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Atlanta Fed Slashes Q4 GDP Forecast

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Just when you thought it was safe to hike rates, The Atlanta Fed takes an ax to its Q4 GDP forecast, smashing it to cycle lows following this morning's unexpected weakness in consumer spending.

The GDPNow model forecast for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the fourth quarter of 2015 is 1.8 percent on November 25, down from 2.3 percent on November 18.

 

The forecast for the fourth-quarter rate of real consumer spending declined from 3.1 percent to 2.2 percent after this morning's personal income and outlays release from the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis.

The Atlanta Fed model is now almost half 'consensus' expectations...

Source: GDPNow

Which only serves to confirm Goldman's earlier mark down...

This morning’s data were net negative for our tracking estimate of Q4 GDP growth, which we lowered by three tenths to +2.0% (qoq ar).

 

Weaker-than-expected consumer spending for October implies less consumption growth for the quarter as a whole (we revised down our Q4 PCE estimate to +2.5% from +3.0% previously). There were partial offsets in today’s data on housing and equipment investment, as well as inventory accumulation.

Assuming this 1.8% growth in Q4, that means full year GDP will average 2.1%, well below the 2.4% in 2014. Time to hike rates for sure!!

 

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Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:01 | 6838605 KnuckleDragger-X
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Shiny forever, with rainbows and unicorns for everybody......

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:08 | 6838662 BlueViolet
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America wake up. Come back to God and follow The 11 Commandments >> http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-3lk

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:13 | 6838692 LowerSlowerDela...
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A LOT of URLs being hidden behind URL compressors/hiders getting posted on ZH lately.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:23 | 6838765 xyzcracker
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Most transparent administration, since what?

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:39 | 6838884 KnuckleDragger-X
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Nixon and LBJ......

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:12 | 6838691 venturen
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for the 1% crony it is

And now Obama and the Democrats are introducing anarchy on college campus and BLM! Who doesn't like Anarchy after they take your guns away

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:21 | 6838746 gaoptimize
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Unicorns?  I'd prefer a couple milking goats, which are increasing hard to find.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:04 | 6838631 44magnum
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" Weaker-than-expected consumer spending"

 How could they possibly expect anything but? How do they stay employed if they are constantly wrong?

Oh yeah when you control everything you are never unemployed. Duh


Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:14 | 6838706 LowerSlowerDela...
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But our health care spending (read cost) is WAY up.  Thanks Obama!

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:05 | 6838639 Smegley Wanxalot
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So effin robust is the economy.  I think I'll go out and buy me a snickers bar at the dollar store to celebrate Thanksgiving.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:09 | 6838665 semperfi
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all scripted - anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete fool

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:09 | 6838667 Normalcy Bias
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L@@K! OVER THERE! Kim Kardashian has a big fat ghetto ass full of cellulite!

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:09 | 6838669 JamaicaJim
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Print, mass helicopter drop, GOBS OF MONEY FED. GET TO WORK YELLEN YOU TWAT.

 

FUCK IT...RIDE THIS BITCH UNTIL THE WHOLE GOD DAMNED THING BREAKS DOWN LIKE AN OLD FUCKED UP MULE....

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:10 | 6838674 Id fight Gandhi
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No rate hike, Santa rally to record highs.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:15 | 6838714 Clesthenes
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“Atlanta Fed Slashes Q4 GDP Forecast”

So, what’s the significance of a forecast based on a number that is, fully, 35% pure fluff?

That’s right, “pure fluff”.  That’s the conclusion we arrive at after a study of so-called Gross Domestic Product (GDP)

One of its components is “investments” – plant, machinery or software; these are examples of consumption of capital – not production of capital.  The money expended on them is no longer available to anyone else; the resources, the same.  They are entered on accounting ledgers as delayed expenses, with the anticipation that they will be “expensed” (or recovered) annually over the next 5-30 years.

In other words, the money and resources represented by such investments are lost forever – unless the business in question can recover such money and resources over those 5-30 years.

If ineptitude or lack of foresight intervene, we are looking at a massive write-off of capital.

Then there is the component of government spending, which represents money spent on toilet seats, munitions and attendant bribery that will never be seen again – except what is stashed in off-shore banks… and that as a minus.

These two components mean that, fully, 35% of the US GDP index is pure fluff.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 13:36 | 6838854 Oldballplayer
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They must have gotten a weather forecast that its going to be either really freakin' cold....or glass metling hot around the world.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 14:06 | 6839058 johnlocke445
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Even the predicted 2.1% average GDP will be a big lie. We are truely in negative GDP growth.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 14:48 | 6839311 bmr22
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Just waiting for the snow to fall

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 15:08 | 6839402 Goldbugger
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Bullish , SPX to 2300

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 16:58 | 6839915 maxamus
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I don't even know anymore if a rate hike will make the market go up or down.

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