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Largest Immigration Wave In Modern History Ends: More Mexicans Are Leaving The US Than Entering

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The 'Great Recession' was evidently so bad for the economy that it stopped the net influx of illegal immigrants from Mexico. For the first time since the 1940s, more Mexicans have been leaving the U.S. to return home than arriving, a reversal that brings down the curtain on the largest immigration wave in modern American history. As WSJ reports, the Pew Research Center figures released Thursday suggest that the surge in legal and illegal Mexican immigration that helped transform America - and remains a contentious issue on the presidential campaign trail - may have peaked for good.

Pew Hispanic found that, according to official numbers, more than 800,000 undocumented workers came to the United States during 2009-2014 while more than 1 million fled the U.S. during the same period. It seems that employment became more difficult after the 2008 economic crisis, while Mexico’s economy actually improved.

Apparently there are so few good jobs that many Mexican migrants – including both those that are legal and illegal – departed or stop coming in and turned instead to work in their home country where they can also be with family.

According to Pew Research, best estimates and careful research show a dramatic change in illegal immigration:

More Mexican immigrants have returned to Mexico from the U.S. than have migrated here since the end of the Great Recession, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of newly available government data from both countries. The same data sources also show the overall flow of Mexican immigrants between the two countries is at its smallest since the 1990s, mostly due to a drop in the number of Mexican immigrants coming to the U.S.

 

From 2009 to 2014, 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S. for Mexico, according to data from the 2014 Mexican National Survey of Demographic Dynamics (ENADID). U.S. census data for the same period show an estimated 870,000 Mexican nationals left Mexico to come to the U.S., a smaller number than the flow of families from the U.S. to Mexico.

 

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Mexico is the largest birth country among the U.S. foreign-born population – 28% of all U.S. immigrants came from there in 2013. Mexico also is the largest source of U.S. unauthorized immigrants.

 

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A majority of the 1 million who left the U.S. for Mexico between 2009 and 2014 left of their own accord, according to the Mexican government’s ENADID survey data.

While it is true that many immigrants are not officially counted and many estimates put the number of undocumented workers much higher than 12 or 13 million, that number is declining for the first time since the 1970s.

This chart below tells a story that words alone cannot describe, and images of border crossings and protests fail to capture.

 

The situation is economic much more than it is political. The Wall Street Journal suggests several factors have undermined the lure of the U.S.

Mexican families have fewer mouths to feed as the country’s birthrate has declined to near replacement level, similar to that of the U.S., relieving economic pressure that motivated migrants to go north to find higher-paying jobs than are available in Mexico. Meanwhile, Mexico’s economy improved.

 

"The days of mass immigration from Mexico are over," said Pia Orrenius, senior economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas who studies migration. "Slower population growth in Mexico along with a stable economy and an expanded public-safety net are developments that have trimmed the 'push factor.'"

But, as SHTFPlan.com's Mac Slavo writes,  the celebration of a historic turning of the tide for one of the most contentious issues in American politics may also herald the tough times ahead for Americans and everyone else working here, regardless of status.

The jobs have essentially dried up, and things stand to get even worse if/when the next economic bomb drops. And that could be any day now.

The writing is on the wall, the system is on edge, and something as simple as a Federal Reserve rate hike could mean financial desperation for millions upon millions of Americans.

Perhaps surprisingly, many Mexican nationals no longer view life in the United States as a better opportunity, with many seeing it is as on-par with life in Mexico:

While almost half (48%) of adults in Mexico believe life is better in the U.S., a growing share says it is neither better nor worse than life in Mexico. Today, a third (33%) of adults in Mexico say those who move to the U.S. lead a life that is equivalent to that in Mexico

But with the receding tide of immigrants from south of the border may come larger and larger numbers of immigrants from China and India, as well as Islamic countries, including many technically skilled workers here on H-1B visas who are replacing American jobs.

USA Today reports on the shift – not of overall immigration numbers, but of their sources:

“The nature of immigration itself is beginning to change,” [Mark Hugo Lopez, director of Hispanic research at Pew Research] said. “It looks like Mexican migration is at an end.”

 

The reversal of Mexican migration doesn’t mean that the United States is seeing fewer immigrants overall, just that their countries of origin are changing.

 

The United States has seen a record number of Central Americans fleeing violence in the past few years, straining the country’s ability to process their requests for asylum. In addition, Lopez said, immigrants from China, India and other Asian nations are coming as students and high-tech workers. Eventually, Asians will become the dominant share of the immigrant population, he added.

