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Is David Brooks Pushing For Another Vietnam?
Submitted by Chris Rossini via RonPaulLibertyReport.com,
A few years ago, New York Times columnist David Brooks wanted the U.S. government to wave its magic wand and turn the Syrian civil war into a Vietnam for Iran:
We should be trying to turn the Syrian civil war into Iran’s Vietnam. We should make them waste money and effort trying to back their client...I’m thinking that maybe it’s time for a more active U.S. role. I have no clue how to do that.
Brooks was apparently modest enough to admit that he had "no clue" as to how the U.S. should mold Syria to achieve such a nefarious goal.
Well, a few years have now gone by, and Brooks has experienced his eureka moment! He apparently tuned into a warmongering speech from Hillary Clinton and now (at long last) has a clue:
Clinton...gestured to the reality that you can’t really deal with ISIS unless you are also willing to deal with Assad. Assad is not some secondary threat who we can deal with after we’ve tamed the ISIS monster. Assad created the failed state and the power vacuum that ISIS was able to fill.
Some of Clinton’s specific prescriptions were a little too limited and Obamaesque for my taste (she didn’t even call for more American Special Operations forces to improve the bombing campaigns, though she said she would be open to it).
Aha! Brooks, who wanted to turn Syria into Iran's Vietnam, has changed to turning it into America's Second Vietnam! Brooks wants American troops in there fighting both ISIS and Assad. He's come to the conclusion that it is America that should "waste money and effort"!
But wait! There's more:
The grand strategy of American policy in the Middle East, therefore, should be to do what we can to revive and reform Arab nations, to help them become functioning governing units.
The "grand strategy"?
America has destroyed Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya, leaving them in virtual chaos with nothing resembling "functioning governing units." Syria needs to be number four on the lucky list?
That begins with stepped-up military pressure on ISIS. But it also means going hard on Assad, creating no-fly zones for sanctuaries for Syrian refugees to limit his power, ratcheting up pressure on Iran and Russia to force his departure.
Brooks no longer wants a Vietnam for Iran, but a second one for the U.S. In addition to American troops, he wants the U.S. to create a no-fly zone in Syria that would put America in a direct confrontation with Russia (a country that has a nuclear arsenal that's just as large as America's).
It's safe to say, that despite Brooks' Clintonian awakening, he still has no clue about Syria.
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Fighting for an unlimited budget and this is what they do with it. Not worth fighting for unless you are already at the top of the totem pole.
Had to do Jury Duty this morning.
Second time this year, they can call you back as often as they want until you actually sit on a jury.
My problem is voir dire when they ask if I'm biased.
You bet you're damned ass I'm biased.
Law enforcement can kill innocent, and unarmed, people with impunity. Our legal and justice system hasn't produced one fuckin' perp walk for the greatest financial fraud in history from Wall Street, circa 2008 and continuing. We have a War Criminal Administration, backed by facsist legislators and supported by a Supreme Court that put all levels of government out to the highest bidder. We have people exonerated after decades of imprisonment due to judicial malfeasance, we've had children trafficked to private, for-profit prisons by judges. We have cowardly cops shooting first (remember Chris Dorner) at innocent women and other people in their panic. Law enforcement beating the living shit of people. Lies and entrapment used to force confessions...I'm biased against the court.
I will not convict anyone of anything.
I no longer trust the process or the people in it. Government has become the biggest ring of organized crime there ever was.
NOTHING they say is the truth.
So until I actually sit on a jury, where I would get a one's years break from the next call up, I seem to be on the favored list. No wants, no warrants, no arrests, no record, no nothing but a seething contempt for the process. And I'm feeling that we ought to alter or abolish it, old school.
OK, you're excused.
I generally do the simpler, more effective "Is the defendant black?" routine and then I get to go home.
The old "Am I allowed to carry this gun in a courthouse?" routine is generally not a good idea to try any more. Some people have no sense of humor.
Clyde Melvin is the reason metal detectors popped up all of a sudden.
