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The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking

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The question of how the Islamic State funds its sprawling caliphate has been discussed in the past: we first broke down the primary driver of ISIS revenue well over a year ago, in September 2014, when we explained that "ISIS uses oil wealth to help finance its terror operations."

Daily Signal's Kelsey Harkness explained the breakdown as follows:

According to the Iraq Energy Institute, an independent, nonprofit policy organization focused on Iraq’s energy sector, the army of radical Islamists controls production of 30,000 barrels of oil a day in Iraq and 50,000 barrels in Syria. By selling the oil on the black market at a discounted price of $40 per barrel (compared to about $93 per barrel in the free market), ISIS takes in $3.2 million a day.

 

The oil revenue, which amounts to nearly $100 million each month, allows ISIS to fund its military and terrorist attacks — and to attract more recruits from around the world, including America.

Most importantly, we added that to be successful in counterterrorism efforts, "the U.S. and its allies must “push the Islamic State out of the oil fields it has captured and disrupt its ability to smuggle the oil to foreign markets."

None of this was surprising to anyone, but what was quite surprising is that it took the allied forces over a year to take the oil revenue threat seriously and begin targeting the Islamic State's oil infrastructure in earnest.

Today, in an article titled "Why US Efforts to Cut Off Islamic State's Funds Have Failed" Bloomberg tries to explain just how it is that despite a more than a year long campaign, ISIS funding remains as strong as ever, and notes that "the latest round of airstrikes are directly related to the administration’s new math. “You have to go after the oil, and you have to do it in a serious way, and we’ve just begun to do that now,” citing Benjamin Bahney, an international policy analyst at the Rand Corp., a U.S. Department of Defense-funded think tank.

To be sure, there are other sources of revenue: Bloomberg correctly notes that "even if the U.S. finally weakens the group’s oil income, Bahney and other analysts in the U.S., the Middle East, and Europe contend, Islamic State has resources beyond crude—from selling sex slaves to ransoming hostages to plundering stolen farmland—that can likely keep it fighting for years."

Still, without a doubt, the dominant source of funds for the terrorists is oil, and not just oil, but a well-greased logistical machine that keeps thousands of barrels moving from unknown pumps to even refineries, and ultimately to smugglers who operated out of Turkey and other countries.

Here is Bloomberg:

Most often refined in Syria, the group’s oil is trucked to cities such as Mosul to provide people living under its black banner with fuel for generators and other basic needs. It’s also used to power the war machine. “They have quite an organized supply chain running fuel into Iraq and [throughout] the ‘caliphate,’ ” says Michael Knights, an Iraq expert at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, using the militant group’s religiously loaded term for itself. Because the U.S. apparently believed the real money for Islamic State came primarily via selling refined oil, rather than crude, last year’s strikes heavily targeted refineries and storage depots, says Bahney. He and other experts say that strategy missed an important shift: Militants increasingly sell raw crude to truckers and middlemen, rather than refining it themselves. So while Islamic State probably maintains some refining capacity, the majority of the oil in IS territory is refined by locals who operate thousands of rudimentary, roadside furnaces that dot the Syrian desert.

Here is where it gets interesting: Bloomberg cites Pentagon officials who acknowledge "that for more than a year they avoided striking tanker trucks to limit civilian casualties. None of these guys are ISIS. We don’t feel right vaporizing them, so we have been watching ISIS oil flowing around for a year,” says Knights. That changed on Nov. 16, when four U.S. attack planes and two gunships destroyed 116 oil trucks.

So any qualms about vaporizing "innocent civilians" promptly disappeared when the Pentagon realized that its 1+ year long campaign had been an epic debacle, that a suddenly surging ISIS was stronger as ever, and most importantly, that its critical revenue lifelines had been largely untouched for years. Perhaps they weren't innocent civilians after all.

It is still unknown if this recent crackdown on "dumping oil", or crude which dramatically lowers the price of oil in global markets - it certainly is an odd coincidence that the price of Brent and WTI began its tumble last fall, just when the Islamic State made its dramatic appearance on the world scene - will have an effect and cut off the primary source of funds to ISIS.

But what we have been wondering for months and what we hope some enterprising journalist will soon answer, is just who are the commodity trading firms that have been so generously buying millions of smuggled oil barrels procured by the Islamic State at massive discounts to market, and then reselling them to other interested parties.

In other words, who are the middlemen.

What we do know is who they may be: they are the same names that were quite prominent in the market in September when Glencore had its first, and certainly not last, near death experience: the Glencores, the Vitols, the Trafiguras, the Nobels, the Mercurias of the world.

To be sure, funding terrorist states is not something that some of the most prominent names in the list above have shied away from in the past.

Which one (or ones) are the guilty parties - those who have openly breached terrorism funding laws - we don't know: it may be one, or more of the above, or someone totally different.

At this point, however, three things are certain: whoever the commodity trading house may be that is paying ISIS-affiliated "innocent civilians" hundreds of millions of dollars for their products, they are perfect aware just who the source of this deeply discounted crude is. Crude so deeply discounted, in fact, it results in massive profits for the enterprising middleman who are engaging in openly criminal transactions.

The second certainty: whoever said middleman is, it is very well known to US intelligence services such as the NSA and CIA, and thus to the Pentagon, and thus, the US government.

The third certainty is that while the US, and Russia, and now France, are all very theatrically bombing something in the Syrian desert (nobody really knows what), the funding of ISIS continues unabated as someone keeps buying ISIS oil.

We wonder how long until someone finally asks the all important question regarding the Islamic State: who is the commodity trader breaching every known law of funding terrorism when buying ISIS crude, almost certainly with the tacit approval by various "western alliance" governments, and why is it that these governments have allowed said middleman to continue funding ISIS for as long as it has?

 

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Fri, 11/20/2015 - 01:42 | 6816628 813kml
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Please wait till after Thanksgiving.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:47 | 6814871 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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This must be what Putin meant when he said that some g-20 countries were helping funding ISIS.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:37 | 6815061 Radical Marijuana
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http://www.alternet.org/world/vladimir-putin-reveals-isis-funded-40-coun...

