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US, French Aircraft Carriers Rush Toward Syrian Coast To Find Numerous Russian Warships Already There
Two weeks ago, on November 5, and one week before the Paris terrorist attack, we reported that somewhat unexpectedly, France had dispatched its only aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, to "the eastern Mediterranean for operations against Isis in both Syria and Iraq."
It was unclear just what these pre-emptive operations would be and why France is getting so dramatically involved in the campaign against ISIS. Not knowing the dramatic attack that was about to unfold (whose false flag origins have been quickly ignored as nobody has yet explained why a fake Syrian passport was found next to the suicide bomber), we speculated that this move had to do with the departure of the CVN-71 Theodore Roosevelt which had left the Persian Gulf region a month ago, leaving the entire 5th Naval Fleet without a US carrier presence for the first time in a decade.
One week later, we found out that Paris may have had an advance hint of what was about to unfold when on the night of Friday 13 it all fell into place.
But with the French aircraft carrier full steam ahead toward the Syrian coast, the US could not afford to leave the airborne defense of the region to the French, so it did what was just a matter of time: it weighed anchor on the CVN-75, Harry Truman which was deployed toward the Middle East where according to the Daily Press it will "fight the Islamic State."
USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) Deploys from Norfolk, Va. from SldInfo.com on Vimeo.
According to the Press, "the Truman is expected to reach the Persian Gulf before the year’s end. The U.S. has been launching air strikes into Iraq and Syria from aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf — at least until last month, when the USS Theodore Roosevelt left the area after an extended deployment. The two-month gap is the first in nearly a decade that the U.S. has had no carrier in the region."
While the Truman’s departure date was set more than a year ago, it came about six months earlier than first planned. In October 2014, it was announced that the ship would switch deployment cycles with the Norfolk-based USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, which required an additional 10 months in the shipyard.
As the Navy Times reports, "there were no immediate changes to deployment orders as a result of Friday's terror attacks, but there is great resolve among the sailors to support their French allies, said Capt. Ryan Scholl, Truman's skipper. Scholl said his crew is ready to bring peace or "violent destruction."
Something tells us it will be the latter.
Once again, here is the ETA: Carrier Theodore Roosevelt left 5th Fleet in mid-October, leaving that region without a carrier until the Truman CSG gets there, which should be about six weeks, or just around the New Year.
Then again, according to the latest Stratfor naval map, the Truman is already approaching Gibraltar. If accurate, it means the carrier will be next to Syria in a couple of weeks tops.
Scholl offered assurance to coalition and U.S. forces still in the fight across Syria and Iraq as part of Operation Inherent Resolve.
"The Harry S. Truman battle group will be there in due time and execute our mission successfully," he said. "We hope that brings some peace of mind to the people that are out there, both our coalition partners as well as our troops on the ground, and it brings a hard-to-swallow, deliberate pause in our enemy."
Where things get very interesting is what the Navy Times says next:
ISIS is not the only challenge that awaits the flotilla, which includes the cruiser Anzio, Carrier Wing Air 7, and destroyers Bulkeley, Gravely and Gonzalez. Russian, Chinese and Iranian marines have established their presence in Syria, and Russian warships from the Black Sea have relocated to the eastern Mediterranean to protect fighter jets conducting airstrikes in support of Syria's Assad regime. In preparation, the strike group's Composite Training Unit Exercise focused on adversaries that more closely resembled those of the Cold War.
Russians and Iranians we knew about, but Chinese? Does the US Navy know something that has not been made public previously?
While we await the answer, what we do know is that suddenly the east Mediterranean is about to become a warship and aircraft carrier parking lot, with the Truman and de Gaulle side by side, just as we predicted it would be a month ago when we said that the summer of 2013 naval scenario is unfolding once again.
Then there are the Russians. Here's the latest from Tass:
Ten ships of the Russian Navy are involved in the anti-terrorism operation in Syria, Russia’s Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu told President Vladimir Putin on Friday.
"The naval group comprises ten ships, six of them are in the Mediterranean," the minister said.
Shoigu said the Caspian Flotilla warships on Friday launched 18 cruise missiles at terrorist positions in Syria hitting seven targets.
"On November 20, the Caspian Flotilla warships launched 18 cruise missiles at seven targets in the Raqqa, Idlib and Aleppo provinces of Syria. All the targets were hit," Shoigu said.
As we said: busy, and it's only going to get busier.