Though they claim to have now reversed their decision, Disney recently came under fire for decision to layoff all of its American workers – including those with decades of experience – and replace them with cheaper (but equally skilled) IT workers from India.

The move, cancelled or not, is a sign of the times for a situation that may become more desperate and gloomy with each passing year for native American workers who once assumed relative wealth among the middle class, but are now fighting for survival.

President Obama, for his part, has over-extended – well, abused really – his executive authority to grant amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants from Mexico, but they too may soon prefer their country of origin – particularly if the coming financial implosion hits worst in the United States.

 

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Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:38 | 6822482 tenpanhandle
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Oh, so problem solved.  No need for Trump then.  How convenient.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:42 | 6822499 Four chan
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after leaving millions of kids behind for the us tax payer to pick up the tab on.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:50 | 6822527 Stackers
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That's great except that most Latin American illegal immigrants are from Ecuador, Guatemala, Hondrus, El Salvador and Panama

http://www.ibtimes.com/illegal-immigration-2015-more-immigrants-arriving...

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:59 | 6822564 0b1knob
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< Good riddance, wetbacks!

< Adios mojados!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:09 | 6822597 two hoots
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How about the skills, education, work ethics of the ones coming and going? 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:22 | 6822643 Whoa Dammit
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Darn. For a minute there I thought all the Northerners who have made most of the U.S. just like their dearly beloved New Jersey, were moving back home.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:52 | 6823180 wee-weed up
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More Mexicans Are Leaving The US Than Entering

I call BULLSHIT!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:26 | 6823300 rbg81
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It is bullshit. I don't believe it for a second.  There are some towns around my way that have been totally overrun by Mexicans.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 09:30 | 6824012 KnightTakesKing
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We will still need to build a wall... to keep all Americans from escaping their NWO overlords.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 12:23 | 6824434 vened
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Pew "Research" Center

Founder: Andrew Kohut

Chairman: Donald Kimelman

President: Peter Bernstein

Director, Communications: Andrew Cohen

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:51 | 6823367 SemperFord
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I don't?being in Baja California for various runs from Ensenada to El Rosario to Cataviña, Bay of Los Angeles, Loreto, etc all the way to Cabo and dealing with the locals who are welders, mechanics, etc. We talk to many of them, most being poor as hell and yet when our Baja 1000 vehicle suffered damage in the middle of the desert they were quick to help, offer a hand, food, coffee, welding, all without accepting a single dollar and you talk to them and a lot speak English and have come back having learned some skill. I am not saying i know for a fact the article is true but we happen to come accros the same thing when drag racing in mainland Mexico.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:05 | 6823411 toady
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Wasn't this a meme back at the crash? 

It appears true here in AZ. I can't go in a restaurant without see a sign begging for workers  (We're Hiring!)  and the big crowds of day laborers at home depot are down to less than a handful. 

I know a bunch of Mexicans, and roughly half have gone back, again, mostly back in the first year after the crash.

As someone said in an earlier comment,  the ones  that are staying are the ones from further south.  There are still large numbers of Costa Rican gangbangers and Guatemalan roofers.

So, in the end, the question; who is pushing this meme again and why?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:24 | 6823438 SemperFord
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I agree with you, what's funny is the number of "White Americans" living in Baja along the beaches, wether West or East coast, most live a simple, quiet life and say they would not cone back to the US except to visit.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 10:00 | 6824090 GMadScientist
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Don't worry. The Guatemalans will head back too...once the US starts to suck worse than Guatemala.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:18 | 6823515 Lone_Star
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This is the same BS that Pew has been petaling for 4 years. Notice how it's always the "first time".

Here's one from 2012:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/for-first-time-since-depression-mor...

Here's one from 2014:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/undocumented-immigrant-population-levels-off...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 08:32 | 6823925 Arnold
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Thanks, I knew I had heard that song before.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:48 | 6823360 Bananamerican
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look on the bright side gringos...

You've finally made it to 3rd world status

There's no reason to go North anymore...

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:18 | 6823271 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Always able to find a foreign scapegoat, no?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 08:33 | 6823926 Arnold
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Erik, good to see you buddy.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 08:38 | 6823929 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Try to imagine yourself saying this to someone who isn't "white".

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 10:01 | 6824092 GMadScientist
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"What up, nigga?"

