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The Future Of Cannabis

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The recreational cannabis industry is changing fast, and the last few years have been a blur for investors observing the space.

More people today believe that cannabis should be legal than ever before, and famed investors like Peter Thiel have already made giant bets on the future of recreational cannabis.

Here’s five facts you need to know on the fast-moving industry:

  1. Recreational cannabis is already legal in four states and D.C. It is also available for medical purposes in 20 other states, as well as Canada. Viridian Capital Advisors, which provides research to the cannabis sector, estimates between 6 to 13 states will legalize recreational usage by end of 2016.
  2. Legal cannabis was a $700 million industry in Colorado last year. In 2014, Colorado retailers sold $386 million of medical cannabis and $313 million for recreational purposes. The two segments of the market generated $63 million in tax revenue, with an additional $13 million collected in licenses and fees.
  3. Stocks in the sector have boomed over the last two years. The Viridian Cannabis Index, which covers 60 publicly traded cannabis companies in the United States and Canada, was up 77.5% in 2013, 38.4% in 2014, and 23.6% in 2015 Q1.
  4. Total legal cannabis sales have sailed in recent years With $1.6 billion in sales in 2013, it is expected to increase to $3.5 billion in 2018, which is good for an expected 17% compound annual growth rate.
  5. Nearly half of U.S. states and all of Canada now have access to medical cannabis. That includes 23 states (148.6 million people), 1 district (0.7 million people) and Canada (35.2 million people). That’s 52% of the entire population of the United States and Canada.

 

The landscape of the cannabis industry is quickly changing. More jurisdictions are turning to legalization of medical and recreational cannabis, and the growth story behind the industry is just beginning for investors.

Source: Visual Capitalist

 

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Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:02 | 6841042 HedgeAccordingly
Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:07 | 6841064 90's Child
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I've been buyin MJ stocks for a while now.

Hopefully they blow up.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:35 | 6841134 Skateboarder
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Monsatan's Law: If it can be modified, it will be modified.

Perhaps not right now, but someday soon - be careful what you smoke, friends.

p.s. cannaStocks are probably the biggest blow-up "investment" since the bigIPO scam of late, except this aint gonna be no scam. If I didn't absolutely abhor the current "markets" and the idea of participating in them (you continue the charade by being a participant, hence my non-participation), I would be buying 'em like silver. Mmm... silver....

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 00:16 | 6841276 0b1knob
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Yeh sure drugs are great for the economy. 

Just ignore all the lost productivity, accidents, and general phuckery done by stoners. 

I can hardly wait for your analysis of the benefits of the legalization of heroin. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 00:41 | 6841341 coinhead
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Buh drugs and do drugs with your kids!

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 02:52 | 6841543 Soul Glow
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I grew weed in Arcata, CA - the WEED CAPITOL OF THE WORLD - for two years and grew weed in Oregon this year, and I can tell you, weed growers/dealers can be the scum of the earth.

Sometimes they are just as bad as bankers - ZH most hated enemy.

Weed growers/dealers pretend to be social and environmentally conscious, but they are cut-throat capitalists whom sell their friends out when it comes to the margin.  Yet they speak/vote socialist.  So that's the rub; I don't care if someone is capiatalist, go ahead and hire cheap labor, but the weed game doesn't pay the workers a lot.  One reason is because there is no union.  People hire desperate people to work, and then don't pay them what they are owed.  All the time.

And what else is to be expected?  It is a billion dollar business.  Who needs friends when you are making $1,000,000 a year growing a fucking weed?!

Seriously, the weed game is tainted with blood.  It won't save America from collapse, even if the $$ post-pone it monetarilly.  Americans are greedy from top to bottom.  The economy will fail.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:02 | 6841569 Skateboarder
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Surely you've been to Garberville, and maybe even Honeydew, CA. Once while hitch-hiking through the region in '07 after backpacking the lost coast, my friend and I got a ride from a man in the area, and he gave us some insights into the life there. He had been to prison due to the politics of the land and trade, and his lawyer friend busted him out.

90%+ of the people there are in the business, he said, and it is all very cutthroat.

I have had the chance to meet and talk to several growers - they are all very cutthroat indeed. Tainted with blood, some are, and some are merciless. Some are thieves, and others are honorable, and most are without any clear purpose in their being. Of course, those are the observations from the handful of people I have seen. The older generation, boomer-aged, are better in their behavior and thought. A friend's father, whom I had the pleasure of meeting, was an honorable gentleman as such.

It's not like growing and selling tomatoes lol - there is a certain taboo associated with the trade, and it is riddled with bloodlust, druglust, and moneylust as everything drug-related in this modern world goes.

The shamans of old are long gone...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 08:35 | 6841884 Anonymous User
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Smoking marijuana is fun, but when you lose your job due to absenteeism, low productivity, accidents, etc  this will be the most probable future for all dope users.

(There's no such thing as free lunch):

goo.gl/3G3r6i

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:00 | 6841936 FrankDrakman
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Oh, for pity's sake. I smoke a bowl 5 days out of 7, and still get up every morning at 6 am, and ride a bike 30 minutes to work (and it's freakin' cold in Toronto!). I'm highly productive at work, so much so that another company is looking to make me an offer, and I can surf ZH while getting my work done. 

Research indicates pot CAN mess up developing minds (e.g. kids under 20), so I can see restricting it from minors for that reason, but for adults?  Your argument about irresponsible use would be exactly the same if you replaced "Smoking marijuana" with "Drinking whisky", and we saw how well Prohibition worked out. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:37 | 6842024 SoilMyselfRotten
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And rarely does a recreational drinker get labeled an unproductive worker/member of society. A reasonable person with any level of resposibility wouldn't drink or smoke on the job.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:58 | 6842104 Oldwood
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all things are harmless in moderation,but it is in the nature of drugs and booze to create some level of addiction for some people. What we face is a strict prohibition that rather than easing will be thrown wide open. Our system is only guided by laws now with morals playing virtually no role. As such what is illegal one day and becomes legal the next has no inhibitor to abuse. We saw this with abortion, where what was considered immoral and illegal became common and acceptable overnight, leading to massive increases in abortion as well as disease and permissiveness. Most of us who grew up in the sixties and seventies understand both sides of this argument. My concern is the impact of almost overnight revisions of law that can have direct and devastating effects on people's lives. Illegalization of these drugs can seem arbitrary and unjust, but causes little personal harm by depriving us of this liberty, where the reversal of these laws can potentially destroy many lives. All I seek is moderation in all things and am sick and tired of Jekyll and Hyde policies. Putting people in prison for smoking pot is as stupid as pretending it presents no risks.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:08 | 6842145 Buster Cherry
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I like your sensible comment.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 11:46 | 6842526 Dinero D. Profit
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I reject Oldwood's argument in part. Herb is and has been ubiquitously available for 50 plus years.  Tens of millions of people use and have used herb regularly. 