But the punchline is Russia is already treating the Syrian coastline as its own playground, and has imposed explicit no fly zones in the eastern Mediterranean as the following tweet reveals:
??? ????????? ???? ??-?? "Russian Navy exercise" ????????? 14–23 ??????, 21–23 ?????? ? 24–26 ?????? ??????????????. pic.twitter.com/Pi3qwpw1wB
— Ilya A. = ???? ?. (@ain92ru) November 20, 2015
What happens when both the French and the US navies, both packing dozens of airplanes, arrive and convert the Mediterranean off the Syrian coast into one big warship parking lot.
We can only hope that the sudden confluence of goodwill and best intentions by the superpowers to crush ISIS is genuine instead of merely a ploy to get everyone in the same place and result in the biggest ever Gulf of Tonkin redux and an "accidental" sinking of one or more ships... with or without a fake Syrian passport planted next to it.
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Will the French be concentrating fire on Syrian controlled oil infrastructure and power stations, too?
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...
http://original.antiwar.com/dan_sanchez/2015/10/05/seize-the-chaos/
Remember the Farce.... Can't let a good crisis go to waste. Welcome to the WWIII cluster fuck.
Nobody knows who is on whose side.
Just like the Gog and Megog prophecy .... Golly gosh and gee whiz!
Don't forget there are a couple British airfields on Cyprus, as well ... Just sayin'
And a bunch of Israeli subs. Whereabouts unknown.
what about the russian, chinese and american subs? it's those you should be worried about mate
I am seeing groups of high flying aircraft heading east off of the eastern seaboard now "mate". Looks bad in my book.
is that right? imagine that...
When the americunts will get there my guess is that the russians will receive them like this (hopefully):
http://goo.gl/bNS18Z
PS I know that not all the US soldiers are black, but still...is a nice picture.
Youre a piece of shit.
RIPS
Do aircraft carriers have any "intrinsic value" you fucking retards????
Yes. They do.
They have UTILITY. In fact they are being utilized right now.
Value and utility are synonyms.
Do your guns have intrinsic value, FoneStar?
Of coirse they do.
But you value a concept which I do not.
People who value the same wil trade using that.
Personally I will not. I do not have to accept your values. You need not accept mine.
Is not Liberty wonderful?
Hollywood hopes you pony up for a few more movies quick before this get's under way. Paying for your propaganda rules!
Ah we get it, teh ship's hull and ship's guns have "intrinsic value" because you can touch them.
But the ship's radar and radio system are totally worthless because you can't touch a radio wave or a radar signal.
Dip, meet shit.
Radar and radio exist as physical components that do stuff for people that mean something in the physical world. Like not crashing into stuff, or getting a missile up your ass.
Get a shitcoin to do that, and you got something going on - oh.
Wait.
Valuation dropped again, fucking over anyone vested in crypto ponzi.
Fuck me running, I'll bet you hate it when that happens.
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I think this deserve a ban. Not the first time he post porn link.
These people are starting WWlll which will result in the end of humanity and not a whisper of protest.
Obama the magic man who silenced protest with his #blackwarsmatter skit.
I guess that is why the Deep State installed him as a rookie.
Yep, he's an enemy of Zero Hedge trying to make it unusable at work because of the risk of opening porn. He's been littering Zero Hedge with porn links for weeks.
He needs to be banned.
Ah well figured Blue Verv. Tylers take heed the pornster is messing with your potential click count. Unless its the Tylers being paid by this porn site ? Nah that would n,t make sense to stoop so low, Zero has a reputation as a "high brow" cognocenti place and that shit really brings the tone down.
You cunts ever heard of freedom of speech?
It covers the freedom of link also.
You just wrote the perfect example of abusing freedoms to the point that it has to be addressed.
Anonymous User is dragging things down to the fathomless depths of his own fetid mind.
Especially the American ones. They may run across one of their Israeli "allies" and get Libertied.
That's an interesting point. Will Haifa be opened to Am/Fr/Br ships?
U.S. Carrier Strike Groups Locations Map – Nov. 20, 2015
http://southfront.org/u-s-carrier-strike-groups-locations-map-nov-20-2015/
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"We hope that brings some peace of mind to the people that are out there, both our coalition partners as well as our troops on the ground, and it brings a hard-to-swallow, deliberate pause in our enemy."
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WTF? What troops on the ground? Someone best fire up the Obamatron's teleprompter!
