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Chicago Mayor Emanuel Urges "Remain Peaceful" As Protests Begin After Video Shows Cop Killing Black Teen
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Peaceful Protests have begun...
Turning Physical...
Group of protesters trying to cross bridge east of Michigan on Balbo. #LaquanMcDonald pic.twitter.com/cj9UGW8w8B
— Justin Allen (@Allen_Justin) November 25, 2015
Scene has calmed down now. Several detained. Group yelling "let them go" #LaquanMcDonald pic.twitter.com/uoun5JkbkU
— Justin Allen (@Allen_Justin) November 25, 2015
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Onward down Roosevelt #LaquanMcDonald pic.twitter.com/2DvQTcj9JA
— Dawn Rhodes (@rhodes_dawn) November 25, 2015
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Just as we warned earlier..
With the release of this video, we suggest anyone living in and around Chicago 'brace' for potential social unrest. The Chicago Police Department has released video footage of the officer-involved shooting of 17-year-old Laquan McDonald, who was struck 16 times during a confrontation with officers.
The dashcam video, described by Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez says that this video is "graphic, violent, and chilling," is expected to provoke a very strong emotional reaction from Chicago’s very large African-American community.
As John Kass, a columnist for the Chicago Tribune, said, the video "could tear Chicago apart," which is why Mayor Emanuel has already urged Chicagoans, "it is fine to be passionate, but it is essential to remain peaceful."
Laquan McDonald was walking down a Chicago street the night of October 20, 2014, carrying a four-inch knife and behaving erratically, authorities say.
A police officer told him to drop the knife. He didn’t listen, and the officer fired on him out of fear for his life, according to a police union spokesman.
McDonald, 17, died. He was shot 16 times.
RT @BlueDuPage 16 rounds in 6 seconds. It was an execution. https://t.co/BNlRhi9Bt4 #tcot #p2 pic.twitter.com/TVlWLUId6I
— Karen (@KarenRegis) November 25, 2015
Now, more than a year later, the public will be able to see what happened.
Warning: this video is graphic (the confrontation begins around 5:00)
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As RT reports, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel urged calm as City Hall got set to release police dash cam footage from the shooting incident, which occurred in October 2014. During the incident, 37-year-old Jason Van Dyke, a white officer, shot and killed McDonald, an African-American teen.
“I understand people will be upset and want to protest when they see this video,” Emanuel told reporters during a Tuesday afternoon press conference.
Emanuel cited the McDonald family, saying, “They have asked for calm, and for those who do protest to do so peacefully.”
“It is fine to be passionate, but it is essential to remain peaceful,” Emanuel added.
Earlier in the day, Van Dyke became the first on-duty Chicago officer to be charged with first-degree murder. He was ordered held without bail at a hearing. He has been placed on a "no pay" status by the department. As Michael Snyder adds,
Over the past few years, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and Freddie Gray have all become household names because of the way that they died, and now it looks like Laquan McDonald’s name will be added to that list. But the situation in Chicago is potentially even more volatile what we witnessed in either Ferguson or Baltimore.
More than a million African-Americans live in the Chicago metropolitan area, and the crime rate in the city has already been skyrocketing. In fact, it is being projected that Chicago’s murder rate will increase by 20 percent in 2015. This is a city that is always living on the edge of chaos, and now the case of Laquan McDonald could be the spark that sets Chicago ablaze.
After everything that has happened over the past few years, the last thing that we need is another incident that will make racial tensions in this country even worse. Unfortunately, that appears to be exactly what we are going to get.
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Hey Rahm-O, this looks like one of those serious crises that "you never let go to waste".
Mrs. O'Leary great Chicago fire is about to become the third worst thing to happen to this town.
The first is the fire storm that is about to explode (BLM) and the second (and formerly the first and worst) is Obama.
Thank God Chicago is a 'Gun Free Zone'
They're just one more law away from Nirvana.
100% sure that he a good boy an din du nuffin before the ten seconds he was on dash cam. Also notice no audio.
We have no idea what actually happened. Looks to me like another little nig thought he was above the law.
Sorry, kids, but when a police officer tells you to get on the ground, you do it.
But fuck, lets burn down and loot the city.
First, they came for the nigs...
But you dindu nuffin....
I have yet to see them come for them. Unless you mean that they cum on the floor while they watch them fuck their wives.
No, no-one is being rounded up just yet. They are murdering a few ranchers here and there, but killing some drugged out psychopath? WHO GIVES A SHIT?
Rahm Emmanuel, the "9-fingered dwarf"
Meanwhile... as black teen kills black teen kills black teen kills black teen kills black teen kills black teen kills black teen kills black teen... the honorable Mr. Emmanuel says nothing. Wake up falsely-guilt-ridden white folk... you're being played like a Jew's harp.
I don't see why the cops just don't let them kill each other off. Whenever the police have to take action they are always accused of racism and excessive force. Save your career and just wait for the shooting to be done with and then go fill out a report and calk the bodies off. Keep them contained and let them burn their communities down to the ground.
