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Russia Explains To Clueless US Public Why Obama Can't Defeat ISIS
Earlier this week, CNN’s senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta asked President Obama the following question at a press briefing:
"A lot of Americans have this frustration that they see the United States has the greatest military in the world, it has the backing of nearly every other country in the world when it comes to taking on ISIS. I guess the question is, and if you'll forgive the language, but why can't we take out these bastards?"
Well Jim, the answer is quite simple and indeed, if you - or any other member of the mainstream media for that matter - would bother to look at things like the declassified Pentagon report that Judicial Watch turned up earlier this year, you’d be less confused.
Allow us, once again, to provide you with the answers you seek, straight from the Pentagon ca. 2012:
...there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).”
Translation: if Sunni extremists were to establish a proto-state in eastern Syria that would be great because it would destabilize Assad and cut off Iran from Hezbollah thus endangering the preservation of Tehran’s Shiite crescent.
For those who need a still simpler formulation: ISIS started out no different than any of the other rebels the US supports in Syria. They likely received guns, money, and training if not directly from the US, then from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Washington seems to have had some idea that they would seek to capture and hold territory and as far as the Pentagon was concerned, that was just fine. Whether or not the CIA anticipated what would come next is up for debate, but make no mistake, US intelligence knew good and well this was a possibility and let it happen because ousting Assad was (and still is) the top priority.
So when the Jim Costas of the world ask “why can’t we take out these bastards?”, the answer is that if if we did, one of the main forces destabilizing the Assad regime would be gone and not only that, the US would no longer have an excuse to be in Syria, which would leave the country’s political future entirely up to Russia and Iran and that is a decidedly unpalatable outcome not only for Washington, but for Riyadh and Doha as well.
It’s Occam’s Razor Jim: look for the simplest possible explanation and go with that.
Of course that explanation is simply too bad to be true for most Americans and so the public and the mass media will continue to exists in a state of perpetual bewilderment as to why 13 months of aerial bombardment hasn’t done anything to degrade the group.
In case any of the above isn’t clear enough, Sergei Lavrov has commentary which may help to drive the point home, presented below without further comment:
"Despite announcing ambitious plans for its coalition against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL), the analysis of those [US-led] airstrikes during over a year lead to conclusion that they were hitting selectively, I would say, sparingly and on most occasions didn’t touch those IS units, which were capable of seriously challenging the Syrian army."
“Apparently, it’s a kind of a ‘honey is sweet, but the bee stings’ situation: they want IS to weaken Assad as soon as possible to make him leave somehow, but at the same time they don’t want to overly strengthen IS, which may then seize power."
"The US stance seriously weakens the prospects of Syria to remain a secular state, where the rights of all ethnic and religious groups will be provided and guaranteed,”
"Russia’s assessment of the US-led anti-terror operation in Syria is based on observations of specific results and there are little results, not to say there are none – except the fact that during this period [since August 2014] the Islamic State has grown on the territories they control.”
Clear enough?
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And we all know how bears like their honey!
"So when the Jim Costas of the world ask “why can’t we take out these bastards?”
Because we ARE the bastards.
Because he's already squirted two whole bottles of "no tears" baby shampoo into his daughter's eyes and is wondering why they're still crying?
Americans, it’s time to panic! WW3 already started!!! Events linked to Prophecy!
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It amazes me that no one has noticed that Putin hasn't said a damn thing about the Paris attacks.
He uses the clock well in contemplating his next move:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/16/washington-refines-its-false-...
Obongo's most transparent administration ever.
Fucking clown!
Why does America keep losing wars?
The Communist Democrats (Liberals) influence the ROE Rules of Engagement, and then you have the MIC the Military Industrialized Complex that want continuous warfare, and Gov contracts, and of course you have the elite CFR/NWO/FED and global banks that need to feed off the debt of war and the indebted servitude of societies globally from the debt. Jekyll Island
Today the POTUS, Democrats, BLM, Progressives, College Professors, MS Media, & 50% of the U.S. population have no BALLS for self defense or WAR, no common sense, or will to protect their own lives. They are more concern about the weather, disarming law abiding Americans, bashing LEOs, and destorying the U.S. Bill of Rights.
