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ISIS Coverup: US Centcom Accused Of Lying To President, Congress, Public About Airstrikes, Ground Fight

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“...there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).”

We’ve said it before, and we’ll say it as many times as it takes for the naive, largely aloof American public to catch on: the quote excerpted above is the smoking gun when it comes to Washington’s ISIS “strategy.” 

Note that no tin foil hats or conspiracy theories are needed. The passage shown above is from a 2012 declassified Pentagon report on the situation in Syria (you can read it in full here). What it says is that US intelligence was well aware of the possibility that Sunni extremists working to destabilize the Assad government might move to establish a proto-state in eastern Syria based around orthodox, ultra-conservative, Sunni Islam. It also says “the supporting powers to the opposition” (i.e. the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey) would be delighted with such an outcome as it would “isolate” Assad on the way to dealing a strategic death blow to Iran’s Shiite crescent (i.e. Tehran’s regional ambitions). That’s the only possible interpretation of the quote shown above and it’s completely consistent with the information contained in a leaked diplomatic cable sent in 2006 by acting Deputy Chief of Mission in Syria William Roebuck which contained the following “advice” on how to go about destabilizing the Assad government: 

PLAY ON SUNNI FEARS OF IRANIAN INFLUENCE:  There are fears in Syria that the Iranians are active in both Shia proselytizing and conversion of, mostly poor, Sunnis.  Though often exaggerated, such fears reflect an element of the Sunni community in Syria that is increasingly upset by and focused on the spread of Iranian influence in their country through activities ranging from mosque construction to business. Both the local Egyptian and Saudi missions here, (as well as prominent Syrian Sunni religious leaders), are giving increasing attention to the matter and we should coordinate more closely with their governments on ways to better publicize and focus regional attention on the issue. 

Importantly, you don’t have to believe alien corpses are stored at Roswell to grasp what’s going on here. That is, the declassified documents and leaked diplomatic cables clearly indicate that the US planned to play on the Sunni/Shiite divide in Syria and subsequently acquiesced to the establishment of a hardline, Salafist dominion because the CIA and The Pentagon knew that such an outcome was the worst nightmare for the government in Damascus and also for Shiite Iran, whose link to Hezbollah would be cut and whose influence in Iraq would be in jeopardy if a Saudi-backed, Sunni militant group could somehow manage to take and hold large swaths of territory. 

That’s it. That’s the whole ISIS story in a nutshell. There’s no need to speculate on whether the creepy guy lurking in the background of the photos John McCain took with Syrian fighters was in fact Bakr al-Baghdadi. There’s no need to suggest that CIA operatives are on the ground assisting ISIS as we speak or that the US is paradropping weapons to Islamic State in Iraq. And there’s no need to ask whether the US government directly trained and armed ISIS once it became clear who the group was and what they intended to do. That’s not to say that some or even all of those storylines aren’t compelling and/or worth pursuing. It’s just to say that you needn’t posit anything that even looks like it might be a conspiracy theory to understand that at the end of the day, the bottom line - the almost irrefutable truth - is that the US and its regional allies were all-in on the “use Sunni extremists to bring about regime change in Syria” strategy from the word “go”, and the direct result of that strategy is ISIS. 

Where things get really interesting is when we start to consider how America’s strategy towards ISIS shifted once it became clear that, i) they are the most effective force when it comes to fostering instability in Syria, and ii) they are a brutal bunch and could very well end up becoming an international terror organization. 

For Russia’s part, Putin, Lavrov, and Maria Zarakhova contend that the US is deliberately pursuing a policy designed not to destroy the group, but merely to contain it. In short, Moscow says the US is effectively attempting to preserve Islamic State’s ability to operate within Syria and Iraq while simultaneously attempting to keep Frankenstein from escaping the lab, so to speak. Iran takes it a step further than that, but we’ll leave that aside for now. 

America’s newfound zeal for attacking ISIS oil trucks seems to validate this assessment. As we noted earlier this week, it isn’t clear why it took so long for the US to bomb Islamic State oil convoys given that crude is the group’s main source of revenue, but one explanation is that the US didn’t want to cut off Islamic State’s funding, because without money, the group couldn’t fight Assad. Now that the Russians have essentially called Washington out, the US has little choice but to go along with bombing runs against illegal crude shipments because Moscow is going to do it anyway. 

Well don’t look now, but The New York Times is out claiming that according to current and former officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity, US Central Command may have been involved in a year long effort to obscure the fact that America’s strategy to combat ISIS simply was not effective (it's actually a follow up to a previous piece which you can read here). Here’s more:

When Islamic State fighters overran a string of Iraqi cities last year, analysts at United States Central Command wrote classified assessments for military intelligence officials and policy makers that documented the humiliating retreat of the Iraqi Army. But before the assessments were final, former intelligence officials said, the analysts’ superiors made significant changes.

 

In the revised documents, the Iraqi Army had not retreated at all. The soldiers had simply “redeployed.”

 

Such changes are at the heart of an expanding internal Pentagon investigation of Centcom, as Central Command is known, where analysts say that supervisors revised conclusions to mask some of the American military’s failures in training Iraqi troops and beating back the Islamic State. The analysts say supervisors were particularly eager to paint a more optimistic picture of America’s role in the conflict than was warranted.

 

In recent weeks, the Pentagon inspector general seized a large trove of emails and documents from military servers as it examines the claims, and has added more investigators to the inquiry.

 

The exact content of those documents is unclear and may not become public because so much of the information is classified. But military officials have told Congress that some of those emails and documents may have been deleted before they had to be turned over to investigators, according to a senior congressional official, who requested anonymity to speak about the ongoing inquiry. Current and former officials have separately made similar claims, on condition of anonymity, to The New York Times. 

 

The insurrection inside Centcom is an important chapter in the story of how the United States responded to the growing threat from the Islamic State. This past summer, a group of Centcom analysts took concerns about their superiors to the inspector general, saying they had evidence that senior officials had changed intelligence assessments to overstate the progress of American airstrikes against the Islamic State, also known as ISIS.

Now why, you might ask, would "senior officials" at Centcom be determined to "overstate the progress of American airstrikes against ISIS"? Were they all scared for their jobs? Were they embarrassed that the group's rise "caught them off guard?" We certainly doubt it, given the bevy of leaked documents which pretty clearly indicate that both The Pentagon and CIA were well aware of what was going on years before the fall of Mosul put the group on the map.

The more likely explanation is that Centcom, probably in conjunction with other intelligence officials, wanted to avoid a scenario whereby The White House and Congress would press for a more aggressive, more conventional military campaign against the group. Not only would that have meant stepped up airstrikes and the possibility that Islamic State's capabilities could be degraded in Syria, but it could also have resulted in a scaling back of the CIA's covert efforts to overthrow Assad. In short, it looks as though the military, in conjunction with the CIA might have been intentionally keeping the President and lawmakers in the dark. As The Times puts it, "at the least, the prospect that senior officials intentionally skewed intelligence conclusions has raised questions about how much Mr. Obama, Congress and the public can believe the military’s assessments." 

For his part, Representative Devin Nunes of California, the Republican chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, is concerned and is now "planning to send a letter to the inspector general on Monday asking if emails and documents relevant to the investigation have indeed been deleted" and if so, Nunes wants to know if investigators might be able to retrieve them from Centcom servers.

Amusingly, the Pentagon is pulling a Janet Yellen by citing the ongoing internal investigation (which conveniently is taking longer than expected) on the way to denying Nunes' committee an opportunity to interview officials, including the two most senior intelligence officers at Centcom, Maj. Gen. Steven Grove and his civilian deputy, Gregory Ryckman.

