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Russia Deploys Warship Off Syrian Coast To "Destroy Any Threats To Russian Planes"

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Despite demands from France's Hollande, America's Obama, and NATO's Stoltenberg that this situation not esclate, it appears Putin is not taking the shooting down of a fighter jet lying down. The seemingly cagey confirmation by NATO and Obama of Turkey's claims that Russia invaded its airspace has been rebuked by Russia which claims the Hmeimim airbase radar shows the attacking Turkish plane violating Syrian airspace. In response, Russia is moving a Cruiser 'Moskva' off the coast to strengthen air-defenses - just as French and US carriers are on their way.

Here is The Turkish version mapping of the flight paths.

 

Russia claims otherwise:

  • HMEIMIM AIRBASE'S RADAR SYSTEM RECORDS VIOLATION OF SYRIAN AIRSPACE BY ATTACKING TURKISH WARPLANE - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY

And is escalating:

  • RUSSIAN 'MOSKVA" CRUISER TO GO TO AREA IN COASTAL LATAKIA TO STRENGTHEN AIR DEFENSE IN SYRIA - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY

The Missile cruiser in question:

The reason for the deployment:

  • RUSSIAN ARMED FORCES GENERAL STAFF: NONE OF OUR PARTNERS, COUNTRIES FIGHTING ISIL HAVE EVER TOLD US THAT SO-CALLED MODERATE OPPOSITION UNITS WERE IN AREA WHERE SU-24 DOWNED
  • NO ATTEMPTS REGISTERED ON PART OF TURKISH PLANE TO GET IN TOUCH OR ESTABLISH VISUAL CONTACT WITH OUR CREW VIA OBJECTVE CONTROL DEVICES - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINSTRY
  • WARSHIP TO DESTROY ANY THREATS SEEN TO RUSSIAN PLANES: IFX

Specifically, as RT reports, the steps announced by Russian top brass as the following:Three steps as announced by top brass:

  1. Each and every strike groups’ operation is to be carried out under the guise of fighter jets
  2. Air defense to be boosted with the deployment of Moskva guided missile cruiser off Latakia coast with an aim to destroy any target that may pose danger
  3. Military contacts with Turkey to be suspended

Just like the downing of flight MH17 over Ukraine, it has quickly become a case of "he said, she said":

Rudskoy said the Russian warplane did not violate Turkish airspace. Additionally, according to the Hmeymim airfield radar, it was the Turkish fighter jet that actually entered Syrian airspace as it attacked the Russian bomber. The Turkish fighter jet made no attempts to contact Russian pilots before attacking the bomber, Rudskoy added.

“We assume the strike was carried out with a close range missile with an infra-red seeker,” Rudskoy said. “The Turkish jet made no attempts to communicate or establish visual contact with our crew that our equipment would have registered. The Su-24 was hit by a missile over Syria’s territory."

Sergey Rudskoy, a top official with the Russian General Staff, condemned the attack on the Russian bomber in Syrian airspace by a Turkish fighter jet as “a severe violation of international law”. He stressed that the Su-24 was downed over the Syrian territory. The crash site was four kilometers away from the Turkish border, he said.

As a result, Russia now plans to implement new measures aimed at strengthening the security of the country’s air base in Syria and in particular to bolster air defense. Russian guided missile cruiser Moskva, equipped with the ‘Fort’ air defense system, similar to the S-300, will be deployed off Latakia province's coast.

"We warn that every target posing a potential threat will be destroyed,” lieutenant general Sergey Rudskoy said during the briefing.

“All military contacts with Turkey will be suspended,” he added.

Furthermore, as the Russian Ministry of Defense explained, going forward, any Turkish plane that enters Syrian airspace will be fair game.

And again, all this is happening as both the French carrier de Gaulle and the US carrier CVN-75 USS Harry S. Truman are on their way to a very dangerous rendezvous off the Syrian coast.

So just as we warned in September, the situation has become a complete rerun of the 2013 Syria "Mediterranean" showdown, with full naval engagement by all parties, except this time the tensions are significantly escalated, a Russian fighter jet has just been taken down, US and French aircraft carriers are arriving in weeks, and Putin will not hestitate to go as far as he has to in order to save face.

 

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Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:36 | 6833497 AlaricBalth
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The measured distance of the Su-24's alleged incursion into Turkish airspace is 2.39 miles from entrance to exit.  

http://www.freemaptools.com/measure-distance.htm

At a crusing speed of 300mph, the Su-24 would only be in Turkish territory for about 28 seconds. 

There is no way the Turkish F-16 could have fired, and struck, the Su-24 while it was still in Turkish territory.  Either the pilot fired before the Su-24 entered Turkish airspace, or else the F-16 struck the Russian plane after it had left Turkey.

Something clearly does not add up.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:40 | 6833535 I Write Code
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Anti-aircraft missiles have 20-30 mile range and can travel over 2000mph.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:41 | 6833544 Haus-Targaryen
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This is turning into a complete shitshow.  I can imagine the Russians have much more planned than just suspending militiary cooperation. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:46 | 6833561 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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If Europe had any balls, they would help Russia blockade turkey to keep the filthy hordes from crossing.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:51 | 6833626 0b1knob
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A little historical background about this:

That area of Turkey was annexed from Syria in the 1930s.   Syria still claims it.   By repeatedly flying over it the Russian are helping Syria to assert its claims.   This could end with war between Turkey and Syria VERY easily.   With the Russians caught in the middle.