3 things jews will do to prepare for their temporal "messiah" according to a muslim scholar. (Fwiw)
http://youtu.be/NDqL6AJP9v8
"3 things jews will do to prepare for their temporal "messiah" according to a muslim scholar. (Fwiw)"
He is correct.
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
Those carriers are sitting ducks against Russian third generation Cruise missiles, which is why the US carrier group was moved out of the Gulf after it was realised (Duuuh...) that they could be hit by Cruise missiles from the Caspian. They would be the first to be taken out in a US escalation, leaving Russian Syrian land-based air power in control of the immediate vicinity, especially after deployment of the new Russian S400 SAM systems to deal with possible interventions from Cyprus. So I don't think the West should start to get any duplicitous ideas here.
Those shit fucking ameriKunt ships can run, but cannot hide from superior Russian tech. Russia could wipe them ALL out within 5 min. And when I say 5 min, its all they way back to your eastern coast, from the med.
Remember Pearl Harbor. It was another false flag, hatched and pulled off without a hitch because there was no widespread communication at the time.
As planned we were plunged into another central banker bloodfest because the American public was so outraged. Until that point Americans wanted to stay out of the war. Which was started by the same ilk we're stuck with today.
Some time ago, I remember reading that the best ships were sent to San Diego a week or so before the attack. All those killed were nothing but expendable pawns to the DC psychopaths.
Do these guys think they are any more valuable? Were there personnel transfers in and out beforehand? Their grieving spouses, orphaned children, and distraught families mean nothing to the warmongers and indeed will be at their mercy.
Anyone of any value to the Matrix was probably reassigned. This perverse exercise has nothing to do with American security, just psychopaths afraid that they will lose control over their favorite murder and mayhem game.
DC psychos are gambling with every American life on those ships, Captains, officers, cooks, mechanics, they're all the same expendable pawns to DC control freaks. Anyone killed will make headlines and revenge will be the order of the day. As planned.
Is this why there is only 1 AC in the region at a time....they want 'losses' but limited losses.
The Kalibr M shot from the Caspian Sea on tiny littoral ship no bigger than a large yacht were for ground targets and they are generally sub sonic. They are harder to detect and shoot down then Tomahawks. Probably more relaible as well because Raytheon and The Pentagram are so corrupt like the rest of MIC.
See F-35 mega expensive pile of shit hangar queen of corruption. Aka can turn, can't hide can't fight per Pierre Sprey. Also can't even f**king fly apparently. Or the F-22 which starves the pilot of oxygen.
The Kalibr M anti ship missiles are even more dangerous. They go supersonic before the terminal phase.
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151012/1028390749/russia-kalibr-missile....
They also have the Onyx aka Super Sunburn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbPFEpJSRT8
The Kalibr and Onyx are both supersonic against ships.
The Swedes have a pretty cool anti ship missile but they are an emerging Islamic state.
The claim that the carrier left the Gulf because of the Russian action is totally untrue.
The USN announced months ago that it would leave in October. And it did.
It takes weeks to organise this kind of movement, it is not just the carrier but its whole task group.
Reminds me of Airplane when everybody lined up to slap the lady (isis)
Umm didn't Nostradamus predict a great Western fleet would be destroyed in the eastern Med.
Already there? everyone knows the Russians have always had a navy base there.
Oh, "isis" will likely get some shore to ship missiles from Uncle Scam, Salafist Arabia, or Ersatz Israel soon enough.
We didn't know they were there until we came over the horizon.
Half of us were afraid the ship would fall off the edge of the earth.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/authorities-struggle-to-contr...
The distruction and body count of this is beginning to sound like Vietnam....how many can there be?
German Politician says "Fuck US Imperialism":
http://russia-insider.com/en/top-german-politician-tells-ash-carter-go-f...
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It would be well for your government to consider that having your ships and ours, your aircraft and ours, in such proximity... is inherently DANGEROUS. Wars have begun that way, Mr. Ambassador. [/Jeffrey Pelt, The Hunt for Red October]
Damn it Buzzsaw, you beat me to it. I was trying to find exactly that clip on Youtube, but no dice. And here's to Richard Jordan, the handsome charactor actor playing Jeffrey Pelt, who passed away in 1993. (He also did a fine job as Duncan Idaho in Dune.)
Slightly off topic but this needs to be said: Hope the retards in Hollywood read you post. Here we are referencing movies from 25 years ago with an Harvard educated actor delivering them with credibility. Compare that to the dribble that's out today for retarded teenagers that watch this shit like hypnotized squirrels, no wonder no one wants to go to the movies.
