote in the 30s.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:07 | 6810976 silverer
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The other 2/3?  Never mind...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:22 | 6811038 css1971
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Chancellor of a coallition government.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:14 | 6810669 Hyjinx
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No ban on Muslims?

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:06 | 6810970 silverer
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You mean banning them from targeting unarmed civilians?  Nope, no ban that I can see.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:15 | 6810678 22winmag
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America is saturatued with hundreds of millions of fine firearms (like permanently).

 

Snipes: We're safe around here.

 

Connery: You call this safe?

 

Snipes: Rough neighborhoods may be America's last advantage.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:18 | 6810685 European American
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It's tempting, as a European American (13 generation; 1632), to run guns to our "white" brothers and sisters in Europe. I think we have more than enough guns for ourselves, I know I do, to help stop the (designed) white genocide.

Armed, Law Abiding Citizens and a Militarized, Fascist Police State CANNOT COEXIST. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:22 | 6810701 honestann
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To make personal firearms difficult to get...
#1:  Makes self-defense virtually impossible.
#2:  Makes terrorism much easier to practice.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to prevent determined individuals from getting or making firearms and bombs.  Thus, when firearms are made illegal, terrorists and criminals still have no major difficulty getting or making them.  However, virtually every non-terrorist, non-criminal will not get firearms to protect themselves and others.

This makes terrorism and all other criminal activity much easier.

Which is what predators-DBA-government want.  Why?  Because every time there is a terrorist or criminal event, they have another excuse to get more funding, more weapons, and more capacity to enslave and abuse every citizen.

The terrorists and criminals are laughing their asses off right now.

The population is screwed.  They should never accept any restrictions on their ability to defend themselves.  But they will, because they're hopeless excuses for sentient beings.

Humans are a failed species.

Humans are finished.

PS:  Far and away the major terrorists are predators-DBA-government and the mercenaries and crazies they create, fund, supply, sponsor and direct.  So actually, what is happening is terrorists demanding their victims be incapable of self-defense.  Sick.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:44 | 6810857 Sivad UK
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h-nn - Clearly you have never lived in a gun free Europe... Only the criminals and state have guns here (not talking about shotguns and rifles allowed for hunting)...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:56 | 6810912 Sparehead
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Wasn't that her point?

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 19:44 | 6811153 Normalcy Bias
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+100!

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:21 | 6811456 Baa baa
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Wrong, we (Humans) have enjoyed a long (In our terms) period of a benign  environment. We did what any animal does, we bred. Soon enough, a few years of immoderate weather and a handful of rumblers will set things aright.

No extinction, more a large, heartbreaking die-off.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:27 | 6810734 NoWayJose
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But terrorists use full auto AK-47s, rocket propelled grenades, And mitary grade explosives.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:39 | 6810819 trader1
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  • Stricter conditions for the online acquisition of firearms, to avoid the acquisition of firearms, pieces thereof or munition through the Internet

 

Close on the heels of the gruesome attacks on innocent bystanders in Paris, GhostSec has said that ISIS terrorists are owners of a massive bitcoin wallet worth $3 million. Many terrorism watchers have been questioning the source of finances for ISIS efforts. Some have pointed out to ISIS extortion rackets and ransom schemes as the prime finances in addition to black marketing of oil in Syria.

GhostSec, which is a off-shoot of the online hacktivist collective has said that the ISIS regularly uses cryptocurrencies to fund its operations. DW (Deutsche Welle) previously reported that the Islamic State is experimenting with currency, specifically gold and bitcoin. One bitcoin wallet received around $23 million in a month; anti-ISIS hackers from GhostSec followed a chain of transactions to another wallet with over $3 million in bitcoins.

Ghost Security Group confirmed to NewsBTC that ISIS is “extensively using bitcoin for funding their operations” and that the group has “managed to uncover several bitcoin addresses used by them.” Furthermore, bitcoin is “their prime form of cryptocurrency.” No evidence was given, such as the bitcoin wallet address, as the hackers “cannot go into more detail at the moment on current investigations.”

Use of bitcoins suits the ISIS affiliates as it offers some degree of security and anonymity to its transactions., and integrity to digital transactions. In this case, as regards ISIS/ISIL, it appears we have GhostSec, who in some ways have done more to disable to the neo-Caliphate organization than has the US Government or will the French with their bombs and guns. Getting to the heart of any militant organization’s financing is absolutely the best way to slow them down.

TL;DR

The DarkWeb will be enLIGHTened...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:42 | 6810839 Sivad UK
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TLDR WTFAYTA?

