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Syrian Rebels Destroy Russian Helicopter With US-Supplied Anti-Tank Missile

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Earlier today, just hours after Turkey shot down a Russian Su-24 warplane near the border with Syria, the FSA (more specifically Alwiya al-Ashar) released footage of fighters celebrating over the body of a dead Russian pilot. 

The group would later claim to have executed both pilots after they ejected from the plane and attempted to parachute to safety. 

In a second serious escalation, another FSA-aligned group claimed to have shot down a Russian search and rescue helicopter.

You can read our full coverage here, but just note that if the FSA's 1st Coastal Brigade did indeed use an American-made TOW to destroy a Russian aircraft, it confirms exactly what we said on Monday when we detailed the American, Turkish, and Saudi-sponsored program to supply anti-tank missiles to the Syrian opposition: 

Obviously, this is the very definition of absurdity. It would be bad enough if the US were supplying TOWs to anyone in Syria. But this is Washington and Riyadh handing anti-tank missiles to forces that are firing them at the Iranians who are operating under cover of Russian airstrikes. Just to drive that home: the US is waging war against Iran and Russia with but one degree of separation.

Now, the FSA has released what it says is footage of the TOW attack:

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Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:51 | 6831902 ghengis86
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WTF....somebody REALLY wants WW3 to touch off right now.

 

FUCK.  This sucks.  If I don't see you guys after the next 24hrs, it's been real.

 

Peace

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:55 | 6831912 y3maxx
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Think friends.....Russian navy is hemmed in the Mediterranean.

No escape routes possible

Gibaraltar, Suez and Bosphorus straights blockaded.

NWO remains on track

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:56 | 6831924 NidStyles
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Those TOWs came from Suad, not the US. Why can no one seem to get their facts straight here? 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:58 | 6831934 ghengis86
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and from whom did the House of Saud acquire the TOWs?  Or, is there a domestic manufacturer of TOW systems in the Kingdom of which I'm not aware?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:02 | 6831977 Money Counterfeiter
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Shooting down an S&R helicopter is bull shit.  Guaranteed these fucker will get no sympathy when Russia mans the border with Turkey.  All Putin needed to give him a excuse to go full medieval on these bastards.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:07 | 6832019 Lumberjack
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see my comment below. It is very probable.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:10 | 6832033 nuubee
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God damn I wish Turkey were not a NATO member right now. Fuck those bastards. They're literally the Austria-Hungary of our era.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:11 | 6832046 WTFRLY
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Joo World Order unpacking... ... ... ... ... 13%

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:15 | 6832071 Harlequin001
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This looks like bullshit. TOWS are designed to punch through tank armour.

Whilst I don't claim to be an authority on the matter, it seems highly probable that these missiles will pass striaght through an aircraft fuselage without detonating.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:21 | 6832095 nuubee
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If you watch the video, they didn't "Shoot it down", they actually shot at what looked like a something on the ground, with a slight hill directly behind.  They hit it through the tail, lengthwise, which would probably cause some kind of explosion from hitting so much material.

For all we know this was a training video that they released just to look powerful to the Russians.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:25 | 6832144 The_Juggernaut
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Russian weapons are no match for US weapons.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:27 | 6832160 nuubee
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I don't give two shits how powerful my own country's weaponry is... I don't want Russians, who I share far more values with than Muslims, killed in my name just to protect a bunch of sand niggers who have never learned how to take responsibility for their own countries.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:48 | 6832325 Manthong
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I would not want to be a Turk pilot anywhere near the Syrian border.

..payback is a bitch and Turks deserve a lot of payback.

But Putin is too smart to make an obvious attack on a NATO member… although we seem to be taunting him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr-oLQgvcuk

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:50 | 6832354 nuubee
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If Putin really doesn't want bloodshed to defeat the west, then he and his allies should just accelerate creating a replacement for the IMF. Force the U.S. elites to endure the painful consequences of money printing.

Though that seems less likely now that China has been accepted into the SDR basket? Not sure how the financial end of this battle is playing out lately, so much actual hot war going on.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:56 | 6832375 The_Juggernaut
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Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:02 | 6832448 Chris Dakota
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This is not good!

Today a very weird chart, two triangles Grand Trine and Tsquare both have apex Pluto at 13 Cap which locks onto Putin Libra Sun 13 and USA Sun 13 Cancer.

On top of each other, this is VERY bad.

Can't see phony Obama since he has lied about his birthdata.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:00 | 6834102 Anonymous User
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Turkey just put herself on a straight path towards a world of hurt:

 

http://goo.gl/VhZdyZ 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:34 | 6834719 Surviver22
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Obama will not finish his second term! Secret exposed! WW3 started! Current Events Linked to Ancient Biblical Prophecy! http://motivationdose.com/is-america-babylon/
Tue, 11/24/2015 - 13:27 | 6832965 slammin_dude
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Time to arm Kurds and unleash them on Turkey.....two can play that game....