+10!
He had a distinguished background, grandson of the respected Judge Hand.
Wish we had more actors of that calibre today!
That's drivel.
The terrorists just needs to hold on a few more weeks before the carrier arrives and the care packages start dropping. Dear Uncle Sam we really liked the Tows you sent. Please add more manpads and mustard gas next time, Sincerely- Habib al-fukawi
Somebody has got stop the Soviets genocide of Allahs faithfull servants. Why does Putin hate Allah and Muslims?
Sweetie, go down to the play room if you want to act like that. The grown ups are having a conversation here.
Unlike most, I will assume that you are being sarcastic, and that it went over like an airplane joke.
fxrxexexdxoxmx is a code statement that reads-i lick dirty swetty semite assholes.
It was sarcasm...
His code reads FREEDOM. (Place an x after each letter...)
"What is it, PO 2 Jones? By the way, cute ass."
"That's derogatory Chief. My place after watch?"
"As usual. Now, what did you want?"
"Chief, all the bombs and missiles for the planes have been replaced with pallets of halal MREs. And there are other pallets of ammo and rifles."
"We drop what we're ordered to drop, sailor."
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. [/Admiral Josh Painter, The Hunt for Red October]
Some damn fool thing in the Bosphorus?
Bosphorus, Balkans. Pretty soon your talking real dead people.
3,000, 90,000, 230,000, pretty soon you're taking a lot of dead people.
Anyone see Crimson Tide? That's some seriously scary shit with the Obomber sending over his toys.
Suck to be a fisherman in the eastern Mediterranean.
I hope they get up a good head of steam if they intend to dock in Damascus.
They opted for a canal instead of a pipeline.
Never fear, with Obama as your Commander-in-Chief nothing could possibly go wrong.
As a reminder, I don't use sarc tags ;-)
/scar
Well...maybe in a different form (on the tags) and I have a few those / too.
A body without scars shows a life not lived to the fullest, lived meekly, timidly. I could die tomorrow a happy man...but I damned sure ain't planning on it ;-)
In order to die tomorrow, there's a whole lot of heartbeats you must not miss today.
But that's just the thing... He's not 'commanding' anything, save for the obligatory speeches and various policy announcements. He calls major league foreign policy shots like I call the shots inside the Vatican...
You won't go unaffected either. Better learn to camp out in Algonquin Park (or north of Timmins) permanently.
For Christ's sake, this is getting scary, especially for the Middle East Islam inhabitants believe this is a Crusade to overtake their most important commodity----Oil. Pick your winners--Monarchs, Dictators, Capitalists or Israel
Why is it scary? Look at the stratfor chart. Unassing the Med as fast as they can.
"We asked for the Navy
"To come to Tulagi
"The Navy responded with glee
"They sent all their sections
"In eighteen directions
"My God what a fucked up stampede"
Human powered Roomba™
Going to need a model made to clean pool bottoms I think.
The French must be jealous of all the Japanese warships on the bottom of the ocean.
The French?
How about Port Arthur and Tsushima?
It's about the Russians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Port_Arthur
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataille_de_Tsushima
A junkyard at the bottom of the sea.
this is not scary, this is insanity
some of you here really make me scratch my head, it really is that bad
Coal tar shampoo to try, reduces itching.
thanks for the tip skip, i think i will pass
Reduces non-cancerous skin.
Good for the French. With a US carrier gap happening in part thanks to the Moslem-in-chief fucking with the Navy's maintenance schedules for both the Abraham Lincoln and the George Washington, France has apparently offered the De Gaulle to cover the gap between the departure of the Theodore Roosevelt and the arrival of the Harry S Truman.
It's what allies should do for one another, no matter what their domestic policy differences may be.
I hope they remembered their giant white flag.
@BarkingCat
Happily for the US the "monkeys" didn’t surrender at Chesapeake and Yorktown! The USA wouldn’t exist then …
Yep. Muslim president. As if there aren't at least a dozen legitimate grievances to lodge against the son of a bitch already. Bravo. *golf clap*
Are you and Oily Taintz the only two fuckwits touting that shit anymore?
Classic Sunstein.
They keep hitting the muslim thing hoping no one will notice the Chicago Jews who backed young O'Bombya, his appointment of Mossad agent Rahm Emmanuel as his chief of staff, and his wildly disproportionate appointment of Jews, but not muslims, to top positions - from the fed to treasury to commerce to the national economic council to trade rep and on and on and on.
