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NATO Backs Turkey's Version Of Events, Calls For "Calm & De-Escalation"
Following the meeting of the North Atlantic Council requested by Turkey - to explain its actions - NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg will give a statement to the press, no doubt urging, just as Obama and Hollande just did, no escalation between the two nations.
- *U.S., NATO OFFICIALS SAY RUSSIAN JET WAS IN TURKISH AIRSPACE:AP
- *HOLLANDE: MUST PREVENT ANY ESCALATION BETWEEN RUSSIA, TURKEY
- *OBAMA: RUSSIANS, TURKS MUST TALK TO EACH OTHER, NOT ESCALATE
And we were not wrong...
- *STOLTENBERG SAYS 'THIS IS A SERIOUS SITUATION'
- *STOLTENBERG SAYS NATO BACKS TURKEY'S VERSION OF TODAY'S EVENTS
Here is The Turkish map of the flight paths...
So we must de-escalate!!
- *STOLTENBERG CALLS FOR 'CALM AND DE-ESCALATION'
- *STOLTENBERG SAYS ALL MUST CONTRIBUTE TO DE-ESCALATION
- *STOLTENBERG SAYS ISIL SHOULD BE COMMON ENEMY OF RUSSIA, WEST
And here is the full statement:
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*U.S., NATO OFFICIALS SAY RUSSIAN JET WAS IN TURKISH AIRSPACE:AP
Did we expect NATO to admit that the Russian plane was in Syrian airspace?
More lies and more attacks on Russia and Putin are forthcoming as the war in Syria expands
Turkish planes routinely cross the Syrian border in that exact area.
I’m willing to bet a 5-gallon bucket of popcorn that one of them will be shot down over Syria soon.
Revenge is a dish best served… with chilled vodka and Tchaikovsky’s music. ;-)
Looney
Good thing that the US would never overfly anybody else's territory. Anyone here old enough to remember Gary Powers? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Gary_Powers
Yes, old enough!!
FUCK THEM UP VLAD!!!
Seriously? I thought NATO would back Bill Maher's version of events
If Turkey were actually fighting against ISIS, it wouldn't have shot down an ally in that fight. Moreover, if NATO were actually fighting against ISIS, it wouldn't have rolled over so easily and defended Turkey.
This incident lays bare the truth of the matter — that NATO is far more interested in eliminating Assad and weakening Russia than it is in fighting ISIS.
I get tired of saying this, but I'm so fucking embarrassed to be an American.
CNN can maybe dust off the old Ted Turner End of the World Apocalypse video......
I for one think it's really smart of Turkey, the financial backer of ISIS, to aggressively piss off the world's super power who just took our most of ISIS in less than a week
So who you gonna believe? The filth funding Al-Qaeda and ISIS or the Russians who are fighting them?
Time to stop all gas and oil shipments to Turkey, divert to China permanently.
I wonder if Russia will take U.S. Refugees when SHTF.
The measured distance of the Su-24's alleged incursion into Turkish airspace is 2.39 miles from entrance to exit.
http://www.freemaptools.com/measure-distance.htm
At a crusing speed of 300mph, the Su-24 would only be in Turkish territory for about 28 seconds.
There is no way the Turkish F-16 could have fired, and struck, the Su-24 while it was still in Turkish territory. Either the pilot fired before the Su-24 entered Turkish airspace, or else the F-16 struck the Russian plane after it had left Turkey.
Something clearly does not add up.
look at the Turkish jet trajectory - it was not headed to intercept in Turkish airspace. Show where it was when it fired, where the Russian jet was. I'll bet it was well East of where the track stops.
Turkey just put herself on a straight path towards a world of hurt:
http://goo.gl/VhZdyZ
So Turkey thinks it is reasoable to shoot down a plane that flies across a piece of Turkey (that sticks out into Syria) for a few seconds clearly headed back into Syria !!
I'm boycotting anything Turkish.