Marijuana effects a sense of wellbeing, stimulates a sense of beauty, and encourages a natural sense of values.  No wonder it is such a threat to theologians. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:52 | 6843402 Oldwood
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As a child of the sixties, I quite aware of the effects of pot, and have also tested current versions of higher end weed in Colorado, and there is no comparison. This new shit is strong. I'm not for legalization or making it illegal in our current sense. It should have common sense restrictions to protect the young and not carry any heavy penalties beyond public intoxication and drunk driving. The problem i see is the transition for penal system status to new age embrace. Drug use will increase and so will its collateral damages. This hot and cold mess we have created is even more destructive than the drugs themselves.

The other side of this, the "collective costs", are another issue. As long as society is forced to take responsibility for this collateral damage, we will have no choice to to limit our freedoms. We have created a single payer social insurance system that increasingly is removing the cost of individual choice and transferring it to the collective, the paying part of the collective ... those who work and pay taxes. conservatives, regardless of their desire for freedom and personal responsibility, will not support liberalization of any legal standards as long as they feel they will be forced to carry their ultimate costs. Exactly why most refuse to support immigration reform, as we KNOW that it will only result in MORE immigration and higher costs to our earnings, jobs, taxes and everything else.

At this point I doubt if I could support ANY change coming from government as I am far too jaded and cynical to believe they will do anything in policy that will not ultimately fuck me in the ass. For all you yearning for legal weed, I'm sorry if you feel I am an impediment to your freedoms, as I largely agree, but until they get the social addiction to government off my back, I likely will not go there.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:17 | 6843636 MSimon
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And the cost of Prohibition - including the prison industrial complex - is free?

 

It used to be that parents were in charge of protecting their children from environmental dangers.The government has never been good at that. See Success, Prohibition.

 

Most of the dangers ascribed to pot are refer madness. It is medicinal (cures cancer) and there has yet to be a recorded overdose fatality. Compare that with alcohol.

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:28 | 6842208 GMadScientist
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This goes well beyond "gray areas" about when it is or is not the state's job to step in...this is a growth industry for private prisons on the other side of the legalization fence. Having something that is both illegal and everyone wants to do is an essential plank in their platform of profit and pensioneering.

If that moderation comes from the barrel of a sherrif's shotgun, it's not really moderation is it? This is a human problem and not something that is amenable to being solved by governments. Period.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 11:19 | 6842398 DontWorry
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the key fault in your argument is choice.  People have the right to make a choice about their life if it doesn't harm someone else.  People are harmed much worse by being deprived of their liberties or put in jail than having the choice to smoke weed. 

What happens when the government "Illegalizes" a liberty that you enjoy?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:14 | 6843472 Oldwood
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Freedom and choice are important, and we all have a right to pursue them to our heart's contentment. Right now...speaking for myself, the ability to anesthetise myself falls down the list a bit, and honestly seems like an inhibitor to real freedom, if the extent of that freedom is defined by remaining stoned.

If the legalization of drugs defines our freedom, be well prepared to see our freedoms soon to be provided in the form of a government mandated prescription, a sense of well being and contentment (enhanced by a beer and bag of chips) as a guaranteed right to one and all.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:19 | 6843644 MSimon
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Your argument applies equally to alcohol. Ready to reinstate that Prohibition?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:59 | 6843724 mkkby
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Nope.  Fail.  You still don't have a choice because you do not have INFORMED CONSENT.

Whether pot is safe or not is still completely unknown.  You are GAMBLING with your long term health.  Maybe you'll be lucky and just get high and eat a little too much.   But maybe you'll become a burnout.  We all know burnouts, who obviously have life long brain dysfunction.

If the gov really cared about any of us, there would be research to understand the risks.  But all they really care about is money.  Money for prisons, the corps who run prisons, and now taxes on the weed economy.

Just like gambling was evil until gov's realized they could get a piece of the action.  Now there are numbers rackets (lotteries) and casinos everywhere you go.  Money makes it suddenly not so evil.

So we go from imprisoning people to telling them to experiment on their brains.  Not much better.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 11:52 | 6842552 -.-
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"My concern is the impact of almost overnight revisions of law that can have direct and devastating effects on people's lives."

Ditto, OldWood.

I never wanted my marijuana to assume a similar tract towards a legal market such as tobacco and ethyl alcohol. Furthermore, there is no more of an excuse to allow it to necessarily assume such a path unless it is an overtly capitalist and political agenda prevailing in forwarding itself due to a duped electorate with a poor education in history (which is not anyone's direct fault, necessarily).

I do not want the Marlboro Man to fuck with my flower and herb. Ever since I was being asked by others regarding legalization of marijuana by states (I'm in Texas), I've stuck my comment: I want my drugs to be illegal.

 

That is not to intentfully impress or depress people; it is because one has to undertand the definition (which includes history) of what it is to be a legal, publicly traded good in today's markets. I'd rather go to jail (and I have been, three times) for drug charges knowing that Time will Reveal itself. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:24 | 6842198 GMadScientist
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And often does an alcoholic claim to be a 'recreational drinker'. "I'm recreating right now, your honor."

Maybe you have no idea who is or isn't so you don't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to professionalism eh?

Stop trying to be Judge Judy and estimate people's worth by their productivity and skills alone. The world doesn't need another ill-informed nanny.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:21 | 6842191 GMadScientist
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Your links aren't bad enough? You have to do bad impressions of a D.A.R.E program for 5 year olds?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 12:50 | 6842801 dirty belly
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Yes, I exercise the legal right to use marijuana here in Oregon.

Before, when I was in college, I smoked after school.  I was the only one to get an A on the final for my 'Statics and Strength of Materials for Architecture and Building Construction' class.