Vladimir Putin Reveals That ISIS Is Funded by 40 Countries — Including G20 Members

Yes, SOS, and I REPEAT:

My comments posted under the following article were another attempt to articulate what should happen after one assimilates enough of the apparent anomalies that demonstrate that governments are necessarily the biggest forms of terrorism, controlled by the best organized terrorists, in order to finally go through sufficient profound PARADIGM SHIFTS:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-18/if-we-want-stop-terrorism-we-should-stop-supporting-terrorists

If We Want To Stop Terrorism, We Should Stop SUPPORTING Terrorists

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:42 | 6815074 sgt_doom
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Well, fuck yeah, RM, I mean everyone in Amerika who isn't a complete moronic douchetard knows that money and guns flowed from the US gov't through the CIA and Unocal to the Taliban and al Qaeda, and we had 9/11!

And now money and guns flowed to al Qaeda in Syria (referred to in FOIA'd documents from the DIA as "Salafists") and then we have ISIS and terrorist murders in Paris.

Look to those money/gun flows and ID the source, and you have the terrorists:

Wall Street and the gov't they own.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:21 | 6815473 11b40
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 And that is the real story of Benghazi.

Not even the various House Committees that have been "investigating" Hitlery for years will even bring this up.  No truly relevant questions get asked, by either side.  Millions of taxpayer dollars and tons man hours wasted so these preening little political pricks can get free campaign air time for their puffery.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 20:32 | 6815775 DaddyO
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That's because no MSM or paid for politico will say that Benghazi is the Dems and more specifically Obama's IranContra moment...

DaddyO

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 20:19 | 6815732 Radical Marijuana
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Indeed so,

"fuck yeah,

... Wall street and the gov't they own!"

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:43 | 6815298 Kirk2NCC1701
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Speaking of supporting or treating terrorists, "The Other" awkward question of the year is:

"Why TF is DAESH/ISIS not attacking its ultimate enemy - Israel, that is running CB's around the world, and US Foreign Policy? Why?"

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 23:46 | 6815754 Radical Marijuana
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As you already know, because the international banksters have Israel as the fortified club house for their "big club," as George Carlin stated, when those observations are projected out from domestic policy to foreign affairs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jQT7_rVxAE

George Carlin on American Owners ...

 

As above, so below.

As within, so without!

The lies are different at every level, but the same fractal patterns of organized crime repeat themselves over and over again at different levels. Lesser levels of organized crime tend to be controlled by greater levels of organized crime. Hence, the abundance of information which can be the data points, to connect those dots that the Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire has been covertly promoting false flag enemies, in order to be able to justify and rationalize advancing an agenda. That is the main way to make sense out of the overwhelming numbers of anomalies, which have piled up to become mountains of absurdly backward manifestations of foreign policies, that most mainstream morons continue to apply Hanlon's Razor to, by presuming that those are the result of incompetent stupidities.

The apparent incompetent stupidities may well be correct with respect to the banksters' political puppets, and enough of the muppets that vote for them. However, the standard superficial views that the increasingly severe "blowback" was somehow a mistake does not stand up to deeper analysis, which indicates how and why the most psychotic psychopaths are controlling civilization, in ways whereby most people only perceive the lower levels of those psychotic psychopaths, such as put on display by some of the actions of ISIS, but which are trumped by more covert psychotic psychopaths that are controlling NATO, that most people do not perceive, since it is quite difficult and dangerous to do so!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 20:38 | 6815798 DaddyO
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Even morons in the desert know not to bite the hand that feeds them...

DaddyO

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 23:10 | 6816258 lakecity55
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Uh, how can Israel attack itself? Are they suicidal, you mean?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 21:57 | 6816044 DavidPierre
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RM:

ISIS should start growing the 'Herb'... that might mellow them out.

http://www.cbc.ca/22minutes/videos/clips-season-23/marijuana-party

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 23:09 | 6816251 lakecity55
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Oh, great. Some stoner goat-fucker.

"Like, dude, this is a bad vibe, but I gotta like, cut off your head, man."

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 23:42 | 6816330 Radical Marijuana
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LOL,

lake!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins

Assassins

The Assassins is the name used to refer to the Nizari, particularly those of Persia and Syria. ... The name "Assassin" is often said to derive from the Arabic word Hashishin or "users of hashish."

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 23:05 | 6816238 lakecity55
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Yes, but I have done a lot of travel for .politburo.

I have never seen Russia, India, and so on Terrizing their citizens, China is the dirtiest shirt there, but even they are not droning their own people or wedding parties that I know of.

Only the USSA and Europa.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:47 | 6814874 Herd Redirectio...
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Some things just will never be allowed to see the light of day.

One is admitting that the financial markets have been propped up.

Another is that ISIS has been nurtured and groomed (let alone financed and trained) by 'the West + Israel'.

I'm sure there are more.  Hell, JFK was assassinated more than 50 years ago and we still 'think' he was killed by a lone nut, in a book depository.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:09 | 6814969 madmax1965
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HD,

Wait, whut!  Yeah, I thought it was a lone shooter with a piece of shit bolt action rifle and he learned to shoot in the Marines!

 

11/22/1963 - the date this country was sold down the river!  (for good that is!)  1913 was a pretty bad year as well!

 

END THE FED! 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 21:12 | 6815908 Jack Oliver
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We didn't have the internet then and George Orwell never envisioned it ! Things have changed !

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 23:02 | 6816225 lakecity55
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+ Saudis.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:49 | 6814886 Captain Willard
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Wedding caterers are fair game.

Truck drivers are untouchable.

You can't make this stuff up folks.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:57 | 6814917 cowdiddly
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or volunteer doctors, But truckdrivers? What you nuts? Why thats a prestige job in the desert mon.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:56 | 6814915 All Out Of Bubblegum
Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:09 | 6814970 Herd Redirectio...
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Whats next, you will ask me to believe it wasn't the Czar's secret police that manufactured the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'? 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:13 | 6814989 All Out Of Bubblegum
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> the Czar's secret police

 

They weren't so secret. Hell, this guy might've written them:

 

https://archive.org/details/TheSecretWorldGovernmentOrHiddenHand

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 21:43 | 6816001 conscious being
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Interesting. Thanks.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 11:23 | 6817748 gonetogalt
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All Out Of Bubblegum

I downloaded the book, thanks for linking.

It will end up on a flashdrive against the day the internet dies.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 23:00 | 6816221 lakecity55
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"Goldberg's Kosher Deli and Gas."