"look at the Turkish jet trajectory " plus that of the ejected pilot. Too much math and physics for NATO.
Gog and Magog, bitchez!
That is exactly what I was thinking earlier.
I am no expert, but even I can tell that the Turkish jet couldn't have simply stopped right at the border and made a 180-degree turn. That map is clearly a fake.
Turkey just buys the oil and transfers the money.
The money is then laundered just like all banks who launder CIA money who are the TRUE backers of isis.
"Plausible deniability." Worked for Reagan and Johnston and Nixon.
I don't know how -- or where -- or when. The Russians will have their revenge, and they will make it Biblical.
The world keeps getting nuts'er and nuts'er.
As someone else mentioned, a large "drop shipment" of heavy weapons to the PKK is called for.
.
Maybe it is time to implement to Jewish joke about Turkey.
It is known as the 'kill a Turk and rest' joke.
'We ejected some folks'.
If Russia does not stop the flow of oil and natural gas to Turkey then this is all just noise.
Let them eat ISIS oil.
'We ejectulated some folks'.
Assuming the plane was going 600 mph, there is about two miles that was covered in about 12 seconds tops. Plenty of time for 10 warnings...
My thoughts exactly
Putin is POS and a coward!
Like I said many times, he is another Saddam who was talking big but did not die like a real soldier. Turkey, at the US request, tested Putin and he ran away.
Stalin was right: if an enemy is not surrender, he must be destroyed!
Yeah, lets shoot down a Russian jet for shits and giggles, after in passed through Turk. airspace for 10 secs. The same Turkey that consistently flies into Greek airspace, as in constantly and has yet to be shot down. Now NATO has the nerve to talk of de-escalation? The only one escalating is that shit-stain Erdogan, who is currently backed by NATO.
Do you think Northern Cyprus could get liberated?
Russia will demand Turkey hand over all the Turkmen who shot at the pilots. You know, the ones that Turkey was protecting in the first place..... and we have the Afghanistan invasion scenario.
Russia always wanted Constantinople. It's also of HUGE strategic importance right now. NATO will fight behind the Turks because we are trying to prepare the entire area for a MASSIVE Israeli expansion.
@schatzi +1! I was going to say the same re Greek airspace...
Same with Israel violating airspace too.
Erdogan's son sells ISIS oil through maritime companies. Russia has been doing a number on that flow recently... Russian airplane gets shot down. The turks are a big part of the problem, but everyone knows that. Look throughout history, they were on the wrong side of both WW's, genocide... just a barbaric people as a whole. Never trust the Turks.
a simplistic generalization.
the problem is not "the turks", nor the russians, nor israelis, nor americans.
most turks are fine people, content to live their own lives in peace.
it is the leaders of nations that agitate for war, which is not in the interests of the people.
Actually, when it comes to ISIS, Turkey is "part of the problem". Don't take my word for it, watch General Dempsey's hearing in 2014. http://hotair.com/archives/2014/09/16/dempsey-continues-to-frustrate-oba...
Who do you think he's talking about? The Zoroastrians? Read a little history while you are at it my friend...
I understand American education is a little... lacking, especially these days. But Turkey was never involved in WW2. Hitler tried to recruit them into fighting the Soviets but they declined and minded their own business. Just thought I'd clarify that.
And if we wanna talk about genocide then maybe we should sit down and talk about the Native Americans (which was justified with the GOD excuse, Manifest Destiny), General Sherman's rampage through the South, the flattening of Germany, the firebombing of Dresden and all of Japan, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, selling Eastern Europe to the Soviet butchers (which America funded and supported with military weapons), and the complete clusterfuck of American foreign policy from 1946 to today.
Really, I don't understand the obsession with blaming foreign countries while acting innocent yourself. Not even ISIS has done some of the sick shit America has, like starving 500,000 Iraqi children after the first Gulf War or spraying Agent Orange all over Vietnam (of which the Vietnamese are still suffering from today) And it's well documented now that America is involved in ISIS' creation and funding. It's not just Turkey, or Saudi Arabia, or whoever else.