I also made the college presidents list, and vice presidents list.

I interned at the same college, and was a direct hire from an intern to complete a project that had never been brought to such a high level.

To this day, my work is still in use at the college, which involves peoples safety.

As a musician as well, I raised over $7000.00 for the campus longhouse project for indigenous people that attend the college.

All the while, I used marijuana.

My driving record is SPOTLESS.

I do not use alcoholic beverages in any form.

I do not use tobacco products.

With all due respect, how can you be so wrong?

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:21 | 6843491 Oldwood
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I have never had an accident while driving drunk. I have drank myself into a stupor on many occasions in my younger years, drove my car blind drunk to the point I did not remember doing so, all without harm to anyone.

Alcohol is perfectly harmless.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 13:17 | 6842908 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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I am a shaman, and far from being 'long gone'.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:24 | 6841592 SixIsNinE
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 your reflections may be accurate but they must be understood within a context of ILLEGAL under penalties of lockup, yes, even in California.  Drug head DEA let their snitchies sniff out and setup and frameup all over the place... yes in California ... the helicopter raids ....

So many like SoulGlow forget how DYNAMIC the changes are when the plant you are holding is liable to land you in jail/prison, or whether that plant is a regular something like that bottle of wine in your kitchen. 

That's how DUMBED DOWN the populace is, precisely because of the prohibition laws. 

Yes, that's why I am leading the charge to put the DEA on receivership because of their gross miscarriage of their duty.  As the KingPins of Controlling Consciousness, their failure is beyond even our failure to put men on the Moon !

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:18 | 6841587 SixIsNinE
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the key is people's freedom to grow the plants.  That certainly includes the Poppy plant. 

Enabling monopolies is the antithesis of what Zero's are about,  Can I get an Amen, Brother & Sista Zeros ? !

Until we mend the broken link between humanity and nature we will continue to see this "shitshow" of psychopathic players on the Devil's Chessboard. 

Farming & Cultivating took a back seat, over the last 150 years ... but that wave has crested and if we return to allowing humans to do what we do naturally, which is to grow and care for mother nature's goodness, God's plants, then we can prevent the Dystopian Nightmare Police State ...

repeal the CSA (controlled substances act)  ... put the DEA on receivership and start WISE-ING UP instead of DUMB-ING DOWN.  

Clowntard comment from  Ob1knob shows that he is in a juvenile state of consciousness and has probably never had his little world shaken up ... has trouble connecting more than 2 dots together ...  good news, there are UPGrades to consciousness, and they come from plants and psychedelic chemistry.

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 04:19 | 6841649 SixIsNinE
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Right on Rusty - coca leaves are another natural wonder plant.

Anytime you concentrate into some highpotency derivative, from caffeine powder, to heroin powder, to cocaine powder ... you will have problems with the intensity. 

The locals in S.A. the 100+ year olds, will almost always have been lifelong coca chewers ...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:46 | 6842066 Ignorance is bliss
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I use to live in La Paz. The Coca plant was sold as tea. Helped a lot with altitude induced headaches. Very helpful plant. If I recall the cocoa plant is legal even in the U.S.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 07:41 | 6841822 2500saturdays
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I had to login to give you a greeny. Thanks man.

Fuck Ya , amen Bro.

It's a weed that anyone should be allowed to grow without fear of the beat stick of big gov.

No shit here. BSC chem , rec use university, mrs 2500 mets breast cancer, rick simpson oil for 12 months, NED on last CT scan from medical oncologist. These + results were achieved with NO convo patent medicine chemo like taxotare, pertazumabe, herceptin etc and NO convo radiation. I am not selling it, you can't, but the mrs and I are living it.

There is more to the THC/CBD + 100's of other terpines than getting high .  most need to edumacate themselves. on this plant.

The Jack Herer story. A good place to start down the hole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUEdytQ6FHc

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:37 | 6841604 A Nanny Moose
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...and prohibition fixes this, how?

Please solve the rsultant mafia wars, and police State violence against these "criminals" who, by definition, simply dis-ofucking-bey the goddamed law anyway.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:15 | 6842169 GMadScientist
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The fact that you don't know how many stoners there are working productively in society is a big hint as to how clueless you truly are.

Your logic applies more so to alcohol and tobacco, and yet I don't see you and the other Women of the League of Temperance making a comeback.

Take your ignorant misconceptions and shove them in the space formerly consumed by the braincells you've obviously destroyed.

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 12:37 | 6842750 dirty belly
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Here is a thought for you.

You call marijuana a drug.

If so,

then you make contact with the pharmaceutical company,

that you know of,

that produces marijuana,

and simply ask them to to stop the manufacture of

marijuana.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:15 | 6841088 jaxville
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  Legal grow ops are really expensive considering the compliance issues.  Illegal ones can be done for cheaper using a rental property and stealing juice (water and electricity). 

  From what I hear, the price of high quality "legal" weed is pretty much the same as what it was during prohibition. 

    Boy, I can hardly wait until the big corporations move in and fix that. 

 

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:32 | 6841601 SixIsNinE
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they grow just as easily as a tomato plant ... and gets people back in touch with LIFE and the process of seed germination into a flowering plant ... get your hands in some dirt folks, it's good for you

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:38 | 6842245 GMadScientist
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And gives you some measure of control over what you smoke. Club weed is so GMO-tweaked for high-THC content that you may as well eat a damn spacecake.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 08:56 | 6841926 The best Sun
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Even un-mosantoed the THC levels in modern Mary Jane can lead to psychotic episodes and suicidal impulses in long term heavy users.

No withdrawal necessary but withdrawal definitely makes it worse.

I mean, it won't fuck you up like high dose zoloft or some of the other SSRI's, but you won't be much fun to be around.

My view is this is just another anchor being attached to the American people by TPTB.

By all means use it, but don't abuse it.

Cool mon.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:40 | 6842249 GMadScientist
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I'll take cranky for a couple days over permanent receptor site damage 10/10

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 11:59 | 6842579 Dinero D. Profit
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Yesterday, for example, I was rejoicing. Tranquility was the name of the game.  Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt.

I was out airing the dogs down at the gorge.  We always find something to enjoy. The dogs acted like contending with rapids, chutes, and whirlpools was hilarious and I had a couple of cold ones, plus a brownie. These are home-made brownies and the brownies I bake, no kidding, are so strong they could cure cancer when ingested.