Thank the Lord above that the republicans still stand for all that is good in this world.
Like W invading Iraq to satisfy some Oedipal urge?...... a war that by all standards of International Law was illegal and without justification, a war that destabilized the whole Middle East, killed hundreds of thousands and led to millions of refugees, a war to overthrow a regime that the US HAD supported against Iran for a pointless ten year war...... like Ronnie invading Granada - for what reason again? like supporting AlQuaeda and recruiting juihadists to fight a proxy war against the Russians - jihadists who next turned against WHO?
Get over the 'Dems are bad - Repubs are good' false dichotomy. They both serve TPTB NOT the American people.
I hope the /sarc was forgotten in the above
Obviously.
the ten to zero says that the real meaning came through.
I dunno which group I despise the most ... politicians, or voters.
The whole Democrat/Republican false dichotomy is remarkably similar to the ISIS/Al-Qaeda false dichotomy.
If the clueless US public can't figure out the former in their own font yard, they'll never figure out the latter half a world away.
see the paul craig roberts' cui bono post referenced upthread.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/16/washington-refines-its-false-...
Lose? Lol. They sold a TON of weapons and made a fortune. The MIC has won every war ever. Oh, yeah. You said murica. You're on the buy side, sorry.
Correct, it is more profitable to keep wars eternal, contrary to what Sun Tzu advised.
and if it's not inappropriate, how come islamic state never, ever attacks the greatest satan israel? i guess israel is so excellent at defense it is invulnerable; not even an unsuccessful attack.
i would think just for the sake of the theatrical event we are watching they would have run some entirely mossad operation and attributed it to islamic state.
Occident Mortal - Stupid question from people that can't figure out simple puzzles.
Do you think the MIC likes short or long wars?
America spends 750 BILLION on defense every year. Who do you think has more influence on congress, the neighborhood convenience store or the MIC?
G*ddamn people are stupid because they refuse, absolutely REFUSE to use what's between their ears. 100% willful ignorance.
Its not about winning dumbshits and all the idiots that gave a thumbs up. Its about spending as much money as possible and getting the braindead to endorse it.
Moreover, nobody "wins" a war, least of all, American taxpayers.
America never loses a war! Your definition of 'win' must be wrong.
Did the MIC make tons of money? - WIN
Did the bankers make tons of money? - WIN
Did International Corporations make tons of money - WIN WIN WIN!
"Putin hasn't said a damn thing about the Paris attacks."
As in "Putin Condemns Paris Massacre as 'Barbaric', 'Challenge to Civilization'" November 13.
“I would like to confirm the readiness for close cooperation with French partners on investigating the crime committed in Paris… I hope the masterminds and perpetrators will be brought to justice,”
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/putin-condemns-paris-attacks-barba...
Filed under Stuff the Western MSM Won't Print
Well shit, you can't expect everyone to you know, read media outside of the US. No, that just wouldn't be right. If it's not on Chaos News Network, FAUX, or MSLSD then it's not happening.
Censorship by omission is the most pernicious form of censorship.
Beads. Bees? ... Beads. BEADS?
~GOB Bluth sums up honey and bees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J2kc4oZTVU
Left/Right no censorship here. The agenda perpetuates the diversion/blame game. If you're still here you are too far gone for medical help.
Televised media is a necessary tool. (Controllable; planned programming and message)*ditto on the medical help message above.
Note there is no movement to censor TV or even content of same. There is only desire to halt individuals of like mind congregating in the free speech zone known as the internet.
Propaganda by agitation...whether it be planted now or harvested later...is a powerful form of mind control
Remember: A down vote against the Anti-Putin comment now means you are a Putin-Lover later!!...regardless of the facts, because the perpetrators of this conditioning are either sloppy reckless amateurs or the alternative.
Oh well...everyone has a bad day
they call that mushroom management, I believe.
