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ISIS Coverup: US Centcom Accused Of Lying To President, Congress, Public About Airstrikes, Ground Fight

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“...there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).”

We’ve said it before, and we’ll say it as many times as it takes for the naive, largely aloof American public to catch on: the quote excerpted above is the smoking gun when it comes to Washington’s ISIS “strategy.” 

Note that no tin foil hats or conspiracy theories are needed. The passage shown above is from a 2012 declassified Pentagon report on the situation in Syria (you can read it in full here). What it says is that US intelligence was well aware of the possibility that Sunni extremists working to destabilize the Assad government might move to establish a proto-state in eastern Syria based around orthodox, ultra-conservative, Sunni Islam. It also says “the supporting powers to the opposition” (i.e. the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey) would be delighted with such an outcome as it would “isolate” Assad on the way to dealing a strategic death blow to Iran’s Shiite crescent (i.e. Tehran’s regional ambitions). That’s the only possible interpretation of the quote shown above and it’s completely consistent with the information contained in a leaked diplomatic cable sent in 2006 by acting Deputy Chief of Mission in Syria William Roebuck which contained the following “advice” on how to go about destabilizing the Assad government: 

PLAY ON SUNNI FEARS OF IRANIAN INFLUENCE:  There are fears in Syria that the Iranians are active in both Shia proselytizing and conversion of, mostly poor, Sunnis.  Though often exaggerated, such fears reflect an element of the Sunni community in Syria that is increasingly upset by and focused on the spread of Iranian influence in their country through activities ranging from mosque construction to business. Both the local Egyptian and Saudi missions here, (as well as prominent Syrian Sunni religious leaders), are giving increasing attention to the matter and we should coordinate more closely with their governments on ways to better publicize and focus regional attention on the issue. 

Importantly, you don’t have to believe alien corpses are stored at Roswell to grasp what’s going on here. That is, the declassified documents and leaked diplomatic cables clearly indicate that the US planned to play on the Sunni/Shiite divide in Syria and subsequently acquiesced to the establishment of a hardline, Salafist dominion because the CIA and The Pentagon knew that such an outcome was the worst nightmare for the government in Damascus and also for Shiite Iran, whose link to Hezbollah would be cut and whose influence in Iraq would be in jeopardy if a Saudi-backed, Sunni militant group could somehow manage to take and hold large swaths of territory. 

That’s it. That’s the whole ISIS story in a nutshell. There’s no need to speculate on whether the creepy guy lurking in the background of the photos John McCain took with Syrian fighters was in fact Bakr al-Baghdadi. There’s no need to suggest that CIA operatives are on the ground assisting ISIS as we speak or that the US is paradropping weapons to Islamic State in Iraq. And there’s no need to ask whether the US government directly trained and armed ISIS once it became clear who the group was and what they intended to do. That’s not to say that some or even all of those storylines aren’t compelling and/or worth pursuing. It’s just to say that you needn’t posit anything that even looks like it might be a conspiracy theory to understand that at the end of the day, the bottom line - the almost irrefutable truth - is that the US and its regional allies were all-in on the “use Sunni extremists to bring about regime change in Syria” strategy from the word “go”, and the direct result of that strategy is ISIS. 

Where things get really interesting is when we start to consider how America’s strategy towards ISIS shifted once it became clear that, i) they are the most effective force when it comes to fostering instability in Syria, and ii) they are a brutal bunch and could very well end up becoming an international terror organization. 

For Russia’s part, Putin, Lavrov, and Maria Zarakhova contend that the US is deliberately pursuing a policy designed not to destroy the group, but merely to contain it. In short, Moscow says the US is effectively attempting to preserve Islamic State’s ability to operate within Syria and Iraq while simultaneously attempting to keep Frankenstein from escaping the lab, so to speak. Iran takes it a step further than that, but we’ll leave that aside for now. 

America’s newfound zeal for attacking ISIS oil trucks seems to validate this assessment. As we noted earlier this week, it isn’t clear why it took so long for the US to bomb Islamic State oil convoys given that crude is the group’s main source of revenue, but one explanation is that the US didn’t want to cut off Islamic State’s funding, because without money, the group couldn’t fight Assad. Now that the Russians have essentially called Washington out, the US has little choice but to go along with bombing runs against illegal crude shipments because Moscow is going to do it anyway. 

Well don’t look now, but The New York Times is out claiming that according to current and former officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity, US Central Command may have been involved in a year long effort to obscure the fact that America’s strategy to combat ISIS simply was not effective (it's actually a follow up to a previous piece which you can read here). Here’s more:

When Islamic State fighters overran a string of Iraqi cities last year, analysts at United States Central Command wrote classified assessments for military intelligence officials and policy makers that documented the humiliating retreat of the Iraqi Army. But before the assessments were final, former intelligence officials said, the analysts’ superiors made significant changes.

 

In the revised documents, the Iraqi Army had not retreated at all. The soldiers had simply “redeployed.”

 

Such changes are at the heart of an expanding internal Pentagon investigation of Centcom, as Central Command is known, where analysts say that supervisors revised conclusions to mask some of the American military’s failures in training Iraqi troops and beating back the Islamic State. The analysts say supervisors were particularly eager to paint a more optimistic picture of America’s role in the conflict than was warranted.

 

In recent weeks, the Pentagon inspector general seized a large trove of emails and documents from military servers as it examines the claims, and has added more investigators to the inquiry.

 

The exact content of those documents is unclear and may not become public because so much of the information is classified. But military officials have told Congress that some of those emails and documents may have been deleted before they had to be turned over to investigators, according to a senior congressional official, who requested anonymity to speak about the ongoing inquiry. Current and former officials have separately made similar claims, on condition of anonymity, to The New York Times. 

 

The insurrection inside Centcom is an important chapter in the story of how the United States responded to the growing threat from the Islamic State. This past summer, a group of Centcom analysts took concerns about their superiors to the inspector general, saying they had evidence that senior officials had changed intelligence assessments to overstate the progress of American airstrikes against the Islamic State, also known as ISIS.

Now why, you might ask, would "senior officials" at Centcom be determined to "overstate the progress of American airstrikes against ISIS"? Were they all scared for their jobs? Were they embarrassed that the group's rise "caught them off guard?" We certainly doubt it, given the bevy of leaked documents which pretty clearly indicate that both The Pentagon and CIA were well aware of what was going on years before the fall of Mosul put the group on the map.

The more likely explanation is that Centcom, probably in conjunction with other intelligence officials, wanted to avoid a scenario whereby The White House and Congress would press for a more aggressive, more conventional military campaign against the group. Not only would that have meant stepped up airstrikes and the possibility that Islamic State's capabilities could be degraded in Syria, but it could also have resulted in a scaling back of the CIA's covert efforts to overthrow Assad. In short, it looks as though the military, in conjunction with the CIA might have been intentionally keeping the President and lawmakers in the dark. As The Times puts it, "at the least, the prospect that senior officials intentionally skewed intelligence conclusions has raised questions about how much Mr. Obama, Congress and the public can believe the military’s assessments." 

For his part, Representative Devin Nunes of California, the Republican chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, is concerned and is now "planning to send a letter to the inspector general on Monday asking if emails and documents relevant to the investigation have indeed been deleted" and if so, Nunes wants to know if investigators might be able to retrieve them from Centcom servers.

Amusingly, the Pentagon is pulling a Janet Yellen by citing the ongoing internal investigation (which conveniently is taking longer than expected) on the way to denying Nunes' committee an opportunity to interview officials, including the two most senior intelligence officers at Centcom, Maj. Gen. Steven Grove and his civilian deputy, Gregory Ryckman.