 

Herb keeps the birds off the antenna. It keeps my frequency clear. It liberates the consciousness. It stimulates wide thoughts with much feeling.

 

I get a hoist in emotions, always. Sometimes, I get these far off wandering thoughts.  I dwell on great and worthy things. Yes, great and worthy things. Take my word for it.  

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 12:41 | 6842770 Demdere
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This says cannabis is just a plant, and plants can be raised cheaply. 10 cents / joint cheap.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/08/14/prepare-for-big-weed/

This puts the cannabis breeder's progress in perspective with other crops.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/05/16/civilizations-great-counte...

And this is social effects of good thinking about drugs and guns.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/a-modern-approach-to-secur...

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:02 | 6841044 pitz
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I just can't see the traditional medical establishment rolling over and accepting it.  Nor can I see the doctors writing prescriptions like, "smoke 2 smishers daily for pain" that are to be fulfilled from not-so-reliable sources.  Just watch, the lobbyists will figure out some way of putting the 'business' in the hands of the big boys instead of the small businesses that currently dominate the marihuana scene.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:08 | 6841065 Sanity Bear
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that's what Marinol and its like are about

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:34 | 6841603 SixIsNinE
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ok Zeros, listen up - :) h/t good ol' Bangalore Equipoise !

here is what advertising the God's Goodness Wonderplant looks like in a state where it's legal :

 

THEROOSTER.COM 

it's NOT a secret anymore why this state's Tourism is BOOMING - 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 08:27 | 6841879 bunnyswanson
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Your worry should be clinics run by individuals who bleed in Mexican supply, sell it and bring down the price from ample supply.  I quit smoking for 2 years and during those 2 years, while working in a medical facility which drug tested, I was dagnosed with breast cancer which had been inadvertently overlooked 1 year prior.  I quit and returned to self employment and began my voyage into cancer treatment.  My familiarity with terminology allowed me to come up with my own treatment plan which was not what the physicians had in mind.  Hence, I had to delay care for 4 months while getting 2nd and 3rd opinions, sending my slides to genetic lab in San Franciso and John Hopkins.  During this time, I was giving additional MRI scans and mammograms and to everyone's shock, my tumor was shrinking.  My cells were "nearly indolent."

Blow pot smoke into a spider as it is building its web, and the result is haywire.  Come back next day, and you will see the spider has come to his senses, and the web has been repaired where before, bridges were missing or collapsed.  Studies have been performed.  Cancer cells require nourishment and in their search for glucose, the introduction of a component of THC interferes with it's ability to effectively accomplish this, the cells starve rather than turn necrotic, become weak and less aggressive. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:05 | 6842131 Buster Cherry
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In cases such as you descibe, its a good thing.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:44 | 6842267 bunnyswanson
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Yep.   I saw $ in oncologist's eyes where iris should have been.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 11:43 | 6842515 sleigher
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"I just can't see the traditional medical establishment rolling over and accepting it."

 

No probably not.  But if the fucking nanny state life controllers had just legalized the shit in the 60's, or never made it illegal in the first place, the medical community would have had 50+ years to develop alternative ways of admistration that isn't smoking fucking blunts.  They would have isolated the CBD's into medicine that actually cures cancer.  Oh fuck no...  can't have that.  American Cancer Society rakes in a billion per year.  Fuck The Cure!!!  Cancer for everyone.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:04 | 6841051 jaxville
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  I gotta wonder about how much cannabis is still sold under the table in legal states.  Tax free and unreported. Makes me think about the credibility of this article.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:06 | 6841057 NoWayJose
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I read a cannabis article one day, but the next day I couldn't remember it, so I had to read it again...

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:06 | 6841060 RaceToTheBottom
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After reading this article, I needed to eat a few bags of chips......

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:06 | 6841061 A Lunatic
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Governments get more tax revenue, voting base get stupider. What's not to like.......?

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:36 | 6841151 nmewn
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I-Can't-Stand-It.

Dumbest fuckers on the planet, I swear..."Look! We won!!!"

They win state cronies getting richer off of them, they win...a friggin tax stamp. At least "back in the day" heads were smart enough to think at least two steps ahead, these stupid youtz today don't even know what happened yesterday.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:43 | 6842256 GMadScientist
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Amongst our weapons are such diverse elements as: bread, circuses, mind-numbing plants.

Just look forward to episodes of something that resembles the Dukes of Hazzard crossed with Half-Baked about "wild growin' rebels".

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 02:26 | 6841523 Killdo
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'voting base get stupider'. 

 I have been observing several good friends who smoke dope regulary and I have noticed they definitely are getting dumber. Oneo of them is convinced things that never happened actually did happen etc. I rmember once sitting outside with 3 of them smoking (and inhaling their smoke by accident) - the next day I caught myself re-reading a small paragraph without understanding anything (over 45 min or so). 

But I was told by a son of a relative who died of cancer that the canabis oil actually helped extend and improve the quality of his life for about 3 months (this happened in serbia and they only found out about the benefits of that oil recently  - and they had to buy it in Holland)

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 02:36 | 6841545 FIAT CON
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You accidentally inhaled second hand smoke and you believe it affected you this way!!!

I think not...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 05:35 | 6841734 Killdo
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I was sitting next to my friends for hours (outside) and there were 3 of them smoking continuously. 

I normally learn very fast  - and the next day I coudl not even remember or comrehand one paragraph. That's the only explanation I coudl come up with - never happened before or since.

Plus I noticed long ago most of my (formerly quite intelligent friends) who smoke Marijuana very often forget things - and it's getting worse. 

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 08:09 | 6841850 bunnyswanson
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Mind altering substances enhance what is already there.  It is called 420 because 4:20 not before 4:20 is the time to get high.  Addictive personalities, those trying to fill a hole in their psyche from a Identity Crisis that never ended or abuse or those calming a storm within them with the strength of a hurricane turn to any drug within reach to anesthetize the pain. 

Bad behavior got you down?  Let's take a look at the elite class.  Fine scotch and Bourbon, martini at noon, golf and a 24 pack of ice cold beer.  I have seen a banker's wife so drunk, while walking down a street in Carmel, she collapsed in the bushes where she lay, regurgitating the fine cuisine she had ingested an hour before at dinner, her husband off trying to seal a deal with a drunk and incoherent client. Affairs.  Kids gone wrong.  Bills.  Bills.  Bills.  Lies.  Cheating.  Two sets of books.

