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Three "Do You Believe In Crude Oil Miracles" Charts

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It appears European and US oil & gas stock investors (and Dow Transports lovers) believe they know better than commodity traders when it comes to some kind of future reality in which miracles of growth can happen. The disconnect between European oil & gas stocks, US energy stocks, and Trannies relative to crude oil has never been bigger...

 

What happened last time EU oil & gas stocks were this decoupled?

Here's what one energy specialist said...

Pascal Menges, energy fund manager at Lombard Odier Asset Management in Geneva, says in e-mailed comments that recent outperformance attributed to 3Q earnings that “were not so bad,” helping attract attention to “perceived” div. yield sustainability of large cos.

 

Says 4Q results “likely to be very tough,” with oil price, refining margins down sequentially

 

Sees possibility that 4Q results in early 2016 “could surprise generalists,” referring to certain shareholders

 

Adds that generalists who have been buying European integrateds due to “sanctity of dividend might get worries”; with 4Q possibly illustrating “how uncovered those dividends are”

In other words, he is, as politely as possible saying - what are these idiots thinking?

But it's not just the Europeans...

What happened last time US Energy stocks were this decoupled?

 

What happened last time Dow Transports were this decoupled?

 

Hint - Stocks Tanked!

Charts: Bloomberg

Bonus Chart: Energy credit is not buying it...

 

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Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:15 | 6817990 LawsofPhysics
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No.  I do know however that if you have access to consumable calories you can do and build some really useful shit.

the spice must flow...


Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:17 | 6817998 HedgeAccordingly
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we cannot consume oil fast enough.. in MARCH stories about so much oil.. 

The World Has Extracted More Crude Oil Than It Knows What to Do With
Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:20 | 6818014 LawsofPhysics
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"we cannot consume oil fast enough.."  LOL!!!   Over what time period?

Are you suggesting that the energy required to extract all that oil is going down?

 Yes.  It is nice to have surpluses (for as long as they last).  How about price discovery?  How important do you think that is, especially to companies that actually do more than simply push fucking paper around?

enlighten us.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:23 | 6818030 GrowerJohn
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It's a great time to learn about Bitcoin!

 

http://www.BitcoinTeaching.com

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:34 | 6818070 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, Blythe Masters agrees...

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:45 | 6818118 scintillator9
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LOL, one of my friends was going on about bitcoin, and was clueless about who she is.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:54 | 6818160 Tarshatha
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Bought USO 15Nov27 Calls, SP $13

 

Because fundamentals don't matter

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 13:36 | 6818361 MadVladtheconquerer
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EXACTLY!  Turdollars!  The more you eat, the more you shit; the more you shit, the wealthier you get!

Turdollars all around! 

Turdollars never go down! 

Grow your turd piles to the sky!

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Fri, 11/20/2015 - 14:27 | 6818590 sgorem
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"The disconnect between European oil & gas stocks, US energy stocks, and Trannies relative to crude oil has never been bigger..."Tylers, do think it's appropriate to still use the word "Trannies" on such a politically correct forum as ZH? If so, then I'll have to rethink my free subscription going forward, backwards, or sideways.s

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:17 | 6818004 RealistDuJour
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You know what would be real interesting?  Seeing a chart with a longer scale.  What has history taught us about the ability of the equity market to reflect the future prospects of oil?

I wonder if it would crush the shortsightedness of this article...?

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:22 | 6818021 firstdivision
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Do you believe you can borrow cheaply to buy back shares of your company on the open market into perpatuity? https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=2CU0

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:22 | 6818022 Chia-Pet
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Bullish Oil & Gas

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:22 | 6818024 aliki
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don't worry tho, its a good thing we're not mis-pricing risk:

TOM LEE: Stocks are the new bonds

http://www.businessinsider.com/dividend-yields-higher-than-bond-yields-2015-11

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:24 | 6818035 ghostzapper
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They never tire of scraping up pennies in front of a steamroller.  

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:34 | 6818072 Your guess is a...
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Easyjet hedged their fuels costs badly, so are cutting costs by just providing food in tubes on their flights.

They're starting off with tubes of peas and lemons, and are rebranding the airline as "EasyPeasyLemonSqueezyJet".

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 13:43 | 6818390 EddieLomax
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If they actually provided food it would be an improvement, and I don't know how they managed to engineer a chair that is so uncomfortable myself, a plastic stool would be better, or just standing...

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 02:43 | 6820579 Your guess is a...
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You are charged with having no sense of humour, the evidence is thus: "EasyPeasyLemonSqueezyJet"

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:37 | 6818087 shortonoil
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The Hills Group.org Since 1975 the energy to produce petroleum, and its products has increased 433%.

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 13:54 | 6818450 TomJoad
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As measured in what? ergs? calories? fiatscos?

Jump! You Fuckers!

Fri, 11/20/2015 - 13:30 | 6818321 MadVladtheconquerer
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I do!  I do!

I believe in miracles, you sexy thing:

boom boomboomboomboom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Em7IRHvArk

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