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"Barrel Bombs" And Bullshit: The Tangled Threads Of Washington Lies About Syria And Russia

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Submitted by Robert Parry via ConsortiumNews.com,

One way to view Official Washington is to envision a giant bubble that serves as a hothouse for growing genetically modified “group thinks.” Most inhabitants of the bubble praise these creations as glorious and beyond reproach, but a few dissenters note how strange and dangerous these products are. Those critics, however, are then banished from the bubble, leaving behind an evermore concentrated consensus.

This process could be almost comical – as the many armchair warriors repeat What Everyone Knows to Be True as self-justifying proof that more and more wars and confrontations are needed – but the United States is the most powerful nation on earth and its fallacious “group thinks” are spreading a widening arc of chaos and death around the globe.

President Barack Obama meets with his national security advisors in the Situation Room of the White House, Aug. 7, 2014. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

President Barack Obama meets with his national security advisors in the Situation Room of the White House, Aug. 7, 2014. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

We even have presidential candidates, especially among the Republicans but including former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, competing to out-bellicose each other, treating an invasion of Syria as the least one can do and some even bragging about how they might like to shoot down a few Russian warplanes.

Though President Barack Obama has dragged his heels regarding some of the more extreme proposals, he still falls in line with the “group think,” continuing to insist on “regime change” in Syria (President Bashar al-Assad “must go”), permitting the supply of sophisticated weapons to Sunni jihadists (including TOW anti-tank missiles to Ahrar ash-Sham, a jihadist group founded by Al Qaeda veterans and fighting alongside Al Qaeda’s Nusra Front), and allowing his staff to personally insult Russian President Vladimir Putin (having White House spokesman Josh Earnest in September demean Putin’s posture for sitting with his legs apart during a Kremlin meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu).

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow on Sept. 21, 2015.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow on Sept. 21, 2015.

Not surprisingly, I guess, Earnest’s prissy disapproval of what is commonly called “man spread” didn’t extend to Netanyahu who adopted the same open-leg posture in the meeting with Putin on Sept. 21 and again in last week’s meeting with Obama, who – it should be noted – sat with his legs primly crossed.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with U.S. President Barack Obama in the White House on Nov. 9, 2015. (Photo credit: Raphael Ahren/Times of Israel)

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with U.S. President Barack Obama in the White House on Nov. 9, 2015. (Photo credit: Raphael Ahren/Times of Israel)

This combination of tough talk, crude insults and reckless support of Al Qaeda-connected jihadis (“our guys”) apparently has become de rigueur in Official Washington, which remains dominated by the foreign policy ideology of neoconservatives, who established the goal of “regime change” in Iraq, Syria and Iran as early as 1996 and haven’t changed course since. [See Consortiumnews.com’s “How Neocons Destabilized Europe.”]

Shaping Narratives

Despite the catastrophic Iraq War – based on neocon-driven falsehoods about WMD and the complicit unthinking “group think” – the neocons retained their influence largely through an alliance with “liberal interventionists” and their combined domination of major Washington think tanks, from the American Enterprise Institute to the Brookings Institution, and the mainstream U.S. news media, including The Washington Post and The New York Times.

This power base has allowed the neocons to continue shaping Official Washington’s narratives regardless of what the actual facts are. For instance, a Post editorial on Thursday repeated the claim that Assad’s “atrocities” included use of chemical weapons, an apparent reference to the now largely discredited claim that Assad’s forces were responsible for a sarin gas attack outside Damascus on Aug. 21, 2013.

After the attack, there was a rush to judgment by the U.S. State Department blaming Assad’s troops and leading Secretary of State John Kerry to threaten retaliatory strikes against the Syrian military. But U.S. intelligence analysts refused to sign on to the hasty conclusions, contributing to President Obama’s last-minute decision to hold off on a bombing campaign and to accept Putin’s help in negotiating Assad’s surrender of all Syrian chemical weapons (though Assad still denied a role in the sarin attack).

Subsequently, much of the slapdash case for bombing Syria fell apart. As more evidence became available, it increasingly appeared that the sarin attack was a provocation by Sunni jihadists, possibly aided by Turkish intelligence, to trick the United States into destroying Assad’s military and thus clearing the way for a Sunni jihadist victory.

We now know that the likely beneficiaries of such a U.S. attack would have been Al Qaeda’s Nusra Front and the spinoff known as the Islamic State (also called ISIS, ISIL or Daesh). But the Obama administration never formally retracted its spurious sarin claims, thus allowing irresponsible media outlets, such as The Washington Post, to continue citing the outdated “group think.”

The same Post editorial denounced Assad for using “barrel bombs” against the Sunni rebels who are seeking to overthrow his secular government, which is viewed as the protector of Syria’s minorities – including Christians, Alawites and Shiites – who could face genocide if the Sunni extremists prevail.

Though this “barrel bomb” theme has become a favorite talking point of both the neocons and liberal “human rights” groups, it’s never been clear how these homemade explosive devices shoved out of helicopters are any more inhumane than the massive volumes of “shock and awe” ordnance, including 500-pound bombs, deployed by the U.S. military across the Middle East, killing not only targeted fighters but innocent civilians.

Nevertheless, the refrain “barrel bombs” is accepted across Official Washington as a worthy argument for launching devastating airstrikes against Syrian government targets, even if such attacks clear the way for Al Qaeda’s allies and offshoots gaining control of Damascus and unleashing even a worse humanitarian cataclysm. [See Consortiumnews.com’s “Obama’s Ludicrous ‘Barrel Bomb’ Theme.”]

False-Narrative Knots

But it is now almost impossible for Official Washington to disentangle itself from all the false narratives that the neocons and the liberal hawks have spun in support of their various “regime change” strategies. Plus, there are few people left inside the bubble who even recognize how false these narratives are.

So, the American people are left with the mainstream U.S. news media endlessly repeating storylines that are either completely false or highly exaggerated. For instance, we hear again and again that the Russians intervened in the Syrian conflict promising to strike only ISIS but then broke their word by attacking Al Qaeda’s Nusra Front and “our guys” in Sunni jihadist forces armed by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and the CIA.

Though you hear this narrative everywhere in Official Washington, no one ever actually quotes Putin or another senior Russian official promising to strike only at ISIS. In all the quotes that I’ve seen, the Russians refer to attacking “terrorists,” including but not limited to ISIS.

Unless Official Washington no longer regards Al Qaeda as a terrorist organization – a trial balloon that some neocons have floated – then the Putin-lied narrative makes no sense, even though every Important Person Knows It to Be True, including Obama’s neocon-leaning Defense Secretary Ashton Carter.

The U.S. political and media big shots also mock the current Russian-Iranian proposal for first stabilizing Syria and then letting the Syrian people decide their own leadership through internationally observed democratic elections.

Okay, you might say, what’s wrong with letting the Syrian people go to the polls and pick their own leaders? But that just shows that you’re a Russian-Iranian “apologist” who doesn’t belong inside the bubble. The Right Answer is that “Assad Must Go!” whatever the Syrian people might think.

Or, as the snarky neocon editors of The Washington Post wrote on Thursday, “Mr. Putin duly dispatched his foreign minister to talks in Vienna last weekend on a Syrian political settlement. But Moscow and Tehran continue to push for terms that would leave Mr. Assad in power for 18 months or longer, while — in theory — a new constitution is drafted and elections organized. Even a U.S. proposal that Mr. Assad be excluded from the eventual elections was rejected, according to Iranian officials.”

In other words, the U.S. government doesn’t want the Syrian people to decide whether Assad should be kicked out, an odd and contradictory stance since President Obama keeps insisting that the vast majority of Syrians hate Assad. If that’s indeed the case, why not let free-and-fair elections prove the point? Or is Obama so enthralled by the neocon insistence of “regime change” for governments on Israel’s “hit list” that he doesn’t want to take the chance of the Syrian voters getting in the way?

Reality Tied Down

But truth and reality have become in Official Washington something like Gulliver being tied down by the Lilliputians. There are so many strands of lies and distortions that it’s impossible for sanity to rise up.