Pot smokers are overwhelmed by the marked increase in their sensory perception.  Forgetting small details due to smells, sensations, thoughts, focus on finer details, and a state of relaxation that in 2 hours will be completely gone.

Over the 40 years I have smoked pot, the only thing I worry about is the tar which is quite thick if one notices pipes need cleaned.  But newer product is more concentrated and less is needed.  It takes us to another dimension which is a healthy break from the rat race our society has placed us in.  A fashion show.  Popularity contest.  Children's playground mentality of bullies are in offices everywhere.  There is nothing good to be said about what the Planning Commission has conjured up for human beings.  Thank god for weed.  Smoke a peace pipe with someone and maybe find a new friend or in the very least, if your friends are of a high caliber, curious and aware of the Popsicle stand called our life, an insightful conversation.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:11 | 6841964 FrankDrakman
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"the only thing I worry about is the tar which is quite thick if one notices pipes need cleaned. "

We moved to one of the new vapers. Much less tar inhaled because the plant material doesn't burn. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:46 | 6842065 bunnyswanson
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It's time I do this.  Will visit a vapor store soon and see how this is done.  Thank you. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 12:51 | 6842805 Demdere
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"Volcano" is expensive, but close to perfect.  The bongs with 3 layers of air bubbling through water are good, also.  If I can figure how to bubble the Volcano's output through a bong, very perfect.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:59 | 6842110 Buster Cherry
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Thanks.

Thats been my observation as well.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:38 | 6841610 SixIsNinE
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all of my folk's friend's church-going folk here in Colorado are non-cannabis users, but imbibe the fluoride daily ... still says it's good for the teeth ...  we've been sprayed the F*(*( out this year, and i'll even point up in the sky at a criss-cross of the spray above us ... they've just been dumbed down so far that it makes no thought Lightbulb light up ... 

sure wish they would take advantage of the herbalgoodness at the multitude of shops around ... maybe they could brighten up just a tad ...

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:07 | 6841063 Yen Cross
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 POT is the least of our worries.

 I'm moar worried about the "boob faced" early puberty basement babies, that are afraid of sunlight.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:55 | 6842097 Buster Cherry
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I can agree with that.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 12:54 | 6842814 Demdere
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Our son's friends smoke and vap a lot of weed.  They play games and sit for long hours in front of the computer.  All have jobs, go to school, hard working people and very active.

Cannabis is a good excuse for doing little, but it does not over-run a person's base nature, it merely turns the dial a bit to the pleasurable side of life.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:14 | 6841082 Blue Dog
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Potheads become lazy apathetic losers who don't about anything or anyone except getting high. The worst people I know are potheads. It deadens the conscience. Now else do you abuse your wife, neglect your kids, and still feel good about yourself?

The socieital costs of increased consumption will greatly outway the alleged benefits.

 

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:27 | 6841124 Pie rre
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I imagine it is more related to the company you keep.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 01:27 | 6841437 Stainless Steel Rat
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The democrats need to kick out every last blue dog.  Y'all embody every last anti-libertarian quality of the Dems.  Anyway, what do you about?  You don't even enough about it to say the word.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 04:31 | 6841662 SixIsNinE
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i upvoted you even though some of those blue dogs might just be holding in their toke a little longer than they should've ...hence the desire for some to kick them out ...

but don't ask me... i'm not sure what a dem bluedog is anyway...

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:47 | 6842273 GMadScientist
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Blue dogs are the 'less liberal' wing of the Dems (from say, Nebraska) that are socially and fiscally conservative, but against laissez-faire enough to not be outright Republican.

They formed a powerful caucus in congress for a very long time.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:27 | 6841125 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Most potheads can form complete sentences, and they can spell too because they tend to be educated as opposed to those that cannot form a coherent thought when they write, or attempt to write, as in your particular case, you lazy and cognitively challenged one.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:48 | 6841193 toady
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Thank you. Saved me the effort. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 00:30 | 6841307 Beowulf55
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Maybe you should do a little research before you blow BS.  Go watch:

The Union: The Business Behind Getting High (2007)
Thu, 11/26/2015 - 00:53 | 6841368 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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I have been researching pot & hash for 40 years, BuckO.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 04:38 | 6841669 SixIsNinE
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Master Researcher, yes, we are certainly suffering from a dearth of hash for sampling comparisons purposes...i'm talking real Turk/Afghani hashish .... where are we supposed to come up with real scientific conclusions without bonafide genuine hassshiishshish.....

MUST get AFGHANISTAN into the NWO ASAP in order to compete with the Dutch & California/Colorado Growers Crown.

ProTip - Brotherhood of Eternal Love book is in REPRINT and available online now -  that's the California Turned-ON Brotherhood that began a Diplomatic Mission to Afghanistan in order to establish a trading partnership that had NIXON F*(*((*ed it up would have PREVENTED the entire Pentagram DEathcult shitshow that has been Afghanistan ever since then ... (1973) ....

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 12:57 | 6842827 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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In CANADA we have a 'dearth of hash' conundrum too. I often read reports of arrests in Montreal where the fuzzzz gets hash on their drug busts, but we rarely see any of that hash here in Ontario. Like you, and many others, I think we need to do something about this hash dearth before it gets out of hand.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:53 | 6842301 GMadScientist
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"We have to be very thorough about this."

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:32 | 6843521 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Just watched _The Union: The Business Behind Getting High (2007), Beowulf55. My brother gave it to me to watch back in 2008, but I forgot that I had watched it, and did not know the title. Thanks for making me watch it again with a tad different perspective this time.

Right now I can only ruminate on how much I truly despise Ronald Reagan, and the neoconservative movement. cheers, eh.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:48 | 6842279 GMadScientist
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It's ironic that not being loud, obnoxious, or crashing cars into things, has made potheads confusable with young people experimenting with pot.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 00:15 | 6841223 Albertarocks
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Not a single word of what you said is true.  I shall pray for you, for it seems you are stupid.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:17 | 6841584 Buster Cherry
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Ive smoked a lot of.pot in my younger, stupider years, and my bought and.paid for.experience.sez: Say a prayer for yourself genius.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:40 | 6841613 Albertarocks
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Haha.  So did I.  And my life is 'still' going awesome.  So I'm not sure what your problem is, what caused your troubles, but I'm certain you do.  Perhaps you did a lot more than smoke pot? 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 05:34 | 6841722 FIAT CON
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Pot is not the cause of your shitty life ...You are?