Shot a judge and his ex-wife in divorce court in my wife's home town, Port St. Joe, Fla.
Knew the judge and the Sheriff that shot Melvin personally, met Melvin around town a couple times.
Even then, wasn't too upset over a fuckin' lawyer getting shot/killed.
But every time I go to court and go through that stupid security shit I can't help but remember that stuff.
This was back in my volunteer EMT days working the county ambulance.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1987-07-29/news/8703030069_1_clyde-melvin-gulf-pines-hospital-gulf-county-courthouse
Fucking lawyers are surrounded by armed cops and they're so (rightfully) chicken shit the rest of us have to put up with this bullshit.
I feel ya'. My blood boils every time I have to pass through a security screening just to research some records or respond to a traffic infraction.
Case in point...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3330564/Man-convicted-3-rapes-expected-exonerated.html
These old fosiles are delusional. Crude could be back-ward-dated into the $20.00 handle, and it's all about their pensions.
The funny thing is , they put that juicy "cow patty" in the Oval Office, and NOW they can't deal with it.
Answer to a russophobic bigot
http://thesaker.is/answer-to-a-russophobic-bigot/
Just noticed the Saker has written a book, and hopes for word-of-mouth publicity as he expects to be completely ignored. If you appreciate his work, keep spreading the word. More details:
“The Essential Saker” book is now out in hardcover and ebook format!>> Brooks wants American troops in there fighting both ISIS and Assad.
Good practice for them. American foot soldiers have not had much experience of being bombed by jet aircraft and cruise missiled. Great opportunity for them. Should be interesting to watch.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-dirty-war-on-syria-the-basics/5490858
When are the American people going to round up these chicken-shit war criminals and execute them?
Don't expect much from the sheeple. Kardshians are much more amusing for the 97.5%
Expect a knock on the door by the FBI in about three months. There's so many people pissed it takes that long just to come check you out.
The fucking clowns couldn't find a pressure cooker on Amazon.
who is this smegma?
David Brooks is a fucking idiot.
he has lots of company, 'Murka!!
And why is anyone supposed to give a flying fuck what David Brooks has to say? The clerk at the liquor store has a lot of opinions about foreign policy. But at least he also KNOWS something about what bourbon is worth trying out, which makes him at least 300,000 times more credible and authoritative than David "word salad served daily" fuckface Brooks!
Strap this guy to a Russian bomb and drop him over Raqqa. Him and his offspring, before he gets yours.
Ban the New York Times!
my first thoughts about this "David Brooks" character is that this must be the MOST ViLe Traitorous ScuM alive today. He says "yes Massa AiPaC", "MaY I YoUr LoYal SlotH SlaVE Have AnoTheR ? "
Now don't put him on a pedestal! He is just somewhat above-average scum.
Apparently all the millions of people that will have to die as a result of his casual Vietnam plans dont bother him one bit.
Sounds like a personal battle...
Stop giving airtime to the so-called punditry, the analysts, and the media whores.
Nobody who wants to and is capable of shoring things up requires any of those qualifications.
Brooks longs for "National Greatness". He and his buddy Kristol said as much in in op-ed way back in the 90s. Any opportunity for sacrifice he would regard as healthy and noble for the nation. He's a type of national-socialist, as are all these neocons.
Thanks to guys like Brooks and his buddy Kristol the US has spent the last 25 years squandering its national greatness.
It may be gone.
"Brooks longs for "National Greatness"".
That's true, but he's talking about the country he's loyal to: Israel.
Kill that fucking Hack! Better still drop the bastard into Aleppo and let's see whether the Syrian Army or DAESH gets him first.
Slightly off topic, but not much: I am delighted to see Ralph Nader weigh in again on world affairs. This is a time which needs cool, kind, erudite people more than ever before, in my opinion. People of courage.
Nader is a jackass. Some of us remember the hatchet job he did on the Corvair. He hasn't changed.
https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2015/02/10/Unsafe-At-An...
Hey, any MOAR unannounced explosions you'ld care to share.