They pretty much do let them kill each other off, not that I blame them. Inner city blacks are a very violent group of people. I wouldn't want to try to enforce normalcy on them. If they want to live in a shitty area and kill each other, I'm not going to stop them. That said, these fucking cops have tasers. There is no reason for that shit. Even though a hundred more blacks will kill each other around the country before these assholes get done burning their own city, this is all we will hear about.
Oh well, time to get some popcorn and some beer and watch the blacks do what they always do- destroy their own neighborhood and rob the fucking foot locker....
Bullet #8 almost got him in the Pee Pee (see chart above). I would have put my hands up at that point.
Today, 2015:
Defendant was on the scene for less than 30 seconds before he started shooting, in addition to the fact that he starts shooting approximately six seconds after having gotten out of his car.
Back in 2014:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicago-shootings-...
Officers got out of their car and began approaching McDonald, again telling him to drop the knife, Camden said. The boy allegedly lunged at police, and one of the officers opened fire.
Camden said none of the officers who responded had a Taser to use on the teen and were trying to detain him long enough for one to arrive. He said officers were forced to defend themselves.
"When police tell you to drop a weapon, all you have to do is drop it," Camden said.
Des kids, they is always lungin at dees defensless police officers! But don't worry - the brave nonviolent white man defnded himself to dat blaq, all is well in the land of the free, carry on!
What the hell was that guy on anyway? From the drawing above, I would expect some reflex muscle twitching from several of those shots, but the dude just came up once and fell over.
The "victim" was stoned on PCP and wielding a knife. This cop is being set up for being a white man. What a crock of shit.
I can say with all honesty that I love black people, and I hate niggers. The two have nothing to do with one another, and my position is perfectly logical.
logical? I note a passionate "gotta love something and hate it's opposite" "dichtonomy of everything", "black" is neutral while "nigger" is a slur, nowadays
passions are seldom logical, HT. logical thought and emotions use different areas of the brain. the very moment you start with a love/hate discourse, your educated logical part ought to warn you that you are feeling, not "thinking" in a logical manner
no, this mayor is pandering to the public by his "it's fine to be passionate...". the problem in this conflict is too much passion, too much fear, too little logic
he ought to offer a way out. the public ought to accept an attempt to get out of this mess. now that would be logic. and unwarranted, at the moment
The Police should have mixed teams.
Dialogue: white cop to black cop
- "Nigga, this is yours, put him down. "
- "Ma pleasure dawg. Bang!"
#ScumLivesDon'tMatter
Then they can share some muslim spoils http://goo.gl/7tHnDu
You guys are pissed that they shot a guy who was defiantly heading in their general direction while brandishing a knife and refusing to drop it?
Not to mention his left hand.
I'm as against the police state as much as anyone but you can't twist everything into an abuse of power. All this thug had to do is make a good faith gesture that he would not try to kill them, and he refused to even do that much.
Rahm Israel Emanuel:
this guy is not even american he is the real criminal who should be life sentenced
dual citicenship and a mafia related criminal career
he belongs to the most dangerous people in usa and my suggestion is to execute him and his family by strick
so you think the mayor is the problem? I'm afraid it sounds childish to my ears
we are talking about Chicago, aren't we? infamous for it's "Machine Politics", which for some reasons in wiki has been changed to "Political Machine"
"...large cities in the United States—Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Kansas City, New York City, Philadelphia, St. Louis—were accused of using political machines in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.[7] During this time "cities experienced rapid growth under inefficient government".[7] Each city's machine lived under a hierarchical system with a "boss" who held the allegiance of local business leaders, elected officials and their appointees, and who knew the proverbial buttons to push to get things done. Benefits and problems both resulted from the rule of political machines.[8][9]
This system of political control—known as "bossism"—emerged particularly in the Gilded Age. A single powerful figure (the boss) was at the center and was bound together to a complex organization of lesser figures (the political machine) by reciprocity in promoting financial and social self-interest. One of the most infamous of these political machines was Tammany Hall, the Democratic Party machine that played a major role in controlling New York City and New York politics and helping immigrants, most notably the Irish, rise up in American politics from the 1790s to the 1960s. From 1872, Tammany had an Irish "boss". However, Tammany Hall also served as an engine for graft and political corruption, perhaps most notoriously under William M. "Boss" Tweed in the mid-19th century. "
Now, some simple questions: how did this guy get elected? he was a Washington party elite soldier. Is Chicago now free from it's infamous Machine Politics? Because if not, removing one mayor is just... cosmetics
"so you think the mayor is the problem?"
im not talking about him as a major nor as another filthy jew
im talking about him as who he is - a high level criminal
dont distract from the topic please
They must be protesting over the cold-blooded murder by thugs of the young pregnant pastor's wife:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-charged-killing-indianapolis-pastors-pregn...
The autopsy photo obviously shows a white man ...
Maybe they got the wrong guy.
/sarc
Sorry but this is simply wrong:
That said, these fucking cops have tasers.
In a "Taser vs Knife" fight the knife will win every time. Taser distance is only 10 feet, if you miss or it misfires and you are up against a Knife, you are fucking dead.
Cops put their lives at risk already, but asking them to do Taser vs Knife is just crazy these cops aren't Rambo.
