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It Wasn't Us - Pentagon Shrugs At "Exaggerating, Sloppy, Uncaring" Russian Jet Shootdown
The Pentagon's army colonel Steve Warren has made it clear how Washington feels about the unraveling situation in Syria. In not so many words, Warren explained 'not our problem', pointing out the Russian jet shootdown is "a Russia-Turkey issue," and that US was not ionvolved. He then quickly moved on to the propaganda section of the briefing, explaining how "sloppy, uncaring" Russia was "exaggerating" its achievements in Syria.
- *WARREN SAYS RUSSIAN JET SHOOTDOWN A TURKEY-RUSSIA ISSUE
- *WARREN SAYS SHOOTDOWN NOT ISSUE INVOLVING U.S.-BACKED COALITION
The Pentagon explains, it wasn't us...
“Our Turkish Allies informed us that their military aircraft shot down a Russian military aircraft near the Syrian border after it violated Turkish airspace on Tuesday. At this time, we can confirm that US forces were not involved in this incident,” the official said.
#Pentagon Col. Warren also slams #Russians "sloppy military work" in #Syria + "there is no reason for aircraft to fly where they shouldn't"
— Natasha Mozgovaya (@mozgovaya) November 24, 2015
And Bloomberg headlines explain how Washington really feels...
- *WARREN SAYS RUSSIA EXAGGERATED SAYING IT DESTROYED 500 TRUCKS
- *WARREN SAYS NO U.S. PERSONNEL IN AREA WHERE RUSSIA JET DOWNED
- *WARREN SAYS RUSSIAN PLANE DIDN'T RESPOND TO TURKISH WARNINGS
- *WARREN SAYS RUSSIAN MILITARY STRIKES ARE `SLOPPY,' UNCARING
- *WARREN CITES REPORTS OF HIGH CIVILIAN CASUALTIES FROM RUSSIA
Finally,
Warren says it can confirm that the Turks warned the Russian plane 10 times before shooting down the jet.
He said they were working to establish exactly where the plane was when it was shot down.
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The stupidity in this country is breath taking. I suppose he uttered the words he was told to do.
They've finally learned about making claims as to what the actual facts are when they don't actually know or know that they're false.
If the past is any indicator, Russia was pulling their usual provocative tricks thinking nobody would step up to them. They were wrong and someone armed with a US made weapon knew he had teh upper hand over cheap Russian crap. This is Putins fault and nobody else's.
May your body be consumed in nuclear fire first.
This is a turkey-russia problem? Oh, just like we told Saddam that it was an Iraqi-Kuwaiti problem 25 years ago?
"WARREN SAYS RUSSIA EXAGGERATED SAYING IT DESTROYED 500 TRUCKS"
At least they supplied video, instead of after 3-4 years there the Pentagon the same week announced it had destroyed 100 trucks.
as an american, i feel ashamed that what putin and the russians say is more credible, direct, and honest than what our pathetic excuses for government/military say. i only hope the rest of the world recognizes that it's our shit government and military that talk/think this way, and not we the people.
WARREN SAYS RUSSIAN JET SHOOTDOWN A TURKEY-RUSSIA ISSUE
My interpretation of this statement is that Turkey, due to its own stupidity and duel complicity, is on its own and any retaliation by Russia will not be covered under NATO Article 5. Article 5 states that " an attack on one Ally shall be considered an attack on all Allies."
Vlad just received the implicit go-ahead (as if he needed permission) to implement a rebuttal in the form of a "Turkey shoot" on those responsible.
So when Vlad creates a no fly zone over all of Syria excluding Israeli, French and US aircraft, is that just a Syria-Russia issue?
Bring on the S400's
Bart Simpson diplomacy - "I didn't do it."
Sloppy military work? Does that mean the Russians may have injured some Turkish oil tanker drivers?
Turkey just put herself on a straight path towards a world of hurt:
http://goo.gl/VhZdyZ
Commence no-fly zone on the border region between Syria-Turkey in Latakia. Putin will deny Turkey it's own airspace in that region where they are operating. Russia's pilots & SAM operators will have orders to shoot first and ask questions later when it comes to Turkey's air assets. Russia may even take out Turkey's SAM sites too.
I'm sure Vlad's aware of that rule and will be cautious of whatever the fuck the Pentagram or U.S. Gov-scum say that might invite Putin to attack Turkey.