Tarabel is a hasbara troll, and tries very hard to appear reasonable and considerate. But distilled to their essence, the posts are neocon/zionist talking points. Israel never does anything wrong, is a loyal 'ally,' Putin is the new Hitler and so forth.
Zionists of course want nothing more than to dehumanize Israel's foes - to include those pesky natives.
Despite the Potemkin attempts at argumentation and polemic, the same old Islamophobic bromides and hasbara inversion of the facts dominates Tarabel's posts. And Godwin's Law is demonstrated ad nauseam.
https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=35866.0
When someone objects to comments/links about Israeli spying or warcrimes with some invocation of hitler or nazis (as if it is 'hate' to point out Jewish/Israeli hate) you can bet that their less rabid comments are often more subtle hasbara.
And by the way - defending Israel or Judaism from false charges is completely legit. Rewriting history and perpetually excusing Israeli violence and Jewish racism is not.
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Wikipedia/Hasbara
exactly! The purpose of the 911, English subway, and now Paris false flag attacks is always to try to convince the Western sheep that Israel's ethnic cleansing and murder of thousands of Palestinians is justified
Absolutely...Israel has had complete control of our foreign policy since January of 1981. Obama acts like he dislikes Shitheadyahoo. That only means that he doesn't massage his balls when he sucks him off.
so the Americans are not calling "French fries" "Freedom fries" no more? Bet the average 'merican STILL wont be able to find France on the map tho. Forget even asking about Syria.
Most amazing is that the totally ignorant US generation now see the French as cowards because of the avalanche of neo-cons propaganda and silly jokes after the firm and sensible refusal of the French to join America in Irak, in 2003.
Yes, after watching this truthful, serious documentary, The French knew it was a joke.
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/jmcxny/chappelle-s-show-black-bush---uncen...
Hell, most of those kids are unaware of the brave assault of French Special Forces on that terrorist Greenpeace ship.
That cook had it coming.
Concerning the Rainbow Warrior (1 accidentally death indeed - in 1985)
It was actually a fault of French military security service (DGSE), that France recognised.
Having admitted responsibility, France initially offered an official apology and acknowledgement of breach of international law.
Additionally, the UN secretary-general awarded New Zealand 7 million USD. This is in addition to compensation which France paid to the family of the only victim of the mission and to Greenpeace (settled privately).
France also offered a new boat to Greenpeace.
Guess they did not send you the memo. The US Govt is totally corrupt from top to bottom. fedetral, state, county and local. The 2016 elections are meaningless. All the RINO-shit traitors want full on war as do the evil Dems. They cheer on Jonathan Pollard's buddy Bibi and Porky the zio kings like little sheep.
Just like white American males cheer on their Trayvon thug ball playing heroes. Oh and the great hope of millenials and that shit - waiting for the new Star Wars or next mindless app. Pathetic.
The Russians are serious people. 25 million russian Christians were murdered by the Bolshevik zios.
That's an awful lot of penis in one area.
Quite the dick flopping contest we have folks.
Only Caitlin can mistake pussy for penis. And O-boy.
Anderson: It looks like 2008 will see our first pseudo-black president! Wolf?"
"Yes, Coop. The Bath House has a margin of victory by several million votes."
"What do the exit polls say? His programs or a historic chance?"
"Neither, Coop. It would appear several million BJs by the candidate swayed the vote."
"Well, he certainly got mine."
first,
i thought:
the advent of the iron age
made the elongation of the male sex
unavoidable
and its main aim
the penetration
the knife, the sword, the spear
second,
i thought:
image: http://static.urx.io/units/web/urx-unit-loader.gif
gunpowder, firearmsthe main aim shifted
to ejaculation
and - bombs:
the mystification of the orgasm
third,
i think:
simulation
through screen or helmet
makes this
pornography remind me again, how many superpowers are needed to beat up a bunch of mercenaries? How long do we figure this charade goes on, untill a Russian plane bumps a NATO plane?
And not enough goats to go around.
Can't you see this is a land of confusion.
Hope they got a big boat full of condoms/body bags.
so now i am censored by zh imagine that...
Above comment to read I am finding not possible.
unpossible....on another thread
OK, this motivates me to find and finish a blog I started on why this is so dangerous.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/22/if-windows-crashes-wwiii/
We had conventional-for-their-era reasons, actions by individuals and decisions in frameworks of the indiviual mind of the time.