Does still seem like such a genius to all you Putinphiles now?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:54 | 6833650 Enceladus
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This kid just took a trip to heaven ;) He has an opinion

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H0MDGIXZ0o&feature=youtu.be

 

Cuaght in the middle or exactly to plan?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:02 | 6833715 ali_baba
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He knows what he's talking about ...but only cause he's seen his dad's military plans. Israel is setting up for taking over the entire Arabian peninsula. They're the ones who've set up this war. They will be the next superpower.

The muslims believe that they will be wiped out in this war. Mecca, medina destroyed.

It looks like it's happening.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:13 | 6833810 thesonandheir
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Hope so.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:28 | 6833899 Say What Again
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This is Bullish for the S&P, right?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:33 | 6833927 SWRichmond
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Russia is moving a Cruiser 'Moskva' off the coast to strengthen air-defenses - just as French and US carriers are on their way.

Jutland

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:38 | 6833964 Bumpo
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pew, pew, pew!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:46 | 6834027 RonArgent
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It appears from the chart that the Russian jet was in Turkish Air Space

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:54 | 6834078 Anonymous User
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Turkey just put herself on a straight path towards a world of hurt:

 

http://goo.gl/VhZdyZ 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:56 | 6834088 giovanni_f
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Bilal Erdogan, son of the Premier, who makes a fortune with bying oil from ISIS, fears for his business. Clearly something had to be done.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:11 | 6834160 TahoeBilly2012
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Putin could "regime change" Turkey with one cruise missile, I mean just come out and say "We feel Turkey is a threat to our allies in the area..." just like the US does...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:26 | 6834254 strannick
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America, fuck yeah

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:31 | 6834294 Never One Roach
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They can take out the Turkish Embassy by simply using the good 'ole Clinton excuse:

 

President Bill Clinton later apologized for the bombing, stating it was accidental.[1] Central Intelligence Agency director George Tenet testified before a congressional committee that the bombing was the only one in the campaign organized and directed by his agency,[2] and that the CIA had identified the wrong coordinates for a Yugoslav military target on the same street.[3] The Chinese government issued a statement on the day of the bombing stating that it was a "barbarian act".[4]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_bombing_of_the_Chinese_embas...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:22 | 6834646 Four chan
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to putin, act like a dick expect a punch in the nose once in a while...little man.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:31 | 6834702 Manthong
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Anybody want some slices of Turkey after a hat trick of Vodka???

..after all, this is the season.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:34 | 6834716 Surviver22
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Obama will not finish his second term! Secret exposed! WW3 started! Current Events Linked to Ancient Biblical Prophecy! http://motivationdose.com/is-america-babylon/
Wed, 11/25/2015 - 03:49 | 6836875 the kings whore
Wed, 11/25/2015 - 09:59 | 6837498 kralizec
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Just one fricken little ship?

Jeesh, I thought Vlad has more balls than that...

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 14:43 | 6839280 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Um hello, Turkey has violated Greek airspace 1,017 times so far this year already. Shooting this guy down for 28 seconds is nothing but pure provocation and escalation.

This is just the first air battle between US/NATO/GCC and Russia/Iran/(China)/Syria.

Gavrilo Princip, anyone?

WW III here we come. Thanks Obama. Thanks Hollande. Thanks Cameron. Thanks Bibi. And thanks Blankfein, Janet, and all you other billionaire f*ckers who print the money so the people can die.

Pentagon> $1.29B missiles last week to the lovely Saudis. Yes, the ones who inspired, funded and supplied the men for 9/11. Repeat: the ones who inspired, funded and supplied the men for 9/11. One more time: the ones who inspired, funded and supplied the men for 9/11.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:15 | 6834903 3Wishes
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No Putin will punch a Cruise missile up the arse of Turkey to watch the shit fly.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 20:08 | 6835308 Lore
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Re: "Putin will not hestitate to go as far as he has to in order to save face." <-- Huh?  I fail to see how Putin loses any face. Executing a downed pilot is a war crime. This just proves Putin's point, that the Syrian government needs help to remove these psychopath-backed psychopaths and restore stability and rule of law.  

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 21:27 | 6835643 Vincent.Vega
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> No Putin will punch a Cruise missile up the arse of Turkey to watch the shit fly.

No point of blaming Turkish or American goyim, that's exactly what ZOG wants. ZOG is trying to provoke WWIII and emotions are not our best friend here.

We all know that Russia (+China) is the last stronghold of the goyim humanity and if it falls, the Zion/Kingdom of Judah will rise and all the goyim nations will be finally exterminated, aside from the slaves and techno-servants to the Jewish Golden Billion.

 

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 21:47 | 6835753 Whoa Dammit
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Did NATO bring John Madden out of retirement to draw the alleged flight path of the Russian jet ? JFC the propaganda gets lamer by the day.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 21:49 | 6835762 theeseer
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Vince you are either off your medication or you should patent and sell it. Best LSD dream sequence since the 1960's. I suggest aluminum foil over your head immediately.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:53 | 6834803 bookofenoch
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Dirka, dirka!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:18 | 6834591 DogOfSinope
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I'm long "Republic of Free Kurdistan" and "Greater Armenia".

Turks will now experience how it feels when Kurds get TOWs and AA ManPads.

