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The US Has 'Boundary' Problems
Submitted by Howard Kunstler via Kunstler.com,
It’s no accident that Donald Trump’s vaunted wall along the US-Mexico border became such a potent metaphor for a floundering American polity. The US has boundary problems — and not just with illegal immigrants (whoops, undocumented visitors). A mighty flux of standards and principles is symptomatic of an economy in freefall. Nothing is settled. All values are put up for re-negotiation. Steamrolling and bullying are the new fair play. Foundational ideas, such as the first amendment, erode under a flood of special pleadings. There is no center left to hold.
The latest identity politics fracas at Princeton University is instructive. Princeton students’ Black Justice League demanded both the vilification of former university president Woodrow Wilson as an arch-segregationist at the same time they demanded a segregated “cultural safe space for black students.” The pusillanimous current Princeton president, one Christopher Eisgruber, entertained their “demands” perhaps knowing that the threatened “indefinite” occupation of administration offices would be cut short by the Thanksgiving week vacation. (So far, the occupying force of the Black Justice League has not demanded delivery of free turkey and cranberry sauce — turkeys problematically have distinct regions of white and dark meat.)
The past ten days have also seen protests against free speech at snooty eastern elite Amherst College and a “white privilege retreat” at the University of Vermont for students “self-identifying as white” — why not “students of whiteness?” — with required reading on “The Invention of the White Race,” “White Privilege, Male Privilege in Race, Class, Gender,” “The Feminist Classroom,” and “The Abolition of Whiteness.”
You might whiff a general drift in all this of antagonism against people of whiteness and men in particular. Hence it’s extra-specially unfortunate that the oafish and sadistic Donald Trump is so conspicuously out there representing that identity group. I suppose what that shows is that the process of boundary dissolution can really call out the demonic. The sad part is that white men of principle and reason are so beaten down that none dare oppose the forces of identity vengeance on the loose.
The fugitive truths surrounding the Black Lives Matter protests are too unpleasant for the public interest to digest. For instance, the behavior of the new Holy Trinity of Black Martyrs, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Tamir Rice, in the incidents where they lost their lives. All were doing something likely to get them into serious trouble: 1) beating up on an armed sentinel, 2) groping inside a patrol car for a policeman’s gun, 3) brandishing a pellet gun designed to look like a .45 automatic in a public place. I’d go so far to suggest that the Black Lives Matter movement has become so virulent because it’s increasingly obvious that black behavior is so embarrassingly bad and nobody knows what to do about it, especially black people. (Check the national murder rates.)
The colleges and universities have become the theater for these histrionics because they are institutionally so vested in the wish for better outcomes that evolved from the civil rights struggles of the last century. A general failure of those expectations has driven the colleges collectively crazy — or, more precisely, made them places for the enactment of craziness. The careers of reasonable people are hostage to the new campus Red Guards, who operate much like Mao Zedong’s lunatic minions of the 1960s, who were set loose to distract public attention from the enormous failure of Mao’s five-year plan economy.
A reasonable argument can be made that the temperament of the USA is worse than that of Germany in 1932. We’re more foolish, feckless, and savage, our politics more ridiculous, and the wave we’re riding is much more dangerous.
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Freedom of speech is a useless concept if first you do not use your freedom to think. These college kids haven't learned how to think for themselves, and therefore do not value freedom of speech.
Amazing how the masses have been convinced that this CORPORATE ECONOMIC OPPRESSION battle is really just about "white privilege". Got to hand to the filthy elites, though, they do know how to play the 'divide and conquer' game.
It only works if you have a docile uneductaed populace incapable of thinking for themselves who buy into state proganda completely.
Speaking of Trump and identity politics, the motherfucker trolled the shit out of the MSM. He posted an infographic with not quite accurate numbers regarding black on black, black on white and white on black homicide. CNN, of course, went and fact checked and found that it wasn't 97% of all black homicides were committed by blacks, but rather 90%. I'm pretty sure that Trump did this on purpose. Post something wrong on the internet, and viola! People go to disprove it. It gave me a pretty good chuckle. I'm still not going to vote for him though.