Another major factor in America’s crisis of false narratives relates to the demonizing of Russia and Putin, a process that dates back in earnest to 2013 when Putin helped Obama sidetrack the neocon dream of bombing Syria and then Putin compounded his offense by assisting Obama in getting Iran to constrain its nuclear program, which derailed another neocon dream to bomb-bomb-bomb Iran.

It became ominously clear to the neocons that this collaboration between the two presidents might even lead to joint pressure on Israel to finally reach a peace agreement with the Palestinians, a possibility that struck too close to the heart of neocon thinking which, for the past two decades, has favored using “regime change” in nearby countries to isolate and starve Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Palestinian groups, giving Israel a free hand to do whatever it wished.

So, this Obama-Putin relationship had to be blown up and the point of detonation was Ukraine on Russia’s border. Official Washington’s false narratives around the Ukraine crisis are now also central to neocon/liberal-hawk efforts to prevent meaningful coordination between Obama and Putin in countering ISIS and Al Qaeda in Syria and Iraq.

Inside Official Washington’s bubble, the crisis in Ukraine is routinely described as a simple case of Russian “aggression” against Ukraine, including an “invasion” of Crimea.

If you relied on The New York Times or The Washington Post or the major networks that repeat what the big newspapers say, you wouldn’t know there was a U.S.-backed coup in February 2014 that overthrew the elected Ukrainian government of Viktor Yanukovych, even after he agreed to a European compromise in which he surrendered many powers and accepted early elections.

Instead of letting that agreement go forward, right-wing ultra-nationalists, including neo-Nazis operating inside the Maidan protests, overran government buildings in Kiev on Feb. 22, 2014, causing Yanukovych and other leaders to flee for their lives.

Behind the scenes, U.S. officials, such as neocon Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, had collaborated in the coup plans and celebrated the victory by Nuland’s handpicked leaders, including the post-coup Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, whom she referred to in an earlier intercepted phone call as “Yats is the guy.”

Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, who pushed for the Ukraine coup and helped pick the post-coup leaders.

Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, who pushed for the Ukraine coup and helped pick the post-coup leaders.

Nor would you know that the people of Crimea had voted overwhelmingly for President Yanukovych and – after the coup – voted overwhelmingly to get out of the failed Ukrainian state and reunify with Russia.

The major U.S. news media twists that reality into a Russian “invasion” of Crimea even though it was the strangest “invasion” ever because there were no photos of Russian troops landing on the beaches or parachuting from the skies. What the Post and the Times routinely ignored was that Russian troops were already stationed inside Crimea as part of a basing agreement for the Russian fleet at Sevastopol. They didn’t need to “invade.”

And Crimea’s referendum showing 96 percent approval for reunification with Russia – though hastily arranged – was not the “sham” that the U.S. mainstream media claimed. Indeed, the outcome has been reinforced by various polls conducted by Western agencies since then.

Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses a crowd on May 9, 2014, celebrating the 69th anniversary of victory over Nazi Germany and the 70th anniversary of the liberation of the Crimean port city of Sevastopol from the Nazis. (Russian government photo)

Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses a crowd on May 9, 2014, celebrating the 69th anniversary of victory over Nazi Germany and the 70th anniversary of the liberation of the Crimean port city of Sevastopol from the Nazis. (Russian government photo)

The MH-17 Case

The demonization of Putin reached new heights after the July 17, 2014 shoot-down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over eastern Ukraine killing all 298 people onboard. Although substantial evidence and logic point to elements of the Ukrainian military as responsible, Official Washington’s rush to judgment blamed ethnic Russian rebels for firing the missile and Putin for supposedly giving them a powerful Buk anti-aircraft missile system.

That twisted narrative often relied on restating the irrelevant point that the Buks are “Russian-made,” which was used to implicate Moscow but was meaningless since the Ukrainian military also possessed Buk missiles. The real question was who fired the missiles, not where they were made.

But the editors of the Post, the Times and the rest of the mainstream media think you are very stupid, so they keep emphasizing that the Buks are “Russian-made.” The more salient point is that U.S. intelligence with all its satellite and other capabilities was unable – both before and after the shoot-down – to find evidence that the Russians had given Buks to the rebels.

Since the Buk missiles are 16-feet-long and hauled around by slow-moving trucks, it is hard to believe that U.S. intelligence would not have spotted them given the intense surveillance then in effect over eastern Ukraine.

A more likely scenario of the MH-17 shoot-down was that Ukraine moved several of its Buk batteries to the frontlines, possibly fearing a Russian airstrike, and the operators were on edge after a Ukrainian warplane was shot down along the border on July 16, 2014, by an air-to-air missile presumably fired by a Russian plane.

But – after rushing out a white paper five days after the tragedy pointing the finger at Moscow – the U.S. government has refused to provide any evidence or intelligence that might help pinpoint who fired the missile that brought down MH-17.

Despite this remarkable failure by the U.S. government to cooperate with the investigation, the mainstream U.S. media has found nothing suspicious about this dog not barking and continues to cite the MH-17 case as another reason to despise Putin.

How upside-down this “Everything Is Putin’s Fault” can be was displayed in a New York Times “news analysis” by Steven Erlanger and Peter Baker on Thursday when all the “fundamental disagreements” between Obama and Putin were blamed on Putin.

“Dividing them are the Russian annexation of Crimea and its meddling in eastern Ukraine, Moscow’s efforts to demonize Washington and undermine confidence in NATO’s commitment to collective defense, and the Kremlin’s support of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria,” Erlanger and Baker wrote.

Helping ISIS

This tangle of false narratives is now tripping up the prospects of a U.S.-French-Russian-Iranian alliance to take on the Islamic State, Al Qaeda and other Sunni jihadist forces seeking to overthrow Syria’s secular government.

The neocon Washington Post, in particular, has been venomous about this potential collaboration which – while possibly the best chance to finally resolve the horrific Syrian conflict – would torpedo the neocons’ long-held vision of imposed “regime change” in Syria.

In editorials, the Post’s neocon editors also have displayed a stunning lack of sympathy for the 224 Russian tourists and crew killed in what appears to have been a terrorist bombing of a chartered plane over the Sinai in Egypt.

On Nov. 7, instead of expressing solidarity, the Post’s editors ridiculed Putin and Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi for not rushing to a judgment that it was an act of terrorism, instead insisting on first analyzing the evidence. The Post also mocked the two leaders for failing to vanquish the terrorists.

Or as the Post’s editors put it: “While Mr. Putin suspended Russian flights on [Nov. 6], his spokesman was still insisting there was no reason to conclude that there had been an act of terrorism. … While Western governments worried about protecting their citizens, the Sissi and Putin regimes were focused on defending themselves. …

“Both rulers have sold themselves as warriors courageously taking on the Islamic State and its affiliates; both are using that fight as a pretext to accomplish other ends, such as repressing peaceful domestic opponents and distracting attention from declining living standards. On the actual battlefield, both are failing.”

Given the outpouring of sympathy that the United States received after the 9/11 attacks and the condolences that flooded France over the past week, it is hard to imagine a more graceless reaction to a major terrorist attack against innocent Russians.

As for the Russian hesitancy to jump to conclusions earlier this month, that may have been partially wishful thinking but it surely is not an evil trait to await solid evidence before reaching a verdict. Even the Post’s editors admitted that U.S. officials noted that as of Nov. 7 there was “no conclusive evidence that the plane was bombed.”

But the Post couldn’t wait to link the terrorist attack to “Mr. Putin’s Syrian adventure” and hoped that it would inflict on Putin “a potentially grievous political wound.” The Post’s editors also piled on with the gratuitous claim that Russian officials “still deny the overwhelming evidence that a Russian anti-aircraft missile downed a Malaysian airliner over Ukraine last year.” (There it is again, the attempt to dupe Post readers with a reference to “a Russian anti-aircraft missile.”)

The Post seemed to take particular joy in the role of U.S. weapons killing Syrian and Iranian soldiers. On Thursday, the Post wrote, “Syrian and Iranian troops have lost scores of Russian-supplied tanks and armored vehicles to the rebels’ U.S.-made TOW missiles. Having failed to recapture significant territory, the Russian mission appears doomed to quagmire or even defeat in the absence of a diplomatic bailout.”

