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Here Comes China: Xi "Vows Terror Fight" After ISIS Executes First Chinese Hostage

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Yesterday, together with the release of a picture of the alleged bomb that brought down the Russian airplane above Egypt, the ISIS propaganda magazine had another, perhaps even more actionable revelation: it confirmed that two hostages, a Norwegian national Ole Johan Grimsgaard-Ofstad, 48, and a Chinese captive, Fan Jinghui, 50, had been executed.

Two months before the release of yesterday's issue of Dabiq, in the September edition, on the second to last page, ISIS listed two prisoners, one Chinese and one Norwegian, as “for sale.”

Underneath the image of each hostage was a message: "To whom it may concern of the pagans, crusaders, and their allies as well as what are referred to as “human rights” organizations. This Norwegian prisoner was abandoned by his government, which did not do its utmost to purchase his freedom. Whoever would like to pay the ransom for his release and transfer can contact the following telegram number…"

The magazine did not offer any details on how the two hostages were captured or give a deadline outside of the postscript: “Note: This is a limited time offer.”

The tragic fate of both prisoners was revealed yesterday, when Dabiq announced that both had been "executed."

 

The news of the execution promptly raised what may be the most important question for the anti-ISIS conflict: will the last remaining superpower, China, join the conflict? This is what the Diplomat said yesterday: "With the Islamic State now directly killing Chinese citizens, will China be drawn into conflict in the Middle East?" It adds:

To date China has mostly stayed on the sidelines of the fight against ISIS, rather than supporting military operations against the group spearheaded separately by the United States and Russia. That’s in part because ISIS has not posed a direct threat to Chinese citizens, although Chinese officials have warned that the group has been successfully recruiting members of the Uyghur ethnic group.

 

That’s now changed – in addition to reports of Fan’s execution by ISIS, a Chinese citizen was shot during the attacks in Paris. China’s embassy in France reports that the victim is in good condition after being hospitalized. But China Daily notes that over 1,000 Chinese tourists were believed to be in Paris on Friday evening, when the attacks were conducted.

And, as a result of the latest announcement by ISIS, China's isolationist position has now changed and as Bloomberg reports "Xi Vows Terror Fight After IS Kills Chinese Captive" and as it further adds, China's President Xi Jinping condemned the Islamic State’s execution of a Chinese national, "an act that raises pressure on China to take a greater role in resolving Syria’s civil war."

Xi issued a statement on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Manila on Thursday, after Islamic State claimed credit for killing Fan Jinghui, 50, and another Norwegian captive. The group published pictures of the two dead men in its English-language Dabiq magazine on Wednesday under the banner "Executed." It was the first time the Islamic State had killed a Chinese captive.

"China strongly condemns the brutal murder of a Chinese national by Islamic State," Xi said, according to official China Central Television. "I express my deep condolences to the families of the victim. Terrorism is the common enemy of humanity. China resolutely opposes terrorism in any form and resolutely fights against violent, terrorist, criminal activities that challenge the bottom line of human civilization."

Some are sceptical that the execution of the first Chinese hostage by the Islamic State means an imminent military intervention by China: "While the killing might increase China’s urgency in seeking a resolution to the Syrian civil war helping Islamic State to thrive, it was unlikely to steer the country toward support for military intervention, said Li Wei, head of security and anti-terrorism research at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations."

Others, however, recall that during the 2013 Syria campaign, a reluctant China, after dragging its feet for months, did send several warships to the Mediterranean off the Syrian coast as the standoff between Russia and the US hit a crescendo unlike anything seen since the Cuban missile crisis.

As Bloomberg adds, China has for decades pledged to stay out of the "internal" matters of other nations, declining to back international sanctions against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad or Russia over Ukraine, even as its overseas business interests proliferate. Last month, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi outlined three proposals on the Syrian conflict, including political talks, humanitarian relief and greater anti-terrorism cooperation.

This time China may have no choice, especially now that both Russian and US aircraft carriers are headed for the Mediterranean sea, off the Syrian coast where in a rerun of 2013, they will encounter Russian warships once again. China can hardly avoid participating in what is certain to be another geopolitical showdown, even if one where the proxy enemy is a terrorist organization which seemingly the entire world is trying to eradicate and yet nobody has been able to for years.

 

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Thu, 11/19/2015 - 05:54 | 6812421 Haus-Targaryen
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Good.  I would love to see the Chinese, Russians & French blowing the shit out of the goat fuckers while we drop their fighters FUCKING LEAFLETS to warn them we are going to bomb them before we blow them to be with their 72 Virgins.  

http://www.wsj.com/articles/french-airstrikes-in-syria-may-have-missed-i...

"The military attempted to alert the drivers to impending strikes by dropping fliers directing them to get away from their trucks first."

WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING!?!?!?!?!?! What kind of Democrat Socialist Islamist Fascist is running the country!?  WHOSE SIDE IS HE ON!? I tell you all the USSA has the Manchurian Candidate in office. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:08 | 6812430 Harlequin001
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ISIS - "How to win friends and influence people"...

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:48 | 6812468 fudge
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Maybe Russia has plans to launch a strike at KSA.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:53 | 6812472 Latina Lover
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Doubt It.

China was always in the background, supporting Russia. Putin would have not moved forward into Syria without extensive consultations, given the importance of the ME to China's energy security.

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:58 | 6812478 fudge
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Putin >> "We will act in accordance with Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, providing for the right of States to self-defense."

LL Read the top 2 posts, the second contains some interesting info https://krypt3ia.wordpress.com/

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:46 | 6812528 y3maxx
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...F*cking DUHHHH

ISIS is so obviously the work of CIA/Mossad.

Petrodollar world fiat is at stake here.

But USSA is so obviously BK and all that's left is to begin WW #3

Elite/MIC believes Russia/China will not challenge it due to USSA's overwhelming

thermo nuclear dominance.

...F*cking DUHHHH

and USSA is now introducing its own bailin......MYRA

Must not discuss Student Loans, Social Security,infrastructure repair of bridges & roads.

...F*cking DUHHHH

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:48 | 6812537 new game
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a trillion dollars could have built a coast to coast modern rail system to major cities. instead it has created the striff around the world. who is the enemy?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:56 | 6812539 VinceFostersGhost
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In other news......Obama has declared war.....on reporters.

 

When you lose Dianne Feinstein.....you're pretty screwed.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/260310-feinstein-isis-is-not-contained

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:09 | 6812567 Tarshatha
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So I gues Bibi will be on a plane to Beijing pronto, just like he did with Putin.