I'm visiting my wife's relatives in Singapore and one of her brothers came along with us. We had ChannelNewsAsia, an English speaking channel, on and they had people discussing ISIS, the Paris attacks and the seeming problems the US has. My brother-in-law's reaction was priceless. "Wow. We never here anything like this at home on the news!" All I said was, "Really opens your eyes to see things from a lesser-interested third party, doesn't it?"
Thanks for that info. I had thought that and had some evidence from my own travels but yours was very interesting as well.
Watching NPR or Bloomberg makes one question ones thoughts...
While stationed with NATO in Turkey in the 90's we got to read the AP news straight! Totally different from what you read in the paper. Any time you see the byline 'so and so/AP' you know that 'so and so' has added spin and censorship to the original AP news story. The original straight story is disturbingly different.
Well, yeah, except for the day after it happened, when Putin sent Hollande a telegram saying:
"This tragedy has become another testimony of terrorism's barbarity, which poses a challenge to human civilisation...It is clear that the real unification of the international community's efforts is needed for an effective fight against this evil."
Putin also said Russia was ready to "closely cooperate" with France in its investigation of the attacks.
In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, the Kremlin offered its condolences, condemning the "hateful" string of attacks and "inhuman murders".
So, other than talking to the French immediately, calling for unified action against ISIS and all the other standard expressions of diplomatic outrage, and cooperating with the French airstrikes, not a peep out of Putin.
Putin was among the first leaders to publicly and officially expressed his condolences to the people of France.
But Obama actually said nothing publicly and officially about the russian plane crash for the Russian people.
It amazes me that some here like NidStyles, even though they are no infants, cannot read.
You THINK Putin hasn't said anything about the Paris attacks because you don't want to think otherwise, or because reading is too much of an exertion for you.
is troll appropriate?
What happens when the Emperor calls for war and nobody turns up?
I saw some statistics the other day that were rather shocking. Apparently we average about seven air sorties per day against ISIS, and in the vast majority of those, our planes neither drop a single bomb, or fire a single round from their guns. In other words, it's all fucking theater.
If Jim Acosta wanted to actually make himself useful, he'd stop asking vague, open-ended questions, and start asking questions referring to hard facts like these.
Jim Acornhole is merely doing his MSM job, misdirection and propaganda.
Indeed WB7. MSM is just the information arm of the Kakistani government. Only the approved message will cross those news desks.
they don't want to go down as accessories to 9-11 for starters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsoY3AIRUGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhROd7Jt3-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgM6hjNedE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_AL4OlmHc&feature=iv&src_vid=rnbMjAN7B...
http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticl...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVHstSrC1CQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE.
As of Nov. 17th:
Over these 48 days, the Russian aviation group has made 2,289 sorties and delivered 4,111 missile strikes on the terrorists’ main infrastructure facilities, munitions depots and manpower locations.
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50714
and for the mathematically challenged:
2289/48 = 47.7 sorties per day
4111/48 = 85.6 missile strikes per day
4111/2289 = 1.8 missile strikes per sortie
With the Russians cleaning up ISIS, The US and allies have to get in there quickly to protect ISIS.
the paris attack certainly helped.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/16/washington-refines-its-false-...
Long - Oil Truck Manufacturers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgYbiCGYy2c&html5=1
Russian warplanes bomb ISIS oil trucks in SyriaThe internet, youtube, etc is full of videos of Russia attacking ISIS and of Russia being fired upon by ISIS, yet very few vague videos of the US doing the same. But there are no videos of the USA being fired upon by ISIS? I mean, we've been there a lot longer than Russia.
So all the doubters have to somehow answer these questions.
Yeah, cognitive dissonance is a bitch, aint it?
The USAF has admitted and put out the stats to back it up that up til the time of Russian intervention, only 20% of their sorties dropped ordinance. It looks like every Russian flight drops everything they have.
This is where strafing runs would be more effective. The Syrians need to open Kuweiries to allow the Russian and Syrian attack helicopters and SU-25s to do their stuff.