"It's a great little place, and there's only one--
Goldberg's down on Highway 61."

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:58 | 6814925 SmedleyButlersGhost
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who is the commodity trader breaching every known law of funding terrorism when buying ISIS crude,

OK - just to show I've been paying attention - i'm going to guess an arm of Goldman Sucks

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:01 | 6814935 Squid-puppets a...
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oh good - with oil storage facilities full that'll have to keep its tentacles occupied

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:38 | 6815063 Winston Churchill
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Smuggling is just the purest,and most proftable ,form of Arbitrage.

Whats with the anti capitalism ?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:58 | 6814926 Bob
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Technically, didn't Putin ask that very question in his UN speech?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:48 | 6815098 sgt_doom
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I think he said he didn't want any help from the US military in Syria as the USA is fully compromised by its relationship with Saudi Arabia?

Majority of hijackers on 9/11:  Saudi Arabians

Majority of foreign fighters in Taliban:  Saudi Arabians

Majority nationality in al Qaeda:  Saudi Arabians

Major block of people to join ISIS in Syria:  Saudi Arabians

28-redacted pages from 9/11 Commission Report which neither Bush nor Obama will allow the US public to read is concerned with:  Saudi Arabians

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:58 | 6814927 yomutti
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THis is wackoism of course. 80,000 barrels per day is local consumption in Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc. Thtere is no need to get the civilized world involved to move such a small quantity of oil.

 

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:04 | 6814929 frankly scarlet
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and the answer is Bilal Erdogan, son of Recep, is the agent for smuggled ISIL oil to the world markets-mostly western Europe.  So what do I win  for giving the correct answer to this apparently all important question....first prize is an all expense 1 week paid vaation to Raqqa, second prize is a 2 week.....

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:31 | 6815251 Good bi bull
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Please be him....i would laugh my tits off

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 05:11 | 6816875 hunkerdown
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Oh is that why he went and set up shop in Italy?  I had figured he was just traveling ahead in case good old dad lost the election and needed helicoptered out.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:00 | 6814932 ghostzapper
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Vlad just pounded a bunch of those oil carriers and the facilities used to conduct these ops.

Part of why I have been saying that literally (literally, seriously) the Banksters are all hands on deck to prop up this pile of dog shot known as the price of crude.  

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:02 | 6814941 ghostzapper
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MOSCOW, November 18. /TASS/. Russian warplanes in Syria have begun hunting for Islamic State’s tanker trucks carrying crude oil and petroleum products, the chief of the main operations directorate of Russia’s General Staff, Colonel-General Andrey Kartapolov told a news briefing on Wednesday.”I would like to point out that a decision has been made to let Russian planes fly sorties to search for tanker trucks carrying petroleum products belonging to terrorists in areas controlled by the organization calling itself the Islamic State (outlawed in Russia),” Kartapolov said.According to the official, Russian warplanes have destroyed about 500 fuel tank trucks that were illegally transporting oil from Syria to Iraq for refining.

 

“Over the past years, the Islamic State and other extremist groupings have streamlined the operations of the so-called ‘pipeline on the road’ in the areas under their control,” Gen Kartapolov said.

Hundreds of fuel tank trucks are delivering thousands of tons of crude oil for refining to Iraq and the fuel they sell then is one of the main sources of their financing.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:25 | 6814974 Bob
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Interesting and weird.  What is it about Russian society that moves tass to note "(outlawed in Russia)" in what is a "news" story?

http://tass.ru/en/defense/837584

We are left to wonder wtf took so long with the bombing, of course.  Those truck convoys to Turkey stretched for tens of miles, bumper to bumper.  I could hit something ten miles long from here. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:55 | 6815120 Onan_the_Barbarian
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Probably giving the CIA guys a heads-up to avoid riding with the convoys.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 11:29 | 6817772 gonetogalt
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Note that Russia is bombing Iraq bound convoys while US et al bombed Turkey bound conveys reportedly unable to move before capture by Assad forces...

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:53 | 6815635 Kirk2NCC1701
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Misters Yellen, Bankfine and Mr. Nuttynyahoo will be pissed.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 23:07 | 6816199 lakecity55
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Ho Ho, I like the way Ivan always says "....The Organization calling itself the Islamic statetm, outlawed in Russia."

It's like taking a stick and poking the Daesh Goat-humpers.

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:01 | 6814938 One of We
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My guess is someone like Leo Wanta is the middleman.....

http://www.rense.com/general70/leo.htm

 

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:02 | 6814942 Downtoolong
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I’m betting there is more than one intermediary company doing it, and it wouldn’t surprise me in the least of an Israeli trader/entrepreneur is among the top ten.   

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:29 | 6815247 Ms No
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.."among the top ten".  Your being generous.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:04 | 6814953 falak pema
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The greatest fall out of this mega turnaround that ISIS psychosis has created is the defining moment when financial globalization will come to an end.

And that spells the death knell of FED's hold on the reserve greenback.

Unintended consequences...

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:12 | 6814985 Bob
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Can you expand on that, falak pema?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:26 | 6815010 falak pema
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Behind the current ideological standoff lies the economic standoff :

1° Weak Oil prices will continue.

2° The creditor nations will have slow growth.

3° The Arab nations will not only be less stable but poorer.

4° The offshore economies of 1% wealth will shrink and the Casino suffer the lack of surplus wealth; from China, Arabia AND Chindia.

5° Military spending will sky rocket making the spare wealth for true economic growth go dry.

All this means that the Reserve will lose its capacity to be Swing financial decision maker.

And Debt iceberg will hit the Titanic.

Unless we have all out war; which Obama and all others abhor!

China will become the big winner in the reset. And the world will move to multicentric age with Asia rising.

Hard times for west. Until we find a new energy paradigm the world trade on current lines will shrink; for all the reasons above.

ISIS will die as its just the shadow proxy army of Dead Saddam's and Saud's Sunni dream. Now being marginalised by Shia Iran rising, a more reasonable state and more progressive.

Neo-con America will be the big loser as an Habsburgian imperial construct on which the sun will gradually set. And trying to flog a dead horse will not bring it alive !

