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Trump Open To ID Badges, Special Database For Muslims: "We're Going To Have To Do The Unthinkable"

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On Tuesday we noted that GOP Presidential candidate, Sen. Ted Cruz is prepared to draft a refugee rejection bill in light of what happened in Paris last Friday. 

Obama’s plan to bring 10,000 Syrian asylum seekers into the US is “nothing short of lunacy” Cruz contends. He went on to say that "there is no meaningful risk of Christians committing acts of terror.” The President fired back with this: “That's not American. That’s not who we are. We don’t have religious tests to our compassion.”

While that sounds good in principle, near daily videos from Islamic State’s world class propaganda arm Furat Media have inflamed religious tensions in the West as militants prosthelytize and rant about destroying “crusaders” in full 1080p before committing atrocities so heinous on camera that it’s almost difficult to believe the footage is real. 

All of this is done in the name of Islam, much to the chagrin of Muslims who don’t spend their days burning people alive and running people over with tanks, but for many Westerners, twenty thousand or so bad apples does indeed spoil the whole bunch and the massacre in Paris pretty much sealed the deal for many conservative Americans and GOP lawmakers when it comes to allowing Syrian refugees into the country. 

As you might imagine given his stance on immigration, Donald Trump has some strong views on Islam in America and national security. Here are some excerpts from an interview with Yahoo

Trump’s take on the Paris attacks fits with the rest of his doctrine. He’s promised to “bomb the shit out of” the jihadist group ISIS, which is based in Syria and has claimed responsibility for the attacks.

 

Trump has also vowed to take an aggressive approach with Muslims here in the United States and suggested there should be a national effort to monitor mosques. He has spoken wistfully of the New York City Police Department’s mosque surveillance program, which was abandoned last year after generating substantial controversy.

 

Trump told Yahoo the architect of that program, former NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly, is someone he might think about for a position in a Trump presidential administration.

 

“Ray’s a great guy,” Trump said. “Ray did a fab job as commissioner and, sure, Ray would be somebody I’d certainly consider.”

 

After Paris, Trump said “security is going to rule” in the United States, in order to take on what he calls “radical Islamic terrorism.” America has currently agreed to take in 10,000 refugees from the ISIS stronghold in Syria. However, if he is elected, Trump said he would deport any Syrian refugees allowed to enter this country under President Obama.

 

“They’re going to be gone. They will go back. … I’ve said it before, in fact, and everyone hears what I say, including them, believe it or not,” Trump said of the refugees. “But if they’re here, they have to go back, because we cannot take a chance. You look at the migration, it’s young, strong men. We cannot take a chance that the people coming over here are going to be ISIS-affiliated.”

 

Yahoo News asked Trump whether his push for increased surveillance of American Muslims could include warrantless searches. He suggested he would consider a series of drastic measures.

 

“We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump said. “And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

 

Yahoo News asked Trump whether this level of tracking might require registering Muslims in a database or giving them a form of special identification that noted their religion. He wouldn’t rule it out.

 

“We’re going to have to — we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said when presented with the idea. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.

To be fair to The Donald, he was clearly being baited here, but that said, the above seems to indicate that a Trump administration would consider requiring Muslim Americans to carry ID cards identifying them as Muslims.

Obviously, that will conjure up some rather uncomfortable images from Europe's past. 

Is Trump right? We'll leave it to readers to discuss.

 

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Thu, 11/19/2015 - 15:36 | 6814497 Arthur Schopenhauer
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"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."

--- Benjamin Franklin on July 4, 1776

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 15:50 | 6814577 Chuckster
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Who gets the new ropes? Ha!  I know you mean well.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:02 | 6814644 Arthur Schopenhauer
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Its a corollary to what jughead said, below.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:18 | 6814519 hoist the bs flag
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See you stupid fuckers...go ahead...vote for this ass clown. Trump will rope you fanboy fools into some quasi-neo Confederate crypto fascist, feel good movement. You won't even see it coming. You will mistake it for some Liberty movement type shite or some other silly notion he sold you on.  you deserve the .gov you endure. you deserve brand Trump.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 21:38 | 6815984 Raul44
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Number of your down votes only prove how stupid sheeple these people are. Same go for Sanders dogs. They actually believe there come a guy one day and make things great again. Sort of Jesus Fucking Christ version. Well there actually was one and they gave him middle finger those idiots. Ron Paul. I guess candidate must be really stupid and say lot of stupid things in order to get elected by stupid people.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 15:39 | 6814520 DosZap
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It's stupidity, Obama has already brought MANY in,and settled them.