So we will have conventional-for-this-era reasons and actions by individuals and decisions of individuals in the frame of ours.
I am opposite most opinion on many things. I have a great deal of confidence in people. I am an engineer. I have great distrust of organizations and systems of technology.
Your evaluation of those facts could well differ from mine. I remind you of how much $ investors of the Taleb frame of thinking make because so many human judgments are quite optimistic, right?
Unless Obama backs down, again, we are staring into the abyss of WWIII and you are inspired to finish a blog post?
Silly me. Here I am posting a reply to your post.
You honestly think these things run Win-doze? That OS is for sheeple happy to have their every move recorded and tracked... (as is OSX - Sorry to break your bubble Apple fans but OSX and Windows is akin to Republican and Democrats- but I'm sure most are happy with the illusion of choice). Mission critical software is *all* Linux or BSD.
The ISS runs Debian Linux, was XP until a couple of years ago (frightening right?). Aegis boats run a Linux network with a Redhat derived real time kernel OS called Redhawk. All mission critical systems are Linux now. By the way, the OS really is ready for prime time as a personal OS; if you haven't tried the latest Debian (8), you have no idea what you are missing. It's fast, stable, and pretty (not to mention secure). I will never understand why it is so hard to get americans to try Linux, I think it's deep consumerist conditioning, they just can't get over the fact that it's free (and comes with access to thousands of highly functional, cutting edge applications, FREE). Crowd sourced. open source, it's here in a big way. For sofware development it's the only way. Join the quiet revolution :-) FOSS baby... suck it Bill.
.... Almost forgot to mention. For security critical applications, Qubes is coming up fast after years of development. High Joanna, love you baby, You Rock :-)
https://www.qubes-os.org/
https://www.debian.org/
Nah, his premise was that they're running proprietary code slapped and patched by cozy vendors who were allowed continual retesting under nothing but favorable conditions until it was able to pass the Navy's own poorly designed tests (lower the standards and let the vendor continue to claim fixes until it "works.") Then, allegedly, because the systems would likely be fairly unique one-off's of great complexity, the vendors would be in no position to competently service them as additional fixes and upgrades were needed in the future. Likewise, the systems, being built to taxpayer-raping low standards, would be extremely complex and--bottom line--even more buggy and far less dependable than Windoze . . . on a good day.
That's what I remember. Sounds plausible enough to a layperson at least. It was an attempt to interpret the alleged Russian shut-down of the Donald Cook via electronic warfare.
If Windows crashes: WWIII
A line by the author in the 2nd paragraph of the article says it all: "I don't know anything about military software..."
Would it not be more like: If Windows crashes: WWI sided.
We had GPS in the army, but we still had to learn land navigation with compass.
You always have backups in case the computers fail. Always.
Just one spark, and it's 1914 redux.
Wish I had a crystal ball as to when, but can it be much longer? So much tension in the world and in this country, the proverbial rubber band just has to snap one day, pretty soon...
If they didn't know they were already there then what did we spend the last 9 trillion dollars on, weather satellites?
With the resources we have, any intelligent, enterprising, and dutiful intelligence service could probably have drawn some pretty good conclusions, but those things are so passe these days under Obama.
I think the implication is either:
The Russians and Chinese have superior technology that allows them to hide ships on the open water, or
The US knew what was going on all along and kept quiet, or
The vaunted US military and espionage agencies don't really have the greatest gear and most capable personnel but the money was spent somewhere and someone got really stinkin' rich on the deal but now it is time to pay the piper for being a sucker.
Hey Buddha, the 9 trill was WELL spent on the Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System. The Russkies don't stand a chance.
Hahahahahaha another delusional muritard here. JLENS failed to protect states it is only good for monitoring plane barren lands aka deserts to fend off surprise attacks . I guess you didn't read how it failed. Good luck sheeple
Ever work with Russians? Probably not. Most of them are very bright. And you want to know why? Because they tell you about it every 30 minutes are so. I still like them and they are smart.
The Russian rocket/missile and software technology in weapons and other things is way ahead of the USA.
The pieco of shit F-35 will have it's software for it's gun finished in 2019. Probably written by Indian H-1Bs. I am not even sure if the software for the plane has been completed. It supposedly can actually fly in good weather, sometimes.
Turn right at the sunken aircraft carrier.
Sincerely, I hope Russia/Iran, are ready and can handle this...China?
hit them with your best shot...Go, Russia!