In September, The Guardian suggested that the tendency for Centcom to provide upbeat assessments of the fight against ISIS may have been influenced by James Clapper, the director of national intelligence. Clapper "is said to talk nearly every day with Grove – 'which is highly, highly unusual', according to a former intelligence official," The Guardian reported, adding that "such a situation could place inherent pressure on a subordinate." The "subordinate" in this situation would be Grove. Here's a bit more: 

But one former intelligence official said Clapper “has to be careful of the Cheney effect, going over to the CIA and how does that affect people” – a reference to pressure felt by CIA analysts before the 2003 Iraq invasion to portray Saddam Hussein as posing a more dire threat than he actually did, following then Vice-President Dick Cheney’s direct interaction with far more junior analysts and officials.

 

“He can be manipulative,” a former senior defense official said of Clapper. For Clapper as a senior US intelligence officer with access to assessments across the 16 US intelligence agencies to query Grove, the Central Command intelligence chief, the ex-official said, “something’s wrong”.

 

Clapper’s calls, knowledgeable sources speaking on condition of anonymity said, placed Grove in a difficult bureaucratic position: between the nominal leader of the entire US intelligence apparatus and his lower-level analysts, several of whom consider the year-long war against Isis to be in dire straits.

So you decide. Is this the administration pressuring Centcom into telling Obama what he wants to hear, or is this Centcom deliberately obscuring the situation on the ground in order to pursue an agenda being pushed by intelligence officials hell bent on bringing about regime change in Syria even it means keeping ISIS operational? 

Hopefully, we'll get something in the way of answers over the next six or so months, but we're not holding our breath.

 

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Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:28 | 6825005 CuttingEdge
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When the truth fails, tyranny prevails.

Cutting Edge, pot smoking expat, (1963 - )

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:08 | 6824752 durablefaith
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Kudos for referring to him as Mr obama instead of president. Or is that Mr instead of commander in chief...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:16 | 6824792 Caleb Abell
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For the purpose of calling things what they are, what about "The Lawn Jockey?"

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:12 | 6824770 Able Ape
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I was part of the US military and I can personally attest that it is a fucked-up mess and I'm being very kind and generous in my assessment...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:31 | 6825358 AlaricGaudiTheSecond
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You are a very small minority

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:13 | 6824774 loveyajimbo
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Here is another big lie of the Obongo administration... this book was on Amazon for awhile, highly rated... then mysteriously pulled... BTW:  The Paris attack is getting very smelly too...

http://rense.com/general96/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook.pdf

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:13 | 6824776 Caleb Abell
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The article is a bunch of nonsense.  ALL of our military personnel are Heroes.  They would never ever lie.  Not only that, when push comes to shove and the public begins to resist the government, our Heroes will protect the American people.  There is absolutely zero chance that they would support the government and machine gun civilian women and children in the streets when higher ranking Heroes order them to.  No sirree Bob .. they're Heroes.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:01 | 6825282 Haager
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For that issue they have invented 'contractors'.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:15 | 6824782 Dragon HAwk
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One of the problems with keeping 3 sets of books is that you never remember which book is on top of the pile in the safe when you get Audited

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:17 | 6824795 rsnoble
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Someone either shit or get off the fucking pot as i've had it with the ever crashing economy that dwinles away year after year with all this world takeover bullshit going on.  It's hard to prepare and not get continually fucked becuase there's still a fully intact police state keeping you under their thumb all the way to tent fucking city.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:17 | 6824796 buzzsaw99
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this president prefers lies anyway

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:18 | 6824799 smacker
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"It also says “the supporting powers to the opposition” (i.e. the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey) would be delighted with such an outcome as it would “isolate” Assad on the way to dealing a strategic death blow to Iran’s Shiite crescent (i.e. Tehran’s regional ambitions). That’s the only possible interpretation of the quote shown above and it’s completely consistent with the information contained in a leaked diplomatic cable sent in 2006 [...]"

So it's about giving Iran's "Shiite Crescent" a darned good kicking and not about the two competing gas pipelines that must cross Syria (Iran's and Qatar's). I suspect it's about both.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:19 | 6824801 farmboy
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Bullshit. In good old American tradition the bringer of bad news is the bad news himself.

So nobody will speak the truth because this whole ISISI's  stuff  concocted by the government is a big mistake even to dumb to elude on it.

But scapegoating must commence now for the American public because the truth is comming out.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:45 | 6825593 Everybodys All ...
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Obama can't be seen siding with all of these terror organizations.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:22 | 6824812 Consuelo
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This was an excellent piece, but...

 

I would have been nice to flesh it all out, namely what the real goal of our intelligence operations there are, the ultimate geo-strategic goal of said operations and lastly, how much of an influence in our agencies and political process, is the Israeli goverment...?    The story can't come together otherwise - too many obvious gaps that beg to be assembled and presented.

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:22 | 6824813 cheech_wizard
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http://freebeacon.com/national-security/us-pilots-confirm-obama-admin-bl...

Standard Disclaimer: A winning strategy to be sure.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:39 | 6824874 Joebloinvestor
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So I suppose we can now expect a major miliary purge or a military coup?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:21 | 6825496 Anunnaki
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A coup where the military pulls out of the MiddleEast after carpet bombing Riyadh, Ankara, doha and Tel Aviv might be deligtful

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:45 | 6824893 Himins
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"Support our Troops" is an IQ screening test:

"Support our troops" (Noun): meaning send Rabble Goyim off to an early grave. Destroy the lives of others, and the planet we need for our children.

 

Synonymous with "War Of Terror".(Noun) meaning War on a (Noun).

 

Synonymous also with "Patriot Act", (Noun) Loss of all freedoms and Liberty to support umm... "Freedom Democracy" aaaand Liberty

 

Synonymous also with "Police state", (Noun) send rabble goyim to the killing fields to support NSA, TSA, DHS, Pentagon, Washington Beltway, and the profits made from Military Contractors.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:46 | 6824896 Dadburnitpa
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This is the direct result of replacing mid-grade and high ranking officers who have meaningful leadership experience with careerists who are nothing more than political lapdogs.  Anyone who has spent even a day in uniform knows exactly what kind of leadership comes along with a careerist.  Cover ups, lies, finger pointing, blaming subordinates and excuses are ops normal for these types. Careerists beget more careerists and pretty soon you've got nobody left who even knows how to lead.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:59 | 6824925 Cobalt59
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Thank God I left when the getting was good, I know all too well that bus drivers make excellent leaders and people who brown nose their superiours. It lacks innovative leadership- and you get marked if you refuse to play reindeer games and not join the bandwagon thinking. I along with my colleges made it only so far because it isnt worth it and you get burned out trying to make the system better. I've never seen any high offical fired, stripped of benefits which they should- like a Captain was flying his mistress out to his carrier on deployment- he was "fired" or known as playing golf with a huge retirement pension earlier than he thought. UCMJ clearly condones adultery and this guy was let off with a slap. I couldn't care if you are 60 and once lived a lavish lifestyle, back to the humble life because you knew better but you did it anyways.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:55 | 6824929 souljaboy
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Relax. "This" never happened.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:47 | 6824902 insanelysane
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The emporer has been told that his clothes look great and his military is crushing ISIS.  They also told him that trading 5 terrorist leaders for 1 deserter was a bargain.  So much for equality of human lives.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:48 | 6824908 marcusfenix
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goddamn, now we see just how big of a monkey wrench Moscow threw into the program...

you know, by actually bombing shit that matters and leaving everybody else to wonder why there was so much important stuff left intact after over a year of freedum bombs from the coalition of something like 12 countries.

it is fun to watch them start to turn on each other though, hopefully we get to see more of this in the future. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 14:56 | 6824932 bid the soldier...
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a few things

 but one explanation is that the US didn’t want to cut off Islamic State’s funding, because without money, the group couldn’t fight Assad. 

another explanation is that Washington was hell bent on keeping the price of oil low to ruin the Russian economy and that meant getting as much oil to the market as possible

In other words, wrecking Russia was much more important than defeating ISIL.  And the fight against Putin was much more important than the fight against Assad.