I'm also long Lockheed Martin. Some F-16s will be wrecked and replacements will be needed. Money made from stolen ISIS oil has to be spent with the right suppliers. Otherwise, what's the point of it all?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:25 | 6834665 Herd Redirectio...
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Interesting how the rebels control the Turkey/Syria and Israel/Syria border, don't you think?  Almost like, say, an invasion? 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:40 | 6835008 JR
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From the Mediterranean coast of Syria through modern Iraq… i.e., “Greater Israel ” – that’s the trigger: that’s the new war to be fought in the Middle East on behalf of Israel.

The eventual extermination of the Palestinians by the Jews was preordained by the British Empire.

In his book, Lawrence in Arabia: War, Deceit, Imperial Folly and the Making of the Modern Middle East, Scott Anderson explains how T.E. Lawrence, helping the Arabs drive the Turks out of a designated entire area on behalf of the British learned that the British intended to break their promise to the Arabs. Lawrence, knowing this promise would be broken, told King Faisal and thereafter worked as well as he could to help the Arabs in their struggle. All along, British Prime Minister Lloyd George intended to give Chaim Weizmann, leader of the World Zionists Organization, the green light to establish a Jewish state in Palestine and close out the Palestinians who were there.

In addition, Lloyd George and French Premier Georges Clemenceau made a secret agreement between each other as to how the entire Syria area was to be divided when the Paris Peace Conference was held. The British always stressed that Palestine would be a location for a “Jewish national home,” rather than publicly indicating they would occupy the entire area. It was never mentioned except within the Zionists circles that it would be eventually a Jewish state.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 01:03 | 6836614 BarkingCat
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So the Brits are weasels. Tells me something
I did not know. Let's add arrogant too.
How many centuries have they been fucking with places that are not even remotely in their neighborhood?

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 05:21 | 6836990 giovanni_f
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The English are evil. The strategy of destroying what you cannot exploit - so that no one erlse can - is English. The US is simply a copycat in this respect.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 05:29 | 6836992 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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The definition of Imperialism, which is embodied in our time by the neo-conservative forces in America.

It's hardly a coincidence that the latter are seen to offer unconditional support to the state of Israel.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:00 | 6834831 Dugald
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Is it not strange that Turkey a NATO member and dealer in stolen oil was allowed by other

NATO countries to do so and for a long time.

NATO...The never ending Cocktail party!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:58 | 6835073 JR
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The bottom line for me was when the antagonists on the ground shot the Russian pilots as they were parachuting down.  It is difficult to make a case for shooting down an aircraft in your airspace when you do not capture the pilots alive but instead exercise barbarism against what was obviously not an act of war.

Turkey has violated its trust as an ally because the US has an important relationship with Russia. For Turkey to take this action as an ally is the same as the US taking this action.  Look at the furor if US ground troops had shot down a Russian plane whether in its airspace or not and had executed the pilots while they were parachuting down; there’s no defense for this.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 00:51 | 6836583 anti-republocrat
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Turkey has violated its trust as an ally because the US has an important relationship with Russia.

Apparently, Obama does not agree and is willing to risk escalation by not reining in his mischievious vassal.  Instead, he says Turkey has a right to protect its territory.  But perhaps he has told Erdogan that Russia and Syria also have a right to protect Syria territory and Turkey will no longer bomb YPG.  Which is it, the lady or the tiger?  Only time and a sequel to the book will tell.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 20:05 | 6835318 DogOfSinope
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Thought experiment: What other NATO members we have around that Turkey might count on in the case of conflict with Russia? Let's see: Cyprus, Greece, Bulgaria and Romania. All predominantly Orthodox Christian nations. Though some of them might not have fond memories of Russia (Bulgaria, Romania), ALL of them hate Turkey. Erdogan's clero-fascist Turkey doubly so. You think that they'd send their youth to bleed for Erdogan and NATO? 

Who else borders Turkey? Armenia (hates them), Iran (hates them), Iraq (Kurds, hate them), Syria (Kurds and Alawites, hate them)

So, who'll fight for Turks agains Russians? Belgians? They are beseiged for a week already in their own capital by a hanful of islamic nutcases! Fins? Norwegians? Brits & Americans with supply lines streching thousands of kilometers?

If there'd be any major conflict Turkey'd be reduced to Anatolian shithole and Istanbul'd be called Constantinople once more.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 20:47 | 6835460 beemasters
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Turkey is good only when roasted....Happy Thanksgiving.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 22:58 | 6836111 Tall Tom
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TahoeBilly2012,

 

And the USA will retaliate with a "regime change"in Syria by targeting one cruise missile toward Damascus when the Russians target Ankara.

 

Does war really solve anything?

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 01:01 | 6836609 TahoeBilly2012
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No, just my point at how hypocritical the US is and why it supposedly ousted soem moany regimes in the area, danger to allies ect. ect.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 01:21 | 6836652 Mute Button
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WWI was a Zionist war to secure Palestine. WWII was a Zionist war to get Germany back into the central banking fold and empower the Zionist run USSR. War seems to have got Zionists quite a lot.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 04:07 | 6836896 Tall Tom
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So does war SOLVE anything?

 

Will a Thermonuclear holocaust be a solution?

 

Every life form, on the surface of the planet, will be killed as a result of the Nuclear Winter.

 

The most primitive of life forms may survive. It is an EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT.