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:11 | 6833794 scaleindependent
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Exactly! That is what I was thinking. Arm the Kurds to the teeth not only in Syria but in Turkey itself.  

Erdogas sucks. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:35 | 6832234 Urban Redneck
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Paper match-ups between MIC products are irrelevant and a distraction.  The critical issue how effective one side's weapons are at neutralizing flesh and blood and how well those weapons can be employed against a given adversary.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:58 | 6832424 The_Juggernaut
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I would agree if it was US and Russia squaring off, but it's Russia against some untrained savages.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:35 | 6832680 Trogdor
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I would agree if it was US and Russia squaring off, but it's Russia against some untrained savages.

Untrained?  Where did you get that idea?  Doesn't it strike you as a little strange that these "untrained savages" can not only operate the most technically advanced military hardware (with instructions and markings in English), but they can "somehow" operate it far more effectively than troops that have been "officially" trained?  That guy setting up and firing that TOW has obviously done it before - so - where did Hadji get to practice setting up and firing TOW missiles?  And who provided the practice TOW's and the instruction? (not that it's a big mystery)

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 13:28 | 6832970 slammin_dude
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CIA and spec ops have been training these guys in Jordan for the last 4 years....

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:51 | 6832365 holgerdanske
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"Russian weapons are no match for US weapons."

 

Phew, glad you cleared that up!

I thought the Russians knew a bit, but so happy to now know that that is not the case.

Now I know WWIII will be over in an afternoon.

Feel much better.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:51 | 6832762 where_is the_nuke
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Defending is always easier that attacking. Russia should now bring S-400 in Syria and shoot down some American, Turkish and Israeli planes in retaliation. That would do the job for now. And after all if all goes to waste Putin has always has the option to go full retard all launch all the nukes.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:47 | 6832285 Bokkenrijder
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Well, I got a lot of red kudos for it, but I warned about Russia getting drawn into a long winded proxy war with religious fanatics sponsored by the US, Turkey and the Gulf States. A second Afghanistan.

I also got a lot of red kudos for suggesting that not all, but a lot of Russian equipment (like the SU24 and SU25 and Mil-MI 24 helicopters) are old pieces of Soviet SHIT!

Sorry for bursting anyone's bubble, but at least if the US gets involved in a proxy-war, they do this with laser guided bombs from Stealth Bombers flying at >30000 feet and unmanned drones and cruise missiles.

I feel sorry for the 2 pilots who had to eject from that SU24, they never had a chance against an F16, but at least they are spared a horrible death like that Jordanian pilot who was burned alive in that cage.

Those people are animals, and I think most Americans (perhaps due to their low exposure to Muslims in everyday life) have no clue what they are talking about. To most here, this conflict is about Russia versus the US and since the US manipulates their precious gold prices they root for Russia, but you guys fail to understand the fanatical religious background that these fruitcakes have. They don't need much brainwashing by the CIA, or how else would you explain that thousands of Muslims in Europe were cheering on September 11th 2001, and that Turks were chanting "Allah Akbar" during the minute of quiet at the start of a soccer game in remembrance for the Paris terrorist attacks ?

Russia should never have entered this fight, and is now backed into either losing face by pulling out quietly, or escalating this into a full scale war against those treacherous Turks who are, unfortunately, backed by NATO.

After a flying start and some beginners luck, it looks like Putin wasn't so smart after all by entering this war guns blazing...

Dear Russia/Putin: please don't be drawn into a exhausting civil war where you have to do the dirty work for the West!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:59 | 6832398 Manthong
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Aw JHC.. get real.

This is about a Med port, a pipeline from Qatar that will not happen and a terror reach into the Caucuses..

Vlad will not lose on any of those issues.

..and f. the goddam US puppet Turks.

..but I do agree that Putin will get his hands dirty here doing a job that should not have to be done.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:38 | 6834992 RichardP
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If stuff needs to be cleaned up, why not Russia?  Russia is part of the continent upon which Syria resides.  The U.S. is not.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:18 | 6832552 Good bi bull
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"and that Turks were chanting "Allah Akbar" during the minute of quiet at the start of a soccer game in remembrance for the Paris terrorist attacks ?"

This was to do with the non-reaction of the world when 102 muslims (mostly Kurds at that) were killed by ISIS in Ankara. This did not matter to the West, an hour or so of Newspaper coverege later this got filed under "oh well only muslims".

The Turks believed there are double standards in Europe.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 13:32 | 6832971 Bokkenrijder
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The Turks believed there are double standards in Europe.

Good, then I hope that they never want to join the EU, and that the US won't push them into the EU by leaning on Merkel!