Edit:
Here is what the US is now doing using A-10s (or Apaches?) - 3 or 4 years too late. It is filmed near al Bukamal, which is just inside Syria, close to the Iraqi border.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXvrfmzH05M
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If Jim asked real questions, he would not be invited back to the White House press conferences.
oh, boo-fuckin'hoo. When are these reporters going to grow some balls and ask the tough questions?
Probably not until Trump is in there...
Do you have a link to those stats?
Standard Disclaimer: Trying to awaken some folks...
He might have done but questions must be submitted and vetted. Some go through, others don't.
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I have the impression that Costas simply doesn't care what the answer is. If he thought about it he might be forced to pursue his childhood dream of becoming an investigative reporter. He would then be forcibly lobotomized by his fellow presstitutes. Typical.
It's sad that U.S. can "bomb" ISIS for over a year and get zero meaningful result...unless that's exactly what they're trying to do.
Helps keep the MIC in perpetual taxpayer funded largess.
In Smeldy Butler's words,
"War is a racket."
"It's called the american dream, cause you got to be asleep to believe it."
George Carlin
Ted:
"... and get zero meaningful result...unless that's exactly what they're trying to do."
Pk in a basically benign environment exceeds 0.67. You do the math.
- Ned
They didn't want to get any meaningful result. All forces that oppose Assad are good and of course the US is within her rights to support rebels, like in Ukraine. That's what Lavrov said. In my neck of the woods it's said like 'wash my pelt but down't make me wet'.
Getting rid of Assad and create a vacuum to move in for the gas companies is the goal - don't be a pendant about collateral damage.
US in Syria - ISIL grows.
US in Afghanistan - opium grows.
Because Assad's not dead, Jim.
Obama: "ASSAD!!!!!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EnsUeR2MyI
Because WTF does Assad have to do with this so-called GWOT, douchetards??????????
Saudi . . . Saudi . . . Saudi . . . Saudi, everything comes up Saudi!
28-redacted pages of the 9/11 Commission Report which neither Bush nor Obama will show the American people, because it's about the Saudis!
Saudis have been financing everything from al Qaeda, the Taliban, ISIS, etc., etc., etc.
Largest block of foreign fighters with the Taliban came from Saudi Arabia.
largest block of fighters to ISIS came from Saudi Arabia.
Spending trillions oneverything else ($500 million for five Syrian rebel fighters?????) and little has been accomplished, because there's been ABSOLUTELY NO REGIME CHANGE IN THE LAND OF THE HEAD-CHOPPERS:
Saudi Arabia
Saudi and Tel Aviv 9/11 (with CIA cooperation/assistance)
sgt_doom
Saudi . . . Saudi . . . Saudi . . . Saudi, everything comes up Saudi!
if you had of said "ISrael. . .ISrael. . .ISrael. . .ISrael, everything comes up ISrael" That i could agree with & I would not have downvoted you.
The saudi's are the planned fall guys for all this....so once again ISrael... sneaks away free from blame "the jews will be blamed for nothing" as usual
We may be the Inglorious Bass-turds, but we are Self-Righteous and Self-Chosen Bass-turds.
MANIFEST DESTINY 2.0 -- The Global Game. Rated Z*
* For ZioCons only.
http://atimes.com/2015/11/paris-terror-attacks-who-profits-escobar/
Pepe Escobar on who profits from (phony) ISIS attacks.
The heart of the matter is the drive-by team. Or “teams”. The investigation seems to be clueless about them. The killers at La Belle Équipe arrived on a black Mercedes, according to witnesses. There is no mention of this Mercedes anywhere. The killers were ultra-pro, muscular, methodical – and white.
These are the non-expendables. The high-priced mercenaries. While the whole media circus spreads from Grenoble and Toulouse to Brussels and even Raqqa, they have simply vanished without a trace. No one knows who they are. No one knows who hired them. Hardly social network jihadi al-Baljiki.
Now take a close look at this meeting in D.C., which took place only a little over two weeks before the Paris tragedy. It features CIA’s John Brennan, the director of French DGSE (external security) Bernard Bajolet, former MI6 Chief John Sawers (call him the former “M”), and former Israeli National Security Advisor Yaacov Amidror.
