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South Pacific Showdown? Japan May Send Warships To China Islands
On Tuesday, Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Liu Zhenmin told the press that contrary to the narrative being propagated by Washington and its allies in the South Pacific, Beijing had actually shown “great restraint” in the South China Sea.
China, Liu went on to explain, has tolerated the “occupation” of the disputed waters even as Beijing has “both the right and the ability to recover the islands and reefs illegally occupied by neighboring countries.” Essentially, Liu said China would be well within its rights to forcibly expel The Philippines, Malaysia, and Vietnam from the Spratlys.
Liu’s comments came ahead of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit held in Manila on Thursday and Friday.
At the close of the Summit, Japanese PM Shinzo Abe met with President Benigno Aquino - who earlier this year compared the Chinese to Nazis - to discuss the possibility that Japan could provide Manila with “large ships” that the Philippines can use to patrol the South China Sea.
As Reuters reported on Friday, “the deal will mark the first time Japan has agreed to directly donate military equipment to another country, and is the latest example of Abe's more muscular security agenda.”
"There was a request from President Benigno Aquino regarding the provision of large patrol vessels to the Philippine Coast Guard and Japan would like to consider the specifics," Abe said in a statement.
Reuters goes on to note that “rather than challenge Beijing directly by sending warships or planes to patrol the South China Sea, Japan is helping to build the military capacity of friendly nations with claims to parts of the waterway.”
Well don’t look now, but Abe may soon move beyond the mere provision of ships to Japan’s allies. Here’s Nikkei with more:
Tokyo will consider dispatching its Self-Defense Forces to the South China Sea, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told U.S. President Barack Obama here Thursday, suggesting a possible role for Japan in patrolling those tense waters.
Abe said his government is watching how the situation in that body of water affects Japan's national security. Several nations have competing claims to various islands in the South China Sea.
"The United States-Japanese alliance is one of the lynchpins of our security as well as Japan's," Obama told reporters before his roughly 90-minute meeting with Abe, their first since the prime minister visited Washington in April.
In their talk, Abe expressed support for what the U.S. calls "freedom of navigation exercises" in the South China Sea -- sailing warships through waters claimed by China around islands it has built. Obama said America will continue to do so routinely.
Japan will support countries with a stake in the situation and reject all unilateral actions that seek to change the status quo or raise tensions, Abe said.
Bear in mind that in addition to the generally "frosty" relations between Tokyo and Beijing, Japan and China are at odds over Beijing's construction of oil and gas exploration platforms close to disputed waters in the East China Sea:
Make no mistake, if Japan starts to conduct the same type of "freedom of navigation" exercises near the Spratlys that the US has now pledged to carry out at least twice per quarter, it will be more than Beijing can bear.
The US is one thing, Japan is entirely another and if Ash Carter and The Pentagon are really looking to escalate a South Pacific conflict, they can certainly do so by encouraging Abe to send warships near Fiery Cross, Subi, and Mischief.
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The USSA deep state has gone full batshit, provoking China via their Japanese poodle. Looks like something is about to go seriously wrong for the Banksters, likely another Lehman derivative blowup in the wings. Must blame China and Russia for the impending disaster created by our criminal banksters.
The nips will stop by Monster Island on the way.
Oh goody! That'll help. Tense area, so send more troops from another nation, yet.
Fucking Brilliant.
Who allowed the Japs warships?
We did because Godzilla could turn their country into a radioactive wasteland. Raymond Burr was one hell of an embedded reporter for his time.
As a nascent super power there comes a point where China has to stamp some military victories on the bed post.
Suicidal Japan seems keen to be first into the mincer.
< China islands. (???)
< Disputed islands.
It gets irritating when the South China Sea is constantly referred to as the South Pacific, which is thousands of miles away..
It was mandated. 70 years ago they were verboten to have them, now they must. Obedience training worked.
The question is, is this deepening the Japanese recession or getting them out of the 20 year old recessionist cycles?
It's Fantasy Island!!
And pick up that USSA indoctrinated Kamikaze suicide ISIS Vests on the way. Fucking retards if they think they have any chance against the red dragon.