 

Is that a livable solution?

 

Obviously not.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 06:31 | 6836973 africoman
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Hey all of ya out here,WWIII is also preplanned to be 'middle eastern' by 33 degree fremason called 'Albert Pike' by his letter to J.Mazzinie.When i first encounter reading it i dismiss it to be fake.But now oh boy!!! it has been fermenting towards it every day. As they planned it Muslim with christian athiest with terroriest all fucking each other will exterminate all at once and all duped none the wiser but zionist.I am para phrasing them for more read linkhttp://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_masonsknightste...

On the other hand there is Bibilical prophecy unfolding here. Which one is which to belive , interprate and act is up to us.Me i would like to follow the inevitable bibilical prophesy.For now i admire and support Russians and their leader in this bold provocation to drag Russia trigger of 3rd world war by downing their plane.Turky is playing bad game here, after 3rd world war i don't think there would be a fourth.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 19:31 | 6835200 backwaterdogs
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another classic link from truly classic fucknut

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 23:29 | 6836245 Aussie V
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Stick your porn up your arse you sick fuck!

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 00:25 | 6836506 jeff montanye
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i believe he makes the attempt on occasion.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:56 | 6834079 SWRichmond
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All of this needs to be viewed in the larger context of energy flows east to west.  There is massive energy transiting not only Ukraine but also Turkey and the Black Sea on its way west.  Ukraine...Crimea...Sevastopol...the Black Sea...the Bosphorus.  Georgia and Azerbaijan from the Caspian oil fields.

Oh look there's Turkey, and just south is Syria.  Hey, there's Iran.

 

If you want to understand this, the map is your friend.

Putin is not giving up, he cannot.  He would no doubt rather just sell energy, but he cannot give up Russian influence here.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:54 | 6834082 Occident Mortal
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Turkeys own chart/map clearly shows their own jet flying into Syrian airspace.

 

Which makes their stated zero-tolerance position utterly indefensible.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:22 | 6834113 chunga
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This Obama guy is such a fucking turd he could give an aspirin a headache.

The Latest: Obama Calls Russia 'The Outlier' in IS Fight

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-obama-hollande-meet-disc...

President Barack Obama says the downing of a Russian warplane by Turkey points to an "ongoing problem" with Russia's airstrikes in Syria.

I have to go outside because I can't read this shit anymore.

edit - does the world wide meddling campaign ever stop?

U.S. steps up Ukrainian combat training

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ukraine-obama-putin-russia-216160

Yavirov, Ukraine—The United States began combat training for Ukrainian Army forces on Monday, expanding its effort to help Ukraine defeat Russian-backed separatists.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 20:05 | 6835321 Flagit
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The anger has def reached the boiling point.

Trust me, before I go commando, I will leave the world a nice video detailing the events concerning world-wide fuckery, that sent me into my "psychotic" rage.

I should probably read up on Timothy McVeigh before making any rash decisions.

Psychiatrist John Smith concluded that McVeigh was "a decent person who had allowed rage to build up inside him to the point that he had lashed out in one terrible, violent act."[8] McVeigh's IQ was assessed at 126.[88]

Check, check, and...check. Man, I really wanted to be in the history books! Just thought it would be different.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 23:41 | 6836220 Tall Tom
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Did Timothy McVeigh's actions change anything?

 

If it continues to progress in the current direction there will not be any History Books anyway.

 

So it is different than you'd thought it would be.

 

Yeah I thought that when the Berlin Wall came down that we might have some peace and international cooperation. So Icelebrated.  I could not have been more mistaken.

 

I was looking forward to an international cooperation in the exploration and exploitation of the Natural Resources on other Worlds in our Solar System.

 

That would have been a much better constructive path rather than wasting our precious and limited resources by conniving one another's destruction and annhilation.

 

If only the same funds were created and then used for that, rather than "Defense", just think about how far we may have advanced.

 

Mining Mars, the Moon, and the Asteroids, may have been a boondoggle of sorts. It may also have been a bonanza. But at least it does not threaten our extinction.

 

So much for the "If onlys" as it is what it is.

 

What a total waste of resources, human ingenuity, and funds.

 

Yeah...I am brilliant...I paid for my own destruction. What a waste.

 

It is not worth it to go the route of Timothy McVeigh. 

 

First you will not be appreciated. The masses are not worth it.

In the short run it fundamentally changes nothing.

Finally it does not profit you to do it.

 

But do not misunderstand me. I can understand your sentiments.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:59 | 6834493 McMolotov
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Turkey can fly in Syrian airspace because Turkey is an ally of the US and has, by osmosis, absorbed some of our exceptionalism. The rules are rather fluid whenever Uncle Sam is involved.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 19:54 | 6835288 Blankone
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Turkey can fly in Syria because they are NATO and Putin fears NATO.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:06 | 6834131 Bunghole
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It appears from the chart that the Russian jet was in Turkish Air Space

That's one side of the story.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:01 | 6834845 Citxmech
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Look at the incursion point against the track of the F-16.  There is something very odd about the way the F-16 is just loitering around and then makes a bee-line for the intercept point, well BEFORE the SU-24 was anywhere near Turkish airspace.   

