
Give me liberty, or give me death!
– Partrick Henry, American Founding Father, 1775
They value their civil liberties more than they value life. I disagree with that. You want to be free and dead? I’d rather be not free and alive
– Billionaire Hillary Clinton donor Haim Saban, 2015
Just in case you’re wondering what the people bankrolling Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign think about civil liberties, you now have your answer.
Here’s what billionaire Haim Saban had to say about civil liberties during an interview with The Wrap:
What are people in Hollywood saying about the Paris terror attacks?
Many members of the Hollywood community are very liberal and they value their civil liberties more than they value life. I disagree with that. You want to be free and dead? I’d rather be not free and alive. The reality is that certain things that are unacceptable in times of peace — such as profiling, listening in on anyone and everybody who looks suspicious, or interviewing Muslims in a more intense way than interviewing Christian refugees — is all acceptable [during war]. Why? Because we value life more than our civil liberties and it’s temporary until the problem goes away. But to say this is shameful — I disagree.
[ISIS] said, ‘We’re going to Paris,’ and they went to Paris. They’re saying they’re now going to Washington. Watch out, they might. I’m not suggesting we put Muslims through some kind of a torture room to get them to admit that they are or they’re not terrorists. But I am saying we should have more scrutiny.
Yes, because it’s so liberal to push a false Orwellian choice between freedom and safety. The entire concept of civilization and liberty revolves around the belief individuals never have to make such a sacrifice Indeed, America never would have been founded in the first place had the colonists accepted Saban’s infantile logic.
How does this guy sound any different from George W. Bush or Dick Cheney? The answer is he doesn’t, which makes perfect sense because Hillary Clinton is a dyed in the wool neocon. Always has been always will be. Meanwhile, The Wrap highlighted just how important Haim Saban is to Hillary…
TheWrap spoke to Saban about his support for the Democratic presidential frontrunner — he and and his wife, Cheryl, gave $2 million to Priorities USA Action, Clinton’s Super PAC, and hosted a fundraiser in May that netted another $2 million.
In case you forget, I’ve highlighted Saban in the past. Recall the following from the post, Inside the Mind of an Oligarch – Sheldon Adelson Proclaims “I Don’t Like Journalism”:
At the conference, which also featured top Democratic funder Haim Saban, Adelson also said Israel would not be able to survive as a democracy: “So Israel won’t be a democratic state, so what?” he asked Saban, adding that democracy, after all, is not mentioned in the Torah,and recommended that the country build a “big wall” to protect itself, saying, “I would put up a big wall around my property.”
Saban and Adelson should buy The New York Times together in an effort to bring more “balance” to the newspaper’s coverage of Israel and the Middle East, Adelson suggested to wild applause. Adelson already owns Israel Hayom, a free Israeli newspaper widely seen as reflecting the positions of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is considered close to Adelson, and, more recently, news website NRG and religious newspaper Makor Rishon.
Haim Saban, a media mogul and close Democratic ally of Hillary Rodham Clinton, criticized President Obama’s outreach to Iran, declaring that “we’ve shown too many carrots and a very small stick.”
Still, Saban said that he thinks Clinton would repair the relationship and that he has told her he would spend “whatever it takes” to propel her into the White House. That includes giving millions of dollars to Priorities USA, a super PAC that helped Obama in 2012 and is revving up to aid Clinton in 2016.
But hey…



It is Sunday in my country. Move on Up. We are blessed. The misers and moneychangers hate happy people. Defeat them by being happy with our own humanity, worldwide. Move on Up.
Stop the wars. Move on Up. Enter the steeple of beautiful people where there's only one kind. I'm only writing this because it pleases me and the Constitution which is dismissed as 'a piece of paper' by the War Party CONgress.
Move on Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z66wVo7uNw
He is right old cunt.
What he is trying to say is "I rather be alive and not free. Because I am filthy rich, I have more liberty than those people in 1775. So he is demanding more liberty, money and no death (i.e. jail fucking free)."