Left hand buried in his pocket while right brandishes the knife. Shot with left hand still in pocket. I'm sure he was ordered to show his hands. What's he got in there? We know now. Did they know then? Hell no. But, we know now (I presume) that he was hopped up on something and only brandishing a knife. So the story becomes guy armed only with a knife shot by police, forgetting that's only the story as seen through the retrospectoscope. But the cops playing the game in real time are, of course, supposed to risk their lives, to risk their kids not having a Dad and their wives being made early widows on the likelihood that this kid isn't holding a pistol in his left pocket, that one of them won't take a shot to the forehead in the next 2 seconds while they try to taze a guy wearing a jacket.
Know what I'd say in that scenario? Fuck that shit. Which is exactly what the cops said.
Time will come when the PC enforced pre-shooting checklist will get so long that no one with any reasonable alternatives will accept the zookeeper job for the pay the city can afford. Know what happens next? Sections of the city will essentially just be left to their own devices. Murder rates will skyrocket, gangs will step in to provide protection at much higher rates of taxation on the little guys than the city could enforce, shootings become more brutal but no one notices or cares because gang on gang violence by itself does not have an attached racism handle that culture parasites (guess the current term is culture warriors) can leverage for personal gain, and thus in the shadows the whole thing reaches a different, less public and much more brutal equilbrium. But, the glare of white guilt won't be flooding the scene, so the fact that the working poor in those neighborhoods have really gotten the shaft and are now much worse off wlll never see the light of day. Except for the occasional piece damning the police for "abandoning" neighborhoods of course, but this represents only the equivalent of a retreating army taking occasional potshots.
Equilibrum cannot be held at bay forever. Community is a two way street, and when one side abdicates any responsibility for holding up their side of the platform, the platform is going to tip. When your societal partners are folks like the mother of J'Zyra Thompson (Houston, look it up -- better have been fucking good pizza..) there is no equal partnership to be had. The only solution is that the mortality rate of the young rises to meet the birth rate. A rising flood of less and less capable humans must eventually meet its comeuppance.
Imagine a scenario in which all police cruisers come equipped with bulletproof shields for the officers, behind which they can lob non-lethal rounds with impunity. Know what happens? Within 10 years the citizens learn to charge with impunity because they believe they won't be hurt. The more padding you give a football player, the harder he runs at you. Trying to perpetually stay ahead of equilibrium is a game fit only for fools.
Eventually, we as a society will learn that equilibrium is the hand of God, and playing at God without understanding how God's toolkit works ends in a big bloody fucking mess every goddamn time.
"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
I look @ that situation and I (again) conclude the pigthugs escalated the situation to lethal force needlessly. The deceased was walking in a predictable path devoid of other citizens. Even with a knife in his hand, he did NOT pose an imminent threat to anyone (there was nobody within 30 feet of him). The cops were the closest one to him AND THEY CHOSE THE DISTANCE at which to set up shop. As a group, data suggests niggers are less intelligent and have less impulse control than other ethnicities. A lot of noise, flashing lights, and guns isnt the best way to calm a nigger down. Hell, would anyone be feel safe with those 2 pigthugs pointing guns @ them?
I am glad to see the pigthug DOES NOT GET PAID during this investigation.
You know, at one point that video was the present, and in the present they didn't have that surety that you with your retrospectoscope vision have that he only had a knife.
Not just that, but it only takes a second or two to lunge/charge from 10 or 20 feet away and be stabbing before an accurate shot can be placed.
Sometime true, a better counter to knife is batton. Force alternative needs to be justified.
Never bring a baton to a knife fight. You will probably die.
The cops don't have Tasers. I checked in with a coppper I know on the force in Chicago.
It turns out that only sergeants have Tasers and the right move would have been to wait for a sergeant OR waited until he brandished the knife and became an assailant and then light him up.
A guy 30 feet away from you possesses a knife and you think that justifies lethal force? You must be sucking some copcaulk!
Thirty feet, with a knife, and unresponsive is inside my security ring.
Go back into your safe space.
to be a human and a cop is to admit you need to risk your own life to save another..last resort is deadly force..LAST RESORT.
30 feet away with a knife? then wait until more cops show up ...you know they are just minutes away..if a civilian shot this kid he would have gone strait to jail, with tha cops saying hey the kid was 30 feet away, you were in no danger.
apply justice is blind cop or civilian both would be unjustified murder.
The Police should have mixed teams.
Dialogue: white cop to black cop
- "Nigga, this is yours, put him down. "
- "Ma pleasure dawg. Bang!"
#ScumLivesDon'tMatter
Then they can share some muslim spoils http://goo.gl/7tHnDu
Oh Rahm is involved? That's how you know it's a planned shit-show.
When does barry say it could have been him 20 years earlier?
He and Holder are so good at bringing people togther.
Those who don't want to take that shit when overseers be done with the duskies.
tmosley, he probably was up to no good but he didn't deserve to be shot and killed on the street, the police officer is not the judge and or executioner. I wouldn't shoot a dog that was up to no good walking down a street never mind a teenager.
I have no sympathy for him, and niether should you. If everyone behaved as he did, civilization would collapse INSTANTLY.
As it would if every cunt behaved like the cop.
No, I don't think it would, because most people don't behave like drugged out psychopaths, prompting their deaths.
