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Carsonnochio Strikes Again - "Walks Back" Comments He Saw Muslims Cheering On 9/11

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As Donald Trump came under fire for claiming that he saw Muslims in New Jersey cheering on 9/11, admitted-non-total-truth-speaker Ben Carson jumped on the bandwagon claiming he too "saw film of it." Now, in yet another embarrassing u-turn 'oops' for the retired (now it all makes sense) neurosurgeon, the Carson campaign told CBS News Monday evening that Carson is "really not" standing behind his earlier statement and that the GOP presidential candidate was thinking of other footage he saw.

Caught on tape...

As CBS News reports,

Ben Carson is walking back comments he made earlier Monday in which he claimed that he saw Muslims cheering in New Jersey during television news coverage of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

 

The Carson campaign told CBS News Monday evening that Carson is "really not" standing behind his earlier statement and that the GOP presidential candidate was thinking of the "ample" news footage he watched of celebrations from the Middle East after 9/11.

 

Earlier in the day Monday at a rally in Pahrump, Nevada, Carson was asked if Muslims were cheering on 9/11 when the Twin Towers fell.

 

"Yes," said Carson, who was then asked to elaborate further. "Well, you know, there are going to be people who respond inappropriately to virtually everything. I think that was an inappropriate response. I don't know if on the basis of that you can say all Muslims are bad people; I really think that would be a stretch."

 

Asked once more to confirm exactly what footage he saw, Carson said he witnessed Muslims cheering on "newsreels" during coverage of the attacks and confirmed it was shot in New Jersey.

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One wonders where the red line will stop?

 

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Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:12 | 6829393 km4
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How the influence of Saudi Arabia sowed the seeds of radicalism in Belgium http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-attacks-how-the-inf...

A deal established in 1967 between Belgium’s King Baudouin and Saudi King Faisal may provide some answers

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:32 | 6829479 Noplebian
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US Gives Their Proxy Army ISIS 45 Minute Warning Before Air Strikes......

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:35 | 6829494 Baby Bladeface
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This story today already on zerohedge posted.

So now you endeavour across all articles to spam it on the comments like already done to M&M story?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:40 | 6829509 Occident Mortal
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How come the bookmakers have Rubio such a huge favourite?

 

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/us-politics?ev_oc_...

 

Is this free money? The nomination is just 5 months away now and Trump is/has crushed it. He is miles and miles ahead.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:57 | 6829792 Vatican_cameo
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Since Juan Ellis Bush is a done deal, Rubio is the next best Establishment candidate.  They'll push him just like they did Romney.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:33 | 6829911 macholatte
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Not a difficult thing to obtain... not difficult at all.

 

Palestinians Celebrating 9/11 Attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMOZvbYJMvU

 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:00 | 6829989 jeff montanye
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palestinians yes.  but carson and trump were saying arab-americans, specifically in new jersey, which both the media and the police deny.  http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261044-trump-doub...

now israelis, albeit not thousands of them, in new jersey celebrating, that actually happened.  there are contemporaneous police arrest records of that as well as follow up israeli television broadcasts.  that this is not part of every story about this snafu on u.s. arabs is why our press are now called presstitutes even though that slurs whores.  http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:43 | 6830814 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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Trump will claim he mis-spoke and retract. He will then correct himself and state that it was not Arabs, but Israelis who were caught celebrating. Then America will see that Israel had prior knowledge. Trump will re-awaken the 9/11 dragon, get the truthers and the anti-'banksters' on board, and win a landslide.

He knows kerosene doesn't melt steel. He will use his knowledge of New York real estate (and everyone involved therein) to get the presidency.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 00:12 | 6830213 Augustus
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When the Press Attacks Donald Trump, the Truth Is Optional [Updated]

In recent days Donald Trump has caught flak for several ostensibly anti-Muslim comments. Among them was his statement that he saw thousands of Muslims in Jersey City celebrating after the twin towers collapsed on September 11, 2001.

 

So NPR, the New York Times and the Associated Press searched contemporaneous news accounts and could find no evidence of Muslim-Americans cheering in Jersey City. That’s odd. Because it took me less than two minutes to find this story from the Washington Post dated September 18, 2001 (although I did have to spend $3.95 to buy it from the Post’s archives):

In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.