They may be saying they won't involved now just to fake Vlad into attacking. After that they'll get all kinds of involved and continue to blame Russia for this whole mess.
I'm sure Vlad, as usual, is more than just a few steps ahead of these guys on the chess board right now.
You only hope? Did the US just bomb the Govs of the countries we didn't like? You are a US citizen, collateral damage just as our Gov has inflicted on countless foreign soils. WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR GOVERNMENTS ACTIONS. But we as a country are too pussy and PC, squabbling about fucking nonsense as our Gov fucks the world up in our name, to do anything about it.
I agree with you both. On one hand, we have no say in who runs the government any more. It's now government of the people, by the puppets, for the banksters.
On the other hand, if a majority of our populace wasn't dumbed down, numbed out and utterly self-absorbed, we'd have gotten the pitchforks and torches out by now.
Years ago there was a video of a State Dept. representative (I think her name was Katherine Brown), where Saddam asked what the consequences would be if he escalated his situation with Kuwait, he was told that "we have little interest in the region", or something like that. The video hasn't been able to be found for quite a few years now.
Why would any developed country with a modern air force and navy need to exaggerate about how well it has been targeting people with no air force, and almost no SAM capability?
Pure propaganda. I'm not suggesting that Russia is more effective than the U.S., but this is literally target practice.
Fucking barbarians, all of them including the amoral idiots in Washington.
AND WE'RE GREEN...
When those big chesp Russian nukes fly hopefully you will have a frint seat.
Your ignorance, stupidity and general fuck-headedness is amazing....Unfortunately there are too fucking many of you around!
"...At this time, we can confirm that US forces were not involved in this incident,”
Poster on Pentagon wall:
Not Our Monkeys...
Plausable deniability...
Dindu nuffin bro...
Look-it.. US military has looked like a total buffoon after the russians did something in weeks where the US couldn't do in 20 years. Of course the dick is going to be a dick.
So it's a NATO of convienience then?
Did the American spokesman say anything at all about the American made and supplied TOW anti-tank missile destroying the downed Russian CSAR helo?
It's only breathtaking if you don't expect it.
Uh - Ok got it, now can we please get on with more Natasha...?
What an asshole
Following the script.
Not are problem??? So Turkey can get bitched slapped by Russia, since it's not are problem. Rightttt
No, that's different.
Wait for it, he will come with a reason why.
Nuland's husband Kagan calling for US ground forces in Syria... 50,000 troops... How is it Amercians stand for this shit?
#BecauseFootball
"Nuland's husband Kagan"
These Obama nut-jobs are also salivating about the thought of nuclear war.
Kagan, Kaganonich... Oh, the Tribe...
They maybe don't stand for it, but they don't care.. But they will once the hell starts happening on the US soil.
Recommend reading this post:
Auslander goes behind enemy lines
http://thesaker.is/usa-sitrep-november-21-by-auslander/
An american back at home after years abroad.
Since when do "Americans" fit into the equation any more? The liberals stopped caring about war once 0bama was selected, and your average conservative is so worn down by 0bama's lies and bullshit and complete foreign policy failure that they don't know what to think about anything anymore.
Anyways. If you bother to think about it, the odds that 0bama puts 50,000 troops in Syria is about a million to one against. 0bama is a pro-Muslim and pro-ISIS, and ISIS is a CIA golem run amok, which everyone seems to recognize except the CIA itself. Furthermore, the CIA is headed up by John Brennan, a crypto-Muslim who converted during his time in Saudi Arabia, so it's clear that no one that matters is going to do anything that threatens militant Islamic organizations like ISIS. Kagan can be safely ignored, most likely he is just throwing up a straw man that 0bama can "bravely oppose".
The odds that Obama puts 50K in Syria is way higher than that. Geez.
If he was such a militant muzzie, how come he serves the neocons and israel so well?
Either him or the next president will send 50-100K soldiers to Syria. Unless a ray of reason reasserts itself.
Mooeeehahwa, "Fucking Americans".
I hate these people.
This is the quality of leadership we have. NONE
jUST A FILTHY LYING PIECE OF SHIT, Maybe he will get his transfer to Turkey and get treated like the Russian Officers just did.
God. I hate these people too.
Wow, the nuclear armed Russians are being provoked big time. Not good.
Poke..........poke......poke.....poke...poke.BOEM.