Human history is written in the blood of others, no one is innocent. Welcome to Planet Earth.
Yeah, you might want to read up on your WWII... Turkey was supporting whatever side was winning at the time actually. They joined the Allies in 1945 when Hitler was about to lose. From 41-43... not so much. Here's a nice article to read... just to clarify;
http://www.ucc.ie/chronicon/3/hakkfra.html
How does talking about Native Americans and US genocide and agent orange, take away from the fact that Turkey is a supporter of ISIS, funds them, arms them, and let's ISIS fighters cross Turkish borders to kill, rape, and terrorize Syria and Iraq? Which then has helped cause oa massive migration of refugees into Europe, which is destabilizing that whole continent.
What gives you the impression that I'm defending the US position, when I have given no such indication? (hint: I don't... America is the worst offender of ME destabilization and death)
As the saying goes, Assuming makes an ass out of u and me. But in this case, it's just you.
me too!
Unfortunately.
Counterpunch ran this story in 2009
http://www.counterpunch.org/2009/11/27/mayday-1960/
The U2 had been flying the 4000 mile secret route Peshawar, Pakistan to Bodö, Norway for over four years, flying at an altitude of 70,000 feet, two high for Soviet interceptors to reach. 50,000 feet was the MIG’s maximum ceiling. A flameout at the 70,000 foot cruising altitude would require that the U2 to go down to 30,000 to restart the engines, within the range of the Soviet aircraft. The crash occurred only two weeks before a high level Paris summit between Eisenhower and Khruschev.
Some years later Senator Fulbright had this to say about the incident:
“I have often wondered why, in the midst of these efforts by President Eisenhower and Khruschev to come to some understanding, the U2 incident was allowed to take place. No one will ever know whether it was accidental or intentional.”
Russia baited them.
i will take your word for it.
you would know, you're a master baiter.
This is what Putin gets for being so timid and frankly - nothing but a checkers player.
Turkey, France, Israel, the US and others fly into Syria all the time. But Putin is too afraid of NATO to declare a no fly zone. He made a strong move on the ISIS clowns but was too fearful to take control of the area and sky's. Did he really think his fear would not be exploited.
To this day Putin/Russia has not honored the 2007 CONTRACT to supply the S300 systems to Syria and Iran. Why? Fear that they would be used by those countries to defend themselves. Then Putin threatened to honor the contract with Iran (not with poor Syria though) in the later part of 2014. But he never did. This last week Putin again threatened to honor the contract with Iran - BUT he says MAYBE is several more months. Always tomorrow and then he never follows through. FEAR OF NATO.
They took down a Russia airliner. A few covert attacks within Russia. They know Russia/Putin impotent and will not act against the west.
The EUke's TWICE has the WUke army trapped and were ready to destroy them. Each time Putin forced the EUke's to cease fire and allow the WUke's to safely walk away. Why? Fear NATO would take action and save their proxy WUke's. Just the other week Putin conceeded on his requirements that WUke make the 3 billion dollar payment. He gave them new terms of 1 billion for the next 3 yrs. WHY? Fear and weakness. How did WUke react. By cutting power to EUke.
Even Turkey has noticed Putin's fear and how he has gotten Russia into an awkward half in half out situation. His lack of resolve and fortitude has prompted even Turkey to no longer fear Russia. Putin is being bitch slapped, hard. Either he goes gets used to it or he grows a pair when it comes to NATO.
You don't understand the Russians. There is no fear of NATO. Putin is a rational actor trying to avoid escalation. If NATO wants it at some point the Russians will oblige.
I do understand
That dog won't hunt. (Not NATO at least)
They need to hire a better liar.
Purpose of press conference to demonstrate obedience invertebrate NATO members to US.
