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Trump On Waterboarding: "You Bet Your Ass I'd Approve It, Even If It Doesn't Work"
Donald Trump has had an interesting couple of days. Late last week, in an interview with Yahoo News, the GOP frontrunner (who, you’re reminded, recently regained the lead in Iowa as voters support his hardline stance on immigration) indicated that he would not be opposed to creating a database for Muslims. He then suggested that special ID cards for Muslim Americans would not be out of the question in a Trump administration.
In the wake of the Paris attacks, Trump has also said “some” mosques need to be monitored and, in a rather unnerving bit of foreshadowing, told the press that “we’re going to have to do some things that were unthinkable a year ago.”
Of course this is Trump we’re talking about and true to his “teflon” reputation, nothing he says seems to hurt his poll numbers. In fact, after Ben Carson rolled back claims that he witnessed thousands of people in New Jersey celebrating as the twin towers fell in 2001, Trump not only refused to relinquish a similar claim, he actually doubled down on it, saying “I saw it on the news reels and I read about it on the internet” even as no one (and several organizations have tried) can find any footage to substantiate that assertion.
Well, just one day after heckling an admittedly obnoxious Black Lives Matter activist who disrupted a campaign rally in Alabama, The Donald was back at it on Monday, this time weighing in on waterboarding. In a hilarious speech to a lively crowd in Columbus, Ohio, Trump confirmed that he would indeed support waterboarding of terror suspects and a whole lot more - even if the tactics don’t do anything to facilitate the war on terror. Here’s more from The Guardian:
Donald Trump touted the benefits of waterboarding in a campaign rally on Monday night, telling a crowd that “you bet your ass” he would bring it back into use.
Addressing thousands of people in Columbus, Ohio, the Republican frontrunner praised waterboarding, an interrogation method that has been called torture. “I would approve more than that,” he said.
Trump told supporters: “Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would. In a heartbeat. I would approve more than that. It works.”
The Republican frontrunner then added “… and if it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway for what they do to us”.
Take a listen:
Yes, a Trump administration would torture people "even it doesn't work" because after all, they (and we wonder if Trump knows who "they" are getting weapons and money from) "chop off our young men's heads and put them on a stick."
Trump went on to talk a bit more about the anti-American, rooftop protests he "saw" in New Jersey on 9/11:
Trump also doubled down on his unproven claim that Muslims in New Jersey celebrated the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the United States. Trump insisted there were “tailgate-style celebrations” on rooftops in Jersey City, New Jersey,
The author of the newspaper article that Trump has cited for that claim said on Monday that he does not remember any evidence of those celebrations.
But that matters not. This is about never letting a good crisis go to waste when you're running a campaign for elected office.
As far as scoring political points, the Paris attacks were in many ways the best thing that could have happened to Donald Trump. He's "strong" on immigration, "tough" on terror, and quite adept at whipping voters into what amounts to a nationalist frenzy.
Then again, when you look out at both the GOP and the Democratic field, there are no "good" choices, only less bad ones. At least Trump is outside of America's deeply entrenched and famously corrupt political aristocracy.
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Trump is a Zionist brown noser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Je73bYOY
I also keep hearing that he's his own man and no one "owns" him. Bullshit. I assume a large chunk of his money is kept in banks. Who owns those banks? That's who owns him.
Still the best option. Building beaner wall vs. waterboarding..still got my vote.
I guess the US have to have a Nutter in office from when things get nutty.
Just as we had a clown in office during the circus of 9/11 and Afganistan.
Just as we now have a Liar in office in a world of deceit.
And Trump says, "Damn it feels good to be a Gangsta..."
Sweet Caroline Sweet Caroline USSA USSA USSA How is Trump not a real estate crony capitalist going to change things? There has been a whopping 57 percent decline in the number of Mexicans crossing the border. The wall works two ways..
Real issues capx, FED, bank prosecutions, taxes are theft not duty...
Calling for last three POTUS jail for torture.. These military bases have not done any good since Marshal plan. Now that raises the build it use it in information age..
http://detaineetaskforce.org/report/download/
The Republican frontrunner then added “… and if it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway for what they do to us”...
Works for me! If we're holding them it's because they're terrorists....er, enemy combatants or something, waging jihad against western civilizations in the first place! Maybe fewer little girls or goats will be raped, and fewer Christians will be burned, drowned, blown up, decapitated, as a result.
After all, what we don't know won't hurt Us.