And trying in vain to convince the Chinese to stay out of his war against Syria.

Only America and the west bend over and serve up their children for the Jews to use.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 14:35 | 6814169 froze25
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Thats just Feinstein code for she needs to wet her beak a bit more if they want her to play ball.  Make no mistake she is for sale, she just needs more money.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:16 | 6812585 Antifaschistische
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Yes, America is the stupid new kid on the block...dealing with terrorist like a clueless 4 month old puppy playing with a viper.  China and India have centuries of experience that America does not have.  This isn't a "wake up" call for China because as you've noted, they hae always been watching from the sidelines.

...and does Syria really need ONE MORE super power dropping bombs on it.  Is there anything left in Syria!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:34 | 6812450 HowdyDoody
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Back in the days of the Vietnam War, Kissinger came up with the strategy of levelling southern and western Cambodia using B-52 carpet bombing. The results were horrific in terms of lives lost and destroyed infrastructure. At the time, there was a tin-pot medievalist thug with about 2-5000 followers. His name - Pol Pot. Within a very short time he had 200,000 followers and they went on to run their genocide. Interestingly Pol Pot's goons were never seriously attacked by US bombers. Perhaps that is why his followers increased in numbers as it appeared to be the only way to escape being bombed to smithereens. Maybe that was because they also served to help fulfil US foreign policy regarding Vietnam. Realistically, some of the deaths, possibly a significant proportion, attributed to him were probably the result of mass US bombing.

The parallels with ISIS are fairly obvious.

Killing the monkey is one step, but unless you deal with the organ grinder, events will repeat sometime later.

http://rabble.ca/toolkit/on-this-day/us-secret-bombing-cambodia

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:40 | 6812455 Grave
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whats really sad is these uneducated idiots are just tools used by psychopaths who rule the world through terror of war, conflict and violence

step a bit backwards and look at the bigger picture and you will see their hands in all these false flag operations throughout the history, to manufacture conflict and war, for power, profit and enslavement of societies

their days are counted, with internet comes the access to cumulative knowledge of mankind, and over time, with knowledge comes freedom from psychopaths

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:46 | 6812523 Volkodav
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Word is the French are knowingly bomb where ISIS already abandoned...

for convince French people.....and also hitting Syrian infrastructure

never trust these French

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:23 | 6812603 fudge
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Yes that does seem to the words in back channels.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:10 | 6812712 Noplebian
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I Found Only Slaves, Fraudsters and Deniers – On the Plus Side You Have Humour!

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/i-found-only-slaves...

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 05:53 | 6812422 Manthong
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Alright!

Everybody into the pool!

https://youtu.be/1E9JSVeLkNk

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:35 | 6812451 Hans-Zandvliet
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New York, Londen, Paris, Munich, everybody talks about...

bombing Syria.

Everybody into the pool indeed: the pool of WW-III

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 05:56 | 6812424 SMC
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“the entire world is trying to eradicate and yet nobody has been able to for years.”

Entire World? LOL. The propaganda continues…

There are puppets and then there are the puppeteers who are working very hard to start World War 3.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:10 | 6812431 Winston Churchill
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Sad to see, what I thought were the saner heads on ZH, succumbing tp it.

Herd instinct beats all.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:25 | 6812443 Tyler Durden
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Once again the sarcasm tag fails to come through

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:32 | 6812447 Winston Churchill
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I was talking of Haus.

The Tylers only require a a NOT sarc tag.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:44 | 6812463 Haus-Targaryen
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I am always open to criticism.  Tell me where I am wrong. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:09 | 6812491 Winston Churchill
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You seem to be falling for the xenophobia,A pre requisite for war/

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:16 | 6812500 Philo Beddoe
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Somebody really wants us to hate Muslims.  As long as they are people I am willing to hate them. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:13 | 6812579 LibertarianMenace
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What ME organization has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain in this surrogate war? Almost like that was/is/was the strategery from the start -  about 3k - 5k years ago. They'll always fight to last drop of everybody else's blood.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:19 | 6812506 nmewn
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I say we allow 100,000 Syrians to come in and put them them in tents on the WH lawn while their new homes are being built in suburbs of northern Virginia.

And school for their children won't be a problem at all, we put all them in Sidwell Friends where Obama's and David Gregories kids go ;-)

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:54 | 6812678 NoPension
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They can do the jobs we won't do;

Concrete, carpentry, drywall, roofing, painting, landscaping, landscape maintenance, plant nursery , chicken processing, farm hands, short order cooking, maid service, commercial cleaning, duct install.
Of course, that's for the non educated. If you have a degree, and are willing to work in IT for $28,000 a year, go Fortune 500.

Do they get a tax break? 5 years? 10? Eligible for Bammy Care? S S?

What a country!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:47 | 6812536 highly debtful
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I was under the impression Haus was talking about muslim extremists. I happen to agree with him on this one. What does that have to do with xenophobia?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:59 | 6812540 Haus-Targaryen
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You are correct.  If you read the assocaited story the post makes sense as you interpret it.  If you just read it without the attached WSJ article -- then I can understand Churchill's position.  

Imagine for a second in WWII.  There are a convoy of over 100 German trucks filled with oil ready to head to the front.  Would we have dropped the truck drivers leaflets to let them know we are about to bomb them -- or would we have just bombed them?

Look at what we did to Cambodia in the Vietnam War.  We essentially firebombed the entire country. We didn't leaflet anyone.  Yet we are leafletting IS oil truck drivers, because the *might* not be members of IS?  Um -- why are they delivering its oil then?  

Anyways, this is just the kind of stuff that goes on in my mind.  

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:06 | 6812563 highly debtful
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You know, elewhere in this thread you were talking about the risk of a massive body count in Europe and that's my fear exactly. Europeans have the right to discuss all the pros of multiculturalism out in the open, but not the cons and therein lies a tremendous risk. Beware the blowback when TPTB block any attempt to a fair assessment. The deeper you take the plastic ball into the water, the more violently it will break from the surface once you let it slip.

I for one don't want to lose my soul, that's why I think it's high time to start voicing our frustrations now, before we start taking matters into our own hands.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:17 | 6812589 Haus-Targaryen
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Exactly.  Even a short look at Europe history is always at the end of much talking, economic sanctions, trade sanctions, border protection -- those living in what is today Rainbowland solve their issues one way -- as a last result -- a massive body count.  

This has happened over and over and over again in history.  Anyone who thinks this ends with everyone holding hands and smiling at one another refuses to acknowledge history and the human affinity to repeat it.   