 It seems that everyone that smokes pot is painted with the same brush... They will be nothing but a loser!!!!

 So I Guess that everyone that drinks alcohol with also become a jobless lazy loser as well!

 Hmmm Some do  small percentage but not all!!!!

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:19 | 6841985 Refuse-Resist
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Exactly. The most common statement "I knew this guy who smoked weed, and all he did was sit on the couch..."

  • Ok. I knew this lady who went to church, and all she did was say Obama was the antichrist, run around telling everyone they're going to hell -- batshit crazy, so we should keep church illegal"
  • I knew this one guy that drank alcohol, and the sonofabitch couldn't keep his dick out of landwhales or his car out of the ditch. Fucking booze turns good men into pig fucking incoherent assholes with no inhibitions who can't drive. Why is it legal again?"

The above twostatements are taking the most common argument against cannabis, and applying it to other commonly used substances in America (FUCKYEAH).

It's all about the individual. A piece of shit is going to be a piece of shit no matter what he or she imbibes.   Almost every pot smoker I've known as an adult has been productive, hard working and successful. But the common element here is that because it's illegal, they don't advertise.  The 'stoners' you see are no count fucks that would be no count whether they smoked weed or not.  Weed doesn't cause people to be no count lazy fucks. That just comes naturally.

The fact is that cannabis is the  most benign intoxicant there is.  It doesn't cause delusions like alcohol, cocaine, and opiods, or erratic behavior on withdrawal like booze, benzos, opiates, or tobacco. There is no toxic dose.  I read it would take a human to smoke 1500 lbs of weed in one setting to get enough THC to be fatal.  In other words, the only way you can be killed by weed is if a dumptruck full spills on you and you suffocate.

Regarding this so called 'decriminaliztion':  I call bullshit on that. in NC, the cops are constantly sniffing around for MJ. If you have less than an ounce, you get a 'ticket'. That ticket includes a ~$1000 fine, a year of probation, mandatory AA meetings, piss testing, and costs.  If you get caugth with paraphanelia (with weed or without), it is a much worse 'crime' than posession of the weed itself. Even a pack of rolling papers, if found with weed, is considered paraphanelia.

Decriminalized my ass. When there are no more drug sniffing dogs, checkpoints, and helicopter backyard searches, then and only then will I call it 'decriminalized'. IE NOT A FUCKING CRIME!

If you don't like weed, don't smoke it.  I don't like booze, opiates, or benzos, so I don't fucking take them. I also dont' like what church does to many otherwise normal people (talk about delusional) so I don't go there ever.

Now, if you want to do those things, then go for it. I don't care.  I don't need a law against things I don't like. You do whatever the fuck you want.

That said, GET THE FUCK OFF MY LAWN!  Get out of my car, get out of my wallet, and most importantly get the FUCK OUT of my garden and mind your own goddamn business.

The first order of business upon collapse of the USGOV should be the rounding up and deporting of all statist motherfuckers who cannot mind their own business and wish to control others, not through their own direct action, but through the action of the state and its badgethugs.

 

 

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:23 | 6841994 Horseless Headsman
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+100 Dude. I'm right there with ya.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:50 | 6842288 GMadScientist
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Preach on...metaphorically speaking, of course.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:40 | 6842049 Buster Cherry
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I never called anyone here.a.loser.because they smoke pot. I just shared my personal experience.with it and.observations of how Ive seen it affect others. Nothing shiity about my life. Im doing quite.well.

Now I observe by your comment that it obviously turned you into an asshole.

Asshole!

Now, having said that, I would be in favor of legalizing it only for the.reason of keep young people's lives from being ruined by being busted for it.

 

And your are still an asshole.....

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:51 | 6842292 GMadScientist
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Did he mention you're an asshole?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:19 | 6841987 Horseless Headsman
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It's good to have an excuse.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:37 | 6842236 Vendetta
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God doesn't bother saving the willfully ignorant, not sure your prayers will be a useful allocation of your time but it was a kind thought.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 00:24 | 6841296 WillyGroper
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Women's Christian Temperance Union?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 02:21 | 6841522 FIAT CON
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I'm so happy all of the people that don't smoke pot know everything about it!!!!

 Compared to the guy's that have smoked it for 40 years.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 07:59 | 6841837 Blackfox
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Oh the fucking irony....

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:23 | 6841993 bunnyswanson
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Utter nonsense.  We destroying the future for the kids and unlike when we were 16, they have nothing but the tab to pay.  And if you take away weed, you will see alcoholics come out of the woodwork of every structure in society.  Which would you prefer.  Every known an alcholic?  I am someone who has literally smoked pot daily save for 4 years (jobs) since late teens.  I hve been to half the world, many times traveling alone, 12 cruise tours, have read the History of Civilization for enjoyment reading and have accomplished a reputation of respect for my activism on line locally.  People I know who do not smoke pot are strangers to themselves and that state of paranoia is actually an highly acute state of anxiety from a sense of insecurity, because they cannot trust their thoughts to take them to a place that isn't insanity ridden.  The unexplored mind.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:59 | 6842109 Agstacker
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Yea, it's a damn good thing drunks don't act that way.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:18 | 6842179 garcam123
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You are an uneducated, stupid jerk

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:51 | 6842294 ljag
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As a smoker for over 40 yrs, it is quite obvious which posters are "pot heads" and which aren't. Take this 'blue dog' moron for instance. Wouldn't know a good bag of weed from a pile of leaves. My neighbor got his Illinois card and ran up to Quincy the 1st day it became available. Imagine his surprise when he noticed the average price was around$400 oz. The black market will NEVER go away.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:23 | 6841084 OregonGrown
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I have been thinking about the "future of cannabis" for a long time ago.    I own www.MarijuanaShare.com www.MarijuanaShares.com www.MarijuanaETF.com www.MarijuanaETFs.com and www.MarijuanaFund.com www.MarijuanaFunds.com .... just to name a few.  Any astute investors / fund manager wanting to get in on the ground floor of "marijuana funds",  lets talk.  You can email me directly at dennis@cannaking.com 

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:16 | 6841092 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Dope can get countries through times of no money better than
money can get countries through times of no dope!