In September, The Guardian suggested that the tendency for Centcom to provide upbeat assessments of the fight against ISIS may have been influenced by James Clapper, the director of national intelligence. Clapper "is said to talk nearly every day with Grove – 'which is highly, highly unusual', according to a former intelligence official," The Guardian reported, adding that "such a situation could place inherent pressure on a subordinate." The "subordinate" in this situation would be Grove. Here's a bit more: 

But one former intelligence official said Clapper “has to be careful of the Cheney effect, going over to the CIA and how does that affect people” – a reference to pressure felt by CIA analysts before the 2003 Iraq invasion to portray Saddam Hussein as posing a more dire threat than he actually did, following then Vice-President Dick Cheney’s direct interaction with far more junior analysts and officials.

 

“He can be manipulative,” a former senior defense official said of Clapper. For Clapper as a senior US intelligence officer with access to assessments across the 16 US intelligence agencies to query Grove, the Central Command intelligence chief, the ex-official said, “something’s wrong”.

 

Clapper’s calls, knowledgeable sources speaking on condition of anonymity said, placed Grove in a difficult bureaucratic position: between the nominal leader of the entire US intelligence apparatus and his lower-level analysts, several of whom consider the year-long war against Isis to be in dire straits.

So you decide. Is this the administration pressuring Centcom into telling Obama what he wants to hear, or is this Centcom deliberately obscuring the situation on the ground in order to pursue an agenda being pushed by intelligence officials hell bent on bringing about regime change in Syria even it means keeping ISIS operational? 

Hopefully, we'll get something in the way of answers over the next six or so months, but we're not holding our breath.

 

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Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:34 | 6824664 Looney
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You didn’t falsify that report. ;-)

Looney

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:46 | 6824697 FireBrander
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Q: Does Trump want a Muslim registry?

A: Who cares; the NSA already has one...on us all.

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:01 | 6824730 FireBrander
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> The USA does NOT strike known "ISIS Stronghold" Raqqa. Nor do they strike oil caravans that are a source of ISIS funding.

> Russia asks for a list of the "Moderate Groups" (and their locations) the USA is backing (in the fight against ISIS) to avoid blowing up the "Good Guys".

> USA refuses..Somewhat understandable.

> Russia begins leveling Raqqa and destroying the oil to cash machine of ISIS.

> The USA COMPLAINS! Kerry rushes off to the UN calling for a "Cease Fire".

I don't know about you, but I have to conclude that ISIS IS BACKED BY THE USA!

Notice how Obama said "ISIS must be destroyed"...then change the narrative to "ISIS is contained"...so the goal is not "Destruction"...it is "containment"...CONTAIN THEM IN SYRIA to facilitate the USA's DESIRE for an "Assad Regime Change"!

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:04 | 6824746 johngaltfla
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I call bullshit. VJ and Brennan ordered the bull crap strike reports so as to provide the sheeple with some stranger perverse false sense of security.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:14 | 6824780 ebworthen
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Do you trust your mechanic?  The more bombs, flights, missions - the more munitions, parts, and money they make.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:45 | 6824891 Deathrips
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Today is the 52nd anniversary of the JFK assasination.

 

This speech titled "The President and the Press". Its funny John must be a psychic because, what he warned about is what we have today.

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces

 

RIPS

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:51 | 6824914 manofthenorth
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Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers 2.0

Some shit just will not change until blood is shed I suppose.

These are the "good 'ol days"

Give thanks you pirates.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:52 | 6824917 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Yeah, it looks like the cia is about ready to throw the pentagram under the bus... again... You could tell the cia was getting desperate when one of the former spook directors blamed Snowden for the Paris attacks the other day.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:03 | 6824942 Paveway IV
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The CIA is sort of a parallel Deep-State lackey. They are not the Deep State, they just take orders like everyone else. When they won't obey, we create another parallel intel agency: the Defense Intelligence Agency to provide congress and the president the suitable lies. If not them, then they'll make up another 'intelligence agency' for their spew.

Every CENTCOM commander and general officer on their staff for the last three decades should be stripped of rank and court-martialed for treason. After they serve life in a military prison for that, we should ship their tratiorous corpses to the Hague to be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Their names should be erased from history, and their remains should be unceremoniously dumped in the desert in Israel, where they can rest eternally with the masters they served. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:05 | 6824953 Billy the Poet
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In short, it looks as though the military, in conjunction with the CIA might have been intentionally keeping the President and lawmakers in the dark.

 

This is just like George Tenet throwing himself on his sword over WMD to protect the Bush administration. Yeah, Bush and Obama are puppets but they knew what they were being ask to do in both Iraq and Syria an they did it.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:21 | 6824991 Tao 4 the Show
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I once heard Tenet speak after he was out of the CIA. Amazing. I never before or since heard someone give such an impassioned speech for nearly an hour and say absolutely nothing. Really hilarious. I think the passion came from all the things he wanted to say that were redacted by his forever bosses.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:49 | 6825062 macholatte
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False Flag

Blaming the MIC (but not naming any individual) for lying to Barry is the only way to save Barry’s ass. It’s the “culture” of lying at the top. The press can’t blame itself and can’t blame anyone in the White House because that would be blaming the Center for American Progress for creating the mess and being the cess pool that it is. Claiming that Barry is clueless, which he is NOT, because he was misled by the CIA is the answer.  Barry is a victim. Saving Barry’s ass is what this is all about. The Country be damned.

"at the least, the prospect that senior officials intentionally skewed intelligence conclusions has raised questions about how much Mr. Obama, Congress and the public can believe the military’s assessments."

What are the names?  Give me the names!!

Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.

John F. Kennedy

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:51 | 6825067 Handful of Dust
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US scraps its $500million programme to train 'moderate' Syrian rebels after producing fewer than 80 soldiers, most of whom were either shot or ran away

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3266509/US-scraps-500million-pro...

 

Not one person was demoted after this. It bee becuz wee exceptional!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:30 | 6825181 Urban Roman
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It's the Dulles bro's brains in pickle jars calling the shots. They've been kept alive with battery acid and ground-up fetus parts from Planned Parenthood all these years. They keep 'em right next to the freezer with bin Laden in the basement at the CIA... ... ... ...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:11 | 6825308 macholatte
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LOL

+5

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:33 | 6825365 LowerSlowerDela...
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"US Centcom Accused Of Lying To President, Congress, Public..."

Did they say "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor?"  How about "your premiums will go DOWN $2500/year," when they went up by a LOT more than that?  Those kind of outright lies?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:59 | 6825436 macholatte
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If you like your Jihadi you can keep your Jihidi.

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:04 | 6825448 Joe Davola
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2012 - who was Sec. of State then, and what emails from then have fallen in the bit bucket

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:45 | 6826240 gladius17
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"Note that no tin foil hats or conspiracy theories are needed."

Right. That's the entire purpose of this relevation: to distract attention away from the fact that CIA et al have been purposely arming and training ISIS aka the Syrian rebels, while pretending to attack them. The truth is coming out so they throw out this red herring. A limited hangout.

"Wait citizens, not so fast in believing all those whack crazy conspiracy theories! It turns out to be just yet another case of government incompetence! It's an isolated problem and we assure you the persons responsible will be punished. Obama is just as mad as you when he heard it on the news. Now after you're done with your obligatory 15 minutes of outrage and indignation, get back on that fucking hampster wheel. Uncle Sam wants dat money."