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:54 | 6822532 barndoor
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I think it's pretty demeaning to have the study conducted by the "Pew Research Center".

It just plays into the stereotype that people from Mexico eat a lot of beans.  Not cool guys.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:54 | 6823192 wee-weed up
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What a hoot! (or poot)

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:53 | 6822535 cougar_w
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I don't have the numbers on hand, but I'll hazard a guess here and claim that 1 million Mexican kids born in America (which makes them American kids, BTW) won't cost you as much over their entire lives as 4 or 5 bankers on Wall Street have cost you over just 8 years.

How's that for some perspective?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:01 | 6822569 ebworthen
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lol...yup.  Mexicans leaving the U.S. also tells you how bad the economy really is, and that there never was a "recovery".

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:06 | 6822587 nmewn
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Stories of green shitz are just popping up everywhere! ;-)

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:38 | 6823142 A Nanny Moose
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Better seek medical help.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:05 | 6822582 nmewn
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So, these fine upstanding parents are going back to Mexico leaving their kids behind or taking them with them?

More of a question to phew research than anyone else ;-)

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:11 | 6823419 toady
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Mom is staying with the kids.the three differt fathers of the four kids that got nailed for child support are the ones that went back.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:49 | 6822775 sun tzu
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That's like saying would you rather be locked in a room full of killer bees or a hungry lion?

The bankers don't throw diapers full of shit all over the neighborhood and their children don't go shooting up the streets and spraypainting houses with crap. How about we get rid of both?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 21:16 | 6822883 cougar_w
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I was just making a comparison of monetary impacts for the financials blog crowd.

Oh and now I think about it, bankers won't pick the strawberries, either.

Keep the Mexicans, nuke the bankers.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:51 | 6823366 Bananamerican
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how 'bout we automate berry picking? (si se puede!)

get rid of them both

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 09:46 | 6824051 Another regiona...
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Nuke the bankers eh? Bankers too played a role in making america a super power.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:08 | 6823065 roddy6667
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The bankers support all those wars that benefit only Israel.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:37 | 6823337 Killdo
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I've lived in the US for about a decade and have never meet a bad Mexican. Great people, hard working, happy and very friendly - much better than average white Americans 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:11 | 6823404 Bananamerican
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let's see:

my wife was crashed into by a "Mexiguest" with no license or insurance.

I was nearly run off the freeway by a cholo who wanted to play lane chicken one day for about a mile.

we had to move after "a mom and one kid" rental next door morphed into 5 kids and 7 fiesta-loving, beer-swilling, 'grownups'....

My last physics class was taught by the strutting asinine bandito from "Treasure Of Sierra Madre" (his grasp of English was that poor...his pedagogy that bad)

 In my time in L.A. County I've seen hundreds of the fattest, dumbest (yet inexplicably arrogant), services-sucking, black-market hustling, chunti-wabs and paisos on the planet...

They invented "Reggaeton", Ricky Martin and J-lo's ass......it aint enough.........

They and the negroes do 95% of the tagging in this country.

I could go on but I'd rather just enjoy the idea that Euro traditions might get a little breathing room again in this country.

Are there 'hard-workers' among them? Certainly. They were meant to STAY in Mexico, unless allowed in 1st, to strengthen Mexican culture and Mexican Institutions. We've got enough 'peasants' to last this country into the NEXT century as it is.

"much better than average white Americans"?

Just....fuck you dildo

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:46 | 6823548 Killdo
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thanks for illustrating my point

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 04:05 | 6823692 Bananamerican
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You MADE no point dildo, you simply expressed a sub-intelligent opinion....don't get carried away son.

and I won't task your brainlette by asking How or Why it is you met ALL those enjoyable, cheerful mexicants in amerika, instead of the other way around....I just hope you enjoy your next 10 years in mexico as much as your last ten here...you will be missed (you ARE going aren't you?)

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 02:24 | 6823587 gladius17
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"In my time in L.A. County [...]"

Ah. I think I see your problem.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 05:20 | 6823688 Bananamerican
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well, yeah...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 10:33 | 6824183 GMadScientist
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I've seen everything from tat'd up bangers in Crip colors to my brother-in-law the PhD, but no more of any stripe than I've found among the other melanin concentrations.

The lawn guy never calls in sick or embezzles two commas; priveleged white kids are the absolute worst to deal with. Impaired forebrains with a get-out-of-jail-free card. Ethan Couch. Dubya Bush. This "whatever, I'll do what I want" syndrome doesn't end in their teens either.

