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Congress Wants To Seize Your Passport For Unpaid Taxes

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Submitted by Simon Black via SovereignMan.com,

Sometimes you just have to stand in awe at the level of corruption and incompetence in government.

Case in point, the new highway bill in the Land of the Free. And, trust me, you’ll love this.

The latest version of the highway bill is called the “Developing a Reliable and Innovative Vision for the Economy Act.”

And yes, they abbreviate it as the DRIVE Act.

I cannot even begin to imagine how large the team of monkeys is that works on these silly acronyms. And as is typical for legislation, the more high sounding the name of the law, the more destructive its consequences.

On the surface, the DRIVE Act aims to fund the federal transportation network and investments in highway infrastructure for the next several years, as well as recapitalize the Highway Trust Fund.

Federal trust funds are supposed to responsibly and conservatively manage money that has been set aside for a specific purpose to benefit taxpayers.

There are so many of these trust funds. There are the big ones like Social Security’s “Old Age Survivor’s Insurance” and “Disability Insurance” (which is literally days away from running out of money).

And there are many more you’ve probably never heard about, like the “Black Lung” trust fund and the “Leaking Underground Storage Tank” trust fund.

Most of these funds are insolvent, or at least pitifully undercapitalized, clearly proving the government to be one of the worst asset managers in history.

The Highway Trust Fund is no exception: it has completely run out of money, and at this point literally has a ZERO account balance. The DRIVE Act intends to fix that.

And even though it has nothing to do with funding highways, the bill also aims to re-authorize the Export-Import Bank.

The Ex-Im Bank was created during the Great Depression and is designed to facilitate trade. That’s code for ‘boost the profits of Boeing and General Electric.’

Even the government’s own Congressional Research Service found that “more than 60% of Ex-Im Bank’s loan guarantees, by dollar value, supported the sale of Boeing airplanes in foreign countries”.

Ex-Im is essentially a gift on a golden platter from the taxpayers of the United States to a handful of mega-companies.

The Bank’s charter lapsed earlier this year. But rather than let it die, they’re jumpstarting Ex-Im with even more taxpayer money.

Clearly the government needs cash. They need to fund Ex-Im, the Highway Trust Fund, and all the improvements for America’s dilapidated infrastructure.

And their solutions to address this cash crunch are nothing short of remarkable.

For example, they plan to steal $300 million from the Leaking Underground Storage Tank trust fund (LUST… yes, that’s really what they call it), and transfer that money to the Highway Fund.

The only problem is that LUST is insolvent. So they’re stealing from one insolvent trust to fund another insolvent trust. It’s genius!

One of my favorite sections in the bill is a directive to sell off 100+ million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

Only a politician could think to sell off oil supplies at a time when oil price is at multi-year lows.

(It also really gives you a sense of how broke the government really is that they’re driven raise cash by selling off strategic assets.)

Another gem buried in the 864 pages of the bill is a provision that allows the government to revoke your passport if they believe that you owe more than $50,000 in federal tax.

There will be no judicial review, and no due process. You don’t get to go in front of a judge first to have a fair and impartial hearing over whether or not the government’s tax allegations are accurate.

The language in the law is very clear: they can simply revoke your passport if you owe them money in their sole discretion.

Once the law is passed, this would go into effect on January 1, 2016, and they claim it will generate $40 million per year in tax revenue.

There was one more provision that proposed raising revenue from the biggest banks in America by reducing the dividend they receive from the Federal Reserve.

Curiously, though, this specific provision was defeated yesterday after a heated committee meeting in Congress.

So while the banks’ profits are off-limits, and the government will spend billions of taxpayer dollars to boost profits at Boeing, American citizens are threatened with having their passports revoked in order to raise money.

It couldn’t be any more obvious how much the system is stacked against the little guy.

They treat you like a dairy cow that exists only to be milked dry… like a medieval serf tied to the land and forced to serve his overlords.

It’s revolting. But it doesn’t have to be this way.

You can take sensible, rational steps to divorce yourself from this madness, or at least have a Plan B to protect yourself from it.

If the government is threatening to take away your passport, for example, there are countless ways you can obtain another one from a country that will roll out the red carpet for you.

If you’re sick and tired of having your income confiscated so that you can bail out big companies, there are completely legal steps you can take to reduce what you owe.

It’s hard to imagine you’ll be worse off being more free and having more control over your life and finances.

 

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Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:13 | 6818772 Hannibal
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Confirmed: Emergency personnel conducted simulated mass shooting drill just hours before Paris terror attacks

 

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Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:17 | 6818799 Tonald J Drump
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hey congress, seize this

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:26 | 6818814 ZerOhead
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"Let my tax cattle go..."

~ Moses to Pharoah @1350 B.C.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:28 | 6818845 SWRichmond
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Ex-Im is essentially a gift on a golden platter from the taxpayers of the United States to a handful of mega-companies.

It also helps support the dollar by making our trade imbalances not look quite so bad.  "Look, we actually manufacture and export something!"

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:32 | 6818864 Boris Alatovkrap
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Maybe you are think this is beginning of capital control, but really, this is country of devalued citizenship where now must population and emmigration control. How might have fallen... and so fast!

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:37 | 6818885 Ignatius
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I am in awe.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:46 | 6818921 Stuck on Zero
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If you;re a flight risk because you haven't paid your taxes then the government will take your passport so you can't come back. Does that make sense?

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:55 | 6818954 NidStyles
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Why is anyone surprised. They aren't going to let you go if you are flight risk. Especially if they want to use the IRS how it was originally intended, as a means to imprison you. 

 

Real men don't need a passport ot leave the country, they simply keep walking North or hop on a boat and never return.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 02:45 | 6820581 Dame Ednas Possum
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Q to American goyim...

Did you honestly not notice the Star of David on the front cover of your passport?

Consider it a cattle brand by your owners and masters.

Same as it ever was.