I would have shot the kid had I been there and armed, with no police in the area. Had I been there and not armed and no police in the area, I would likely by lying on the ground bleeding to death.
Reminds me of the idiots defending the Muslim invasion. Even gays like Glenn Greenwald. How does he think he would be treated in a 100% Arab society? PROTIP: He would be stoned to fucking death, if they didn't hang him from a construction crane after castrating him.
You don't belong here.
Go back to Africa you ugly mutherfuckers where black matters!
They belong here just as much as any American. But they don't get a free pass to behave in the horrible way that they do.
free pass is their middle name.
Global Hunter u need to watch more "COPS" reruns on Spike TV its not that simple sometimes
Yes they do get a free pass. This cop should be given a medal for taking out the trash.
So it's a case of some folks got/get shot
It already "collapsed" dumb ass.
Nah. Not yet. We aren't at the end of the world, but I think we can see it from here.
Where are the protests for Kristiana Coignard?
absolutely agree
Murder it was, and people should care.
Officer was not being threatened, so yes, it is murder. Cops have to obey the law too. The blue shirt doesn't make you exempt.
"I wouldn't shoot a dog that was up to no good walking down a street never mind a teenager. "
lol, missed this part.
If you wouldn't shoot a rabid dog, then FUCK YOU. It's your fault Little Suzie down the road died a torturous death after being mauled.
Chumba was lucky he wasnt walking around that neighborhood....
I'd shoot a fucking dog just for the hell of it. Any dog.
I don't like tall pricks, and I don't like dogs.
Then I guess that makes you a sick puppy.
He didn't say "rabid" dog. Do you have reading comprehension problems or just using deception to try to win an argument?
"Sorry, kids, but when a police officer tells you to get on the ground, you do it."
Do you do the same when they ask you to get into the cattle car ?
I'm sorry, I must have missed the news story where blacks were being rounded up no matter what their behavior and being taken to death camps for being black.
If he was behaving that way on my property, I would have shot him too.
And when that goes south on you there will be three hots and a cot right next to some of the finest of LBJ's grandkids.
You've posted here before and this is some of your most poorly thought out emoting yet.
Oh really? I've posted here before? Amazingly insightful of you. And biting. Yes. Did you write that out all on your own?
I would have shot him if he was on my property heading towards me with a knife in a drugged induced rampage. We Texans Shoot to Kill But a Knife Wielder doesn't need 17 shots. You can easily shoot him multiple times in the leg and stop forward progress~Lord Ariok
And then there's that recent story - no link, sorry - where a gun-toting stand-my-ground Texan, witnessing a car-jacking as he pulled into a gas station, pulled out his gun and, OOPS! - shot and killed the driver who's car was being jacked. Like a true hero, he gathered up his casings and drove away, quickly.
You do know that it is illegal to shoot to wound, right?
If you draw your gun in an adversarial situation, it must be to kill. Anything else gets punished by our current legal system.
evidence? precedents? or you just too lazy to bother?
The way it's usually articulated is you you lethal force to "stop" the imminent threat to your or somebody else's life.
Self defense becomes murder when you continue to use lethal force on an assailant who is no longer a threat.
Call literally any criminal defense attorney. Apparently they teach that in lawyer kindergarten. Very, very basic stuff.
One in the thigh would have done the job
Warning shot anyone? Shit gets real when a gun goes off, doesn't need to be aimed. Dude was walking away, not towards the PIG. By tmosley's logic, tens of thousands would have been murdered in the 60's and 70's. You are a fearful person, tmosley, you regard life as nothing.
I'm damn sure you've never been on the other side of shot fired in anger, either.
A society is judged by how it treats the 'least' of its citizens. Murdering them in cold blood will have its consequences, black, white, brown or otherwise. And if you are black, not long ago bought and sold like cattle, raped, tortured, humiliated and devalued, well then you have a particularized greivance. The dude who got shot [murdered] is only a representation of that grievance.
Murder. Slaughter.
Call him a nigger again. Asshole.
"You are a fearful person, tmosley, you regard life as nothing. "
You shouldn't presume to know anything about the person on the other side of the screen.
Would you, personally, really allow this little shit to be the king of your property, waving a knife here and there, for all eternity?
Stop with your bullshit collectivism. My Irish ancestors didn't own any fucking slaves ("we" WERE fucking slaves, prick!), nor do those whose ancestors did need to feel bad because of it.
"The dude who got shot [murdered] is only a representation of that grievance."
What in the living fuck are you even talking about? Are you SERIOUSLY claiming this guy has the RIGHT to wave a knife around in a drug induced frenzy because of something that happened to his great GREAT GRANDPARENTS?
Get fucked NIGGER.
You've fucked with the wrong nigger, tmosley. póg mo thóin.
Tell me where in Ireland your Irish ancestors are from? The village? Do you even know if they drank Guinness or Murphy's? Can you name me one or more members of THE DUBLINERS? Can you tell me who Ronnie Drew was? Fuck you. Do you know who Ronan O'Gara is? Do you know one line from the song McApline's Fusillers or The Fields Athenreigh or Molly Malone? No, you useless bleeding cunt, you don't and you can't. I know you can't, just like the jackoff you are that knows nothing about everything and nothing at all, let alone persecution and oppression.