When we do find a new paradigm the west will revive.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:27 | 6815027 Chuckster
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I think you are mosty right.  I think China followed Japan over the cliff.  Over production with no reqard to how the world would absorb all of it.  They will collapse just like Japan and it is going to be a hell of a bang.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:33 | 6815043 falak pema
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Globalization on a non financial basis will have a future but not this US hubristic  wealth inequality construct that has killed capitalism.

We will move to something different. Its part of the paradigm reset.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:46 | 6815087 Jethro
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And how do you cope with diminished resources in an overpopulated country? War, I think. China has surplus people now that their economy has gone to shit.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:38 | 6815039 Bob
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Nice chronological list.  Check, check, check.  In the big picture. 

Very Big Picture.  Thanks. 

The realm of potential realities is like a lava lamp to me.  There are so many and such ever-changing ways for them to cash out of the strip-mined debt slave world and move on beyond the $.  Wasn't sure which way you were seeing it.  The death of the $ part is a given in every one.  These fuckers are like a locust plague upon humanity itself. 

It's the granular details that are gonna hurt real bad for everyone except the .1%., methinks.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 22:48 | 6816174 lakecity55
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By ideological you mean Globalism vs. Nationalism, right?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:23 | 6815016 Chuckster
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I second the motion.  I think he is dead on.  He needs to explain how he got there.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 22:40 | 6816156 lakecity55
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Yes, elucidate, por favor.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:05 | 6814959 Himins
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Well it was the last day of the season and I finally saw a big ole antler in my cross hairs. So I squeezed one off and popped his skull all over the back bonnet of a 63 Lincoln town car!
I waited for it to settle down and when I got to the carnage, there were 3 dead buck all stacked like cord wood.
Well I loaded them on my station wagon and proceeded to the ranger station to register my buck and the ranger asked me to give him the other 2 dear tags.
I only have the one, I said...only took one shot. "bullshit": he said, that's impossible, produce the other 2 tags or I take your deer and the gun too!.
What do you mean impossible? I was sitting on that 3rd story balcony and saw this buck on a dead run. I popped one off and shot him square in the head, the other 2 died from the same bullet. Are you going to tell me it cant be done? It happened in Huston Texas 1963. One bullet shot our president right in the skull cap, and magically drove itself around the cab and struck 2 other passengers. They would have bled to death too but for our emergency crew on stand by...200 million Americans can't be wrong. Even the government said folks who don't believe the official narrative are wacked out nut job conspiracy theorists.
Yer not one of THEM are you?
So anyway mom, that's why I'm calling you collect.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:00 | 6815129 Chuckster
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Clever

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 20:16 | 6815723 Himins
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It was a shame that bullet wandered off like that. Had it wandered around inside that buck instead, it would have been gutted, cleaned and quartered by the time I arrived

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:07 | 6814961 divide_by_zero
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When in doubt, the answer is usually Soros.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:07 | 6814963 Bernard_2011
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While Zero Hedge is absolutely right about identifying who is buying the ISIS oil, the main issue is that none of this oil should be PRODUCED to begin with.  

 

All of the oil production should have been destroyed a long time ago, but Obama has deliberately avoided this.  ISIS is reaping $500 million per year in oil revenue.  How much of that could they use to develop chemical/biological weapons?  

 

ISIS was still operating 161 out of 253 oilfields, as per this Oct. 25th article:

http://www.businessinsider.com/isis-making-50-million-a-month-from-oil-s...

 

As far as I'm concerned, Obama's very deliberate non-action against all of the oilfields is very close to treasonous.  

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:36 | 6815055 PoasterToaster
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BEEP BOOP BLAME OBAMA BEEP

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:00 | 6815374 FixItAgainTony
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At least somebody is getting their infrastructure maintained, amirite?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:50 | 6815327 El Vaquero
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While this is something that wouldn't happen in the Middle East, biological weapons can be developed on the cheap.  Get strains of the flu that are known to infect both pigs and humans, and infect multiple pig populations.  Take samples from the pigs with the highest mortality rate, and infect the next generation.  Rinse, wash and repeat.  Eventually, you'll wind up with something that is just as deadly as the Spanish flu was. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 22:38 | 6816149 lakecity55
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Hold on.

You can't destroy all the oil stuffs because Assad will need his oil for a comeback.

But first, they gotta recapture the oil areas from Daesh.

I sure as hell don't want another secular ME state to fall.

Vlad is doing the right thing.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 11:37 | 6817809 gonetogalt
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Good, bomb the fucking oilfields so that if Assad's government ever gets shit quieted down they will be even more fucked up. Destroy all infrastructure, water works, power plants. Bomb'em back to the stone age! Brilliant! Oded Pinon, anyone?

And bomb the poor fucking drivers too!!!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:08 | 6814967 Flagit
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What do you mean nobody?

We have all been asking these questions since day one. We can keep asking because it won't make a bit of difference. Until the common persons of the USA band together and occupy the offices of Congress until they stop taking money from AIPAC, this insanity will continue. Even THEN, it probably won't be enough to break the grip of the Shadow Government, it's financial backers, and the MIC's. Stop America from facilitating this and the world suddenly becomes a quieter place.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:24 | 6815488 FixItAgainTony
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Doable if there was unwavering leadership support from non-comm ranks of the armed forces.  I'm guessing the folks need another generation (three 8 year Fed electoral cycles?) of out-of-touch misrule before the puppeteers know it is time to move on and find a new host.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:08 | 6814968 A Lunatic
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Fractional Reserve Terrorism, Bitchez......

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:09 | 6814971 vq1
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<--would buy discount oil from isis

<--I only buy 'merican oil! ('merican priced)

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:57 | 6815124 Chuckster
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You know what the real number would be.  There might be a priest/rabbi combo that wouldn't.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:09 | 6814973 ghostzapper
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Other big questions for ZH:  why have we not seen or heard of a large institution imploding due to the price action in crude and/or USD in the last year or so?  What line must be crossed?  Is it sub-$40 crude?  What about the hedges layered on with crude north of $100 running out?   