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 19:37 | 6835223 Bunghole
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It's amazing how the Turkish jet's flight path stops at the Syrian border too.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 20:07 | 6835328 Flagit
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Yes, the wrong side.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:56 | 6834084 Mike Masr
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FYI: The Moskva is a "carrier killer" chock full of missiles that can take out the largest sitting duck aircraft carriers!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:45 | 6834390 giggler321
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Assuming it's not sunk first

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:08 | 6834538 DogOfSinope
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Having in mind that it'd be supported by a ground-based s-300 systems and fighters from the firm ground air base mere 50 kilometers away in Syria - that's a safe asumption.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 19:19 | 6835147 highandwired
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You forgot Russian subs, they are there as well.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 00:02 | 6836392 Tall Tom
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And you forgot the American subs. You think that they are not there?

 

So let's have the crescendo...Global Thermonuclear War. Yeah!!! Go team go.

 

Do not fret too much. It will only be an EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT.

 

Yeah. When that sunlight is blocked out as a result of that NUCLEAR WINTER all of the Surface Plant Life DIES.

 

All of the phytoplankton DIE.

 

For anyone living in underground shelters..well... they are dead.

 

THERE WILL BE NO BREATHABLE OXYGEN.

 

Photosynthesis is required for OXYGEN generation.

 

There will be nothing ledt to emerge from those shelters. Soomer or later those will experience equipment failurs and then they suffocate...all of them.

 

It will take hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of years for any life left to reestablish itself on the surface.

 

Their systems cannot last that long.

 

And in an underground shelter resources will become depleted rapidly.

 

They will fucking kill the Planet.

 

And you want to cheer your team on to dojust that?!

 

You are a fucking first class fool.

 

If you want to commit suicide then just do not take anybody else with you. Do not cheer on a Global Suicide.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 00:31 | 6836527 jeff montanye
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bullish.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 07:57 | 6837139 DogOfSinope
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.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 08:00 | 6837146 DogOfSinope
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I didn't cheer for anyone.

Marely stated the fact. 

If you truly beleive in what you've said about preventing Global Suicide you should be in front of Langley CIA headquarters, protesting. Their actions brought the world to this point.

Otherwise, you sir are an hypocrite! 

And, because of throwing unprovoked insults, a fucking first class fool, too.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 05:46 | 6837008 pmurgs
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RT.com reports "Russia to deploy S-400 defense missile system to Khmeimim airbase in Syria - defense minister"

 

That should scare the hell out of all the Turk military pilots along with the 64 S-300F missiles on the Moskva cruiser.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 08:09 | 6837160 JRobby
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WWIII on schedule

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:18 | 6833844 balanced
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Israel is a military badass when it's up against children throwing rocks, but the next superpower? That's taking it a bit too far.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:24 | 6833882 ali_baba
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Yeah but we're still only talking about it taking over Saudi, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Yemen, Oman etc.

Once it does that, petrodollar is finished and so is U.S. Now it's time for the petroshekel. All the zionists will come from USA to live in the holy land. Their military will grow exponentially with the cash they will have secured..... and they will be one tribe. They don't allow uncontrolled immigration like we do. So no social problems.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:02 | 6834110 eforce
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Social problems are caused by Socialism.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 00:37 | 6836545 jeff montanye
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that is not completely convincing.  there are just too many social problems and so little socialism.

and even with six million more jews in israel, assuming they all migrate (who will run the u.s. government and media in their absence?) israel may continue to have social problems what with the stabbings and all, at least until they can get the palestinian exterminatiion camps up and running properly.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:06 | 6834133 farflungstar
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LOL the petroshekel! Haven't you noticed those israeli fags don't like to fight when people are shooting back?

Shlomo making a move is an ideal way though to get everyone to stop fighting among themselves and join forces against Kikestan - the way it was always meant to be!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:36 | 6834330 Socratic Dog
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They don't need to fight.  The USSA happily does it for them, and is equally happy to pay for the privilege.

Make no mistake, "Greater Israel" is well and truly on track.  Syria and Egypt are all that is needed, and both are looking pretty shaky. 

The question is only whether they have upped their sights from Greater Israel to the ISraeli Caliphate, err, Empire.  When your people control the world's financial system,  you have that option.  And their fortunes don't sink or swim with the petrodollar, like those of the US do.

The sheeple are so easily manipulated by false flags, and israel has demonstrated itself the master of that craft.  A nice one might be to, say, shoot down a couple of Russian jets and pretend the Turks did it, or ISIS.  Oh wait...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:05 | 6834519 NidStyles
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You missed his point, they will fail. They are too incompetent. They are not as intelligent as they think they are, and it's starting to show. It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

 

They've bought into their own propaganda, and their psychosis is starting to eat them apart for their constant removal from the real world and having to actually survive without the aid of others. They are like 100th generation welfare queens. Nothing more. 

 

Nepotism does not equate to success or competence. 

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:10 | 6834559 farflungstar
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Overt Kikestani intervention means all the warring Arab/Muslims immediately stop fighting each other and organize against Manischewitz! Just like they did when AmeriKa arrived in 2003! Just like the Arabs/Muslims did for decades after the founding of israel!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:01 | 6834841 ali_baba
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No it will not. Israel will never come out and fight in the open. They finance both sides and then control whoever wins by owning their debt.

It's the biggest setup in history. How can we get the holy land? We can conquer them easily but what about the masses. Well, the way things are right now do you think anyone will care if they kill Muslims?

The game is up. All the Arabs will be wiped out. The rest of humanity is enslaved....