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:53 | 6810902 trader1
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"stricter controls for the online acquisition of firearms" = we will mandate that ISPs block bitcoin networking protocols and access to the dark web.

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:12 | 6810997 Sivad UK
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You think IS use bitcoin and not just buy from the open arms market that is everywhere on the African continent? Why the hell would they bother? They can take a 2hr flight south and get whatever they want.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:30 | 6811070 trader1
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you obviously haven't heard about their recent strategy of driving the weapons from CEE:

Originally reported by Bavarian public broadcaster Bayerischer Rundfunk, a 51-year-old man from Montenegro was stopped by police on November 5.

His car was subjected to a thorough search after police on the scene found a gun barrel in the vehicle. Several automatic handguns, hand grenades and explosives were uncovered in the shake-down.

http://www.dw.com/en/bavaria-arrest-raises-suspicions-about-links-to-par...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:52 | 6810895 TRM
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So give the info to Vlad and ask for a "finders fee". I'm sure he'd be happy to. He's already offering 50 million of his own money for a reward for info about the plane bombers.

Just imagine the irony. The asassins who kill ISIS members could be paid with ISIS own money. Sweet.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:40 | 6810827 Sivad UK
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Wait - Seriously. we are talking about strengthening gun laws in a continent where guns are banned? How can you tighten a zero tolerance policy? Serious question...

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:46 | 6810868 trader1
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you're missing the point.

the law has less to do with restricting weapons sales that are already restricted and more to do with going after the DarkWeb and crypto currencies, since that is the mechanism IS and other high-tech criminals have used to acquire weapons in europe.

 

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:51 | 6810885 Sivad UK
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You think IS get the weapons in Europe? Seriously?

Ther guys (non state) holding and selling guns inside the European frontier are not selling them to IS. Dead tourists and bombs are bad for the sale of drugs, hookers and cleaned money. The bangers in Europe aren't trying to crush their cash flows...

Get real...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:12 | 6810969 trader1
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Bulgaria

States, including Bulgaria, are failing to adequately control the transport of weaponsaround the world leading to serious human rights violations, Amnesty International said in a report.

Examples highlighted in the report include a case study about the delivery of machine gun/anti-aircraft gun parts from Bulgaria flown on a regular scheduled Air France passenger flight from Sofia to Charles de Gaulle airport, Paris, in September 2008.

http://www.novinite.com/articles/118246/Bulgaria+Blacklisted+in+Amnesty+...

 

Bulgaria Becomes a Weapons Bazaar By RAYMOND BONNER Published: August 3, 1998   

SOFIA, Bulgaria— Once the renowned supplier of weapons for the Soviet Union, this Balkan country has become the arms bazaar for rebels and terrorist organizations of every political, ethnic and religious persuasion, Western officials and experts in the small arms trade say.

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/03/world/bulgaria-becomes-a-weapons-bazaa...

The Sheraton hotel in Sofia, Bulgaria, is a neoclassical colossus built during the Soviet era. The rear end of the building butts up on a 4th-century church and mossy Roman ruins, and it dwarfs the country’s adjoining presidential palace. Inside the hotel, a dark-eyed woman in a pantsuit invites guests to the erotic nightclub in the hotel basement. Skip the strip club, and there’s a hotel bar with a spacious lounge, where carpeting absorbs sound, and marble pillars reflect the light of the massive crystal chandeliers.

It is here that a short, heavyset, American arms dealer visiting from Fresno, Calif., held his business meetings. Bulgarian weapons dealers said that this man — 53-year-old Ara Dolarian — was likable and garrulous. He was often there on behalf of the U.S. government or its allies, shopping for weapons destined for America’s most difficult and dangerous foreign-policy tangles, such as Iraq and Afghanistan.

From 2006 until last year, Dolarian managed to get contracts affiliated with the U.S. government that ranged from less than $20,000 to $14 million.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/how-a-one-time-pig-peddler-helped-the...

 


Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:14 | 6811007 Sivad UK
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So the actual solution is to control the European frontier (which is already mandated by law and treaty) rather than passing new stupid laws which are redundant and accomplish nothing.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:40 | 6811080 trader1
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why should the central authorities implement network traffic blocking of bitcoin protocols and dark nets only in the frontier?  

 

you need to start thinking like those who have the power instead of the way you wish things were...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:05 | 6811417 Baa baa
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That opportunity passed by long ago.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:05 | 6810955 KittyStix
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You can get pretty much anything you want within walking distance outside of the Frankfurt Bahnhof. Take the center street, 6 store fronts in... 