So let’s see how long it takes for NATO boots on the ground. THIS is what Daesh is aiming at.
Unless the management of ISIS are total fucking retards, I'll call red flag on Paris, for a simple reason that I haven't seen covered.
ISIS were given the keys to the kingdom of heaven by Frau Merkel. They could have infiltrated Europe to the nth degree before a mass co-ordinated attack. Instead, they have a killing spree in Paris and suddenly Europe is on lock down, dragging the spotlight full square on refugees and their movements, identities etc. Who would be so brainless as to draw attention to themselves when they have been gifted an opportunity to prepare with relatively less scrutiny for a consideraby more impactful major Europe-wide attack?
So it's like the Ukraine where the West used Nazi gangs to overthrow the former pro-East government, only to hunt down and execute their leaders shortly after. Otherwise the far right might've formed an even more aggresive anti-West, anti-East, anti-everyone government.
Someone did kill the head of Right Sector shortly after the coup d'etat in Kiev.
That story died rather quickly.
Did anybody else expire around the same time?
I also read that there were some rather extraordinary deaths in Poland within the last few years. One of which was that of the individual who put their anti terrorist unit together.
Almost like someone was taking out possible opposition.
This guy, Sashko Billy.
Notorious Ukrainian nationalist militant Muzychko 'shot dead'
+100 for sentence strcture. Are you an American?
This is one of those crazy jew scemes that has spun out of their control
and if they stop the whole house of cards comes down.
The only good thing is BlackLivesMatter is attacking Woodrow Wilson now.
haha...I hope they drag his corpse out of the National Cathedral and put him
on the street.
I Found Only Slaves, Fraudsters and Deniers – On the Plus Side You Have Humour!
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/i-found-only-slaves...
Americans can't be bothered with intellectual type stuff.
As an American, I'm amazed and perplexed at the flag waving, simpletons we have commenting here at ZH these days.
You don't have to be here and you didn't have to say that.
Yes, I down-voted you for... um, being an American with an opinion that places himself above others.
Pretty common.
No worries, I downvoted you for exhibiting poor reasoning skills in your post.
If you haven't noted the influx of trolls or morons since the Friday the 13th attacks, you must not be paying full attention.
I down-voted you because nobody else did.
I hope that is a good enough reason.
I downvoted myself.
I don't need a reason.
"the flag waving, simpletons we have commenting here at ZH these days."
I don't see the flag waving here, not even close.
I see chaos, and appropriately so.
What I do see is a Putin scarfing up as much geopolitical real estate as he can while the false and defunct US leadership works its way out -- to what, nobody knows, but don't underestimate the "flag-waving" forces simmering underneath it all.
The simpletons are those who find some sort of altruism in Putin, when all it is is opportunism.
Ah, where is this "flag waving" here that you speak of, Bay of Pigs?
It has become a bastion of apologists and rooters for Putin;
with more energy applied there than towards shoring up of US leadership.
You are a whiny one aren't you. FYI, there is no US leadership. Please explain how you believe one would shore nonexistent US leadership up if one were so inclined?
Hey bro...was talking about the trolls here, not you. I have no illusions of Russia or Putin.
BoP, you are confusing what are mostly Zionist cheerleaders holding dual-passports with Americans. No need to put on the hair shirt and appologize for these people who only want to destroy you.
No, I get it. Thx...
De nada
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/putin-our-ally-syria/ri11244
Is Putin Our Ally in Syria?Patrick J Buchanan
The problem is that Pat fails to point out is ISIS is us(a).
precise! Well done!
After growing up during the Cold War, it is still difficult for me to reconcile the fact that the Russian Government is now far more credible than my own.
Agreed wholeheartedly. Bizarro land. But it is what it is and we ain't the only ones wondering how when and why.
The Russian Gov was once run by the Khazars who also run DC, but things have changed and the Christians are in power. Guess what, we need real Christian's in power in the US, not Khazars and fake Christians.
save Soviet Jews,
I remember seeeing signs like this many years ago,
it always perplexed me that. save 'em from what?
