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5 Myths Regarding the Paris Terror Attacks
As usual, the politicos and talking heads are all talking their own book, using the Paris terror attacks to push their own agendas.
As shown below, they’re spouting nonsense.
Mass Surveillance Won’t Help
The NSA and other spy agencies are pretending that the Paris attacks show that we need more mass surveillance.
But the New York Times correctly points out in a scathing editorial that mass surveillance won’t help to prevent terrorism:
As one French counterterrorism expert and former defense official said, this shows that “our intelligence is actually pretty good, but our ability to act on it is limited by the sheer numbers.” In other words, the problem in this case was not a lack of data, but a failure to act on information authorities already had.
In fact, indiscriminate bulk data sweeps have not been useful. In the more than two years since the N.S.A.’s data collection programs became known to the public, the intelligence community has failed to show that the phone program has thwarted a terrorist attack. Yet for years intelligence officials and members of Congress repeatedly misled the public by claiming that it was effective.
In reality, top security experts agree that mass surveillance makes us MORE vulnerable to terrorists.
Indeed, even the NSA has previously admitted that it’s collecting too MUCH information to stop terror attacks.
Encryption Isn’t What Made Us Vulnerable
The spy agencies are also pretending that encryption made it impossible to stop the attacks.
But the Washington Post reports:
Several French outlets reported last night that a smartphone recovered near one of the massacre sites was not encrypted at all.
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Hours after the attacks in Paris, Forbes quickly pointed to remarks by a Belgian official who said that Islamic State militants use the PlayStation 4's chat functions as a way to communicate securely. The article also mentioned that a Sony PlayStation 4 was recovered in a police raid connected to the Paris investigation.
That report was later undermined by the real facts — that no PlayStation 4 had been collected and that the Belgian official had been talking about the use of PlayStation technology generally by terrorism suspects.
But it was too late. Reports spread across the news industry tying the PlayStation to the attacks (there is a second wave of stories sweeping the Internet trying to undo the damage).
Tech Dirt notes:
Most of the communications between the attackers was conducted via unencrypted vanilla SMS:
“…News emerging from Paris — as well as evidence from a Belgian ISIS raid in January — suggests that the ISIS terror networks involved were communicating in the clear, and that the data on their smartphones was not encrypted.
European media outlets are reporting that the location of a raid conducted on a suspected safe house Wednesday morning was extracted from a cellphone, apparently belonging to one of the attackers, found in the trash outside the Bataclan concert hall massacre. Le Monde reported that investigators were able to access the data on the phone, including a detailed map of the concert hall and an SMS messaging saying “we’re off; we’re starting.” Police were also able to trace the phone’s movements.
The reports note that Abdelhamid Abaaoud, the “mastermind” of both the Paris attacks and a thwarted Belgium attack ten months ago, failed to use any encryption whatsoever (read: existing capabilities stopped the Belgium attacks and could have stopped the Paris attacks, but didn’t). That’s of course not to say batshit religious cults like ISIS don’t use encryption, and won’t do so going forward. Everybody uses encryption. But the point remains that to use a tragedy to vilify encryption, push for surveillance expansion, and pass backdoor laws that will make everybody less safe — is nearly as gruesome as the attacks themselves.
7 of the 8 Terrorists Were Known to U.S. or French Intelligence Agencies
Just as with 9/11, the Boston marathon bombings, and other recent attacks, governments are pretending “it wasn’t foreseeable”.
But CBS reports that law enforcement sources say that 7 of the 8 terrorists were known in advance to U.S. or French intelligence services.
The New York Times confirms:
Most of the men who carried out the Paris attacks were already on the radar of intelligence officials in France and Belgium, where several of the attackers lived only hundreds of yards from the main police station, in a neighborhood known as a haven for extremists.
Escalating War Against ISIS Is Not the Only Option
I’m all for killing members of ISIS.
But given that the U.S. and its close allies – Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and Bahrain – are massively supporting ISIS, stopping the arming, feeding and logistical support is even more important if we want to stop these crazies.