Freewheeling Franklin Part Deux: The Taxman Tunes In, Turns On, and Drops Out Of Blackmarket Recreational Drugs to eliminate Underworld Crime from taking market share.

Cha-ching!

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:40 | 6841165 Proofreder
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A Friend with Weed

is a Friend Indeed

Give me Librium or give me Meth.  LSD, DMT, STP, MDA, FBI, CIA, oops ...

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:58 | 6841220 Albertarocks
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You bet, and the USA is fortunate to have two of the best weed growing nations on earth as neighbors.  Mexico to the south and Cannabis to the north.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:02 | 6841572 Buster Cherry
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Ah, the Furry Freak Brothers!

 

I can remember way back when.... they were actually funny.

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:19 | 6841573 Buster Cherry
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Duplicate. Sorry

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 08:15 | 6841864 RabbitChow
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Flashback?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:30 | 6842014 Buster Cherry
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Uncooperative andriod phone.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 03:05 | 6841574 Buster Cherry
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Ah, the Furry Freak Brothers!

 

I can remember way back when.... they were actually funny.

 

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:22 | 6841104 VWAndy
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Hemp

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:27 | 6841122 adr
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Just more fuel for the Wall Street gambling fire.

Do we really need publicly traded marijuana growers and sellers?

Does everything have to enrich a select few for doing nothing other than taking bets?

Fuck Wall Street and everything it touches.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:43 | 6841166 Skateboarder
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WS: "If it has any good in it, we will financialize, speculate, and destroy it."

Something that should grow freely in abundance for all... we disrespect our mother.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:44 | 6841185 Yen Cross
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 I love your sarchasm. Well done Skateboarder.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 01:06 | 6841404 Skateboarder
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In such times, when good feels bereft,
Jest and sarcasm is all we have left.

The little (or big) things in life - making another smile and laugh, the joy of giving without expecting returns... - they are greater than any material wealth.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:42 | 6841176 Yen Cross
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 plus one ,adr.

 They'll be looking for new cannon fodder

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:43 | 6841181 Niall Of The Ni...
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Look. I've already had to endure a hot-dog stand vendor boasting about his medical marijuana "investment" instead of shutting up and giving me the fucking bratwurst I had paid for 15 minutes previously. 

That alone tells me legal pot is a scam and anybody "investing" a cent in it will lose it all, and deserves to.

The function of the "public" pot firms is to take the money of gullible investors and put it in the scammers' pockets. None will ever pay a dividend.

Pot legalization is a pipe dream. Back on planet earth, any extra tax revenue from legal pot would never  make up for the revenue lost due to fewer asset forfeitures of not-poor-enough proles picked up on trumped-up drug charges---never mind the payoffs from organized crime that goes right into politicians' and policemen's pockets. Not gonna happen.

Wed, 11/25/2015 - 23:54 | 6841210 DontFollowMyAdv...
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i'd rather they make all psychoactive drugs legal and tax the crap out of them. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 02:53 | 6841557 Buster Cherry
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Great avatar....

Illustrates your genius.to a tee.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 00:03 | 6841228 Basia
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How to control the masses 

 

China=opium

USA=marijuana

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 00:14 | 6841273 onmail1
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<--- satan America is destroying body, mind & soul of humankind

The darkangels sitting in US congress have unleased the blackest evil of drug legalisation.

What drugs do to you , especially cannabis, hash, grass, marijuana:

Neo : every beginning has an end ,

after the pleasure ends , the nervous system responds with fright & impending danger.

A frightened person (with arms) would then act violently, then caught, go to jail (& get a$$ raped) 

drugs imperil education, your children becomes junkies & homeless

(or president like HomObamma hah ha)

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:22 | 6842193 Skiprrrdog
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I tried reading your post both straight and then stoned, and it made no sense either way. What a wonderful country we live in where even morons have a forum to gush and spout nonsense that no one else understands...reminds me of the old man standing on his lawn, shaking his fist and railing at mother nature for weather he does not like. I think you need to smoke some pot...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 00:22 | 6841291 fishwharf
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Never thought I'd live to see this.  I first smoked pot in San Francisco in the 1960s, and I still enjoy it to this day, although now I vape liquid concentrate.  It's legal where I live and the relief of not having to worry about prison for using pot is immense.  Fifty years of pot smoking was not without its problems.  I have no doubt I lost jobs, promotions, girlfriends and lung capacity because of it.  That said, I'm living a comfortable retirement and while I'd be bragging if I listed my accomplishments, there is one that's germane to the subject being discussed.

While in the army in 1969 I bought a guitar and Mel Bay's lesson book #1.  I haven't stopped playing since and after 46 years I'm starting to get the hang of it.  For years I would unwind after work by smoking some pot and playing guitar for 20 - 30 minutes.  If I hadn't smoked pot, few of those thousands of sessions would have happened.  I completely lose myself in the music, usually not playing anything in particular, just playing.  The pleasure I get from that far outweighs any career hiccups I may have suffered because of cannabis.  I credit my guitar playing ability to pot making the practicing interesting.  While I may be a delusional stoner, I'm probably a better guitar player than you.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 00:51 | 6841365 Basia
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sounds like a boring self centered life

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:19 | 6842182 Skiprrrdog
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Why, because *you* are not in it?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:44 | 6842265 Vendetta
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usually guitar players practice so they may entertain others, not to entertain themselves... so the whole 'self-centered' comment is off base.  Perhaps you're thinking of rap 'music' whereby the 'musicians' don't know how to play any instrument because it is hard work that takes time and lots of practice.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 01:12 | 6841413 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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I'm a drummer, but I play guitar too, and I have to agree with you on getting buzzed before playing an instrument.
My favorite drummer of all time was Gene Krupa, and he was the first pothead drummer that ever was IMHO.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:18 | 6842181 Skiprrrdog
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Same here.. playing drums since I was 13. And while being stoned is not a prerequisite to playing, the two combined are a pretty powerful combination.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 02:49 | 6841555 Buster Cherry
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You bought a guitar in 1969. But by your own testimony it took you 46 years to get the hang of.it.

