Turkish F-16s Shoot Down Russian Su-24 Warplane Near Syria Border

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Moments ago a big black geopolitical swan landed when newswires lit up with headlines that a Turkish F-16 shot down what was initially said to be an unidentified warplane near the Syrian border after it violated Turkey's airspace on Tuesday, a Turkish military official said, but the nationality of the downed aircraft was not immediately clear.

The Russian jet crashed in the mountainous Jabal Turkmen area of Latakia, where air strikes and fighting between rebels and Syrian government forces were reported earlier on Tuesday. 

According to Reuters, Turkish F16s warned the jet repeatedly over the airspace violations before shooting it down.

A Russian Su024 aircraft goes down in Kizildag region of Turkey's
Hatay province, close to the Syrian border, on November 24, 2015

 

Footage from private broadcaster Haberturk TV showed a warplane going down in flames in a woodland area, a long plume of smoke trailing behind it. The plane went down in area known by Turks as "Turkmen Mountain" in northern Syria near the Turkish border, Haberturk said.

 

Minutes later, the Turkish Lira sank like a rock while risk assets across Europe tumbled when the Turkish presidency confirmed that, as many had expected, the jet was a Russian fighter jet, which the Russian Defense Ministry later said was a Su-24. The Su-24 jet was warned after violating Turkish airspace and was then downed in line with Turkey’s rules of engagement, Anadolu says, citing officials at the presidency.

According to Todays' Szaman, in a statement, the Turkish military said a plane of unknown origin was shot down after it violated the Turkish airspace despite repeated warnings. The aircraft was warned 10 times in 5 minutes, the military said.

It said two Turkish F-16s were involved in the shooting down of the jet.

However, while moments ago the Russian defense ministry confirmed that the shot down plane was indeed one of its own in what will be deemed a clear act of aggression by a NATO-member country against Russia, the Russian defense ministry said it could prove the aircraft was over Syria for the entire flight.

The ministry added that the pilots ejected, according to preliminary info, and that Russia trying to determine their fates, Interfax reports.  Interfax also adds that the plane was probably downed by fire from ground, and that it had been flying at flying at an altitude of 6,000 meters.

Meanwhile, Turkish media reported that either one or both of the pilots may have been captured by Turkmen forces located in the region.

  • TURKMEN FORCES CAPTURE 2 PILOTS OF DOWNED RUSSIAN JET: AHABER

Although there is confusion whether both or just one pilot was captured

  • SYRIA TURKMEN FORCES SAY 1 PILOT OF DOWNED PLANE CAPTURED: AA

Especially with a YouTube video spread showing what is alleged to be one of the pilots dead

More:

A CNN Türk reporter in Yaylada? said a helicopter was hovering over the scene of the crash, apparently to pick up the pilots, but that opposition fighters were preventing it. The reporter later said one of the pilots was at the hands of Turkmen opposition fighters.

 

Prime Minister Davuto?lu has been briefed by the General Staff and ordered the Turkish Foreign Ministry to contact NATO, UN and relevant countries about the downed plane.

This huge escalation in the Syrian proxy war, one where a NATO country has openly attacked a non-NATO country (if Russia is correct and it did not violate Turkish airspace), comes after Turkey called this week for a U.N. Security Council meeting to discuss attacks on Turkmens in neighboring Syria, and last week Ankara summoned the Russian ambassador to protest the bombing of their villages.

Ankara has traditionally expressed solidarity with Syrian Turkmens, who are Syrians of Turkish descent.

We await a formal reaction by Russia, one which we doubt will be calm, cool and collected and may in fact see the Turkish aggression as an act of war if indeed the Russian Su never entered Turkish territory.

Here is the official statement by Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov via Sputnik:

"So far, we have not heard the reason for the crash of our attack aircraft from the Defense Ministry. We know for sure that the aircraft was in Syrian airspace, over the territory of Syria," Peskov said, noting that the ministry's first statement on the crash was based on preliminary information.

 

"It would be wrong to make some kind of assumptions right now, to make any statements until we have the complete picture. Therefore, we just have to be patient. This is a very serious incident, but again, it is impossible to say anything without complete information," he added.

 

"It can be assumed that the president… will touch upon this issue during the talk with the king, and that there will be some kind of a reaction," Peskov told reporters when asked whether Putin would make a statement on the matter.

Elsewhere, the Turkish army released what it claims is a radar path analysis of the downed jet's flight path:

At first blush it is not clear how the airspace violating jet could have received "10 warnings" in the several seconds it took to cross what the Turks claim was the offending Turkish territory, especially since the plane ultimately crashed in Syrian territory.

Updates to follow.

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Tue, 11/24/2015 - 05:07 | 6830593 blabam
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BULLISH!!!!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 05:17 | 6830599 Haus-Targaryen
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Oh fuck me. This is TBTB testing Vlad to see what he does.  