Your spew is putrid.
The guy who was murdered (not my words, the DA's): (a) was on public property: (b) posed no immediate threat [moving away]: (c)was owed a duty of care. That's why that cop is going away for a LONG time.
If a nigger Irishman was done the same way on the streets of Boston, then how do you think things might go?
Your idiocy is only surpassed by your ignorance. You cunt.
"And if you are black, not long ago bought and sold like cattle, raped, tortured, humiliated and devalued, well then you have a particularized greivance.."
That was 150 years ago. No Black alive today can claim your "particulurrized greevince".
And if you are black: housed, fed, clothed, coddled, given special treatment, and advanced far beyond your primitive capabilities solely due to the misplaced compassion of White America; well, then you have a particularized (sic) responsibility to live up to the civilized standards of the country that did all that for you.
So if you niggas wanna wander down the streets, wave weapons around, act like psychos, and attack police? Go do it in Africa, America is better off without you.
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Turn everything up in the headphones
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Yeah that's good, turn my vocals a little bit
with the upper bassline
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Posing like they hard when we know they damn card
what you figure, rhyme-wise, I do the figure eight
So concisely, musically we are the herb so sit back
and light me, inhale *inhalation noise*
My style is kinda fat reminescent of a whale
Young girls desires for the females dreams
I be the Abstract Poetic representin from Queens
Socially I'm not a name, black and white got game
If you came to the jam, well I'm glad you came
See, nigga first was used back in the Deep South
Fallin out between the dome of the white man's mouth
It means that we will never grow, you know the word dummy
Other niggas in the community think it's crummy
But I don't, neither does the youth cause we
em-brace adversity it goes right with the race
And being that we use it as a term of endearment
Niggas start to bug to the dome is where the fear went
Now the little shorties say it all of the time
And a whole bunch of niggas throw the word in they rhyme
Yo I start to flinch, as I try not to say it
But my lips is like the oowop as I start to spray it
My lips is like a oowop as I start to spray it
My lips is like a oowop as I start to spray the
Sucka nigga, nigga nigga
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It's the neo-nigga of the nineties, c'mon
I be hatin sucka MC's, and the sucka niggas
Posin like they hard when we know they damn card
what you figure, rhyme-wise, I do the figure eight
So concisely, musically we are the herb so sit back
and light me *inhalation noise* inhale *echoes*
My style is kinda fat reminescent of a whale
Young girls desires for the females dreams
I be the Abstract Poetic representin from Queens
Socially I'm not a name, black and white got game
If you came to the jam well I'm glad you came
See, nigga first was used down in the Deep South
Fallin out between the dome of the white man's mouth
It means that we will never grow, you know the word dummy
Other niggas in the community think it's crummy
But I don't, neither does the youth cause we
em-brace adversity it goes right with the race
Yo I start to flinch, as I try not to say it
But my lips is like the oowop as I start to spray it
My lips is like a oowop as I start to spray it
My lips is like a oowop, yo you know the rest
The sucka niggas, niggas niggas
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they made money with this crap ????
Also, what language is this cause I could not understand anything
This way they made sure he won't threaten anyone else from a speeding wheelchair in the future.
Niggas are animals. Animals don't understand language only violence. Cops are cops, NOT animal trainers, so there you have it.
This:
Texans Shoot to Kill But a Knife Wielder doesn't need 17 shots. You can easily shoot him multiple times in the leg and stop forward progress~Lord Ariok
You are fucking retarded and watch too much TV.
Legally, When you shoot, you SHOOT TO FUCKING KILL and if you don't then the courts feel that your live was not in Jepordy and you therefore should not have shot in the first place.
Tactically, In a GUN VS KNIFE fight, you shoot A LOT, it's called "zipping them up" you start low and shoot up the center line until the assaliant drops. Watch tactical videos of knife vs gun and how fast knife figjhters can close 20 feet, then tell me how you are going to carefully aim to "shoot his fucking legs"
Morally - you only shoot when you have the right to shoot.
a trait lacking in almost 100% of officer involved shootings since 2001.
"You can easily shoot him multiple times in the leg and stop forward progress~Lord Ariok"
you've never shot anyone have you...
you aim for center mass and you keep pulling the trigger until the target stops whatever they were doing that was threatening you, or until you run out of bullets, whichever comes first...
what's with this "we Texans" stuff, you got a mouse in your pocket? I don't know who trained you how to use a firearm for self defense but they're dead fucking wrong...
I know if there were video of me shooting someone that was walking away and posed no immediate threat to my safety, I'd be toast, legally speaking.
I don't think cops should get a free pass just due to someone ignoring them. Kid could easily have been stoned out of his mind or in medical crisis. This smoke-anyone-that-disobeys orders attitude is bullshit, and while you might think it's OK to waste some high druggie, it also ends up with cops killing deaf people[1] [2] and lighting up diabetics in need of emergency medical attention [1] [2] [3].
The police kill count is over 1000 for the year. That's nearing 10% of all firearm homicides. Yet we keep seeing videos like this, like the homeless guy in ABQ being set up. None of this is the victim on an above-the-law power trip, it's the cops taking that particular ride.
Proportional response is a thing. This shit keeps up and people are going to get murdered for jaywalking.