Right, lesson's over... back to grazing and waiting for your time to be called to the slaughter-house.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 08:16 | 6820779 asdasmos
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Posted Elsewhere:

"

1) The taxes are not worth the value being returned.

I don't have a problem paying taxes, so long as they go to something worthwhile. I will end up paying around 33% - an entire 1/3rd of my income - in my 2013 tax return. Yes, I am getting a refund, but when I am paying tens of thousands of dollars and not getting the services I should receive for that investment in my country, celebrating the return of a few hundred dollars seems absurd.

Where is my benefit from my government for all of this? Do I have free healthcare? No. Do I have a world class education for my child? No. Do I have any kind of guaranteed income should I lose my job? No.

No, instead, I have a country which is the only one in the world to tax its overseas citizens. A country that bails out banks who prey on those who just want a home to raise a family when they become insolvent - but when it happens to me, and I short sell my home, the IRS is there, ready to tax me on "phantom income" - forgiven debt.

I have a country that spends billions on fighting wars for political gain, but does nothing when there actually is evidence of WMD use against others. A country that hemorrhages so much money on military spending, it must turn around and take loans against my child's future - her income - in order to continue to pay for programs we don't need.

2) I'm tired of people being surprised that I'm American because I have manners, common courtesy, and the ability to see the other side of issues.

Seriously, the number of people I meet who think Americans are rascal-riding land whales (like in the movie Wall-E) with handle-bar mounted machine guns, a sack of Big Macs in the front basket, a clinical addiction to NASCAR, and a passion for the modern day artist that is Jerry Springer - it's just too much. I've been introducing myself as Canadian because apparently I'm so polite, that's where they mostly assume I'm from.

3) The fact that none of this is ever going to change, regardless of what party is in charge, and the fact that the American government continues to shred the constitution a little more each year, until it doesn't even matter anymore.

You may not think of America as a police state, but it is. Nobody's going to come grab you in the middle of the night, unless you're reported as a terrorist of some kind. At that point, just forget about "police work" and get ready for the SWAT team.

Nobody is going to take your children way from you, unless Child Protective Services is called, and someone decides - for whatever reason - that it's "in the child's best interest" to be removed.

Nobody is ever going to interfere with your access to medicine, unless you're trying to get something that isn't ridiculously expensive from another country; in that case, get ready for being charged as a drug trafficker.

Nobody is going to freeze your bank accounts, passport, and other means of movement, unless the IRS believes you haven't given them enough money. Suddenly you have debt to prove isn't there, and it will all get "sorted out" at the blistering fast speed of government efficiency. Or you could just pay the amount they say and it all ends quickly.

4) The fact that the future for my child in the US is so dark.

All this debt, and it's going to fall on her and her children. She's broke, and she doesn't even know it yet. Disgusting.

Well, I count myself fortunate that I don't own a home in the US - it affords me the ability to even consider leaving it all behind. There's so much propaganda about how wonderful America is but, when you look at it without those rosy lenses on, what you really see is horrifying.

"

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 09:54 | 6820932 Turin Turambar
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Here's your problem:

"I don't have a problem paying taxes..."

Taxation is theft.  Just because the robber tells you that he's going to do something for you after stealing your money doesn't make it okay.  SMH

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 11:20 | 6821108 BarkingCat
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As someone who has come in contact with Canadians more than once, I can tell you that those from British Columbia are much bigger assholes than even New Yorkers... and that is a very high achievement.

 

They come to Washington state quite a lot. They also travel from Bellignham Washington instead of their local Canadian airport because it is much cheaper.

One one such occasion I was so sick of their rudeness that I myself physically shoved one out of the way.  The jerk walk right in front of me.

I will day that while visiting Toronto and Montreal areas my experience with Canadians was very pleasant. British Columbia must contain the "special" Canadians.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 11:20 | 6821109 BarkingCat
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As someone who has come in contact with Canadians more than once, I can tell you that those from British Columbia are much bigger assholes than even New Yorkers... and that is a very high achievement.

 

They come to Washington state quite a lot. They also travel from Bellignham Washington instead of their local Canadian airport because it is much cheaper.

One one such occasion I was so sick of their rudeness that I myself physically shoved one out of the way.  The jerk walk right in front of me.

I will day that while visiting Toronto and Montreal areas my experience with Canadians was very pleasant. British Columbia must contain the "special" Canadians.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 12:48 | 6821322 Dame Ednas Possum
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you gotta fight... for your right... to... er... ummm... pay tax so it may be misused.

It's about the only right still remaining.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:56 | 6818965 ATM
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Who decides if you "haven't paid your taxes"? Anyone and everyone may well have paid their taxes as best anyone can discern, even the IRS.

But the tax code is such an utter cluster fuck no one can possibly know for sure whether or not they have paid the proper amount of taxes, including and especially the dumb fucks in government. 

Pre-emptively violating a persons rights without due process is called despotism.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 22:44 | 6820175 Cheduba
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What's even better is the fact that the law lists a dollar amount in taxes owed, not adjusting for inflation.  So, once the Federal Reserve paradrops millions of dollars in our accounts, we will ALL owe $50k in taxes we can't pay and buh bye American passports.

This is just like how Social Security taxes were only supposed to hit the "rich", but $35k, for example, was a LOT more money in the 30's than it is now.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 06:53 | 6820722 Urban Redneck
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In this case we only have to read the bill in order to find out what's in it... 

 

SECTION SEVEN THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED FORTY FIVE. REVOCATION OR DENIAL OF PASSPORT IN CASE OF CERTAIN TAX DELINQUENCIES.

“(a) In General.—If the Secretary receives certification by the Commissioner of Internal Revenue that any individual has a seriously delinquent tax debt in an amount in excess of $50,000, the Secretary shall transmit such certification to the Secretary of State for action with respect to denial, revocation, or limitation of a passport pursuant to section 52102(d) of the Transportation Funding Act of 2015.