None of the Terrorists Were Syrian
None of the Paris terrorists were Syrian. All of them were European nationals.
The German Interior Minister suggests that the Syrian passport found at the scene of the terror attacks was a “false flag” by ISIS meant to force countries to seal their borders against further refugees.
Why would they do this? Numerous security experts suggest that refugees fleeing ISIS’ “Caliphate” is a PR disaster for ISIS. After all, happy fundamentalist Muslims wouldn’t flee utopia, would they?
But we do take the risk of infiltration of refugee groups by terrorists very seriously. Indeed, the Telegraph reports today:
The mastermind of the Paris attacks was able to slip into Europe among Syrian migrants, it emerged last night, as police on the continent admitted they are unable to monitor thousands of suspected jihadists.
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It has emerged that Abaaoud, and at least two of the Paris terrorists took the migrant route via Greece, intensifying fears that terrorists are able easily to exploit the refugee crisis to get to Europe.
Specifically, many of the Paris terrorists were European nationals who went to fight for ISIS in Syria, and then they slipped in with the refugees coming from Syria to get back into Europe.
So those saying that the civilians fleeing war and mayham in Syria are all terrorists are wrong … but so are those saying that the massive refugee flow poses no danger.
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More wackoism and Islamist apologia.
First, the mere fact that one of them happened to have an unencrypted cell phone means dick. THey could easily have been communicating via encryption on other devices. IN fact, that would be the smart play.
And the point that none of them were Syrian is also bogus. Two of them were fingerprinted entering with the migrants in Greece. BUt yes, many of them were AMuslims who lived most of their lives in Europe - which goes to show you just how unassimilable that crew is.So obviously letting millions more in is something only fools would do.
You and I need a history lesson in order to fully understand even the basic causes of the current mayhem. When foreign populations have different societal norms are placed into another culture on mass, without a concerted effort to assimilate over time into the new host culture, this is what you get. Add to that religious dogma and racial differences with the dominant host culture increasingly upset by too many "strangers" in their midst, they get pissed. This is not difficult to grasp.
Add to this historical colonial brutality with the current smashing of the order of other Nations, mix together, then flood the perp. nations with fleeing refugees, you will harvest the fruit of the seed that has been nurtured for centuries.
Good thing the YEE-HAW brigade reminds us with regularity that Muslims carry out these pathetic operations, and not the intelligence operatives serving white capital.
Otherwise we might get it wrong!
Muslims do carry out these operations; with the support of "white", arabic, and Israeli capital. And America is in it up to the conflicted eyeballs.
No mystery where the oil is being sold. Turkish oil trucks and drivers have been making the "elected" dictator of Turkey wealthier than a Saudi prince.
Only misguided U.S. policy of trying to isolate Russia has kept Erdogan in the money. Now Russia is incinerating Turkish oil trucks. And as usual our fearless leader shucks and jives trying to figure out his next checkers move.
Time to get out of the Middle East. Only a murdering dictator can control murdering Muslim Neanderthals.
Yeah! Those dratted evil muslims!
I refer you to the body counts of WWI and WWII for what western civilization is eminently capable of without assistance from them horrible muslims. Christians and jews.
Ahh, it seems here that we have among us one of the sniveling cowards who has shat himself yet again over one of these attacks. What do you suggest we do so that you can sleep better at night and stop wetting yourself? Should we make all encryption lliegal? Would you feel better if we CC'ed .gov with all of our communications - unencrypted of course, under penalty of prison - so that you can can stop crapping your trousers in fear of Mohammad and his buddies?
Cowards will gladly submit to cavity checks so that others will have to do the same. Sorry, I am not getting fisted just because you were willing to do the same.
Chickenshit coward. Be gone, you're not a true American. A true American does not hand over liberties paid for with the blood of our ancestors everytime the boogeyman rears his ugly head.