Tell em the CIA sent ya... 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:03 | 6810946 tarabel
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Oh, they aren't banned-- just made impossibly expensive and convoluted for anyone except rich people and their security forces to own.

All that this does is raise the threshold of how rich you have to be in order to make the grade.

And by forcing the less-fortunate to sell their guns, it frees up more supply for those who truly "deserve" to own them.

But, fear not, by taking a staff position, you too can be protected by your overlord.

The fanbelts aren't the only ones eager to turn back the clock to 700 AD. 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:10 | 6810987 Sivad UK
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Seriously??? That is your commentary?

Rich guys have side by sides and 20 guage bird loads. 

Forcing less fortunates to sell what guns? Nobody has freely owned handguns over here in decades - it's not the point.

I am pro-gun - so you misunderstand me. I am just saying that we can't mix totally seperate arguments and expect to be taken seriously...

I have no overlord - except my wife... She gets what she wants...

Happy wife = Happy life...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:44 | 6810862 TRM
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Of course strick controls on financing ISIS ... well that will just have to wait. That's crazy talk. Next you'll exept them to arrest all those people that Vlad gave them the names of at the G20.

Mind you arresting them and putting them in western jails might be too nice. Just do nothing to those "special" financiers. I'm sure the Russians will take care of them soon.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:52 | 6810897 Sparehead
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Way to go dumb-ass statist elites, further disarming your populations while putting them at higher risk. This will not end well for anyone.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:05 | 6810963 Sivad UK
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Agreed but not... Who carries in a nightclub? Nobody. An armed population does not matter much against these animals in this situation...

I have a carry permit, my dad was on his belly in a Comombian jungle for much of my childhood with what became JSOC. Even at home in the deep, deep South there would have been the same result...

Let's don't mix issues... It waters down both arguments...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:03 | 6811412 Baa baa
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I dunno, it could easily be a passer by with a CCL and 18 shots. An armed citizenry...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 17:59 | 6810922 Zero-Hegemon
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Europe has officially breached the shithole horizon, from which no rational thought can ever hope to escape. Enjoy the Detroiting of your homelands by your EU leaders (traitors).

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:03 | 6810948 silverer
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The place has now become VeRy unsafe...

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:02 | 6810943 RagnarRedux
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Stefan Molyneux: What Pisses Me Off About The Paris Terrorist Attack

Around the 5:30 mark is where the meat and potatoes start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2iBZkODgxA

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:03 | 6810945 silverer
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Hey EU leaders: Why don't you just tie all your citizen's hands behind their backs and escort them to the movie theaters?  Dumb asses.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:06 | 6810968 Niall Of The Ni...
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Expect any new regulations to be strictly applied only to poor Christians and Jews.

Gun control is never, ever enforced against those who genuinely are too stupid and have too poor a control over their impulses to be trusted with firearms.

For future reference (once decent people gain some control over their government, somewhere on earth), some draft gun control legislation that might actually work:

1. Guns not to be sold to Muslims and blacks, on pain of severe civil and criminal penalties.

2. Any Muslim or black caught with a gun on his person to be executed on the spot with his own gun.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 21:17 | 6811622 MalteseFalcon
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You expected to hear an "amen" from some racists?

Guess not.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:09 | 6810984 moneybots
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"The Crackdown Begins: Europe Just Passed "Strict Controls To Make It Difficult To Acquire Firearms"

 

An invitation to terrorists.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:13 | 6811000 css1971
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I think it is time to emigrate to Russia.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:22 | 6811042 kensuneit
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All those people supposedly corraled, soft targets, and so far, no cell phone videos going viral and no one being championed as a hero for fighting back.  Not a single citizen shot fired in defense.  Followed by a nearly immediate call for stricter citizen gun control making the ability to defend oneself & family all the more expensive & remote.  My paranoid hackles are standing on end.  Every prior time we have seen widespread disarming of a citizenry, the citizenry is victimized by the ruling powers.  And the more I examine the 'event', the less sure I am about it.

http://nodisinfo.com/the-fake-dead-and-wounded-of-the-paris-france-terro...

http://conspiracyplanet.com/index.cfm

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/186740-2015-11-18-paris-attacks-tru...

http://www.dappercadaver.com/products/amy-victim-stunt-dummy.html

And it coincides nicely with a ban on public protest (gathering) during theinternational climate talks.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/18/cop21-climate-marches-paris...

Wherever this is leading all of us, I do not know for sure, but I am uneasy about nearly every angle of it.