“(b) Seriously Delinquent Tax Debt.—For purposes of this section, the term seriously delinquent tax debt means an outstanding debt under this title for which a notice of lien has been filed in public records pursuant to section 6323 or a notice of levy has been filed pursuant to section 6331, except that such term does not include—

“(1) a debt that is being paid in a timely manner pursuant to an agreement under section 6159 or 7122, and

“(2) a debt with respect to which collection is suspended because a collection due process hearing under section 6330, or relief under subsection (b), (c), or (f) of section 6015, is requested or pending.

“(c) Adjustment For Inflation.—In the case of a calendar year beginning after 2016, the dollar amount in subsection (a) shall be increased by an amount equal to—

“(1) such dollar amount, multiplied by

“(2) the cost-of-living adjustment determined under section 1(f)(3) for the calendar year, determined by substituting calendar year 2015 for calendar year 1992 in subparagraph (B) thereof.

If any amount as adjusted under the preceding sentence is not a multiple of $1,000, such amount shall be rounded to the next highest multiple of $1,000.”.

(b) Clerical Amendment.—The table of sections for subchapter D of chapter 75 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by adding at the end the following new item:

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 09:10 | 6820842 Cheduba
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Awesome!  So, they will adjust the cap upwards by the 0.1% CPI cost of living adjustment while real inflation rages at somewhere between 8 and 1,000 percent.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:55 | 6823193 gladius17
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Let them take my passport. I don't care. I'm not leaving this country until all of the fascists are dead and (optionally) buried. And then I will take a vacation on my new-to-me previously-owned $40 million yacht. When things get back enough, there are plenty of places for me to hide until Russia and China finish nuking the elites' underground hidey holes into glowing craters. I come out a winner and these scheming and plotting imbeciles lose, no matter how things go down.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 11:41 | 6821172 Salsa Verde
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Rigging elections
Insider trading
political assassinations
Blatant bribery
Refusing to enforce laws
introducing laws by way of order

And on and on...

This isn't despotism, this is ruling by edict.  Government is GOD now and the staff view themselves as nobles.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 10:35 | 6821019 JRobby
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Actually, if you are in any of a number of Federal Databases that feed into the Federal Payments Intercept Database

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 11:44 | 6821179 detached.amusement
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point taken about moses, but there's simply no evidence Israelites were ever present in the old egyptian records.  (=just another jewish invention)

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 17:15 | 6822081 ZerOhead
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Correct.

600,000 were said to have left but since they only counted men that means around 2 million actually left. Since the entire populatin of Egypt at that time was barely 4 million (yes they had great records of everything back then) you might expect a footnote of sorts in Egyptian history...

Instead there is none.

Also no evidence of 2 million jews spending 40 years in the Sinai desert. Perhaps they were very tidy.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:04 | 6823219 gladius17
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"Since the entire populatin of Egypt at that time was barely 4 million (yes they had great records of everything back then) you might expect a footnote of sorts in Egyptian history"

Would I?

How many ancient rulers do you know of who would be anxious to record all the details of their military defeat by a group of slaves?

And do we possess every single record of everything that ever existed in the land of Egypt?

"Also no evidence of 2 million jews spending 40 years in the Sinai desert. Perhaps they were very tidy."

So because nobody has yet found the archaelogical evidence in 2015, then it certainly doesn't exist? Today we have already found every significant archaelogical site in the entire world and nothing new is being discovered?

The books of Moses have been passed down for thousands of years. So all 600,000 or (millions) of Jews all simultaneously decided to participate in this great fiction, and even created a holiday (Passover) out of thin air to celebrate it? Moses was a liar and fabricator who made the whole thing up, and all the Jews decided to let him lead them anyway because they thought it would be great fun to participate in this work of fiction?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:57 | 6823203 gladius17
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"but there's simply no evidence"

Other than the Bible of course, which has been passed down for thousands of years before what you call "history" was even invented. But yeah, no evidence at all.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 02:39 | 6823601 Rakshas
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very correct...... history books never lie .... LHO did Kennedy my book tolds me so ...... :)

 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 13:52 | 6821513 Kirk2NCC1701
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I sure hope that Simon is not having his US Passport seized.

But then he can afford the best CPA's, to legally avoid paying taxes, by remaining offshore and -- better still -- traveling so much, that no single country can claim that he is their Tax Resident.  If he is a Resident for tax purposes in country X, then you can be sure that he pays zero tax there also, as the Foreign Income is tax free.  What a cool way to legally avoid paying taxes.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 08:00 | 6820766 JRobby
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"Another gem buried in the 864 pages of the bill is a provision that allows the government to revoke your passport if they believe that you owe more than $50,000 in federal tax."

 

$50,000! Why so high? Make it $500. Oh, you have a case pending? Stay here while you wait for it to come up on the docket.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 11:50 | 6821195 auntiesocial
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The first passport we are seizing is from Turbo Tax Timmy...

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:23 | 6818825 Bananamerican
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there are countless ways you can obtain another one (passport)

actually that article lists 4...One of them is "declare yourself a Jew and move to Israel"

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:39 | 6818898 More Ammo
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Nope, jooz be giveing DNA test for isreali citizenship...

 

http://jlb.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2015/06/16/jlb.lsv027.full

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:56 | 6818963 Boris Alatovkrap
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What if you are feel very strong that you are black lesbian woman inside?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 04:02 | 6820648 zhandax
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Even better, being considered Jewish is dependent on your mother being Jewish.  Bye-Bye Y-DNA testing.  I would love to hear how this one shakes out.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:58 | 6818970 ZerOhead
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That could bite the 75% of them that are eurasian Ashkenazi Khazars hard in the butt...

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 11:32 | 6821141 BarkingCat
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Stop spreading this bullshit. Unless you have been so blinded by your exposure to multiculturalism that you cannot discern the differences anymore, you can definitely tell most of the Jews.