Spineless mission accomplished.
Someone is barking mad. Look at the Turkish flight path. Stops exactly on the border. Well done.
And where is the downing point exactly?
Stoltenberg is an idiot of the same type as Fogh Rasmussen. Oversized ego trapped in a small mans body.
What a bunch of idiots we have leading the world, I have just about had enough of these lunatics.
"Someone is barking mad".
Mad enough to fool the proles eh old man?
Well. I guess it's Russias turn to celebrate thanks giving.
I guess the menu will be roasted Turkey.
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...
" I know nothing "
Meanwhile...keep things calm so we can "back door" in more Tow missiles to the rebels... (Sarc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSvELP-bPVc robot chicken
Thank God for a cool and level headed Vladimir Putin. He will not take the bait from Erdogan and NATO. I hope russian people will start to boycott Turkey by not going there in large numbers for holidays anymore.
The stupid european taxpayers will pay billions to Erdogan for being kind enough not to send too many "refugees" to Europe.
For the time being, the US is "winning" - reminds me of Charlie Sheen.
God help all the Europeans with holiday apartments in Turkey now. European tourism just got another nail in the coffin. Short the big hotel chains?
Soon, the Muslim extremists will be arresting moderates and foreigners in Turkey as well as confiscating their property. I've seen it happen in other countries and when a nation turns batshit extremist like Turkey is now, bad things happen.
The real joke is " So what that a Russian Jet skirted your border"
Don't tell me you didn't know it was a Russian plane. It's not like it was circling Istanbul.
They are of no threat to you , you asshole Turks , they're there to dispose of ISIS!
Putin should shoot any Turkish jet out of the sky that even comes close to Russia's border, or strays into Syrian airspace.
yes "winning" until you get AIDS and a video of you sucking cock, and you have to pay millions to all the nasty whores you fucked....then - lost?
Emasculation
Now, Pollyanna's brother, a cop with a grudge against her, who she raised and put through school, has stepped in to take Grace, like she's a football, the fool. If they are breeding communism right out of the birth canal, and they have been for decades, debating the Fed, Congress or any other symptomatic group of morons is a waste of time. In case you have been living in a bubble, the rich and the Mexicans are moving out of America, leaving the middle class, which participated, holding the actuarial bag.
Syria is just misdirection, and if you think this all isn't going to roll over into America, you are a fool. Playing games with pawns is a waste of time; better to arm them, to kill each other. The end game is always food, and before long most will not be able to plant a seed not certified to bankrupt them, by Monsanto.
The good news is that this is still a big country, there are still places where you can build a community safely, and natural resources per capita are growing, because the critters have triggered their own demographic collapse. Without children, there is no basis for finance, which is why you are seeing fascism spread. Vote all you like, expecting a different result.
The stock market is like the candy spread throughout the grocery store. Kiss those pensions good bye. Common sense tells you that parents raising their children to be independent, always the minority, are not going to tolerate equal rights affirmative action, and without them, there is no economy. Funny, the Silent Generation revered free speech and the loudmouth generation wants to make it illegal.
If you look at the psychology literature, you will see that 95% of the population is consumed by the past, waiting for something to happen, arguing their books, which, when the redundancy is netted out, is always inflation driven by reactionary communists. Chinese government has torched everything it has touched for thousands of years, and the morons bet everything on China. And Nero fiddles, while the new world order burns.
Whether all that is a threat or an opportunity depends upon your perspective.
Money is not a store of value, which the empire proves repeatedly; it's gravity. Money travels to money; it's a test of character. Quite simply, if you are surrounded by people collecting checks for doing nothing productive, do you go to work, collect a check, or look for others who want to work?
Emasculation, replacing men with machines, is what Silicon Valley is all about. The Presidential Medal of Freedom, NOW that's an oxymoron, “high quality healthcare in San Francisco” to be rolled over you next. Careful what you wish for.