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 00:48 | 6836574 jeff montanye
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well the muslims will certainly care and from the looks of it so will the russians and the chinese.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:24 | 6834935 Rhett72
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Thank you NidStyles for stating the oft-ignored truth -- the Zio Emperor has no clothes.  I work in a community dominated by Zionists and most of my colleagues are deluded into thinking their success comes from their own genius rather than a ruthlessly self-serving tribal network.  When they meet a goy who is more naturally talented than them and succeeds without the aid of the Tribe, their shock, anger and envy is palpable.

 

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 00:50 | 6836581 jeff montanye
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they certainly weren't expecting bernie madoff.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:49 | 6834782 Chris Dakota
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It's why Obama destroyed Libya so Israel could attack Egypt from the East and West.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:46 | 6834770 L Bean
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAaaa

"Petroshekel" is hilarious.

The rest of your act is lame.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:05 | 6834860 ali_baba
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What/Who is stopping them invading Arabia?

What effect will it have on the dollar if they start selling it in Shekels?

They created the petrodollar and they will destroy it.

The fact that the world finds it funny right now is the reason we are in this predicament.

 

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:27 | 6834946 Rhett72
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The Israelis dont need to invade Arabia -- they already control it.  The Saudi royal family are crypto-Jews (Donmeh / Sabbateans) who view their conquest of Mecca and Medina to be revenge for the defeat of Arabian Jews by Islam in the 7th century.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 23:33 | 6836260 Bring the Gold
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That's a fascinating comment. Can you back up what you are saying with a verifiable link or is that just a theory that's "out there". I believe that the deeper you dig, the darker it gets and that conspiracies abound. That said, that one is curious, it would explain a lot of things and simplify things greatly. It also might just be anti-jewish BS. Mind you I am DEEPLY critical of Israel and know they are behind many major events (much like the US, London, Riyadh etc.), I just don't buy all the "it's the Jews" theories that abound around here. For starters, there are PLENTY of power mad individuals who are not Jewish throughout history and presently. Secondly, I often feel people ascribe way too much power to that group of people. I also wish people would call it out more and say certain Elite Jewish Families which is no different than say the fact that the Queen's bloodline is rife with awful psycopathy or the Bush family or Rockefellers or what have you. I just get leery of some of the over the top anti-Jewish stuff on here. There is plenty to justifiably criticize about basically every group of ruling elites on Earth with rare exception. This is true throughout history. Oversimplifications get us nowhere, but potentially valid linkages, such as the one you are proposing (if it is indeed valid...) are informative as to the big picture.

TLDR; Link or it didn't happen. 

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 01:32 | 6836684 ShortCommonSense
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I looked it up.  Found this

http://www.strategic-culture.org/pview/2011/10/25/the-doenmeh-the-middle-easts-most-whispered-secret-part-i.html

and some other things about the Turkish Donmeh.  Very interesting.  In fact, this whole thing is so bizzare, Jewish tied Turkish Donmeh ordering the Russian jet to be shot down, is the only explanation I can think of which makes any sense at all.  Why would Turkey want to do something so indefensible and dangerous?  Especially as Erdogan has been trying to dig out from under the pressure from Israel and USA; why cause a shitstorm?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 20:10 | 6835336 Flagit
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All the zionists will come from USA to live in the holy land.

Damn nigga! You never said that shit! Lets get this train a rollin!

Whatever you need....it's yours.

 

(ssshhhh--just get them all in one spot--just for a minute)

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:01 | 6834104 Oracle 911
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Yeah while calling themselves chosen by God or master race.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:24 | 6834239 TahoeBilly2012
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Hey if they want to go toe to toe with the Germans I know who my money is on.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:04 | 6834520 NidStyles
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ROUND 2!!! FIGHT!!!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:48 | 6834416 giggler321
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>>Israel is a military badass when it's up against children throwing rocks, but the next superpower? That's taking it a bit too far.

If you think about it, taking the US dollar out will likely kill Israel.  Which country in the world gave the most to Israel over the last decade?  The sinking one...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:06 | 6834523 NidStyles
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That's why they are panicking. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:18 | 6834913 hawk nation
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Just park this ship outside Israel and the escalation will end. Bullies like Israel in the end are just pussies

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 01:00 | 6836605 jeff montanye
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and bibi is particularly cautious about war.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:01 | 6834114 Chris Dakota
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fuck this little jew liar.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:04 | 6834115 ArgentDawn
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Greater Israel Plan?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 20:38 | 6835423 maxamus
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Medina destroyed?  That's funky cold.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 22:47 | 6836065 tmosley
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That's just silly.  Pakistan has nuclear weapons.  SA surely has a program that could get them built within months.

No, even the prospect of a nation quickly developing nuclear capabilities is enough to deter war (assuming rational actors--which the US is sadly devoid of these days).

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:58 | 6833686 GhostOfDiogenes
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The Levant has always been under Ottoman oppression.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:18 | 6834916 WonderDawg
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Say again?

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 01:02 | 6836610 jeff montanye
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the divan is impressed by the footstool.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:58 | 6833687 GhostOfDiogenes
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The Levant has always been under Ottoman oppression.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:09 | 6833758 847328_3527
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Turkish-Armenian conflict rears its head in Lebanon:

 

A latent conflict between Turkey and Armenia has erupted in Beirut over the commemoration of the Armenian Genocide Centennial, particularly in terms of the Lebanese authorities’ stance regarding the celebrations that will be held to mark the occasion.