Yes their bloodline has been watered down in many instances, but for most the facial features still remain.

 

Are you going to seriously tell us that when you look at someone like Chuck Schumer, you cannot tell he is Jewish???

Let me give you a little hit. Imagine a Yarmulke on top of his head. Does it look like it belongs there? If it does, you subconscious has made the connection.

Or.... maybe if you're raised in a completely multicultural society you cannot distinguish anymore. Trust me that most Europeans can, just as they can the difference between a German and someone French,.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 17:25 | 6822110 ZerOhead
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Semites are ARABS. Sorry to break the news...

http://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 12:14 | 6821247 Kirk2NCC1701
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Not if they just do a Quick Test:

Measure the eye separation (IPD / Inter-Pupillary Distance) and nose curvature. The combo is then put into a fuzzy logic LUT, and -presto!- they determine if you're a Tribesman or not.

The thing about a lot of Russian Israelis, is that they do not 'look' Jewish at all. Perhaps this troubles some orthodox rabbis.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 17:14 | 6819272 August
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The Israeli passport option is not very easy for a non-Jew to obtain through conversion.   I certainly don't know anyone who's done this, but I read that significant time and effort is required (study, synagogue attendance etc.).

I suppose the thing to do is shop around for a rabbi who needs some extra cash, and is not too picky about who he adds to the flock.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 22:32 | 6820147 kappal_toba_dhu...
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Actually it is not that difficult. You can move to Israel under a work or study visa, then attend religious classes in an ORTHODOX synagogue.  Then you can convert and immiediately be given Israeli citizenhsip.  I know one Indian who did this, but he wanted to live in Israel so it worked out just fine.  Many, usually Europeans and Americanos, do this.  But it does take time and not a good choice if all you want is a passport.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 03:59 | 6820646 Dame Ednas Possum
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And why the fuck would any sane-minded individual wish to place themself in the belly of the beast?

I'd rather slam my cock in a cash register... once every 5 seconds for eternity.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 04:22 | 6820656 NidStyles
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Israeli passport holders do not need visas to go anywhere. They are the only group that is allowed to freely travel anywhere in the world they want without restriction. 

 

 

Remember goyim, they are the chosen ones. Just ask them, and it's true because they say it is. That is why they are chosen ones...

 

Yes, that is the circular logic I have actually heard from them.  

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 05:06 | 6820685 JLee2027
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""According to Israeli law, Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Yemen and Iran are enemy countries and an Israeli citizen may not visit them without a special permit issued by the Israeli minister of the interior. ""

Israeli citizens need a VISA to visit the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Israeli_citizens

Is Wikipedia wrong or were you just caught lying your ass off?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 11:46 | 6821183 BarkingCat
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Complete bullshit. I mean holy fuck!!! Do you even check before you write such shit????/

A quick search for "China visa for Israel passport" shows that Israelli citizens need a visa to visit China.

Another quick search gave me the same result for India.

 

I then checked some of the EU countries. None of them required a Visa, but Israel does not require a visa from their citizens either. That is a visa free travel both way,.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:25 | 6818830 SILVERGEDDON
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Time for the American People to enact the IMPACT Act.

Idiot Motherfuckers Punched As Congress Traitors

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:58 | 6818972 Boris Alatovkrap
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Amerikansky is really struggle with false compulsion to create acronymn that is spell real world. Result is not alway so pretty and is betray cognitive struggle to form.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:57 | 6819189 BKbroiler
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BTFD

Bureau of Taxes, Fraud, and general Douchebaggery.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:32 | 6818860 Larry Dallas
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Gee. I can't wait to see a member of the armed forces and thank them for my "freedom"... 

I don't feel any more free than I did on September 12, 2001. 

You got maimed. For. Nothing. 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:42 | 6818907 Lumberjack
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Most of them are aware of that...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 23:28 | 6826325 Dame Ednas Possum
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And yet they queue for more?

There's a word for that... and it's certainly not 'intelligent'

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:40 | 6819130 vq1
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Exact text below:

"SEC. 7345. REVOCATION OR DENIAL OF PASSPORT IN CASE OF CERTAIN TAX DELINQUENCIES.

If the Secretary receives certification by the Commissioner of Internal Revenue that any individual has a seriously delinquent tax debt in an amount in excess of $50,000, the Secretary shall transmit such certification to the Secretary of State for action with respect to denial, revocation, or limitation of a passport pursuant to section 52102(d) of the Transportation Funding Act of 2015."


Link


https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/22/text#toc-HA2663D98EA1D4281958F6FB7872BFB85

TITLE XXXII—OFFSETS

Subtitle A—Tax Provisions


Sat, 11/21/2015 - 09:15 | 6820852 kill switch
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If the Secretary receives certification by the Commissioner of Internal Revenue that any individual has a seriously delinquent tax debt in an amount in excess of $50,000, the Secretary shall transmit such certification to the Secretary of State for action with respect to denial, revocation, or limitation of a passport pursuant to section 52102(d) of the Transportation Funding Act of 2015."

 

Hey Sharpton, you be fucked...

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 08:06 | 6820770 doctor10
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so where do we go to "seize Congress" for having voted on a bill they never read, subsequently claim it "passed" and has since demolished what was left of a national economy after 2008?

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:14 | 6818782 Buckaroo Banzai
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Get back in your harness, you miserable tax donkey! GEE! GEE!

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:52 | 6818942 SILVERGEDDON
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I think I have seen this movie before.

TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.

It ended badly for the assholes in charge back then as well.

Last major change in leadership was 1776.

It might just be time for some house cleaning again.

Maybe armed forces members remember their oath to safeguard the Constitution, not the POTB.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:43 | 6819143 Abitdodgie
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There was no change of leadership n 1776 and by the time the treaty of paris was signed in 1781 King George got the lot for the CROWN corporation and all those people died for nothing, America was sold out.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:51 | 6819167 SILVERGEDDON
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Details, my man, mere details.