DEFUND them is the only lingo they get.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 15:41 | 6814531 DosZap
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"Christian terrorist - Tim McVeigh"

Was NO Christian sir,he may have identified himself as one, but no TRUE Christian would have done that.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:25 | 6814774 Bazza McKenzie
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And he certainly didn't claim to do it for Christ or God.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 15:42 | 6814540 All Out Of Bubblegum
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"So vote for Benjamin, terrific guy!"

Donald Trump Endorsement for Prime Minister Netanyahu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Je73bYOY

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:44 | 6815078 Raul44
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Trump just showed his true face here. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 15:51 | 6814580 Vin
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Should do the same with talmudic jooz.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 15:52 | 6814589 franzpick
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After immigration leads to continuing and uncontrollable terrorist acts in the U.S., the move to rural muzzfree areas will begin, and later the emergence of 'safe cities' for liberty and constitutional-minded, self-reliant, gun owning American citizens.

Thanks to you nobama, and your operatives Valeryious, Victorious, Hillaryious and others, for racializing and balkanizing 200 years of American unity.

Using your desk and pen you can change the Latin on U.S. coins to read: 'OUT OF MANY, NONE'.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:01 | 6815379 Lucky Leprachaun
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And those safe cities will attract the very people who will make them unsafe. Think public transport to the suburbs and Section 8.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 15:54 | 6814600 jomama
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Wait - for all muslims?

 

Really stupid move on his part. It's unconstitutional, to start with.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:09 | 6814619 PrimalScream
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OK ... this is happening why?  Because 129 people are dead in Paris ... another city on another continent?  For this reason we must put an "identity stamp" on every Muslim in America?

I said this here a few months back.  If The Donald takes power ... expect Personal Privacy and the Constitution to disappear completely.

EVERYONE KNOWS ... you can't issue special ID cards to Muslims.  It's not Constitutional.  They can only do this  - if they give the card to EVERY American.  But wait ... cards can be lost.  They can be duplicated.  Therefore, the Government will reach the conclusion that they need a sensor that is placed INSIDE every American. Something that can't be tampered with. 

So you wind up with some sort of "Human RFID Chip" - this allows every citizen to be scanned remotely like a barcode. All you need to do is to walk past a scanner, and your info is automatically picked up and computerized.  Then ALL of your purchases on credit cards will be linked to this chip.  And ALL of your travel will be linked to this chip.  If you carry a cell phone, they can link to your RFID Chip by linking through the cellular data. Therefore the Government has exact knowledge of who is using the phone.   If you buy gasoline at a service station, they can read your chip by a scanner at the gas pump, and they know where you are.  If you go through an airport - you are scanned automatically.  Basically, it would mean that NO American is ever "off the grid".

This technology does not exist today.  BUT IT CAN BE DONE.  This is not fantasy or conspiracy. 

You can see this coming.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 15:58 | 6814632 Herdee
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Nazi Germany had the same thing.The Nazis were very good record keepers and collected intelligence on everyone,especially on Jews and other people in society they didn't think were clean enough to be Germanic.They then started going back generations tracing people's ancestry.This is how it starts,then you demonize a race of people just like the NeoCons are doing to Russia.John McCain is a NeoCon,very similar in nature to a NeoNazi.Put a NeoCon badge on McCain,Victoria Nuland and Obuma and shape it like an asshole.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:05 | 6814678 Chupacabra1977
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Nazis were wary of jews because 80% of the Bolsheviks were jews.

Hitler was fighting communism.

He interned the jews because he didn't know which ones were good and which ones were bad.

Just like the USSA did to the Japanese in WW II.