 

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 03:52 | 6830535 john.smith
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It does not say they are Muslim

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 00:17 | 6830227 putaipan
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s'funny the only lage muslim rally i can remember was the HUGE  candle light vigil in solidarity in tehran, iran, 9/12/01

of course, that;s been scrubbed fron the net for years. i've tried exhaustively to find it anywhere

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 01:21 | 6830344 ShortCommonSense
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I didn't find video of it, but I found it fairly well documented.  Thanks for pointing that out.  Really helps the case for Iran not being what the US gov't says they are.

https://photosiran.wordpress.com/2015/06/20/irans-exceptional-reaction-to-911-attacks-candlelit-vigils-for-the-victims-and-60k-soccer-fans-respected-a-minutes-silence-2/

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:36 | 6829498 TeamDepends
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If you can bounce back from this Dr. Carson, maybe you are the right man for the job. But we will welcome you as Surgeon General.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:43 | 6829522 Redneck Hippy
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At least Carson is walking it back.  Trump is doubling down on this fantasy.  Is it better if you admit that you're schizophrenic?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:05 | 6829605 DeadFred
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Carson has proven he is on a par with Hilary since walking back a comment about an event over a decade ago is completely equivalent to erasing a hard drive the FBI has asked you to turn over. See  they're all the same. /s

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:14 | 6829399 WillyGroper
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Reminds me more of nein, nein, nein everyday.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:15 | 6829403 LetThemEatRand
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He's probably thinkiing of that footage of some Isrealis who just happened to be on location, cheering after 9/11.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:18 | 6829419 nmewn
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We're going to have to stop meeting like this...lol.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:22 | 6829447 LetThemEatRand
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Took me a minute but then saw your post below.  Great minds think alike.

The funny thing is that he probably really was thinking about those Israeli guys.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:29 | 6829470 Main_Sequence
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Carson is a fucking sideshow.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:43 | 6829523 BurningFuld
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Not all his dogs are barkin'.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:50 | 6829975 BarkingCat
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No, some are licking their balls.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:20 | 6829435 yomutti
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Wackoism.

 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:36 | 6829495 Baby Bladeface
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Here you in the ass, and rush to escape velocity...

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:55 | 6829560 JuliaS
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I remember on 9/11 watching live coverage on television and clips, supposedly from the Middle East, of people celebrating the twin towers collapse. Random crowds of Muslims just dancing around, with no identifiable location or date attributed. My old mother just looked at them and said: "Who knows what those people are cheering. This might as well be an old video of some guests at a wedding. Regardless, that will not stop us from bombng them." And oh how right she was 14 years ago.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:15 | 6829852 willwork4food
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God Bless your Mother. She had more smarts than me at the time and 99% of the US population.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 01:02 | 6830311 Kiwi Pete
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I thought exactly that when I read his comment. But he won't walk it back that far and say "Oh no , my bad. That was the Israelies dancing while the towes burned." That would be off message and way to truthful!

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:16 | 6829408 loveyajimbo
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Great.  Another inexperienced narcissistic black  liar who wants to be Emperor.

 

TRUMP  2015  Flush the walking yeast infection HillaRoid.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:09 | 6830025 jeff montanye
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i'm thinking it's white men you're ok with.

trump made the same claim repeatedly, the only difference being carson is apparently susceptible to reality based argument casting doubt on the claim while trump is immune.

trump's main campaign issue seems to be hatred toward "foreigners", rather loosely defined. 

it may work.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:17 | 6829414 nmewn
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Maybe he got confused about the dancing jooo's "the truthers" are always going on about and thought they were muslims.

Hey, they all look alike to a black dude, right? ;-)

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:26 | 6829461 NotApplicable
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It was that, PLUS the actual dancing muslims that was on the news afterward. The muslims were in the Middle East though (Iraq?), and a week or so later, the truth emerged that this footage wasn't even from 9/11.

I wonder which CIABS-type person put that on the broadcast?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:34 | 6829491 nmewn
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Careful, you'll be accused of being a "denier" ;-)

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:43 | 6829525 NotApplicable
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Hard to deny the activities of the molders of disinfo. Who knew that reality* was just one big psyop?

*One's most plausible belief system.