We still got George Washington, and the Constitution.

You gotta stop with the negative vibes, man.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 09:57 | 6820939 Turin Turambar
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Yeah, and that freedom won lasted all of about 11 years until the coup that is the US Constitution usurped the Articles of Confederation.  Centralizers FTW!

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:16 | 6818791 City_Of_Champyinz
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Useless corrupt assholes, just about every single one.  Pitiful.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:22 | 6818793 flysofree
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I don't have a passport nor do I owe the government taxes, what's it has to do with me? No, I don't want to move to Philippines, Latvia or Kwajalein atoll to exploit the locals either like some White men suggest.

What's the difference between Simon Black and Steven Schwarzman? They are both finance niggers.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:55 | 6818960 Ms No
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"nor do I owe the government taxes"

The problem with that is you don't decide if you owe taxes.... they do.  They also decide who to target with audits and have the ability to eliminate rules about how far they can go back.  If motivated enough they can find something on you from way back that has accrued a great deal of interest.  Like the political audits of recent past it is really up to them.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 04:53 | 6819287 August
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Those penalties and interest add up fast.  In New Zealand they can be discharged through bankruptcy; how about in the Land of the Free?

Of course, if the Fed moves to NIRP, the IRS will be paying you to cheat on your taxes....

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:29 | 6819082 vq1
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you really should get out and travel a bit.... you know, see the world... other cultures... 

oh nevermind. 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 17:00 | 6819206 BKbroiler
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you know, see the world... other cultures... 

"meet new and interesting people... and kill them"

When I was a kid there were army shirts that said this.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 17:02 | 6819214 vq1
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very nice. 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 12:20 | 6821269 BarkingCat
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I remember those as well.

I did not realize at the time how honest that statement was.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 17:24 | 6819320 Mariposa de Oro
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How and what do you know about kwajalein atoll?  Tell me how the locals are 'exploited', please.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 04:41 | 6820670 Vendetta
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maybe a few that got cooked by the high power radar transmissions before they put mechanical stops on the moving antenna's.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:17 | 6818794 semperfi
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back to the days of the king's tax collectors pilliaging the serfs, ranksacking the villiages, raping their cattle, etc

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:22 | 6818818 chunga
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If I were king I'd send all the politicians to gitmo.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:57 | 6818968 stacking12321
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including the king?

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:44 | 6818913 Skiprrrdog
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Hey, NOBODY is rapin Bossie on my watch...

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 13:26 | 6821434 BarkingCat
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I will bring her clover hay and oats. It will not be rape.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 17:56 | 6819438 COL Jackson
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Im ok with it if I could get a job in the IRS Prima Nocta division.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:17 | 6818797 Kolchak
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They need to fund their keepers, that's all the funding they desire.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:18 | 6818801 cheech_wizard
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:18 | 6818802 Trick Shroadé
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Minor detail but if you owe more than $50,000 in federal tax you're not the little guy.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:21 | 6818810 CPL
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If you make 40k a year and don't pay your taxes for two years that's around 50k with interest.  So shut the fuck.  You've never worked a day in your life or run a business.  Lazy slob.  Get your sorry ass back to school slave.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:30 | 6818849 Mr. Schmilkies
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If you owe taxes, the IRS is supposed to go after you.  Why do we need this stuck in a transportation bill? 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:49 | 6818934 Government need...
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Exactly.  This should be a separate piece of legislation and demonstrates how corrupt this .gov is.  When passed, this is going to enable a new, higher wave of tyranny to wash over the land.  

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:17 | 6819037 dchang0
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We definitely don't need this hidden in any other bill, but to answer your statement "the IRS is supposed to go after you," the IRS has mismanaged their huge budget so badly they can't even do one of their most basic functions: tax enforcement.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 05:41 | 6820701 duck dodgers
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You are a moron.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 14:17 | 6821565 robobbob
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apparently you have little experience with business tax especially in the sole proprietor/partnership type where business income is carried through on your personal tax returns.

even that ma an pa corner store or guy in a pick up truck contractor can turn a few hundred thousand or even a mill a year GROSS.

one misapplied regulation can take you from zero to $50K in the blink of an eye.

throw on penalties and interest............

and the fact that its what THEY say you owe, then its up to you to prove otherwise.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:18 | 6818803 A Lunatic
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Baaaaa...... Baaaaaaaaaaaa.........

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:19 | 6818805 CPL
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It's about the dumbest idea I've heard in a while.  With most people broke, ain't no one going far are they?  Now what's really happening?  Someone is using the immigration systems to launder money again by creating the situation to increase the balance sheet on foreign policy concerns regarding immigration since it is usually overlooked as a funnel for drugs, arms, people and the usual shenanigans.  Wonder what's coming next?  Cheap afghani heroin flooding the market to fund black ops.  Iran-Contra car parts for guns.  Cut rate passport sales.  Maybe some Nuclear materials listed in the fine print of an energy bill/provisio for immigration policy.

The more things change...the more they stay the same.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:20 | 6818806 seek
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Since they already have multiple years of 1040s, it'll be trivial to pass a retroactive income tax (disguised as a wealth tax) overnight, and then lock down the borders when people with money try to leave.

Only a matter of time before they just start directly sucking it out of your accounts, this is just preparation for the inevitable canibalization of the banking system during its last days.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:23 | 6818826 Jethro
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Ha! We'll be our own roach motel then. It'd be better to ringfence DC to isolate the real vermin though

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:33 | 6818870 SWRichmond
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Only a matter of time before they just start directly sucking it out of your accounts, this is just preparation for the inevitable canibalization of the banking system during its last days.