It probably is 97% considering that they often count wetbacks as "white" when they're the perpetrator.
Just DO NOT check off that "Caucasian" Box when applying for anything. You will be turned down for whatever it is and sent to the back of the line.
Best choice is the "Native American" box since everyone born here is a "Native American" in a manner of speaking so you won't be caught in a lie despite the fact that fraud, deception and droning seem to be The American Way these days. If questioned simply say, "I identify myself with Native Americans."
Is there a box for "Lesbian Transgender Native American"?
There must be since it's prob a grad course at Amherst.
Just DO NOT check off that "Caucasian" Box when applying for anything. You will be turned down for whatever it is and sent to the back of the line.
Businesses are getting sick of the worthless products of Affirmative Action. They can hire and fire a white male without consequences. In the long term it is a benefit since the amount of risk is lower in hiring a new person.
Next census, agree with your neighbors to "integrate" your neighborhood, in govt statistics. Keeps away housing projects.
90 percent vs 97 percent, does it really matter? The point is made 9 out of 10 attacks are attributed to......
That was the point of doing it. He forced the MSM to go dig up the information proving that he was "wrong," which got them to make his point for him. Trump is no fool, and I'd be shocked if he didn't know the real numbers before trolling the MSM on twitter. I would also be surprised if he didn't understand that the reactionary nature of the MSM would lead to the result that he got.
On the positive side Justin Bieber has ended his feud with Selena Gomez.
Finally. Why so long? Soooo many questions.
You just violated my "safe zone" where I am free from having to hear thoughts that aren't 100% congruent with what my women's studies teacher taught me to think.
Get over it.
I'm sorry but this has nothing to do with Freedom of Speech, nor any other "freedom" for that matter. Using a "freedom" in order to voilate someone else's freedom is a complete bastardization of the who concept of a freedom. Which is, I might add, the most common tactic used today.
Agreed.
Cheers to the Black Justice League...EVERYBODY knows that Woodrow Wilson was the A$$HOLE who enslaved this once proud country:
Under his presidency the Federal Reserve was created, the IRS and Income Tax was initiated, and he took the US into WWI where we had NO BUSINESS to be, for the Zionists...
The "black justice league" can go fuck themselves, however every other word you typed there was accurate and W Wilson was the biggest piece of shit president short of the one we have now, so Karma is a bitch Woodrow!
Easy target for sure, and a valid point. Now lets hear them bash FDR, LBJ, Clinton and Obama for all of their failed policies as well.
<crickets>
Plus he ruined the 20th century by making Germany loose WWI. This created conditions for WWII to come about and all that fallout.
Doesn't seem to have affected their ability to humilate the lone 'Superpower' 50 different ways 'til Sunday, does it...? Funny how that works...
Murica - Where we put ze Germans to shame.
If Kuntster gets a regular rotation here I suggest ZH open a guest slot for Fred Reed of Fred on Everything. All the hard hitting truth with half the kneejerk douchiness.
/This article was actually one of HKs better efforts
Insert a typical ZH dupe post.
I like your identity-metamorphosing photo. Virginia Woolf wrote a book, "Orlando" that was made into a move that your photo reminds me of.
Typical enough "ZH dupe post"?
Nobody's afraid of her...
Cowabunga, dood
Isn't 'COWABUNGA!' what you yell when you a surfing the crest of a king wave just before you are swallowed up?
#ZerohedgeLivesMatter
Yes I said it, someone had to.
The race war component of the NWO agenda is proceeding as planned.
1- Turn everyone against each other (black against white, russia agaisnt germany, etc) so that they stay weak and forget about your existance.
2-Create global "problems" (global warming, maybe WW3?, etc)
3-Provide solution in the form of a bigger world governement
4-repeat 1 to 3 until you get an unstopable world governement
I like it.
Let's give it a try.
exactly doc. white and black folks got along quite well in the aftermath of civil war cuz both were broke and had to work and survive together, that racism bullshit went right out the door.
then lo and behold, doucebag northern democrats came down to the south and drove a wedge between them.