Thankfully there's alcohol.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:17 | 6829862 willwork4food
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It's hard not to get a hard on for those bastards and destroy any peacefull calm & gratitude that needs to be in everyone's diet each day.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 00:24 | 6830244 Ness.
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Until someone tells the truth about WT7 this is going to get much worse for everyone.  Publish the 28 pages.  

OT The John Hancock building (steel high-rise) in Chicago caught fire on Saturday.  Burned for hours.  Only five injured.  The structure never wavered.

 

http://abc7chicago.com/news/fire-breaks-out-on-50th-floor-of-hancock-cen...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 01:11 | 6830317 gladius17
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"Until someone tells the truth about WT7 this is going to get much worse for everyone. "

The truth has already been told. Nobody who has not already told the truth is planning to step forward to do so. Unless it suits their interests to tell some half truth that is twisted to fit some agenda. The whole, honest truth is not on their agenda.

"Publish the 28 pages.  "

Does not follow. Who is to say the "28 pages" are truth? We all know what they say: "Saudi Arabia did 9/11." That's why it was waved around in public last year (or was it the year before? Hard to keep track) in the form of a "senator who read the pages and was horrified", at a time when the Saudis were not wanting to play ball with the Establishment agenda. I seem to recall them hurriedly jumping back on board with said agenda shortly afterwards.

 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:49 | 6829548 Oldwood
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I'm sure they are right and the Muslims actually all love us terribly and profess such every day at prayers. I have no doubt of it. It's just silly that we would think Muslims would take glee at the suffering of an infidel. What's really odd though is that over 50% of Muslims in America polled felt that their mosques were not adequately reactive to radical elements, which means that at least 50% like us, right? So much for that poison M&Ms theory.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:22 | 6829664 nmewn
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Well, thats the thing, all muslims aren't terrorists (obviously) but just about all terrorist acts are comitted by muslims.

Its a different culture & religion.

"We" (in the west) pick on baptists, atheists, jooos, catholics etc. equally and no one straps a bomb on. Its well known (or should be) that a fellow muslim will NOT make a big stink out of that, the occasional "Oh yes, thats hoorendous, that doesn't represent Islam or who muslims are!" and thats the end of it.

Our religion is a part of who we are, theirs is actually who they are, they can't (en masse) actively condemn their own, only in short bursts for appeasement...or fear...take your pick. 

When I see a "Million Muslim March" against jihadists...lol...I'll willingly eat my words.

Just ain't gonna happen.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:34 | 6829698 Billy the Poet
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but just about all terrorist acts are comitted by muslims.

 

Documentation?

 

Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil

 

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/muslims-only-carried-out-2-5-perc...

 

 

When I see a "Million Muslim March" against jihadists...lol...I'll willingly eat my words.

 

‘Not in my name’ – Italy’s Muslims rally against terrorism

 

http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2015/11/23/not-in-my-name-italys-mus...

 

Muslim-majority Malaysia blasts IS as evil terrorists, calls for defeating its ideology

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/20/muslim-majority-malaysia-blasts-...

 

 

 

Muslim-majority Malaysia blasts IS as evil terrorists, calls for defeating its ideology
Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:35 | 6829719 nmewn
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I'm sure Putin reads or cares about what GW has to say on his blog.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:38 | 6829726 Billy the Poet
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Yeah, that FBI report he cited is just a conspiracy theory. But I see you haven't provide any documentation of your own whatsoever.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:41 | 6829734 nmewn
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"Under the banner “Not in my name,” >>>hundreds<<< gathered in a square in the centre of the Italian capital..."

You should try and actually read the links that you post.

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Malaysia's leader on Saturday denounced the Islamic State as an "evil" terrorist group, saying his Muslim-majority country is ready to join others to defeat it."

And how many took to the streets in support of him?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:57 | 6829763 Billy the Poet
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You will never see if you don't look.

.

 

 

 

This time, Paris Muslims find unified voice in condemning terror attacks

 

http://mashable.com/2015/11/22/paris-attacks-muslims-unified-voice/#aO56...

 

 

Muslims Around the World Speak Out Against Terrorist Attacks in Paris

 

http://time.com/4112830/muslims-paris-terror-attacks-islam-condemn/

 

Not in Our Name: Muslims Unite Against Terrorism

 

http://abcnews.go.com/International/photos/muslims-unite-terrorisms-3528...