But But...that NAP!!!! WWJD FAGS>
You're assuming the waterboarders aren't the ones organizing just those kinds of deeds. Pretty quaint...even naive.
NEVER go " full Retard ! "
Sometimes he's seemingly said great things that make absolute sense and then he goes full wacko and says s*** like this. it's tricky to know what to make of the dude but who else are you gonna vote for
At first I was a YUUGGGEEEEEE Trump fan, now I find myself reassessing my position. Me thinks he gets sworn in at 12 noon and we're at full blow war by 5pm.
no, the thin smoker in the rainbow house will get it done
Hey Trump, 2009 called and they want their foreign policy back.... (wait, where have i heard that before?)
For this is how they do it these days!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-24/us-backed-rebels-release-video-...
Trump just trumped himself with all that rope the media has been giving him weekly. Frankly, it seems as though full blown fascism has taken root in America due to the ministrations of the Central Intelligence Agency as PSYOPS lead hand on MSM. Trump is just going with the scripted flow of a fascist insane police state. Chicago has blacksites it uses for means of interrogation, and torture/intimidation purposes. Trump is merely playing the same kind of tactical PSYOPS as the Police State uses when they use intimidation for utilitarian purposes. Hitler used this sort of intimidation tactic as well. Hitler youth lapped it up to the point of frenzy. George W. Bush used the same tactic when he said..."you are either with us [read neocons] or with the terrorists [read neoliberals & bleeding hearts]. Trump is telegraphing that he will do whatever it takes to achieve World domination as the megalomaniac fascist leader of the home of the slave & land of the indentured into servitude. In brief, Trump is prepared to go the distance to convince the American electorate that he is even more psychopathic than Adolf Hitler himself.
Trump is an American dump of political diarrhea the likes of which the World has never been exposed to in the history of the USA. Bottom line is that both Trump & average Americans are completely fucking out-of-the-loop insane.
W E L C O M E T O W O R L D W A R T H R E E
We waterboarded some folks!
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Washington Spectator _Donald Trump & The F Word_ by Rick Perlstein
http://washingtonspectator.org/donald-trump-and-the-f-word/
Trump is an asshat
Trump should be president
Why not both?
Everyone already knows that Trump is the mouth of NY.
Now he needs to focus on sounding presidential, which this is not a very good example of.
This is necessary in order to beat the sociopathic Arkansas hillbilly.
Hillary is not from Arkansas and is not a hillbilly. She is a Carpetbagger from Chicago and a sociopath, I'll give you that one
Trump is the man
Trump is more like each of us than we would like to believe.
Unfortunately that is why he is popular.
Speak for yourself.
Fuck you Zero Hedge
and the Shia-Euro horse you rode in on,
and your anti yid, head up their asses, libertarian cavalry behind you.
So... why do you come here, again?
why, to take the piss out of anti-intellectuals such as you of course
Trump needs to say he'll have Barry arrested and prosecuted the day after he's sworn in. From that moment forward the white house will be his.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Gee, you all upset because some poor scum towel-head get water splashed in his face? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Fuck you. And by the way, although no one is mentioning it, the Talmud is just as as fucked up as the koran. So when we ban islam we should give serious consideration to the jooz as well.
Short bus is about to leave. Better hurry.
you would know posertoaster
Remember when only Nazis, Japs, and bad guys in movies tortured people?
This isn't the same country I grew up in. I won't be sorry to see this government destroy itself.
Technically, you don't grow up in any country, the country grows up (or down) within you, as it is nothing but an abstract belief system.
"And I get on my knees and pray... we don't get fooled again!"
Every collective is an abstract belief system, even tribes. Some have more biological basis to the associative feelings than others.
However, people who CHOOSE to share a common set of values have a superior system. People who freely associate, are thinking beings with objective fact as their witness, can create a "country". This has probably never happened yet, but the tribe of choice is the future. Non Aggression Principle is the Occam's Razor of politics.
The statement was merely intended to remind people of the past, regardless of its truth. The government in this "country" has always been evil. But in the past no one would have openly, brazenly discussed torture in a positive light this way, especially after Nuremburg.
People have short memories, and need to be reminded of the things they have forgotten.
Don't you know those Nazis and Japs running concentration camps were really just CIA? America is the only evil country, everyone else just wants to live in peace but we keep false flagging their asses ... for the Jooz. /sarc
Yes indeed! Tyranny is tyranny no matter the country of origin!