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:13 | 6814988 Chuckster
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I was watching some videos provided by news networks basically trying to show the Syria/Europe connection.  The quality of some of the weapons ISIS has is mind numbing.  Fantastic rocket launchers.  Where are they getting this stuff.  Hey guys I build some of this stuff.  Two days ago you should have seen the non-disclose forms I had to sign.  How can they get this stuff without the west's consent?  The world is a cesspool.  I know the places Victor Bout (Mr. Innocent) got his products from.  I been there.  Bishkek comes to mind real quick.  I have been many places in the world and I have met many many Muslims and I never met one I couldn't get along with.  I am not one to push my ideals on anyone else and I always try to maintain a reasonably open mind.  I was offered goat eyes (guest of honor) but I never ate them so I guess I'm not the meanest son of a bitch in the valley.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:25 | 6815347 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Where are they getting this stuff?", you ask?

Why, from US air drops, and from the panicking Iraqi Army, we were told, when ISIS was first in its rapid expansion phase.

Which then brings us to the next logical, but non-obvious question: Why were they not using these same US-made arms in Paris? Bad PR for the US (if they had used US arms), or maybe easier to trace?

So many questions, so few answers.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:17 | 6815000 loregnum
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Do the people who actually believe in the terrorism stuff ever wonder why there are no attacks on say NFL stadiums? You have what, probably an average of 60-70k people attending each game and any given week there are at least 13 games and I can't imagine it'd be difficult for some suicide bomber to breach a gate and blow himself up right there in the gate area which would surely kill dozens of people and put fear in the million+ fans who go to games every year along with every other pro sport.

Do those who believe in the terrorism stuff ever wonder why it is that these supposed Muslim groups hell bent on destroying the U.S and who supposedly hate them so much haven't done anything here since the physics defying feats (I'm still amazed at how Muslims are able to defy the laws of physics multiple times on the same day) of Sept 11, 2001? 14 years and jackshit done since then. Hmmm.....

One would think that stuff not happening would give one pause to question the garbage they have been brainwashed to believe but I guess not. 

 

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:49 | 6815106 Herd Redirectio...
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I guess those fanatics never read "Sum of All Fears".  Maybe they're not Tom Clancy fans?  More Michael Crichton readers?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:18 | 6815196 Good bi bull
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Dont worry my friend the Balkanization of the US will come in good time.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 20:13 | 6815711 shovelhead
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Because they're too young to know that Bruce Dern gave them some helpful advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xknWZIAzBCc

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 21:07 | 6815876 inosent
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First, i don't know what the deal is with the down vote, and second you make an astute observation. If these ppl have so much destructive 'genius', they are obviously loaded with cash, have a lot of free time on their hands and are very motivated, oh, yes, and let's not forget how with apparent ease they can get around town, in very busy places, secure ones as well, and manage to plant bombs without getting spotted, considering their passion for allah and their prophet and to kill the infidel, what is with the wimpy targets? Why so few casualties? And these 'wars'? Just one event, and then you don't hear anything for 15 years, coincidentally right about the time israel needs another false fag because (in this case) they got a little side tracked on their Syria wipe out campaign?

It's like preaching to the choir at ZH. Nice that there *is* a choir, but I hope the size of the choir is increasing. I have been sending lots of emails to congress about all sorts of things, giving them history lessons and providing sources. I will single handedly have gotten out 535 emails in the next couple months. It takes a while, because you can't just blast to a lot of congress critter emails. You have to go to their webmail page. But some actually read the emails and respond.

If I can do that, everybody can. So get to work. The more people in congress realize that an increasing majority of Americans are not interested in having American hijacked by jews and israel to pursue zionist interests which are not the same as American interests, they won't feel so intimidated when some weaselly jew shows up in their office to shake them down - and believe me, this goes on all day long on capitol hill. After all, jews represent a tiny percentage of the population. There is nothing to be afraid of.

 

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 22:30 | 6816118 lakecity55
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OK, I worked a big game right before I retired.

The security is pretty fuckin' good, if I do say so.

Now, if it's a FF, that there is another day, another game. Can't stop those unless every straight cop clued in at once. Won't happen. The bad guys compartmentelize the shit really good if they go FF.

So, I guess they just haven't done one....yet. They did pull off the marathon, that was a compartmental job pretty well done. All the cops and retired cops of my persuasion figured out, but that was a week later after we compared notes. You'd have to have somebody get a conscience on the inside to Blow It Open, but that won't happen.

But Daesh brings new FF opportunities!

You gotta assume from now on out: Anything is FF until proven otherwise!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:20 | 6815011 bonin006
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We don’t feel right vaporizing them, so we have been watching ISIS oil flowing around for a year,” says Knights.

But bombing and machine gunning hospitals is OK.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 20:15 | 6815720 shovelhead
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Mineral oil is not the same thing. Nobody cares if you blow up mineral oil.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 22:22 | 6816103 lakecity55
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What a load of shit from a .politburo faggot

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:25 | 6815023 Atomizer
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Find the network who runs the freight hub, you'll find the trader operations. I doubt they are smart enough to use burnt phone communications.    

ISIS EXPORT GATEWAY TO GLOBAL CRUDEOIL MARKETS

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:26 | 6815026 Niall Of The Ni...
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The same people who've been buying all those looted antiquities. The same people who've been gorging on dirty Muslim oil since the 1920's. Rich thieves loyal only to their bank accounts.

"Conflict diamonds" were a luxury that had become more trouble than they were worth to the likes of DeBeers. Nobody in a position to do much about it has had nearly as much interest in ethical oil drilled in civilized countries like Canada or Russia. Oil can't be synthesized in a factory.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 20:29 | 6815765 shovelhead
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DeBeers was the one who started the whole 'blood diamonds' outrage.

They were flooding the market and driving down the artificially high prices set by Debeers, so a few well placed phone calls to the UN's 'impartial representives' made it a top priority for sanctions.

It's nice to have friends.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:30 | 6815028 Inthemix96
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Just through the job I do for a living, and multiple various folks I meet on a day to day basis, they are not asking about the ISIS my dear, they are asking a question that cannot be quenched, as no one from our collective shit holes seems to give a polite two fucks.

My many, and said, folk, most customers, some acquaintances, are asking something different dear boy.  Its a rather simple set of simple questions indeed.  Its these:-

If we spend untold billions of pounds on say, DSGE, GCHQ, NSA, for the purpose of being able to read number plate from space, see the colours of your eyes, listen to every phone call you make, indeed, read every message you have ever sent, wank over every filthy photo of your wife you ever took, on top of all the very intrusive CCTV we deal with on an ongoing basis, every day of our lives.