Russians ae great students of history and like the elephants, they have a very long memory, They remember Bararosa, they remember
https://www.rt.com/news/250981-russian-threat-nato-hodges/
"We're not interested in a fair fight with anyone," General Hodges stated. "We want to have overmatch in all systems. I don't think that we've fallen behind but Russia has closed the gap in certain capabilities. We don't want them to close that gap,” he revealed.
http://russia-insider.com/en/germany_military_politics_ukraine_opinion/2014/11/05/04-31-59pm/not_inch_east_how_west_broke_its
There has recently been a spate of articles in the US that have tried to deny that the US promised Russia in 1990 that NATO would not expand eastward if Russia agreed to German reunification. This article by a US scholar confirms that such a promise was indeed given and that the fact the promise was broken explains much of Russian policy towards the West. This article originally appeared in Foreign Affairs
This is no longer in just their minds..but their heart and blood..provocaions are a fools game..and it will result in a fools end
like the thinkanks in DC. , never admitting to mistake..rejecting chances to work together..playing the bluffing game..This is a serious situation and maybe the last bluff..
Is that the same time frame when the US and Russia agreed to mutually respect the then-current borders of Ukraine in return for them giving up all their nuclear weapons?
People need to stop pretending that there is only one Simon LeGree on the international stage. They are all equally corrupt, equally ambitious, and equally in service to the same evil overlord. Orcs are orcs and all ultimately serve as the raw material for Lord Sauron's grand design.
The analogy may be fair Tara..but Ukraine is Russias back yard..and with the experience of Chenya..they are not about to let the crazies back in whether its Nulands cookies or Isil..that said..I can only add in analogy..a Prom..and a girl asking her mother who should she have last dance with..the mother says..you dance with the one that brung you..even if all are pirates..they would understand that..
peace
Im unsure how fomenting a coup and aiming to install a puppet government that would eject the black sea fleet and host us/nato boats to yet further surround and threaten Russia respected any agreements, nor how the violation of the 'handshake' deal to not expand NATO east, or having a president advised by the author of the Grand Chessboard makes US and Russian action in Ukraine (or Crimea specifically - majority Russian, in Russia's backyard and part of Russia proper for 200 years until a unilateral decision by the Soviet Premier in the late 50s - no vote at all)... Makes Russian and American actions at all 'equivalent.'
Indeed it is obvious that the US once again meddled in the affairs of a country nowhere near its shores precisely to threaten Russia.
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/22/crimeans-keep-saying-no-to-ukraine/
Only a liar or fool could judge Russian actions as anything but defensive - a reaction to yet another theater for us imperial hubris.
America’s Great Lie. Europe’s Great Shame. Russia’s Great Case.
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/americas-great-lie-europes-great-...
They always conveniently ignore the U-S coup in Ukraine and always focus on Russian reactions.
People might get it if Russia stuck some missiles back in Cuba.
Same thing.
Ma'am, that's a good try at muddly, fuddly obfuscation. Please stick to providing support to the Latvian Troll Zinu, previously known as: viedoklis_lv, aka freedom123, aka newsoutlet, aka message.
The expansion of NATO eastwards was in train before Washington/CIA/NATO/EU fired up the revolution in Ukraine to change the pro-Russian regime to thereby install NATO missile batts to further surround Russia.
But Ukraine is where Russia has drawn a line, past which it will not allow NATO to expand.
You keep dispensing the neocon/zionist bullshit like its going to be persuasive.
But it's not persuasive because it is obvious horseshit - not because it will sell if you can just be clever enough with the rhetorical packaging.
Israel =good/invented all our tech/wants peace
Putin/muslims/palestinians =new Hitlers
Tedious fuckwittery.
Insipid hasbaraganda.
Clownish analysis.
You suck.
I hope and pray that the Russians and Putin never forget those Bolsheviks who were non-Russian and non-Christian who murdered 25 million Russian Christians.
The same zoligarch ilk who looted and raped Russia until Putin threw them out. Soros is one of them.
So what did the dumb fuckers in the Pentagon expect to find???
Navy probably expected to find rainbow banners.
Christmas gifts from Russia.