Cashless society will be followed in microseconds by NIRP.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:05 | 6818988 ATM
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They already suck money directly out of your accounts. It's called inflation.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:22 | 6818816 semperfi
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America has morphed into a place where people who exhibit the following traits are the enemy of the govt, to be harassed and punished and stolen from:

decency
morality
honesty
hard-working
industrious
entrepenurial
law-abiding

 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:23 | 6818823 Max Steel
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Seize my passport ? Are they expecting amerikans to drop their passports in an unplanned false flag event ?

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:25 | 6818831 Jethro
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Hmmm, $50,000? Still more than GE pays in taxes.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:25 | 6818832 petroglyph
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Combine the 50k tax debt as a reason to confiscate citizens passports with the fact that a baby born today already owes more than 70k and you got a recipe to build a wall. Not to keep illegals out but to keep the sheep in. winning

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:26 | 6818836 Duc888
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Land of the free.

Ayup. As long as you pay the slave tax.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:26 | 6818837 GRDguy
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I wonder what kind of speech refugees are given to convince them to give up money to unknown persons for the chance to be free.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:31 | 6818855 world_debt_slave
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I think back child support of 2k will get your passport taken away

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:37 | 6818887 Skiprrrdog
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Yup, that and also thrown in jail, without any type of due process whatsoever.

Revolution, anyone?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 09:31 | 6820888 gonetogalt
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Over the past 10 years two of my gold miner buddies were going to join me in S.A. Neither could get passports over this very child support issue. One ate his .45, the other died and I suspect suicide but it may have just been frustration.

2 good ones down. Fuck .gov.

Beware the Lamb!!!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 13:31 | 6821448 BarkingCat
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What the fuck is S.A???

 

I used to hear it used for South Africa and now more recently Saudi Arabia.

 

A better queston is why would anyone want to go to either of these places????

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 13:56 | 6821524 gonetogalt
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Sorry, I meant South America.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:33 | 6818866 yomutti
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Hmmmm, maybe I'd better pick up an israeli passport.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:36 | 6818867 Skiprrrdog
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Once the law is passed, this would go into effect on January 1, 2016, and they claim it will generate $40 million per year in tax revenue.

 

It seems to me we could save 40 million a second by just sending all washington douche nozzles home. Seven years ago, when they were busy blowing smoke up our collective asses with warm and fuzzy notions like 'green shoots' and 'shovel ready projects', if they had actually done these things instead of funneling money to the bankers and wall street whores, our 'infrastructure' would be fixed already. Our infrastructure was fucked seven years ago, and it remains fucked to this day. And we are supposed to believe them now, *because?* Fuck you congressional whores, fuck you obooboo, screw every lying, scheming, sleazy, worthless washington POS who draws paychecks on the backs of the people. Guess what assholes...I am not listening or otherwise paying attention to you any longer. I have not worked a job or paid taxes in over THREE YEARS.. and you know what, that will change when you do, which is to say, NEVER. You dont like it? Who cares!

Happy Holidays gubmint bitches,

Someone who used to give a fuck

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 14:08 | 6821546 BarkingCat
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Yesterday I heard that the new government in Poland is investigating missing money and sending members of the previous government to jail.

I do not have any other details beside the fact the the new Prime Minister is raging about it and wants to know what happened to the people's money.

Amazing, those evil nationalists actually care about their own people!!! How dare they!!

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:35 | 6818878 Government need...
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What about the debtor and political prisons?  When will these be open for business?

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:40 | 6818901 Skiprrrdog
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Debtor prisons are illegal...errr, only when they are not...

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:36 | 6818880 Herdee
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Move to Detroit.You can buy polluted,radioactive,cadmium contaminated land really cheap.Don't you see the federal plan?You sell out the manufacturing base of the country to comminist china because you need the money for war.Bombing everybody around the world so that they go to Europe.You then milk what's left from all the poor working at McDonalds.Return to your roots but first you'll have to clean up the industrial wasteland.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 15:02 | 6821566 BarkingCat
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They would not go to Europe if European governments did their job - protected the borders of their nations.

Iraq got bombed back to the store ages over 10 years ago and there was not a flood of Iraqis going to Europe.

Lebanon has been in a semi state of war for about 50 years. Europe has not had been flooded by the Lebanese.

 

Make no mistake. The current flood of invaders is a organized effort and has nothing to do with US or any other military activity in the Middle East.

There is a entire horde of black Africans coming as well. They are not from the Middle East.

 

As a side note. Last year or early this year while flying I saw a preview for a movie about some poor boy from Latin or South America immigrating to Germany.

This was before the flood of human locust descended upon Europe.

I find it interesting that such a movie was made immediately before all this occurred.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 15:09 | 6821701 FredFlintstone
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How does that transaction work excatly? A company moves manufacturing overseas and how is our government able to gain more money? Sounds plausible, but I cannot put it together.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:38 | 6818893 TrumpXVI
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We revoked the passports of some folks.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:39 | 6818894 LawsofPhysics
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Please, such "laws" are for the sheeple, not the oligarchs and lords...

 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:40 | 6818902 nobodysfool
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Ok fine...but like someone else said Look in your own backyard First before you come calling on the public you useless hypocritical pond scum...

Federal Employees Owe $3.5 Billion in Back Taxes!

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/01/15/irs-complains-about...

 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:47 | 6818918 Government need...
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Duh.  Fedbots will be exempt from any enforcement action related to the proposed legislation.  You see, as with all other US law these days, enforcement is selective.  Like the IRS only fucking with right-leaning non-profits.  And the nigger in charge of the Dept of 'Just-Us' only prosecuting select cases . . . . like the decision not to prosecute the Black Panthers involved in voter intimidation in Philly.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:41 | 6818903 IridiumRebel
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Public flogging should be soon to follow.....and "First Night" ventures into your daughter's lives.....

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:50 | 6818914 conspicio
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Politically weaponize all the agencies all the time. DONE.

Arm them to the teeth with weapons and ammo. DONE.