More theater. All leaders are bestest friends behind closed doors and at globalist meetings. Wars are started to cull the herd, not because leaders aren't gettin along
Japan is using its State Secrets Law to shield its development of a nuclear arsenal.
F*cking with China may be the opportunity Abe wants to go public as a new nuclear weapon state.
Japan has the ability to create thousands of nuclear weapons and has the missile technology to match.
Disagree...
All is going precisely to bankster plan. Did you really think that centuries of unlimited money creation and ruthless secret societies couldn't eventually buy off or kill everyone who would dare to oppose it?
All the world's a stage after all... and Putin and Jinping are merely Globalist Theater players...
Jinping Jimminy!
Putin' on a show for the muttonheads.
"Put-een!"
"Jin-Ping!"
Funny, my Pachinko machine makes those sounds. Conspiracy? Why yes, I do believe it is...
Exactly Zerohead. At least a few here have a clue how the game is played.
...and when the few become many, the aftermath will be legion. But there is no more time, it must happen NOW!!
Japanese PM Shinzo Abe is reincarnarion of Hideki Tojo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideki_Tojo and will go down ;-)
No, dumbass. He's just trying to be another version of his Grandfather.
Natural for Japan to patrol/scout the Spratlys...they're looking for a new home
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/military/article45700044.html
"80 soldiers from China’s People’s Liberation Army are visiting Joint Base Lewis-McChord ..It marked a progression in an 11-year sequence of formal exchanges between the two armies focused on preparing for natural disasters..
Maj. Gen. Zhang Jian, the highest-ranking Chinese officer participating in the exchange, gave a similar perspective.
“This exercise will help the two sides … so we can jointly maintain peace and stability,” he said."
Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/military/article45700044.html#s... Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/military/article45700044.html#s... marked a progression in an 11-year sequence of formal exchanges between the two armies focused on preparing for natural disasters.It marked a progression in an 11-year sequence of formal exchanges between the two armies focused on preparing for natural disasters.Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/military/article45700044.html#s... Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/military/article45700044.html#s...
Rebuild the Yamamoto! C'mon Abe! Plenty of funny money in the J.C.B. for that!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Yamato
I thought they were converting Yamamoto to a star cruiser. There was a documentary on it I think.
Ah yes, the good olde days of CONELRAD .... Don't worry be happy
https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/3YGMafjTZyI7LdOVp5_2bg--/YXBwaWQ9c3Jja...
I felt safer back then with those symbols on the radio dial. I think Disney Radio or Mark Levin would be received on those frequencies now.
With another variant of the Space/Time Warp to contend with!!!
They also recently "re-produced" the Main Storyline in Animation (40th Anniversary, IIRC). Better artwork, bit more credible SciFi/storylines, and of course, CGIs.
Kissanime should have the Subbed and the Dubbed Versions.
Yamato, BTW. Yamamoto is the Admiral.
Might as well resurect the Kaga, Akagi, Soryu too so they can can have matching sunken carriers.
Maybe feign an attack on the Aleutians too.
Fucking stupid Japs.
You'd need to clone Yamamoto, not rebuild him. Incidentally, his first name was "57", the age at which his father conceived him.
He meant the Yamato.
56, not 57
I think you mean Yamato
Yamamoto was their brilliant Admiral
You are correct, thank you.
Rebuild them both!
War is the health of the nation and Japan has not been in war for a long time.
I think it's small penis syndrome.
Now they will get blown out of the water. Japanese to china are considered like Nazi's are to the US.
Reminding you that the USA is funding and arming self proclaimed Nazi's in Ukriane and refused to sign a recent UN anti Nazi resolution along with Canada and Ukraine. Things have changed now that the WWII generation is gone.
I dont think you get the point, Im giving a analogy .
The chinese government will never save face by their people if they dont do something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
I wonder why? What did they ever do to deserve such animosity?... Oh yeah, there was that.
I think a more accurate analogy is American Indian to European American or Nazi to Jew.
in other news, Japan doesn't have enough young people to care for the elderly so robots do the work instead.