Upping the Ante

The neocons’ determination to demonize Putin has upped the ante, turning their Mideast obsession with “regime change” into a scheme for destabilizing Russia and forcing “regime change” in Moscow, setting the stage for a potential nuclear showdown that could end all life on the planet.

To listen to the rhetoric from most Republican candidates and Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton, it is not hard to envision how all the tough talk could take on a life of its own and lead to catastrophe. [See, for instance, Philip Giraldi’s review of the “war with Russia” rhetoric free-flowing on the campaign trail and around Official Washington.]

A nuclear test detonation carried out in Nevada on April 18, 1953.

A nuclear test detonation carried out in Nevada on April 18, 1953.

At this point, it may seem fruitless – even naïve – to suggest ways to pierce the various “group thinks” and the bubble that sustains them. But a counter-argument to the fake narratives is possible if some candidate seized on the principle of an informed electorate as vital to democracy.

An argument for empowering citizens with facts is one that transcends traditional partisan and ideological boundaries. Whether on the right, on the left or in the center, Americans don’t want to be treated like cattle being herded by propaganda or “strategic communication” or whatever the latest euphemism is for deception and manipulation.

So, a candidate could do the right thing and the smart thing by demanding the release of as much U.S. intelligence information to cut this Gordian knot of false narratives as possible. For instance, it is way past time to declassify the 28 pages from the congressional 9/11 report addressing alleged Saudi support for the hijackers. There also are surely more recent intelligence estimates on the funding of Al Qaeda’s affiliates and spin-offs, including ISIS.

If this information embarrasses some “allies” – such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey – so be it. If this history makes some past or present U.S. president look bad, so be it. American elections are diminished, if not made meaningless, when there is no informed electorate.

A presidential candidate also could press President Obama to disclose what U.S. intelligence knows about other key turning points in the establishment of false narratives, such as what did CIA analysts conclude about the Aug. 21, 2013 sarin attack and what do they know about the July 17, 2014 shoot-down of MH-17.

The pattern of the U.S. government exploiting emotional moments to gain an edge in an “info-war” against some “enemy” and then going silent as more evidence comes in has become a direct threat to American democracy and – in regards to nuclear-armed Russia – possibly the planet.

Legitimate secrets, such as sources and methods, can be protected without becoming an all-purpose cloak to cover up whatever facts don’t fit with the desired propaganda narrative that is then used to whip the public into some mindless war frenzy.

However, at this point in the presidential campaign, no candidate is making transparency an issue. Yet, after the deceptions of the Iraq War – and with the prospects of another war based on misleading or selective information in Syria and potentially a nuclear showdown with Russia – it seems to me that the American people would respond positively to someone treating them with the respect deserving of citizens in a democratic Republic.

 

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Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:07 | 6823236 TeamDepends
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Barry has visited all 57 Middle Eastern states and has instructed Victoria Nudleman, using the phony voice of "Josh Earnest".....can you believe people buy this shit?...!?..?..!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:20 | 6823256 Manthong
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Gotta’ love them McCain Barrel Bombs.

I know a certain Nulander that really needs one up her behind.

And it will cost a lot less than the $5 Billion she bragged about spending to destroy Ukraine at a Chevron sponsored event way back in 2013.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fYcHLouXY

 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:25 | 6823293 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Thank goodness the Soviet bombs being delivered courtesy of President for Life Putin are free. Not only that they do not kill innocent faithfull servants of Allah

Best wished to the ex KGB, never lie, they do not know how in the Soviet spy game, to Vlad and his countries second war on Islam, Afganistans and about a decade and hundred thousand deaths of proud, good, men of mother Russia, was the first. 

But if the bombs come from the west, remember to show the bill, and tell eveyone how expensive is. 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:29 | 6823303 Latina Lover
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Hey Stupid, google translations from Ukrainian to English don't work. Instead of trolling why don't you get a real job, like donating your organs to Israel?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:32 | 6823320 Insurrexion
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I like that. Creative.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:42 | 6823350 greenskeeper carl
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Unfortunately, he isn't a mere troll, at least I don't think he is. Way back when(don't remember, but a pretty long time ago, might have even been before you) that screen name used to post a lot, and it wasnt nonsensical shit like that. Not sure what he is trying to do there. You are right, it does look like some kind of bullshit translation, and I haven't noticed him posting in a while. Maybe he will explain himself.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:57 | 6823488 Ignatius
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Propagandists never explain themselves, they double-down or change the subject.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:22 | 6824621 Ima anal sphincter
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The votes are all that is needed to keep you from stepping in shit. Let-um ramble on. Everyone needs a good laugh now and then.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 11:56 | 6824391 Alok
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brilliant!!!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:38 | 6823340 theallseeinggod
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I sincerely believe that ukrainians have an inferiority complex. No wonder when ukraine isn't even a real country, but a russian-made quasi-state created for defense against the ottomans.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:59 | 6823492 Volkodav
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main problem is the pollacks in the west

and some baltics types and other

                    Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:18 | 6825488 BarkingCat
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The history of the region is a little more complex than that.
The name Ukraine might not have been used but you cannot deny the existence of Galicia..or did you learn your history in the Soviet Union days and have not had the curiosity
to correct what you have been fed.

I would suggest you contain your anger against neighboring Slave and focus your mind on who gains from such divisions.
It certainly is not any of the Slavic nations.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 03:25 | 6823654 BarkingCat
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That's pure bullshit.
Ukraine was part of the Polish Commonwealth until about 4 centuries ago when they sought Russian help in their rebellion against the Poles. Russians provided the help and then simply became the new masters.
Actually Russians got part of Ukraine and Poland still had a part of it.
As for the Ottoman Empire, Ukrainians sought their help also. The Ottomans got their asses kicked by Poland. Then got decimated again in the battle of Vienna and started their decline.
Ukrainians are their own nationality and just
because they dominated byi their more powerful
neighbors throughout history does not mean they don't diserve independence. Just like the Armenians deserve their and so do the Kurds.

were

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 08:01 | 6823893 theallseeinggod
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They are so not like the Kurds. When I said Ottoman, I also meant the Crimean Khanate, their vassal, which was a slave state earning revenue mainly by selling the people of modern day Ukraine to the Islamic world. Even the name Ukraine means borderland. Also the territory called by Russia the New Russia was conquered by Russia, not Ukraine, to rid the people there of the slavery problem.

The problem with Ukrainians is that they don't have a national identity, which is why they try so hard to get one and what they get is a very simplistic version of an identity.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:03 | 6825443 BarkingCat
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And where did you learn that Ukraine means border lands???
Do you speak Ukrainian?? Or any Slavic language?

The translation would be much more accurate as "In the Nation".
It breaks down the same way in many Slavic
languages including Ukrainian and Polish.

"U" basically means "in" and "kraina" means
"country". That was in Ukrainian language.
In Polish the meaning of " U" is the same but "country" is "kraj" ("j" is pronounced like "y").

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:49 | 6823364 Baby Bladeface
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Wow. The monkey taught to write!!!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 10:53 | 6824230 J Jason Djfmam
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Mankind in general.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:41 | 6823543 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Any comments on *this* article and its contents?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:26 | 6823294 Latina Lover
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As you know, the USSA bombs are much more humanitarian than the so called barrel bombs.  Unlike the crude  bombs used by Assad, a  2,000-lb JDAM magically blows up only the bad guys, sparing ISIS and other innocents.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 03:48 | 6823682 gladius17
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We have a kinder, gentler machine gun hand.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 06:33 | 6823811 mvsjcl
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Nice Neil reference.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:26 | 6823298 Manthong
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NBFD..  Monsanto, Cargill, ADM, Chevron et. al. will churn the burnt ground of Ukraine and make a buck.

They are pretty used to it over there.

..just gotta' get rid of all the unexploded rounds and land mines.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:38 | 6823342 TeamDepends
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Shovel ready jobs!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:39 | 6823345 espirit
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Man spreads are nothing new, just ask Reggie Love.

Can't hold Nulander to anything she-it said that far back, shees a wo-man.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:18 | 6823274 Ethelred the Unready
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Seems like the only GOPs who are not itching to start WWIII is Trump (and much further down ther poll listings:  Paul).