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 05:03 | 6826706 jeff montanye
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like trump's limited hangout on 9-11: bush and cheney and rumsfeld, et. al. knew an attack was probably coming and let it happen so they could rally public support to fight saddam and the global terrorist network. unstated but implied: kind of like fdr and pearl harbor: you know, for the greater good.

in some ways not that different morally from the real 9-11, largely or entirely an inside job of the mossad, the cia, probably organized crime (starting to sound like our recent anniversary) and larry silverstein (but i repeat myself). however viewed through the "peoples'" eyes, much less icky and damning (i.e. not the kind of thing that would actually get the u.s.-based perps in a courtroom). 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:39 | 6825210 NoDebt
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If Obama really wanted to know what was going on there are multiple ways he could have triangluated in on the truth.  He never pursued them.  He was fed what he wanted to hear and since it lined up with his deluded version of reality he saw no reason to look further into the matter.  Military/CIA needed to lie, Obama wanted to be lied to.  A match made in hell.

Obama has no problem ignoring or disagreeing with the military/intel communities on any number of issues (most recently the importation of refugees from this same crisis), but on the matter of the war that caused it... nothing.  Just goes along with the company line.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:01 | 6825442 Oldwood
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Intelligence reports are created for the same reason economic reports and analysis are, for PUBLIC consumption, or simply to give cover...plausible deniability. "He was lied to"...."how could he have known?", while everyone here knows what up and has known since virtually the beginning.

It is absolute bullshit to think Obama didn't know what was going on unless he is far dumber than even we give him credit.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:24 | 6825700 xavi1951
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I would venture to guess that he is dumber than we give him credit for.

 

The buck stops somewhere else.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:47 | 6826246 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"Is this the administration pressuring Centcom into telling Obama what he wants to hear, or is this Centcom deliberately obscuring the situation on the ground in order to pursue an agenda being pushed by intelligence officials hell bent on bringing about regime change in Syria even it means keeping ISIS operational?"~

Obama INTENTIONALLY misses 75% of his Intelligence briefings. He's already given the CIA and the Pentagon carte blanche. He DOESN'T care about all that shit. He's busy "fundamentally changing" America. That's all he cares about is taking down his perception of "white Amerika". All else, especially if it coincides with plan A, is just fine.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 01:24 | 6826496 Four chan
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hes either golfing or fomenting black treason against america. 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 04:21 | 6826683 Anonymous User
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I guess his training for this, for when those suthern republicans will get tired of being stepped on:

goo.gl/bNS18Z

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 05:08 | 6826708 jeff montanye
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if by black you mean negro or african especially, you are wrong, imo.  obama's treason is of the rainbow variety and, by its nature, draws an overabundance of the ashcannazis.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:05 | 6825985 Calmyourself
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All about saving bamsters ass exactlly... He never gave orders to destroy Daesh and if he had they were countermanded minutes after being given by one of his lackeys most likely jarrett.   The fix is in and the pentagram is being thown under the bus, big deal he fired every General worth a shit anyway...  He is going to gut that place before he leaves office and leave the deep state of his choosing in control..

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 05:10 | 6826709 jeff montanye
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he does not control the deep state.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 01:52 | 6826535 conscious being
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Macolatte - "What are the names? Give me the names!!"

Some names are in the article - Centcom General Stephen Grove, his civillian deputy(?) Gregory Ryckman, James Clapper, the director of national intelligence.

Funny how a general has a civillian deputy these days. Is this like the political oficer in the old USSR?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:41 | 6825039 YHC-FTSE
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+1000 That last paragraph is worthy of applause.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:00 | 6825440 dogfish
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Well said Paveway.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:08 | 6825990 palmereldritch
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Here is some helpful and required reading for any potential US President before he or she resides in the Oval Office:

http://bilderberg.org/st/index.htm

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:27 | 6826046 cornflakesdisease
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Just remember, the CIA was originally located in New York; to be close to the folks they work for on wall St.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:01 | 6824946 Demdere
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I agree, the CIA and entire intelligence world is taking some hits on this.  In days of yore, govs would have fallen.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/14/in-reality-everything-is-c...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:36 | 6825033 Tao 4 the Show
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This is somewhat interesting:

"at the least, the prospect that senior officials intentionally skewed intelligence conclusions has raised questions about how much Mr. Obama, Congress and the public can believe the military’s assessments."

It is clearly damage control, and if the NYT is pumping out damage control, it means the guys behind the scenes feel a need for it. Net-net, this is one of those rare moments when we get a fairly clear status report.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:25 | 6825159 trader1
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how do you know this is not softening you up for the truth?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:30 | 6826028 FixItAgainTony
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For example, that the final version MUST be that a low ranking, reserve military intelligence officer falsified a critical report or that his Excel spreadsheet bombed the same village 500 times.  Much like spinning Abu Ghraib's torture operations on 2 hapless, shithead E4s and demoting the facility CO or Iran/Contra on gofer Ollie North.  Standard op is to assemble a narrative with adequate plausible deniability piecemeal, knowing that the authorities will never seek a timely accounting for the record due to a high likelihood of revealing the truth of extralegal and misaligned agendas before all can be blamed on (always publicly acceptable) low level incompetence.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 06:19 | 6826740 Nassim
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Here is the proof that the Americans and their friends - Ukraine and Qatar - are delivering high-powered air defence systems to ISIS

Qatar and Ukraine come to deliver Pechora-2D to ISIS

http://www.voltairenet.org/article189366.html

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:15 | 6824964 Billy the Poet
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This speech titled "The President and the Press". Its funny John must be a psychic because, what he warned about is what we have today.

 

In this speech JFK is not revealing that secret societies run America as is popularly believed. A review of the entire speech rather than just a few paragraphs makes this clear. Kennedy referred to the Soviet block as a conspiracy which could only be combated if the US media were more compliant in reporting according to US government dictates. He repeatedly says that he's talking about the "Cold War," which was a political, diplomatic and proxy battle between the US and Russia.

 

The speech begins with an amusing anecdote about Karl Marx:

 

"If only this capitalistic New York newspaper had treated him more kindly; if only Marx had remained a foreign correspondent, history might have been different. And I hope all publishers will bear this lesson in mind the next time they receive a poverty-stricken appeal for a small increase in the expense account from an obscure newspaper man."

 

At the time the US was involved in the Cold War with Russia. Russia was seen as being ahead in the space race and military development. Part of the reason was that while US rockets exploding on the launch pad were freely reported Russian failures were not and so they looked to be superior. Kennedy specifically mentions the Cold War in the text of the speech.

 

"Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired...

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.  It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match."

 

JFK then asks the press to censor its reports on US government activities. He is calling for more secrecy, not less .

 

But I do ask every publisher, every editor, and every newsman in the nation to reexamine his own standards, and to recognize the nature of our country's peril. In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort based largely on self-discipline, to prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy. In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the First Amendment must yield to the public's need for national security...

For the facts of the matter are that this nation's foes have openly boasted of acquiring through our newspapers information they would otherwise hire agents to acquire through theft, bribery or espionage; that details of this nation's covert preparations to counter the enemy's covert operations have been available to every newspaper reader, friend and foe alike; that the size, the strength, the location and the nature of our forces and weapons, and our plans and strategy for their use, have all been pinpointed in the press and other news media to a degree sufficient to satisfy any foreign power; and that, in at least in one case, the publication of details concerning a secret mechanism whereby satellites were followed required its alteration at the expense of considerable time and money....

Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: "Is it news?" All I suggest is that you add the question: "Is it in the interest of the national security?" And I hope that every group in America--unions and businessmen and public officials at every level-- will ask the same question of their endeavors, and subject their actions to the same exacting tests...

Perhaps there will be no recommendations. Perhaps there is no answer to the dilemma faced by a free and open society in a cold and secret war. In times of peace, any discussion of this subject, and any action that results, are both painful and without precedent. But this is a time of peace and peril which knows no precedent in history."

 

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Research-Aids/JFK-Speeches/American-N...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:36 | 6825015 Deathrips
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+100

Thanks for the elaboration Billy.

Yes! They all work for the printing press.

Although I havent looked much into Kennedy, he did get nailgunned. Was it Exectuve order 11110 on silver, mob debt, real patriot killed off a marxist?