Hey, I got an idea! All them narcissistic self centered sensitive college kids who're never gonna get jobs can go over there to change diapers.
BTW, didju guys know that Jap cancer patients suffering from rectal bleeding are how they make their flags?
No? I thought not.
Sadly, Japan is dead walking. Their demographics are lethal and their currency is not even theirs anymore. Sending a fleet now to tangle with China is like some kind of death wish, like Napolean fielding one final grand army. It's tragic and sad.
Japan should embrace their own fading light and set with the sun, in the end deny Commodore Perry and return to their Shinto and Shogunate roots, to leave the outer world to wall itself in pain as it seems destined now to do.
exactly japan is a big country. However, war effort requires resources. we all know how last time it ended for Japan and the main reason was the lack of said resources.
The main reason it ended badly last time was the USN. Britain and Japan were both maritime empires dependent on the sealanes for their supplies. Britain was able to fend off the challenge to its lifeline, Japan was not.
China should keep that tidbit of information in mind, especially since they would end up facing both the Japanese and the United States navies at the same time.
and you'd also end up facing Russians alongisde with them China will love to wipe entire Japan off the map and not to forget your forced bases in there with nukes . You live in a cognitive dissonance state that us navy is invincible and your lack of warfare knowledge confirms that. China has the capability to do some serious damage to both in the 1st chain of isalnds. I think China should use its economic leverage if poked more often
In the US, we produce robot cats for our elderly. Somehow, our priorities have gotten all bitched up..
http://www.slashgear.com/robo-kitty-is-hasbros-first-robot-companion-for...
If my idiot nephew is reading this, no, I don't want a fucking robotic cat for Christmas. Booze is good though.
How about some "Napalmolive?" "Dead Cat Soap?"
What are the Chinese going to use? They are right behind Japan in the Grey Derby.
At least Japan foresaw some of the consequences of their demographic trap and have invested heavily in robots for decades.
So they're going to invade China with the Robocop 3000?
Remind me again where Japan gets its natural resources from?
The same sealanes that China gets its resources from.
China is doing a great job of pissing off every single country that sits in an arc across its access to the oceans.
They have a new strategy-- unite your opposition in the face of a looming threat.
US and Vietnam on the same side takes some doing.
But they done it.
Pissing off ? Well perhaps you don't know much about S.China sea then except your media rumblings. All of them have built islands on disputed territories.
Installations in the disputed region
Occupied by China (PRC)
Cuarteron Reef ·
Huayang Reef
Fiery Cross Reef ·
Yongshu Reef
Gaven Reefs ·
Nanxun Reef and Xinan Reef
Hughes Reef ·
Dongmen Reef
Johnson South Reef ·
Chigua Reef
Mischief Reef ·
Meiji Reef
Subi Reef ·
Zhubi Reef
Occupied by Malaysia
Ardasier Reef · Ubi Reef
Dallas Reef · Laya Reef
Erica Reef · Siput Reef
Investigator Shoal · Peninjau Shoal
Louisa Reef · Semarang Barat Kecil Reef
Mariveles Reef · Mantanani Reef
Swallow Reef · Layang-Layang Island
Occupied by the Philippines
Thitu Island · Pagasa Island
West York Island · Likas Island
Northeast Cay · Parola Island
Nanshan Island · Lawak Island
Loaita Island · Kota Island
Flat Island · Patag Island
Lankiam Cay · Panata Island
Irving Reef · Balagtas Reef
Second Thomas Shoal · Ayungin Shoal
Taiwan Occupied by Taiwan (ROC)
Itu Aba Island · Taiping Island
Zhongzhou Reef
Occupied by Vietnam
Alison Reef
Amboyan Reef
Barque Canada Reef
Central London Reef
Cornwallis South Reef
Da Gri-san
Da Hi Gen
East London Reef
Great Discovery Reef
Ladd Reef
Landsdowne Reef
Namyit Island
Pearson Reef
Petley Reef
Sand Cay
Sin Cowe Island
South Reef
South West Cay
Spratly Island
Tennent Reef
West London Reef
Then let's take it to arbitration, like everyone except China wants to do.