You can never take enough precautions.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:05 | 6814648 PleasedToMeatYou
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Well, if anybody could do "the unthinkable", it's guys like Trump who don't do much thinking. 

Let's make them all wear palm-sized golden crescents on their lapels or hijabs, etc. whenever they are in public.  Fail to do so, and it's off to Guantanamo. 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:02 | 6814657 uncle_disgusting
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Total cockwobble

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:05 | 6814672 rejected
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Trump's vision may come to reality but the real question is why.  Summing it up,,, spooks in control

Spooks took control in 1963. It's been hockey stick down. Wars, terrorism and government tyranny ever since. The brown shirts Neo Cons took control of government since Nixon and its been bluster and arrogance ever since.

911 was their gold star pinnacle causing fear and panic among the natives which resulted in even more wars and regime changes not to mention the total evisceration of the rule of law and usurpation of the constitution. All this to start a "security" ramp up that really wasn't yet needed if we had just minded our own business. Now after 5 or more nations destroyed,,, 1 or more regime changes, not to mention threatening the Chinese and Russians that security threat is becoming real. Considering most of the world is thoroughly pissed off and with the Arabs wanting payback that security increase may now be an unfortunate necessity.

Of course the increased security will only slow down the inevitable. Besides the above there are the MSM and government pushing the racial, gender and the myriad of other political correctness issues apparently bent on the old order out of chaos agenda to merge us into a global fascist system.

Unless some sort of pivot occurs soon to derail their plans, it's over for liberty and justice for all. Their new system will make Hitler and Stalin's tyranny child's play and hell on earth will be a reality. 

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:16 | 6814728 samsara
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Nicely put.   Exactly.

 

“And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 18:56 | 6815352 Lucky Leprachaun
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Good analysis but assigning it all to 'spooks' is over-simplifying. I don't know the identity of the people inflicting this nightmare on all Western countries but it goes well beyond the intelligence community.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:17 | 6814738 MEFOBILLS
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“Judaism is defined by the Cabala which says God is "formless and unknowable."  Since knowing and obeying God is the essence of religion, Judaism is in fact a satanic cult masquerading as a religion.

Due to the power of the Cabalist Jewish central bankers, humanity has become a satanic cult.”

http://henrymakow.com/2015/01/brother-nathaniel-the-justinian.html

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=824

Supersession means what comes later supersedes that which came first.  In Cabala/Talmud supersession is irrelevant, as entire edifice incorporates psychopathology.   Islam, post Medina, becomes violent and suppresses women, embraces slavery, and is superiority cult.   The peaceful Mecca phase of Islam is overturned post Medina, due to supersession.

 Therefore supersession means that Islam cannot be reformed.  Salafist head choppers are doctrinally correct, and Islamic peace lovers are apostates.   THIS CANNOT BE OVERCOME.  The only answer is separation internally within society or ejection.  Islamic have home countries, so ejection should be a simple matter.

Supersession in Christianity: Old Testament Christianity and its pathologies are superseded by New Testament.    New Testament Christ followers are doctrinally correct when they reject Old Testament aberrant behaviors.

How did Byzantine Empire under Justinian Law manage its Jewish problem?  Today’s Russia is an example:  Russia is now following Byzantine template of “symphony” of Church and State.  Any new Russian law is examined first for morality as guiding principle.  Christian Orthodox Church and Secular State are separate pillars supporting society.  In Russia, nuclear families are now being re-enforced and protected as cornerstones of society. 

Byzantium :

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No Jews in banking and hence they cannot control the economy. 

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Exclude Jews from civil office and they cannot subvert national interests

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Remove and forbid them from teaching and media, hence they cannot corrupt morals of youths.

Updating Justinian Law to also include the latest “Semite” religion (Islam) seems minimally appropriate, while outright ejection would be preferable.

If a country doesn’t have its own money, its own borders, its own language, its own culture – it is not a country.

A sovereign country exists to protect its family within.

 

www.sovereignmoney.eu  

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:20 | 6814751 Benjamin123
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"Judaism AS defined by the Cabala" not "Judaism IS defined by the Cabala". There are any number of definitions of what Judaism is.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:29 | 6814796 MEFOBILLS
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Pure Semantics

Torah following Jews are few and far between.  The Talmud is what matters. Talmud refers to Cabala and before that Zohar.