Cheers.

 

RIPS

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:06 | 6825654 Billy the Poet
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You're welcome. I knew you'd be open to an expanded examination of the contents of that speech.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 05:30 | 6826718 jeff montanye
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truly useful.

that speech was a couple weeks after the bay of pigs in april of '61.  if he didn't subsequently change his take on these topics i wonder why it was felt he needed assassinating. 

supposedly he "naively" believed the diem brothers didn't need assassinating either, that busy november in '63. 

obama, still naive after all these years.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 02:47 | 6826603 Otrader
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He did go up vs the FED and I also think the other motive was that Kennedy opposed Israel's (i.e. the Zionist Mafia's) plans to develop nuclear weapons at its (their) Dimona facility in the Negev Desert. Naturally, an official version of events was concocted, denying any Israeli involvement, and claiming that Oswald, the patsy, was a "lone assassin".

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 05:33 | 6826721 jeff montanye
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listening to george h w bush choke laugh while he congratulates gerald ford's corpse for helping in the plot is instructive, imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft3eGWZd7LE

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:13 | 6825107 Bay of Pigs
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@RIPS

Here is the entire speech. Given on April 27th, 1961, ten days after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:30 | 6825521 Bob
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Very different in emphasis from the cleverly edited version linked above.  Kennedy is shown as a secrecy freak and, much like our gub today wrt to the WOT, expected the Press to protect "National Security" in the good ol' Cold War. 

Mother fucker is just as slick as Obama. 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 05:36 | 6826723 jeff montanye
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well he did have that problem in dallas so perhaps just a hair less slick (or more, shall we say, more naive).

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:47 | 6824903 sam i am
Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:17 | 6824798 SoilMyselfRotten
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Yep FB and i'm a'guessin coming here doesn't help one stay under the radar

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 02:26 | 6826582 conscious being
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Be afraid troll. Be very afraid. Then run away and don't let the door hit your soiled ass on the way out. Thanks.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:19 | 6824803 El Oregonian
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LETS SEE, HOW DO DICTATORS TIGHTEN THEIR GRIP? OH THAT'S RIGHT, THEY DO IT LIKE GERMANY DID IN THE 1930's, THEIR PATSIES THE "BROWN SHIRTS", AFTER THEY ACCOMPLISHED REMOVING OF THE OLD GUARD, ESTABLISHED HIS S.S. AND PROMPTLY REMOVED ALL REMANENCE OF THE FORMER TRADITIONS.

SOUND FAMILIAR?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:35 | 6825204 Rodders75
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Well this kind of blows the "Paris false flag" theory out of the water. The attacks have brought France closer to Russia, strengthened Assad and helping expose US complicity in the rise of ISIS. Cui bono?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:30 | 6825538 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Who benefits? Not johadis aiming to build a state in Syraq.

More booga booga for the mic, excuse for nato invasion to topple assad on the pretext of fighting isis, limiting russian power.

Which i would think is obvious post iraq and libya.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 01:55 | 6826539 Golden Showers
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Um, for one thing; please shut the fuck up. Your cap-locks hurt my eyes. Second and more important, please go back and examine the historical facts. Your cap-locked comments are the revisionist crap that wants to promptly remove former traditions.

If I were you I'd sit very still and consider that it might be possible that you are ignorant and stupid. That you are reactionary. Let this sink in.

Dictators use "all Caps". So shut the fuck up.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 01:57 | 6826543 Golden Showers
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P.S. YOUR MOTHER

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 01:59 | 6826546 Golden Showers
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P.P.S. SOUND FAMILIAR?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:35 | 6824856 FireBrander
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If Iran and/or Russia are not handling the "banking" for the oil-to-cash for ISIS, then who is?

That has got to be big money and it can't possible be done with truck loads of literal paper money...so who is processing the payments?

Russia says it knows...they won't say exactly, but "a G20 member" is among the guilty...wonder who that is...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 20:19 | 6825851 29.5
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Paveway had a good write up in a previous article here. Boils down to kurds and turks. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:23 | 6825000 Rubicon727
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No matter the legitimacy of this article, or any other revealing the US's military/financial hegemony in the Middle East, the real question is "WHY?" Why are these slight-of-hand actions being made by the US military? What do they care if Assad is taken out and causing further pressure on Iran? Why?

Is this part of the Wolfowitz Doctrine calling for US world hegemony? Is it more financially motivated- re-enforced by the Saudi's losing a few billions here, or there? Is it based on America's powerful military/armament corporations? Or is it all based on the split between the Muslim religions: Saudi's Sunni vs Iran's Shiite beliefs?

Who can answer the question of: "Why?"

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:32 | 6825149 maxwellsdemon
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It is a diabolical plan to pit the West against the ME in order to benefit Israel by allowing it to openly kill and drive off the remaining Palestinians from their land.  Organizing false flag attacks such as the 1993 WTC bombing,  911, the London subway bombing, Paris attacks,...etc.  is to scare the sheeple in the West against the Muslims and in doing so give a pass to Israel's ethnic cleansing operations.

The ultimate goal (20 to 30 years from now) once Israel controls all countries in the region and after driving off Palestinians, will be for Israel to become and open nuclear power.   The Rothschild's reason for funding the formation of a Jewish only fortress in the ME will be visible since the Mossad will direct the intelligence agency in eash of the central bank run countries such as the US, England, France....etc.

The Rothschilds and their banker friends have been patiently preparing for each stage of this operation since the early 19th century, when they gained control of the English debt, making England their debtor forever.  The next stage was to create a Rotshchild/Jewish fortress in the ME, justifying the takeover of Palestine using religious edicts from Russian Ashkanazi rabbis.  They took over the US in 1913 once the privately owned US central bank was formed thus allowing the funding of the planned war against Germany and Russia; this war was started by arranging the assasination of the Arch Duke of Austia Hungary by a Serbian terrorist group funded by London's bankers and directed by MI6, leading to war between Russia and Germany which weakened them both as planned.  Russia fell first to the Rothschild's funded communists and Germany nearly fell to a communist group as well, but the German general staff held together.  Eventualy Germany too was defeated and absorbed by the Rothschilds by 1945

The Sunni patsies such as the Saudis, and Gulf kingdoms, ..etc.  will be fragmented and absorbed too by the Rothschilds once their usefulness is over.    The Saudis willfully participating in their own destruction when the went along with the Rothschild plan to pressure Russia into dropping Assad by lowering the oil price is an exampe of how patient and tenacious the Rothschild group is and how disorganized, misinformed, and easily bribed their adversaries have been.  However, the Russians and Chinese are fully aware of who their real foe is.  The future will be interesting to say the least.   If just 5% of the Western sheeple wake up, that will certainly help tip things in the right direction.  Zerohedge is helping this educational process accelerate in the West.

What needs to replace the 'debt as money' trap that the Rotshchilds have enslaved us with is a governmnet issued currency system as described by Ellen Brown in her book "Web of Debt".  The US reserve should be nationalized immediately and forced to issue 100 year loans at zero percent interest for infrastructure improvements to each of the 50 states; 100 years because the useful life of a road or bridge approximates that time span. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:37 | 6825213 Rodders75
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I'll have what he's having 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:38 | 6825215 Bay of Pigs
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Great post. End the FED.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:30 | 6825354 Aaronson.Jones....
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Agreed, great post. This is why Zerohedge will eventually be shut down; too much truthiness. Some mentally unstable FBI lured "bomber" will say he decided on it after reading something on ZH & hey presto, no more ZH.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 20:25 | 6825862 YHC-FTSE
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+1 FYI, there is a serious zionist trolling effort under way - one I've personally seen to blame everything on the Russians, including Islamic terrorism, anti-semitism, and anti-US/Israel sentiments.