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:55 | 6823383 Demdere
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https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/22/if-windows-crashes-wwiii/

I don't wish to alarm anyone unduly, but the probability of war is proportional to the probability of the oldest automated weapons system in the fleet being a bit stressed by a new Russian radar and taking down the ships weapons systems. Squared on a good day, but fog of war, no bets.

Read that only if you don't care about sleeping tonight.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:25 | 6823754 Parrotile
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Thanks a bunch sunbeam! This is up there with pacemakers running Win95 ('cause upgrading the OS would require full FDA resubmission that is TOO COSTLY!)

Next thing you will be telling us is that they use PC-Tools to provide running repairs :-) :-)

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 11:35 | 6824323 drendebe10
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Fukem all

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:17 | 6824605 Noplebian
Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:08 | 6823242 PoasterToaster
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How to dislodge the Neo Tards?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:47 | 6823777 goldhedge
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Prunes.

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 09:32 | 6824016 Squid Viscous
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Zyklon B

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 09:20 | 6823998 conscious being
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Economic collapse will necesitate the end of the empire and political apathy.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:14 | 6823258 Insurrexion
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This is a long rant of driveling bullshit.

The American people do not care.

They are watching fucking college football while Rome burns.

There is only one regime change that matters. It is in Washington D.C. and it involves the death of millions.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:35 | 6823321 Latina Lover
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The article is a fair summary of what's wrong with USSA foreign policy vis a vis Russia. 

But I agree with your conclusion that the American people do not care. More Americans can identify kardashians butt-cheeks than find Syria on a map.  This is ultimately why they are slaves to  the wall street banksters, because they live unconsciously. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:04 | 6823498 lincolnsteffens
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No they live subconsciously on auto pilot.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 09:11 | 6823988 Tao 4 the Show
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or maybe on "desire pilot". This is why so many of the eastern religions point out that what people call freedom is an illusion. They are really just slaves to desires that are biologically driven or, more common these days, desires that are implanted by the media. This is why they teach that time spent freeing oneself from the blind motivations of the ego is worthwhile, and one of the reasons Christianity teaches people to look beyond themselves. Modern slavery is mostly self inflicted.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:48 | 6823553 Chairman
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I sometimes have to do an internet search for terms such as "Kardashian" as I thought it was something from Star Trek.  ZH and Lew Rockwell are my only connections back to the USA.  By the way I really like your icon image with the nice boobs. 

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:48 | 6823554 Chairman
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I sometimes have to do an internet search for terms such as "Kardashian" as I thought it was something from Star Trek.  ZH and Lew Rockwell are my only connections back to the USA.  By the way I really like your icon image with the nice boobs. 

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:05 | 6823408 Freddie
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Dumb white American males love their Trayvon thugs and Jameis FSU rapist quarterback and NFL quarterback now.

They love cheering on this feral scum like little girls.  Cheering on the genocide of the white race.

Thank God for the Russians.  They are more serious and intelligent people. They also have balls and make some amazing planes (see short video).  Americans make F-35 fraud hangar queens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja_kvsngEFI

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:16 | 6823263 WTFUD
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A lot of resources gone into discrediting Putin and all to no avail, in fact, detrimental as they have strengthened Russia's credibility on the world stage.

It's all downhill from here on in for the Neocon's , just a matter of how many more of us will be sacrificed before the trials and hangings commence.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 08:08 | 6823902 HowdyDoody
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Putin, bring out the 40 names! Raise international arrest warrants and send them to Black Dolphin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8cbnrBBI3g

 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:18 | 6823268 CHoward
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America, we have a problem.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:24 | 6823290 yogibear
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Victoria Nuland is a war mongering bitch.

She'll get the US into WWIII.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:29 | 6823309 Insurrexion
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Correction:

Victoria Nuland is a syphlitic, drippping cock infecting millions of ignorant men and women.

And I'm being nice.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:52 | 6823371 Freddie
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She comes from the same line of Khazar zio scum that took over Russia in 1917 and then murdered 25 millions Russian Christians.   I hope the Russians NEVER forget that and realize what good things Putin has done for Russia.   One of the first was throwing out Soros and his band of Red Shield zoligarch evil vermin.

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 04:18 | 6823706 Raymond_K._Hessel
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So is Samantha Power whose Gollum-like transformation into a duplicitous Neocon should be studied by graduate students of government and fp.

http://www.alternet.org/world/samantha-power-obamas-atrocity-enabler

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:01 | 6824557 gezley
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It's sad to see so many Irish in hock to Washington.

We are a craven lot now, unable to pursue our own policy, willingly prostrating ourselves on the altar of Anglo-American interests. My brother told me yesterday that in all of Dublin there remains only one fully Irish-owned department store now. So many British- and American-owned businesses here now we might as well lower the Tricolor and hoist the Union Jack over Dublin Castle once more. That would be the honest thing to do.

The Irish are still a race who will do anything to satisfy their masters in London and the States. it makes me sick.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:26 | 6823295 WTFUD
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How many Congress critters could point to Syria on a map? Around 25% being generous i expect, although to be fair everything is classified these days as the minutes of most meetings are only allowed to be viewed by a small trusted inner-circle of both party machines.

MIC, Goldman and Significant Others decide who can be trusted to view their written handy work and Big Baz delivers a general need to know summary from his teleprompter.

DEMOCRAZZZEEEEEEEE

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:31 | 6823314 Yen Cross
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 LET'S discuss the merits of this article in a few hours.

 Some dipshit congressional aide decided to drop a middle of the night " STATUATORY" tape bomb.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:31 | 6823315 Ms No
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Speaking of false memes and the destruction they cause.  This 2 week DOD drill that we found out the hard way that the Phoenix area is having (helicopters buzzing houses and down town all night last night and today) has the natives restless, people are letting off fireworks and what sounds like gun fire up north.  They also released that terrorist may have entered through the border, interesting timing, maybe they are just trying to ruffle our feathers.  Might have a situation developing, from what I am hearing people are annoyed at their airspace being harassed.  I got buzzed like an SOB yesterday... anybody else seen anything?  I can hear one now.

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/fbi-tracking-potential-terrorists-in-phoenix-area

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/20/phoenix-flagged-as-potential-hotbed-for-terror-recruiting.html

http://ktar.com/story/750753/military-training-planned-this-week-and-next-in-phoenix-area/

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/black-helicopters-spotted-around-downtown-phoenix-over-federal-building

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:49 | 6823365 WTFUD
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Ms No, your pad is surrounded. Drop the mouse and come out with your hands over your head!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:58 | 6823391 Ms No
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I thought about mooning the one I saw today but they had a door open and I was afraid I may get shot in the ass with rock salt or something...lol

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:41 | 6823467 Volkodav
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that was funnie

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 02:37 | 6823597 Implied Violins
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They've been flying around Sacramento tonight too and I heard a lot of gunshots on the freeway (I live close to I-5).

The crash is near, as are the false flags. Prepare yourselves.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 07:57 | 6823349 GooseShtepping Moron
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Watching a plethora of discordant and deceptive narratives eventually collapse back into reality always reminds me of magnetic reconnection, which I think is a pretty good physical metaphor for the process.

The sun is a whirling maelstrom of high energy plasma moving in response to electric and magnetic fields. As anyone who remembers the “right hand rule” from physics class will tell you, the force experienced by a test charge moving through a magnetic field in perpendicular to both the direction of motion and the field lines. This results in spiraling, twisting, tortuous plasma arcs. But since plasma itself is a soup of charged particles, and since a moving electric charge generates a magnetic field (and vise versa), the plasma’s movements become intractably complex and the magnetic field lines get contorted like a ball of twine.

This is a very unstable situation. The immense energy locked up in the twisted fields is released when the magnetic field lines “reconnect” to a less distant pole. It is a poorly understood process in the details, but its bulk effects are tantamount to the sudden snapping of a twisted up rubber band. All that energy is released in the form of coronal mass ejections and solar flares, and the magnetic field assumes a much simpler configuration.

So it will be when Washington’s lies become to chaotic too maintain and the truth, in the form of a resurgent Russia and a much weakened United States, snaps into being.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 09:36 | 6824028 Tao 4 the Show
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Nice description!