Stop this Manichean Sophism....
Life is Aristotelian; primacy of fact, finding the "golden mean" in politics and basing actions on pragmatism and ethics which are doable and do no entail blowback; aka they are NOT contrary to History's timeline.
Nobody is supposed to defend the impossible except a frenchman drunk on champagne who thinks he is Napoleon or Cyrano de Bergerac!
Extrapolating what a defiant colonial expat said in the face of the greatest Empire in the making of those times is like quoting Jim Bowie in the Alamo !
"When you havta go you might as well go with your knife in your hand!"
There are situations and there are responses adapted to each. Don't put people in one same suit; thats called being "concentration camp Eberhard" or "hit man from the IMF" in your logic!
Totalitarian thinking is a double edged sword.
history has a time line?? it is a thing is it? or all you wrote is Your view of history and the values you assign it, which may be as false as most of ours. History is crime and the time line of it is not knowable.
History is a series of crimes but the story of it is very knowable from the perspective of those who write it. The future is unknowable not the past.
The only issue with History, if simplified to a "them" and "us" standoff, is that the losers very seldom get to write their version of it. But that is consequence. The winners write the fall out, aka the results of victory, according to their own rules (to the victors the spoils). I grant you History is not "what might have been if the others had won"...but that is not fact, that is projections of fiction.
That History is written by the winners is human nature's expression of survivalism (when I say "history' i mean the history of homo sapiens involved in that region, I don't mean the history of the birds, bees and trees which is unknown very often, as historians shag their brains about Adam and Eve's progeny).
Crimes are value judgements based on experience and ethics; when a Pope condemned a "heretic" to death he may have meant well in his own book as the people of his days took him on face value; history said afterword you were worse than the man you had killed.
That's beacuse human value systems had changed along the time line of civilization made up of crimes, punishment and paradigm change chimes.
Falak yes I can agree, but there is that common web we see of CRIME..as defined crime is hiding facts controlling an external story with facts and actions removed the guilty are never acountable..the story therefore is corrupt.
Writing history is not easy. Procopius is considered the last Historian of Ancient times. He wrote three major works on Justinian's age : The Wars of Justinian (a panegyric), The Secret History ( all the scandals of the times which he could not write in his official history, in which he is very disillusioned and portrays both Justinian and his scandalous but very beautiful and politically wise wife Theodora as monsters) and the Buildings of Justinian (another panegyric).
So the same man writes three histories where he sees the same facts from three different angles.
Yes History is a bitch, that is why it is often revisited. WHat is difficult to ascertain as even Procopius finds, is the relative importance of events; the sins, the fears, the killings (The Nika massacre in the Hippodrome, a vital event in 532 that conditions the course of Justinian's reign involved 30000 victims), the corruption... or the cold hard facts of what remains; The Haghia Sofia etc...
Liberty and death are the white man's means of micro aggression against the poor black race. They stand for all the repression made by whitey against the black man because black lives matter.
Of course, liberty for the black man is the opportunity to kill each other just like the tribes do in Africa.
Obama bin Laden
"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-hillary-clinton-kept-her-wea...
Jeeeeeeeeeus Christ that CUNT Clinton again?
No matter what - I AM SICK AND TIRED OF LOOKING AT THE CUNT'S FACE ON THE NET......THROWN IN MY FACE...PLASTERED ALL OVER...
...AND THE CUNT HASN'T EVEN BEEN INSTALLED YET....
FUCK!
Hmmm. Give me liberty, or give me death! During Nam I named my old Colt 1911 “liberty” and my M14 “Death”. They worked pretty well together - I am still around. Guess it’s time to dust them off, clean and oil them up with Hillary coming to town…
This guy is mentioned in various 9/11 research sites as one of the masterminds behind the attack. Read what C Bollyn uncovered.
Soderkommando
They value their civil liberties more than they value life. I disagree with that. You want to be free and dead? I’d rather be not free and alive
– Billionaire Hillary Clinton donor Haim Saban, 2015
I'm guessing rich comes first.