It's pathetic really, but they usually quote a book called "Disinformation" written by Ion Pacepa. Ironic because it is itself a work of disinformation and outright lies easily countered with facts about Israel. Watch out for these disgusting bastards who link to "RadioFreeEurope/Radio Liberty" State Dept propaganda website

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:40 | 6825581 NoMoJackboots
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Very good question. Probably impossible to answer. Both the US and Israel likely prefer to see a rough balance of power and conflict between Sunni and Shia Muslims. The bankers/criminal organizations benefit financially. Lastly, the elite likely see it as helpful as a means of increasing control via goverments to reduce the power and freedoms of citizens, and easing the way for a new world order.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:26 | 6825162 Vatican_cameo
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Contain them in Syria until they are needed to overthrow or cause wanton destruction of another CIA target regime.  The last thing the US Government needs is to start over with another new group.  They're running out of acronyms.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:55 | 6825268 Babaloo
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Raqqa has a quarter million people, and there used to be way more than that.  

 

What kind of idiot advocates for "striking Raqqa" given the huge number of innocents there?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:08 | 6825463 HowdyDoody
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The sort that would say '500,000 dead Iraqis is a price worth paying' to remove Saddam Hussein?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 02:40 | 6826596 Otrader
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A lot of Israel first turds here tonight. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:16 | 6825484 NoTTD
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My kind.

 

Death to Islam.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:18 | 6825491 NoMoJackboots
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What part of "nuke them back to the stone age" do you fail to comprehend?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:27 | 6826048 Calmyourself
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"What kind of idiot advocates for "striking Raqqa" given the huge number of innocents there?"

Dresden, Tokyo, London, Leningrad, Berlin, Constantinople, Troy, Rome, crack a book tiger.  Flee or die is the way of war.  In the case of Muslims; flee while leaving the women and children behind..

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 01:10 | 6826483 logically possible
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Those muslim men weren't fleeing, didn't you see the big Trojan horse they were standing under?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 09:57 | 6827080 FireBrander
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People die in wars...if you aren't willing to unitentionally kill "innocents" then DON'T START A FUCKING WAR!

Raqqa is a shit stain in the middle of the desert. Cut the  power, cut the water, cut all supplies by surrounding the SMALL city...drop leaflets informing women and children they won't be harmed if they sneak out..then just sit back and wait...no water, no power, no food...they won't resist for long.

Proven to work for 1000's of years.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:28 | 6825349 Raymond_K._Hessel
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"Foreign meddling in Syria began several years before the Syrian revolt erupted. Wikieaks released leaked US State Department cables from 2006 revealing U.S. plans to overthrow the Syrian government through instigating civil strife, and receiving these very orders straight from Tel Aviv. The leaks reveal the United State’s partnership with nations like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and even Egypt to use sectarianism to divide Syria through the Sunni and Shiite divide to destabilize the nation to weaken Iran and Hezbolla. Israel is also revealed to attempt to use this crisis to expand it’s occupation of the Golan Heights for additional oil exploration, according to Wikileaks editor Julian Assange.

According to major media outlets like the BBC and the Associated Press, the demonstrations that supposedly swept Syria were comprised of only hundreds of people, but additional Wikileaks cables reveal CIA involvement on the ground in Syria to instigate these very demonstrations as early as March 2011."

http://www.mintpressnews.com/migrant-crisis-syria-war-fueled-by-competin...

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http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/10/10/us-russia-syria-problem-fak...
http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...
http://russia-insider.com/en/war-terror-joke-you-see-isis-guys-eating-mc...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:50 | 6825777 Johnny Horscaulk
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"The great danger of faking your ability to do something in the public square is that someone with an actual desire to the job you are pretending to do might come along and show you up.

This is what has just happened to the US in Syria with the entrance of Russia into the fight against ISIL.

And as is generally the case with posers caught with their pants down, the US policy elites are not happy about it.

You see, the US strategic goal in Syria is not as your faithful mainstream media servants (led by that redoubtable channeler of Neo-Con smokescreens at the NYT Michael Gordon) might have you believe to save the Syrian people from the ravages of the long-standing Assad dictatorship, but rather to heighten the level of internecine conflict in that country to the point where it will not be able to serve as a bulwark against Israeli regional hegemony for at least another generation.

How do we know? Because important protagonists in the Israelo-American policy planning elite have advertised the fact with a surprising degree of clarity in documents and public statements issued over the last several decades.

The key here is learning to listen to what our cultural training has not prepared us to hear.

In 1982, as the Likud Party (which is to say, the institutional incarnation of the Revisionist Zionist belief, first articulated by Jabotinsky in the ”Iron Wall” that the only way to deal with “the Arabs” in and around Israel was through unrelenting force and the inducement of cultural fragmentation) was consolidating its hold on the foreign policy establishment of Israel, a journalist named Oded Yinon, who had formerly worked at the Israeli Foreign Ministry, published an article in which he outlined the strategic approach his country needed to take in the coming years.

What follows are some excerpts from Israel Shahak’s English translation of that text:

“Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian Peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target. Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon….”

“Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi’ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north.”

“If Egypt falls apart, countries like Libya, Sudan, or even the more distant states will not continue to exist in their present form and will join the downfall and dissolution of Egypt.

“There is no chance that Jordan will continue to exist in its present structure for a long time, and Israel’s policy, both in war and in peace, ought to be directed at the liquidation of Jordan under the present regime and the transfer of power to the Palestinian majority.”

Yinon’s vision reappeared in the now infamous “Clean Break” document from 1996, authored by a consortium of US and Israeli “strategic thinkers” that included Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and David and Meyrav Wurmser, which was meant to serve as a foreign policy blueprint for the first administration of Benjamin Netanyahu.

The text is nothing if not obsessive regarding the need to seriously debilitate Syria’s ability to act in any way is a pole of regional influence in the in the area .

“Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq – an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right – as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions.”

“Most important, it is understandable that Israel has an interest supporting diplomatically, militarily and operationally Turkey’s and Jordan’s actions against Syria, such as securing tribal alliances with Arab tribes that cross into Syrian territory and are hostile to the Syrian ruling elite.”

And as Dan Sanchez has recently shown, David Wurmser went into even greater detail about the need to balkanize Israel’s northeastern neighbor in articles published in approximately the same time period, talking quite openly in one essay about “expediting the chaotic collapse“ of Baathist Syria.

Then there is Wesley Clark’s famous interview, given in 2007, in which he revealed the true strategic aims of those running US foreign policy in the wake of the September 11th attacks. In it, he tells of a conversation he had at that time with a Pentagon official who admitted that the real plan was “to attack and destroy the governments in seven countries in five years”.

Those countries, according to Clark, were: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iraq. In the same speech, he explicitly ties the hatching of the plan to Richard Perle, head of the cadre of people who wrote in the “Clean Break” document of the paramount importance of putting Israel in position to “shape its strategic environment”.

On September 5th, 2013, Alon Pinkas, the former Israeli Consul General in New York and well-connected member of Tel Aviv’s conservative policy elite described the Syrian conflict in the following terms in the New York Times:

“This is a playoff situation in which you need both teams to lose, but at least you don’t want one to win – we’ll settle for a tie,….Let them both bleed, hemorrhage to death: that’s the strategic thinking here. As long as this lingers, there’s no real threat from Syria.”

I don’t think it can get much clearer than that. The US-Israeli plan in Syria has never been about helping anyone in that country, but rather insuring its effective dismemberment so as to further the perceived “strategic interests” of the Jewish state.

As Tomás Alcoverro, the longtime Mideast correspondent of Barcelona’s La Vanguardia newspaper wrote on 9 October 2015, in reference to the combined Russian and Syrian government attacks carried out during the previous week: “If this joint offensive is successful, the US plan for continuing the war of attrition until both sides are exhausted will lie in ruins”.