 

The Lebanese Armenian community — Orthodox and Catholic Christian — is firmly preserving its Armenian roots. The Armenian language is taught in the community's own schools, and the majority of the Armenians are affiliated with the Lebanese Armenian political parties.

 

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/03/lebanon-position-turke...

 

Erdogan, like most extreme right wing Islamics, hate Christians whther they are Russian or Armenian [or American for that matter]. To Erdogan and his merry band of beheaders, they are all infidels. It's surprising ZATO trusts him with any information.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:41 | 6833984 SWRichmond
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ZATO needs Turkey because of the straights, and the amount of energy pipelines and tankers transiting Turkey and the Black Sea.  They don't really care who's in charge.  Kind of like the CIA putting the Shah in charge of Iran.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 02:57 | 6834037 fleur de lis
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ZATO has never had any respect for the Turks. For their part, the ill-placed Turkish ego of wanting to be a part of Europe left them open to abuse by ZATO. Pusher/addict, pimp/whore, star/fan, whatever.

The terms of club membership meant that the Turks would be expendable pawns in exchange for fancy toys and a place at the European table. Where they get fed leftovers.

The Turks have betrayed their own history. Their EurAsian location should make them a regional power in their own right but they chose to be ZATO water boys instead.

It is the Turks who should be managing or influencing these events with their Arab neighbors but instead they allow themselves to be ordered around by Western psychos who are loyal to no nation.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:20 | 6834190 Lea
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"Erdogan, like most extreme right wing Islamics, hate Christians whther they are Russian or Armenian [or American for that matter]. To Erdogan and his merry band of beheaders, they are all infidels. It's surprising ZATO trusts him with any information."

That's because they suck at history, and mainly because they think they can manipulate everyone through bribes and power. In other terms, they think the whole world thinks in the same terms they do.
They are incapable of understanding others can be motivated by ideologies that have nothing to do with money.

BTW, you forgot: the Turks didn't only butcher the Armenians, they also slaughtered the Assyrian Christians and the Pontian Greeks (also Christians). That's three genocides they have never apologized for.
Erdogan and his ilk are the same sort as Hitler. Those who are trusting him (NATO, the USA) had better beware.


Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:36 | 6834326 Never One Roach
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My guess is moderate Turkish businessmen are already busy moving their $$$ out of Turkey before the civil war there.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:17 | 6834609 Herd Redirectio...
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Ataturk, the founder of 'modern Turkey' went to a Jewish Effendi school as a kid.  And is purported to have been a Crypto-Jew.  Make of that what you will, but it does make Turkey and House of Saud (also cryptos)'s actions a lot clearer!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:28 | 6834673 strannick
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the West doesnt give a shit if Erodagan is Hitler. just ask Presscot Bush.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 01:09 | 6836627 jeff montanye
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"hitler's a son of a bitch but he's our son of a bitch."

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:59 | 6833694 OregonGrown
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Putinphiles?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:12 | 6833730 Ignatius
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Went to breakfast and the TV was on CNN, Obama-Hollande news conference.  Constant assertion that Assad must go to stop ISIS??!??  Doesn't seem to register that Assad is being attacked by ISIS.

Bizarro world politics.  "Rational, scientific world," my ass.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:13 | 6833812 TBT or not TBT
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You went for breakfast at the airport waiting lounge?!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:15 | 6833818 Ignatius
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Yeah, it's great, you get a free ball massage courtesy the TSA.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:18 | 6834620 Herd Redirectio...
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i think they decided for optics, its best if the sheeple think ISIS runs Syria, hence Assad = ISIS.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:42 | 6834752 Ignatius
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Power politics, plain and simple.  If they can get a number of the rubes to believe these horseshit narratives then I guess they mark that as a win, also.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:46 | 6834026 Invinciblehandaxe
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what if instead of downvoting clowns we will upvote them?

what they do then?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:17 | 6833836 Nexus789
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I think knob is an appropriate moniker in your name. Hope your mum's basement is bomb proof.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:24 | 6833874 _ConanTheLibert...
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You were making a possible plausible case. Too bad you phukked up with calling us Putinphiles. Dismissed!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:47 | 6834033 Harnar
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So you have some evidence to back up your claims that Russia is "repeatedly" flying over Turkish airspace? 

As to the Putinphiles comment... it is natural to have more faith people who tell you the truth some of the time rather than to people who constantly lie to you.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:59 | 6834097 Bring the Gold
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This. I don't find Putin to be a savory character at all. Part of his most effective propaganda however is exposing the constant NATO/tel aviv/Riyadh/London/D.C. Lies. Quite smart. Mould public opinion by telling the truth. Only lie when you need to.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:05 | 6834128 Kayman
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So Knob

How is Erdogan going to finance his war with Russia, now that Russia (and belatedly the U.S.) have incinerated/ are incinerating all those Turkish oil trucks.

And it sure is going to be interesting to see NATO call on all its members to support Turkey. They all, including the U.S., are going to have to decide, support ISIS/Turkey or support Assad and Russia.