From the NYT:

the prospect that senior officials intentionally skewed intelligence conclusions has raised questions about how much Mr. Obama, Congress and the public can believe the military’s assessments." 

From the ZH writer:

 Is this the administration pressuring Centcom into telling Obama what he wants to hear, 

Isn't there a possibility that Obama WAS NOT out of the loop? That after 7 years of doing exactly what his Pentagon overlords told him to do, the President was taken into their confidence?
And isn't there a possibility that the deception and deceit of Centcom existed for no more complicated a reason than to keep the American public and, more importantly, the AMERICAN MAIN STREAM MEDIA satisfied and willing to continue to accept the false picture of the battle against terrorism painted by the Pentagon? 

"Goebbels' real lies, his conscious lies, always pertained to mere detail ...," writes Heiber. "Goebbels' lies were more in the nature of those equivocations and evasions by which government spokesmen everywhere seek to 'protect' the 'national interest'." [pp. 134, 135]

Helmut Heiber paints a highly critical and generally unflattering portrait in his biography,Goebbels (New York: Hawthorn, 1972)


There remains the problem of Goebbels' reputation. He wore the title of Big Liar (bestowed by Anglo-Saxon propaganda) and yet he never stopped battling for propaganda to be as accurate as possible. He preferred being cynical and brutal to being caught in a lie. He used to say: "Everybody must know what the situation is." He was always the first to announce disastrous events or difficult situations, without hiding anything. The result was a general belief between 1939 and 1942 that German communiqués not only were more concise, clearer and less cluttered, but were more truthful than Allied communiqués (American and neutral opinion) -- and, furthermore, that the Germans published all the news two or three days before the Allies. All this is so true that pinning the title of Big Liar on Goebbels must be considered quite a propaganda success.

Propaganda (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1968; Vintage, 1973 [p. 54]), French scholar Jacques Ellul

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:42 | 6825589 Everybodys All ...
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To think that Obama does not know is so utterly ridiculous that only his sycophant voters would believe this garbage.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:01 | 6824940 localizer
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I honestly don't understand how the world still believes what USSA officials are saying, it's truly mind-boggling. I mean it's not like you have to dig too deep to connect even the very basic dots... all the information is readily available (yes, even in the MSM FFS!) for anyone with half a brain.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:09 | 6824956 Cobalt59
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I think people do exist in numbers who are aware but are never collective in one spot. The media just portrays this idea of extremism to give the illusion we are all dumb, fat, lazy people. They pick people to help stratify the politics with ignorant people on both side of the issue. The ignorant people are all to quick on Facebook sharing opinions without fact checking it- so it seems over saturated. All this creates confusion, and forces lines to be drawn and the sheep just flock to fold they feel most comfortable. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:01 | 6824945 Ban KKiller
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When James Comey and James Clapper can openly lie to Congress with no consequences why would anyone tell the truth? Especially when the truth might harm the war profiteering sister fuckers in Congress? 

Of course the Banksters wrote the book on lying. They call it "free market". Free to manipulate, that is. See Barclays latest criminal acts...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:05 | 6824952 grunk
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We dropped explosive condoms on them.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:09 | 6824961 cookies anyone
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caught red-handed, cue the patsies

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:16 | 6824975 Johnny Horscaulk
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Isis is a us/israeli proxy.

The us has not seriously targeted isis - which is obvious.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
http://russia-insider.com/en/war-terror-joke-you-see-isis-guys-eating-mc...

The 'neocons' - mostly Jewish Zionists have been calling for war on syria for years. The 'mostly Jewish' thing is a fact. It was a Jewish, Zionist movement whether you know their history or not.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html

Pnac merely updated old plans for the destruction of israrl's neighbors.

http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...
http://america-hijacked.com/2012/02/12/israel-lobby-pushes-for-us-action...
http://original.antiwar.com/dan_sanchez/2015/10/05/seize-the-chaos/

Isis is a zionist golem. Kristol, kagan, perle want American goyim to help create greater israel in fire and non-jewish blood.
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future

http://www.moonofalabama.org

Real islamic psychos, run by us, saudi, and israeli intelligence.

If this sounds crazy still, go back and consider the 'dancing Israelis' and how the msm didnt cover *that* either...

http://youtu.be/QphxGBXiA-M

This isnt all that is going on, there are multiple actors and motives but as to the zog and us media... Its about Israel.

Its the Oded Yinon plan
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:24 | 6825001 coast
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Holiday retail sales will be very low...can't blame it on winter weather (snow) because that would mess up their global warming scam, so they will blame isis...a group they funded armed and trained....warnings to stay out of malls sure will help online sales...sales that can be tracked because you can't pay cash online...and they don't want people congregating etc...interesting plan they have going on

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:29 | 6825011 WTFUD
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Who's this Frankie Stein geezer Moscow's talking 'bout? Sounds like the sort of feller Nudelman would take home to meet her parents.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:31 | 6825019 Cobalt59
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Blaming CENTCOM is like robbing a bank, and blaming your hand for it. 

 

>Sir, we've found intel on that our airtrikes and attack plan are ineffective

*waves hand* These are the reports you are looking for

>Sir, I've managed to copy Russian airstrike videos and overlay them with Kenny Loggin's Danger zone

My God, write this guy an award, he's got golden intel! Send it up to the White house now!

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:31 | 6825020 imapopulistnow
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Or, the military is being thrown under the bus?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:40 | 6825036 Bazza McKenzie
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Precisely.  Obama wanted to hear only what fitted with his view of the world and commanders were disciplined if they brought any news that he didn't want to hear.  So they leaned on subordinates to produce the "intelligence" Obama wanted.

But now the Russians have shown that Obamaworld is nonsense, it is all the fault of the military which was doing what Obama, as their boss, obliged them to do.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:32 | 6825022 reader2010
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All you need is Stalin's approach to traitors.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:01 | 6825034 SSRI Junkie
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tarkus

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:39 | 6825037 Chia-Pet
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Bullish smoking gun

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:49 | 6825060 Hopeless for Change
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We lied to some folks.

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:49 | 6825061 phoolish
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Have the Yazidi's been taken off the mountain yet?

ISIS, whatever they are, are obviously Owebomber's private proxy army.  That's been pretty obvious to "awake" people from the very start.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:50 | 6825064 Johnny Horscaulk
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Time for people in the military to start leaking more info and to begin regarding Vichy Washington as a hostile, occupying power because otherwise, it is decades of war that will destroy this country and kill millions.

http://america-hijacked.com/2012/02/12/israel-lobby-pushes-for-us-action...
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...

And lets not forget the pipelines
http://www.mintpressnews.com/migrant-crisis-syria-war-fueled-by-competin...