Yes, the US and Israelis, have been “faking it” in Syria for a good long time now. And Putin has come along and called their bluff.

And they are not happy about it. Which is why the ongoing campaign of demonization against the Russian leader is being ratcheted up – if that’s possible – to still higher levels of intelligence-insulting hyperbole."

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/

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http://america-hijacked.com/2012/02/12/israel-lobby-pushes-for-us-action...

http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...

http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future

Netanyahu ordered to hasten Messiah's coming:

http://youtu.be/rFr4C2BPLeM

3 things jews must do to prepare the way for the messiah (as a muslim scholar quickly summarizes it):

http://youtu.be/NDqL6AJP9v8

Actually take the time to ev n quickly read/view these and experience Enlightenment.

Isnt Zio/Jooish control of the us .gov absolutely open and obvious?
http://youtu.be/UntixeRiEK8

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:28 | 6826215 Freddie
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Did Kerry actually ask for a cease fire?  Total proof the USSA are total liars and are totally backing ISIS.

They did the same thing in the Ukraine.  As soon as DPR (Donestsk) and LPR (Lughansk) got the hapless Ukrianian Army (most did not want to be there or cannon fodder) - the USA and Kiev dual shitizens begged for a cease fire.   Minsk 1 and Minsk 2.

They did it twice after two "cauldrons: or encirclements of the Ukie Army.

DPR PM Alexander Zakarchenko said - there will be no Minsk 3.  next time they will not stop.

The USSA are f**king liars and incompetent, evil, genocidal creeps.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 02:38 | 6826593 Otrader
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We didn't strike down the poppy fields and we are not striking down the oil trade with ISIS.  It's called black budget funding.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:23 | 6824817 junction
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Since Obama became president, he has followed the same policy: purge the U.S. military of any command officers who will not blindly follow Obama's NWO policy.  Officers who refused to allow nuclear missiles to be put in the ready state for launching - fired or indicted for bogus reasons.  Officers who questioned the stand down during the Benghazi attack, forced to retire.  The Navy captain of the ship allegedly carrying Osama's dead body still has his job but only after recommending that many in the crew be courtmartialed for not following the code of silence. 

Complicit with Obama is the news media of the United States and the gutless reporters who just repeat administration lies.  Andrew Breitbart, Michael Hastings, writer Philip Marshall (expert on the Pinal County "boneyard" that provided the 9/11 drone jets) and Gary Webb all show what happens if a reporter crosses the line.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:42 | 6824885 FireBrander
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"Complicit"

Why did you name everyone but...but....the RUPUBLICAN CONGRESS?

THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS IS THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY...they can DEFUND the President for starters...and they can NUKE HIM if necessary via IMPEACHMENT!

So what IS the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS DOING? Fully funding EVERYTHING Obama wants (Including ObamaCare) with ZERO resistance and not a FUCKING HINT even in the back rooms of IMPEACHMENT!

Obama's doing this, Obama's doing that...TOTAL FUCKING HORSESHIT...Obama is doing what his "advisors" and "lobbyists" are TELLING HIM TO DO....AFTER they've "SET STRAIGHT" the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS to FUND WHAT THEY WANT DONE!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:19 | 6825138 Bay of Pigs
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The GOP is a pile of shit, and has been for decades. The last real fiscal conservatives they ever had were back in the 1950's (aside from Ron Paul).

Wish I was joking on that observation but I'm not.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:41 | 6825391 LawsofPhysics
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Are you suggesting that the democratic congress in 2001 was any different?

RED=BLUE you stupid fuck.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 10:02 | 6827093 FireBrander
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No Fucknuts, Dems are no better...the shithead poster was all over Obama; Obama is pretty much POWERLESS without the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS' APPROVAL!

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:15 | 6825478 NoMoJackboots
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You are a friggin moron.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:10 | 6824955 Perimetr
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Another possibility:

This report is a psy-op to direct attention away from the fact that the ISIS is a US asset and has been created, funded, and directed by Langley.

See what Putin says about ISIS: it has been funded by states in the G20. Guess which ones?

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=Putin+speech+ISIS+funding&ei=UTF-8...

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=Putin+speech+ISIS+funding&ei=UTF-8...

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:43 | 6825049 HowdyDoody
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Here's some. Russia warns Turkey and Qatar with Saudi Arabia a third.

The son of Erdogan has been named as the owner of the Turkish company running the oil flow through Turkey.

"In Qatar and Saudi Arabia, there are those who organize and sponsor terrorist attacks - they are headquartered there. There are well-known people there, who control terrorist activities in Syria and Iraq"

http://www.pravdareport.com/russia/politics/19-11-2015/132648-russia_qat...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:34 | 6826225 Freddie
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Erdogan's son is running that oil.  Are they using any ship tankers?  The Russians should sink them. 

Qatar and Saudi Arabia need to get hit by the Russians as well.

Saudis are getting their asses kicked in Yemen and the Saudis engage in genocide there.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:21 | 6825146 doctor10
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The White House must all be running around in brown shorts. They're trying to pre-empt the pending Congressional Hearings by blaming it all on the military. As liberals always do when their foreign policy turns to shit.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:56 | 6825272 Whodathunkit
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Ryckman >>> Reichmann

1000 year Reich

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:01 | 6825281 Noplebian
Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:34 | 6825733 xavi1951
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You got downed by a Musi (poison M&M) sympathizer.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:59 | 6825640 chubbar
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Yeah, nice fucking try! This is an obvious effort to cover for the administration supporting ISIS. The reason the military didn't have an effective effort against ISIS is because they were fucking ordered to stand down OR they were deliberately misled on targeting data, etc. 

I wouldn't trust any part of our gov't if they said water was wet. What a bunch of fucking assholes. Isn't there someone in that group with a set of balls that will tell the american people the truth????

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 20:11 | 6825830 Luc X. Ifer
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Scapegoating, scape goats, suckers, downfall boys etc ... somebody has to take it to save the chief now that the chief was exposed as actually working hard at supporting the bad guys ...

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 05:46 | 6826731 Klemens
Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:42 | 6824665 JustObserving
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If Centcom ever tells the truth, it is by mistake.

ISIS was founded and funded by US and its allies and it continues to this day:

ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html

USA, Turkey and Israel Act As Air Force for ISIS

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/08/usa-turkey-and-israel-act-as-air-...

The US arming of ISIS

While claiming to be committed to a war against ISIS, Washington and its regional allies have time and again proven themselves to be its principal sources of strength.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/03/pers-j03.html

Poll shows 81 percent of Syrians believe US created ISIS

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-19/81-syrians-believe-us-blame-isi...

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/09/18/isis-s18.html

Obama's fake war against ISIS:

1 yr, 6,700 airstrikes & $4bn after Obama vowed to ‘destroy’ ISIS, jihadists still on offensive

http://investmentwatchblog.com/1yr-6700-airstrikes-4bn-after-obama-vowed...

Putin Outed ISIS’s G20 Financiers: But Not a Single Western Media Outlet Has Reported It

http://www.4thmedia.org/2015/11/putin-outed-isiss-g20-financiers-but-not...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:15 | 6824756 Kirk2NCC1701
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Just fire bomb McDill AFB in Tampa, and be done with them.

What keeps Florida going: Disney, Drugs, DoD and the Dying.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:48 | 6824901 Deathrips
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US Created?

 

You calling the mossad a liar?

ISIS is their code name.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuRot1mvC9k

 

Listen.

So if the presidents going to destroy isis, with or without we the poeples consent, when does he stop giving handouts to israel in dollars and hand out an asswhippin?