What proof you've that everyone else is interested in taking it to arbitration ? because you feel so ?
The subject is arbitration of artifical islands being constructed in the South China Sea.
It seems like a good idea to me, since the alternative is war in one form or another.
What say you: China and its neighbors should peacefully arbitrate their diffrerences or no?
I guess you didn't read my post above, all of them have built islands but no one is challenging their disputed reefs and moreover they are no threat to US military presence there . You're not taking US into the picture , they see China growing Naval presence as a threat to their presence because just like Russia Chinese also follow the doctrine of Sea Denial and they can't flex their muscles in the region if China becomes stronger. Thats why US media works in overdrive in deluding people that China is the culprit and ofcourse gagging with neighboring nations to target China.Some more facts :
Beijing gets a largely undeserved bad rap over its efforts to claim and develop islands in the South China Sea — the Spratly and Paracel island groups especially. China has long historical links with the area. And the critics forget that in the 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty between Japan and the Allied Powers, Article 2(f), states: “Japan renounces all right, title and claim to the Spratly Islands and to the Paracel Islands.”
This renunciation of the two island groups, and of Taiwan itself, was confirmed in the U.S.-brokered 1952 peace treaty between Japan and the Taiwan-based Republic of China (ROC), then recognized by the United States and Japan as the sole legitimate government of China. So if this meant the ROC had the right to Taiwan then in all logic it also meant the ROC had the right to claim the other islands Japan had renounced in the 1952 treaty — a right which the Beijing-based Peoples Republic of China (PRC) would then normally have been able to claim as a successor government.
The ROC did in fact move to claim the Paracels and until 1950 occupied some of its islands. In 1975 it also claimed sovereignty over all the extensive Spratly island group.
True, others have since made their claims over some of these islands. Taiwan has long been in conflict with the Philippines over largest of the Spratly islands, Taiping or Itu Aba. Malaysia and Brunei also claim ownership of some islands in the group. Towards the Paracels, Vietnam has long had strong claims.
But today the main criticism of Beijing is over the furious pace with which it is dredging and constructing to expand the areas of some of the small islands, rocks and submerged reefs it controls. It is also criticized for then claiming 12 nautical mile (nm) territorial zones and sometimes 200 nm exclusive economic zones (EEZ) around them. The U.S., Japan, and others say these activities deny freedom of the seas. At the Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore late last month, U.S. Defense Secretary Ashton Carter demanded that China immediately halt its “unprecedented” land reclamations in the South China Sea.
Unprecedented? Then what is Japan doing with the tiny Okinotorishima reef area 1,700 km south of Tokyo that it claims as its territory? This “island” originally consisted of no more than two rocks above the water level, each the size of a bed. But it has now been dredged and concretized to create an 8,000 square meter “island” allegedly deserving of not just a 200 nm EEZ but continental shelf rights as well. If the EEZ claim was allowed Japan could control a sea area of more than 400,000 square kilometers, larger than the total land area of Japan itself. If its continental shelf claim was allowed (it is challenged by China and South Korea) it would control three times more. The “island” lies astride important navigation routes and it is touted as helping to deny China’s access to the Pacific. It sustains no economic activity (such activity is a condition for claiming an EEZ) but Tokyo has arrested and fined Taiwanese fishing boats in the claimed EEZ area.
And its reclamation was begun in 1987, well before Beijing’s alleged land grab activities.
Consistency has never been a strong point in U.S. policies. But this contradiction glares a lot more than most.
Some see the problem more in Beijing’s much criticized nine-dash line that effectively claims for China not just the Spratlys and Paracels but almost all the other islands and reefs in the South China Sea. But here too China is following an example set by others — the 11-dash line claimed by the ROC in 1947 before it was replaced by the PRC in 1949. If Beijing is being expansionist in the South China Sea then so was the ROC, strongly supported by the U.S. Elsewhere the ROC was much more land hungry than the PRC in its claims toward Myanmar, India, Mongolia and Japan. Concessions offered by Beijing were often criticized bitterly by the ROC.