Is this a myth, or is he batshit insane?
http://conservativebyte.com/2015/11/u-s-pilots-obama-blocks-75-of-islamic-state-strikes/
So those saying that the civilians fleeing war and mayham in Syria are all terrorists are wrong
Mayham.....ummmmmm tasty. Its whats for dinner.
"Everything the government says is a lie" Nietzsche. Every government remedy is further government enslavement. ISIL is a government created beast. Its evil is the evil of the governments supporting it.
All natural systems need contining nourishment to survive. Starve the beast. Blame the nurturers of ISIL for their beasts' acts. ISIl kills because Barack, the Saudis and other kings finance.
Alas, I have but one upvote to give for my country.
Viva Reaper
That's a lot of beasts.
Too bad the Beasty Boys already copped the name.
Wouldn't it be our first class training that made from moderate to "To the Extreme" terrorists?
I'm so old I remember when Americans were almost a brave people. Sickening how terrified they are now of the almost god like terrrorists, who are capable of acts so heinous they can destroy one of the greatest military powers that ever lived.
They must be god like since we are willing to sacrifice all not to have to face one or two of them here in the "homeland"
Fish rots from the head
Taken country-wide you are more likely to be struck by lightning while being shot by a cop. But our government needs you scared abd submissive.
Yup.
But, it's like all marketing, it's about getting sales. Nothing sells like fear. After all, please give what you can, it's for the children!
Don't forget the cops, firefighters, and teachers...
;-D
the persistent "were almost a brave people." watching too much MSM. believing in too many fixed polls?
it is the leadership you describe across the board in .gov and media and wall st banks.
many of us do not want the HLS and it's bastard TSA. all we want is secure borders and immigration and trade agreements that protect our life style,,sorta like what Trump is saying. and he is leading in all the polls for what that is worth..I wear a hat that has NRA in big gold letters in public and the looks I get tell me people are begining to wake up to the fact there are good guys fighting for us. they are alas not the ones in .gov just ave joe citizens.
Sorry, you cannot have it BOTH ways.
"Tight borders" are less of an issue than "tight communication links." When more things are controlled via this virtual world you're going to have the likes of NSA/HLS.
POWER always ends up raging to its end. ALL empires collapse. Wearing NRA hats, talking about "doing something," pulling "levers," NONE of it will do shit. All has to run its course. Don't believe me?
THE FATE OF EMPIRES and SEARCH FOR SURVIVALhttp://www.rexresearch.com/glubb/glubb-empire.pdf
Demographics. Wealth disparity. These are the prevailing forces.
As to whether one is winning or losing, from White Men Can't Jump:
As elements of nature, humans are deceptive. At our core is the same for all of nature- survival: some will dawn NRA caps, others will pull levers, some will go and TAKE what they want/need. You know what they say about rules...
the OLDEST terrorist technique is the "Trojan Horse"
Only "tight borders' prevents that. Historically that's one of the PRINCIPLE reasons for national borders
There's a reason computer trojan viruses are first blocked with a "firewall"
that wall can be used to keep people in as well as out. I want to be able to travel the world freely as a tourist without getting anal cavity searched everywhere too. This is all false flag stuff so there's no real need to be as paranoid about borders, that shows the terrorist won.
I don't know of a single person who is going to stay home on Black Friday. They haven't even given it a second thought that that would be the best day of the year for the terrorists to strike the masses in the malls. They are afraid of terrorists, yet complacently believe that somehow it won't happen here.
Most will stay home because they are so far in debt. But the poor sales will be blamed on the fear of terrorists.
More QE to fight terrorism!
We have a WINNER!
If you're that old, happy 232nd birthday
Excellent supporting interviews (Greenwald at Democracy Now and former DIA director stooge, Michael Flynn in an al Jazeera interview):
http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/19/glenn_greenwald_shameless_cia_exploits_paris
http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/19/glenn_greenwald_on_submissive_medias_drumbeat
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/headtohead/2015/07/blame-isil-150728080342288.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG3j8OYKgn4
..."a public so docile..."