This situation has to get under control yesterday, as the farther we go down this "importing more and more 3rd worlders directly into a first world society is a good thing" brings that "point of no return" ever closer.  When the Left suppresses the open discussion of both the good and the bad -- the quicker said event horizon approaches.  

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:00 | 6812691 NoPension
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Muslims. Islam.

My opinion.

Get together, and convene a reformation. Modify your playbook (Q'ran), and bring it into the 21st century.

Christianity did that. ( fuck you Obama, comparing 12th century Christians to this scum)

Otherwise, I view you ALL the same. Just some of you root quietly from the sidelines. But that won't give you a pass in my book, when this comes to a head.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 13:28 | 6813823 Axie
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Ortodox Christians never "reformed", yet I never heard of self-exploding Russians, Serbs or Greeks...

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:22 | 6812602 Urban Redneck
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Forget ancient history... Kindler Genter Bush (41) gave Saddam the Highway of Death with the very same A10's that Black Bush (Dubya's doppelganger) is using for community organization instead of war fighting.  One can argue about the morality of that slaughter, but not the legality (even before the younger two Bushies rewrote the US Laws of War).  A retreating enemy, is not a surrendering enemy, and may be engaged as a combatant. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:35 | 6812520 TungstenBars
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That statement makes it seem as if you are falling for the official narratives..

 

It's all theater, designed as one 0hedger put it to "get everyone in the pool". The rest is just fugazi or close to it. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:45 | 6812530 Haus-Targaryen
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@ you and @ Churchhill 

While I realize and appreciate it is all Kabukhi theater, the effects of said Kabukhi theater are going to be very very very real.  

What I mean by this is, yes -- the US/Bilderberger created IS to kill off Assad so then we could kill off ISIS so we could build a pipeline through Syria to Europe and bankrupt Russia.  Any interaction with ISIS is just another "scene" in this theater.  

However the flooding of the West, also orchestrated, is very real.  Rapes are skyrocketing, violent crime in Germany is off the charts & common sense in both the political and media spheres is gone, replaced with some shrieking form of PC.  That being said -- while I logically know the various crises' creators are the same as those posing the solutions -- that does not mean I cannot take an intellectual stand against this insanity.  In fact -- given we know what is really going on -- I think we don't just have a duty, but a moral responsibility to be as loud about this being bullshit as possible.  If we don't -- and those in control keep getting their way -- this will end in Europe as it always has -- in a massive body count.  I get the feeling the US will end much the same way.

 
TL;DR -- While I know its a play, its effects are real, and worth fighting over, which is what it will eventually come to.    

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:15 | 6812581 Urban Redneck
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Theater is a misundersestimated word.

In the of world of geopolitics theater is not so much a coordinated production, as a well known and well defined series of of movements, similar to chess for anyone more sophisticated than a toddler. 

What the "skeptical" anal cysts leave out of their analysis is that China is already in open confrontation with the US.  The almost inevitable, unless the US significantly escalates or diffuses tensions in South China Seas, engagement in Syria by China is not primarily about Syria.

ISIS is a warm up squad for the PLA,  a mechanism for China demonstrate resolve without firing on a US Navy ship, and a shot of heroin in an era of rising addiction to Nationalism.  The question is not whether China has a choice, but whether they will choose to accept this invitation, or bide their time.

 

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 05:59 | 6812426 Sid James
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Send in the Chinese Robowarriers. Guaranteed to last 17 minutes in battle before needing a recharge.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:00 | 6812428 80 years are up
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This is really getting to be interesting.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:15 | 6812553 VinceFostersGhost
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Would you like some sugar with your coffee?

 

.....say when.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:07 | 6812432 dogismycopilot
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PetroChina is doing well in Iraq.

They need to protect their investment.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:16 | 6812436 medium giraffe
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Terrorists strike by hitting soft targets, or high value targets in order to create maximum fear and attention for their cause.  What they generally DON'T do is go around poking the biggest bullies they can find and inviting them over for an all out face off that they can't possibly win.

It's bullshit folks, 1914 style.  And we all know what happens next.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:31 | 6812446 edotabin
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NO!!!!  Terrorists always carry their passport which can be found near the site of a HUGE explosion in pristine condition.

Bullshit indeed and on a grand scale. As is the division between east and west. All one big shit show.

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:45 | 6812464 medium giraffe
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Top Tip: Recycling Unobtainium from fake Syrian passports is a cheap and convenient way to reinforce your fallout shelter.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 01:18 | 6816571 translator zero
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+11

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:59 | 6812480 Winston Churchill
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Soon as well.Spring of next year seems to be the plan.

Cannot really be much or any later than next yearmall thinhs considered.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:23 | 6812442 Abitdodgie
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I think China and Russia will want the practice working together for the up coming war with America.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:27 | 6812445 fabio massimo
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it is extremely difficult understand the reality behind chinese words , mr Xi knows perfectly that the Majority of Isil (islamic state of iraq and levante ) Are Chinese Citizen. China is At all able to control his internal affairs and even less control the muslim area which has high population.
This why China ( totally incapable ) asked the Israeli help.
So what he wants ? nothing , he could not shut up now but it is only
chinese shadows theatre. In any case China always support Iran as keep
Iranian money in China in K.bank so indirectly they support. Iran action.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:39 | 6812454 Frederico
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So many words, to say absolutely nothing.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:23 | 6812510 roddy6667
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I don't know if you are misinformed, stupid, working for the CIA, or off your meds. STFU

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:58 | 6812550 Baby Bladeface
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The pills important not to forget.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:33 | 6812448 Panic Mode
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I think the goal of ISIS have completed. They managed to piss every single nation off. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:36 | 6812452 buzzsaw99
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i had no idea that syria was such a top tourist destination

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:45 | 6812457 Philo Beddoe
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I heard that is where they plan on opening Terror Disney. Mickey Mouse will blow the fucking shit out of the place on opening day and leave his Disney Passport at the entrance. 

http://www.disneybymark.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/DbM172.jpg

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:52 | 6812470 buzzsaw99
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the red queen shouts OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:01 | 6812483 Philo Beddoe
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LOL. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:01 | 6812484 Pliskin
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Will Mcain be there as 'Goofy'?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:16 | 6812499 Albertarocks
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Did you ever hear the true story about why Minnie Mouse was fired from Disneyland? 

They found out she was fuckin' goofy.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 14:16 | 6818558 Doubleguns
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Guano insane. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:39 | 6812453 Zapporius
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You can't have 7bn humans on the planet with oil running out, and you can't have unpredictable, open-ended outcome. Solution: start a ww3, let them kill each other off (wretched idiots) and make sure once it's all over, you are still not only in power, but saviour.