Of course if you think the Zionist Occupied Government of the US is doing all this to help Qatari gas compete with Israel's gas from Leviathan, you might want to reconsider. Paramount of course was stopping the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline and destroying ANY chance of ANY PIPELINE transiting through.

Weaken Russia, sure - but not by aiding qatar at the economic expense of Israel. And a destroyed, Balkanized syria is the goal.

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...

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Why Syria? An Examination Of The Iran-Iraq-Syria Pipelin
http://ftmdaily.com/what-jerry-thinks/whysyria/

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:12 | 6825114 PoasterToaster
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Israel smashed Gaza and turned it into a Stateless area, and they obviously think this pattern should be repeated.  Easier to murder and subjugate people when they don't have their own State, or so they think.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:52 | 6825068 me or you
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Blame on the American people for let those traitors and dual-citizens run the country.

And US MSM is run by Jews who don't give a damn about this country.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 15:57 | 6825077 danepol
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Muslim trolls thick afoot on ZH today. Us? Not us ... it's the Jews!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:33 | 6825552 Raymond_K._Hessel
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It is hard to take the whining of an uncritical Israel Firster like you seriously anymore.

And the 'israel is the same as 'the jews'' thing is not going to work here.

http://america-hijacked.com/2012/02/12/israel-lobby-pushes-for-us-action...

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 02:25 | 6826580 Otrader
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On July 22, 1946, Jewish terrorists dressed as Arabs blew up the King David Hotel in Palestine, killing 91 and injuring 45. The perpetrators were Menachem Begin's Irgun extremist group; the same Menachem Begin who went on to win the  Nobel peace prize 32 years later, as Israeli Prime Minister. This false-flag style, in which stage-managed attacks are blamed on an innocent third party for political ends, was to be a cornerstone of Israeli state terrorism and frequently employed over the following decades including the 21st century. It did not always succeed - particularly in the Forties, Fifties and Sixties - in which case Jews ended up having to admit responsibility. However, they never showed any remorse. And in July 2006, Israeli right-wingers including former prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu held a two-day seminar to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the King David bombing.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 20:04 | 6825812 Johnny Horscaulk
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Not guilty. The Israeli captain who emptied his rifle into a Palestinian schoolgirl
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2

Israel hiding killers who burned Palestinian family alive, minister reveals
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israel-hiding-killers-...

Jewish Groups Demand U.S. Take In More “Refugees
http://therealistreport.com/jewish-groups-demand-u-s-take-in-more-refugees/

You are a vile twat.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:08 | 6825105 Hannibal
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So we have traitors in the Pentagon?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:39 | 6825576 Everybodys All ...
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And in the administration just to be clear.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:09 | 6825111 PoasterToaster
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I'd ask why you'd fall on your sword to protect a bunch of douchebag politicians, but this generation of scumbag quisling "leadership" makes the answer self explanatory.  All they had to do was offer these dipshit loser generals some kind of threat/offer of escape scenario and these self centered aholes would jump on it.

But the people don't care, it's the politicians who will be blamed anyway.  All they've managed to do is to spread blame further and tarnish even more of the "Establishment" in the eyes of Americans.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:50 | 6825117 Niall Of The Ni...
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Just like the Grey Lady to only print the truth when she (and the rest of the MSM) can no longer keep it hushed up. 

Moving on...

It's almost certainly the White House pressuring the Pentagon. Lame-duck Obama didn't want to know. His head is already on the construction site for his Presidential Library and he was perfectly happy to leave it to his successors to clean up the mess, until Paris, when the French told him to shape up or France was done as a US ally.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:23 | 6825151 Dark Daze
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So the psychopaths hire other psychopaths. No surprise there.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:31 | 6825156 Dark Daze
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Looks like CENTCOM is doing everything it can to suppress this story. I wonder if the armed forces will even hold together or not.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:30 | 6825176 Dark Daze
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And as Kennedy alluded to, somthing for which he was killed no doubt, the scale and durability of their mission is practically beyond our imaginations. However, they are showing their hand now. They are either ready to turn tail or fight in the open.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:36 | 6825206 Grimaldus
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This article is progressive lies to cover the Obirdbrain progressive stupid.

Lets hope he is finaly arrested and shot for his crimes.

Grimaldus

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:36 | 6825208 Bunga Bunga
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What would be America without ISIS?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 16:55 | 6825269 JohninMK
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Meanwhile, over in the Navy Department at the Pentagon they suddenly realised that they had made a serious cock-up. All this bombing action and not a Navy/Marine plane in sight, just the French Navy carrier. Quelle horreur!!! Panic, get that carrier out of here and at flank speed to the eastern Med. Sod the task force if they can't keep up, there is a pack of Aegis destroyers in Spain we can collect on the way.

That may be the real reason as there is no clear operational reason for the US to have more aircraft/another runway (the carrier) in the area as long as they have access to Incirlik airbase in Turkey. The USAF is not exactly hitting lots of targets in Syria so the dozen or so F-15E/A-10 along with the weapons stores there are adequate.

But there in lies is a possible strategic reason for the rush, what happens if the fight against ISIS is so successful that it really pisses Turkey off and it closes access to Incirlik?

This carrier could be viewed as an insurance policy.

Also, the majority of targets the US/NATO is hitting are in the North and East of Syria, well served by aircraft from Incirlik and Jordan. This is probably due to the US having targeting data in that area plus not wanting to attack areas where the Russian Air Force/advisers plus Iranians are active. Carrier based aircraft in the Med have no real function in that scenario, other than getting in the way of the Russians and French. Whilst if Turkey shuts its airspace any US planes from the carrier would probably have to overfly Israel to get to Syria avoiding the Russians.

We could be rapidly heading towards a military airspace exclusion zone being declared by Syria over large parts of the country. Now that would be interesting.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:12 | 6825309 Max Steel
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"We judge others by our own standards, until we are disappointed"

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:14 | 6825674 lakecity55
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Wait until the Russians turn on their ECM gear. The only thing flying will be Russian or Iranian.

Anything else will be S300 bait.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:22 | 6825341 Truly Inspiration
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Listen what Putin tells about ISIS and the US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbZDyr2LkdI&ab_channel=InessaS

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:36 | 6825376 Goldilocks
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The X files - Intro - Opening theme - Orginal HQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbBX6aEzEz8 (0:42)

Celebrity Deathmatch - Men In Black Vs X Files
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o22puqJJNUQ (4:58)

Will Smith - Men in Black/Gettin' Jiggy Wit It (Grammys 1998)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9iO0B0zw8s (4:23)

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:37 | 6825377 idahosinker
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 A friend said, he did not unterstand how you get maybe 500 raghead truck drivers to park there trucks so perfectly.

Its like all those crop cirles, and other ancient stuctures, that only have ordered from the air.

Westerners that have driven in that part of the world, notice the chaos with low 80's IQ drivers driving.

He said, if they were owner operated they would not be sitting still.

 they looked more like toy trucks.

I told him he is nuts. That would take a almost world wide conspiracy, that would involve almost everything.

I remember what Bush the short said. He warned about people talking about conspirarcies.

I wonder were the drivers go after they park them, its like a mothball fleet in the desert.

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:53 | 6825420 Wahooo
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No tin hat or anything, but I too thought it was odd how those trucks were all just parked there, especially when ISIS knows they are going to get bombed. And I wondered why the Russians just used single bombs and not cluster bombs or strafing. The ended up destroying maybe 1 percent of the targets. Does anyone want to destroy ISIS?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:16 | 6825485 Gregor Samsa
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Instead of "knowing they would get bombed" perhaps ISIS assumed they were completely safe from being bombed because in 1 year of American airstrikes not a single oil truck was so much as scratched?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:43 | 6825392 honestann
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I'm not positive, but it is looking like the Russians bombed the oil conveys, and some lying piece of crap in the USSA administration claimed credit for that action for PR.