"After growing up during the Cold War, it is still difficult for me to reconcile the fact that the Russian Government is now far more credible than my own."
It's going to be a rude awakening for the current generation of Americans to experience the collapse of their country just as Russians experienced the collapse of the Soviet Union.
It will be a vastly more difficult process for Americans because they have been indoctrinated with the matra that they are the biggest, brightest and best in the world. Will be sickening for most to realise that they are no more special, no more talented, no more honest than a defunct West African nation.
There are currently many blank pages of the history books waiting to be filled with the inevitable demise of the United States.
All I've known for over 6 decades is that yes, we ARE the #1 greatest Nation ever. We are truly exceptional in every way. My Dad fought at the battle of Guadalcanal and I skipped Vietnam because it was obviously (1970) a purely political undertaking. It was downhill from there. We longed for some reason to be proud Americans again. We had "those feelings" during the Moon landings, beating the Russians at ice-hockey in 1980, the space shuttle and the Persian Gulf War. It's not like losing a loved one but it does compare. I see the end nearing now for sure. My only question being, how did the insanity get such a foothold?
you forgot to mention Reagan
My only question being, how did the insanity get such a foothold?
In a word: liberalism.
"My only question being, how did the insanity get such a foothold?"
In a word, the F'n Federal Reserve Act of 1913.
"how did the insanity get such a foothold?"
Because you failed to protect the rule of law.
Surely though, it must be something outside your realm of control...
No. We let the monkey drive so we can have had our fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXOuFkjy0Z4
I don't think we have long but I don't claim to know much.
If we were Rome, I'd guess we were somewhere past 450 AD.
Our current president reminds me of some of the incompetent leaders during the death of that empire.
Hey, where did the Hasbra Hit Squad go? Well framed, informative posts without downvotes. No ad hominem attacks. Maybe they're all at a meeting? In the meantime ...
All quiet on the western front.
>>>There are currently many blank pages of the history books waiting to be filled with the inevitable demise of the United States.
Without going all fundamentalist on you, I think that the future, such as it is, of the USA will slot nicely into some of those Biblical prophetic books. You know, those really nasty ones with lots of woe, sack-cloth and ashes.
At the time, Jews emmigrating from the USSR usually wanted to go to the US. Zionists bribed appropriate border guards / passport inspectors to give them a choice - ticket back to the USSR or ticket to Israel.
It's all about Israel.
+100
Yep, makes you think back to all those 'refugees from the Soviet Union' and 'dual citizens', were maybe the infiltrators, the spies, themselves. They were 'forced to flee', honest. And not because of their own actions, or involvement in the Soviet government, no never...
You just can’t make this stuff up.
Normalcy Bias:….growing up during the Cold War, it is still difficult for me to reconcile the fact that the Russian Government is NOW far more credible than my own.
Would you care to reconcile that ‘now’ too before it become more difficult later on?
Eu não acho que você entende, amigo.
Ohh. I understand it very well.
You are insinuating that, before my nation was credible.
Then, if you believe anything that a nation tells you, you don’t know history.
Nevermind. It would take too long to explain.
Ele estava a comparar a credibilidade dos dois países em períodos diferentes. Durante a guerra fria e depois. Não significa que fossem mais ou menos credíveis em si (cada país em si).
Pato Bravo,
Both empires lie and cheat.
Not saying that they lie all the time. But, that they only tell the truth if is convenient. But, that is rare.
Both empires are extremely dysfunctional. US more so, because after WW-2, US became the sole superpower. Could do no wrong.
The biggest issue with dysfunctionality, being that a nation, a person, an organization, religion, and so on is that, the truth can never be said.
The truth is worse than poison.
Wow, you changed EI. All of a sudden, you are articulate. Congradulations.
Thanks.
Paying more attention when I am reading in English helped.
Also, blogging, which I found to be a great exercise for the brain, because force me into research critical words/topics before I put in writing, helped organized my thinking process.