But I bet the lure of 'free money' and EU subsidies will also expose a double standard of the Turks with regards to Europe...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:47 | 6832332 Long-John-Silver
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If you watch carefully you can see multiple secondary explosions and a large peace of shrapnel flying off to the right. That secondary was the right side missile pod exploding. The Russians use several different types of missiles in those missiles pods depending on the mission. Because this was a rescue mission they should have anti-personal missiles in those pods. Those types of missiles have ball bearings that are designed to kill everyone exposed within a 20 meter radius. If you watch the video closely you can see those ball bearings ripping through that helicopter when that missile pod exploded.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:59 | 6832804 killallthefiat
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Yes, Nuubee.  And do not forget the incendiary Allahu Akbar in the background.  I, like Rand Paul, call "Bullsh#t".

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 19:53 | 6835283 RmcAZ
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If you watch the video, they didn't "Shoot it down", they actually shot at what looked like a something on the ground, with a slight hill directly behind.  They hit it through the tail, lengthwise, which would probably cause some kind of explosion from hitting so much material.

For all we know this was a training video that they released just to look powerful to the Russians.

This was my first thought as well, but you can clearly see the smoke plume in the background from the video of the Russian fighter crashing X number of minutes/hours earlier behind the hill to the left.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:42 | 6832304 Oldballplayer
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That is probably what did happen.

But, putting a big hole in a machine that relies on hytraulic fluid and electronics usually makes it hard to keep in the air.

If they were able to auto-rotate to a landing, hat tips to the ruskie pilot for getting it down.  Its not an easy task.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:04 | 6832463 Calmyourself
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Harlequin, you have NO idea what you are talking about.  I would llisten and learn as you have no idea what a TOW will do or not do.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:17 | 6832084 sushi
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Those TOWs came from Suad, not the US. Why can no one seem to get their facts straight here? 

 

The USUS does not export military hardware without prohibitions on the re-export of that hardware. There it is plausible to conclude that the KSA transfer to TOWs to ISIS had tacit USUS approval.

 

What is the difference between ISIS and USUS apart from I and U?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:32 | 6832208 Poundsand
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No, you are both wrong.  These are TOW's from:

a) Libya:  Given to the Rebels who unbeknownst to us moved them to Syria against our express wishes.
b) Iraq:  Stolen when Iraqi forces fighting valiantly were over run after years of training by the US and picked up by the ruthless aggressors.
c) Syria:  Stolen from a resupply mission that went awry attempting to re-supply moderate Syrian rebels who only want to live peacefully and without the threat of having their children gassed by Assad.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:46 | 6832317 ghengis86
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can't tell if you're missing your /sarc tag or not? geez...you guys are getting MDB-level good...

ETA: upon re-reading, nice work!  have a green!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:47 | 6832330 Oldballplayer
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A) Libya.

 

I think we might want to think about how those TOWs would get out of Libya--a port city perhaps? 

Who would negotiate with someone with weapons like that?  Would it run like a Detroit handgun buy-back at the local police station?  Or would you have another "gang" with deep pockets do that.

I wonder what would happen if another gang, with deep pockets--and friends in Syria and Iraq, got wind that the first gang was buying weapons from some of their weak handed or greedy buddies.

Just tossing it out for conversation.  You know how this things are just "conspiracies."

And really.  At this point.  What difference does it make?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:18 | 6832099 NoVa
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Who is the Franz Ferdinandof today?

was an Archduke of Austria-Este, Austro-Hungarian and Royal Prince of Hungary and of Bohemia, and from 1896 until his death, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne.

 

Interesting how times really have not changed over there -

 

NoVa


Tue, 11/24/2015 - 13:23 | 6832941 BandGap
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The Archduke and his pregnant wife were killed.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 20:17 | 6835350 hunkerdown
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Will the real Gavrilo Prinzip please stand up?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:29 | 6832175 Urban Redneck
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If Turkey attacked Russia, then any NATO could instead throw a cocktail party and tell Erdogan to go hell if Russia attacked, in which case the European response is actually more critical than the US response, and probably determinative of it. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:36 | 6832242 Dutti
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Sounds good, but not going to happen. The European lapdogs are not all of a sudden becoming wolves.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:49 | 6832347 Oldballplayer
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There are good number of US forces in Turkey.

Working at places in Turkey where Russians would probably bomb.

Do you think that fat Russian general is going to walk into the Iraqi embassy  with another demarche?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:22 | 6832466 Manthong
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what a CF this is becoming...

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:36 | 6832247 Banker Buster
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No shit.  No way would Americans want to go to war to protect Turkey and their dictator "president" should Russia say oh yeah we are now going to devistate Turkey.  Or Russia might go about it in a more covert way and just have the Turkey president off'ed.  That would slow them down really quick.  

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 20:24 | 6835377 hunkerdown
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I hope they'll choose something faster this time than the ol' dioxin-in-the-borscht trick.  Frankly, if the Russian Army were to crowdfund a Job on him and Little Bilal, and offer livestreaming of the bayonet-rape as a perk, I wonder how long it would take to tip?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:49 | 6832345 RiverRoad
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It's Archduke Ferdinand time.

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