One reason plasma physics is so complex is its feedback nature: the magnetic fields affect the movements of the charged particles, but moving charged particles also create magnetic fields. This makes closed solutions difficult in most cases. It is an ultra sensitive system, chaotic in the extreme.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:47 | 6823357 BarnacleBill
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What's a cause for grief is that so many ordinary men and women are captivated by the MSM organs. I have given up watching CNN and the BBC altogether. There's just too much obvious bias, especially in interviews. Wolf Blitzer and Stephen Sacker are specialists in asking the "When did you stop beating your wife?" type of questions.

Nor do I bother reading any of the MSM online newspapers. The closest I get is Drudge, just to read the headlines.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 09:38 | 6824034 conscious being
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Wolf Blitzer - Howitzer Explosion, interviewing that most excellent congresswoman from Hawaii,Tulsi Gabbard, said Assad killed 300,000 Syrians!! When in reality, Friends of Wolf (FoW) kicked off the war in Syria, just like they got the bloodshed going in Ukraine. Both projects used the indescriminate sniper souless-zombies to inflame both sides.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:39 | 6824679 Bemused Observer
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Wolf Blitzer will always be remembered by me for his running commentary on one of our 'black riots'...he was rambling on, filling time, and starts going on about how the rioters are "so poor, and so black"...a spot-on observation from one of our best-known 'newsmen'.

Shut up Wolf. You don't really add anything to the discussion.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:54 | 6823375 Freddie
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Saw this post on Free Republic by someone named Vic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3363504/posts

To: lbryce

Military officer and Booz Allen Hamilton employee in Psychological Warfare Scott Bennett turned whistleblower when he discovered the west (CIA) is funding terrorism (Al Queda/ISIS) through Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS) and HSBC. Imprisoned for 36 months for wearing his uniform on base (w/out being asked to) and filling out his housing form carelessly. While there he met Brad Berkenfeld (UBS whistleblower of the same reason - funding of terrorists thru 20,000+ UBS accounts).

The book, Shell Game . pdf : http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/shell_game.pdf

He contacted almost every member of congress, many generals in the military as well as most of the people at every nows organization from MSNBC, CNN to Fox and other news organizations including a 2 hour meeting with Michael Isikoff. Never heard back from anyone, except a form letter from Rand Paul. The US is funding Al Queda and ISIS, and no one cares?!?

Note that NSA employee Edward Snowden (patriot) worked for Booz Allen.

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Sun, 11/22/2015 - 07:02 | 6823835 Everybodys All ...
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Que up Obama acting surprised and finding out about it by watching the news like you and I.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:04 | 6823406 Itsthetiming
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what's the point of this post?

That we should turn on the television and be educated for months by the government on why they want to take a particular course of action?

Seems easier to make shit up and make it a 5 min clip.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:12 | 6823420 Itsthetiming
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Apparently bloggers and every citizen is capable of making more informed decisions than entire government agencies dedicated to nothing else but obtaining information.

Did it ever occur to anyone that to provide the info on why what is happening is happening may cause a genuine panic or state of fear?

Everyone believes they are able to absorb all the Information, but I remember reading the security summary o.pn Syria which was over 200 pages long...and that's one country.

After reading it I understood things a little better.

But I would not pretend to know what's best in Syria based on just internet resources.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 09:23 | 6823454 opport.knocks
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The problem with your "rationalization" (I am being polite) is that is not what happens at all. The "entire government agencies dedicated to nothing else but obtaining information" are not doing thst at all.

Those organizations are fabricating information to justify a purely political decision that has already been made. Information which does not conform to the agenda is consigned to the trash.

As for " info on why what is happening is happening may cause a genuine panic or state of fear?" - that is precisely why the Alphabet agencies do what they do. The War on Terror became the War with Terror, the War on Drugs became the War with Drugs.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 02:11 | 6823557 V for ...
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'itsthetiming',

Has it ever occurred to you that Syria knows what is best for Syrians, and they are entitled to self-determination which was the first principle declared after WWI, the 'war to end all wars', the world was told by the politicians?

Has it ever occurred to you that the USA was founded on the principle of non-intervention in the sovereign affairs of other states?

Perhaps your problem is that you give the bureauRats too much credit, while they fuck up the entire world.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:26 | 6823756 trader1
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what is "syria"?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:34 | 6823762 bunnyswanson
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Are you actually suggesting the country of Syria does not exist Agent of Deception?  Or are you having a senior moment?

https://donate.doctorswithoutborders.org

"In the Syrian conflict’s fifth year, millions of refugees are caught in alarmingly deteriorating conditions, facing an even bleaker future. With no solution to the conflict in sight, most of the 4 million Syrian refugees in Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt see no prospect of returning home in the near future, and have little opportunity to restart their lives in exile.

Inside Syria, the situation is also deteriorating rapidly. Millions of children are suffering from trauma and ill health. A quarter of Syria’s schools have been damaged, destroyed or taken over for shelter. More than half of Syria’s hospitals are destroyed."

http://donate.unhcr.org/international/syria

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:40 | 6823770 scaleindependent
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Thank you.

Every country has a right to Self determination and outsiders should focus on non intervention.  The founding father's had that one right.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:16 | 6823427 Berspankme
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Better the man spread that fairy ass Obama chimp

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:22 | 6823435 samsara
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tut tut.  Barrel Bombs indeed. Home made drum stuffed with metal and stuff and dropped by helicopter..  Is that what ya got?

How about this in comparison?

"Israel launched a 34-day war in July 2006. ... In the last 72 hours of fighting, ... Israel dropped approx.  four million cluster bombs over south Lebanon."

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:53 | 6823484 Neochrome
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"Leg spread" is on a kindergarten level, it speaks volumes about WH, much more than about Putin. Insistence on removing Assad even at the price of losing decades in time (if ever), billions (if not trillions) of dollars and thousands of lives trying to pacify the region in chaos is worse than petty, it's pretty much suicidal. Bluster about war with Russia is taken directly from the North Korean diplomacy book - congratulations, no sane person will take you seriously anymore.

As for American electorate we are witnessing somewhat unique event in the history, actual devolution of intelligence. don't use it - lose it.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:09 | 6823502 V for ...
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So many words. So much diversion. Bottom line: the zionist led Project for a New American Century and the Wolfowitz Doctrine  wrecking the Middle East for the Yinon Plan continued...until Russia decided to uphold international law, and launched Operation Salvation, so the Israel of Biblical times (Syria) could survive, and Christians are saved from extinction in the Middle East where all other governments say nothing about that.

More than 2000 years, and Christians, the foundation of the Western world as our laws know it, are being made extinct in the Middle East.

Zionists and their fans continue to jaw about war, and make excuses for their debt slavery, and cowardice.

Killing JFK was a coup d'etat, and you should at least have the courage of a paper tiger to admit it rather than whine on.

I'm fed up with rhetoric, sophistry and faux intelligentsia who repeat mistakes rather than challenge the status quo in a practical way.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 02:22 | 6823586 Wild E Coyote
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Can you suggest a way to challenge the status quo in a practical way. We are all waiting.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 03:08 | 6823634 Ides of November
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TLAs - Targeted Life Adjustments.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 04:29 | 6823712 bunnyswanson
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20151121/ml--iran-israel-802f84ed57.html

Iran Guard simulates capture of Al Aqsa Mosque

Nov 21, 4:47 AM (ET)

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI

"Thousands of paramilitary forces stormed and "liberated" a replica of the mosque in the exercise. They say that 120 brigades from the Basij, the paramilitary unit of the Guard, participated in Friday's exercise outside the holy city of Qom in central Iran....Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, who heads the Guard's aerospace division, said his force deployed Shahed-121, or Witness-129, drones during the war games. The drone, unveiled in 2013, has a range of 1,700 kilometers (1,050 miles), a 24-hour nonstop flight capability and can carry eight bombs or missiles."

Land, air and sea evidently, at least psychologically speaking.


Sun, 11/22/2015 - 06:46 | 6823822 V for ...
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Upold the Constituion. Stop these endless wars for Israhell. That's a start. Then term limits. Next question...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 12:46 | 6824515 gezley
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The only thing that has ever defeated them is the Sacrifice of Calvary. In practical terms that means we should endeavour to have the Usus Antiquior made the default in the Latin Church once more.