 

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 10:18 | 6824136 GMadScientist
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No, bankers do none of those things, because they're too busy engaging in legalized theft because simpletons like you are easily distracted and too dumb to move to a nicer neighborhood (markets, heard of them?).

As for shooting up the streets, it was conservatives who insisted on access to guns; live with your decision and defend yourself (and your graffiti'd shithole) like you said you needed and wanted to, or STFU.

If we're both locked in the room, I'll take the lion, he'll surely want to mount your Siegried and Roy looking ass first.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 12:27 | 6824458 N2OJoe
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Maybe you should check your facts, GMadQuackScientist.

I've never heard anyone but a lefty propose that Illegal Aliens (read: gang members, drug dealers, welfare parasites, criminals in general) should have access to guns.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:23 | 6823108 Bazza McKenzie
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So who do you think wanted those kids here if it wasn't your 4 or 5 bankers?  They are both part of the one corrupt arrangement.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:58 | 6822558 Hogbee
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The illegal occupying the house next to mine has border jumped back home leaving his anglo woman and six kids for everyone else to take care of.  Said he was tired of working under the table and taking care of kids.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:46 | 6822765 Tejano
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Stupid white woman.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:46 | 6822507 TeamDepends
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Between this and Dr. Corsi saying that the Clintons will definitely face serious charges/jail time, we are feeling cautious levels of optimism right now.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:49 | 6822522 cougar_w
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No this is a huge problem! Someone needs to put up a fence now so our landscapers, cooks and construction workers don't all up and leave!!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:56 | 6822546 TeamDepends
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Fuck that, adios amoebas (parasites)! It is high time young Americans learn some skills. We can't all go to college you know.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:14 | 6822612 cougar_w
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You don't get it at all. Our kids need to go to school racking up huge personal debts so they can be forced into proper debt slavery working their asses off for peanuts until they die of a heart attack at 40 before they can collect SSN, all this so that the debt-money machine has bones to grind into proper dust.

We need the Mexicans for any actual work, you know. Shit needs doing! And there is no money in indebting those guys, they just go back to Mexico and you can pound sand for your loan repayment. Not so good for the debt-money machine, to say the least.

Those as can be held to account, get the debt. Early and often. The sooner they die the better and their heirs can pay the balance due.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 21:57 | 6823034 TeamDepends
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I see, it's for the children.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:50 | 6823471 Demdere
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Absolutely right, it is our values that make room for all the immigrants.  If we don't want them, we have to change our values. Let us know when your kid is ready for his time in the fields. The progresion from field worker to factory worker to skilled worker to college graduate educated worker is so routine by this time in America, I am surprized everyone doesn't recognize it as the obvious result of a world integrating itself.  Every increase in the number of people under one positive-sum game is accompanied by a higher level of civilization. We have had an open border with Mexico most of the nation's history, we should attend to what is causing the new problems rather than building a fence.  But you never hear about repealing NAFTA or such.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/08/30/modern-homesteading/

Civilizations fail because they lose the ability to deal with problems and eventually the peasants' lives become too hard and bad things happen to unsuspecting oligarchs and their minions, the cycle begins again.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:16 | 6822619 divedivedive
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In my 30+ year career I knew a few very very wealthy men. The weathiest did not even have a high school degree. They were not stupid - simply impatient. 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:27 | 6822667 Cruel Aid
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education trillion dollar debt bomb just jacked up cost of ed for those with direction. more bs by the dumbass leaders.

water dn the dollar water down education... what is with these economically overeducated idiots. Must be an agenda bc they learned that this doesnt work. I learned it anyway. What i didnt learn is what the fed really is. I know now.

moral hazzard abounds

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:33 | 6822695 Babaloo
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This was baked in the cake years ago when the Mexican birthrate started to decline. And now, as mentioned very prominently in the article, their birthrate is barely above replacement levels.  But as usual in this country, we're always fighting the last war.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:59 | 6823397 doctor10
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now they're trying to defuse Trump

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 11:49 | 6824363 J Jason Djfmam
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Peak Wetback?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:37 | 6822483 ZerOhead
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Better build a wall before Americans start following them...

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:44 | 6822504 divedivedive
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Not to mention those US companies (ie auto)

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:57 | 6822549 yogibear
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Aren't Americans renouncing their citizenship in record numbers?