The USSA and allies are now 100% corrupt... not just 99% any more.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:07 | 6825459 Anunnaki
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Your instincts are right on Ann. see Moon of Alabama article I submitted

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:24 | 6825507 Angus McHugepenis
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Ann: Who are you going to believe... gov propaganda or your own lying eyes?

Another poster here (forgot who it was) mentioned earlier that NPR or some other "news" outlet posted videos of the Russian air strikes and claimed it was the USofBanksterAid that actually did the airmail delivery of explosive devices.

I have no idea what is truth or fiction anymore when it comes to reading this stuff. Unless I see it with my own eyes, hear it with my own ears, it doesn't exist.

Best to you Ann. Nice to see you around again.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:29 | 6825533 Everybodys All ...
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I would put nothing past this con man in the White House.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 17:48 | 6825403 847328_3527
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This generation is so dumbed down they're dumber then a bag of hammers. Just take a look at the kids protesting on campuses against free speech.

wtf?!

 

It's no surprise they have a tought time finding a job with their [crappy] qualifications and piss poor attitudes.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:04 | 6825447 Anunnaki
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http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/11/pbs-uses-russian-airstrike-videos-t...

Theyare lying about bombing DAesh oil trucks. onLy Russia is doing that

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:12 | 6825470 topshelfstuff
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or James Corbett's full story Collection

Paris Attacks Truth: ISIS is a False Flag

by corbettrep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhW0o2ym8h8

Paris Attacks Truth: ISIS is a False Flag

 

Paris Attacks Truth: ISIS is a False Flag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhW0o2ym8h8 Published on Nov 17, 2015

SHOW NOTES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=16964

As The Corbett Report community continues to track the latest updates on the Paris attack investigation, let us not forget the essential underlying truth: ISIS is a creation of the US, Turkey, Israel and the Gulf States, and they are fostered, funded, equipped, armed, trained and protected by the NATO allies and the GCC, France included.

Episodes   295-why   ,279=who

SHOW NOTES:

The Paris Terror Attacks: An Open Source Investigation

Episode 298 – Gladio B and the Battle for Eurasia

Episode 295 – Who is Really Behind ISIS?

Episode 279 – Who Is Really Behind the Syrian War?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:48 | 6825606 lakecity55
Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:08 | 6825462 Tachyon5321
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Phony disinformation from TeamObama. The same idiots that blamed a video on the death of our Benghazi ambassador.  

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:39 | 6825574 lakecity55
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"Somebody has to take a fall. We're being skewered in the press. The Russians made it obvious we haven't done jack."
"Dump it on those stiffs at Centcom. We'll claim they lied to us."

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:25 | 6825515 Everybodys All ...
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To think that the very slick con man Obama doesn't know exactly what's going on with Isis is just pure nonsense. If you believe that then tryout also believing their story about Benghazi. This does not add up at all.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:47 | 6825602 Anunnaki
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Plausible deniability

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:27 | 6825518 Everybodys All ...
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Duplicate

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:26 | 6825519 Everybodys All ...
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duplicate.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:29 | 6825536 HowdyDoody
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The US talks, the Russians walk. A video of RuAF attack helicopters aiding Syrian troops pasting ISIS to dust. For fans of the A-10 gatling gun, the Russian helicopters have their equivalent in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Nf_Dj0ARQ

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:36 | 6825566 jtg
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Those rat f**ks Allen Dulles and his brother architected the US Deep State MIC centered around the CIA, a Secret State that has undermined what should have been American open society. They (with Allen Dulles at its center) killed JFK after he told his associates that he wanted to disband the CIA and scatter it to the winds.

Since the death of JFK the US Deep State has infected all American institutions. The disinfectant now required to cleanse the US of its CIA/MIC Deep State infection will nearly kill the host.

Democrats and Republicans fight over scraps dropped from the Deep State table while nothing changes and the elites play on and keep making more money while our standard of living keeps dropping.

How will it end? Either WW3 with the death of billions or the defeat or exhaustion of the US. Let us hope its the latter but I am not optimistic that the lunatic US elites will accept defeat and will in the end take us all to the grave.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:37 | 6825570 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Hey do you (or snyone) know of any really good books/articles vids on dulles?

I know a little bit but I know his fuckery is legendary.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:06 | 6825657 lakecity55
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Look up "The Devil's Chessboard," it will tell you more than you want to know, unfortunately.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 23:09 | 6826288 Freddie
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The Dulles brothers also wrote the treaty of versailles.   Allen Dulles was right there when JFK was murdered.  JFK had just fired him.

The entire govt is corrupt from the top to the bottom including state and local. All the alphabet agencies.  All corrupt.

Anyone who thinks some phony kabuki election in 2016 will fix anything is delusional.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:42 | 6825572 earleflorida
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Laicite {ensconsed by Salafist`wahabbism via sharia} IS`lamis'm

and here's the rub? Obama could give a fuck about containment when his term ends in 2016.

It's your problem now, 'Murika'!!!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:42 | 6825587 RMolineaux
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The practice of hiring hoodlums, drug barons and fanatics to do its dirty work by the US CIA has become so deeply imbedded in its culture for so long that they do not know any other way to do things.  It is a case of institutionalised criminality.  The only cure is to close down the CIA's operational activities alltogether.   It would be argued that the CIA would then not be able to do its covert activities.  Good.  We will all be better off if it is deprived of this capability.  Of course, it can continue its information gathering activities - which were always the only legiimate reason for its existance. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:04 | 6825653 lakecity55
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Allen Dulles started that, with agruments from, but always a cave-in, by Foster Dulles.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:58 | 6825799 YHC-FTSE
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I've romanticized about somebody, a good guy, a real life Kevin Costner character in the FBI or Secret Service putting the blatant threads of criminality in the CIA together to shut it all down. Alas, even when the antics of Operation Gladio B is out in the open showing the jaw dropping drug/gun/slave running murdering traders doing the dirty work for the CIA in the 21st century, not a damn thing has been done about it.

Gladio B: The Origins of NATO's secret Islamic Terrorist Proxies

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:47 | 6825597 scaleindependent
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And some idiots here pray for a military coup.

F'n idiots.

The military junta has no "separation of powers".  It has no checks and balances.

It is a ruler unto itself.

l'état, c'est moi

Or whatever. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 20:32 | 6825880 FixItAgainTony
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Too late, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces has absolute power via executive-order diktat as long as the legislature continues ignoring their duties.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:51 | 6825615 SMC
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Taking a fall for Obummer and company.

Whatever happened to "You can delegate authority but never responsibility"?

The propaganda continues...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:04 | 6825616 Crocodile
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Just ask who has the most to gain, then you have the motive for almost all wars; particularly since WWI.  Obama is a puppet taking orders, a very lost soul.  Any verbal attacks on the US Military itself would be to ward off the growing sentiment within the US for a coup; our only viable hope for our children and their futures and that seems very dim at the moment.

 

Poll finds almost a third of Americans would support a military coup

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/11/military-coup-some-americ...