Today we see a Beijing less caught up in internal problems, more aware of its economic and military strength and less inclined to make concessions. India’s foolish rejection in 1962 of a very generous frontier offer, for example, has led Beijing to revive earlier and much harsher ROC demands, something we are also seeing in the South China Sea. But in the South China Sea, Beijing also has the excuse of insistent U.S. air, sea and communications monitoring along its coastlines. The U.S. does this under the pretext of exercising air and sea freedom of movement but it only makes sense in the context of the U.S. preparing for possible clashes with China. As others point out, how would the U.S. react if China was behaving the same way in the Gulf of Mexico.
In short, if Beijing has been behaving badly, then so too have others. Even so, it would cost China little to be more compromising. While it often has history on its side, others can claim geography. Toward the Philippines over the Spratlys and toward Vietnam over the Paracels, it could have recognized that they are much closer than is China and they have some rights also. Toward the Philippines especially, Beijing has lost a possible friend in the area by its abrasive criticisms and confrontations.
A situation where Beijing continued to claim and develop areas of interest but allowed others to do likewise in other areas would hardly harm China’s security. In fact it would add greatly to security to the extent that it deprives ex-Cold War warriors in the U.S., Japan and Australia of excuses for muscle flexing and taking advantage of others’s discontent.Distance has never been a factor in the ownership claim to lands and islands far away from the claimant's borders. Hawaii, Guam, Midway islands, etc, are thousands of miles away from continental US and were annexed by the US.
Well, you guess wrong.
And your point about China "allowing" others to develop some areas is hardly a concession on their part-- since it starts with an assumption of ownership that it will then generously waive.
Let's settle the legal ownership of these oceanic speedbumps FIRST and then every nation can do whatever they want with their own sovereign property rather than operating as tenants at will to their Chinese overlords.
I don't care at all what they're doing with these rocks but merely want to make sure that they are, in fact, their rocks and not somebody else's rocks. You seem to feel that their case is ironclad and indisputable. So why should they resist the peaceful arbitration of these matters?
One last time -- simple question:
Binding arbitration between the disputing parties, yes or no?
You've to update your facts about South China Sea first before taking any stance. Wrong? lol I'm stating facts and what is written in treaties which you've never read in your life till date before beating your opinions as facts. In S.China sea debacle no one can take sides . But US and Japan not adhering to the treaty signed is preposterous. You're not getting it these oceanic speedbumps are in disputed territories and not only China but why not Philipinnes or Japan or any of the above mentioned countries is dragged into courts because they are interested in settling it amicably.
Have you ever seen Japan being dragged onto courts for arbitration ? Nope. Maybe China feels the courts are biased in their judgements just like you never see US and its allies being framed or proven guilty for their warcrimes in any court. Rules apply to everyone no one here on earth is exceptional not even your Empire of Chaos. ICC in hague can't drag US for its crimes because US has the right to invade it.
Ofcourse I want a peaceful solution between disputed parties but for some islands as i mentioned above Japan legally has no right to make claims , they are the one thwarting Chinese by not sticking to their promises.
lots of young syrians looking for a place to hang their burkhas
the refugee problem is a global problem of capitalistic, MIC order.
. . . as if those nips don't have enough to worry about with fuckushima.
China has my permission to blow the Japanese warships out of the water along with the American ships. Frankly, they should be blown out of the water for wasting fuel so that they can float their boats, and have pissing contests. I'm not paying NATO for that kind of a waste of fucking time, and gas.
Damn the warmongers for wasting perfectly good money on diesel fuel so their automatons can have pissing contests.
We all know that war will not break out in that region, and we all know that nations are wasting fuel in the process of doing driveby runs past the islands.
Then what are you getting so agitated about?
You say that war isn't going to break out in that region, then you give permission to the Chinese to shoot at vessels sailing in international waters. How do you square those two ideas?
I assume you also give permission to China to override the competing claims of other nations, no matter how unjust their insular viewpoint may be.