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:53 | 6812473 lakecity55
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That is only 1 option, pursued by TPTB.

The other solution is co-operation by the world's nations, acting as sovereign entities under Treaty, trade, and free markets, unencumbered by the Money Power.


Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:54 | 6815345 Zapporius
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problem with that scenario is that people currently in power would become just people, which they worked for centuries to avoid. And sheeple is sheeple and is asking them to do exactly what they will never do.

 

Popcorn.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:43 | 6812461 Brazen Heist
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If the Middle East was the cradle of civilization, it will also be its grave.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:48 | 6812467 Grave
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dont say my name in vain :p

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:14 | 6812495 Victor von Doom
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"If the Middle East was the cradle of civilization, it will also be its grave."

It wasn't and isn't. Linear torch passing Progress historical interpretation is a leftover from the Victorian Era.

Cultures generate Civilization periods during the course of their lifespans.

Being Civilized is a cultural phenomena, not some psyche based positive disease passed on throughout the ages.

The West is at the end of its civilzation period.

Want proof? Cultural movements like Feminism have all but killed chivalry. High etiquette is going out the window very quickly.

Thug like behaviour is becoming the norm from the masses. 

Cross reference this with the flooding of the West with barbarians and you can see that our civilized behaviour patterns are going to go out the window.

Action replay of last century. 

Our only hope this time is that of a Western military victory, not extra Western - be it Zio related or not.

Otherwise we're sunk.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:27 | 6812512 Brazen Heist
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What I was getting at was getting too bogged down in the Middle East will bite back hard and erode what civilization is left in the West - due to spillover. Case in point - the mass migration of barbarians into Europe and also terrorism.
The barbarians want to rip civilization apart from the inside, using its own systems against itself, and using mass psychology of fear.

As long as barbarians have oil, they have money and influence. Its a shitty state of affairs we have to live with. Until the oil runs out, or we annihilate each other, whichever comes first.

Apparently the goat fuckers in the Middle East can't really govern or do anything useful, so one way or another we are all affected by their stupid bullshit.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:55 | 6812545 Sparkey
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Mass media enabled this Victor, all modeled behavior represents the behavior of people with less than average intelligence, cultural norms are habitual behavior, learned behavior,just like other domestic animals people can be trained to the habits of thought they are capable of.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:50 | 6812469 lakecity55
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These guys are great at killing unarmed, beaten, helpless prisoners.

Thanks, Atlanticists, for creating and arming these murderous buffoons.

The Lesson to take away from all of this is the Atlanticists will go to any length to destroy Nationalism/Nation-States.

The existence of the Nation State concept is anathema to these fiends.

Your ultimate Axis of Evil is Zionism and the countries they control through their banking centers.

From creating terrorist armies, invading countries through Islamic and Hispanic invaders, using public monies to prop up their financial power, all people of the planet are under attack.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 06:59 | 6812479 dogismycopilot
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NATO and EU headquarters are in Brussels. Terrorists Masterminds launching raids from Muslim Ghettos based in Brussels. I hope the Russians or Chinese can sort this shit out because no else seems to be able to.

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:00 | 6812481 onewayticket2
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great.  maybe now the Chinese will take all those Syrians and put them in their Ghost Cities....and be seen as the "good guys"

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:19 | 6812505 blown income
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WW III  it's our Christmas gift whether we like it or not

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:20 | 6812507 wstrub
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We are at war with the Military Industrial Complex.  We all need to stick together to make them irrelevant at a time when they are trying to do the opposite.  We can't be at war with each other when people from ALL countries and cultures are our neighbours and friends. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:45 | 6812534 Brazen Heist
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Look all around, its a world of sheep. Most people still want to be ruled, that is the sad state of affairs.

An anarchy of self-responsible and accountable men and women coexisting is impossible at this stage.

Sadly, in our lifetimes humanity will still largely be bogged down by retarded emotions (fear, mass hysteria etc) and institutions (religion, the State, military).

Things evolve slowly. Some of us around here envision things much farther ahead than most are willing to even imagine, but its going to be a slow process for the world as a whole to get there.

So while we're at it, make the most of the best emotions humanity can offer, and the best sensations. Become the example you wish to see in the world. That way, when you die, you won't regret anything.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:03 | 6812557 bunnyswanson
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Battle of good v evil is underway. 

“… Israeli leadership has lost its moorings, opening the floodgates of criticism.”

https://www.darkmoon.me/2014/israel-a-cornered-rat/

"In a 2012 interview with the New York Post, Kissinger made the following blanket statement: “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.”'

http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/88491.html (2009)

"A study conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over Israel's survival beyond the next 20 years"


Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:27 | 6812514 negative rates
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This is my last post, not so a much a conundrum, but an ultimatum, a new beginning, a chance to leave this rat hole of a society for a more compassionate one, a new life you might say, without regards or regrets. but before I do, some background on how we got to this place and time. It was 2007, a new form of gathering, exploring, organizing and communicating was being born, It was called internet blogging, and I wanted a chance to share my experiences and knowledge with the very trying times ahead, the timer was expiring and I saw with this birth the opportunity to publish information which would never have seen the light of day without it. So I set out to refine, organize and plot my attack against some of the most evil and trying times humans have ever been a part of or (accustom) too. It would require saying the exact right thing at the exact right time in order to have the full and proper effect this information rightfully deserved. So in the summer of 07 I signed up at the newsvine site and slowly mingled among the tiny crowd which had gathered there, the news was ok and company pleasent, I mostly kept to myself opineing in from time to time and then checking in for reactions among the people to see the reactions. By November of that year I was prepared to start my own blog, but it was strictly to be designed as an information blog of facts which could and would be denighed amonst only the most evil of persons (little did I foresee the great #'s and powers of this evilness, but that only strenghtened my resolve), I was tinkering with constructing a set of audio speakers which could not be rivaled and thought it solid enough to experiment a start up blog which could at a later date be added to with more relevant subjects, I choose google as the provider of this format but it didn't really matter which avenue I chose, you still had to learn about and work with the tools that were available at that time, they were primitive by todays stds, but primitive was all I needed. So On the 14th of that month I named a blog " The reproduction of natural sound" and set out to document my progress with this venture, (you won't find any of this information or follow up blogs any more because it became quite offensive to the powers that be, so much so they did everything in there power to eliminate it from the cloud so as to not be prosecuted from there own bad behaviors and shortcomings.) But this one included such things as describing these speakers as delivering true sound as if you were in front of an orchestra, each instrument coming from the exact place from which it was derived, live and as real as could be. The year turned and on groundhog day I began a second blog, one which if stumbled upon, would bring great riches to anyone fortunate enough to find it in the form of free transportation, a method by which you could extend the life of your vehicle indefinitely if you started with a new one, and reduce your expenses beyond imagination. Like the first blog i would simply publish my progress and some of how I obtained it. I was able to back up the beginning of this blog and here is most of that. It was titled "Cars, Engines, and what you need to know about them" *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** [There is no doubt that if you want to thrive in the future, you will have to be the best at whatever it is that you do, and cars are no execption. If you can afford to buy a new car every 3 years then this blog is not for you, but if you need a car that will last 20-25 or more years then continue to read on. With the cost of oil continually rising and the cost of repairing cars and engines equally high, the need for a reliable 4 cylindar car will be greater in the future, and here is why. I look around and even in the poorest sections of the country i see almost all new cars, 8 years and newer. What happened to the old ones? If you can keep the body and engine in good health, the rest of the car should be easy enough to maintain even if you are not a mechamic. The body is relatively easy to maintain, first don't hit anything and don't let anything hit you. Once you have bent sheetmetal you have weakened it and that area is subject to early decay, secondly if you are in a salty area you must clean the car every so often or that will increase the rate of decay especially the bottom. With these 2 things in mind you should be able to keep the body of the car intact for many years at a low cost. Next we shall discuss the engine.  The life line of your car is under the hood. Its called an engine. Take a look at any parking lot in america you will see that it has been trashed by engines that leak oil and people who add and spill oil on site. Lets examine the reasons behind that. We know that friction creates heat, and heat breaks down parts. the more heat the faster the breakdown. Heat from friction in an engine comes from the moving parts, the piston rings and the crankshaft bearings. If you want to more about how an engine works click on this link and you can learn more.http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine9.htm Most of todays cars are primarly cooled by water and a radiator, but there is much more we can do to transfer heat away from its source. Back to the rings and bearings, the source of friction and heat. A new gas engine piston will compress the cylinder to maybe 125-150 psi, pounds per square inch, a diesel can reach 500 psi. But if proper lubrication is not applied the friction from the rings will slowly wear the rings outer surface and the compression will leak by the rings and into the crankcase. This can occur very early in the life span of a car, or can be delayed inevitably, here is how to determine the rate of leakdown in your cars engine. This is a simple and effective test, you start the car and open the hood, while the car is running you open the oil cap slow like, because if their is alot of ring leaking, exhuast and oil mist or drops will accompany the fountain of air created by the leakdown. If there is no leakdown then you may see a drop or two of oil slung up by a cam shaft or lifters but no air will accompany the drops. Heat created by crankshaft bearings is also a major source of oil loss. The seals used to contain the oil in the crankcase are subject to heat stress, they are at the ends of the crankshaft which is attached to the piston rod bearings. This is a major source of heat generation, oil passes through this connection to lubricate but nothing is done to cool this connection in 90% of cars on the road today. The other 10% do a thing called "turning the crankshaft" This involves shaving the crankshaft at the rod bearing so that a greater amount of lubricant can pass through the connection creating less heat and extending the life span of the precious seals at the ends of the crankshaft. Here is a simple test to determine if your car has a "turned crankshaft". Not all of you will be able to perform this test because you need a good hill 2000-4000 feet of elevation and a temp. needle on your dashboard, if you do not have a needle but just a light to indicate overheating, you are already behind the eight ball. Start the car and let it warm up good, get to the base of the hill and observe the needle, as you climb the needle will rise and when you come down the hill the needle will fall. If you have a turned crankshaft the needle will not move at all. There is still more we can do to eliminate heat and friction, better lubrication and design. Regular motor oil can not withstand the riggers of todays engines for very long, it boils and breaks down quickly, it thickens in the cold and provides no lubrication when the parts need it most. The oil heats and flows from the friction created by rubbing parts, improper lubrication leads to an early retirement for almost all engines. Here is how to lubricate your engine properly. This is best applied to a new engine because there is no wear on the parts, but can improve the performance and longevity of a used engine. To insure that this is done properly you will have to change the oil yourself or trust a person to do it for you. If you have to add oil regularly this may not be cost effective.    This will strenthen the oil and provide superior lubrication extending the life span of your engine. There is one further thing we can do to exhaust heat from the engine. Most of the heat in an engine is created from the combustion of fuel in the cylinders and is vented through the exhaust. The exhaust manifold is probably the hottest part of the whole engine and heat build up will cause problems for anything located near the exhuast, starters, gaskets, nuts and bolts, ect. So in the design stage we can locate the exhaust manifold where it can be directly vented most efficiently. This is where the 4 cylinder car will out shine its compitition, The v-6 and v-8, whose manifolds can not be manipulated to take full advantage of a cooling source easily. The best method to vent this manifold is to place it in front of the engine where there is plenty of wind to cool it down. Before you is a dismantled oil filter, as I have done since the car was new and I am happy to report that there was not any significant wear associated with the rings or bearings. This is important because it is your only way to determine if the lubricants are working properly and with 73,500 miles on the car it performs exactly as it did the 1st day I drove it. I am in the process of installing an oil pressure gauge, for $43 and tax on $17 of that this,a gauge can tell alot about engine condition for many miles in the future. By watching the gauge closely now when the car is still like new I can head off future problems when the gauge starts to act differently at 2,3,or 4 hundred thousand miles. Its a direct pressure gauge and I taped all fittings to ensure a leak free system. The donut is the part between the filter and block and is where the reading is drawn from. Oil flows from the oil pump to the outside of the filter, then through the paper core and back to the block through the center hole. It then procedes to the crankshaft and camshaft where it returns to the oil pan where it is picked up by the pump again. By splitting the fins of the paper core you can observe any contaminants the core has picked up and if the car is older just do the camshaft cover test mentioned on an eariler post to determine engine wear. If experience is any guide the oil pressure gauge will read about 5 bar or 75 psi when the motor is cold and just started, it should then drop to about 4 bar or 60 psi once the oil has been heated, it could drop to 1 bar at idle depending on the type of filter you have because that is where much of your oil pressure is derived, the rest is the pressure it takes to get the crankshaft and camshaft lubricated. So far the cost per mile is 24.6 cents and the cost per day is $7.30, not including gas and oil, both of these will decrease over time. Greetings folks, This is a story about excess, we were buying 4 cylindar diesel long blocks for $ 100 a piece and taking home heating oil purchased at 69 cents a gallon bulk, and experimenting, soon we were able to jam a motor into a 1982 volkswagen vanagon and put it to the test. And test we did, motor after motor, oil after oil, trailor after trailor,I found a good combination of both. Motor was running good and mileage was impressive too. Another note about fluids, about 4 or 5 years ago there was a hugh sale on complete fuel system cleaners, the black bottle on the left, they were around $3 after coupons and I bought a