Yes, until you see the new weapons roll off the shelf, it's still just a game among pawns.
Turkey and US support ISIS. Then Turkey shoots down a Russian war plane after ISIS blows up passenger plane.
What is NATO going to say?
Erdogan is already on thin ice domestically, I think he needs to worry more about Turkish military escalating on him.
or russian mafia nail guns
"We don't want escalation, we just want to shoot down your planes."
- NATO
Idiot American Child - "OMG mom are they doing this because this week is our turkey day? Is that why the turkey people attacked?"
Idiot American Mom - "It's okay. The US is going to keep us safe on sacred holy day Thanksgiving and Black Friday."
But everyone's messing with Turkey so close to Thanksgiving!
Pussy
-Dominic Toretto
I will never spend another fucking Euro, Pound or Dollar in Turkey again.
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg is a bald faced liar and a sack of shit. GFY
"Turkey intends to thwart Russian military operations in Syria because of ISIS oil operations
Cheap oil that ISIL terrorists are trafficking to Turkey may be the true reason for the attack on the Russian su-24 bomber on the morning of 24 November, reports LifeNews. According to the publication, the son of Turkish President, Bilal Erdogan, is associated with terrorists and ISIS' control of oil flow in the country. It is a fact that Russian aircraft launched massive strikes on the oil fields of the terrorists, causing Turkish authorities to use its last straw." From Russian pressMate it's so blindingly obvious the fact no western journalist can figure it out proves beyond all doubt they are CIA assets.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/10/leading-german-journalist-admits-...
+1 great link!
Lying puppet Stoltembeg . His masters told him to protect Turkey . Now the NATO criminal organization is in the game of protecting the Turkish puppet . NATO has no credibilty at all . It is just an instrument of the Zionist empire . We will see if Putin wi have his revenge now or later .
Here is The Turkish map of the flight paths...
"Sketchy" at least.
Etch-A-Sketchy
And in which country did the plane crash / pilots come down?
Turkey threatened Putin with serious consequences if Russia doesn’t stop bombing ISIS days before shutting down the Russian stealth fighter.
Turkey has run air campaigns in northern Iraq bombing the Kurds militants who were fighting against ISIS.
Turkey is facilitating selling ISIS stolen oil from Iraq and Syria oilfields to G20 membership countries on the black market at a dumping price. Has been estimated that as much as $800mil of oil has been sold in Turkey by ISIS using Turkey / Syrian border in direct dealings between Turkish officials and ISIS members under the blind eye of UK and USA.
Turkey is a corrupt, jihadist sh*t hole that hosts, protects, finances and offer intelligence and logistics to ISIS under cover of NATO membership and alliance with USA.
Turkey is considered a USA ally. ISIS is considered a terrorist faction in war with America.
Turkey is s state sponsor of ISIS with a NATO membership. NATO is harboring a state sponsor of ISIS. That makes NATO and all nations within NATO membership accomplices of sponsoring terrorism.
Shooting down the Russian jet - coming back to base after a combat mission against ISIS - under the pretext of airspace violation it’s a direct provocation of war against Russia. US sponsored, trained and equipped so called “moderate rebels” were seen shooting on the Russians jet pilots as they descended on the ground while chanting Alahu akbar.
As long as NATO and its allies are offering support to ISIS, this terrorist faction will continue to recover.
Who is fighting against who is Syria?
ISIS is unveiling more and more as a mercenary army on the payroll of western countries hell bent to twist the arm of nations opposing them trying to put them in submission before new world order fascists globalists and western fake free democracies.
putin will be calm (cool, collected) as he de-ecimates what remains of CIASIS
So we have full NATO support for backing ISIS. Good to know you support what is happening in France and Begium and back it with your full military support against yourselves asshole.
If Europeans won't vacation in Turkey anymore, then Turkey will make money by exporting refugees, i.e. they get paid for keeping them.