Here's your Gulf Of Tonkin:
It is the first week of August, 1964, and U.S. warships under the command of U.S. Navy Admiral George Stephen Morrison have allegedly come under attack while patrolling Vietnam’s Tonkin Gulf. This event, subsequently dubbed the ‘Tonkin Gulf Incident,’ will result in the immediate passing by the U.S. Congress of the obviously pre-drafted Tonkin Gulf Resolution, which will, in turn, quickly lead to America’s deep immersion into the bloody Vietnam quagmire. Before it is over, well over fifty thousand American bodies – along with literally millions of Southeast Asian bodies – will litter the battlefields of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
Adm Morrison then spoke out about the USS Liberty coverup and his career was essentially over. His son started having police problems for nothing issues. One was a felony charge. In of all places - Miami Beach.
His son then went to Paris and stayed in the Jewish quarter. He then died of a heorin overdose even though he never used heroin. The body was never seen and he was quickly buried before his manager got over from the USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0CWC9aLTl8
Secretary of Defense Forrestal spoke out about something and was committed to Walter Reed military hospital. The same hospital Sen. Joe McCarthy went in for cough and never left. Forrestal was sane and his brother was going to get him out o fthe mental hospital the next morning. The night before, Forrestal "jumped" out of the window to his death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MrYl8ZYHmo
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=96
After getting caught in a blatant lie about their useless attempts/pretenses at fighting/bombing ISIS, and too many people asking the US ever more awkward FAQs, they are simply trying to regain control of The Narrative with these circus acts.
That, plus the fact that all this huffing, puffing and fluffing is great for the MIC.
This is not just extremely dangerous but incredibly stupid from the people who, supposedly unlike Trump, are experienced and mature in international and military matters.
Russia now has a lock on Syria, on the land, sea and air, and they are there at the request of the long-term government of that country.
Since this is to save face for Obama, the US is not cooperating with Russia (and why would Russia trust any US cooperation?), so any US/French action from these carriers has to either go over Russian military or around via Turkey or Israel/Jordan to strike into the eastern part of Syria where Russia is also active for the Assad government.
The chance for serious conflict between major powers is high, with little material benefit for the citizens of the US and France, and the US naval forces have been put into a situation where the balance of local force is against them.
All this so Obama doesn't have to admit that he badly stuffed up in Syria and reach a reasonable accommodation with Russia. So much put at risk for the Obama ego and the Democrats political ambitions.
The more any predator-that-be is considered expert and experienced (by himself or other official "experts"), the more you know they are completely insane quacks.
"Munchkins, George is on line 1."
"Hello, George. Uh, huh, yeah, uh huh, sure...What? Lose an aircraft carrier? George I spent 5 years getting a gay navy. I am not gonna lose 5000 semen, uhh, sailors for nothing! I've got transgenders on board, too!"
George: "$%**(&^&^$%^&!!."
"Awright, if you put it that way. Can we use an Israeli sub?"
I agree with much of what you said but I disagree that this is about Obama saving face. The major powers know what is going on and the american citizenry don't know fuck all so why care about them? There is no "face" left to save as everything has been exposed over the past few months, assuming it was ever hidden from the other governments to begin with.
This is much bigger than Obama. There was/is some sort of geopolitical landscape that MUST be acheived or else the whole plan falls apart. Whether this is about the US fallling into 3rd world status or the leaders of the US losing all power, I don't know. Perhaps it is something completely unrelated. It is so important that the neocons are risking global thermonuclear war over it.
I don't pretend to understand the whys and wherefores of it all but it is clear that Obama isn't in charge nor has he ever been. It certainly isn't about saving face.
99 red balloons floating in the summer sky
Panic bells, it's red alert
There's something here from somewhere else
The war machine, it springs to life
Opens up one eager eye
Focusing it on the sky
As 99 red balloons go by.
99 Decision Street, 99 ministers meet
To worry, worry, super-scurry
Call out the troops now in a hurry
This is what we've waited for
This is it boys, this is war
The president is on the line
As 99 red balloons go by
Nena 99 Red Ballons
Come on Aleric... make it easy for the gang. (-:
Nena - 99 Luftballons
Just wanted to tantalize their mind to read the lyrics.
WHat the fuck is this. You a copycat gatekeeper? Been seeing this more and more lately.
RIPS
A copycat is correct!
Ah Nena, 1980s puberty memories. The good old days of the cold war when life was simple.
Still hot :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCAfKYcSgf4
@ZH FNG
Super ...
Also this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMEPYQHyJm0
Sadly for the German citizenry they get 99 million Islamic invaders. When will they hang Merkel and her ilk in the German govt?
Such a happy sounding song too.