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/12/gov-tortured-killed-innocent-peop...
"Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would. In a heartbeat….”
He’s going to shoot himself down if he keeps it up.
Plowing this groove has been effective for many memorable leaders in history. Is America ready to unabashedly unleash its full exceptional ugliness upon the world media stage?
Sure looks like it.
Bout time. We killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and didn't give a shit. Never even said "Sorry."
Perhaps we should just stop pretending. Then the rest of the world might have to finally step up.
YES, I WILL commit crimes. I WILL torture--whether they deserve it or not. YES, I AM a freak. YES, Hillary now has NO competition. Aren't I spectacular AND amazing?
awww isnt that cute....
Trump already has his first UN speech memorized: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iCWzpDpKs
Hilarious!
And, how is it that he isn't using this as his campain theme song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk
Great shit! Thanks.
Apparently all candidates love torture... so, no distinction that makes any difference. All candidates are completely corrupt and insane on most issues.
What really blows the mind is the notion of torturing SUSPECTS.
With this attitude, any "official" (cop) who simply CLAIMS to SUSPECT that maybe someone might have done something is prime material for TORTURE.
The predators-that-be in the USSA are now far worse than Nazi Germany.
Even worse, they're proud of it and brag about it.
And yet, still very few are willing to get the hell outta dodge before the get caught up in the gears of the statist, authoritarian machinery. Amazing!
suspects like bin ladens body guard and the mastermind behind lots of death shiek zayed...suspects my ass
Help me out here Ann.
Member for 5 years, but did not start posting till Oct 30., as far as I can tell.
Just around the time Russia flipped the switch in Syria.
Your comments seem to be in line with the status quo here, so I am just curious.
Why now?
I've been posting for the entire 5+ years. Not sure if or why my posts are invisible, but then again, I don't go back and look at old comments (mine or others).
Absolutely agree with you, honestann! And this is a powerful observation you make: "What really blows the mind is the notion of torturing SUSPECTS."
Are you this Lynn Trainor?
Lynn TrainorCaptain of Laziness at Reclining Chair with View
Coolest title of the Year.
Sorry to break it to you, that ain't me. If you are for torture you should be ashamed of yourself! Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely!
The Geneva Convention Rule 90: "Torture, cruel or inhuman treatment and outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment, are prohibited."
America is a signer of this treaty.
I shudder to think of the cruel tortures going on around the world against many poor, innocent souls who were not even tried in a court of law or given due process to begin with! This is against every thing America always stood for!!!!!
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/12/whos-right-torture-defenders-crit...
I didn't even mention torture.
That was Trump, and fuck him for saying it.
A few facts: The Washington Post article is dated Sep 18, 2001.
As a card carrying member of the American Destiny Party, and a wearer of silver shirts, I support Trump!
Trump 2016!
This.....
I cannot Abide.
Unbiddable, pass it around.
well there goes my vote for Trump-that and him wanting to hang Edward Snowden for exposing corruption......WTF kind of world do we live in?
Sounds like a Turncoat to me
Generation of traitors.
We get played by our own fantasies. Glad to hear you're finally taking stock of yours, my friend.
Remember the majority were taken by Barry Obola, too. Twice.
You're way ahead of the curve here, I hope.
If I didn't know better, I'd think his job is to make Killary look like an acceptable choice.
ed snowdon caused a lot of harm and people lost lives too, but he did some good, it was expensive treasure tho...we live in a world where radical islamic jihadists want to slit your throat with a dull knife...I guess you'd like that?
I'm sure the Tea Party, the Oathkeepers and other assorted "feel good, do nothing" organizations approve!
well of course libby...hey why don't you have them over to your house for a sleep over?
The Tea Party consists now of only Democrats, so anything goes.
And when you're done torturing them bury the animals in pig carcasses! Then force the Media to show photoshopped pictures of terrorists as caricatures of pigs!
No, that's too cruel. We'll continue to coddle terrorists and make sure we only show the best high school graduation pictures we have of them.
that is so 90's, use gasoline to do it...
Trump - What a FUCKING imbecile - Unless you grease the MIC you have no hope of being 'Placed' in the top job - "If voting made ANY difference - the wouldn't HOLD elections" Mark Twain
Trump - What a FUCKING imbecile - Unless you grease the MIC you have no hope of being 'Placed' in the top job - "If voting made ANY difference - the wouldn't HOLD elections" Mark Twain
PLEASE I beg you - dont vote
wake me up , this must be a nightmare. the news in the last few days is getting more and more absurd, it can't be real.
if someone made a movie about the things that are happening lately , no one would accept it as being close to credible.