 

It is absolutely no coincidence that the infiltrated Catholic Church of the 1960s was surrendering its rightful and exclusive claim to the title "People of Israel" just as "Israeli" tanks were rolling into Jerusalem to set about restoring the old Temple sacrifice. There cannot be two Israels and two sacrifices; when Christ offered himself up as the definitive sacrifice he did away with the old and worthless Temple sacrifice.

 

We need to ensure that the Catholic Church is understood once more as the true Israel, and that there is no other impostor claiming that title. In practical terms that means the full restoration of the Mass of the Ages, for it is the only thing that has ever defeated them. To participate in that Mass is to participate fully in the definitive triumph of Christ over the so-called Jews.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:09 | 6823506 All Out Of Bubblegum
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What do Zionism and American Indepence Day have in common?

 

July.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:21 | 6823518 V for ...
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Funny. But that would get you prosecuted in the EUSSR, zionist's favourite project; easy to blow up and extort.

Teasing everyone is allowed, except the jews who are not jews. They scream 'hate speech'!!!!

A Charlie Hebdo writer was fired when he joked about the French President or his son marrying a wealthy jewess. Yet Charlie Hebdo which prints ugly cartoons about Christians and muslims claims it is satirical, rather than a tool of hateful zionism.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 02:58 | 6823625 All Out Of Bubblegum
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"Are we going to let our world be destroyed so as not to offend a tiny number of people who accuse us of anti-Semitism to cover up the crimes they are committing against us?"

 

-Major General, Count Arthur Cherep-Spiridovich, 1910s

 

This man was assassinated in NYC in 1926 for speaking against the Bolsheviks. It's well worth the read:

 

https://archive.org/stream/TheSecretWorldGovernmentOrHiddenHand/13065735...

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 04:16 | 6823705 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Thanks for that link - I have not heard of the man.

And I never heard of Douglas Reed until a few years ago.

'Judeophobe' was the proper term. It should be used rather than 'antisemite' which is a "sticky" propaganda term meant to insulate Israel and its lobby from even fair criticism.

The shamelessness of Israel's apologists is quite a thing to behold

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israel-hiding-killers-...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:22 | 6823520 lasvegaspersona
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The unwillingness of politicians to dirctly address any of these alternate explanations (along with General Wesley Clark's revalation that an invasion of 6 or 7 countries in the region was planned since 2001) kinds kills my sense of trust in my American government.

It has become rotten and already stinks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz5fZziMWEE

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:27 | 6823524 V for ...
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Isn't it interesting that the main scream media and self styled alternatives like ZH rarely if ever print and follow up on the facts exposed by well placed, experienced military personnel or other credible Americans with credentials  who explain quite plainly how the USA has been hijacked by foreign interests who bribe or blackmail CONgress.

Lenin — 'The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.'

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:26 | 6823529 jtg
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If there is one person we can blame for the US secret or deep state that is undermining democracy it is Allen Dulles.

Read The Brothers and The Devil's Chessboard, both on the Dulles brothers.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:33 | 6823532 V for ...
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Focus on the individuals responsible for this mess  fails to catch the fashion for shooting the breeze ad nauseum, apparently.

A few facts tell us everything we need to know, but those facts are routinely ignored. JFK said he would smash the CIA to smithereens after the Cuba fiasco, and then Dulles was appointed to part lead the  investigation into JFK's  assassination.

A coup d'etat. But people today would rather fight left, right, left,, right...off to war again and again.

All wars are banker wars. State terrorism is the biggest threat to most people. JFK stopped Operation Northwoods in his time, but it lived on after he died, as did Operation Gladio in Europe.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:39 | 6823536 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Glad to see a Parry piece here - consortium news is a great site. Their coverage of the New York Times' increasingly obvious neocon propaganda has been fantastic.

Americans are the most lied to people on earth - and what is amazing is how many people learned nothing about the lies and yellow journalism employed to lie the us into Iraq even as OBL, purported 9/11 mastermind, remained on the run.

And yet, for some, to doubt the tales told by the corporate msm is a grave sin. For them, it is very important that no one doubt the US msm, which despite some red/blue team differences essentially regurgitate the propaganda issued by the US government. A government that seems to be controlled by Wall Street, the MIC and a lobby for a tiny foreign state bend on getting the US to remake the middle east for its future expansion and military and economic hegemony.

http://america-hijacked.com

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:45 | 6823546 bid the soldier...
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If I may point out a serious error of reasoning in your otherwise well written piece.

Another major factor in America’s crisis of false narratives relates to the demonizing of Russia and Putin, a process that dates back in earnest to 2013 when Putin helped Obama sidetrack the neocon dream of bombing Syria and then Putin compounded his offense by assisting Obama in getting Iran to constrain its nuclear program, which derailed another neocon dream to bomb-bomb-bomb Iran.

Although the US sniping at Russia goes back well into the first decade of the 21st century with the explosions at four or five weapons depots in Russia (not unlike Tianjin and the five chemical warehouses in China that followed) and the entrapment of Viktor Bout in Thailand by the CIA, and his subsequent extradition, trial, and imprisonment in the US.

Little stuff like that.

Your theory that there was was a collaboration between Putin and Obama misses the mark entirely.

2013 began with a suspected CIA agent being refused re-admittance to Russia at the border.  Two more agents were also expelled, the latter being the infamous Ryan Fogle and his blonde wig.  Finally, the CIA's Station Chief was publicly exposed.  All by the middle of 2013.

And then, deus ex machina, the person of one Edward Snowden appeared in the transit zone of Sheremetyevo airport. 

 The neocons' likes and dislikes fled like vampires at dawn, for Edward Snowden cleaned out the cookie jar before he left.

He arrived in Moscow in June, and after Putin refused Obama's order to return him, we were all greeted by the false flag sarin gas attack outside of Damascus in August.

My own feeling is that when Obama threatened a a cruise missile attack from the NATO flotilla which lay off Syria, Putin, who was in possession of the Yakhont cruise missiles, replied that Obama should expect tit for tat.

Then the Yakhont, a missile described as an air craft carrier killer, and which the US navy was so fearful of that Israel had been tasked for the first half of 2013, with five or six air raids into Syria to hit the warehouses where worthless intelligence said they were stored. 

Then came the Greenpeace fiasco, the shoving of gay behavior down the throats of peasants who still harvested rye with a sickle, the threatened boycott of the Sochi games. 

2013 ended with the assembly of 200, 000 people (out of a population of 45,000,000) in the Maidan, the CIA's most recent vicious, violent overthrow of an elected government. 

 

I think we are past the point of no return. As terrible as what we had in the last score of years of the 20th century, it is no longer available to us.

The economy, the weltanschauung, the natural resources, the climate, the population explosion are leading us down the path to Orwell's vision of the future.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 02:09 | 6823571 V for ...
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The choice is straighforward: law or no law. This must be applied to all nations and governments,  not just some. Putin and Russia demand this, and it awakens every free spirit who is fed up with the State we are in.

Russia for the Russians; every country for their own; self determination was the first principle established after WWI, the 'war to end all wars', so the world was told  - except when Christians are on the verge of extinction in the Middle East and Russia enacts its 'Operation Salvation'.

It is silly to imagine that the Russian position is solely materialist, given the history and culture of its country, surviving the Bolshevik AshkeNAZI slaughter, imposed atheism, and then regaining its Orthodox Christian tradition which it refuses to let die under zionist plots in the Middle East.

Modern Syria is the ancient land of Israel in the Bible. The terrorist attacks on Palmyra and destroying ancient monuments throughout the Middle East is an attempt to wipe all other remnants of ancient civilisation off the map - except the lying Talmudist version of Judah which kept slaves as it does now. Judah, now called Israel in modern times, under batshit crazy militarist, supremacist zionist rule beholden to the Rothschild City of London which considers it a fiefdom.

Herzl took the begging bowl of rich eastern european convert 'jews' all around, asking for help. The muslims promised, but let him down. The Germans promised, but refused to let his nascent state be anything other than a satellite. The Rothschilds in France turned him down. The Rothschilds in London were only persuaded after they found rich resources in Palestine, and realised Herzl and his rich friends could be useful.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 09:49 | 6824060 chubbar
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I'm also of the opinion that ancient artifacts are behind at least some of these invasions. I don't know where it all fits in but it has become quite apparent that the version of our collective past we are fed in school is nowhere near accurate and probably a deliberate lie.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 03:31 | 6823590 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Greened you but I think that Obama is a puppet with more than one string and obama did seem to resist the Israel Lobby as to attacking Iran to get it to stop doing what it was already not doing. This may have had more to do with fears of the economic consequences more than anything, but Zbig and his crew have long wanted to focus on Russia.