I am sure he has a reaction already planned for a situation such as this.  I imagine it will be financial, and be a *HUGE* sum of money.  If the Turks refuse, then Russian jets get "free fire" on any Turkish jets in the area.  

God be with the pilots on both sides.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 05:20 | 6830611 scintillator9
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No Haus, Fuck us All would appear to be far more appropriate.

Unfortunately, the roaches have their hidey holes to scurry off to while we all have a front row seat to the ultimate show without SPF 10 Billion sun block.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 05:24 | 6830615 Supernova Born
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So Turkey shoots down Russian pilots bombing ISIS over Syrian territory.

So much for all that ISIS horseshit the Western media has been pumping.

 

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 05:25 | 6830621 PR Guy
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Whoops, Apocalypse.

 


Tue, 11/24/2015 - 05:35 | 6830648 thesonandheir
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Two things need to happen here.

 

NATO needs to be disbanded as an anachronism of the cold war.

 

EU needs to disband as a failed project.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 05:37 | 6830652 ACP
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"Polonium tea, Mr. Erdogan?"

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 05:41 | 6830659 StackShinyStuff
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FARGIN' WAR!!!!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 05:47 | 6830676 ACP
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Does this mean there will be no Turkey for Thanksgiving?

Har-har!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 05:48 | 6830682 Harlequin001
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We need to be rid of the Americans.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:08 | 6830712 Supernova Born
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Did North Korea take over Turkey?

This insane shoot down seems very NORK-like.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:13 | 6830744 fudge
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Turkish news reports both crew dead :-(

Russian forces at alert, Engels 2 alert.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:26 | 6830777 Anonymous User
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Turkey just put herself on a straight path towards a world of hurt:

 

http://goo.gl/VhZdyZ 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:33 | 6830791 Never One Roach
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The Islamic extremists of war-like Turkey have a long hisotry of disliking the peace loving Christians of the Russia.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:05 | 6830883 Surviver22
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Americans, it is time to PANIC! WW3 already started!

http://goo.gl/T62Tr8

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:29 | 6830936 Supernova Born
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I'd give a Viking funeral to that dead pilot (RIP) where he lay with a thermobaric bomb from high altitude.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:29 | 6830946 VinceFostersGhost
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We need to be rid of the Americans.

 

Don't look at US. We didn't do it.

 

Yeah, this is bad.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:39 | 6830962 Laowei Gweilo
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A Russian jet at full speed would probably be in Turkish airspace less than 15 seconds... the border 'finger' they have to annoyingly go around is rather small, so even if they did inadvertently go through it... Turks would have to have a pretty effing fast trigger finger

 

Russian jets have probably been skirting through it for weeks not and the Turks are pissed off like an angry old man on his lawn watching kids ride their bikes to close

 

so they had to have had their F16s already there, impossible to scramble them to intercept in the short distance a Russian jet could possibly accidently be in Turk air space.... Turks were probably waiting there to see if the Russians skipped into their lawn for a second and bam...

 

stupid.... i'll be surprised if even obamanuts defends the turks for something this dumb lol

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:23 | 6831099 africoman
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Good theory, but don't forget that, Nato at the begining of Russian Air strike back in a month accused Russia violating turkish air space one of nato member, even if it was false.For that BS Russian's answer was by showing their capacity of Sending 30 cruse misiael fired from Russian War ship all gone under radar at knight via Iran and Iraq and shot the enemy. For w/c the BS of violating air space stoped but replaced by other lie that some of the misael droped on Iran...you remember those drama

 

On light of this, Russia willn't do such mistake even slightly, as NATO/USA are notoruries  on fabricating such alligations.So my view is this another dare me lie bullshit prpoganda.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 09:24 | 6831386 Seer
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Further, for what reason would Russia need for entering Turkish air space?  Russians only need to guard/patrol the border.  This is clearly a retaliation for Russia whacking those oil tanker-trucks.  I suspect that the US State Department is going to be working pretty hard here trying to come up with a spin that'll cover Turkey's ass as well as continue the charade of the two of them (and NATO) fighting AGAINST ISIS.  So, yeah, this will likely produce one huge whopper of a lie.

This had to have been a total surprise to Russia.  Might be the opportunity they've been looking forward to for disclosing some really nasty shit on the true  supporters of ISIS.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 09:38 | 6831485 Seer
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AND... just as I predicted:

Putin Accuses Turkey Of "Backstabbing", Funding ISIS, Sees "Serious Consequences" To Ties

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-24/putin-accuses-turkey-backstabbi...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:21 | 6831691 1223pm
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US is a friend of no one. After Pakistan it is time for Erdogan to learn a lesson.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:26 | 6831746 Agstacker
Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:00 | 6831589 Jim in MN
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‘Russia Studying American Cookbooks Intently for Turkey Roasting Tips’

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:16 | 6831665 GMadScientist
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Chapter 3: Stuffing