LMFAO!!!! This planet is ready to explode!!!
He's not nuts or wacko. He just says what he thinks. Most people don't. As we were told about Obama, don't listen to what he says, watch what he does. I would say it's fair to apply the same rule to Trump. I expect results won't be as bad as the golfer.
Don't call Barry a golfer, he plays golf... Thats all, and there is a big difference.
I'd like to waterboard him and all of his supporters.
nummy, come on then, we are waiting...tap tap tap
so you are against waterboarding murdering in cold blood islamic extremists, but you are for waterboarding your countrymen? fucking traitor asshat
Just ask yourself how they got to be extremists in the first place?
Extremists are not born, they are made.
they have been at it for thousands of years, nothing has changed, America wasnt even a country when those people were chopping off heads, dont blame it all on America
I'm gonna cum board you..and you'll love it
GO TRUMP !!
Who needs water boarding, just cover them in pigs blood. They will tell you whatever you want.
HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS . . . it worked once in our History . . .
Once in US history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.
Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The US soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.
All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next50 years.
Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch. They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.
Fire with fire, folks...
Do I wish it was someone else saying this, yes but unfortunately we have a whole gaggle of PC politicians playing with our future. Hillary and BO's "hoping" they'd go away didn't work so well.
I was for Trump, had high hopoes for him, but because of his torture advocacy, no way will I vote for him now.
You forgot to mention you did not like the color of his hair too, yeah serious reasons bro, first things first, I am with you ...
Trump is wonderfull, honest, patriotic, sensible but above all not politically correct which is why the brain-washed (less) 'liberals' hate him, after 2 terms of Obama liberalism with the world on the edge of WW3 , Europe disintegrating and China and Russia ready to take over , let's hope that there will still be opportunity to vote for another US president and the liberal aristocracy exploiting America would not have managed to destroy the country yet.
Mexican gangs by now run America's southern borders and many inner cities, illegal immigrants to US vastly outnumber legal immigration, making a mockery of US laws and the state, the rich get richer and the poor poorer, Universities prohibit non liberal opinions .... just a taste of the state of the American dream ...
US needs Trump.
This guy has got to be a shill for Hillery.
Finally Trump hits the nail on the head. But his support for the issue apprears incomplete. In the spirit of ongoing bread and circuses I suggest we build a gaggle of Coloseums. Tickets allowing Public observance of the deed could be printed on shredded copies of the federal constitution. And to kick start the grand opening, Trump could be waterboarded by the IRS to confirm he has never cheated on his taxes.
Sadism/torture as a State doctrine, no wonder the USA is 1) drowning 2) the N°1 hated country in the world.
And Trump is not the only one. All of your political establishment is the same, maybe barring Sanders, who is a laughable political Shirley Temple.
You still think you are the 'good guys', 'Murikans? For Heaven's sake, look at yourselves in the mirror, and don't say "it's our leadership, we are powerless". Who votes in these insane warmongers in, me? (I am from the EU). You may have excuses, what with Fox News, Hollywood and Kim Kardashian taking all your available neurons, but too much is too much. You vote in utter psychos, you will be held guilty in the face of history.
Where are your protest marches, your petititions, your calls to Congressmen to stop the madness? You keep commenting about the "Zionazis" while listening to them and willy-nilly, you keep sucking in their propaganda. People from all over the world keep asking you to wake the fuck up, to no avail.
The trouble is you still think you are exceptional, which you are: in all the negative indicators, you are N°1. N°1 in porn consuming, in drug trafficking and addictions, in obesity, in divorces, in crime, in STDs, in jail population, in depressions, in child poverty in developed countries, and the list goes on.
Appealing to you for self-criticism and change is a lost cause. You do nothing against the havoc you cause for others and youselves. Wait: you want the legalization of pot, so you can sink even lower.
Meanwile, the wars you start kill millions on the planet.
Your "American dream" is a nigthmare to the whole world but, with your sadism as State doctrine, no doubt you enjoy it.
Do you even begin to realize what you are?
Maybe The Donald is the person who's been buying all the used copies of the Gestapo Training Manual on Amazon.com .
Being we're fucked no matter what and given the choices...
-------------Bernie 2016--------------------
At least we'll all party in the final days
Bullish Trump