Glad that you noticed, because researching facts, then, trying analyzing how those facts were (misre)presented, (mis)labeled, processed, and transformed are hard work. No way the average person, after a day of working and coming home late and tired, can do it. TV is where most get their clues and understandings. But I don’t need to tell you that TV and newspapers are pure indoctrination and circuses. The essence of brainwashing, alongside most of our education system and religion.
So, bloggers are left to fill these gaps created by our education and massmedia. However, as in any democratic system, many bloggers are abusing of this privilege by sounding stupid and/or not substantiating their posts.
Spoken like someone who grew up outside of the US-vs-USSR and can never understand the cold war as a participant, willingly/wittingly or not.
Not simply more credible, it's worse. In an environment which has been dumbed down into black and white by the state and the media. They're the good guys and America is not.
Soviet USSR was never a Russian construct.
Soviet is defunct
Now is Russian Federation
Accept that it is Russian Government in real.
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Normalcy bias
There is no way in the world that I can argue with you!! That is the greatest single sentence
that can be said. Well done my friend.!!!
RB
Weeeelllll. . . there is that little thing that Putin is, technically speaking, a Christian (Russian Orthodox Church member) and our president's middle name translates to son of Mohammed.
Sometimes, those little details mean something . . .
Putin's speaks about his Christian faith:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3d_yxJhmjk
If he is acting then he is the world's best actor.
Thanks for the link, Freddie. I had no idea. I know he's KGB, but that would be an Oscar worthy performance if it were an act, not to mention all of the detail.
This was either before or after a 3 hour Christmas midnight mass.
Upvoted you . . . but I'm pretty sure you don't get as far in the KGB as Putin . . . and beyond into running Russia . . . without 1. being willing to ignore some pretty fundamentally 'Christian' precepts and values and 2. Being a pretty fucking solid poker player / actor / bullshitter.
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How far in the KGB you think he did get? Answer and may surprise you.
That depends on whether one considers what Putin was doing before being named Deputy Prime Minister by Yeltsin (after the KGB had been split into the SVR and FSB/FSK).
Basic explanation his post administrative, Law being one of degrees.
more about intelligence, discipline, patience
2. you descibed more western process of promotion
Very good link Freddie.
I am a redneck. Not white trash but a redneck. I have some edumacation but I am still a redneck.
When I watched the video I saw a bunch of rednecks. For instance, the men standing the cross of Christ up were wearing black jeans c a white button up shirt. This is standard dress for a redneck funeral or wedding. It used to be at least. There are not many rednecks left. Most are white trash(I will not go into the distinction at this time),
All I can say is do not mess c a redneck. He will give you 2 and most likely3 chances and be courteous and apologetic and then "boom" lower the hammer. I had a psychology degree many years ago(yes, I was into basketweaving before basketweaving became so popular; I was a trendsetter) and I remember a social psychology experiment that was done. They would give the subject a task and have him walk down a hallway. In this hallway the subject would be crowded and even bumped by a cohort. If I rember right they stopped the experiment early. The men from large urban northern areas would become very vociferous on the first instigation, and this did not change up to four times. The rednecks were very apologetic and forgiving until the third or fourth time and then out would come "the hammer". But I have learned in my travels that there are rednecks everywhere. Whether it is upstate New York or the boondocks or Pennsylvania.
I guess my point is that do not mess c a redneck too many times. It might bite you in the ass. Every time I hear or read something by Putin I can not help but think that he is talking truth to power. If he is acting then he is an even better actor than Clinton was(I do not know if there is a video of it but watch Clinton in front of the Baptist ministers conference. He was scared shitless, and then he shed a tear and some gobbledygook about praying for forgiveness and he could sense he had them in the palm of his hand. He felt it and he then reverted back to the asshole that he is).
Just some ramblings.
After reading tinkerbell's comment below, I realized I better clarify. I believe that Joel Skousen's predictions are the most prescient that I have read to date.
The President's Mother brought him to be Baptized in secret, as did many believing Russian
Mother lost older son in siege, was left for dead herself, miracle saved.
The family life experiences enough to form a thinking man.