 

The wicked have drawn the sword And have bent their bow (made ready for WAR), To cast down the poor and needy, To slay those who are of upright conduct (those who belong to God/Jesus).   Their sword shall enter their own heart, And their bows shall be broken. (Jesus has already prevailed along with His children & the wicked will perish)  May the LORD bless all of you.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:53 | 6825622 Baron von Bud
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Yep, the US is lying about attacking ISIS. Per The Intercept, 90% of the people killed by drone strikes are civilians. No doubt that's a great recruiting tool for terrorists. But since America has terrorists on the payroll maybe that's their brilliant strategy. Hire the brothers and fathers of all the kids they kill. They're lying about the unemployment rate too. When aren't they lying? When you can't trust your government to tell the truth about anything, how much time does it have left before it starts killing its own people to suppress dissent?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:56 | 6825625 DarthVaderMentor
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Something is really rotten here. The political fall guys are the military? They lied to Obama when it can be easily proven with ironclad documentation? Nah, I don't believe the military was that stupid to lie to Obama. Maybe his staff is incompetent or biased towards Iran or there's a Manchurian candidatein the White House (Valerie Jarrett a native born Iranian?). 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:56 | 6825629 earleflorida
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CENTCOM lying???

"COVER`UP"!!!

give me a fucking break...

Vietnam with Kennedy/Johnson/ Nixon...

Reagans' 'Iran Contra/ Soviet War/ AFPAK...

Operation (Kuwait/ Iraq) Desert Storm`Gulf War and Saudi Arabia-- placing infidel aramaments atop Mecca and Medina holy sites... 

Afghanistan War/ 911 via OBL/al Qaeda...

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:57 | 6825632 Anunnaki
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So which is it? Is Peace Prize clueless or complicit in a cover up?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 02:15 | 6826570 Otrader
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Voicebox with wires coming out of him.  He's surrounded himself with dual citizen advisors for military and finance.  Just a puppet pres.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 18:58 | 6825636 83_vf_1100_c
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  But obama fired all the 'bad' Generals. You hand pick your cronies to suit your needs, don't be surprised if they lie to make you feel good. If they were Nork Generals the dogs would be eating well. Probably they are just being thrown under the bus.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:00 | 6825643 Noplebian
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Serious Stuff!

The truth summed up using m&m's......

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/the-refugee-crisis-...

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:12 | 6825670 roadhazard
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I can believe it, The military is under someone else's orders it looks like to me. During Israels last military campaign against Hamass in Gaza the Israelis wanted to use some special munitions that the US had in storage there. Obama said no so someone went around Obama direct to the Pentagon to get someone to unlock the warehouse door. That is pretty fuckin' scary to me.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:38 | 6825741 Johnny Horscaulk
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As Morris notes in his presentation, elimination of the Assad regime in Syria was not an idea conceived by either the neocons or the broader Israel lobby; rather it can be traced back to the Israeli Likudniks, being articulated by Oded Yinon in his 1982 piece, “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties.” In this article, Yinon called for Israel to use military means to bring about the dissolution of Israel’s neighboring states and their fragmentation into a mosaic of ethnic and sectarian groupings. Yinon believed that this would not be a difficult undertaking because nearly all the Arab states were afflicted with internal ethnic and religious divisions. In essence, the end result would be a Middle East of powerless mini-statelets that could in no way confront Israeli power. Lebanon, then facing divisive chaos, was Yinon’s model for the entire Middle East. Yinon wrote: “Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target.” (Quoted in “The Transparent Cabal,” p. 51)

What stands out in the stark contrast to the debate taking place today is that Yinon’s rationale for eliminating the dictatorial regimes in Syria and elsewhere in the Middle East had absolutely nothing to do with their oppressive practices and lack of democracy, but rather was based solely on Israel’s geostrategic interests-the aim being to permanently weaken Israel’s enemies. The neoconservatives took up the gist of the Yinon’s position in their 1996 Clean Break policy paper, whose authors included neocons Richard Perle, David Wurmser, Douglas Feith, which was presented to then incoming Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. It urged him to use military force against a number of Israel’s enemies, which beginning with Iraq would include “weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria.” Once again the fundamental concern was Israeli security, not liberty and democracy for the people of those countries. (“The Transparent Cabal,” p. 90)

Numerous neocons before and after 9/11 expressed the need to confront Syria in order to protect the security of both the United States and Israel, whose interests they claimed coincided. And this position on Syria was concurred in by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who, one month before the US invasion of Iraq, identified it, along with Libya and Iran, as an ideal target for future US action. Sharon stated: “These are irresponsible states, which must be disarmed of weapons [of] mass destruction, and a successful American move in Iraq as a model will make that easier to achieve.” ( Quoted in “The Transparent Cabal,” p. 172)

A month after Bush’s 2004 re-election, Bill Kristol would emphasize the key position of Syria in the “war on terrorism.” He wrote in the “Weekly Standard” that because Syria was allegedly interfering with America’s efforts to put down the insurgency in Iraq, it was thus essential for the United States “to get serious about dealing with Syria as part of winning in Iraq, and in the broader Middle East.” (Quoted in “The Transparent Cabal,” pp. 253-254)

http://america-hijacked.com/2012/02/12/israel-lobby-pushes-for-us-action...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:40 | 6825745 Berspankme
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President Obama, the people are questioning your strategy in Syria.

 

The chimp says- just blame it on the military, say they lied to me.

 

Good strategy peace prize- Can we go golfing now?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 02:13 | 6826568 Otrader
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Obama's go to guy on ME policy is the dual citizen Zbigniew Brzezinski.  Anyone remember this douche bag?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:46 | 6825766 SmittyinLA
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Congress is "developmentally disabled" they didn't notice 6 years of executive appointee treason.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/schlumberger-oilfield-holdings-ltd-agrees-...

Fooling congress is about as hard as Fooling grandma in the movie "Bad Santa" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qtF5dMzAF2k

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:50 | 6825775 Dre4dwolf
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Typical Obama blaming others for his own doing/crimes.

 

This rot is from the top down, not from the bottom up.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 19:53 | 6825783 Faeriedust
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Good Goddess, don't you people know how Pentagon politics works by now?

1) Initial analyses are always "prettied up" by supervisors to portray things as the Higher Ups want to see them.

2) If someone in the direct chain of command has an agenda, the final analysis will ALWAYS support that agenda.

3) If facts on the ground make Somebody look bad, said facts will be "disappeared" before reaching Higher Levels.

4) Anybody intelligent enough to make it into the Oval Office (except Jimmie Carter) knows all of this, knows to take all advice with a small Siberian salt mine, and makes it his/her business to know which agendas belong to whom.

5) Lower-level analysts are ALWAYS pissed about the hash that political superiors make out of their very painstaking work, and you can ALWAYS find somebody ready to spill the beans and point the finger about the alterations that have been made, if you have the time, money, and contacts to locate said Somebody (who may need a new job afterward according to the level of security spilled -- and you may need to guarantee it to get the goods).

This is just Situation Normal in the Halls of the Grey-Faced God.

 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 20:05 | 6825814 Westcoastliberal
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Isn't Clapper the same fuck that lied before Congress about NSA spying?  Yes I think so.  Why hasn't he been indicted, tried, and most likely sitting in a Federal prison instead of giving orders to the Central Command?  Indeed, something VERY wrong here.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 20:29 | 6825872 oncefired
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With Clapper in constant contact with Centcom, we all know Obutthead is in the loop, or should I say Valerie Jarrett knows exactly what is going on. Vlad is a wild card they weren't expecting and he is going to wipe them out using Iranian & Hezbollah Ground Forces with Spetsnaz Advisors. Our Idiot neocons can call for No-Fly zones all they want, but no doubt Russia controls the airspace above Syria. Another US Cluster-Fuck!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 20:39 | 6825908 Richard Whitney
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Occam would disagree with the complicated conclusion.