Every one of the parties in this maritme dispute has offered to take it to arbitration.
Every one except China, of course.
Because they KNOW they would LOSE.
I get pissed off when people waste money on stupid larks that they know will not pay dividends. I was formally educated in Mechanical Engineering before I went into Experimental Psychology, but I was taught to save fucking money for Engineering sake, and these Assclowns get to waste money driving around the ocean for pissing contests.
Apart from driving every single neighbor of theirs into the arms of the United States, what sort of engineering (or psychology) dividends arise from the costly terraforming efforts of the Chinese government?
Burning a little fuel oil to buck up the Vietnamese and the Filipinos seems way cheap in comparison. Especially since they would be burning it anyhow.
"Apart from driving every single neighbor of theirs into the arms of the United States"
When was the last time you were in Japan? I'm just back (Only a 2 hour flight for me) When was the last time you were in Thailand, Laos or Vietnam? I was in all three back in June. Let me tell you, your above statement is horseshit!
Is that what the nice man at CNN told you?
The people in these countries all have one thing in common, and that's that they don't want the Americans interfering in their business, lives, disputes, and they certainly DON'T want U.S. forces in THEIR countries.
I'm not saying they love the Chinese, but they are certainly NOT jumping in to the arms of the U.S.
Epic fail on your part to spread dis-info....
NEXT!
Well, failure comes in all shapes and sizes. Perhaps it is simply that we are discussing two different aspects of the situation.
So far as I am aware, this ZH article states very plainly that the Japanese government is taking a much more pro-active stance in support of US Navy operations in the South China Sea-- regardless of what the man on the street may or may not want. Pure realpolitik.
In addition, the Japanese are apparently discussing the transfer/sale/loan of a number of large patrol vessels to help the Philippine Navy defend their territorial claims against very aggressive Chinese incursions.
Taken together, these two items would seem to indicate a renewed interest in cooperation with the US Navy in theater, as well as an increased willingness to harmonize allied foreign and military policies to a degree that is obviously at the behest, or at least in the interest, of Washington. No matter how various segments of the public feel about such a devlopment.
To say that this is not a significant geopolitical development or to suggest that it is not happening at all would be, in my opinion, less solidly grounded than your "epic fail" assertion is. What the word on the street may be is not necessarily a major factor being taken into consideration by area governments faced with the need to decide which strategy offers their country the best hope of riding the storm out intact.
I will also observe, however, that the crude stick being shown by the Chinese at sea is being perhaps tempered by an American-style aid-and-loan carrot being dangled in front of various desperate-for-revenue regimes. These nations have a hard path to walk between staying solvent and remaining independent of any subverting association to some foreign hegemon. Given the recent series of anti-Chinese riots that spread all across Vietnam, the desire of the Philippines for naval aid, and the willingness of the Japanese to stand up to China with regard to these territorial disputes, I have little doubt that these nations are more pro-American than previously.
And it has almost nothing at all to do with America and almost everything to do with China.
I would have liked to have seen Montana ????
wetarded.
ABE and Kuroda are on their heels. They can't devalue any more or the purchasing power gets destroyed.
It's already destroyed. Japan is back in recession with the yen 40% lower, from the BoJ intervention in 2011-12.
I don't think the current Japanese government lasts for another year. I'll bet massive calls for change start in February, or March.
Yen you are ever the optimist, how do you think they could last so long? (/s sort of) Japan is a Teflon zombie, who know how long it can keep walking?
I'm optimistically shorting corporate debt.
Japan is governed by a parlimentary system, and the lower houses already have the votes to call an election.
re·fresh·er courseA parliamentary system is a system of democratic governance of a state in which the executive branch derives its democratic legitimacy from, and is held accountable to, the legislature (parliament); the executive and legislative branches are thus interconnected.
But Abe's ruling party has more than half the seats in the lower house. And the ruling coalition controls the upper house. So, there won't be no early elections. This means the current government will be in place for some time.
I said February or March of '16.
Like they dont have enough sunken warships already.
Bravo Japan.
Release the Mothra.