 

 

Triangle Muslims call for stand against terrorism and hate

 

http://abc11.com/news/triangle-muslims-call-for-stand-against-terrorism-...

 

 

 

Mahmood Madni urge Muslims to declare Jihad against terrorism

 

http://www.dailypioneer.com/state-editions/lucknow/mahmood-madni-urge-mu...

 

 

 

Build up strong movement against terrorism: Muslim Federation

 

http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/build-up-strong-movement-against-terrorism...

 

 

Upstate Muslims condemn terror attacks, hold unity rally

 

http://www.wyff4.com/news/upstate-muslims-condemn-terror-attacks-plan-un...

 

 

 

Clerics at influential dargah to run signature campaign against terror

 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bareilly/Clerics-at-influential-...

 

 

 

American-Muslims gather at White House to reject terrorism

 

 

http://wjla.com/news/local/muslim-rally-at-white-house-condemns-terrorism

 

Kiwi Muslims stand against violence, call for global response

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11545786

 

 

Sultan urges Islamic leaders to educate youths against terrorism 
 http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/sultan-urges-islamic-leaders-t...

 

NY Muslims condemn terrorists at Times Square rally

 

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/ny-muslims-condemn-terrorists-at-ti...

 

 

 

Paris Terror Attacks: Irish Muslim leaders condemn senseless bloodshed

 

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/paris-terror-attacks-irish-mus...

 

 

Muslims against ISIS gather up on the steps of Lincoln Memorial this Friday at 3:00 PM

 

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/muslims-against-isis-gather-up-o...

 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:58 | 6829793 nmewn
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So they're just going to turn "their brothers" into the cops, is that what you're saying?...lol...again...it's against "their religion" to turn them over to any "infidel".

I wish "your crusade" all the luck in the world with that.

But if they just kill them thats ok by me too, that may be an easy out for all concerned ;-)

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:04 | 6829812 Billy the Poet
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Your inability to rectify errors in your thinking is a far greater liability for you than it is for me. It only costs me a few minutes of research time in order to refute you while you have to go through life making decisions based on the false assumptions to which you cleave with great tenacity.

 

"The other terror that scares us from self-trust is our consistency; a reverence for our past act or word, because the eyes of others have no other data for computing our orbit than our past acts, and we are loath to disappoint them...A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."  -- Emerson's Self Reliance

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:08 | 6829825 nmewn
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You have refuted nothing, there is no "Million Muslim March" and there never will be.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:30 | 6829834 Billy the Poet
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No, there is no individual "Million Muslim March." (and if there was you'd be on full terror alert condemning it) but millions around the world have spoken out. You can continue to pretend that that isn't so but you're only fooling your self, my little hobgoblin.

 

Muslims and other faiths unite in Huddersfield to condemn terrorism

 

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/muslims-faiths-unite-...

 

French Muslim calls on to stop terrorism, video goes viral

 

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/513494/french-muslim-calls-stop-terr...

 

 

LI Muslims decry terrorism

 

http://longisland.news12.com/news/li-muslims-decry-terrorism-living-in-f...

 

 

Local Arab Spokesman Calls For United Stand Against Terrorism

 

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/11/15/local-arab-spokesman-terrorism/

 

 

Madrasas run a fatwa campaign against IS in Bareilly

 

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/madrasas-run-a-fatwa-...

 

 

Muslim group in Devon condemns Paris attackers who "go against the fundamental teachings of Islam" http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/8203-Muslim-group-Devon-condemns-Pari...

 

 

Gathering at NCRI headquarters in solidarity with the people of France

 

http://www.ncr-iran.org/en/ncri-statements/terrorism-fundamentalism/1952...

 

 

Community leaders urge united front against terrorism during event at one of district's biggest mosques

 

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/14093435.Community_leaders_ur...

 

 

Finland’s Muslim communities shocked by Paris attacks

 

http://yle.fi/uutiset/finlands_muslim_communities_shocked_by_paris_attac...

 

 

In Neighborhood Tied To Paris Attackers, Muslims Rally Against ISIS

 

http://peconicpublicbroadcasting.org/post/neighborhood-tied-paris-attack...

 

 

NJ Muslim groups condemn Paris attacks as ‘despicable acts’

http://nj1015.com/nj-muslim-groups-condemn-paris-attacks-as-despicable-a...