The sarin gas nonsense was known to have been a clumsy false flag and pushback came from us intel as well as rank and file military. But the effort to find a pretext has continued.

The failure of the American media to question anything the government claims is shocking - most Americans uncritically accept whatever they read, but that is less and less true as people who grew up with the internet tend to rely on numerous sources for news, which at least invites skepticism.

Western attacks on and interference in Russia have been relentless. The Pussy Riot episode was a ridiculous farce - a non-story covered by the msm in exactly the way that media never covers the Occupation of Palestine nor the attacks on civilians by Kiev. Trespassing in and vandalizing an Orthodox Christian cathedral understandably led to arrests, byt that became Orwellized into tyrannical persecution of feminist patriots rather than a US government psyop.

Putin isnt vilified for any other reason than frustrating US/western efforts to take over Russia's resources and banks and flood it with immigrants. CIA FRONT ngos and the more treacherous oligarchs (mostly not even ethnic Russians) were kicked out and the effort to replace the Russian navy in Crimea with US/NATO boats precluded.

http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Pseudoscience/harvard_mafia.shtml

Presumably, Russians have heard of "The Grand Chessboard" and know all about Nuland, Kagan, Feltman, Pyatt, and the rest of the Zionist warmongers embedded in State, the NED, and the other ngos which tried over and over to destabilize the country.

The lies of the Anglo-Zionist Empire are recognized as such by more and more people, and that means more propaganda, more false flags, and more internet trolls devoted to accusing, in Orwellian fashion, those who reject those lies as not being patriots.

Unfortunately, the American, British, Israeli, Saudi governments (and others) are devoted to more war and terror and are likely to commit further atrocities while they still enjoy a critical mass of people who are wholly uncritical - even with Iraq's lies still large in the rear view mirror.

http://thesaker.is/tag/anglozionist-empires-covert-war-against-russia/

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39801.htm

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 04:05 | 6823698 bid the soldier...
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I never should have attempted to survey all of 2013.  My main point was that the asylum Putin gave to Snowden (and why wouldn't he?) is what set the alarms off in Washington.

Deceit oozes out of every pore of every under secretary and deputy minister working with and for the neocon government in Washington.

The neocons should beware that the Pentagon isn't using them to achieve a  military government here.  And that there awaits all the neocon scum the American version of the Night of the Long Knives.  

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:10 | 6823739 Raymond_K._Hessel
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I hear ya.

Look, The us government is riddled with not only Zionist traitors but people primarily concerned with the welfare of the MIC and wall street.

After a trial for treason, and some enhanced interrogation about 9/11, I'd put Cheney up against the wall first, swiftly followed by McCain, Graham, Wolfowitz, Perle, Wurmser, Feith, the Kagans, and expel every dual citizen from any government position.

I'd also have Congress pass a new law banning dual citizenship (again) and dare the supreme court to overturn it (again).

I think a civil war amongst tptb is more likely than a popular uprising. I have no interest in violence but the lack of a genuine and free msm may force the issue. A free and independent press tends to keep things civil while a Potemkin free press invites tyranny.

I will be in a small cabin deep in the woods of northern New England if and when the zombies come.

But id much prefer a bloodless coup to restore the basic framework of the Constitution. Including the 9th and 10th amendments and those bits about declarations of war and the issuance of money.

One way or another, the 'deep state' needs its leash yanked. Apart from the chickenhawk megalomania and treason, many of those characters are fundamentally stupid people. Harvard and Yale graduate some of the most
obtuse and arrogant human beings on earth - and both are around 20% Jewish, and a large chunk of them are taking the seats of better qualified Asians and Euro-Americans... 'Diversity' apparently doesnt apply to the Jewish networks that so dominate Hollywood, Wall Street, and the Zionist (Jewish) deep state.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/category/jewish-ethnic-networking/

'It’s true that Canadian Jews are pallid, and Palestinians are somewhat tanned. But Israel isn’t carrying out the genocide of the Palestinians because Jews are of lighter tint, rather because Palestinians aren’t Jewish, and happened to be located where Israel was created. If the Palestinians were blond, they could hardly expect better treatment.

Engler himself gives the evidence for this: “Approximately 93 percent of land was in the public domain, including approximately 12.5 percent owned by the NGO Jewish National Fund (JNF), whose statutes prohibit sale or lease of land to non-Jews.” (my emphasis)

From this explicit description of anti-gentile racial discrimination, he concludes “In Israel, as in Canada, Jewish/white privilege is a much greater social problem than anti-Semitism. It’s time to check that privilege.”

‘Jewish/white privilege’ is even less of a problem than anti-Semitism. Whereas the latter has almost disappeared, the former has never existed. Since white supremacy has been retreating since the battle of Gettysburg, and Jewish supremacy is as powerful as ever, the latter cannot be a subset of the former. The ADL has considerably more influence than the KKK.'
http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/09/does-jewishwhite-privilege-exist/

http://dissidentvoice.org/2015/08/white-privilege-as-jewish-privilege-sh...

Nb: that TNR claims there's no such thing as 'Jewish Privilege' is proof beyond doubt that there is

https://newrepublic.com/article/121498/jewish-privilege-doesnt-exist-jew...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 06:58 | 6823832 V for ...
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Always come North when the SHTF. That is wise. Until then, have no fear. Write on...

We have nothng to fear, we Northern people. We wish only that others should live well and don't bother us.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 11:38 | 6824332 Bemused Observer
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Northern people are great, and I'd love to visit Russia someday, but why didn't our ancestors choose to settle a bit further south?

That always bothered me...here you had the Vikings hacking a living out of the frozen dirt and frigid seas, on a planet with far fewer people, and places with much more friendly climates. And they had boats...boats! They could have left, not just to raid and return home to the ice, but to actually go live somewhere else! Somewhere nice, somewhere warmer, they could have been sipping pina coladas on a beach somewhere instead of defrosting their fingers and toes and de-icing the latrine every morning.

Why? They had been to Paris, they knew that the world was warmer down south. Why did they keep returning to the tundra? Why aren't countries like Sweden and Norway located along the Mediterranean coast today? They could have done it. It's too late now, all those spots have been taken, but back then it could have been done.

Same thing with desert people...why do they stay in such unfriendly climates when there are alternatives?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:39 | 6825361 bid the soldier...
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Scene:  A cabin in the North Woods.  

A young man is chopping wood while his Newfoundland water dog lies in the grass with one eye in the sky looking for drones.

Credits

HESSEL'S RUN

I hope you make it, Hessel, though I don't think I'll be around to see it.

 

When the American Democracy finally and irrevocably collapses, there is little doubt in my mind that neither Wall Street and its banksters, the MIC, especially the part of the military in cahoots with the defense industry, corporate America, the entire Jewish complex, from the IDF to the ADL to the toady goyish state and federal representatives, will withstand the power base of the Pentagon when it asserts its right of military law, military government and military justice.

"Government of the people, by the people and for the people will have officially perished from the earth." 

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 02:40 | 6823602 fencejumper
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Great job with this piece, Robert Parry - thank you!

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 00:32 | 6823609 honestann
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They don't call them "neo-con-jobs" for nothing... the most egregious pack of liars & murders the world has ever seen.  Well, at least as far as I know (not a history expert).

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:44 | 6823663 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Excellent:

America’s Great Lie. Europe’s Great Shame. Russia’s Great Case.
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/americas-great-lie-europes-great-...

"NATO is nothing but America’s anti-Russia military club, against Russia and against any nation (such as Iraq, or Libya, or Syria) that supports Russia.

We killed Gaddafi in Libya because he supported Russia in international relations. We produced the failed state and jihadist mayhem that now exists there; we destroyed Libya and now the refugees from there are flooding into Europe, along with the refugees from our attacks to bring down Assad in Syria.