In a conflict between the IJN (call it what you will) and the Soviet retread PLAN, my money is on the Rising Sun mopping the floor with the chinks.
The Japanese Navy took on the two largest navies of the world and gave them one hell of a run for their money before being beaten down. The last invaders to stand on American soil were not Chinese.
Japan was a prosperous nation in the first part of the 20th century.
Not so much today.
Are they going to beat the chinks with their walkers or just run them over and blame it on the faulty floormats in their Corollas?
I'd take the median salary of a Japanese over the median salary of a Chinese any day of the week, holidays included.
And Japan makes lots of nice high-tech stuff that is completely beyond the capability of the Chinese to manufacture.
The last invaders to step on American soil were Syrians if you hadn't been watching. And Obama is doing his best to help with the invasion. Look at Europe, their really fucked. They hanged Mussolini and its high time they start the hangings again. Merkel would be first followed by the other heads of state who were quick to say yeah we want more Muslim savages here to rape our women and impose sharia law. Australia was one of the few that doesn't accept anymore of the invaders. They simply turn the boats back or maybe when nobodys watching, sink them. Oh and while were having a lynching, we need to start here with Obama and Reid, and Pelosi. Can you see Pelosi hanging? she would still be yappying like a punch drunk fool even after she's dead.
it'll be funny watching the usa and china nuke each other while still being able to buy the made in china g.i. joe with the kung fu grip at walmart.
I hear they are coming out with a new Obongo doll with the kung fu grip, except this doll grips male members...
You can hardly see the strings when Abe is talking
WTF!!!
how many cruisers and subs can china make per month?
The Chinese are going to love the Japanese even more if this is allowed to happen. It`s all dickwaving.......until it`s not, then it`s a Rubicon moment!
Coming to a cinema near you.."Hiroshima II" and "Nagasaki revisited"
Self Defense Forces? HA! What the hell are "self defense" forces doing thousands of miles from home? Oh yeah, I forgot, the only way to ensure safety at home is to perpetrate imperialism around the globe. You know, like we did in WWI...
Johnny, get your gun, get your gun, get your gun.
Johnny, show the (HUN... I mean RED... I mean NAZI... I mean COMMIE... I mean) TERRORIST you're a son-of-a-gun.
Hoist the flag and let her fly.
Yankee Doodle do or die...
Aww, our little colony across the Big Pond is all grow'd up. Makes me proud.
It's all the fault of those japanese jews i tell ya...shit, it was right there in front of us this whole time....bwahahahahahhaaarg
Idiots like you give a bad name to "open source" users.
yellen cross...open source????? so u believe anything that is put in front of you maggot???
More like Offense Forces. I guess their year after year recession got to them.
The US is definitely plotting escalation of tension just about everywhere. Would pipsqueaks like Japan or the Philippines be poking the big panda if they didn't have the US behind them? The US is using the pipsqueaks to start the war for the US.
The sooner the US is defeated or exhausted, the better for the entire world. If the American people don't bring a stop to this then they are responsible.
Japan is the new Hawaii and China is the new Japan.
I'm just surprised China hasn't already claimed Japan and the Phillipines as their own soverign territory.
... just more Bread & Circus, Orwell style.
Japan is indeed America's whipped poodle dog. Abe would lick the shit out of Obama's arse if promised a pat on the head.
Abe is a total fuck doll of the USA in the belief that he can regain the glory of the Previous Emperor who got his arse ripped to shreds in WW2, after sacfrificing most of the coutnry to utter destruction, and killing a generation of men. These old Japanese twats like Abe live in the fantasy Japanese world that really only existed in movies.
Note to Japan: You have a debt to China of over 20 million people. I expect that if you bring about war that debt will be the first thing to be called in. But I gather Abe will be there on the smoking ruins of Tokyo shaking his plastic Sumarai sword at the sky still living inside an anime where he is some sort of hero.
PS: Japan, the US is leading you down the path of suicide, you fucking idiots.
True. But there is no more Japan. There is ony commercialism in hock to international financiers who enjoyed killing Japan and its culture.