My layman guess is all bombing runs on Alan's Snackbar will have fighter escorts from now on kicking things up a notch.
Dont we have AWACS flying there to support activities?
That sort of thing, in that theater of operations would strictly a NATO asset, boy!
Son, let me tell you that we are in NATO. I really need to examine some info I came across regarding the oil dealing in Turkey by an individual whose company (american) is also involved with projects in Pakistan.
What really bothers me is the plane shot down over the Sinai and how Egypt has pointed a finger at Turkey for supporting ISIS in the Sinai/Egypt region. Now we all know that Russia has good relations with Egypt but there are those would would love to see tension between them. This gets uglier by the hour.
So... no wedding parties or hospitals then? ... how uncaring and sloppy.
Plausible deniability. Stay classy USA....
Propaganda is what The Pentagram does best these days. Heaven forbid they should show any proficiency in defending the best interests of the country.
*WARREN SAYS RUSSIA EXAGGERATED SAYING IT DESTROYED 500 TRUCKS
How many trucks did USSA destroy in 1.5 years of "active bombing", huh?
*WARREN SAYS RUSSIAN MILITARY STRIKES ARE `SLOPPY,' UNCARING
Good to know that USSA & "friends" strikes on hospitals, weddings etc. are not "sloppy" and "uncaring"
*WARREN SAYS RUSSIAN MILITARY STRIKES ARE `SLOPPY,' UNCARING
hmmm usa afgan hospital bombing oh wait they actually bombed the hospitals very carefully
You get time to make your target selections when attacking with a AC-130 Spectre for over an hour.
Hey, c'mon, maybe somebody misunderstood the expression "surgical strike."
Do they have "Bagdad Bob" in their PR department or what?
Statements by the Ministry of Truth must be believed! Don't be a traitor to the lies of State.
Who even knows what to believe anymore.
definitely not what warren says
Or any other "official" or "authority".
Don't trust anyone in a suit and a security detail.
hint: mouth is moving
I guess these guys have their luxury bunkers all set and ready.
The release of Fallout 4 was timed to prepare the masses for their new life in the nuclear wasteland.
I know this is real because I can always wake myself up from bad dreams.
I can imagine a gamer mistaking his bedroom window for his monitor not far into the future.
Do solar panels work off of nuclear "glow"?
I've got a feeling the EMP would be hard on the circuitry.
I've got a case of Nuka-Cola and a huge statsh of stimpacks. I'm ready for the perma glow.
Seriously though, Washington DC is the greatest threat to national security ever. These swamp dwelling pricks are truly insane.
So,
no problem for USA
if Russia/Syria start shooting down jets based in Turkey that
CLEARLY violate Syrian airspace?
(It's just a Turkey/Syria issue)
All that Assad has to do is declare a no-fly zone for all but Syrian and Russian planes.
Turkey is a member of NATO. It is our problem.
That's OK. I heard Obama will pardon Turkey soon.
they had to ask nato first before shooting down plane
Turkey would not have dared do this were it not for NATO/US
backing AND urging.
NATO and Pentagon leaders have been chomping at the bit
for a confrontation with Russia.
Same for US political leadership and war hawk advisors.
The US should “disarm” the Russians in Syria - Brzezinski said
Presidential aspirant Carly Fiorina said she wants Washington to enforce a no-fly zone in Syria – even if it means shooting down Russian aircraft, claiming:
“Russian jets have been basically conducting dangerous and unpredictable maneuvers around our (sic) water and our (sic) borders and our (sic) territory.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/dangerous-crossroads-lunatics-in-washington...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-should-attempt-to-disarm-russians-in-syr...
She is too stupid to have an opinion.
All presidential "aspirants" are told what their opinions are....
WTH?
Syria is an independent, sovereing nation. They have a right for self determination as any other country.
"create a no fly zone over Syria cause it's Our water and our borders!".
The Hubris.
Jubris before the fall.
I believe the actual quote from Warren was "Candy-stripper cancer ward. Not my problem"
"Warren says it can confirm that the Turks warned the Russian plane 10 times before shooting down the jet."
This will turn out to be a complete lie no doubt. Once again we rely on Russia to save all our asses. I doubt he will over react because they want him too. He will make a calm and measured decision to fuck up the coalition of evil without leaving an excuse for NATO to engage.