When you have a guy like Snowden who blows the whistle on immoral and illegal activities perpetrated at the highest levels by a U.S. government agency, and his only option is to seek political asylum in........ of all places in the world, Russia. Yeah. Things are definitely upside down.
You're not the only one. My guess is that ZH and elsewhere is loaded with people who have a similar cognitive dissonance dilemma.
But we're dealing with it.
Or have already dealt with it. Smacker, I remember when you got here. Still a little wet behind the ears. Now you are shining like a light in the darkness. Applause.
Thanks :-)
There's a very good chance the Russian government was always more credibile than our own - it's just with technology, alternate media, and a steadily growing numbers of American's who've unplugged from the Matrix - we're able to see past the bullshit now.
Do not confuse Soviet USSR with Russian Federation
Soviet is defunct
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You are right. Soviet was Judaic until Stalin purged them. Why do you think they hate Stalin so much ? (I'm no fan of the midget).Now the US has been Judaized. The REAL communists, the globalists have made a comeback. In my country, a former Soviet satelite and an actual US ally, you can trace their family history. The grandchildren of Kominternists are today's neo-cons and leftists. For example, Pierre Moscovici, former Minister of FInance in France, now unelected EU Kommisar, is the son of a Bolshevik Jew, born in Romania, Serghei Moscovich. We are ignoring the force of their tribalism and worst of all our Christian faith and tradition. We are the stupid goyim doing Jews' bidding while distroying ourselves.
I'm pretty sure that the upper crust during Yeltsin/Gorbachev times were pretty nasty. A lot of them became very rich selling up large bits of Russia, or buying it for roubles on the dollar.
HG Wells's Dystopian writings like "1984".
"1900: He stated in his autobiography that from 1900 onward he considered a World State inevitable."
So you can squirm all you like but there really is no escaping the fisherman's hook. And to the best of my knowledge, none of the prophecies of end times battles mention the USA... unless the US is Babylon the Great.
nofluer,
some do...
Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts. Go team 'merica!
I'm sure I'll hear this on the teevee "programming"
some brutal oppressive regimes are good, some are not. some get weapons, others get bombed. sometimes we give/sell them the weapons and then bomb them later. it's complicated.
No it isn't. Its whatever is our(oligarch) interest at any specific time/
Situational immorality.
Concur. I'd only add that what is generically called "morality" has come in at least 2 flavors, and usually 3 or more -- as a Class-dependant function:
A. In a Totalitarian Regime (Feudal/Monarchical, Fascist, Communist, Dictator), there were 2 types of Morality: One for the Elite/Rulers, and one for the Ruled/Masses. E.g., noblemen and monarchs could 'get away with murder' -- sometimes literally -- and in Communist Russia "All were equal, but some were more equal than others".
B. In a Culture/Regime of 3 or more socio-economic layers, each layer had its own code of Morality. I'd argue that in the Modern Day West, what passes for 'Morality' is merely Middle-Class morality, which the layers above and below mostly ignore, but to which they still pay lip-service for PR reasons. E.g. the Oligarchs have their own morality (of being 'Exceptions' to the Rule), as do the 'folks' in the inner city ghettos (as having to vary the rules, to get by and survive).
The 'Morality' that most people here speak about, I'd wager, is the Middle-Class variety that they grew up with.
It seems to be socio-economic, totalitarian and psychopathic/sociopathic.
"Research has revealed that since a sociopath never conforms to the rules of the society, he or she is not bothered about the consequences of his or her actions. Such people at times are also able to inspire like minded people. Some of the other traits that are common in antisocial people are that they are usually intelligent and have a superficial charm and they are able to attain success using unscrupulous methods. Thus they can also never learn from their own mistakes and they do not hesitate to indulge in certain activities that are considered immoral and taboo by the society".
http://depressiond.com/sociopath-sociopathic-personality-disorder/
No it isn't. Our Oligarch's interest is situational Immortality, always everywhere .... we Create our Reality,
got that , Fat Finger Kevin @ the Fed !
Ones with non-controlled central banks get bombed, ones with, get weapons deals.