Just the same as monitoring every key stroke you make on-line, publishing in the press that people like Inthemix96 are, 'None Violent Domestic Extremists', and following all and sundry about like a blue arsed fly, and telling you implicitly, they are storing this information for 'The Security Of The People'.

Just how in the name of cunts grace did you lot of child molesting protecting cunts miss the jazz that went down in France?  Are you dirty fuckers taking the right fucking piss owt of the intelligence you dont think we cunts possess?

Let me tell you one thing in this long winded post my security enabled friends.  You have lost the public support, I see this every day, the public as I see it, no longer believe the shit you clowns come owt with.  You have lost the consent, you were entrusted with to do what you do.

You have been revoked, consider this not just from yours truly, but all those he knows.

Stupid, stupid, do as you are told idiot cunts, to the very fucking man.

:-)

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:30 | 6815035 Chuckster
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Tell Cameron how you really feel!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:48 | 6815096 Herd Redirectio...
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I routinely ask myself "Do they think we are complete idiots???"

The answer: Yes.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:14 | 6815435 inosent
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lol

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 22:20 | 6816096 lakecity55
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OK, let the arrogant fucks keep thinking that.

"You-you figured us out? How?"
"By reading a lot of different stuff and adding 2+2 w/o Common Coretm."
"That huge knife--what what are you going to do? Do you know Who I Am?"
"Yeah, that's why I am here."
"You're gonna carve me up?"
"Yeh. Reaaal slow. Could have made it faster, but hey, you wanted the guns. Now it's gonna be hard on ya, plus I found your guns and ammo."
"Please! No!"
Hahaha, I'm Rick James, Bitch, and you're not!"

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:47 | 6815089 My Days Are Get...
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Gloria in excelsis deo

 

Amen.

 

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:01 | 6815133 SmallerGovNow2
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Thanks for that.  I've been longing for a nice dose of I96 cunt rant...  (-;

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 22:12 | 6816082 lakecity55
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INM96 Always top o the charts!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:20 | 6815207 Good bi bull
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Probably too busy wanking over pictures of our wifes.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:27 | 6815514 smacker
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"You have lost the public support"

Yes they have. And they are getting worried.

That is why the slimeball Cameron and his bitch Home Secretary want to outlaw encryption on the Internet: They're frightened of a public revolt and of feeling the rope around their necks along The Mall.

The day is coming.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 22:11 | 6816079 lakecity55
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Outlawing encryption won't work too well; too many end runs possible.

These bastards lost the high ground long ago.

If I ever see a dhs truck in flames, I won't stop.

Well, OK, if one of their guys is in flames I may slow down enough to run him over.

I won't help.

I will not support any of you.

The SHTF and we are going to come after all of you.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 04:50 | 6816861 smacker
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"[...] if one of their guys is in flames I may slow down enough to run him over."

It's good to see you're a compassionate sort of person ;-)

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:28 | 6815030 insanelysane
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Has John McCain had his picture taken on an ISIS oil tanker yet?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:35 | 6815053 My Days Are Get...
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Don't these guy post on the internet - Facebook, whatever.  Don't the Facebooks of world collect the computer id of the poster and his location.

Why are they allowed to post - why does a bullet from heaven not get fired and not take them out.

This is a fake enemy - a mirage.  The problem is that if anyone fires on the sender, Langley will go up in smoke.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:46 | 6815088 Atomizer
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Probably using Dark Web. It would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:03 | 6815140 DOT
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Not looking for a needle . Would it be so hard to find those who have someting to sell?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:38 | 6815065 MrBoompi
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I think one of the main reasons why this money pipeline has not been disrupted is right there in the report.  Many "market paticipants" would gladly do business with anyone for a 50% discount, even if they were the most bloodthirsy killers on the planet.  

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:49 | 6815103 Youri Carma
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Hence: Russian jets destroy ISIS oil refinery & tanker trucks in Syria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N4tmwYHbCU

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:52 | 6815113 jdavismemphis
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Here's an interesting take from Scott Creighton:

[T]he Kurds, are the primary recipient of this stolen oil and I showed they are selling it to Israel at an extremely reduced price. Israel is getting about 3/4 of the oil they need to run their country from the Barzani Kurds in Iraqi Kurdistan and they are getting much of their supply from those very tanker trucks Vladamir Putin was talking about.

“The crude is transported by tankers to Jordan via Anbar province, to Iran via Kurdistan, to Turkey via Mosul, to Syria’s local market and to the Kurdistan region of Iraq, where most of it gets refined locally,” Khatteeb explained." Oilprice.com

Israel has bought as much as three-quarters of its oil from Iraqi Kurdistan in recent months, the Financial Times reported Sunday.

"According to the report, which cited shipping data, trading sources and satellite tanker tracking, Israeli refineries and oil firms have imported more than 19 million barrels of Kurdish oil over the course of three months, from the beginning of May to August 11." Haaretz

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:02 | 6815136 Atomizer
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The kikes get caught double dipping. Shocked. No more US foreign aid to these bastards. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:51 | 6815626 FixItAgainTony
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I would hazard that worries of suitcase nukes "of unknown origin" in and around DC say otherwise.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:57 | 6815121 Atomizer
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Just wait for the Kenyan Nutter President to announce sanctions on ISIS. It sure backfired on China attempt. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:05 | 6815148 Atomizer
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The question to ask, what form of currency is being used to complete this transaction? If it's out of USD Petrodollar recycling, we have a bigger issue at hand. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:35 | 6815266 Chuckster
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Probably bitcoin

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:30 | 6815149 NuYawkFrankie
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How many times does it have to be said before it sinks in:
ISIS is the USSA/Israel proxy for creating Middle-East/European mayhem

ISIS can therefore "launder" its oil any which way these entites suggest that leave them with plausible deniability -of what the fcuk is going on.

These types of stories are - intentionally or not - smoke-screens & red herrings obfuscating THAT essential fact of the matter.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:46 | 6815309 Atomizer
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This current story has the same essence of Niger Delta oil scam network. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:09 | 6815160 JohninMK
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By some remakable coincidence, the very night after Putin told the G20 meeting that when viewed from 4-5000m up the convoy of tankers stretched from horizon to horizon, the USAF unleashed some A-10s and AC-130 s on them. For the first time.