I would understand if he launched at Turkey (Erdogan in particular), Israel and Saudi Arabia.... but he wont. Someday motherf*ckers!
"He will make a calm and measured decision ..."
History does not agree with your guess. More likely some Turkish soldiers will be captured and killed and their genitals stuffed in their mouths.... Not saying that they don't deserve something, just that the response will be significant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes
But did they use a radio or just shout?
*WARREN SAYS RUSSIAN MILITARY STRIKES ARE `SLOPPY,' UNCARING...
OMG. BIG. BRASS. BALLZ. FROM SOMEONE WHO BOMBS HOSPITALS, WEDDING PARTIES, ORPHANAGES.
But those were precision strikes.
We are truly total ASSHOLES!!
This country really deserves to implode on its rotting, morally bankrupt self!!
This country is rotten from the neck up.
Don't include yourself or your peers in your hatred.
I sure as fuck never wanted to bomb anyone.
WARREN CITES REPORTS OF HIGH CIVILIAN CASUALTIES FROM RUSSIA
300,000 killed in Syria and 3.5 million killed in Iraq by illegal US/NATO wars
About 3.5 million Iraqis have died since 1990 and over 300,000 Syrians have died since the US ramped up its efforts to unseat Assad as it had done Gaddafi.
More than 1,000,000 Syrians have been injured and more than 4.1 million refugees have been created in Syria.
The greatest terrorism is US illegal wars masquerading as nation building and bringing freedom and democracy. The only freedom served by the US is freedom from life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-201...
And the UN's contribution:
Ban Ki-moon Urges Russia to Unite with “America’s [Fictitious] War against ISIS”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ban-ki-moon-urges-russia-to-unite-with-amer...
I never thought that in my lifetime I would see mass murder akin to genocide in the Middle East like what my family suffered in the Armenian Genocide in 1915.
And the primary blame for it must be on the US and their Anglosphere and EU vassals.
West go to hell! After five hundred years of deceit and plunder of the rest of the world!
Our best hope is that Russia will prevail against the evil West.
Unfortunately it wont. The USA will, in the end, rule the world and "lead" it and force it to do its will.
"He said they were working to establish exactly where the plane was when it was shot down."
and if they discover it was in syrian airspace they will doctor or delete their satellite images.
We are still waiting for the US satellite/radar observation report
regarding the MH17 shoot down. The BUK missile leaves a clear trail that would allow the origin of the launch to be pinpointed.
Also, where are the US satellite photos showing who had BUK missiles and where?
He stopped short of blaming the Russian plane for crossing the path of the missile as it casually flew by.
*WARREN SAYS RUSSIAN JET SHOOTDOWN A TURKEY-RUSSIA ISSUE
LIE TURKEY NATO MEMBER THEY HAVE TO ASK NATO FIRST BEFORE THEY CAN SHOOT DOWN ANY PLANE
AND THE NATO HAVE TO ASK CIA FIRST
If this "Bird" is any indication of the effectiveness of the US Armed Forces; the US is likely to be taken down by Albania!
Just stick that "chin" out a little more....
"sloppy and uncaring".
Washington knows no bounds. Their hubris and arrogance is growing by the minute.
"Uncaring" in the way that Russia isn't dropping warning leaflets before they bomb ?
Oh, and markets green by the end of the day...
MOAR and MOAR war and death are great for the markets. BTFD assholes!!
US has became a slimeball.. Almost as bad as communists.
*WARREN SAYS RUSSIAN JET SHOOTDOWN A TURKEY-RUSSIA ISSUE
Definition of a true Zionist!
Use thy neighbor as "bait" until you have nobody else watching your six because you are and always have been about self-preservation...
This is why NATO at Russia's doorstep is falling apart!!!
This is why NATO at Russia's doorstep is falling apart!!!
For reasons that now look obvious to the whole world. The USSA has screwed over just about every nation who called itself an ally. With Israel a notable exception.
as an american, this is fucking embarrassing.
1. the russian pilot was EXECUTED as he tried parachuting to safety AND THIS is your response???
2. would have been a nice gesture if we sent in our U.S. marines to assist in getting the russian OUT of hostile territory so they wouldn't whind-up on an ISIS video
3. the rebels who shot the russian pilots - if you give weapons to someone(s), you have a responsibility IMO to be responsible for those people u are arming. how many fucking times do i have to listen to obama talk about wanting to take our guns away because the mother of a mentally sick kid takes the guns, shoots the mom, and then blasts-up a school. same rules apply here.