The Mexicans aren't the only ones leaving.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:41 | 6822742 divedivedive
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You need to research that a little. 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 21:34 | 6822943 nmewn
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I think he meant quality Americans leaving and they come from all races, incomes, skills and backgrounds.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:44 | 6822752 Tejano
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Just putting an end to the stupid US War on Drugs would end a lot of the really ugly violence in Mexico (and Honduras, and Nicaragua, and...). There are some very pleasant place down that way. Wishful thinking, I know. Too much money being made, too many careers at stake. Nice thought, though.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:38 | 6822486 Sanity Bear
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host ran out of blood

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:45 | 6822508 TheFutureIsThePast
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You'll know that's the case when "the bankers" start leaving as well.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:08 | 6823068 Questan1913
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Just the first indication of a certain candidates policy proposals and prescriptive remedies having a positve effect on illegal immigration flows.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:41 | 6822494 WTFUD
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Talk about deserting a sinking ship. turn those Mexican's back on  . . 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:43 | 6822500 divedivedive
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This is an old story - and the situation was the case long before Trump ever spoke on the topic. Actually - such a connected person should have been more aware. Guess it simply wouldn't incite ...

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:44 | 6822502 TheFutureIsThePast
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QUICK, build a wall to keep them in!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:57 | 6822553 yogibear
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Kind of like East Germany was.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:49 | 6822520 cowdiddly
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Rake your own leaves you Fat Pinche Gringo.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:54 | 6822541 divedivedive
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Perhaps that is what they have in mind for those MD qualified Syrian refugees.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:16 | 6823429 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Fat people matter. Fat black people matter even more.

What you said was intolerant and mean. And racist. Do all Spanish speaking people harbor hatred and dislike for people not like them?

Oh and there a crap loads of fat ass Spanish speaking people who have no idea of how to use a rake. Or a napkin.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:53 | 6822539 Atomizer
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They realize Hillary is going to jail. Illegal votes won't matter. 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:55 | 6822542 yogibear
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The canary in the coal mine.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 19:58 | 6822557 Typing Typer
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I wish this were true, but I notice this article came out the day before Obama appealed his illegal amnesty to the Supreme Court. No immigation here, nothing to see! Color me manipulated.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:04 | 6822576 Francis Marx
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People are really ignorant to facts of the whole illegal thing.  Over the past 5 years its been mainly central and south anmericans coming through the Mexican border.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:12 | 6822606 WTFUD
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I don't mind Francis as long as they can sing Guantanamera in tune.

Yo soy un hombre sincero . . 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:23 | 6823107 azusgm
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More than a year ago, Rick Perry said that we were getting 60% OTM (other than Mexicans) across the Texas border.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:04 | 6822577 Jack Burton
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Says a lot more about Main Street economic conditions than all the CNBC talking heads combined. You can lie on TV all you like, but when Mexicans head south because of job market conditions here? Well, that says we are in a Main Street Depression. But don't get me wrong, the 10% are in a boom economy, and the 1% are in the greatest boom in human history.

Look at wage growth and where it is

Look at income distribution

That's all you need to know. Everything CNBC says is propaganda. What is worse, the greatest propaganda outlet now on Earth, what we call National Public Radio, has been selling a daily dose of economic and housing recovery every morning since 2008. Jobs are growing, wages are growing, better jobs are being found, women are moving up in science and business, people's kids are getting better educations and thus better jobs. Even manufacturing is in a new American boom. That is the bullshit those Public Broadcasters have been pushing for years now.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:34 | 6822700 Cruel Aid
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upvote for listening to pbs. I cant do it. Its like a pretensious msnbc

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:05 | 6822585 Atomizer
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Mexican illegal immigrants don't matter. Obama needs bigger fish to catch. Go back to Mexico and find Obama's guns during fast and furious episode. We can expedite your US citizenship. Under law of course.  

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:11 | 6822601 aeslong
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it is already being said that for ordinary people, US has become more like the third world country, this event just proves the fact.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:13 | 6822605 arbwhore
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Is Mohammed a better gardener than Jesus?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 21:00 | 6822833 tarabel
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Are you looking forward to finding out?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:05 | 6823410 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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No. But Jesus wife and daughter wears sexier clothes. And a little variety as well. Mohammeds multiple wives wear the same shit day in day out.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:14 | 6822611 Stanley Lord
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Don't believe it for a second, this stat comes from the same people who can't deliver a letter.