Ignore any and all laws and seek anti-citizen interpretations of all existing laws. DONE. ONGOING.

Encourage bureaucrats to adopt socialist/fascist mentality. DONE

NEXT!

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:44 | 6818917 kiwimail
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This "law" will be used to punish American expats living overseas.  I would expect to see large numbers of people identified through the FATCA program receiving orders to surrender their passports to the nearest embassy.  .gov does not want to lose control of any of their sheep.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:48 | 6818930 Government need...
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It will go much further than that.  This is all a warmup to Fedcoat Krystallnacht.  Plan accordingly.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:49 | 6818932 Ms No
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So do we have to bring our last 7 years of taxes to the border/airport to be cleared before departure yet?  I can just see a mean little IRS agent with a magnifying glass at the gates.

On the brights side at least we are "standing in awe" rather than running for our lives in awe... that has to be a positive.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:39 | 6819126 divedivedive
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They will make the tax check part of qualifying for GlobalEntry. Then they will require each passport holder to enroll - at $100 USD a pop. That is another way for them to raise funds.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:49 | 6818935 divedivedive
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We don't owe any taxes - but I'm kind of glad I'm not that far off from having two passports - just in case.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:55 | 6818961 Government need...
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This paves the way for locking you down in the US if your Obamacare premia/penalties are not fully paid.  The problem with the IRS is the upside down burden of proof in the legal system that forces a defendant to prove their innocence.  This will result in a lot of pain, including political figures getting dead.  .Gov is aggressively amping up the tyrannical pressure on the US citizens. My suggestion: if you want justice, buy guns and ammo.  This nation's corrupt political cadre is recklessly steering the nation into war abroad and domestically.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 15:58 | 6818969 Albertarocks
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Entrapment.  The gov't knows there will be plenty of reasons 3 or 4 years from now for a mass exodus from the USA.  And they sure don't want the "useless eaters" to be escaping when the Rotschild mafia and the fascist corporations are counting on these unwashed masses to foot the bill for their war games.  Not to mention the $16T in debt that the gov't already owes.  No sir, escape is reserved for the likes of Dick Cheney, whose real first name by the way, is Harvey.  They call him Dick for a reason.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:09 | 6819009 Jethro
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I wonder what will happen, should the Fed raise rates, and subsequently lose control, crashing the RE market...drastically reducing home prices, leaving people upside down on their loans, and (just wargaming here...) unable to discharge their debt because the government has assumed the backing on their mortgages, sort of like student loan debt? You'd entrap over half of the RE market that way.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 15:20 | 6821733 BarkingCat
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Different things will happen depending on circumstances, but most people will try their best effort at preservation. It is human nature.

 

I know one guy who got into some legal trouble few years back. His fines and court fees got high enough that he said "fuck it". He quit trying to work legally. Any work that he did was for cash under the table.

He did this because there was so much taken from his wages that it quit being worth it for him to have a job.

Instead he got on food stamps and medicaid, moved in with his mother, went back to drinking and likely doing drugs and generally gave up on life.

He's really not that great of an example because it was doing drugs and drinking that got him in trouble to begin with..... but his reaction to the financial  burden resulting from it is.

Every person has a breaking point. They get pushed past that point and a different side of their nature emerges. Some, like that guy in Texas will fly their Cessna into an IRS office, others will blow their brains alone somewhere, others will get involved politically and then some get off the grid.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:13 | 6819018 rejected
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Like we beloved americano's have somewhere to go and the means to fund it. Most, if not all the 1% bankers (and other "elite") have several pass a portes.They could give a rats ass.

Again,,, this is to secure the "little people" from those evil liberty lovers. .

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 03:19 | 6820616 JamaicaJim
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Here's hoping that motherfucking cunt's sewn in heart explodes, and he dies a slow painful death, lasting hours......shitting his pants and puking blood....

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 05:04 | 6820683 August
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Jeez...  I'd be happy with a head shot.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 13:43 | 6821476 JamaicaJim
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No August....no....Cheney needs a special way to bite it. I hope in time for the holidays!

 

For the shit he's done....a special way. LOTS of others need mere head shots....but Cheney? A good explosion, followed by frantic attempts to save his life, lots and lots of pain....then shitapalooza and pukapalooza

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:05 | 6818991 Dragon HAwk
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Can't i just walk backwards across the Mexican Border, nobody will touch me... then i am out of the country..

  passports are for honest people.. unfortunately at some point you have to show something to prove you are somebody to somebody crooked..

 your right it's all slavery cleverly hidden..

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:07 | 6818993 rejected
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Good thing we're a crooked bunch of scamming sob's... otherwise what would Simon (and others) have to write about and ZH print?

At least Criminal Nation has something to offer!

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:08 | 6819001 Mat Cauthon
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Well hell, they were doing this same thing back in 2012 with the highway bill.

http://www.thedailyeconomist.com/2012/03/bill-in-congress-could-suspend-your.html

 

 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:27 | 6819030 Mike Masr
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"Clearly the government needs cash. They need to fund Ex-Im, the Highway Trust Fund, and all the improvements for America’s dilapidated infrastructure".

 

Why do we have enough money to host 500,000 syrian refugees? Finance regime changes all over the globe? And why do we have enough to give hundreds of billions of dollars to so-called moderate anti-Assad maggots? And enough to give billions to corrupt ukrainian banderist thugs in Kiev?   

We spend trillions to keep the new American century war mongering masochist degenerates satiated. Keep them happy with more suffering, anguish, pain and death worldwide, but we don't have enough money to care for our own elderly, veterans and civil infrastructure.

And these hypocritical morons accuse Putin's Government of being corrupt. Sort of like the pot calling the kettle black ey? 