 

 

Jamiat Ulama leads protest against ISIS in Bhopal

http://www.hindustantimes.com/bhopal/jamiat-ulama-leads-protest-against-...

 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:34 | 6829916 nmewn
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Well I can appreciate all the jawboning politicians & imams prancing about in righteous indignation in your links but...Putin is actually killing the fuck out of them.

Which is just fine with me.

Sooo...ummm, I should cancel my food & drink booth at the Million Muslim March then?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:35 | 6829921 Billy the Poet
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You should laugh it up. It's all you've got.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:44 | 6829957 nmewn
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Really?

Ok...care to explain?

"Allah's Messenger said: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it."

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:50 | 6829969 Billy the Poet
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Only after you explain why Jews and Christians kill as the Bible commands. And only after you show me the Million White Man March which condemned the OK City bombing.

You love to make others jump through hoops that you can't jump through yourself. I've provided you lots of citations to support my position in this thread and you have provided none.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:58 | 6829980 nmewn
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Its Jahiliyya isn't it...why won't you admit what it is? 

Yes or no Crockett...

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....run out of links?

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So back on Malaysia, care to splain how Muslims came to be...there?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:05 | 6830015 Billy the Poet
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Still no documentation from you at all. Lots from me. I want to thank you for motivating me to find dozens of stories in which Muslims condemn terrorism. I'll use that list over and over again here. Quite useful.

And now I'm back to The Miracle of Moragn's Creek starring Eddie Bracken and Betty Hutton.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:18 | 6830054 jeff montanye
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great film.  for me you got the best of him.  he's got a soft spot for israel that just won't quit.

the thing about terrorism, if you've got an air force and a clandestine service, you don't need terrorism as much as the less well armed.

before israel was israel some zionist jews dressed up as arabs and bombed the king david hotel.  same outfit menachem begin, another nobel peace prize war criminal like obama, worked for. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 05:55 | 6830708 Kobe Beef
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Dude, niggers do this "March against Violence" crap all the time

It's called Public Relations. It changes nothing.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 01:16 | 6830332 gladius17
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There is no compulsion in religion.
-- Quran 2:256

Say, "The truth is from your Lord": Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject it"
-- Quran 18:29

And if your Lord had pleased, surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them; will you then force men till they become believers?
-- Quran 10:99

For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.
-- Quran 109:6

Therefore do remind, for you are only a reminder. You are not a watcher over them;
-- Quran 88:21

He said, "O my people have you considered: if I should be upon clear evidence from my Lord while He has given me mercy from Himself but it has been made unapparent to you, should we force it upon you while you are averse to it?
-- Quran 11:28

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:51 | 6829775 Redneck Hippy
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When Dylann Roof walked into a church and killed nine black worshippers, that was not terrorism?

Did we ask all white Christians to condemn this act of terrorism or did we take it for granted that Dylann wasn't necessarily acting on their behalf?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:08 | 6829822 Vatican_cameo
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Maybe, if it wasn't actually a "False Flag" event. 

I also don't believer that during this "alleged" shooting that he was attempting to convert them to Christianity.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:08 | 6829824 Billy the Poet
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The aftermath of that incident was telling. The press and politicians turned the Confederate flag into the new Koran. Anyone who would dare be associated with it must be condemned without trial. This is all part of the elite's plan to set those with traditional values (including Muslims and conservative Christians) against each other so that a new order may come into being.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:47 | 6829877 nmewn
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Dylan Roof was a nutcase, not a terrorist. Let's try to stay within the bounds of sanity shall we?

There is no...as in zero...WHITE CHRISTIAN MALE who condones or even contemplates sitting with other CHRISTIANS for over an hour in communion and then gets up and says to himself...yep...just as I thought...you all have to die.

He's as "Christian" as Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 01:21 | 6830343 gladius17
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The only problem is the fake Christians outnumber the good Christians at least 3:1.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:56 | 6829572 TeamDepends
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Hey, they were merely a bunch of dudes who worked for an artisanal moving company celebrating after a hard days work. The fact that the mural on the side of their truck showed the twin towers with a jet "behind" them is but a coinkidink. They were doing their "we're smarter than you" jig.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:18 | 6829415 Dr. Engali
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As a brain surgeon he was brilliant. He's a little rough around the edges when it comes to being a politician. Don't worry, he'll get his stories polished in no time.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:56 | 6829575 Oldwood
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Lots of brain surgeons here on ZH to best judge his intelligence.