I'm pretty sure I saw dust from at least two overpenetrations/misses long after he was down. What the fuck was that cop thinking?
Any chance more holes were added at the morgue to splash gas on all of this? I now suspect that TPTB are looking for sketchy ploice shootings to enhance qnd highlight. Turning very questionable shootings into multi magazine atrocities almost makes more sense than what is being presented.
You are correct, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking dipshit.
Where the fuck are you getting your data from? 10%?
In Chicago, that number is 1.54%.
Go to www.heyjackass.com and use a calculator. You've probably got the kind with the really big number buttons on it in your toybox.
Cite or don't post.
OT, but as a Rush fan I logged in to give you a +1 for the screen name Analog.
Here's The Counted project by the Guardian, it's the first serious effort to count all police homicides [1]. YTD: 1027, of these 908 were firearm homicides by police.
The US firearm homicides were 8,124 in 2014 according to the UCR. Total homicides were 11,961. [2]
Using that big-number button calculator and a box of fucking crayolas to do the math, my 3rd-grade education informs me that 908/ 8,124 = 11.2% of firearm homicides are by police.
If we use the total homicide number, it's 1,027 / 11,961, or 8.5% -- e.g. nearly 10% of total homicides. Note that this is using incomplete date for 2015, so it's under-estimating the police homicide data. We don't have 2015 data for the total murders yet, but that figure is likely not changed much from 2014.
And FYI, I probably cite more than 95% of the posters on this site.
I've cited, it's over 10% for firearm homicides, so STFU.
Only he wasn't "walking away"
He was skipping away, then spinning around, with a hand in his pocket... all after being told multiple times to get his hands where the cops could see them, and failing to comply.
This kid played stupid games with cops and he won a stupid prize.
That guy who got shot in the back by the white cop and then the white cop moved his "taser" to make it look like a crime scene that wasn't , that was a crime.
This is just a moron druggie who wouldn't comply, and got his ass handed to him.
I am happy to say a jury will decide whether that cop committed murder. You can mentally masturbate around the video all you like.
I'm sure that has already occurred.
Don't jaywalk in Austin...
http://usa.streetsblog.org/2015/11/09/brutal-jaywalking-arrest-in-austin...
"Sorry, kids, but when a police officer tells you to get on the ground, you do it."
Exactly what the founders thought about the red coats (as the police are now a standing army).
They just laid their arms down and pleaded with the Brits to go back.
Police are all good people. Our government is totally ordained by god and jesus is behind the wheel.(/sarc)
This idiot isn't leading a revolution. He's a criminal. If you, a colonial, got drunk and went around town waving a knife and threatening people, then yes, the fucking Redcoats would be justified in shooting you, as would I, or anyone else.
Fuck, all you idiots are slaves to your ideologies you can't even entertain the notion that some group that you hate could EVER be in the right EVER.
I hate police as much or more than anyone. Actually more. A lot more. But doing something that is justified for anyone to do doesn't make the little nig into fucking MLK, a martyr for freedom, equality, and whatever. It makes him an abusive little shit that crossed the wrong fucking gang.
You gotta remember, most of these people haven't had direct contact with "those blacks". They are lucky if they saw Thomas Sowell on Youtube or the black guy in their community college.
They haven't lived in a ghetto before.
Ok, I dinged ya a little on the other Russ/Turk TOW thread, but I gotta agree with you in this one, whole heartedly. There's some stupid level of brainwashed guilt trip going on for the faggots that have never lived in the wrong side of the tracks. Granted, there are some real good, down to earth people there too, but unfortunately there is a majority of idiotic fucks that ruin it for everyone. And if you haven't lived through it - especially being a minority - you have no fucking clue how closely this follows a genetic trait and not a random mutation.
Except the cops life was not in danger when he shot, and shot, and shot, and shot......
A knife has an advantage over a sheathed gun at 30 feet. Don't know how much it drops for an unsheathed gun, but if someone were 15 feet from me with a knife right now high on drugs and intent on murdering me, I can guarantee that I wouldn't be able to finish this post because I would be on the floor bleeding to death, having been fully unable to reach the shotgun I have leaning against my desk.
Stop underestimating how much damage a knife can do in a single second.
you'd think all the Rambos posting would have heard the saying, "rush a gun, run from a knife"... I guess common sense isn't common...
Sergeant Dennis Tueller, of the Salt Lake City, Utah Police Department wondered how quickly an attacker with a knife could cover 21 feet (6.4 m), so he timed volunteers as they raced to stab the target. He determined that it could be done in 1.5 seconds. These results were first published as an article in SWAT magazine in 1983 and in a police training video by the same title, "How Close is Too Close?"[1]
A defender with a gun has a dilemma. If he shoots too early, he risks being charged with murder. If he waits until the attacker is definitely within striking range so there is no question about motives, he risks injury and even death. The Tueller experiments quantified a "danger zone" where an attacker presented a clear threat.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill
Qualifier: I have not watched the video yet (I don't want to see a kid shot), but this is your point. The distance can be closed very fast AND in close quarters a knife many times is better than a handgun in terms of doing damage.