We overthrew (via a bloody coup and no ‘democratic revolution’ such as the West lies to assert) Yanukovych in Ukraine allegedly because he turned down the EU’s offer to Ukraine after learning that the price-tag for Ukrainians would be $160 billion if Ukraine were to comply with the EU’s demands. But the U.S. was already organizing the coup against him starting a year before the coup, and nine months before Yanukovych turned down the EU’s offer.

We are trying to overthrow Assad in Syria because he supports Russia in international relations.

This isn’t bullying?

This is ‘democracy’?" ...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 04:10 | 6823699 Raymond_K._Hessel
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'...As Morris notes in his presentation, elimination of the Assad regime in Syria was not an idea conceived by either the neocons or the broader Israel lobby; rather it can be traced back to the Israeli Likudniks, being articulated by Oded Yinon in his 1982 piece, “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties.” In this article, Yinon called for Israel to use military means to bring about the dissolution of Israel’s neighboring states and their fragmentation into a mosaic of ethnic and sectarian groupings. Yinon believed that this would not be a difficult undertaking because nearly all the Arab states were afflicted with internal ethnic and religious divisions. In essence, the end result would be a Middle East of powerless mini-statelets that could in no way confront Israeli power. Lebanon, then facing divisive chaos, was Yinon’s model for the entire Middle East. Yinon wrote: “Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target.” (Quoted in “The Transparent Cabal,” p. 51)

What stands out in the stark contrast to the debate taking place today is that Yinon’s rationale for eliminating the dictatorial regimes in Syria and elsewhere in the Middle East had absolutely nothing to do with their oppressive practices and lack of democracy, but rather was based solely on Israel’s geostrategic interests-the aim being to permanently weaken Israel’s enemies. The neoconservatives took up the gist of the Yinon’s position in their 1996 Clean Break policy paper, whose authors included neocons Richard Perle, David Wurmser, Douglas Feith, which was presented to then incoming Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. It urged him to use military force against a number of Israel’s enemies, which beginning with Iraq would include “weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria.” Once again the fundamental concern was Israeli security, not liberty and democracy for the people of those countries. (“The Transparent Cabal,” p. 90)

Numerous neocons before and after 9/11 expressed the need to confront Syria in order to protect the security of both the United States and Israel, whose interests they claimed coincided. And this position on Syria was concurred in by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who, one month before the US invasion of Iraq, identified it, along with Libya and Iran, as an ideal target for future US action. Sharon stated: “These are irresponsible states, which must be disarmed of weapons [of] mass destruction, and a successful American move in Iraq as a model will make that easier to achieve.” ( Quoted in “The Transparent Cabal,” p. 172)

A month after Bush’s 2004 re-election, Bill Kristol would emphasize the key position of Syria in the “war on terrorism.” He wrote in the “Weekly Standard” that because Syria was allegedly interfering with America’s efforts to put down the insurgency in Iraq, it was thus essential for the United States “to get serious about dealing with Syria as part of winning in Iraq, and in the broader Middle East.” (Quoted in “The Transparent Cabal,” pp. 253-254)...'

http://america-hijacked.com/2012/02/12/israel-lobby-pushes-for-us-action...

Cf
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
http://original.antiwar.com/dan_sanchez/2015/10/05/seize-the-chaos/

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 04:29 | 6823713 quasi_verbatim
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I nominate ZH for The Clunkiest Fucking Website of the Year Award.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:16 | 6823744 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Why, and please tell me you arent using IE and know to turn javascript off and use freeware like adblocker for a basic start...

If you just mean the comments on mobile browsers get unwieldy- you are not wrong but you can adjust your view to a lower number which helps.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 04:35 | 6823715 Moe Howard
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The source of the problem - dual nationals, single loyalty. All a bunch of Pollards.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:24 | 6823753 trader1
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sounds like the MIC was not paying him enough...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:23 | 6823752 Phoenix901210
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Loved the article, especially the Sarin gas bits.

Had to copy it into a word document to read it though!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:35 | 6823761 V for ...
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It is Sunday in the USA. Move on Up. 'With just a little faith, you can surely do it. Enter the steeple of beautiful people where there is only one kind.'

Misers and moneychangers hate happy people. Defeat them. Live every day.  Stop war. Dance to the tune of life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z66wVo7uNw

Hush now child. Don't you cry. Have faith. You can surely do it.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 06:50 | 6823826 falak pema
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Seems like Janet Yellen is not the only one who has her threads (monetary in her case) entangled.

Some people love to make Gordian Knots; and it takes a Putin to cut them to bits!

Knots and Gladius, the Macedonian short sword. The Romans copied the Macedonians; except for the salads. They invented Isicia Omentata a Roman Burger.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 08:13 | 6823907 Cloud9.5
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The truth is that we the people have no options that go beyond the local level.  If we get through this phase of collapse without a nuclear winter we will be blessed.  

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 11:18 | 6824279 Omega_Man
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open season on neocons and kiev nazis

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 11:56 | 6824389 Hope Copy
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Barrel Bomb.. Why is it such a subject to demean?  I believe because it was so effective, as it was not the crude device that we have been led to believe.

Syria has numerous conventional weapons and bombs and as we have seen, they can be dropped by helicopter easily from the pylon mount.  The Russian are doing such.  What I believe is the case is the BARREL BOMBS are rather sophisticated small versions of the 7 ton bomb that was used in Vietnam known as the DAISY CUTTER.  These Barrel Bombs were constructed as shaped charges in multiple layers that would cut through walls (up to 1/2 meter) and such as distances over 15 meters.  Exploding at q to 2 meters above the ground, almost all the blast would be effectively radiated horizontally over a 3 meter vertical height at street level 10 meters from the blast radius and effectively going though the buildings in question with devastating effect.  They worked to well for the CIA.  Assemblage of groups at street level could be problematic with such devices.  What once was considered a safe area to hide in was quite questionable.  Radio and cellphone use was out of the question, thus loss of command and control.

Now the Russians are in and have even more effective bombs, based on the same principle.. and no one is complaining.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:18 | 6824607 tttan
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According to the Koran, it is ok to lie to your enemies which is what this administration is using. To lie is the strategy that this administration has adopted for many years especially to the 51% of stupid and cloned voters ( mostly democrats and liberals)

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:33 | 6824659 rejected
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but not the patriotic peace loving Republicans eh?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:30 | 6824654 rejected
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" Americans don’t want to be treated like cattle being herded by propaganda or “strategic communication” or whatever the latest euphemism is for deception and manipulation."

amerikans don't give a rats ass and like everything else, won't until it affects them either by localized "terrorist" events or that big flash in the sky. Even then, just before their body explodes, they will wonder ............... Did we win?

Bunch of losers!

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 09:33 | 6827014 Phoenix901210
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In England there is a weekly event where the opposition leader to the Prime Minister asks questions to our 'glorious leader'. The current leader likes to take questions from the public and here was mine (because of this article and links):

My question: 'One of the justifications for the opposition of the British Government to the Assad regime is that he is a 'butcher' because he supposedly committed a Sarin gas attack on his own people in Damascus on 21st August 2013.

Since then, this story has been conclusively proven to not be true, partly because there were only two potential places rockets could have come from and the only one that had Sarin residue which did not have the required range.

Neither the Obama administration or British intelligence have offered conclusive evidence to this fact, so could Mr. Cameron justify on what basis he wishes to replace the democratically elected government of the Assad regime. Whom seems to have done nothing but defend his people from Da'esh.'

 

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 03:51 | 6836845 KashNCarry
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Point by point in most of the comments here, I found the discussions to be more thoughtful and relevant to the specifics of the topic(s) raised, as well as the bigger picture. I really appreciated reading most the posts and getting an overall sense of the kind of concern and compassion that exists in most of us unafraid to show/share our sense of humanity. Where fear is expressed, well, that unbridled sense of egoism and machismo always turns up in its flippant and seemingly immature way, only to be heavily down voted. It is always darkest before the dawn, and most of us have a sense of it. I just wanted to share my appreciation to those who took the time to express themselves from a deeper more mindful place. I look for signs of hope where I can so that I can share it where I may. Thank you. This is for all of you: http://marcbrecy.perso.neuf.fr/history.html

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