JPN isn't going to face down CHN over the Spratleys. CHI is their biggest Trading Partner. They might participate in a Multi-National Excercise (AUS is trying to talk them into it) near there.
They'll just lease the old ships over to PHI. PHI might ask the USA for its Mothballed Perrys and Spruances.
You never know - this could be the beginning of a Fleet of Drunken Sailors taking advantage of a Conflict to PARTY ON in the PHI!!!
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With all the attachment the WestPac Sailors have with PHI, they might bring the Squidway (MIDWAY CV-41) and the JFK(CV-67) out of Mothballs/Museumhood and lease it over there staffed with WestPac Vets - for a "semi" retired life of San Miguels in Subic.
Since they'll be berthed in Subic, they'll always be broke-d****d; and never get underway - just like the STERETT(CG-31 - the only US Navy WarShip home ported there in the late 80s). Cheap Booze and Comfort Women sold off by family to Brothel-Bar-Clubs tend to attract desperate Sailors like Roaches to Roach Motels - making them pretty much useless until several days at Sea when they flush the alchohol from their systems.</sarc>
Japan doesn't do anything. It's government in hock to international financiers do. Get it straight. Name the thing for what it is. Governmens in hock to international finance enslave their people; wage war; lie, steal.
Here.. WHY it's suicidal for Japanese to go to war with China.
Japan energy import.
https://www.eia.gov/beta/international/country.cfm?iso=JPN
in time of war with china? all ships supplying energy to japan? will be torpedoes by China subs/anti-ships.
So, how do japan can sustain long war, w/o energy. do you think melting steel to build war ships doesn't includes Gas/Coal furnaces??
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This is Japan import of steel.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/japan/imports-of-iron-steel-products
Do you think war doesn't consume iron ore, or steel/iron products?
Do any of you knows, that japan has self sufficient in iron ore's supplies? or does it still have to be imported?
Again, do you really think China would let those supplies ships pass through??
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Making anything these days, involving using small amount of rare earth materials.
Who do you think major supplier of rare earth materials?
http://investorintel.com/technology-metals-intel/china-sets-first-2015-r...
I times of war with China. Do you really think China would still wants to supply these important materials to its enemies?
Here, what happens, when China threatened Japan that it would stop exporting these materials to Japan.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/china-business/8022484/China-blocked-...
Japan's back down, and release that china ship's captain.
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i just giving you just a handfull reasons. we are not discussing this into minute details.
See just how dis-advantage Japan have, if it wants to go to war with China? I don't thinks Japs really that stupid.
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Know somebody said US will intervene if Japans goes to war?
REALLY? Over a bunch of rocks in the middle of far away oceans from US?
You know the WAR RECORDS of US, right?
Did US won the war with North Korea? the borders still sits at 38th pararrell. Not farther north into North Korea.
Did US won Vietnam war? Vietnam now rules by communists govt that US carpet bombing. And still US is the one that ran out of vietnam like COWARDS.
Did US won Iraq war? There is still US military trying to chase ISIS, Al-Nusra. Russia reach a BETTER RESULT bombing that shits than US did for >14 years!
Did US success in decimating AQAP (Al-Qaeda Arabian Peninsule)? Or the movie BLACKHAWK DOWN portraying US failed war, and again, ran like COWARDS??
Did US won a war with Taleban? Or is it, in the PANIC STATES, those AC bombs hospital, wedding parties, musleem mosque, and killing more civillians, that breeds MORE TALEBAN SYMPHATIZERS??
Do Japan really wants to have a backup of country that proven Time-to-Time again, to ran like COWARDS from ANY BATTLEFIELDS, even with MUCH LOWER TECH than US own.
Really??
Really that Japan THAT SUICIDALS??
What else does Japan have to lose? Crap economy, huge currency devaluation, demographics.
For China, it's payback for WWII. Also China has huge manufacturing overcapacity.
Seems like a direct clash between the 2 is inevitable.
The worse the economics get the closer they get to war. The ultimate diversion.
Screw it, Im in...going to send my R/C cigarette boat there also...
long dead Asiatic folds...