Keep examining, keep looking for hard evidence, not so much for the msm opinion 'evidence'.

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 18:39 | 6811107 trader1
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no one expects americans to understand what happened in paris.

this is so much bigger than your brain can process.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 19:18 | 6811189 Anopheles
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this is so much bigger than your brain can process

So says one of the brainwashed eurosheeple. 

Hey MORON (I'll use small words you can understand), what do you think happened in New York on September 11, 2001?   You think that a hundred and some odd victims compares to 3000?    And property and infrstructure damage of $12 BILLION?  How does that rank with what happened in Paris? 

 

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Ben Franklin

If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom.

Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 02:19 | 6812237 trader1
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Paris has shifted into higher gear the pivot of European powers away from the US sphere of influence closer to Russia and the East.

notice that Mr. Hollande has not invoked Article V of NATO mutual defense pact.  a road not taken, and that will make all the difference.

silly rabbits. i was once a member of your species.  

 

pro tip: stop thinking from an american prideful perpsective about events which are outside the context of domestic american social/political/econ frameworks.  

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:33 | 6812622 Anopheles
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Article V of NATO mutual defense pact? 

WTF are you talking about?   It was NOT AN INVASION, just a couple of guys shooting up a couple stores and a theatre. 

You're the one who's lost all prespective. 

 

Who said I was American? 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:33 | 6815255 trader1
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France is at war with IS and radical Islam, asking for help from its EU partners and Russia.  NOT NATO.

did you not get the memo?

 

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 19:28 | 6811275 Skip
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Good job EU, excellent idea!

Marvin Harris, one of the world's most noted anthropologists, wrote a book in 1980. This title was previously available as America Now: The Anthropology of a Changing Culture. New York: Simon & Schuster. The new title is Why Nothing Works: The Anthropology of Daily Life 1981.

In the chapter titled: Why There's Terror on the Streets, he demonstrates that American White men have violent crime rates LOWER than English in England and the Japanese in Japan. So why does America have such a high level of violent crime? Dr Harris puts it quite plainly: Blacks and Hispanics. That's the story. He also pointed out that the average gun owner is a middle-aged, middle class White guy.

Resolve all over again that any amount of effort on "our" part at this point in history, "beats the alternatives". The only conceivable "alternative" is, of course to simply submit (it has been "planned that way") to a course of inaction that will culminate in your butchery and the butchery of your loved ones, at the hands of the bolshevik beast.
Richard Cotten, June 1966, Conservative Viewpoint

THEY want American Whites DISARMED so that THEY can do to Whites what they did to the Czar and his family and TWENTY MILLION White Russians according to Khrushchev. These are BOLSHEVIKS in power in the USSA.

I think it behooves each and every single one of us, AND OUR FAMILIES, to join the NRA.

http://www.nrahq.org/

Because the Bolsheviks are prepared to do their WORST and believe me, that is TOO TERRIBLE to contemplate.

Americans never give up your guns By Stanislav Mishin

Why So Much Jewish Fear And Loathing Of Donald Trump?
By Kevin MacDonald, PhD October 29, 2015

As often noted here, mainstream Jewish political attitudes and behavior in the US, from the far Left to the neoconservative right, has always been directed at lessening the demographic, political, and cultural power of White America. This is exemplified by the successful campaign to enact the 1965 immigration law and, even more significant, the continued support for high levels of immigration by the entire organized Jewish community.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 19:49 | 6811357 Dre4dwolf
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Euro-peons have no balls.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:09 | 6811431 falak pema
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Europe has no 2nd amendment law ; so the question is a dead duck.

Its doesn't interest the public except to shoot ducks.

Kalachnikovs type firearms are banned in all European countries from all private sectors.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:26 | 6811472 PenGun
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 It's a good idea to keep dangerous tools from idiots, crazy people and children. It's just that almost all of America, certainly 98%+ of this place, and a great deal of the world fits rather nicely into those catagories.

 

 The EU is just being responsible.

 

 

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 20:44 | 6811522 Stormtrooper
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Collect all of those Kalashnikovs and other cool military weapons and send them to American gun dealers for disposal amongst all of us gun totin, bible thumping heathens.  We'll make'em all disapear real quick.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 21:09 | 6811598 Omega_Man
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think I will order some guns on the internet tonite... legal where I live...and a few crates of AK Ammo, 

I feel for the pathetic european pussies... now they will be mowed down with ease..

 

as if these fake 'isis' dudes bought their guns legally... what a bunch of fucking bullshit.

Frenchmen, say fuck the gov and go get guns... hide them!

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