Amazing, they must have some kind of cloaking technology, or was the US happy to ignore the flow?

Now its open season on the trucks.

Someone, somewhere will be very very pissed off about this.

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:33 | 6815260 Chuckster
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W. Churchill: "You can expect the Americans to do the right thing....after they have tried everything else."

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:13 | 6815171 Ms No
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Damn, that was a pretty hard hitting article.  I hope everybody is still alive.

Bloomberg: "So while Islamic State probably maintains some refining capacity, the majority of the oil in IS territory is refined by locals who operate thousands of rudimentary, roadside furnaces that dot the Syrian desert"   BITCH PLEASE!  We just watched some of those refineries blow up on Russian footage.  Lies, lies and stupid lies at that.

"Islamic State has resources beyond crude—from selling sex slaves to ransoming hostages to plundering stolen farmland—that can likely keep it fighting for years."

Being that it is more than apparent who is behind this, is this what is going to happen to us?  If I am going to be a sex slave/comfort woman for the new tyanny I better get a yellow ribbon and a t-shirt saying "No one worked harder for the Motherland than my vagina".  Good luck with that.  

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:55 | 6815346 nevertheless
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I got a kick out of the ISIS keeping going on "sex slaves and kidnapping", like that would in anyway pay the bills if oil income was cut off. 

 

It is also funny how quickly US forces knocked out Iraq's oil in the first few days of the Iraq war. Yet we are to believe US is not supporting ISIS, of course US is only supporting ISIS because our Zionist overlords have commanded it. 

 

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 22:13 | 6816085 Savyindallas
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Most of these sex slaves are probably ending up in Israel - their Ukranian source dried up  -these old jewish rabbis and sex perverts needed another source of fresh meat. 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 04:46 | 6816858 Otrader
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sex slaves, babies thrown out of incubators, etc.  Sheeeesh.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:14 | 6815176 o r c k
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There are 2 words in this article that should never be allowed to appear in print together because it's a thing that no human has ever had knowledge of.  "Enterprising Journalist"'  Stop that. It's confusing.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:44 | 6815197 Ms No
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".....it certainly is an odd coincidence that the price of Brent and WTI began its tumble last fall, just when the Islamic State made its dramatic appearance on the world scene - will have an effect and cut off the primary source of funds to ISIS."

That's because there are bigger fish to fry (Russia).  Syria had been going rather well for them and they presumably collected a lot of cash when the prices were high as well.

Edit: Although it definitely contributed to the problem of too much oil.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:21 | 6815210 blindman
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Sins Of My Father - Tom Waits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTDNx_iaM6Q
.
i know some things about him, some things about
being fatherless too.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:22 | 6815212 moratar
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They sell for 15-20$ per barrel mostly to Turkey.

You don't ask if you already know. So probably that's why nobody is asking becouse everybody knows.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:29 | 6815245 oldtech
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I was going ask where is oil $89 a barrel?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:46 | 6815310 Ms No
Ms No's picture

I wonder what they were selling it for last year.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:27 | 6815239 Jack Burton
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A year of American bombing failed to halt or even slow the ISIS oil export business, that went in trucks across the open desert highways. How many believe the USA didn't know this system was running?

The USA has always wanted ISIS to control a vast section of Syria in order to destroy Assad. Russia came in a called the US bluff. So now it is game on.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:36 | 6815271 Lucky Leprachaun
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Absolutely. There's a video showing a convoy of ISIS armored vehicles about half a mile long heading for Mosul (a year or two ago). They were sitting ducks even for a few drones. But they all reached Mosul unmolested. ISIS is America's creature establsihed and supported to overthrow Assad.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:55 | 6815349 kw2012
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ZH posted video of alleged ISIS column of military vehicles being escorted by a US blackhawk helicopter. about 100 vehicles armed with heavy machine guns

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:30 | 6815522 Kirk2NCC1701
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Indeed.  See

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-09/us-send-thousands-troops-attack-helicopters-artillery-europe-deter-russia?page=1#comment-6769780

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 18:36 | 6769948  Freddie 

Endless ISIS convoy entering Syria from Iraq has US Apache helicopter flying air cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFFb5E22TvE 

USA is ISIS.  Share this with everyone.  Why the Russians were not bombing the shit out of this convoy is beyond me.  Apache seen at 1:40 and 2:51.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 22:03 | 6816061 Savyindallas
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All you have to do is blast a couple of the lead vehicles  -all traffic stops - then allow 5 minutes for the truckdrivers to flee and get away - then destroy all the rest. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:33 | 6815258 Gunter
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Friends, there is something wrong with your calculation, and maybe you don't see the other more important funding channel because you are not in Europe.

"By selling the oil on the black market at a discounted price of $40 per barrel (compared to about $93 per barrel in the free market), ISIS takes in $3.2 million a day....
The oil revenue, which amounts to nearly $100 million each month, allows ISIS to fund its military and terrorist attacks — and to attract more recruits from around the world, including America. ...
Still, without a doubt, the dominant source of funds for the terrorists is oil"

I am sorry that is not correct. It is much easier, why make your hands dirty with oil?

We have on average 10,000 people coming to Europe per day!, and they all used the services of people smugglers, not matter if it is via Turkey and the Balkan route or from Libya to Italy.

Each one pays on average 3.000 dollars to the people smugglers.

Which amounts to 3,000 times 10,000 = 30 million dollars PER DAY.

Who gets that money? If not ISIS they must be stupid, or do you think they are in power there and let somebody else get that money? And that is 900 million dollars per month as compared to that ridiculous 100 million dollars from oil.

The other interesting - but not critical - question would be: Who pays that money?
It is the German tax payer. So the main funding source of ISIS is the German Government = the German tax payer.

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Now just for those who don't get it so quickly. Ali in Middle East pays a people smuggler 3,000 dollars for the fare to Germany. He does not have that money but some friendly ISIS middle man gives it to him - but: Pay it back within 2 years otherwise your family members who stay here will lose a hand or a foot or a head.

Ali makes his way to Germany, gets benefits there and sends that money to ... you guess it ... to the ISIS middle man.

What a business concept!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:04 | 6815381 Bob
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What a war effort! 

And folks in the US have to shop, and watch teevee, and eat, eat, eat, and drink, and shop, facebooking it all,  and go to work to serve the God of Financialized "Capitalism"  en route to neofeudalism!   Most devoutly.