Maybe the President wants to hear only what supports his ideological attitude, and he demotes or fires anyone who reports the truth. Centcom careerists get the message and tell him what he wants to hear.

Now that it isn't working out, accuse Centcom of lying to you ratrher than you solicited and countenanced the lies.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:01 | 6825914 V for ...
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Too little, too late. This blame game is unconvincing. Individual names and aims are left out, eg the purpose of ISIS is to serve the Yinon Plan, the Wolfowitz Doctrine, and the Project for a New American Century, driven by dual citizens whose first allegiance is to Israel and zionism - with no regard for the blood and treasure of anyone else which they exploit ruthlessly.

Also, there was a coup d'etat on this day decades ago when JFK was assassinated. He refused nuclear weapons for Israel which has gained them illegally since then; he threatened to smash the CIA to smithereens after the Bay of Pigs fiasco; he issued U.S. currency backed by silver in accordance with the Constitution, outside the clutches of the international financiers and their private central banks, largely based in the City of London run by Rothschild, the sugar daddy for Israel. The currency which would have spared America its current debt woes was withdrawn shortly after his assassination.

It is wrong for anyone to misinterpret the meaning of JFK's intentions and actions which put America first, and a high regard for the Press which nowadays is mostly owned by merely 6 corporations with overlapping owners and foreign interests.

Those interests killed our Jack, and Rothschild's agent Rockefeller boasted in his memoirs that he does indeed serve the concept of a new world order, globalisation, and the USA is merely a pawn to be positioned accordingly - against the Constitution which Jack defended.

Here is our Jack in his own inimitable words:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8HTr-F-FVM

Meanwhile, the secret plots of  .gov and the expensive, expansive surveillance state merely invites Americans to do what those bureauRats, CONgress and their international financiers fail to do: defend the Constitution, and everyone's inalienable right to the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness.

The Jersey Boys allied with similar types in New England know how to defend our own. You don't like the mafia? You don't like Wasps? You want to blame the military for political failures which serve foreign interests?

You want servitude, living in fear of State terrorism, ISIS? Keep it in your own neighbourhood. Excuses and the blame game impress no one of sound mind, and body.

Baffle with bull$hit no longer works. God forgives all. I never forget the guilty.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 20:58 | 6825959 V for ...
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PS

Jack knew then what Putin has said recently: the Soviet apparatus was largely run by 'jews'; 85% of those who led the 1917 Revolution were those 'jews' who slaughtered tens of millions of Russian Christians in the most horrible, vindictive ways.

Lenin and Trotsky, for example, both beholden to international financiers who funded them, encouraged them.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn who escaped the soviet gulags said the 1917 Revolution was not Russian, and the hateful slaughter of Russians is the world's worst war crime, little known outside Russia because the perpetrators own most of the media.

So, before you defame the name of JFK, understand that he knew perfectly well how the secret societies were operated by a tightly knit cabal which would enslave all humankind if it could get away with it. He stopped Operation Northwoods plotted by them which involved State terrorist attacks to expedite political aims by those rootless cosmopolitans.

Those people are on the rampage now with their ISIS, and it is up to every good American to defend our own Constitution and communities, in my opinion.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:05 | 6825986 NubianSundance
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I hope ISIS/iSIL whatever don't get their hands on nukes. I think they might use thrm and I would be very annoyed if that happened.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:09 | 6825992 V for ...
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You should read more and write less if you fail to comprehend that the nukes are in the hands of those who founded, funded and train ISIS which is State sponsored terrorism, just so people like you are so very afraid all the time, and want someone anyone to save you even if it is the fascisti. You would lick the jackboot, apparently. Get off your knees or stay in hiding in your own neighbourhood.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 02:10 | 6826565 Otrader
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Hey V, please remember for every 1 person that knows who funds/founded ISIS, there is 99 that still get all their info from the TeeVee!  Physchological warfare at it's finest. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:36 | 6826231 Anunnaki
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America has the launch codes for Pakistan's nukes so if ISIS gets anuke it will have to come from one of their sponsors: Israel or Obamastan

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:19 | 6826001 steelrules
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First rule of bureaucrats and politicians, If your caught in a lie blame someone else.

Today is the 50th anniversary of JFK's assination, I would ask we honour him by watching this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97n-uqJC2Jw

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:44 | 6826099 V for ...
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We remember our Jack, a man of vision, courage, defying the war profiteers; defending the Constitution; respecting all people of every land. The haters killed him, and their coup d'etat is the results we see today: record debt, poverty, war, pornography.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:21 | 6826021 V for ...
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A new generation remembers the pain, the loss of those who were conscripted for rich men's wars, and this will not kill our own again on behalf of those who got out of their military service because they were well connected. While those elites were counting their gains, others sang and danced in order to relieve the pain of loss.

The Jersey Boys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObG9bBJFcIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfpm2I0dev8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqz9eyakGqY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8782KIj_rKw&list=PLMATWUx3t7L9fLtyU8ALdg...

 

We who remember will not let our communities die again for wasteful warmongers and their profits, serving foreign interests.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:27 | 6826050 Dickweed Wang
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Wasn't General David "slap on the wrist" Betray-us head of Centcom prior to his leaking classified documents to his mistress??  'Nuff said . . .

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:28 | 6826055 V for ...
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Correct. These overpaid asshats protect themselves first.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:30 | 6826208 Anunnaki
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Petraues called for using Al Qaeda to take down Shia govts in Iraq and Syria and then lo and behold

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:31 | 6826062 PoasterToaster
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Do these articles really need to say "America did this" and "America did that"?

The US Federal Government is not synonymous with America.  We see this more and more each day.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:39 | 6826082 V for ...
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Well spotted. The aim is to blame the people while the culprits profit. The aim is to pit nation against nation. The aim is to make the majority feel guilty for the heinous crimes of the few.

Get ready to defend your own neighbourhood, and ask a returning vet to assist before he kills himself first. More vets die of suicide from these unconstitutional wars than die in combat.

ISIS is state sponsored terrorism. All wars are banker wars, with the media apologists and political pets in tow.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:37 | 6826077 goldman58
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This little purple lipped fucking  liar in the White Castle is a real fucking scumbag

He gets away with murder and everything he touches he fucks up (has to be intentional)

Anyone that still supports him has to be retarded

America the Grand Experiment

GAME OVER!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:37 | 6826078 goldman58
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This little purple lipped fucking  liar in the White Castle is a real fucking scumbag

He gets away with murder and everything he touches he fucks up (has to be intentional)

Anyone that still supports him has to be retarded

America the Grand Experiment

GAME OVER!