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:51 | 6814853 Benjamin123
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IS and AS are different words with totally different meanings. These are not semantics. Besides, youy dont know what you are talking about. Talmud predates Zohar, and Zohar is Cabala. The Talmud does not refer to Cabala, Cabala came later as well as much of jewish "Mysticism", unheard of in previous eras.

Both sytles of judaism could not be more different. Mysticism is mumbo jumbo about souls, light and hidden realities. Talmud talks about what to do if a rooster gets its head stuck in a glass jar or how to split an inheritance among your sons and daughters.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:18 | 6815456 mijev
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"Pure Semantics"

We're going to get those fucking semantics too. They're the worst!!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:56 | 6814918 Benjamin123
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Other than that i agree with the idea of banning jews from holding political power outside of Israel. Its probably better for everyone.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 21:44 | 6816002 Raul44
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Benjamin I always though from your comments that you are jewish? If so its quite noble comment of you. That said, I agree but then again I know at least 2+ jews that I think I could perfectly trust in such positions: Peter Schiff(economy) and Norman Finkelstein(foreign affairs). But certainly not H. Clinton or Sanders.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:24 | 6814764 Dark Daze
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So let's take a look a the hisotry of America. In the last 240 years, the following groups have been demonized as a prelude to a national campaign of incitement, war and suppression is not outright annihilation.

The British, the American indians, witches in Salem, the Spanish, The Mexicans, the Latin Americans in general, the Cubans, the Russians, the 'communists', the 'socialists', The Viet Cong, the North Koreans, the Chinese, the Iraqi's, the Iranians, the Germans, the Turks, the Italians, Greeks, Irish and other immigrants, the Jews, the blacks, the Canadians (1812), the southern cessionists, the Serbs, the Japanese and I'm sure there's more that I have forgotten. That list doesn't even include what they have done to their own citizens, yet through all of this they have steadfastly maintained that they are 'god fearing' good guys only interested in furthering the cause of peace and harmony. And each and every time they have whipped the population into a frenzy and used that as cover to perform their deeds. Now it's the 'Islamists' and a so called serious contender for the Presidency is alluding to the suspension of civil rights and a police state as being necessary. God help America because I'm sure nobody else wants to.

 

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:26 | 6814777 madmax1965
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#NONEOFYOURLIVESMATTER!  Sincerley, .GOV

 

END THE FED!

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 16:47 | 6814873 marts321
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Why not just cut to the chase and make it mandatory for everyone to have an RFID chip in their right hands?

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:27 | 6815519 mijev
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"Unthinkable"

Ok, totally O/T but if anyone is into crosswords, when I was in the UK I would struggle with The Times cryptic crossword every day. One of the clues was "How someone with a lisp might dare to describe the Titantic (11)."

Apparently the Queen would get through that crossword in 30 minutes. I never got more than seven clues the whole time I was there.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 19:32 | 6815543 Old Poor Richard
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You lost me there, Don.  Close the borders, yes.  Deport illegals, yes.  Require national ID, NO!  Fascist laws are used against EVERYBODY, not just the intended targets.

Thu, 11/19/2015 - 22:53 | 6816188 bobdog54
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I have Muslim friends whom I've asked about the validity of the Koran with regards to ridding the earth of infidels. Some change the subject or poo-poo it and some deny it. To a person, they have answered my question. So perhaps many don't practice it but they either believe it or will just let it happen. We are pissing in the wind folks...

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 01:35 | 6816606 onmail1
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Dunno whether Trump will survive the nuclear war to be started by CabalA$$LickerLiarJunkieHomObamma.

 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 07:09 | 6820734 overmedicatedun...
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turns out the press made up the id badges bs, trump never said it..but if the msm wants you out this is how they do it ..just lie and lie and keep it up until it becomes fact.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 03:06 | 6816755 Troy Ounce
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Trump: "We're going to have to do the unthinkable." 100% sure he means "a smaller government". Not.
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