 

John 3;16

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:14 | 6822614 baja canada
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Remember the old joke about needing 10 bucks to get back to Mexico?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:17 | 6822620 buyingsterling
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Only Obama could make the US unappealing to illegals.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:18 | 6822626 Crocodile
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BULL CRAP - that same story recycles every time serious talk of enforcing the border comes alomg or some legislation related to it. 

 

April 2012 - http://www.ibtimes.com/more-mexicans-leave-us-enter-historic-decline-imm... "More Mexicans Leave US Than Enter": Historic Decline

 

More like the truth:

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/08/new-report-massive...

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 21:55 | 6823019 Oath_Keeper
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It is total bullshit. My town is still 25% non-english-speaking hispanic. Try that math in a town of 20,000 people

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:13 | 6823081 Oldrepublic
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Mexico has over 50 consulates in the US. A former Mexican Ambassador to the US says 30 milllon Mexicans are in the US now. That is 1/4 of the entire Mexican population

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:18 | 6822631 Demdere
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This is going to screw up my selective breeding program, dammit!

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/08/19/conserving-my-neanderthal-...

 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:18 | 6822632 Berspankme
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I call complete and utter bullshit. Come to my neighborhood, it's a fucking invasion

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:21 | 6822639 Berspankme
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Remember only #blacklivesmatter

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:30 | 6822674 Atomizer
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Poor fucks, ISIS has taken over the limelight. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:02 | 6823401 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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And what happeed to ISIL. That was a raging for awhile.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:51 | 6822660 grunk
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Can we now migrate to Mexico, get free stuff and then criticize their country?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:27 | 6822664 Atomizer
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7 new minutes of new dead airtime within DNC televised debates. Bravo. 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:31 | 6822678 NoWayJose
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We just need to turn this around on all the "No Wall" crowd - this removes their biggest objection!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:32 | 6822685 oldguy1
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Here's a NEWS CLIP explaining....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2XYsgUosEI

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:35 | 6822702 adr
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Bullshit.

Come to New Guadalajara, formerly known as Massachusetts.

They don't even know how many illegals came over the border. One million out of 30-40 million going back, big deal.

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 08:53 | 6823951 Arnold
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It hasn't been known as Massachusetts since the 1630's.

Mass of two shits.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:39 | 6822728 TeaClipper
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No worries, plenty more Central and South Americans to take their place, and failing that the quota can be topped ujp with Syrians and Somali's

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:41 | 6822738 EINSILVERGUY
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i smell bullshit. how convenient for the chamber of commerce, paul ryan and those allied against trump and those advocating for a secure border. im in houston and you could fool me that its reversing  

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:43 | 6822747 Lumberjack
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Welcome to "The Hotel Americana... Such a lovely place.... You can check out anytime you want but you can never..."

 

 

 

 

 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:50 | 6822781 cpgone
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Its estimated .HOW WOULD ANYONE KNOW>

Please dont publish crap.

Another elite agenda , trying to get more illegals in.

Probably they are going home for the holidays.,

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:50 | 6822787 Muppet
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The  return to Mexico is simply to celebrate Christmas with their families and avoid 'Merica's winter.    They'll head back in the spring.    Its one of the privileges to having two homes...  You get to be a seasonal traveler.   Mucho Gusto

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:51 | 6822792 Chuckster
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Who writes this nonsense?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 21:18 | 6822892 Atomizer
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The same jew script writers that sold you on Happy Holidays instead of, Merry Christmas. 

Political Correctness fucksticks. Zionist style. 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:52 | 6822795 TeaClipper
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One thing is for sure, wheverevr they come from they wont be white

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 20:54 | 6822805 I AM SULLY
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I'm not worried about the Mexicans ...

(it's the spicks that worry me)

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 21:15 | 6822879 Unix
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good, get them the fuck outta here!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 21:27 | 6822919 Atomizer
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Undocumented alien's can be referred under Political correctness lawlessness as...