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:16 | 6831662 GMadScientist
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Maybe they just followed the trucks full of oil ISIS is trying to fence to the nearest shady pawn shop.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:32 | 6831121 Stainless Steel Rat
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A russian jet at full speed, would have to take a path 90+ km long to be in their airspace for 5 minutes.  The only way such a path would fit in the entire area is if the plane travelled north to south from north of Iskenderun.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 09:02 | 6831261 Chris Dakota
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Putin: I can see Constantinople from my house.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:23 | 6831719 Chairman
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Putin: I can see the mushroom cloud rising from what used to be Constantinople from my house.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:00 | 6831019 Tarshatha
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 One Russian pilot dead. https://youtu.be/RHd7dZJTFCY
Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:22 | 6831092 Max Steel
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Time has come to show  allah snackbaring real hell . RIP

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:39 | 6831150 balanced
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In perfect time for Thanksgiving. I hope Russia cooks that Turkey.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:46 | 6831170 Max Steel
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They can always chase it out by their fighter , I am sure the Russian pilot would simply flee away if they find a fighter at its tail.

Russians havent bombed any target inside Turkey by mistake , so neither country is at war to shoot it down , Nor did Su-24 challange the F-16 into combat or dog fight 

Shooting down is an extreme end of the spectrum and with dead pilots on the Syrian side of border that wont go down well.

 Both the Pilots are dead now . RIP : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUkaMW7UwAITI6M.jpg

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 09:27 | 6831419 Stuck on Zero
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It's all about arms sales. That shootdown was necessary to show that Russian jets could be taken down by American jets.  Now watch us get all cozy with the Russians.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 09:35 | 6831443 Bob
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Exactly.  For them to shoot it down, even if it was in their airspace, they had to regard it as hostile, i.e., be on a near-war footing with a considered enemy.  But Russia has not actually attacked official Turkey assets in any way . . . their targets are the various invading forces and Syrian opposition military. 

"Violated our borders" is bullshit as a reason for shooting the Russian plane down in any case.  They knew it as a Russian plane . . . they deliberately started some very serious (I hope) shit.  I doubt it would ever happen without US approval. 

It's probably pay-back for cutting off the ISIS oil operation and Erdogan Jr.'s income stream.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 09:33 | 6831462 Seer
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Yes, Russia has no motive, nothing to gain by entering Turkish airspace.  Patrolling the border is sufficient.  And if Russia were actually chasing "bad guys" over the border I'd figure that they'd be doing it with more than just one plane, and that they wouldn't be downed by the Turks (via air-to-air).

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 09:19 | 6831333 ACP
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Didn't log in (due to youtube censors) to see the video, but probably the same one as this.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=425_1448360570

 

So...if Turkey claims to have shot down the plane over their territory, why are snackbarian terrorists surrounding the body of the pilot?

And...if Turkey continues to insist this is their territory, why is Turkey not being bombed?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:07 | 6831623 duo
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The facial injuries to the pilot look like they occurred after his helmet was off, as in he was beaten to death on the ground.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:13 | 6830885 Occident Mortal
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Turkey has blown it for the West.

 

NEXT MOVE: Putin is going to declare a no fly zone over Syrian airspace and Western Iraq in partnership with the Syrian and Iraqi governments.

 

 

Russia will then deploy S-400's to enforce it ending all Western sorties over the theatre and will be extremely trigger itchy towards the Turkish border.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:45 | 6830980 sushi
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No more USUS dropping 50 tons of arms and ammo into the desert in the vague hope the camels who find it are anti ISIS camels and will shoot the corect people at the correct time and place.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 11:39 | 6832276 Rakshas
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I never really understood why the Russians weren't delivering MOAB's right behind the US-NUTZO weapons air drops you know give em enough time to show up to collect the little shit then show em what the big shit looks like ..... actually show them what thier buddies ass looks like from the inside when the blast wave hits em....... oh well nobody likes a Monday morning quarterback.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:47 | 6831171 eforce
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Expect Russian fighters to be requiped with R-77's and orders to shoot down any NATO plane that gets within range.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 09:57 | 6831577 1223pm
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At this point-n-time a Russian cruise missile fly pass over till-aviva will calm down every one.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:22 | 6831707 BarkingCat
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Let's not get carried away here and call Russians peace loving.
How the hell do you think they got to rule over the largest land mass???? Give it out flowers and drum circles???

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:14 | 6830747 turtle
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Maybe we finally get told who did 911

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:46 | 6830949 VinceFostersGhost
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Start with what they've got on Obama.

 

They have everything and they're not the only ones.

 

Our President is compromised beyond belief.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 09:35 | 6831472 Seer
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Like this isin't the first POTUS?

Party pussy...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:27 | 6834259 Alvin Fernald
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Info on 911 is far more important than the prez.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 16:45 | 6834394 Bring the Gold
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Yep. That would help to point to the real PTB hiding in the C.O.G. (Continuity of Goverment), Shadow Government. One can hope he will bring this up. That would be amazing and game changing.

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