Hillary will argue, what difference does it make? They supported the Clinton Foundation. This is going to unwind swiftly for her. Again, if the FBI doesn't do it's job. The mother load of lies will hit the Internet.
NATO article 5, strictly speaking, only covers the European part of Turkey.
Turkey is shitting his pants now because at the emergency NATO meeting they will be told "He, it wasn't us".
That fits into my theory that Turkey is being used as a sacrificial pawn.
That fits into my theory that Turkey is being used as a sacrificial pawn.
I see nothing, I see nothing ...Sargent Schultz
NATO's Plan to Divide the Middle East, Oded Yonin, Bernard Lewis ...
Oded Yinon Plan 1982
Three seconds to midnight?
Let's give it to them that they were right about all they said (they are not, other commenters have dealt with that topic fine).
Why no comment on executing the Russian pilots, huh?
were all fuked
DeathCon 111
Timesup
"While we have used every crisis anywhere in the world to further American crony corporate interests, today for the first time in a decade or so we say" It's none of our business"
Montego Bay 1982, Rio de Janeiro
Responsibility of international organizations - United Nations Treaty ...
1. Was the plane shot in Turkish airspace
2. Did it land in Syria?
The Irony is the Obama Administration doesn't trust its own citizens with guns.
My thoughts and prayers (to Anu not YHWH) to the family of the valiant Russians fighting against Zio Tyranny
However, this is war. Did we really think at some point a bomber jet would tnot get picked off?
Not trying to be insesntive, I wish Putin were my President. Just realistic. In war, soldiers die
Russia is not infallible but I cant wait for Putin's asymmetrical response
He should default on Russia's Western debts
Fuck Warren
Civilians have been dying by the hundreds of thousands in Syria for years while the US continued to support the proxy armies that contributed to the instability. So keep that in mind when you read things like the following bullshit from Warren!
...couldn't command or control his way from here to the curb.
Seems legit, in a US Administration that is completely bereft of any real leadership skills.
Dindu Obama leads the JV team to the apacolypse, the leader of free war and inflation exports.
Somebody tell this Pentagon SOB that Turkey's Incirlik airbase, home of the US 39th airbase wing is one of the largest US airforce bases in the world. The "Nothing to do with us" bullshit does not compute with facts.
Based on results...if the Russians are sloppy, what does that make us?
If only the USA had not allowed ISIS to be portrayed as the 'greatest threat to humanity since Hitler'™ then we would not look so weak as we proclaim to be fighting them and failing. Russia would not appear to be so heroic.
If only our 'NATO Ally' Turkey was not ruled by a Muslim fundamentalist wack job who rigs election and 'kills his own people'™ (there may be a trade mark violation by Turkey here as the US patent office already awarded that title to Assad)...so many 'if onlys'....Why the U.S. is involved:
It was a U.S. anti-tank missile that downed the Rescue Helicopter , probably given to rebels by Obama just recently.
Why it matters:
Because the Russian Jet was probably outside of Turkish airspace more or less and the Turkish F-16 probably pursued farther than it should of.
And because the pilots were executed after they pulled the chutes.
As for Russia Exaggerating?
Obama gave an entire speech and said Isis was contained hours before they Rampaged through France , so who is exaggerating?
What I see:
Obama is arming terrorists, Russia is fighting terrorists, NATO is shooting down Russian jets, while Obama-Rebels are murdering pilots and Downing Rescue Helicopters with Obama-RPGs, while Obama-Muslims-"refugees" are flooding Europe and now America, but its all OK because "Islam is the religion of peace" and Obama is Islamic and is intolerant and racist against Christians (no conflict of interest there)
Seems pretty simple and strait forward to me.
PS: There has never been a more Anti-Christian president in U.S. history IMO. Christians are getting raped and murdered all over the middle east, and Obama is arming terrorists and bringing in muslim "refugees" , what about those pesky Christians? somehow none of those Christians seem to be making it across that border into Europe.... hmm a bit convenient.
Did I miss something?
Because this all just looks like a war against Christianity and the rise of some kind of Obama funded Neo-Ottoman empire to me.
You are correct except that I would mostly replace your use of Obama with US Deep State.
From Clinton to Bush to Obama we Orthodox Christians have seen the West aid and abet the jihadi head choppers and liver eaters that are raping and killing us.