lot, 12-15 of them. In addition I added a 50/50 mix with marvel mystery oil and with every tank full I add 1.5-2.0 ounces of this mixture. The benefits are numerous, complete cleaning and lubrication of the fuel sender, fuel pump, fuel injectors, not to mention the lubrication and preservation of the valve guide seals, these seals are a costly fix that most people ignore and just burn and add oil as needed. The other note centers around the brake fluid change, my one man bleeder was defective so another approach needed to be tried. I noticed that after replacing the front pads there was no difference in the braking system, only the peace of mind knowing I had fresh pads up front. But when I could not change the fluid I resorted to removing the contanment screen on the reservoir and just siphoned out as much fluid as I could and replaced it with new fluid. Since there is a small amount of circulation in the brake line I figured that over time this method will replace the entire brake fluid system. Now the fun part, when I got back in the car and tested the brakes they worked like better than I remember the car new, and certainly firmer than was the case prior to changing the fluid. So this delay in changing the fluid because I didn't need brakes can result in a major ability to slow the car quickly. I'll be swapping fluid every year now. It can be said that the industry operates on a thin film of lubrication, for if it doesn't, it risks being a casulity of the manufactoring business and the junk yard industry, by using the proper lubricants and cleaners, along with cleaning the engine every 100,000 miles, you can keep an engine in new condition with oil changes at every 20,000 miles rather than 3000 reducing the cost and maintenance of a vehicle greatly over the life span of a car or truck.] *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** By now I was testing my watch verses the blogs posting time for the critical information which was going to be needed for future blogs, it was the summer of 08 and trust was fading fast within my family and my natural timer was about to expire. Also by now I was well aware of his tendencys of forgetfulness and continued bad behavior and denial of it under any and all circumstances, but that wasn't going to prevent me from publishing because I knew we needed a platform to draw from in the future to hold him accountable to his continued bad behavior, and this was going to be it. Everything was setting up good, I had my information and the timers seemed to be aligned on a regular basis. So being fully READY, at 9:09am on 9/09/08 I hit my target exactly and emphasized not only just how long I had been waiting to release my information, (which would be devistating to the higher energy elites, leaders, and collectivists of all industries), but also used a title which was meant to ease them into wanted to read it. But once hooked the news would quickly hit home, It was titled "Cancer, the chase for the cure" but once inside it would be revealed that there was no cure, and that the worst forms of cancer were NOT INHERITED, but rather behavioral, and not cured but only treated at a great cost to both the patient and society at large. I was not able to retrieve this information but it's safe to say it had the exact effect I had wanted it to and really didn't expect to him react as he did. It was already a tense time in politics, the high interest 30 year E-bonds were beginning to come due, and we were going through another political cycle, it was already going to be a make or break situation financially and now this was tossed into the mix, and suddenly a week later the shit began to hit the fan with Lehman and shortly afterwards Paulson getting on his knees stating to the congress that decisive action had be taken in order to save the nasty promises of the past. I had gained some respect by now over at the newsvine and walked and talked our group through the perceived crisis not indicating that I had aided in create it and by mid oct explain to the crowd I needed a larger forum to continue my endevers, we were about a thousand strong at that time and I told them they could find me over at this new place. I had quietly join the abc forum having had previous strong ties with Ted and Peter the past two decades but did not find them there. Instead some of my elder in laws were controlling the conversation with their abilities to physcially talk over the heads of many without much resistance, I helped by agreeing more often than not increasing our little share of controling the masses intellectually. In addition with my free time I had begun to play some poker over at yahoo and was mingling with a smaller group who eventually became very paranoid at the possibility of losing their power physcially. Again I had gained respect among many but the few had reservations of letting it get any farther and around the beginning of 09 I reconized my Uncle earl who was experiencing the same situation. He said he had established a place and was having some difficulties with a few over there and wanted to see what I could do for him, I agreed and by the spring of that year began checking in. It was a sophiscated financial blog and I quickly found suzi influencing many but shortly after that reconized my cousin, he could simply talk people into financial submission and suzi was greatly disturbed by this method of communication and wanted to keep a distance between the two of them for she could not afford be culled into submission at any cost. He was mostly a morning person and I sat around for a good while just examining the mulitude of individuals gathered there. Then one day a few months later I noticed the derivatives mkt had dropped some $41 trillion in just 24 hrs and decided to make my entrance with a link to that. It worked, there was no resistance and I began to slowly mingle with these new more sophiscated individuals. Suzi was obnoxious, greedy and arrogant so I began to set her up, I knew I didn't have the talent to talk people into submission like my cousin, I was going to need beat people into submission and this required a different approach, I sweet talked the crowd hoping to jump at the right time, there were some interesting tools to work with over here and I intended to use them all to my advantage. I had gained some power with the yahoo folks but after getting control of the boot and seeing the fear in the eyes of the few who briefly lost power I decided to dump those backwoods country yahoos and concentrate my energys over at earls place. Suzi had taken a liking to me, and I knew her well enough to know just where it was going to hurt the most, she had plenty of others but the control freak in her went so far as to even exclude them from this club, and I could tell she was completely and utterly alone here, she just loved her power and was lonely to boot. She started flurting with me one day and I was loaded for bear and ready to lure her into my trap, it was harmless enough to the unsuspecting but deep inside I knew this was going to be heartbreaking and so I sung her into some blue swede shoes and low and behold, it worked, she stopped her regular abusiveness for quite a while. But a couple weeks later meekly returned with the same name, but with much less force, this time it was more programmed ignorance than anything and so i knew it was her derivatives having finally got hold of her location and computer and the strenght to butt in where they obviously didn't belong but the revenge factor kicking in and taking control. This bunch had stored up more pain and I knew exactly who they were and why they were so mad. My cousin, (unfortunately on his way out), had the presence of mind to bust the elements he knew to be weak of mind but then also gave the law the leverage they needed to pursue a wrongful tact against all who came into contact with them, and they began to pursue and become predators to anyone who came into contact with me, (A move which would comfort them, but be just as fatal in the end as was suzi's demise)[I was to coy to be fooled by todays law and had the laws of nature on my side to use at my will]. We wrestled control of earls place by mid 2010 but he had another war on his hands and linked me up with that place, when i got there (Zero Hedge) I had never seen such widespread insanity and really didn't know what to make of the place or how approach it, it was an internet insane asylum if i'd ever sen one, and it took me a year of just observation and examination to gather the ways and means to enter this house of ill repute, and i knew it could never be fully reformed because of my extensive knowledge of the evils of human behavior and the law of numbers. If ever there was a place where evil was derived and thrived, it was here, the competition for insanity was alive and well,(and it would take a God they don't believe in to eliminate this house), but so was my ability to beat people into submission, if only one at a time. But there were so many devils running around loosely I knew I could only make a small dent with these problems at hand, but also knew time was not on their side when it came to things they didn't understand or believe in, my family was like minded so i had plenty of experience with the denial of others but the numbers were overwhelming in this case. So I made up a name and registered and began to mingle, little did I realize the popularity I would eventually garner, and i learned a lot about just how misbehaved and greedy people could become, this would serve me well in my next life time because I could always use this experience against the same type of people who would'nt have accumulated the power to be so destructive because of their new circumstances and their handy caps of checks and balances. So basically I became a decoy to hide in plain site as time ran out on the most evil of human behaviors which mankind has seen in many, many years. I gave it my all knowing I still had all to give to the future, but the future did not have all the tools required to commit the damage it had wrought in the past. This does not mean we have created instant success, there is still much to be done, but at least the queen(s) will not be scared to death of his collective mind and the constitutional convention should equal the playing field, and they are telling me we are at a place we have not been to, possible ever in history of the universe so this bodes well for her chances of success and humanity in general. The plan would be for him to rebuild the place, and then eliminate him so she can comfortably manage that which he sponaniously left behind while using a more prudently designed (infrustructure) to aid humans in general. So basically it's time to be scared, you have no more time to debate, study, prepare or denigh your false beliefs. Once you become the predator (and you know who you are), you open the door of evil and eventually become a willing victim, when you don't make it fair for everyone, (and you know who you are) someone comes around to make it unfair for you, did you think Providence would simply go away? Not demand and create it's own fair shake? One without you, you are wrong again, a God you don't believe in suddenly has a job to do and you are not going to be a part of this plan, you are going to pay the consequences for your bad behavior in the past, for that is all there is left to be paid. So Later zero hedge dwellers, much later, your motto has come home to roost in your own nest, mine has gone on to feather another one.  
Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:39 | 6812524 Recidivism
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So long and so long