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This article is 200% right. I was thinking about posting the other day that people sit around and tell each other they can't believe the German people listened to Hitler. That was nothing in comparison to what is going on now and people sit around with a blank stare not wanting to get involved. Oh well?
I have an educated brother with multiple degrees and has taught school for 30 years, he told me that Putin is a dictator who has 50 billion $ in foreign bank accounts, sends people to Siberia for minor offenses, and is a new Hitler! And HE is a liberal! A deomocratic union member teacher liberal! Now what to fucking conservatives think?
That's funny that he spouts bullshit about Vladimir Putin and then compliments him at the end by comparing him to Hitler, one of the greatest men to ever live. Perhaps he's suffering from schizophrenia.
Hitler certainly had his positive attributes, and may have been exactly what Weimar-era Germany needed.
Unfortunately for about 80 million Europeans, Hitler was also crazy.
When you realize people have been indoctrinated all their lives....how do you repair and help them? My father was in ww2...I believe he was so propagandized that it was impossible for him to get back to reality. There are films of soldiers talking to each other after the war. They concluded they had to forget all the things that were put in their minds or they would be unable to live a normal life. All they wanted to do was go home and live a normal life.
"they demanded a segregated “cultural safe space for black students.”
AFRICA!
Exactly. They talk about the tragedy of being taken from Africa, but when offer to ship them back free of charge, they get all silent. They want to cling to their victimhood and gang bangin'
that makes no sense, stop making comments with your head up your ass. black folks have as much of a claim to shit in this country as everyone else.
Mizzou grad?
no, i think with my head on my shoulders rather than up my ass. like i said and continue to say, white people bitch and complain as much everyone else.
welcome to the club.
Really? Can you show me the white network TV channel? How about the white affirmative action? How about the white lives matter movement? How about the "disnecfranchisement" of the white voter? How about the NAAWP?
Care to look at crime stats fuckhead? You call that thinking with your head? Only if your head is shoved completely up your ass.
Yea asswipe. The WB is one, how many shows with a non white cast do they have and compare that to the number of shows with a majority white cast. Affirmative action applies to all, its why white women have benefitted the most. You can have a naawp, no one is going to care, like when that white guy made an all white basketball league.
Crime stats tell us that both black and white folks have more to fear from their own groups. Get your head out your ass buddy, both groups are being played by the same group.
Dude, Black People Date is a straight up racist company that whites could not get away with - I don't care what you say.
Tell that to the Native Americans. If I were to split this country based on race, they'd get the Louisanna purchase back. Then black people could argue with me over whatever is left.
At least I could always look to the Indians and say "We good now?" and expect it to mean something.
Lincoln mentioned several times in speeches that they deserved a free ride to South America.
"Father Abraham" was a segregationist and wanted nothing to do with black folks. He said so in his first inagural speech and in several other things he wrote. His attitude was that there is only one superior race and that was the whites. He wrote that, while blacks may be fine people, he wanted nothing to do with them. He and his Secretary of State, Seward, set up the African country of Liberia (Liberty) to take all of the black slaves that they were planning to send back after the war was over.
Except these losers wouldn't be safe from criticism in Africa either.
I notice a tempermant of detachment in America. People see news on TV, and their mind tends to repeat what they are told. Kids go to college, take funky classes in lesbian culture and then repeat what they were told. Unqualified idiots seek jobs in applied computer science and software enginnering, with degrees is vollyball coaching, and mass communications with a major in TV sports broadcasting.
Nobody knows shit, nobody care about shit. Except getting paid well for an easy job.
I can believe easily that the power to "print money" is the only glue that holds America together! Without being able to spend twice what we earn, America would be doomed!
Another super post. Ya know Charlie Manson told us all about these things in his speech to the jury....court and probably anybody else that would listen. Was he a prophet? This post should be enough to start at least one war.
I had a friend tell me just today that we should "accept all Syrian refugees as a natural consequence of our interventionist policy there".