Just as I ask friends who send breathless emails "something's gotta be done!!!" and "people better wake up", please give us docile sheep your action plan.
No plan, no action, so if you don't have one or prefer to keep it secret, please don't blame the "docile public" who have been waiting since '07 for someone to step forward and lead. Not ALL are docile, but most of us know that without a plan and leadership, there'll be no change, and even then it'll take as long or longer to get out of the trouble we're in than it did to get in.
One candidate seems ready to lead but I think he'll be scuttled before the candidates are "selected" (wink wink), and from the time of JFK we've known that presidents really aren't in charge, right? Maybe that's why there's no plan.
Yeah, I have a plan and it does not need a leader. It is up to each of us to decide how much bringing an end of the worst part of the system is worth to you. How much are you willing to deny yourself comfort and entertainment. How much are you willing to detach yourself from the system of control which provide benefit to the ignorant or callous office holder . How many of your unalienable rights are you willing to ignore to let your fears stop any action that would be of benefit. How loudly are you willing to raise your voice and suffer being marginalized by the ignorant mind controlled "Shut up you tin foil hat lunatic" neighbors.
Liberty is not free. If government public servants attempt to make you, the master, their servant what steps if any are you prepared to take. These public servants can be brought to heel to their masters when the masters refuse to continue to aid and abet their own subjugation. Stop listening to propaganda.
Stop buying stuff that invades your privacy. Stop allowing government agents that ignore their duty to protect and uphold the Constitutions through non compliance and legal means. All your rights as a free people are protected by law only if you are prepared to use the law to defeat government's force to take them away.
Stop using credit cards unless unavoidable. These are totally unnecessary, increase costs, make it possible to track every transaction. Using them aids the police state and gives profits to the international thieving bankers. The more people use cash or checks if necessary the more you stop paying for your own subjugation.Barter is even better. Reduce your taxable profile.
Stop voting. You have no clue as to what you are signing when you swear you are a United States Citizen under pains and penalties of perjury. Besides, it is rigged so your choices are limited to the favored of the powerful. What if they held an election and nobody showed up? The lower the vote, the less validity the elected have.
The next time you get a traffic ticket and you are not engaged in commerce fight the charges for lack of jurisdiction. Before government can try you in court they can be defeated if they do not have jurisdiction. All these fines and infractions of government law have noting to do with a Constitutional Citizen's rightful jurisdiction. The public officers are ignorant and belligerently threaten you to submit to their jurisdiction which they DO NOT HAVE unless you agree to let them have it. All those fines and fees you pay to a system that is just a revenue hog are used against you to maintain their system of abuse.
You don't need a leader. You need to stand up as individuals and demand your servants live up to their oath of office. If they refuse, file a complaint of injury or seizure without a lawful warrant being issued. You need to educate yourselves about your rights and how to use the law against the law breakers. Most lawyers don't know how to do this and are afraid to try as they are officers of the court.
Stop flying commericial. Takes some planning, but we can break the airport nazis.
Buy gold, silver and stop using banks. Use solid local credit unions and more than one.
"No plan, no action, so if you don't have one or prefer to keep it secret, please don't blame the "docile public" who have been waiting since '07 for someone to step forward and lead."
The vast majority couldn't point to the UK on the map let alone Syria. They're mostly historically ignorant and grossly propagandized in what little they DO know, who even if they were clamoring for more that just the latest freaking iToy, would make the wrong choice in who they do choose to "lead" them as proven by every president they've elected during my entire life, rep or dem. And it has been that way for a very, VERY long time.
"By the time a man gets to be presidential material, he's been bought ten times over." - Gore Vidal
“No one in this world, so far as I know — and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.” - H.L. Mencken, 1926
Yep. They had several chances to elect Ron Paul. They preferred Obama. Jesus....
How about having a so-called commander in chief who runs every act through a legal maze before he approves? How about a gutless congress that lets him get away with it and a public so docile they act like the ancient Romans who allowed their way of life to be destroyed?