I think the most important quality we require in a president is someone who can lie effortlessly, who regardless of their knowledge or opinion can respond to any query with a topical but off subject response that emotes passion without really saying anything material. These guys running in the republican primary actually think they are supposed to answer the question, questions in many cases where those asking care not even a little bit what the answer is unless it can be turned against the candidate....something the democrats will never have to worry about as they never even submit themselves to anyone who would ever consider asking such a thing. If we recall, while Obama lampoons the republicans for their complaining about debate forums, He refused to even attend a debate held by Fox News...no way Jose. It's not that they are so much smarter, they just own the press and can do what they want.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:54 | 6829784 Redneck Hippy
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Democrats own the press?  The press in America is owned almost entirely by large corporations with management and shareholders who are largely corporate Republicans.  In what America are you living in>

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:17 | 6830053 Oldwood
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you should get out more. Your media indoctrination is complete. Tell us again how many or what percentage of the talking heads we see and hear everyday vote republican?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:38 | 6829730 blindman
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if he was a brilliant brain surgeon why
is he in the sewer we call politics?
did he have a brain fart?
does he have any patients who survived
with any neurological function?
i ask because i really do not know.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:15 | 6830041 Oldwood
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not eveyone is as hopeless as the typical ZHrs. some people still think it can be saved.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 01:23 | 6830347 gladius17
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And so we return to the original question: is he retarded?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:26 | 6829441 Yen Cross
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 My Mother, God bless her soul. We were  shopping few weeks back , and discussing the GOP candidates.

 I asked her about Ben Carson, and she "point blank" said to me he's just odd, and she didn't trust his fake calm persona.

 A few days later we learn he tried to stab his Mother in the head, and that he lied in his book about continuing education.

 Then, I'm seeing all these cheese whiz companies he's done endorsements for, and some malpractice suits, and  just start laughing.

 I guess Mom was right. ;-)

 P.S. Carson looks like a sunburnt sleestak from the "Land of The Lost", when he speaks.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:49 | 6829546 Baby Bladeface
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Marshall Will and Holly and a routine expedition...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnBSuBHVZbc

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:35 | 6829728 Yen Cross
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 Smiles... Someone gets my humor.

 Eight Weeks and Three days?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:30 | 6830106 Baby Bladeface
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"

Eight Weeks and Three days?"

This time. Priorly nearly 4.5 years was.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 03:16 | 6830481 Yen Cross
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Okay., NOT

 Probably/

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:26 | 6829465 USGrant
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I read something to that effect at the time. Somebody has the footage.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:29 | 6829471 Arthur Schopenhauer
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So let me get this straight: Ben Carson is an idiot because he supported Donald Trump's claim?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:12 | 6829630 Volkodav
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Not at all

Trump did see  

Carson stands alone squirreley statements

This guy is trouble     

 

 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:01 | 6829804 Arthur Schopenhauer
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Oh yeah. Trump did see. You're an idiot.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 01:26 | 6830352 gladius17
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Is that some

strange kind  of Russian

haiku, friend?

 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:29 | 6829472 yomutti
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#BlackCluelessnessMatters

 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:34 | 6829488 kingvaclav
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Confusing innocent Muslims with dancing Israelis just about describes it all: Zionist Occupied Government (ZOG)

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:35 | 6829493 devo
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Trump and Carson are doing this dog and pony show so you get Jeb. End of story.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:40 | 6829501 Mr. Schmilkies
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Plenty of Muslim radical extremists, or even just plain Allah-fearing Muslims, here and abroad, tacitly or openly approved of the 9/11 attacks.  There doesn't have to be video of that to know it's true.   It's just not PC to say that of course.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:09 | 6829619 DeadFred
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Yeah, I don't need a video when I saw it on 9/11 in the afternoon up close.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 20:43 | 6829524 Usurious
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Im looking for a current/updated list of dual citizens working for .gov.........

this list is a bit dated....

http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:00 | 6829587 MFL8240
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I dont give a shit who Trump says he saw walking in front of him, it could be the boggie man,  I am still voting for him.  I want this trash out of the White House and I want the trash out of DC and never again do I want to see the face of Hillary the liar progressive again!