I shit you not. That is where we are at in America. A nation that has gone Full Retard.
Sunni vs Shia genocide, and tribe on tribe, clan vs clan rape war pillage mayhem and tyranny reigned in MENA for a thousand years before America's founding was even imagined.
Check out the movie Idiocracy. Its set in 2505, but Amurika seems to be far ahead of schedule.
Mass 'schooling' and mass media have accomplished the objectives of creating a nation of apathetic morons. (With much help from modern factory agriculture & pharma.)
I can understand why people say that, but the logic is flawed. I didn't want any of that shit. I don't support it, didn't vote for it, and speak against it every single time it comes up in conversation to tha point that some of my friends and family simply won't discuss politics with me. I don't want to pay for all their shit, and I don't think it's wise to import thousands of military aged men who hate us because we wrecked their home country. If the idea was to force Robert kagan and his ilk to personally take a bunch of them in, maybe id be on board.
I asked my (brilliant) 26 year old daughter last night, "Do you think that Millennials are anaesthetized to the events occuring in this world that will change their future world - anaesthetized by TV, sports, parties and drugs?"
She replied that "It is overload", by which she meant that there are so many events, of such magnitude, that they believe it is too much for them to have any influence over.
But, of course, it is not only the Millennials who are anaethetizing themselves in this way - it is true of all our generations, each in their own way.
It seems that we no longer have an identifiable tribe of our own, one with its own history, interests, language and values; unless such a tribal identity occurs (or is allowed), my daughter is likely to remain correct.
yup, my favorite anesthetizing substance is a good burbon...
more white people bitching about black people. black people bitching about white people. meanwhile both groups are still getting fucked over by the same group who don't care what or who you are.
hey cuntsler, shut the fuck up. white people are tired of black people bitching, while black people are tired of white people bitchin. nice to know you are doing your 'murican duty and keeping people divided. pricks like this are the first to complain about the likes of the rev sharpton while he is doing the exact same thing that sharpton is doing.
It's not so much bitching, it's just that we're sick of nigger criminals and welfare parasites which is what you get when you allow these low IQ savage beasts into your country and give them "rights". Anyone who has lived or had to be in their presence very long ends up becoming a race realist. Let's face it, blacks simply aren't as evolved in the brains department in comparison to other races.
And like i said, black folks are tired of the bitching and moaning of white folks. Waa, waaa, Waa, i'm white and cant say racist shit to black people without them getting pissed. waaa, waaa, waaaa, im black and these white people wont let me x,y,z.
meanwhile back at command central, the fed and its owners, the banks are fucking us all over. and lets face it, the only reason why white people are bitching is because the shit that they normally do is being called out and they don't like it. its okay for white people to point a finger at people but soon as that shit is reversed, now we got to hear them bitching adding their voices to cacophony of bitching voices.
sorry the only group of people i do not like arent black,white,asain, or native american. its the assholes that are keeping us divided. they would rather have you scared to death of jamal or muhammed because then, i can rob your ass blind blame the brown skinned people and you'll go right along with it.
As a homosexual cuckservative I agree. Let's not be bigoted.
A reasonable argument can be made that the temperament of the USA is worse than that of Germany in 1932
Correct, Kunstler, but you left out the part that you are doing your worst to that, between righteous bouts of confirmation-whoring.
Yup, this is the guy that likes to get on his high horse and bash NASCAR Christers when he gets his groove on. I wonder if this tool actually expects to lead people in upstate NY? The Misanthrope Party... clearing off lawns since 2008!
Insert diatribe about the zionist regime using this to overthrow the world
There's only one reason the negros were brought over here in the first place and it's not to hang out in the 'hood", pimp their ho's, soil white women, collect welfare/food stamps or go gang banging. Since they aren't doing what they were brought here to do, send them back. But as a parting gift we'll give each of them 2 wetbacks to take with them.
What did people who live in Africa ever do to deserve that?
"Christopher Eisgruber"...?