I'm Moonlighting/ Bitch
Brooks is one of the dumbest people in america, so dumb in fact that he doesn't even realize he's a shill for the CIA. The apex rube.
"Apex rube" is very good.
We've had 3 Vietnams since Vietnam.
if ever there was a policy that led America into the most destructive and wasteful wars ... it was ... "we have a mission to change their Government".
We need a mission to change OUR government.
They're all Syricong and Iranicong bastards. They've been killing each other for hundreds of years. Can't win that shit when everyone of them is the enemy.
And don't forget the VarmintCong!
And the WrongCong
Meet the NeoCong
Is it de rigeur for Jewish journalists on The Gray Lady to wish death and destruction on Arabs generally ? What is it about this seeding of Chaos everywhere and destruction of Secular Arab states anbd destabilisation of Western Europe ? Is this some Jewish Death Cult that wants to bring down the pillars supporting the global system and enjoy the funeral pyre as human life is devastated by aerial weapons ?
The US is a rogue oligarchy which should be experiencing drone attacks on Washington to bring rogue government to heel. By any fiscal definition the US is a failed state with failed and corrupt political system
is brooks a dual citizen?
http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html
anybody got an udated list of dual citizens?????
Sandmann - A failed Republic yes. The removal of the Pledge of Allegiance was telling. While it was never perfect this nation building shit certainly was never part of what Founders had in mind in establishing the Republic.
Quoting General Turgidson in Dr. Strangelove-- "No more than 10 to 20 million killed, tops. Depending on the breaks."
Brooks is an insane psychopath without the comedy angle.
Many More Vietnams on queue: gi?t ng??i c?ng s?n cho t?ng!
David Brooks wants his sons & daughters to join the infantry in the USARMY before the war starts so they can
get killed along with your sons & daughters when they are conscripted to fight for all the grey haired white balding old bastards in Congress.
Yeah, a high school buddy of mine was in the infantry under similar circumstances in 1970. He didn't come back either.
Yeah, me too, but from my class of 1965. They would have tured 21 in 1968; instead they were buried.
Ten bucks says David Brooks has never had sex.
... with a women
HUGE difference between the USA politicians' slaughter of American soldiers in the Vietnam "war" vs all military engagements since then, which only the soldiers of the Vietnam era would know and understand:
THE SOLDIERS SENT TO BE SLAUGHTERED IN THE VIETNAM "WAR" WERE VERY POORLY COMPENSATED CONSCRIPTS, *NOT* WELL-COMPENSATED VOLUNTEERS.
"I ain't no senator's son, yeah"
Once upon a time, Brooks would talk sense. Then he went to the NYT. Now, this ranting doesn't even make enough sense to disagree with. "Iran's Vietnam?" OMG.
This guy is a complete Douche-Bag...
Our brightest and best?
And all the runners for DIC with the possible exception of one wants to bomb, bomb, bomb.
All my life we have been bombing someone with the possible exception of a couple of years after Vietnam kicked our butts out.
Will it ever end?
....and now for the CFR point of view.......
<-- Brooks, full Retard
<-- Brooks, fully Owned
C. both of the above
Fuck David Brooks.
He's just shilling to keep up the PNAC plan of 7 countries in 5 years.
Of course they are fretting about it, they are about 10 years late on part of the plan, and some of them are getting old and close to death. Can't let them miss out on their moment of valor, can we?
It's insane how brazenly duplicitous they are.
Brooks should look in the mirror when he says some people are not qualified to hold a certain position.
He is certainly no Gergen, and an argument could be made that even Gigot seems like a thinking human being in comparison.
Syria is not a failed state.
The 'civil war' in Syria is a US construct. It is a bunch of US/Israel/Saudi/Turkey trained funded bunch of rebels including ISIS trying to replace Assad with an American puppet. It is an invention. Turkish gas bombings-false flags, the demonising of Assad to create a plausible reason for the US to make trouble there.