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:08 | 6829823 coast
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get rid of the old trash for the "new and improved" trash...how about not participating at all for the bankers choices. How about getting a life?   trump is "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" but so many WILL get fooled again...wafe the frick up

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:01 | 6829592 sooner_gold
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A politician that admits a mistake, Hire him!

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:13 | 6829636 blindman
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https://kendoc911.wordpress.com/disinfo-palestinians-cheering-the-911-at...
.
is bullshit just too ubiquitous for any human
soul to discern? ahhh, just make the dope the
executive branch commander in chief in the endless
war on poverty and everything else related to
a problem for oligarchy. ......

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:15 | 6829641 coast
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I am at the point where I would support Rand Paul if I were to support anyone...BUt I wont support anyone but me.  Trump has proved to be part of the problem, and carson is an idiot...Hopefully Rand just got along with israel to get in the door, hopefully he will be convicted by his dad, but now I feel Rand is the lesser of the evils...anyone to say they saw muslims dancning and not the jews who were dancing is a traitor to the american people...peroid.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 01:27 | 6830355 gladius17
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"ME FOR PRESIDENT 2016"

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:20 | 6829653 CHoward
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I remember personally seeing videos of Muslims cheering the fall of the twin towers - so did millions of other people. 

 

TRUMP 2016  TRUMP 2016  TRUMP 2016  TRUMP 2016

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:33 | 6829712 blindman
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before you go any further let
me remind you that people who
are persuaded by videos are little
more than morons and sheep, herded
by the production company. my guess,
you already know that.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:18 | 6830056 Oldwood
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So what has persuded you...the internet?

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:23 | 6829672 coast
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NO muslims have hurt me yet...not a one...my pain comes from the rothchild zionists...the banking cartels etc..they are making my life so miserable I want to send them to another planet...Why dont we focus on the rothchild zionists and get to the extreme jihad muslim whatever later...but trump and carson wont say that because they are part of it...After Ron Paul, there is no hope...If only his son would listen to his dad.  screw all of them including trump.. you people supporting trump are like the people supporting obama for hope and change etc...wake the frick up...its all a matris and you are falling for it.  again.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:32 | 6829705 nmewn
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Revenge is dish best served cold.

To all my progressive friends, enjoy your federally mandated AK47 purchase and you will be forced to check off a box on your federal tax form saying you have it under penalty "the law".

Warmest, personal, regards.

nmewn...let-it-burn

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:33 | 6829715 Infinite QE
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Ben Carson makes Obama seem truthful. A lying SOB if there ever was one.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 21:56 | 6829788 SSRI Junkie
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i feel sorry for carson, he seems like a good guy. obola ruined it for any black person until that stain is washed away, if ever

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:25 | 6829886 coast
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obama is half black..not that we here the truth much...He was also a manchurian candidate, groomed from the beginning...if there is another president it will be who the bankers allow...After reading comments I realize now even the smarter ones who visit ZH are brainwashed and do not have a clue. It is a circus. and the banksters who own and control everything have many of you in their RAT maze, and are laughing at you...yet again...wake the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    trump is the new "republican" obama...and those who are disgusted with themselves for voting for obama will be the same ones who support another candidate like trump...same ol same ol...some things never change...

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:22 | 6830071 Oldwood
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We are all in the same maze. Some have different perspectives of it, but we must all live within it to some degree. Our participation, our contributions to it may vary, but I doubt any of us can actually escape it.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:12 | 6829838 Goldilocks
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Ben Carson Drops Truth Bomb About Planned Parenthood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzjP59ZXt4E (1:16)

Dr. Ben Carson on 'Black Lives Matter,' Planned Parenthood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDThDZMcOMM (10:01)

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:17 | 6829860 coast
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people looking for a savior...they do little on their own, they want someone else to do it...I do it myself..I have gotten off grid for the most part, and worked hard many years to do it. no debt, and I wont support anyone who is on tv.  tv ignored Ron Paul, and that is why I supported him.  get real people, its all a circus. They did the obama thing and now they do nothing more than use you as RATS in a cage and they change the maze and where the cheese is and watch you and laugh...when are you going to understand this? wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:17 | 6829861 NoWayJose
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It's easy to sound smart when you can study, layout everything you need, and operate in a controlled environment where you are the supreme commander. It is much harder when you have to speak on-the-fly and get bombarded every day with trick questions by a hostile media.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 22:23 | 6829883 tunetopper
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What is so hard to understand about Carson's mistake? He remembered the "dancing" and celebrating of some middle easterners on a newsreel from 14 years ago, why should it be considered a mistake whether they were Israelis or Muslims? Even if they were Ashkenazi, from Germany.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 03:42 | 6829931 3Wishes
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Cheering Jews and Muslims, All the same, Crazy MF's