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:39 | 6812525 Brazen Heist
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U leaving?

Hopefully not off for 72 virgins

/sarc off

All the best with your new venture...

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:41 | 6812527 Wahooo
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You trolled some folks.

Bye.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:44 | 6812533 Supernova Born
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tl-dr

Wall of Text.

Edit and resubmit.

The greatest hope of the overwhelmed student (just grade the f'in thing) is denied.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:58 | 6812548 buzzsaw99
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it looks like someone forgot to take their meds today

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:21 | 6812590 Seasmoke
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I will miss the pumpkin face following me around. Only wish I knew what you meant 98% of the time. Also If I remember correctly, i heard of you Negative Rates before I heard of NIRP. So kudos.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:23 | 6812604 Monetas
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Learn how to spell .... loser ?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:48 | 6812663 RaceToTheBottom
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The alien spaceship has arrived and is waiting for you....

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:14 | 6812708 Monetas
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The exhaust manifold should not be in front of the engine .... the heat will flow over the engine .... my KIA Soul has the exhaust maniforld behind the engine (there is plenty of air flow) ---- and the heat never passes over the motor .... if you can't understand this .... your thinking is flawed .... it doesn't really matter how hot the exhaust maniforld is .... it has no moving parts and can take the heat .... and a hot exhaust has pollution system benefits ?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:47 | 6812811 MoHillbilly
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See what happens when you legalize pot

 

P.S.   Unless you are able to completely re-tool a motor ( new intake, carb , distributor etc..)  you are not doing any serious work on cars without a scan tool and software

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:43 | 6812815 shovelhead
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Whatever happened to "Later dude"?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 11:45 | 6813385 yellowsub
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Don't drink the Kool-aid!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:52 | 6815335 Zapporius
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srsly?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:45 | 6812531 Supernova Born
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ISIS is doing a suicide by cop.

Outlived its usefulness apparently.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 07:55 | 6812544 atthelake
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Putin knows isis is an American creation. What will happen when Russia and China decide to act on that knowledge? 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:06 | 6812560 Monetas
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Monetas Stone Translation:  Johan (John) ..... Grimsgaard (was killed by the Grim Reaper) .... Ofstad (when he wandered into the wrong city) ?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:16 | 6812587 ThrowAwayYourTV
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So tired of these Illiterate Pedophile Murdering Ass wiping with a stone Caveman Bearded Salesman followers.

Do us all a favor China and erase them from planet eart.

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 08:30 | 6812620 Monetas
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They pick their noses, hold their pee pee's, cut throats, shake hands and eat .... with their right hand .... hand #1 .... the pee pee hand .... they wipe their asses .... with their left hand .... hand # 2 .... the poo poo hand ?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:11 | 6812720 Quinvarius
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So Soros didn't lift a finger to buy freedom for them?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:42 | 6812736 Chris Dakota
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maybe this is all fake and the nations are in agreement to start WWlll to cull the herd

and get rid of warriors.

really, they would do something like this, none of them are nice guys they just play nice

guys on TV sometimes.

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:27 | 6812764 damicol
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Has anyone checked the CIA and also for Nulands fingerprints.

So many false flags and everyone knows the state dept cocksuckers are itching to get deep down and dirty with the Chinese
Wouldnt be too difficult to stage this in hollywood with a couple of jew boy directors .

Anyone know if they got any news of the 4 missing mossad agents at the Paris slaughter

As an absolute minimum of 11 were needed to to be at all places at the times things happened and they claimed just 7

Unless ISIS have a teleportation machine

Maybe someone should quiz CIA on that as they trained and armed them

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:52 | 6812838 shovelhead
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"Sir, sattelite images confirm that there is a line of sampans from India to the Red Sea...We think they're Chinese."

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:54 | 6812841 roadhazard
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I'd like to see how the Chinese operate in battle conditions. I'll bet the Pentagon would too.