 

RIPS

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:21 | 6824992 Johnny Horscaulk
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'Of course Israel has done far more than passively serve as a model for US policy. By leading the drive toward a war on Iraq, its neocons and Israel Lobby actively grafted Israel’s foreign policy onto America. The long propaganda campaign diverted the post-9/11 rage and hysteria into a catastrophic war on an Israeli strategic rival that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 and posed no threat to American security.

On top of those killed, the Iraq War displaced millions, many of whom fled to Syria. There they joined hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees who themselves, their parents, or grandparents were driven from their homes long ago by Israel directly.

Unfortunately for them, Syria is also hated by Israel. So, Israel-firsters in Washington have since helped make Syrian regime-change official US policy. In pursuit of that policy, the government has fomented and armed a rebellion that has plummeted Syria into a devastating civil war.

Actually, it would be more apt to call it an invasion than a rebellion or civil war, as the leading “rebels” are predominantly international Sunni jihadists, like ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra, which is a branch of Al Qaeda.

That is how completely Israel-firsterism has hijacked the post-9/11 American rampage. In the latest stage of that rampage, the US has taken the side of Al Qaeda, the perpetrators of the very attacks that triggered the rampage in the first place, in order to overthrow yet another regional rival of Israel. This goes beyond “sympathy” to enthrallment.

As a result, displaced millions are pouring out of Syria (including many originally from Iraq and Palestine). And these comprise a huge part of the refugees pouring into Europe.

Western powers have been subverting, bombing, invading, and occupying Muslim countries non-stop since 9/11 (Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, etc), just as Israel has long subverted, bombed, invaded, and occupied Palestine, Lebanon, and more.

And now in Europe, governments are caging displaced Muslims and contemplating tyrannical measures to maintain “security” and “demographic purity,” just as Israel has done to the Muslims it has displaced within its own jurisdiction since its inception.' ...

http://original.antiwar.com/dan_sanchez/2015/09/21/remaking-the-world-in...

http://therealistreport.com/jewish-groups-demand-u-s-take-in-more-refugees/

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:06 | 6825100 Normalcy Bias
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Don't forget strip clubs and massage parlors. There seems to be at least one on every block in Tampa / St. Pete.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 23:04 | 6826282 Freddie
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i was out today and saw a young guy with one arm walking with a cane.  My guess is he was ex-military maimed by these dumb, evil and fake MIC wars.

Poor kid.  The evil zio USSA treats alien invaders better then these poor kids who enlisted for this never ending lie. 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 03:24 | 6826632 TAALR Swift
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If DHS doesn't get your brand of sarcasm by now, some humorless dimwit just might re-open and expand your file, rather than prioritize their resources on genuine targets.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:36 | 6824667 The Duke of New...
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My favortiate Rummy Quote: They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat".

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 20:36 | 6825768 FixItAgainTony
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When later asked by a reporter, "You said you knew where they were," Rumsfeld replied, "I did not. I said I knew where 'suspect' sites were."  The republic had been subdued with a few lawyerly weasel words.  Amazing how this m.o. continues to be the most effective weapon of the neocon military empire.

http://www.seattlepi.com/national/article/Rumsfeld-denies-making-claims-...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:36 | 6824668 Last of the Mid...
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Lol, centcom lied to the president!!! I'm sure. Too FUCKING funny. Article should read CENTCOM performs hari kari for gay brown muslim boy who just happens to be living in the White house.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:46 | 6824702 Ms No
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"We deferred responsibility on some folks"

This is one of the reasons why they will fail, no one who works for them below the highest positions is safe.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:52 | 6824717 rbg81
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I'm guessing that if any military officer wanted to be truthful (e.g., refused to doctor this intelligence assessments to what Obama wanted to hear), then his career was over.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:07 | 6824749 i_call_you_my_base
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Probably their life, not just career. I listened to an interview with the four guys who came out against droning and one said the FBI made repeated visits to him and even told his mother that ISIS was after them. And this was for something relatively minor in the grand scheme of things.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:41 | 6824684 souljaboy
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The NYT article is nothing more than cover for Obama and Hillary Clinton. That's it.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:27 | 6825347 erikaappleihzyjtyeg
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Yup.  Was on my way to write the very same thing.

This is the propoganda you write after clear and unalterable evidence comes out that your policies are failures.

The slaughter that was Paris can't be spun.

 

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:35 | 6825368 beemasters
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If it's all apparent to anyone outside Washington, I don't see how those in charge would be clueless. They knew, but chose to look the other way. Why? Who's really pulling the string?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:42 | 6824688 Bernard_2011
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I think it is highly likely that Clapper was getting CENTCOM to give phony intelligence to Obama---in order to give Obama the "justification" for not attacking ISIS more aggressively.

 

The question then is:  Who is really pulling Clapper's strings?  Does someone maybe have an NSA blackmail dossier on him?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:24 | 6825136 rbg81
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I used to think Jimmy Carter was the worst possible President that America could elect.  In hindsight, Carter was uninspiring and incompetent, but at least he followed the laws and generally had America's best interests in mind.  Then came Bill Clinton, who was a lying, cheating sack of shit who loathed the Military (and likely dodged the draft).  

He was followed by GW Bush, who I am convinced invaded Iraq not for oil, but to show the World that he could do what his Daddy couldn't.  And now we have Obama, who clearly could not give a shit about America or Americans (if he even is one)--but he has a helluva hard-on for illegals and Islamists.  That, plus he seems to be able to govern by Executive Order--and no one says "boo" because they are too fuking scared of being called a racist (or of what the NSA has on them).

I keep hoping that NO ONE could possibly be as bad as Obama.  But Hillary sure has potential.   She is a souless witch who only cares about Wall Street $$ and getting her pussy licked by a Muslim Brotherhood operative (Huma).  If she got voted out after one term, I wouldn't put her past her to start a global thermonuclear war out of spite.  Then she'd be ruler-for-life over the ashes of America from some bunker.

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:44 | 6824693 Ms No
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Damn, it has to be difficult to have your wheels spinning so hard and yet make sure that you go nowhere.  Such a joke.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:44 | 6824694 Jack Burton
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The lie has gone so deep that Public Broadcasting used video released by Russia of attacks on ISIS oil convoys and said they were USA videos "reflecting the USA's increasing attacks on ISIS oil trade".

Get it? PBS used Russian video and claimed it was Ameria at war!

UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:56 | 6824728 Skateboarder
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Propaganda Broadcasting Station and National Propaganda Radio are "unofficialiberal" arms of the lyin gubbamin, but this is a new low, even for them. Shame shame.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:02 | 6824739 i_call_you_my_base
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I listen to public radio on occassion and it's amazing. It's actually more of a government mouthpiece than the cnn, msnbc, fox news trio. They tow the government line verbatim.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:20 | 6824987 SWRichmond
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*toe

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:40 | 6825580 Anunnaki
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I cancelled my local NPR membership when they supported Ukro fascistssgainst Putin in 2014

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 09:23 | 6826978 Moe Howard
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Took you a long time to wake up.

 

BTW, you are still paying if you are a taxpayer.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:59 | 6824735 Grouchy Marx
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but it's very cost effective. 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 07:27 | 6826775 HowdyDoody
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Milo Minderbender would be proud.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:17 | 6824794 Consuelo
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All predictable circumstances of an empire in now (rapid) decline.   Lying, deceit and outright fabrication becomes S.O.P.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:11 | 6824965 bid the soldier...
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Very believable, JB, very.

Why didn't the Pentagon pass these videos onto Fox, too?  Why just to PBS?

 

If some of the peeps believed the story, that was fine.

If some later learned that they were the result of Russian action, well another nail in the coffin of the Holy Cred of of PBS, the last fount of Liberal Opinion on cable?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:28 | 6825006 Rubicon727
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NPR, and for that matter, BBC America, need to be bombed out of existence.

What I hate the most is NPR's boast that they pass themselves off as "Public."