Turkey is the street Hookers of the ME: they will do anything for money. With anyone, be it with Germany, NATO, Russia, Iran...
Anything other than the Kurds is "just business" to the Turks. I expect things to get resolved accordingly.
Abdul Abulbul Amir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv6M2omQ__U
No investigation needed, just carte blanche approval of a murder?
NATO claims that pro-Russian Ukrainian rebels shot the jet down with black powder muskets.
"In the rain".
-NATO spokes clone
North Atlantic Terrorist Organization
Zing. Tip your team of writers for that one.
"NATO Backs Turkey's Version Of Events, Calls For "Calm & De-Escalation"
are they serious? they back turkey, means they say openly russia is lying and call this an attempt of de-escalation?
This sums up the current Russian thoughts pretty well.
Turkey is performing NATO's task - establishing a No-Fly zone in Northern SyriaThe No-Fly zone is to protect ISIS supply lines in the north and north-east, including into Iraq as well.
In response to the Turkish aggression, Putin today has openly declared that the Turkish state itself is supporting ISIS terrorism. This follows a major report released last week showing the individuals and private-co-public institutions from certain states (Qatar, Turkey, KSA, etc.) supporting ISIS. Today's statement from the Kremlin is aimed at disambiguation.
Were Turkey's actions against Russia a provocation, or a response?
Analysis indicates a bit of both, but tending towards response. "
I think it's more of a provocation, Putin can't respond directly without stirring up the NATO hornet's nest. The full-court press is on, starting with the airline bombing and continuing with Paris attacks and I'm sure many more to come. The USSA strategy is to create enough international fear and outrage that the world will be begging for Big Daddy USSA and minions to step in to restore peace and democracy or else they might resettle a "terrorist" in next door. If Russia tries to set up a no-fly zone they can be portrayed as uncooperative in the pursuit of justice. ISIS are still useful idiots, USSA, Israel, and France can continue pretending to bomb them while instead "accidentally" bombing Iranian ground forces and useful infrastructure to slow Iran's progress.
USSA is poking Putin from all angles to see what gives...
Okay so it was premeditated then. They probably chose a target area near that thumb so that their story of airspace violation would be plausible. Then they just waited for a jet to enter that chosen space or get as close as possible and had the bastards on the ground waiting for the pilots or quick response team jumped over the Turkish border. They got lucky a Russian jet didn't make it there in time to lite up their own men and the terrorists.
Happy Thanksgiving from the Zionists.
So, did we ever find out what that emergency Fed meeting was about on Monday?
You are seeing it.
Government is messing up things.
Its the only thing they do well.
Revenge for this as well plays a part. Syria used a mobile Russian light AA system to shoot down a Turkish F-4,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQQQBjNhb9s
NATO Lies. Nuff said...
They back one of their own members? Against Russia? Big shocker.
Newsflash: NATO, government, police, etc investigate themselves and find nothing wrong.
Governments and their tenured professionals are never wrong.
Even when it is proven they have done wrong, they still have done no wrong. 'Doing wrong' is what "little people" do.
"Qualified immunity" its called.
Protects them from the "little people" their derive their power from.
Silly plebs. I mock them and their jailers.
Time for Mr. Putin to stop playing the 'Nice Guy.'
"Remain calm!
All is well"?
-- Chip Diller, Alpha frat house
Kevin Bacon, y'all.
Americans and French and others who buy gasoline are funding ISIS. Guess we had better sanction consumers. /sarc
Ha ha ha - this Russian aircraft overflew Turkey Not once, but twice. They had woarned him away many times when he was close to the border, and still the moron comes over.
Oh well, give him a Darwin award.
Hillary.
this is so ridiculous by nato and turkey look at the map, even if the plane would cross border on this tiny territory, what would be the threat to turkey?
the erdogay side just waited for an occasion to escalate the syrian conflict
You haven't died from an overdose washingtonova cocks, ukropidorov?