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:00 | 6830005 CitizenPete
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I remember the confirmed reports of the dancing cheering Israelis on the roof top filming the 2nd plane hitting the 2nd tower. Mossad Victory dance?

http://youtu.be/0-B2J7tp8eg

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:30 | 6830064 Cabreado
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Carson is a good man, with good intentions, who has no chance of getting close to the presidency.

But,

"...for the retired (now it all makes sense) neurosurgeon"

very lame, very shallow, very political, ZH.

Too bad.

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:38 | 6830132 onmail1
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I am sad that there was 9/11 in America

There should have been Tsar Bomba

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 00:14 | 6830147 Arthur Schopenhauer
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The Statue of Liberty was originally a Muslim 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ogLzBOZ31M

 

In historian Michael B. Oren's book, "Power, Faith, and Fantasy: America in the Middle East: 1776 to the Present," he reveals the history of the Statue of Liberty. Lady Liberty was originally conceived as a Muslim peasant woman who would stand at the Suez Canal, ushering progress into the Middle East and Asia. When Egypt couldn't afford the statue, the sculptor re-imagined it for America. It became the Statue of Liberty, which is ironic considering America's latest attempts to block Syrian Muslims from entering.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:08 | 6830730 Kobe Beef
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Yeah, you're right. There's like 6 billion people with a lower standard of living than Americans. And discrimination is wrong. So we should let them all in. 

Mon, 11/23/2015 - 23:52 | 6830165 acetinker
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Carson has never experienced the world stage.  He, as I would be is bewildered by this newfound notoriety.  He's no different from any other successful Fundie, but he's fucked up royally by exposing his personal, spiritual beliefs.

He's no more a nutjob than Clinton or Trump, he's just naive.

The former are professional liars.  It's what they do.  Carson honestly believes in his personal version of voodoo.

Hard to decide which is worse, ain't it?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 00:18 | 6830230 dsty
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It ain't voodoo

Hopefully you will figure it out before it is too late

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 03:11 | 6830487 Grandad Grumps
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If he had said that he saw Israelis cheering it on, then he would have been correct. All of us saw the tapes of NuttyYahoo saying 9/11 was very good for Israel.

We also heard the stories of the dancing Israelis who filmed it and then saw their interviews on Israeli TV.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 03:11 | 6830485 Grandad Grumps
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I almost said that Carson is giving Hitlery and Obunger a run for their money ... but nah, he is not even in the same league with those two full retard liars.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 03:14 | 6830493 Yen Cross
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 Agree. Is that you Dad?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 03:19 | 6830500 roddy6667
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He is going to "walk back" his statements about the pyramids being grain elevators. Seems he is confusing them with a movie called "Flour Power.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 03:26 | 6830509 KashNCarry
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If you can't dazzle them with brilliance...

baffle them with bull$hit!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:59 | 6831944 sam site
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It was Israelis who cheered the twin towers collapse.  It's all over utube.

 

Mossad and Bush Neocons engineered 9-11 but no one can talk about that. 

Just like Syria is all about defending the Petrodollar against an Assad/Iranian pipeline.

Both taboo subjects in the controlled media.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:21 | 6832577 Guinny_Ire
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I walked into the office that morning, parking garage was a block away, in time to turn on the tv, to see smoke pouring out of the first tower, and thought "some stupid cesna pilot flew into the World Trade Bldg". And seconds later saw the 2nd airliner crash into the other tower. Walking back to the car after work had a full on muslim, carrying what I assumed to be the Koran, pointed a finger and screamed at me in jibberish, but it did not seem sympathetic in the slightest. There may now be a voice that goes counter to the terrorists but I do not remember any then other than a few token voices put out on parade. I also understand if I was a member of a larger religion that took out extreme retribution I'd be hesitant about being vocal too.

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