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:35 | 6825563 Anunnaki
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Dependin on what circumanstances require the "P" stands for:

Pentagon
Petroleum
Propoganda

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:41 | 6825041 Johnny Horscaulk
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Jack, you are right and that was amazing.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/11/pbs-uses-russian-airstrike-videos-t...

But not surprising - remember the day after Russian airstrikes started? In lock step the media said they {intentionally} killed 30 plus civilians (no mention of us, saudi, or israeli attacks on hospitals of course).

But the photo run was from days earlier. And some of the hospitals the russians allegedly hit simply never existed.

https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2015/11/04/fake-allegations/

And then you had absolutely naked propaganda about the eeevil russians 'targeting' ambulances.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/06/why-are-the-russians-bo...

Thats cute because the Israelis have repeatedly done so (according to both palestinian and Israeli rights groups, former idf soldiers, oh and photo evidence - but *that* is never a story, or if it is, it is aleays alleged without evidence that it contained weapons or terrorists or whatever. But when its russia, they must not have.

US media marches insuch lockstep that one is forced to consider that it is 'controlled'.

Can you imagine if Russian troops did something like this:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2

Or if some european state never punished vile attacks on jewish women and kids like this:

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israel-hiding-killers-...

The cia likely has significantly more influence over the corporate msm than Even I have been prepared to consider.

But one also has to consider that it is incredibly difficult to make a list of major newspapers, magaines, websites, or news stations that is not disproportionately owned/managed/produced by an ethnoreligious group comprising less than 3% of the population. And where this is not the case (where??) you have people too terrified of organized Jewish groups to report **facts** about Israel or Jewish political power.

Yesthe internet has partly filled the gap but there are very few major traffic sites that dont adhereto the neocon/zionist narrative.

Anyone withan internet connection should have serious doubts about us government claims re isis, but they mostly do not due to a media wholly unwilling to engage in serious journalism.

This is 1984 with smartphones and lattes.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:17 | 6825115 rejected
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Shows how low these people can go Jack. And I know many that believe PBS no matter what.

Edit: Removed link to moon of alabama as johnny has it included in his excellent review in this thread.

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:05 | 6825451 WillyGroper
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@JackBurton,

I watch PBS/60 min for that very reason.  Since the spooks & data thieves just love to know everything we do, nothing gives me more pleasure than to delete the recording when the lies start for the tally whackers. Just so Hitlery knows they're still losing the infowar.

The body language is amusing too.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:28 | 6825529 Anunnaki
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Jack

Moon of Alabama did agreat story on how the Pentagon Bullshit Syndicate carried water for Obama lying about bombing oil trucks

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 08:01 | 6826816 Jack Oliver
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Here it is - On November 19, a program dubbed PBS NewsHour used the Russian footage and passed them off as US airstrikes, without revealing the true source.“For the first time the US is attacking oil delivery trucks,” a voice-over said while the exact same video released by the Russian Defense Ministry was being shown.

 

Daesh is reportedly generating as much as $40 million a month by producing and exporting oil it steals from the areas under its control.

 

According to US military officials, the group operates a fleet of over 1,000 oil tanker trucks.

 

US military officials say that they have studied eight major Syrian oil fields, namely Omar, Tanak, El Isbah, Sijan, Jafra, Azraq, Barghooth and Abu Hardan and are gearing up to inflict upon them the kind of damage which takes longer to fix or requires specially-ordered parts.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:44 | 6824695 Bohm Squad
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Sounds more like plausible deniability.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:01 | 6826146 r0mulus
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AGREE. it's very possible this is the old "we can't allow the office of president to be sullied by this", routine.

if obama didn't know enough to figure out what was going on in there anyways (as president, with all those resources and powers at his disposal), then, frankly, he must be an idiot.

obama is much more of a team player than an idiot. i can't believe he didn't get the full scoop on syria.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:45 | 6824700 Bernard_2011
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Remember this is the same James Clapper that committed perjury in front of Congress when testifying about mass surveillance conducted by the NSA.  Why did he feel compelled to lie about it?

 

Someone is pulling this guy's strings and quite possibly through blackmail!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:47 | 6824705 i_call_you_my_base
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US supporting ISIS in syria is the identical strategy to supporting al qaeda in afghanistan decades ago. It should be a surprise to no one.

I also wouldn't be surprised if obama didn't know. I increasingly believe that US foreign policy is run by the military with no civilian input or involvement whatsoever.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:50 | 6825612 Everybodys All ...
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Obama not knowing? Now that's a like far fetched imo.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:48 | 6824710 TrueBull
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Brilliant!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:55 | 6824720 css1971
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Spot the patsy.

 

Someone should be using R.I.C.O. against the USA government... Who watches the watchers?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 13:57 | 6824732 samsara
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We lied to some folks

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:00 | 6824737 Mewa
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Who the fuck do these people think they are trying to kid? The US military and the White house knew all along they were supporting and formenting Sunni extremism while trying to oust Assad....Now they and the US BS media are trying to create an excuse and cover for the fact that they created massive blowback revealling that these neocons are pretty stupid and evil after all.....Best for the rest of the world to simply ignore the US, sell any US dollar and US treasuries as quickly a possible, isolate the country and let them sink in their corrupt evil shit of a govt. Who cares if brain dead Americans ultimately pay the price...they sure dont care about anyone else. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:17 | 6824966 Demdere
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Everyone needs to keep "9/11 was a false flag by the US gov" firmly in mind while contemplating current events.

Our leaders all know that, and hide it.  All are criminals and will be in jail if the government ever decides to investigate for real.  They cannot let that happen.

9/11 as a large role of the dice, a major bet on their ability to control the media long enough for everyone to forget, for the facts to fade into the background and prevent it from ever being a real political factor.  RFK, JFK, MLK assassinations did not ever become major political factors, the 2 parties continued as before,  I don't think anyone lost an election because of those killings.

2015, people are losing elections because of 9/11.  The rejection of the Status Quo candidates is one aspect of the loss of gov legitimacy.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/14/in-reality-everything-is-c...

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/measures-of-propagandas-ef...

Combine with the economic disaster, catastrophe, crash that we are entering, and these will bring down governments.  No one should expect the governing power of mid-North America to be the government currently in power in another 10 years. It has discarded all legitimacy, we have not heard anything true from our government in many years.  It is clearly failing, and its inability to do anything intelligent is a measure of that failure.  Choosing to govern by coercion, choosing militarism and an activist foreign policy and doing so without extensive consultation with the wise men of a civilization, is a measure of their failure, as well as a cause of the events that so clearly delineate the size of the disaster.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:00 | 6824738 Mewa
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Who the fuck do these people think they are trying to kid? The US military and the White house knew all along they were supporting and formenting Sunni extremism while trying to oust Assad....Now they and the US BS media are trying to create an excuse and cover for the fact that they created massive blowback revealling that these neocons are pretty stupid and evil after all.....Best for the rest of the world to simply ignore the US, sell any US dollar and US treasuries as quickly a possible, isolate the country and let them sink in their corrupt evil shit of a govt. Who cares if brain dead Americans ultimately pay the price...they sure dont care about anyone else. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:04 | 6824745 Grouchy Marx
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I'm not surprised. Under Oboz's rules of engagement, the military is prevented from having any success. Fabrications are the only tool remaining to avoid looking incompetent. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:03 | 6825289 Haager
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It's kind of sad I that I can imagine this to happen. 'Oh, I didn't know that' - Nice words for the great commander in chief he is.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:05 | 6824747 silverer
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Well, I guess this helps save Obama's legacy. Another "excuse".

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:07 | 6824750 SillyWabbits
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In war, truth is the first casualty. Aeschylus Greek tragic dramatist (525 BC - 456 BC)

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