Ya’ll ready for this?
Duck And Cover (1951) Bert The Turtle Civil Defense Film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqXu-5jw60
It has since been updated.
http://youtu.be/v6prK716ssM
The math of Turkish pilots warning off the Russans for 10 minutes means they were warning them in Syrian airspace for 9.5+ min... Then they shot a plane down in Syria, and that's the version of the truth that wins out here. I just want to type it out, see how crazy it looks.
It's worse, at SU24 speeds it was 4 seconds at full speed 8 seconds at half speed. And that's according to the Turkish description of events.
Good grief.
U.S.foreign policy looks like a retard's effing psychedelic acid trip.
Bring back Madelaine Albright.
No. Wait. What the hell am I saying?
Lying turks, the gap on the map if I am looking at it is only 5Km across max and 10 warnings?
Warnings could have been issued well before they crossed the line. The Turks have been complaining of Russian incurrsion since the Ruskies started bombing.
What's disturbing is the Turk's willingness to shoot down an aircraft that was clearly taking a shortcut and not attempting to penetrate further into Turkey. They were just fine shooting down a Russian aircraft to enforce a technicality. The simultaneous and convenient presence of FSA turkmen makes this look like an event they prepared for.
Show where the Turkish jet was when it shot the Russian, where the Russian was - the map is leaving out what I'm assuming is worse for the Turkish position here.
Another glance at the map and I'd be willing to bet that little spur of Turkish land is the cause for all the previous complaints of Russian violations as well. They finally got pissed that the Russians were taking a shortcut through a corner of their backyard. Pretty fucking bellicose to be honest.
5km at 1300km/hour (Su24 cruising speed) is 4 seconds.
Sibel Edmonds Examines Turkey, Syria and the Kurdish Question
Syria is once again the centre of attention with Washington and Ankara agreeing on “ISIS-free zones” that each partner is interpreting in its own way. Joining us to explore those interpretations is Sibel Edmonds of BoilingFrogsPost.com, just back from the region with intel on a possible timeline for increased military action in the country. In this conversation James and Sibel discuss Turkey’s battle against the Kurds and how the Kurdish population are being used by the US and Israel as pawns in a complex chess game. We also examine the recent bombing in Suruc and signs that it was a false flag provocation.
http://theinternationalreporter.org/2015/08/14/sibel-edmonds-examines-tu...
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Dennis Hastert Case, Clinton Scandals, FBI & the 1996 COINTELPRO Directive
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2015/09/20/dennis-hastert-case-clinton-s...
time for russia & china to drop the monetary nuke and double/triple gold price in shanghai, then sit back and watch the western implosion
Let’s say what you describe occurs.
Poof – Social Security will be gone.
What’s the day after plan for all the broke iBoomers?
Seriously, Woodchoppers?
Will be gone?
Fargo Woodchipper Scene (gross)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qWFhDvURLgA little bit more than SS will be gone.
Probably you, I, and most everyone else will be gone.
So, your point is?
Will Putin really care what Stoltenberg says.
He has already drawn his conclusion.
Everything Russia says must be true, and everything NATO says must be a lie, because Putin is always right. Maybe you should to think for yourself?
Putin even admitted Su-24s crept into Turkish airspace last month due to "navigational error" with Su-30s and Su-24s--of course, when you see that the Su-24s have what look like cheapo Garmins literally rubberbandedd to the cockpit, you can see why that'd happen:
https://twitter.com/Missilito/status/596564001523380224/photo/1
But keep drinking that Kremlin koolade.
You have clear logical cretinism and impaired.
Contact your handlers for a new guideline book on trolling, the one you have is outdated.
Because I bring pesky facts into the discussion? Please.
Anyone notice the Turkish jet path stops just short of Syria
Well sure, the Turks are flying the VTOL version of the F16, and they stopped and hovered, before shooting back at a plane that was obviously behind them, in Turkish airspace.