This limp wristed government foments unnecessary wars around the world and ignores those who are bent on destroying us. Pathetic.
missed taht one my a mile, johnj. the governments CREATED this "much worse than Al Qaeda threat" to perpetuate the wars.
WTF are you spewing about? Obama isn't making decisions, he's a orator and public lightning rod.
Your barely comprehensible comment is all about reinforcing divide and conquor. Go comment on Fox New's website with your blather.
true, trillionaire cabal call the shots. Just so happens that O likes their plan but you follow it or you get Kennedy'd
vote liberal or conservative, same dog. That has become obvious.
This could be dealt with but the people won't look or cower and deny. We're too close to the designed collapse (ss and medicare boomers storming the system) Its hard to understand how you don't address these terminal issues.
Lemme slip a word in here edge-wise before the usual riff-raff show up screeching DENIER!...lol.
What everyone needs to be aware of and understand is this propensity of government (any government) to "claim" they are doing something for your benefit, they are not. They are doing it for themselves. Even now that feckless feline Feinstein is proposing to monitor Playstation because they used it to communicate. So, my friends on the right might say "What's the problem with that nmewn?"
Well I'll tell you what the problem is, today it's Playstation, tomorrow it'll be the Tea Party or any other group that questions the motives, actions or diktat's of the authoritarian state known as the federal government.
You have been warned.
Preaching to the choir, Nmewn. Should post that on huffpost or somewhere. Err, not that I'm suggesting you have an account there.
France had plenty of warning of impending attack
Was Paris is another false flag operation, or was it conscientiously allowed to happen, possibly supported by western intelligence services?
Iraqi Intelligence Warned France of ISIS Attack Day Before Paris Assault
CONFIRMED: French Government Knew Extremists BEFORE Attack
“Forty grenades, 180 detonators and plastic explosives” stolen from French military base
Breaking: French and German Police Knew Paris Attack Was Coming a Month Prior
Paris Attacks: Multi-site Exercise planned for morning of Nov 13, 2015
Before Paris Terrorist Attacks, CIA Director Brennan Met With French Intelligence DGSE Chief Bernard Bajolet: Report
French Security Left Blind During November 13 Paris Terror Attacks
Original at
http://www.neopresse.com/europa/pariser-anschlaege-die-frage-nach-dem-cu...
Translation at
http://russia-insider.com/en/qui-bono-who-benefits-paris-attacks/ri11318#
Links supporting the author's points are included in the original German reprot.
You forgot a few other telltales....
"passport found next to body"
"cellphone found in garbage with plans on it"
Etc.
What?
No mention of the drill(s) for the exact scenario that played out happeing atsome of the locations the same day?
That is a patter - remember the [for merely one example] Boston Marathon (false flag) event?
Weak article by George. Buys into the mainstream narrative. I'm disappointed. As you say, no mention of the drill. Isn't that just a LITTLE bit important? Close to absolute proof for it being a false flag. And the fake, planted passport....why isn't that questioned?
"7 of the 8 Terrorists Were Known to U.S. or French Intelligence Agencies".... well yes, people usually do know those who work for them, and are being set up to take the fall. Refer to the Boston brothers for further clarification. Or Lee Oswald.
Absolutely pissweak, George.
Don't recall that one..how about Sandy Hoax?
Perhaps you're thinking about Boston.
The shit is getting pretty thick.
Muhammed Atta had been on an Israeli wanted list for 15 years.
Most of the 'hjackers are still alive.
But not the operatives who had assumed their identities. It's a bitch working for intelligence when your boss doesn't like you.
They were using PlayStation4s to communicate? So the PS4 is a tool of terrorists? Shit, and I wanted one for Christmas! Is there a chance this will hurt the price a bit? I am, after all, on a budget.
xbox owned by microsoft and bill gates who is a favorite CIA pal. PS4 dominates it in sales due to just being better, they probably felt like why not throw a little anti PS4 propaganda in with this false flag, especially with holiday season on the way.