There is a BIG difference between someone who is trained, or experienced, in using a knife and the vast majority who are not. This "knife more dangerous than a gun" bullshit is....bullshit. Speaking as someone with many years of experience in several martial arts, who practices with knife and gun (among other weapons), and who has trialed the knife-vs-gun scenario many times. I'd take the gun, thank you.
A drugged-out kid with a knife is not a serious threat to a man with a gun. Particularly when he is (apparently) walking away from the man with the gun. I don't care how fucking close he is.
I agree. But I also understand the dynamics of this shooting perfectly. It's the cops going by the book. It's a bad book, but they wrote it, and the courts back it up. Sadly for this cop, he wasn't thinking it through. This shooting isn't just applying a Tueller Drill metric, the totality of circumstances will be weighed, and the cop will be ruled a fucking moron. More bad training. Justifiable Homicide also weighs the totality of the environment, disparity of force issues and the immediacy and avoidability of the threat.
None of those very necessary conditions have been met. Regardless how you feel about the black dude flaunting police instructions--that's a whole separate can of worms I have issues with as well--I can guarantee you this cop is going to jail. If his defense is smart in the slightest he will blame everything on insufficient training standards in his department, might get plead down to manslaughter.
Sad.
MsCreant, ever disarm anyone with a knife?? I have, and never once did I need to shoot them. carried a .45 1911, and in one case I put the gun right in the nose of the guy with a butcher knife..I asked him what you have for breakfast today?? cause it will be your last. he dropped the knife.
funny thing is did not have a round in the chamber but a .45 at close range looks like a cannon.
much like the shooting of Miram Carey that young black mother in DC, cops today kill without mercy. She had no weapon, and not one big brave ss cop or dc police officer walked up to her and put her in cuffs..fuck them all.
Reality on the ground vs. myth. Tueller Drill
I watched that before. YT "dont underestimate the knife"
but
21 feet in 1.5 seconds is still meaningless when a few cops already have their weapons drawn, it might as well be 50 feet the "knife attacker" would have to run.
The cops wear bulletproof vests. They chose to stand where they did. They could have remained in their vehicle. The deceased was on a consistent heading away from the cop cars.
I disagree with the laughable notion that a knife is anywhere near as dangerous as a gun @ 30 feet. That guy isnt Chavez E Chavez from Young Guns. . .
Hope that cop gets bent over and dicked real hard. . .
but 16 shots in what 8 seconds, now who is the agressor!
one shot two shot maybe ok but 16 is MURDER and by another name is REDRUM!
Which ever one you can understand better.
Empty the magazine.
That is the only way I hear them practice on the range.
Someone is training them that way, and I can't say as I have an argument.
Bullets are made every day; no matter how shitty life becomes , you are only made once.
From the left side of the dash video, looks like LEOs had a clear shot behind target due to construction area, so less concern about over-penetration or ricochet.
tmosley = ass clown minus half a sissy.
where's your irish ass now? dickhead.
what was his crime? what revolution? exactly what the fuck are you talking about other than hearing yourself talk?
Call him a nigger again. Motherfucker.
"I hate police as much or more than anyone. Actually more. A lot more." -- tmosley
You shouldn't presume to know anything about the person on the other side of the screen. -- tmosley
Contradiction here. Are you saying stuff just to win an argument?
I have to agree, this is overblown
1) He's in the middle of the street, has probably been told to stop, put his hands up, and/or get on the ground several times before we see him on dash cam.
2) Instead of complying, he continues merrily skipping around, while keeping a hand in his pocket
3) Just before the shooting starts, he begins to spin around.
Honestly, I think this cop had every reason to think the kid was about to pull a gun from his pocket.
That doesn't excuse the cop from not confirming his target, confirming there was an actual threat to his life before he shot. For that, I believe manslaughter is probably the worst he should get. But not first degree murder, no way.
Play stupid games with the cops, get stupid prizes.
16 shots means kill him so he cannot sue me!
The kid suicided himself.
Yup, cop culpability, but the kid offed himself.
"Sorry, kids, but when a police officer tells you to get on the ground, you do it."
Mosley, when the cop tells you to drop your pants and bend over so he can plow your hershey highway, you do it, asshole. Police über alles.
Notice they waited till it got COLD in the windy city before they released this. Not even in August or September.
And right before Thanksgiving, give the dindus a few days to forget.
Ruh Roh. It's going to be in the 50's in Chicago over Thanksgiving. That's bad weather for duck hunting, but that's 'killing' weather in the Chi.
Every spring, without fail, when the temp rises over 70 on a weekend night, 10-20 shootings are reported the next day, with 6-12 dead bodies on the ground.
RACE WAR!!!! C'mon folks, we need to stay distracted from our enslavement to bankers.
The Bankers are all Jews. So that is just another facet of the same issue.
The CENTRAL bankers are all Jews. Mostly.
Pretty unlikely when you think about it. But I'm sure there is no nepotism within the tribe.
Yep, thank the FSM that this kid only had a knife, whew.
Too bad law abiding citizens will not be able to protect life and property in the most restrictive gun control state and city in damm near the entire country.
Only the gang bangers and their adversaries, the other big gang in town, the policies are allowed to have guns.
Everyone else can fuck off and die.
Thanks, Rahm !