Freedom Eagles - Turkeys - in two days??
Boycott dates and figs….
The confusion!!!
Iranian dates are delicious.
Saudi Arabia isn't a member of NATO. Russia should lay waste to Saudi oil fields and then cut the oil supply to Europe and Turkey right before winter kicks in.
NATO is supporting Turkey, ISIS and other Anti-Syrian rebels. This is a total Joke.
NATO was created for that
How best to retaliate, just so many ways. Putin is way too smart to let this opportunity go to waste.
nevermind all this crap - i just want latinlover to post so i can have another look at his profile pic - if there's a full version of that, I need for 'research purposes'
Even if the Russian plane did stray into Turkish airspace which is yet to be proven, it certainly does not justify shooting down the plane.
This is clearly a provocation by Turkey for Russia's bombing of its oil tankers and its proxy rebels in Syria. The fact that NATO has not condemned this act, demonstrates that as an organisation it is no longer credible. It is clearly a merely a tool
of US foreign policy. The sooner NATO is disbanded, the safer the world will be.
For a couple of hundred bucks pilots can purchase devices that record altitude, GPS locale and other data.
There is NO WAY that the location of the planes at the time of incident are not clearly known and provable.
Some one is clearly lie'in...bad!
If Putin produces the plane data it will be ignored by US media. If the US has the info it would have already been brought to the public's attention.
My guess is that the plane was not over Turkey. I would be delighted if the US and NATO can prove it was. That way we would not look like disingenuous sacks-o-shite.
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 – shrugging shoulders.
The Russian Airbus A321, real-time infrared of the explosion.
Hmm…..
Turkey is a corrupt, jihadist sh*t hole that hosts, protects, finances and offer intelligence and logistics to ISIS under cover of NATO membership and alliance with USA.
Turkey is s state sponsor of ISIS with a NATO membership.
Ban turkey from FIFA, IAAF and all sports around the globe..
unfortunately i work with a few turks,
they started immediately to dream of a greater turkey from paris to peking
Criminal putin regime told officialy that FSA is not a terrorist group and so criminal putin regime is not bombing FSA.
Russia says U.S.-backed Free Syrian Army not a terrorist group
But FSA, NATO, Turkey, etc. kept reporting that criminal putin regime is bombing them - so it means putin regime lied... again.
Syrian rebels to Russia: Stop bombing us
So putin continued to lie and play a fool in world stage ... until when again criminal putin regime went on mission to bomb FSA on border with Turkey - where ISIS is not located - they again violated Turkey/NATO airspace, got warning from them - but ignored it. Thought he is a tough guy - but Turkey fast pointed out where is putin place in world and bitch slapped him by downing ou mighty russian Su-24 war plane. So if criminal putin regime where on mission on bombing ISIS - this would not happen. But Criminal putin regime was in mission to bomb FSA and to show of against NATO by violating it's airspace - in result - putin got kicked in nutts. He deserved that for supporting ISIS. Yes - putin is supporting ISIS because FSA is fighting against ISIS but criminal putin regime is fighting and bombing FSA. So this means - putin supports ISIS. Because ISIS and criminal putin regime and Assad attacks FSA.
Few hours later - FSA bitch slaps putin again and downs it's helicopter using TOW. In one day criminal putin regime mirage about ou mighty macho and military force - was destroyed in ashes.
That is reality - now putin trolls can only scream with anger and downvote any who has put his and putins face in mud.
Hope to see Turkey blocking Turkish straits for russkies ship. Bend over putin... bend over :D
ha ha ha :D Great day!
Three links in a row, the supervisors sent out a new directive?
Yes there is a position of State Department: "retards fuck".
You have been watching too much MSNBC.
Did you forget to take your medicine?
you are a paid liar working for the CIA-move on folks-another PAID CIA/MOSSAD troll....nothing to see here...
Turkey backs ISIS, NATO backs Turkey = NATO backs ISIS