We didn't fuck ourselves, but we did bend ALL the way over.  And didn't give a shit who or how many people our nation killed along the way, either. 

That ain't right. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:43 | 6815595 Chuckster
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When!  are we going to get together and do this?  It should work even better in the U.S.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:33 | 6815261 Zapporius
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What do you mean who? It's Erdogan's son.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:06 | 6815356 Atomizer
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Just imagine if Hunter Biden is a tad involved in this trade. Imagine the fireworks. Purely speculation. 

http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/05/14/crony-collusion-vp-joe-bidens-son-...

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:45 | 6815307 WTF_247
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I would guess that the US Govt is buying the oil.  We fund ISIS with weapons against Asad in Syria, so why not buy their oil also.

The US govt all the time provides material support for "less than reputable" characters.  If a private citizen does it - prison for life. US govt is immune from any terrorism laws for the most part - if they beleive it serves some purpose, they provide support.

Just remember the rules put in place only apply to citizens, not govt or favored corporations.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 20:37 | 6815791 Ms No
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Sell it to SA and they sell it back to us.  Or better yet, sell it to Bibi and he sells it back to us for 240 a barrel. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 21:59 | 6816047 Savyindallas
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Well, isn't Israel entitled to a reasonable profit? Considering that the joos are all still traumatized by the Holohoax, don't they deserve more compensation? Well  -am I not right? 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 21:57 | 6816043 Savyindallas
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"US Government" -best characterized as CIA/NSA, Deep State, Shadow Government. USGOV is a bunch of mindless, corrupt puppets  - the real government is behind the scenes. We, the US citizens, need to be liberated from them. Once the sheeple pull their heads out of their smelly asses -numbed and dumbed down by the addictive and numbing smell of methane  -then we have a chance. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:46 | 6815311 Omega_Man
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Dick Cheney and jews

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:52 | 6815336 steelrules
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Look at the area they control, it's being sold into Iraq and from there who knows, Halliburton?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:52 | 6815338 Hugh G. Rection
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It's probably a Soros operation. He's already attacked the British Pound at the expense of their citizens.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:57 | 6815362 smacker
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Seems odd to me that Russia hasn't been hitting ISIS and its oil trucks so much since it's been bombing in Syria. We know why the US hasn't been doing so, but why not Russia?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 21:11 | 6815898 JohninMK
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Simple, disabling ISIS cash flow was not top of their priority list. Saving Assad and their bases was and they didn't have long as the anti Assad forces were starting to make good headway.

The Russians, with a brilliant decision, estimated that Assad's army and helpers could last out for at least another four weeks. So they started hitting the 'strategic' targets behind the front line, not CAS. By destroying command, control, communications, stores and supply they in effect broke the back of the ISIS and other 'army' turning much of it into the leaderless, foodless, ammoless rabble starting to appear all over Syria. By hitting those targets without warning at the start they no doubt buried some foreign advisers.

Having cracked that nut the RuAF is being turned loose on the other targets all over Syria, like the oil movement system. Its all about to start to get very interesting as the RuAF starts to operate in parts of the country that US/NATO have regarded as theirs. Even more interesting if it becomes RuAF/French Navy combined under Moscow control and then even more interesting if the French AF based in Jordan joins that team.

We are heading towards some very big noses being put well out of joint.

 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 04:48 | 6816859 smacker
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OK, thanks. You're saying that hitting the ISIS oil routes was not the highest priority when Russia first intervened. That looks reasonable.

I see that a few days ago Russia did get round to bombing 116 ISIS trucks (as per the recent videos), so now they've got ISIS on the run, they're going down their list of targets.

And there is this:

"Britain's alleged involvement in ISIS oil shipments"

Looks like Cameron isn't coming clean about British support to ISIS.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:58 | 6815364 PrimalScream
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Stop and think about one thing.

HOW MUCH oil do you have to sell - to make millions of dollars???

We are not talking about a couple of guys with black masks shipping jerry cans on the back of truck.  There are millions of barrels of oil moving SOMEWHERE out of Syria and Iraq. 

This "ISIS Oil" is a huge operation.  And it's NO SECRET.

There is a whole oil infrastucture supporting ISIS. I think you should start by talking to the Saudis.  Where are the tankers coming from?  Who's got the shipping manifests?

The BULLSH*T is broad and deep.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:16 | 6815368 Crocodile
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"Look among the nations and watch-- Be utterly astounded! For I will work a work in your days Which you would not believe, though it were told you. (What do you mean) For indeed I am raising up the Chaldeans (the Assyrians/Muslims folks), A bitter and hasty people, which marches through the breadth of the earth, To possess dwelling places that are not theirs. They are terrible and dreadful; Their judgment and their authority proceed from themselves." (IOW - they make up their own rules and forcefully impose them)....All of them come to do violence; their faces are set in determination. They gather prisoners like sand. They mock kings, and rulers are a joke to them. They laugh at every fortress and build siege ramps to capture it. Then they sweep by like the wind and pass through. They are guilty; Ascribing this power to their god (Allah/Satan)". 

 

**This reference to Chaldeans can also be "Babylon" (mystery Babylon) and/or refer to a class of people (i.e the .001%), which could represent, just as easily and perhaps both, but note it is a group that possesses that which is not theirs and bring only evil.  I see it as both since we know the Muslims are possessing all over the world by the power of the elitists.

 

Oh we are seeing the beginning of birth pains; this is going to get much worse as we are warned; flee from the justice of God and be reconciled to Christ, the LORD, while you can.  Death often comes unexpectedly, but it always comes to all who ever lived.   

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:00 | 6815375 yogibear
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Thought I read that 73 terrorist are working for the TSA.

Doesn't that make you feel safe when you fly?

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:05 | 6815395 Lea
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It might be a question that's never raised in the USA. In the EU, it is a sore point raised by many politicians both left and right.

Who precisely is buying this oil?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:40 | 6815573 Crocodile
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They know who is buying and transporting and have the stamp of approval, which goes to show the great "con" that it is. 

 

Note the graph has the black market price at $40/ barrel and market at $93 per barrel; old data.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:07 | 6815405 omi
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It's not labeled as ISIS oil. You may get some Turkish oil or Iraqi oil.

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