Sat, 11/21/2015 - 05:16 | 6820690 August
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Speaking of PNAC war-mongering degenerates, Ex-CIA Chief Woolsey says he would give Snowden a death sentence, and would like to see him hanged.  But he didn't specify piano wire, so there's that.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3327298/Ex-CIA-head-James-Woolse...

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 05:41 | 6820700 Max Cynical
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Resettling Middle Eastern Refugees Costs Taxpayers $64,370 Per Refugee

91 percent of refugees receive food stamps, 68 percent receive cash assistance

http://freebeacon.com/issues/resettling-middle-eastern-refugees-costs-ta...

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:19 | 6819044 All Out Of Bubblegum
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Up next: Congress wants to seize your family members for unpaid taxes.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:25 | 6819068 aztrader
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THis must mean that a lot of government employees will lose their passports and not be able to take their luxurious vacations on the taxpayers nut.............NOT!  Since there are a couple of billion in back taxes owed by these employees, we would think that they are part of this scam to loot the public.  Will Al Sharpton be locked down?  Who wants to guess..........

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:32 | 6819093 toadold
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I'm going long on the fake pasport business. For an extra 500 bucks a diplomatic pass port so you cnn take you stuff out in sealed luggage.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 22:08 | 6820080 kappal_toba_dhu...
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And get you arrested and thrown in jail. 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 15:28 | 6821761 BarkingCat
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That would have worked in the past decades. Today with everything online and having instant access and all the other stuff built into the passport this will not work. The only ones being able to get fake passports are intelligence agencies and even there the possibilities will be limited.

 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:28 | 6819078 robertocarlos
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Here's how you obtain sweet freedom.  Travel to Fargo ND. Jump in river. Float to land of milk and honey. 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:38 | 6819120 Yen Cross
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  This is fucking hilarious and completely unenforceable. Dual citizens, work VISA, and illegals are the major problem, and this does NOTHING to address those issues.

 American citizens living and working abroad, small businesses, and the middle class are once again getting royally fucked up the poop shute.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:51 | 6819168 divedivedive
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I'm a US expat - about to be a dual citizen. I pay my US taxes. So ...

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 17:07 | 6819240 Yen Cross
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    The U.S. is your 1st country. I'm speaking of the people that gain U.S. citizenship, and run back to their native counties to avoid tax liability.

 If you were smart you'ld give up your U.S. passport after you gain dual citizenship. It's absolute theft for you to be required to pay taxes while working abroad.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 17:19 | 6819292 divedivedive
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I do think about it. There is the exit tax to consider. Also - believe it or not - income taxes would be higher if paid here. 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 20:46 | 6819888 Yen Cross
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       With all respect, I'm fairly certain you fit within the guidelines of the minimum exit tax requirements.

   Exit tax on renunciants | A Guide To Relinquishing or Renouncing U.S. Citizenship – RenunciationGuide.com

   You clearly want to maintain U.S. citizenship for job security, or personal reasons. Assuming the Country you're expatriating to has higher taxes, you're still better off paying income taxes in one domicile, vs several for the sheer cost and burden of proving income.

 I'm not here to educate you, but it sounds like you have a highly skilled profession that enables you to travel and work in distant locales, and you've decided to reside in one of them.

 You have a good income and probably pension benefits, and can't write off your U.S. based income vs the higher tax rate locale, or the tax brackets of the higher locale give fewer deductions, based on your income scale.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 22:18 | 6820119 kappal_toba_dhu...
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EXACTLY!  Give up that damned thing. It is not worth keeping. 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 22:17 | 6820117 kappal_toba_dhu...
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Excellent  thing you are doing to get another citizenship.  Also consider renouncing in the near future. 

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 22:16 | 6820111 kappal_toba_dhu...
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Dual citizens are not the problem. In fact, they are suffering as well.  My husband and I both gave up our green cards once we left USA but our boys, who were born there, are stuck with USA citizenships for now (they both plan to renounce at 21).   They are NOT the problem.   A completely flat-assed broke USA economy is, and I see nothing on  the horizon that will change the calamity that is on the way.

BTW, we have to cough up about USD2,500 per son for the ransom money (renunciation fees) that USA government imposes to be free. I still say it is a small price to pay for freedom.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 15:33 | 6821783 BarkingCat
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I bet you wish you had your kids outside the country.

That wouls be ironic. Mexicans and Latin Americans try to sneak into the US so they can drop an ancor baby while some people in the future might consider having kids in another jurisdiction.

 

 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:47 | 6823167 kappal_toba_dhu...
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USA was not that bad so many years back. Now it is just one big fuck hole, sorry-to-say.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 06:45 | 6820719 GreatUncle
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American or any other citizen, it is what elite controlled governments do...

The thing about being a decent person they are the easiest person for government to shaft and they know it whilst the decent person at least attempts to follow their rules that are detrimental to them.

Comes a time though when decent people need to wake up to how government is abusing them and become dishonest for a change.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 16:52 | 6819125 Yonathan Zwift
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Ahh... the sounds of the Nazi Regime coming out from under cover!  Question for all you Zero Hedgers ... what happens when the Department of Transportation requires a US Passport for interstate travel (ie. to fly anywhere WITHIN the Continental US)???  How about when compounded with this recent IRS/Transportation LAW?

 

Does this IRS Rule start to sound just a little more ominous?  Take a look at this recent report from King TV5 in Seattle:

http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/2015/10/30/want-fly-you-may-need-u...

 

How does one pay an IRS bill when one can't hold a job that requires travel between the States?  

 

I've been sharpening my pitchfork ... thing is ... I can't seem to find my lighter! 

 

Oh, and for those ZH's that claim the gubmint needs more money (thus greater tax adherence) - consider: why not just print a little more?  They are currently printing a few trillion a year right now ... how much more is a single lump sum of $348M?  That's not even interest on the marginal capital borrowed LAST MONTH to cover the national debt.  No, this sneaky little law is all about closing the borders to US citizens so you can't get away from the coming tyrrany.  

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