 

The moar the Merrier.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 10:16 | 6812923 me or you
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Well! Ladies and gentlemen another one joining the war on ISIS. WWIII is running faster than wild fire.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 11:24 | 6813269 fabio massimo
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https://reason.com/archives/2015/10/03/syria-chinese-uyghurs-killing-rus...

so as written before no trust what china president says

they are already very involved

is all a big game

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 12:47 | 6813674 Winston Smith 2009
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ISIS' recently stated goal is to incite every country to hate Muslims which can then result in bad treatment of Muslims outside of the Middle East which will then, ISIS hopes, incite terrorist acts by those Muslims within other countries. Looks like they've suckered China into this now.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:22 | 6814964 Radical Marijuana
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Yes, Winston, and thereby ISIS's "useful idiots" have been suckered into advancing the agenda of the international banksters, which will probably be eventually punctuated by enough weapons of mass destruction to create the greatest historical discontinuity there has ever yet been.

Many articles on Zero Hedge have discussed the possible historical roles that China may or may not be playing in advancing the international banksters' global agenda. The bottom line is that there now exist globalized systems of electronic frauds, backed the threat of the force of atomic bombs, which are trillions of times GREATER than the previous systems of paper frauds, backed by gunpowder weapons ... while that situation is deliberately being ignored and discounted by the vast majority of people, whose common sense view of the world is based upon nothing but the extreme large numbers found in chemical energy events.

China has been "modernized" to become integrated into the currently existing systems of MAD Money As Debt, backed by MAD Mutual Assured Destruction, the combined MADNESS of which has become trillions of times more criminally insane than anything which previously existed in human history.

http://www.alternet.org/world/vladimir-putin-reveals-isis-funded-40-coun...

Vladimir Putin Reveals That ISIS Is Funded by 40 Countries — Including G20 Members

ISIS was deliberately driven to develop by the international banksters, although I doubt that many people involved inside of that situation are aware of that. After all, the apparent end-game of that strategy is to deliberately drive conditions to deteriorate sufficiently that it will become possible to start using weapons of mass destruction, in order to mass murder hundreds of millions, if not billions of people.

Of course, China is NOT able to stay out of geopolitical events. NOBODY CAN! Rather, we are ALL more and more tangled up in the systems of globalized electronic frauds, backed by the threat of force from atomic weapons, which systems are trillions of times more criminally insane than can be fully comprehended or imagined.

P.S.

My comment below attempts to skim across the deeper reasons for how and why this is happening, and then, propose theoretical responses which would be appropriate ... Of course, I do NOT expect such political science fiction to actually happen, other than in its most dystopian manifestations.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:54 | 6814893 Radical Marijuana
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"China can hardly avoid participating in what is certain to be another geopolitical showdown, even if one where the proxy enemy is a terrorist organization which seemingly the entire world is trying to eradicate and yet nobody has been able to for years."

"Seemingly" indeed!

THE RELEVANT

BACKGROUND:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4

All Wars Are Bankers’ Wars

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/making_the_world_safe_for_banksters_syria_in_the_cross-hairs_20130905/

Making the World Safe for Banksters: Syria In the Cross-hairs

By Ellen Brown, September 5, 2013.

… Forty percent of banks globally are publicly-owned. They are largely in the BRIC countries—Brazil, Russia, India and China—which house forty percent of the global population. They also escaped the 2008 credit crisis, but they at least made a show of conforming to Western banking rules. This was not true of the “rogue” Islamic nations, where usury was forbidden by Islamic teaching. To make the world safe for usury, these rogue states had to be silenced by other means. Having failed to succumb to economic coercion, they wound up in the crosshairs of the powerful US military. …

WTO members were induced to sign the agreement by threatening their access to global markets if they refused;  … That was the fate of countries in the WTO … those that were not in that organization at all, including Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran ... These seven countries were named by U.S. General Wesley Clark (Ret.) in a 2007 “Democracy Now” interview as the new “rogue states” being targeted for take down after September 11, 2001. He said that about 10 days after 9-11, he was told by a general that the decision had been made to go to war with Iraq. Later, the same general said they planned to take out seven countries in five years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.

What did these countries have in common? Besides being Islamic, they were not members either of the WTO or of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS). That left them outside the long regulatory arm of the central bankers’ central bank in Switzerland. Other countries later identified as “rogue states” that were also not members of the BIS included North Korea, Cuba, and Afghanistan.

The body regulating banks today is called the Financial Stability Board (FSB), and it is housed in the BIS in Switzerland. In 2009, the heads of the G20 nations agreed to be bound by rules imposed by the FSB, ostensibly to prevent another global banking crisis. Its regulations are not merely advisory but are binding, and they can make or break not just banks but whole nations. … Among other game-changing regulations in play under the FSB are Basel III and the new bail-in rules. Basel III is slated to impose crippling capital requirements on public, cooperative and community banks, coercing their sale to large multinational banks. …

Countries laboring under the yoke of an extractive private banking system are being forced into “structural adjustment” and austerity by their unrepayable debt. But some countries have managed to escape. In the Middle East, these are the targeted “rogue nations.” Their state-owned banks can issue the credit of the state on behalf of the state, leveraging public funds for public use without paying a massive tribute to private middlemen. Generous state funding allows them to provide generously for their people.

Like Libya and Iraq before they were embroiled in war, Syria provides free education at all levels and free medical care. It also provides subsidized housing for everyone (although some of this has been compromised by adoption of an IMF structural adjustment program in 2006 and the presence of about 2 million Iraqi and Palestinian refugees). Iran too provides nearly free higher education and primary health care.

Like Libya and Iraq before takedown, Syria and Iran have state-owned central banks that issue the national currency and are under government control. Whether these countries will succeed in maintaining their financial sovereignty in the face of enormous economic, political and military pressure remains to be seen. …

??? … remains to be seen … ???

There are no good grounds to doubt that the whole world has become embroiled in runaway criminal insanities, such that there will be NO countries which "will succeed in maintaining their financial sovereignty!"

It is looking at things in absurdly backward ways to fail to perceive that NATO countries are already controlled by the biggest financial terrorists, the best organized gangsters, the banksters. Furthermore, understanding the degree to which we are living inside of a Wonderland Matrix Bizarro World, where everything appears as absurdly backwards, goes far beyond merely "seemingly."

My comments posted under the following article were another attempt to articulate what should happen after one assimilates enough of the apparent anomalies that demonstrate that governments are necessarily the biggest forms of terrorism, controlled by the best organized terrorists, in order to finally go through sufficient profound PARADIGM SHIFTS:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-18/if-we-want-stop-terrorism-we-should-stop-supporting-terrorists

If We Want To Stop Terrorism, We Should Stop SUPPORTING Terrorists

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