The East is East and West is West and NEVER the twain shall meet.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:07 | 6834537 jme540
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I suppose Mexico still considers Texas and California to be its teritory. I hope I didn't offend Mexicans when I visited California and therefore asserted US claims.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:36 | 6834727 Yuubokumin
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'With the Russians caught in the middle'

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

PLEASE, MY SIDES, PLEASE!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:59 | 6834828 garcam123
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I hope Putin blows Erdogan's asshole out through his nose while you're sucking his dick.....so let's just go with fuck you worm........while you're at it go suck obama's worthlessdick too, punk!

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:50 | 6835043 saltoafronteira
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caught in the middle seems to be exactly what the russians want. By the way: with russian fleets in east mediterranean and in the black sea, who's caught in the middle, mmmm ?

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:50 | 6841199 Macon Richardson
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If all of your assertions are true, perhaps you're right. Unfortunately for your arguement I don't accept your premises because they're only speculation on your part.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:52 | 6833632 BaBaBouy
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Well Thats Interesting... The STRATFOR chart shows the Turkey plane right up to the Syria border then cuts it off.
So the Turkey plane went into Syria making it the Agressor...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:10 | 6833774 TBT or not TBT
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He violated Top Gun rules of engagement, so he gets the girl.  

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:29 | 6833910 CuttingEdge
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Congratulations, Turkey.

Looks like you made the sovereign state of Syria a complete no fly zone for any Zato air power (who shoudn't fucking be there anyway).

Its now open season on any western pilot trespassing sovereign Syrian airspace.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:37 | 6833962 TBT or not TBT
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Well now that you bold "sovereign" who could dispute the premise?  The half dozen nations and countless fuckheads of all stripe running and flying around blowing shit up in Syria must heed the bolding of the sacred word.  

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 17:03 | 6834515 Blankone
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From Cuttingedge: " Its now open season on any western pilot trespassing sovereign Syrian airspace."

And just who is going to enforce that?  Is Putin going to grow a pair and declare a no-fly zone over Syria?  No.

Putin is in the park with old men playing checkers.  He did not see this coming.  His airliner was taken down.  Power lines to Crimea taken down  (will be back up soon). 

Why can NATO fly into Syria without fear and actually bomb Syria's army?

Why does Putin's jets get shot down by a NATO country while in Syria?

Why is Putin too afraid to declare a no-fly zone in Syria?

Why is Putin too afraid too supply the S300 system to Syria so it can defend itself.

Why can even Turkey bitch slap Putin openly?

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 00:21 | 6836495 anti-republocrat
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Why does Putin's jets get shot down by a NATO country while in Syria?

Looks to me like he just did, wrt Turkish planes.  I thought he'd impose sanctions on Turkish transit to the far side of the Caspian, where Turkey has markets and also cut off the supply of gas.  I must say I didn't expect this because I really thought Putin would not want to risk war, but I don't think it's a bluff.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 20:23 | 6835376 Flagit
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$50 says the joos remove the word "sovereign" from the next edition of Websters Dictionary.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:02 | 6833719 HungryPorkChop
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Maybe about right now would be the time to view this short 15 second clip from the Hunt For Red October.  This business will get out of control...and we'll be lucky to live through it. 

How fitting?!

https://youtu.be/gtIYkoL4P48

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:21 | 6833865 therover
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Yup...and Mr. Thompson died not too long ago

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:06 | 6834864 OzFan
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Flthy hoardes indeed....filthy filthy country and people. 

Call up the fellow orthodox, serbs greeks, they're still looking for a reason to get payback for tbeir filthy incursion centuries ago.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 00:12 | 6836457 anti-republocrat
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I disagree with the "filthy hordes" characterization.  They are refugees that the US created with Europe's complicity.  But I upvoted your observation of Europe's lack of balls to defy the US and Turkey.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:44 | 6833572 ali_baba
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Putin, does not walk into things with his eyes closed. Unlike the jokers on our side.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 14:54 | 6833660 Deus Irate
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Fact is we may never know exactly what Mr Putin does in retaliation (he does not seek such shallow flummery and certainly needs none) but we can all rest assured there will be plenty. What must be most alarming for the empire of chaos is that Russia has a legitimate casus belli under the international rules of war now, to at the very least blow some plump and rather smelly turkeys out of the sky.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:19 | 6833852 TBT or not TBT
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Of course, the international rules of war.  Oh the legal bills are going to pile up now.  

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:25 | 6833889 RiverRoad
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International rules of war are so yesterday according to ISIS at least.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:42 | 6834365 Socratic Dog
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"According to the US" might be more accurate.  ISIS is ours.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:53 | 6835052 Fractal Parasite
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According to IS.IL

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 15:52 | 6834070 Son of Patton
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Roast Turkey.

Just in time for Thanksgiving.

Putin doesn't play tiddlywinks like our CiC

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:55 | 6841213 Macon Richardson
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Sometimes he plays tiddly-winks. But unlike Obama/Hollande/Cameron/Merkel he plays tiddly-winks with manhole covers.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:56 | 6834470 Blankone
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This from Deus: " we may never know exactly what Mr Putin does in retaliation"

Great way to cover over Putin not doing anything.  It's so super secret and was so deadly no one ever knew anything happened.

Putin talks.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:59 | 6841222 Macon Richardson
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To those who have acutally lived a stategic life, doing nothing is quite often a brilliant stragegy.

"A man may remain silent and be thought a fool or he may speek and be proved a fool." Samuel Johnson

I like your handle, by the way. It fits.

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