The only country that has consistently tried to help us is Russia. The Syrian army of mostly young Muslim men is fighting and dying to liberate and protect Christian villages.
The America that in 1915 told the Turks that its 97 million Christians wanted the Armenian Genocide to stop is no more. America is post-Christian and has since the collapse of the USSR been supporting jihadis and fascists (and even outright Nazis in Ukraine).
The American Republic is no more. America is now Empire with all the evil that it implies.
allies did it! nato did it! sloppy russian flying did it! we din do nuffun.
And the killing of tens of thousands woman and children in Iraq 'was' caring?
I think with John McCain in Congress -- any heinous acts of war can be ruled out!
http://www.memecreator.org/static/images/memes/3768393.jpg
Double.
For the Putin lovers. 1 jet down today. 2 dead pilots. 1 helicopter shot down.
Sloppy military work from a drunk nation.
Remember,,, It ain't over til the fat lady sings...
And shooting down an unsuspecting unarmed bomber,,, 2 pilots still parachuting down completely defenseless,,, and a abandoned helicopter isn't exactly superb military work.
Sort of like Putin said,,, a bunch of backstabbing cowards.
jmo
Russia has been probing us for over a year. Amazing that Turkey had the balls to do it.
You obviously mistake balls for stupidity. Turks are now siding with a bunch of baby killing mercs called ISIS. That''s balls?
Shooting down an unarmed bomber without fighter escort is balls?
Shooting the pilots still parachuting down is balls?
Shooting a disabled aircraft is balls?
Civilized nations NOT AT WAR "do not shoot down" other nations aircraft even if violating a mile or two of airspace.
Russia got what they deserved for MH17. Civilized nations NOT AT WAR "do not shoot down" civilian aircraft (MH17).
Putin got everything he deserved today.
Russia got what they deserved for MH17. Civilized nations NOT AT WAR "do not shoot down" civilian aircraft (MH17).
Putin got everything he deserved today.
Russia got what they deserved for MH17. Civilized nations NOT AT WAR "do not shoot down" civilian aircraft (MH17).
Putin got everything he deserved today.
So was Pearl Harbor. If Russian needed a pretense to escalate attacks against Turkey, now they have it.
Thank god the Pentagon never inflates its numbers or lies about its accomplishments. Do these fucking guys ever actually listen to themselves?
Pfffffffff...................
As I said before,,, the ameriKan nazi's are involved. You know they always have their AWAC's airborne,,, wouldn't be surprised if they directed the Turk Fighters.
The SU 24 is an attack bomber that is not designed to defend itself against fighters. It was returning to base from a mission, probably had no weapons left to fight even if it wanted to. This is akin to shooting an unarmed person in the back, exactly in line with how the USA acts with a power that may be able to defend itself.
Even if the SU24 violated Turks airspace they were not at war,,, so the warning should have sufficed. Also the Turk aircraft had to get permission from "way up" to shoot down the Russian.
No this was a outright provocation and a declaration of war by Turkey, a proxy of the USA. I just hope President Putin thinks this out before any rash acts the USA and it's western puppets are hoping for.
I do not wish to die because of those traitorous morons in DC, the pentagram and Langley's actions.
Turkey punched the bully in the face. He'll run away now.
Has Fox News gotten THAT bad?
4th Reich setting the table for dinner as we speak
Watch for Russia to position BUK's & S-300's in Latakia and to closely align with the Kurds and provide them with some sophisticated manpads. Wouldn't want to be a Turkish pilot right about now. Putin will not allow the Turks the opportunity to do this again.
Well looky looky, the 3rd Reich is still fighting the Russians. Oh, my bad, it's the 4th Reich that's fighting the Russians now.
The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them, except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian have no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.
George S. PattonSame as dollar. It's our war, your problem.
ISIS and Al-Qaeda are part of USSA forces... just one of their several proxy terrorist wings.
Also, anyone able to add one plus one can add the following:
#1: Every predators in NATO will come to the support of every other predator in NATO regardless of why that NATO member needs support.
#2: Thus every NATO predator is free to break any and all international laws, any and all agreements, and do absolutely anything at all, no matter how egregious... yet be assured their fellow NATO predators will come back up their every illegal, immoral predatory action.
1 + 1 == predators-gone-wild.
1 + 1 == nuclear war.