Illegal wetback's 

 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 21:26 | 6822922 Dadburnitpa
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What a load of shit.  Like these "stats" are legit.  From where I sit, the tide is still rolling in.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:11 | 6823249 Ms No
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Exactly.  People in places like WA state or San Fran will believe it though.  Our border is so porous that they come back and forth all of the time.  In one recent example here a guy that has been deported 6 times got high and wrecked into a family.  We have to pay keep him locked up because you can't keep them out.  They are also telling us here that terrorist have entered and that is new.

http://www.kpho.com/story/29492361/pcso-illegal-immigrant-deported-6-times-smoke-pot-before-crash

Not sure if we are being set up or what but this comes with a 2 week DOD drill http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/fbi-tracking-potential-terrorists-in-phoenix-area

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 21:36 | 6822949 Uranium Mountain
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Is it drought-related? Not finding work in the fields of the drought-stricken West or Midwest slaughter houses?  Damn it, just when I was starting to learn  Spanish. Oh yeah, plenty of Mexicans still in my town. 65% permanent residency.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 21:50 | 6822974 Yperkeimenos
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Ok,i propose building a wall to keep them in.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:17 | 6823092 foxmuldar
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Pew needs to shop at Wallmart. Mexicans haven't been going home. Their all at your local Wallmart. And Illegals do get foodstamps and other goodies we tax payers pay for and a big piece of Wallmarts earnings come from foodstamps. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:30 | 6823447 Jerk_Store
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The foodstamp program isn't for the "people", illegal or legal. It's for WALMART. The pols have the  taxpayers subsidizing Walmart and the common folk blame it on illegals instead of their elected representatives.... Pretty ingenious. 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:31 | 6823119 nosam
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With Obamacare, being illegal and sick in the US could be a death sentence.

A lot of immigrants come to the US with the goal of making a better life for their children. You cant say that anymore with a straight face.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:40 | 6823150 cpgone
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ANYBODY that shows up at an emergency room gets treated ,no questions asked

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:34 | 6823326 Faeriedust
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Oh, questions get asked.  I take it you haven't been to one in the last decade.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:01 | 6823399 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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They wanted to know how many people lived in my home and how many fucking rooms I had. I got insurance and a job just told them all lies. Twenty people in 2 rooms fuck em. 

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:30 | 6823124 zeroaccountability
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There could be a million illegals returning to Meheeco from Kali alone.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:58 | 6823392 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Kali is a disease. They went to Washington and fucked it up. Went to Oregon and really screwed that place up. Lets hope after the mostly hard working and honest Mexicans return home all the Kali idiots in WA, OR go back.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:38 | 6823143 Oldrepublic
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According to a recent study, the hourly wage in Mexico is 20% lower than in China.! Typical Mexican worker make a little over 1 dollar and hour.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:02 | 6823221 Ms No
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Isn't it interesting how the US has sat by and watched the wealthy state (in resources) of Mexico turn into a violent cess pool failing state run by the cartels and yet we have to go all the way to the ME because of yellow cake and Assad?  Funny how that works.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:55 | 6823382 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Isnt it funny how Mexicans took the natural resources and fucked it all up by having the state run their hydlrocarbon business. Must have been to do with Mexicos oil for Mexicans.

Do your research what was once viable was totally screwed once the state took it over. Mexicans fucked themselves on their oil industry.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:51 | 6823370 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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You mean evil Mexican employers hate their Mexican workers and refuse to provide a living wage. Is it racism or ignorance by the Mexicans. Why would a Mexican employer refuse to provide a living wage other than bigotry and ignorant racism?

Glad to find this out. I had no idea how evil and bad Mexicans are to Mexicans based on race.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:51 | 6823176 CAPT DRAKE
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in my place of employ, the chinks are taking over.  mostly 20 something women, fabulously attractive, killer smart, and great to be around for us 60 something white guts.   so imigration aint all bad!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 09:08 | 6823981 Arnold
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What industry is that, oh sage one?

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 22:58 | 6823205 Ms No
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I am not buying the official numbers that Pew is using, unless they are all coming to my particular area.  One Mexican neighborhood where I freqent a business is busting at the seams and needs a new school a good deal larger than it's current size, the school they are in now was built not long ago.  We have a huge outbreak of illegal immigrant crime, its on the news constantly and the number of landscaping guys leaving advertisements is off the hook, they are trying to undercut eachother.   

In the Mexican neighborhood I visit there are always signs of new arrivals, not to be gross but judging by the people who wipe their bum and throw it in the garbage (sign of new immigrant, we know this in areas where we actually deal with it, they are trying to do the right thing because their systems can't handle TP) there are plenty of incoming.  I am nice to Mexicans and if they aren't creepy with tattooed throats (cartel) I will talk to them, you can tell if their new based on their English skills. 