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:42 | 6826090 Icelandicsaga.....
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I do not believe polcies toward Syria was devised by Pentagon, to some extent the CIA...even more so factions of State Dept who are carring out the general outline of plans made before end of Cold War and  immeciately after. Within 2 years of the fall of the Soviet Union, the elite policy magazines, some military related think tank white papers were already indicating the way forward with US as new hegemonic power. Not for one second do I believeva bunch of careerist ass kissers at Pentagon were deciding policy...that came from guys like Wolfowitz, Feith and others linked to big money, and aligned with creation of Western dominated new order. In that scenario China would be the factory floor, Russia would be the stupid slav bitch to raid for assets, and to eventually control   They are still after Russia, same as they are after Assad, but Pentagram and CIA are flunkies in that process of destroying nation states to replace with   whatever technocratic feudalistic central  control goverment they have in mind. How much does Obama know, really do not think he gives a shit, just one more POS puppet who will do the bidding of Deep State, powers that be, whatever you want to call it. Thst vlueless black general 5hat appeared before congress saying we have no real counter measures to fighg ISIS, was telling the truth..the truth being ISIS was an asset of the PTB..it got out of control, but in the end, the PTB think they can control it once Assad is out. Shi h is a fantasy. I csn only hope Vlad takes care of business, he is the onlynsane leader of a major   power we have...Obama is just a  clown who more or less does what he is told. The PTB and its controlled media, want to make the 2 easiest targets, Pentagon and CIA, the  primary culprits in this cluster.....but they are only the shock troops for the real demons behind whats going on in ME, and everywhere else...get some popcorn, have a beer or 20. This bad B movie is going to get worse.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 23:28 | 6826324 Freddie
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State Dept and See Eye Aye are pretty much the same thing,   Based on Con-grezz doing endless standing ovations for Bibi and Porky Poroshenko the evil genocide-ist in Kiev - we know who controls the show. 

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:43 | 6826097 Roanman
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Then of course you have the additional problem that the little fellow in the White House and the Neo Con Artists at the top of the Republican party are chronic liars as well.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:04 | 6826143 V for ...
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Not my problem anymore. They fckd up. They cost a lot of money. Northerners will defend our own by any means necessary, one neighbourhood at a time.

Try to understand the basis of Cosa Nostra in the north east and its Wasp friends who went to school together and our fathers fought together in WWII, Vietnam, the Korean War.

If state sponsored ISIS is let loose in our neighbourhoods, then there will be consequences for the individuals responsible.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:51 | 6826111 Kina
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The final result may end up being regime change in Saudi Arabia.

The quagmire in Syria now means there is little chance of USA/Isael/Saudi getting what they planned in trying to install their own pupper in Syria aka Ukraine.  And if China joins the fray well then it is stalemate.

US geopolitics comes straight from a MAD magazine. In the end they will be failing so badly they will try to escalate to the edge of major war.

It will curious if China launches missiles against ISIS aka Russia from ships 000s of kilometers away.

 

The message is clear - USA we can harm you on your own land. AND once Americans get it into their heads that escalated war will involve them at home they might have second thoughts about ignoring US global activities.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:11 | 6826166 V for ...
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Oh, reeeeallly? Exaggeration intended. Sort out your own place and stop begging the USA for money or military. Send that message to your own .gov, central bank  and bureauRats.

We ordinary Americans will be better off without .gov plots serving your foreign interests first. Capiche?

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 21:55 | 6826134 Kina
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Obama like most Presidents is there to dress up, strutt and feel good about himself, whilst others are running and controling everything. Thats the deal - you get to play President dress up so long as you agree to 'stay out of it'

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 02:04 | 6826558 Otrader
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And, if you don't, you'll be JFK'd.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:13 | 6826171 Joe Sixpack
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James Clapper seems to have no compuction aginst lying ot Congress. Why not to everyone else?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/01/27/darrell-iss...

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 22:34 | 6826223 V for ...
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Clapper is untrustworthy:

A quick online search by anyone reveals his war profiteering:

In October 2006 as chief operating officer for the British military intelligence company Detica, now DFI and US-based subsidiary of BAE Systems, also SRA International and Booz Allen Hamilton.

Clapper defended the private sector's role in his 2010 confirmation hearings: "I worked as a contractor for six years myself, so I think I have a good understanding of the contribution that they have made and will continue to make."

See the British connection and that name Booz Allen Hamilton as well. See his liking for private mercenaries; thugs for hire to the highest bidder.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 23:19 | 6826308 squid
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Clapper should be rotting in Levenworth for purgury and yet, here we are.

 

Squid

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 00:46 | 6826460 Abaco
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His head should be on a pike on one of the bridges from VA to DC.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 23:12 | 6826294 HoserF16
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You'ld be amazed what some people will do to get their next promotion.... They would sell their souls and their mother's soul to get what they want.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 23:42 | 6826358 PrimalScream
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I think the US public is wondering two basic things ...

1.  Why didn't the US Air Force destroy ALL of the ISIS fuel tankers in the first week of the "war against ISIS"?  Because now that we see (from Russian images) that the ISIS lunatics actually leave their tankers parked in rows ... it was a cakewalk to destroy all of them.  H*ll, one squadron of P-51 Mustang's from World War II could have destroyed most of the ISIS fuel tankers.

2.  Why is Turkey still a member of NATO????

good questions.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 23:49 | 6826376 napper
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I don't think the US public is wondering about those two things, not the majority of them anyway.

 

For those who are informed enough to ask the questions, they already got the answer a long time ago - ISIS was founded, funded and trained in part by the US, its NATO lapdogs, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and some other ME nations.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 02:03 | 6826555 Otrader
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+1 napper. After talking about ISIS to family, co-workers, and friends, they look at me like I'm crazy.  "But, I heard on TV that..."  It's fuc**n hopeless.  They always lose me after I explain the following: "The globalists in the .01% are borderless."

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 23:43 | 6826363 Polymarkos
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Obama won't believe the truth if it doesn't his narrative. That he's replaced good generals with cronies who'll lie to him to fit his narrative, well, that's Obama's own fault.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 23:50 | 6826377 Surveyor4Pres
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Anyone who thinks that the intelligence community is lying to Obama, needs to check themselves.

Obama and Valerie Jarrett are controlling the narratives.  And Obama has replaced every General with YES MEN.

The only people that the CIA, Langley, and the Pentagon are lying to, are the American public.  And they have the media in their pocketbooks, literally, too.

Yes, even FOX NEWS, who is the supremely controlled opposition mouthpiece.

The headline of this article irks me to no end.  Grow up ZH.

Sun, 11/22/2015 - 23:56 | 6826388 ToSoft4Truth
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'Cover-up' means building with evidence go boom.

Cover up, fellas – with lead blankies.  

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 00:01 | 6826393 Surveyor4Pres
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The true, real, overall play of Obama, Soros, and Jarrett, is to destroy America from within.  Which is treason.  Which is punishable by...well, you know.

So whilst all the news organizations slither and slather for coverage over the next Paris event, Obama quietly improves his national police force and quietly sneaks in his next 10,000 "refugees".  All of the world-wide jihadi attacks are just cover.

How many stories about "exercises" (illegal ones at that) have we seen, where military helicopters are flying through, over, and around cities?  How many illegal exercises are being conducted (like JADE HELM)?

All of this is gearing up for the time, soon, when the federal government will come in and declare Martial Law throughout the USA, and will suspend our RIGHTS and destroy our liberty in the name of "security" and protection from the "enemies" that THEY created!  That is the BIG PLAY here.

And how is it exactly that the Federal government, by law or decree, has decided that if you owe back taxes, they can suspend or take away or deny a passport?  That is, folks, they can take away YOUR RIGHT OF FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT.  What if they said they could take away your RIGHT to possess a gun, due to owing back taxes?  What then?

When are you people going to wake up and realize that Barack Insane Obama and his cronies, and the banksters, are replacing each one of your rights with the 10 pillars of the Communist Manifesto?

WAKE THE FUCK UP, PEOPLE!

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 00:13 | 6826411 onmail1
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<--- America is a terrorist state

American constitution allows terrorism (article II section 2 clause 1) 

 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 01:57 | 6826544 KashNCarry
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American constitution allows terrorism (article II section 2 clause 1)

Okay, now explain how

The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

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