How in the bloody hell did this poor sap end up as a cross between Hans Gruber and a Marvin Eisenberg...?
"The sad part is that white men of principle and reason are so beaten down that none dare oppose the forces of identity vengeance on the loose."
Within the halls of academia, perhaps. Outside of that sphere it's just ~slightly~ different...
Whites are the New Blacks!
Barry crossed the Appalachians
His black Men, His white Men, his Countrymen, his Illegals
Bazza crossed the Alps, er Appalachians.
The stupid is real thick in here today.
What happened to this place?
Hold on. Germany didn't have darkies to attend to .. so they were able to unite together in a common cause. And they did it well. There isn't a country that has so many black folk which is able to keep things from falling a part. All black countries fall a part. Do I need to prove this?
Sounds like the standard black way of life. Boy I've worked with many, many blacks in my time. No matter how hard I wanted to see the world through their eyes, I coudn't. Whenever I told them this, they just laughed. All you can do is shake your head and get on with it. Blacks think different to whites, they are just different. I mean, as soon as you set foot in Africa, you realise the only law is the law of the jungle/bush. It's mind boggling.
How about a compromise in Princeton....The Woodrow Wilson Black Student Cultural Center?
FAIL. Unlike Germany at the time, the U.S.S.A. does not actually manufacture anything. If you think the U.S.S.A. is bad, wait until China loses it.
Oh, the USSA still manufactures weapons (guns, ammo, missiles, nukes, etc). Plus, they manufacture endless lies, trouble and bogus rationalizations/justifications.
But yeah, otherwise not so much.
Well, what have whites done to stand up for themselves? What CAN whites do to stand up for themselves? So many young white men have been relegated to their parents' basements to decay. What a shame.
Trouble is, as soon as a young white man stands up for himself he becomes THE PRIME THREAT. And 'old' principles are shunned by our ultra modern neo liberal society, especially by empowered women. When black men become empowered they destroy.
If you stand up you stand alone, it's difficult - extremly hard. I've done it. Lived it. You become vilified for your principles. If you make your points and believe in them, you can make change. It's not about controlling the change, it's about managing it. When things fall a part as a white male you can re-generate, make new settlements, build once more, create, innovate and re-design.
The way it always was. The way it is still.
Wow. I can't believe this guy is justifying the murder Tamir Rice. A child whose crime was playing with a toy gun.
I'm not sure I would've thrown that into an article either.
But who really knows the circumstances surrounding this one? I suppose no matter what way you cut it, the child is dead without a weapon - oops.
I'm guessing a lot of these new age college kids had mothers doing heavy drugs during pregnancy.
The Tamir Rice case is an example of a perfect storm of circumstances that all came together to almost guarantee a tragic outcome. Wiki has a good overall presentation of the main issues; they appear pretty solid and pretty scary. Especially the part about Officer Loehman (who fired the fatal shots) losing his previous police job for being deemed; immature, emotionally unstable, unfit and dangerous in weapons handling.
Then there's the part in the coroner's report on Tamir as being 5'7"/195 lbs.
Lots of really bad juju here. But it coulda' and shoulda' ended differently with better police work, I think.
I've not looked at this case. Read and heard too many of these, but a dead kid without a gun is a dead kid without a gun. You can add and subtract from that as much as you like but the conclusion is the same. The police were probably in a better position to handle the matter, but it's fucked.
In other news, Mugabe will lead Zimbabwe from a new improved wheel chair.
But the difference is that Germany in 1932 had an enormous unpayable debt from its wars... Wait now... Never mind...
Nooses matter.
I'm disappointed that Kunstler decided to badmouth Trump. The rest of the article was okay.
... the temperament of the USA is TRILLIONS OF TIMES worse than that of Germany in 1932 ...
US has no boundaries
with TPP & TTIP American will extend its juridiction to these countries , you will see America making arrests in these countries as well as start court cases against patent infringements stopping pharma etc industries in these countries so that it can sell overpriced American goods.
It is East India Company all over again
Boycott America , get out of international agreements with America and stop using American Dollar