 The volunteer updates coming from those working the border have continuously been showing an increase as well, it's not as bad as it could be but they are finding points and documenting with photographs where there will be 3,000 backpacks in a ditch so they are still coming, not sure what the gov border guys are seeing.  There would have to be a lot leaving for this to work out and I have seen zero evidence of it here so they are going to have to do better than .gov numbers.

Then there is of course the timing of this release and how pissed of everybody is about immigration and sketchy refugees.  Another thing I am hearing about is immigrant medical staff being replaced by immigrant medical staff who are cheaper (mostly of the India variety) so even the immigrants should be pissed off by now. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 09:14 | 6823993 Arnold
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We got a mandate last week, no talking about nothing.

Anecdotal reports are dismissed.

Official reports are the the rule of the road.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:03 | 6823224 Dr. Bonzo
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The illegals are packing up their napsacks. The depression is official.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:08 | 6823240 Silver Bullet
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Typical responses to this from a Breitbart/Drudge/ZH poster:

I don't believe the FACTS you are telling me. All I know is a saw a couple of Mexicans raping a good southern white girl on Breitbart last week...

God most of you guys are fucking morons. Your complete inability to function and grasp reality is truly pathetic. 

FACT: It would take you decades to deport 10+ million people from this country as EVERY SINGLE PERSON is GUARANTEED DUE PROCESS.

SECONDLY, as numerous studies, including the one above show, Mexican migration is net negative.

 

You losers rely entirely on ANECDOTAL information. 

Now...go back to your walmart/trailer parks, etc. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:35 | 6823456 Clowns on Acid
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STFU...you piece of shit

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:18 | 6823514 Silver Bullet
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In "logic" you can probably understand, I was here first, go back to your klan meeting. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:26 | 6823527 Polymarkos
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Everything you type screams IDIOT.

 

Really, give the keyboard back to mommy and go watch SpongeBob.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:23 | 6823523 Polymarkos
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Facts are curious things...our gubbamint produces 'facts' by the ton. Not all of these 'facts' correspond to reality.

 

Apparently, you are too stupid to realize that 'facts' can be made up, that sources can lack credibility.

 

YOU are apparently a fucking moron completely lacking the ability to grasp reality. Truly pathetic.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 06:11 | 6823793 Raging Debate
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Silver - Easy to get rid of them. Shut off the benefits. No, individuals are not to be offered due process under the law. Only citizens are supposed to be but the Republic which has at its heart the concept of justice has been destroyed. 

 

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 10:20 | 6824145 TheAntiProgressive
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Easy there pard, streamline the process.

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:17 | 6823265 Monetas
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BS .... even if it were true .... they have left behind .... enough breeders to keep the population growing .... at least they are Christian .... and they aren't afraid to work .... unless the welfare and education system gets to them .... down here in Mexico .... they work six day weeks .... that's the way it is in many parts of the world .... it's little wonder Muslims are flooding into Europe, too .... create a welfare state .... the people will come ?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:19 | 6823517 Polymarkos
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Dude, the ellipses called AGAIN. Said, SERIOUSLY, KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF!!

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:24 | 6823288 I Write Code
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Escape From Los Angeles - a new epic motion picture in theaters never, starring Cheech Marin in his greatest role since "Born in East LA"

Sat, 11/21/2015 - 23:43 | 6823351 Niall Of The Ni...
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If that's true, then the Mexicans are lucky. They have somewhere to go when the music stops. Most working class white Americans don't.

A point apparently ignored: unlike Americans, Mexicans in Mexico have actually gotten wage hikes these past thirty years. It no longer makes as much sense to head north in search of the shit jobs rich Americans refuse to pay what would be a living wage in the States to have done. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:44 | 6823448 Arthur Schopenhauer
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Remember this ZH article published earlier this month?

America's Endangered Species: Uneducated, Middle-Aged, White

by Tyler Durden on 11/03/2015 21:27 -0500

And here's one interpretation of why this is happening...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh2AHzRw0_0&feature=youtu.be&t=50m16s

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 00:43 | 6823469 LongOfTooth
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Like rats leaving the ship before it sinks?

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 01:18 | 6823513 Polymarkos
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Why do I think this is bullshit.

 

And just what the hell is an 'undocumented worker?' Would that be an illegal alien, a brown skinned savage from South of the 'border,' a place known as Mexitrashia?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 02:50 | 6823614 LetsGetPhysical
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I call BULLSHIT on this article.

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