Brooks is a total fucking moron and idiot who knows nothing at all. He is living a fantasy cartoon world.
Iran's Vietnam? LoL, the only people blowing their money in Syria is Saudi Arabia and USA. Iran and Russia dont need to Win, they only need to stop the USA making Syria a puppet state.
The US want Russian bases out of Syria, they want the Qatar pipeline. All Russia, Iran, Syria (&China?) need to do is keep Syrian borders a quagmire.
And if the US put numerous boots on the ground it wont be like Iraq Version 1. You have 'Russian', Iranian, Syrian experienced military and hardware that will make US wish they never came. It will be a long war of US body bags aka Vietnam.
David Brook's bravery is undoubted, he is willing to send 10s of thousands of American soldiers to die to help fund Defense corporation profits.
He is a hero.
Mr Brooks, a better idea. Why don't you ask US military men a simple question, give them a simple choice. Give all your money to a Defense corporation and stay home, or go to die and the taxpayer give the same amount to a Defense corporation.
Sorry, never heard of David Brooks.
Maybe, stopping ISIS is as easy as stop paying their salaries and stop supplying them with weapons.
Why doesn't Brooks work on that instead of working on corrupting and murdering more innocent people. Better yet, why doesn't he sell his ideas to Israel. They like killing people.
Me Neither
The "grand" strategy, according to Brooks, is to bleed out all the useless eaters living in their parents basements, put em on the frontline, give em a gun and kill anything that waves a black flag atop a brand new white Toyota truck courtesy BOJ QE, dresses in a Syrian or Russian uniform, or in Iranian/Hezbollah garb. Nation building will commence with building the Qatary pieline... Welfare for the defense contractors, not fat, indigent American consumers!
Brooks is a Jew and his son is in the Israeli Army. We know where his loyalties lie.
Ziocon? I don't think any leader has ever wanted to see his/her empire fail.
Yes anarchy is brutal, but the knowledge that's shared is priceless.
Not culteral assimilation.> Free Will, choices.<
I don't seem to recall the venerable IDF fighting anywhere alongside the USA--their sugardaddy and claimed ally--in Iraq or Afghanistan.
I think they specialize in bulldozing homes known to be occupied by Arab grandmothers, blinding American art students, and strafing US Navy life rafts.
No, no, no.....
You want Syria to be America's NEW Vietnam!
The shadow government of the USA made BILLIONS off Vietnam. It was perfect in everyway:
1. Government spending SKY ROCKETED!,
2. MIC specnding sky rocketed!,
3. it went on for 14 glorious years.
Think of how much money in service fees Goldman Sachs made off issuing all those lovely deficit spending bonds? Just think of it! In fact, they are STILL making a fortune off those bonds that were issued in 1967 because the USA hasn't paid a single cent back, they just roll them and every time they roll them, Goldman is there with their service fee again. Its actually quite brilliant.
It worked a treat in Vietnam. They have a beauty going in Afghanistan, why not try for another in Syria?
The mother of all successes was WWII but that only lasted 4 years....that was good but, not as good as Vietnam.
You must think like a psychopath to understand these people.
They are truely sick...very smart and sick. They all need their own lamp post will a sufficient length of rope.
Squid
If he's Jewish, then the answer is yes.
Is he Jewish ?
Yes, he is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brooks_(journalist)
Anyone happen to know where his kids live.
I will just pop round there and explain to them that the reason they are about to die a horrible tortured brutal death at my hands is so that their fuck witted cock sucking jew boy cunt of a father who is itching to get some first hand experience of what real war is like, gets his wish.
That way when he gets home he can also see first hand what it is like for those he proposes to destroy, of course, overwhelmingly civilians.
Do you THINK I am fucking joking.
Who is David Brooks and why should my son die for him?
Who is Barack Obama and why should my son die for him?
Who is Hillary Clinton and why should my son die for her?
Who is John MICcain and why should my son die for him?
Who is Donald Trump and why should my son die for him?
WHO ARE THESE FUCKING PEOPLE who want others to die for them?????