Thanks, O'Blammie !
Thanks, Bloomburg !
Thanks, gun control !
Very convenient that the camera doesn't pick up the officer shooting most of the shots. Your telling me that the other cars didn't have an angle that would show it?
Makes you wonder why they position their cars/cameras to film this murder. And then later let the entire world watch it. Things aren't what they seem.
"Makes you wonder why they position their cars/cameras to film this murder. And then later let the entire world watch it. Things aren't what they seem."
Keep em distracted. Pay no attention to the Zionist behind the curtain.
Neither should you pay attention to the dozens of black on black murders which occur each weekend in Chicongo.
Poor poor Rahm "Tiny Dancer" Emanuel, he just can't seem to catch a break or so it seems. First he helps bankrupt the place and now he'll play his part in burning it to the ground.
I'm seeing a pattern developing here ;-)
But he's so cute in his leotards!
For the "old timers" ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-L0NpaErkk
Nice! Not sure what is going on here, but it appears Rahm is having a face crisis.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RyS-D5au-gU
When it gets serious on the financial side, mayor of big cities are also selected, rather than elected if u know what i mean,,,,,,,,When ever we have financial issues things seem to happen along with the race cards and things blowing up
When do we think Chicago Mayor Emanuel to be charged with conspiracy for the murder cover-up?
Goes with the territory
maniacal laughter
@ Teamdepends- The only murders that matter are those that can be used to push the anti-gun agenda. But I'm preaching to the choir here.
Like the 9-year-old child who was executed on November 2.
"Chicago police are investigating whether a 9-year-old boy shot repeatedly at close range and killed was “lured and targeted” as part of a series of retaliatory gang killings, a law enforcement source said Tuesday."
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1068520/search-killer-9-year-old-t...
Wackoism.
Looks like they edited the active shooter out.
Meanwhile in Chicago, blacks continue to be shot by other blacks in record numbers.
Current stats:
http://heyjackass.com/category/2015-chicago-crime-murder-stats/
Another future neuro-surgen or statesman cut down before his time.
So they indicted the guy for 1st degree murder.
Will they also indict the guys that trained/programmed him?
Intent was programmed into this cop. I wouldn't be surprised at
all if it turns out he(or his trainers) had combat experience.
Don't these Departments know that combat disqualifies a guy from
being a cop? The gangs may be at war with each other, but not the cops.Why blow the kid away? He
wasn't carrying an IED unless it was in the cop's PTSD soaked imagination.
Our Governor wants to "help vets" by giving them priority hiring status for State jobs...also, he says, they "make great cops"...dumbass.
Cops LISTEN UP...The majority of you are OK guys...BUT...like ALL professions, you have a few really bad coworkers...and this is where you really fuck yourself...a cop does something completely outrageous and instead of kicking his/her ass to the street, or to prison, you back them, make excuses, stall, hire lawyers...to US, that makes ALL of you look like pieces of shit...IMMEDIATE PUBLIC shitcanning of bad cops would do a lot to improve your level of public respect.
Local event played out over a couple years:
1. Out of control cop beats the hell out of someone.
2. City almost immediately fires him...GREAT!
3. Police Union cries foul, files grievance.
4. "Domestic Dispute" calls to his apartment, multiple times, spread out over ~2 years...never arrested...union still fighting for his job back.
5. "Domestic Dispute"..."shots fired"...he strangled his girl friend to death then shot himself in the head.
6. Union stops trying to get him his job back; now that he's dead!
This is, essentially, the next great war. As long as Good cops protect BAD cops, there will be little distinction when the city wars come. The police need to do their housekeeping now and in public to avoid all cops becoming targets when the shit hits the fan...
I have many family that are cops and I fear for them when this thing errupts. But it will errupt and then it will be too late for departments to prove that they were loyal to the people and not the thin blue line.
This is scarry shit. I hope the smarter ones are paying attention. The rogues will die on the road, but if the honest cops try to punish, there will be a bloodbath. There is nothing the public can do, except resist. No one will agree to "Submit to all cops" if the cops are dirty.
Only the cops can clean this shit up. It is their mess.
"Good cop" staying silent for benefit of bad cop = "Good Islamist" staying silent when "bad islamist" goes full jihadi.
someone needs to put a brand on your forehead that says "I'm a DUMBASS"
how bout we indict the democrat party for ruining millions of black families by giving them handouts instead of a hand up? you wouldn't know the truth if it crawled up your chuffer...
these idiots run around like the own the place and with impunity...i hope one of those lovely people plays the knockout game on you, might just wake you up, then again i fear you are too far gone
It's come out that the entire shooting was captured on a security camera at a burger king as well, and CPD came and deleted the footage.
The evidence (and how there's a lack of it) is really pointing to this being a very dirty shoot. Apparently the cop shooting reloaded and was going to start up again but was stopped by another officer.
He's being charged with first degree murder while being held without bail. It's not like he's walking around free man. As it should be.
Isn't it weird that we can solve the little mysteries so quickly but we can never explain big ones like WT7 or MH-17.
yeah dat black boy wudn't lettin' no cocaine o' d'meth goin' ta waste eithah, but dey shoot da bruthah down in d'prime of hid life...couldah been a contendah...