 

46 years????

Did the pot.you.smoked.enhance your.ability to aquire your musical talent so quickly?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 11:05 | 6842346 bunnyswanson
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Have you ever taken a few hits off a bowl, put head phones on and then went to gym or for a run? Beat of a drum, or cord of a bass, scream of a lead guitar touch a place in our souls which is why I believe natives should dance to the beat of a drum, our heart beat, it is meant for us to do.  Music is very important to human, today's must does not reflect situation on ground and young people are going back to the old stuff - it is thrilling to see.  Even tinnitus will not stop me.  If you are happy, without issues, why judge others who want to be happy too.  You will never appreciate their plight from the distance between you and them and it is mean.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 05:12 | 6841701 FIAT CON
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I applaud you... I too have spent many a hours playing guitar after MJ.... What a wonder place you go to.....

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:41 | 6842051 Free Spirit
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In my opinion You should be paid damages by the federal state for their unethical harassments due to Your cannabis smoking.  The people behind the cannabis prohibition should be charged legally for the way they prohibited cannabis. THEY should be put in jail and the keys to their cells should be thrown away.  

Do You realize how much damage to peoples health has been made due to their unethical incarcerations ?  Many millions of people has DIED through the years as a consequence of the international prohibition of cannabis

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:51 | 6842289 Vendetta
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Ummm. .... fyi you don't need to smoke pot to make guitar practice interesting.  When you practice to the point of playing "Mr Crowley" lead parts note for note easily, it is reward in and of itself and fun.  After that, everything else is quite easy to play and practice becomes 'what song do I want to know how to play today or this week'

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:04 | 6843295 fishwharf
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You are correct Vendetta.  You don't need to smoke pot to make practice interesting, it was just what worked for me.  I had to look up "Mr Crowley."  I'm not an Ozzy Orbourne fan.  Chet Atkins is my hero.

Fri, 11/27/2015 - 00:02 | 6844545 onmail1
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Everyone is looking for happiness

but alas most ppl try to find it in materialism

drugs == height of materialism == You try to squeeze every bit of happiness from your brain 

And in this process become more enslaved to mateial world

And I pity on all of you who enjoy drugs ; after few decades of life , you are gonna become ghosts for at least a thousand years w/o a material body , searching for happiness but finding despair only.

--------------

Whats the Alternative:

There is exists another kind of happiness which is already hidden within you, but it needs spiritual awakening which in turn requires high morality & mind training  leading to trance

This happiness is the greatest of all , you all are missing the great opportunity which exists in humankind

Awake & arise while there is yet time 

dont be a ghost

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 00:29 | 6841306 mijev
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Colorado's way of saying "high."

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 01:03 | 6841399 Dragon HAwk
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It's not the grass i worry about it's the little white powder they spray on it..

  wake me when the cops can tell the difference between treated and untreated Pot...

That's Why they Call it Dope Kid..

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 05:20 | 6841714 FIAT CON
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Most Pot is not sprayed with anything 98%....

Are you afraid to leave your house... to walk across the street...

 This again is one of the reasons to legalize it. It can be grown by yourself where it is safely grown for consumption!

Look at the tobacco industry and what chemicals they artificially put into the tobacco....Lawfully!!!!

Don't think that if big Corps and Uncle sam get involved it will be safer.

 Pot is easy to grow hence the word weed....

 I just wish Non educated and the fearful could open their minds a little bit... just a bit...

 Kids sitting in a basement watching tv with a little herb don't cause problems and fights like kids out on the street with some alcohol do!!!

 Protect your children let them stay home and have some herb.... maybe it would help bring the family some understanding.....

 

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:33 | 6842020 bunnyswanson
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The new generation of pot growers do not need  to treat weed.  Maui Wowie from the 70s was not treated and it did what today's pot does.   The fertilizers they use, the lights, temperature control, all precision based, clones from the best results.  There are 50 flavors in the stores, Granddaddy Kush, Purple Kush  Platinum, Train Wreck, Girl Scout Cookies.  Remarkable job really. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:13 | 6842162 Skiprrrdog
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And pot growing is getting pretty high tech. There is one company (in england, I think) that re-purposes shipping containers into stand alone pot grow rooms, with everything already wired/plumbed in. If legal pot takes off, these are the types of enterprises investors should be looking at, not growers specifically...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:30 | 6842217 bunnyswanson
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It could be the new economy on local level.  It is not the easiest thing to grow, and I have tried 3 times at least.  Six plants tops.  Cloning was easy part. My one  Best crop was grown outdoors (4).  Spider mites are a constant fear.  Mold s well.  If auto timed lights go off at wrong time for more than a certain period, the plant will halt it's cycle and the plants I grew never recovered.  Honestly, I gave up but not before I spent several hundred dollars in equipment and products.  This design you speak of is something I would try.  I have seen variations on Ytube videos. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 01:06 | 6841405 Demdere
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https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/08/14/prepare-for-big-weed/

Investing in cannabis may be OK for a while, but it is a weed, you can grow it for probably $1/pound of quality bud.

However, other investment opportunities will follow :

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/a-modern-approach-to-secur...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 10:10 | 6842151 Skiprrrdog
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Seems like  a pretty shortsighted viewpoint. They say that during the gold rush days the people who were making the real money were not the miners, but the people who sold the picks and shovels to the miners. With pot I do not think that will be any different. And a dollar a pound for quality bud? Dont know what you are smoking...but I think you need to smoke more of it...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 11:05 | 6842343 ljag
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$1 a pound, huh?

Is it like that silver you can mine for $5 a ton?

You obviously have never grown ANYTHING!

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 01:15 | 6841421 Magnum
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What about Russia? ZH better have a spin on this that makes them look pretty good on weed too.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 01:57 | 6841488 Yen Cross
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 Pot is harmless, with-in reason

My buddy get's some shit that makes me staggar around the yaard occasionally.

 We call it Yetti. [Big Foot]

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 02:41 | 6841546 Buster Cherry
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With due respect, I disagree...

Pot makes.you temporarily retarded, kills motivation and ambition.

I would not like my staff being stoned at work as nothing would be completed.

I would not like to have jobs worked, with a stoned factor involved, and what I mean by that is time taken to.correct.errors and omissions caused by stoned.workers forgetting an importanf detail in a task or.process.

The accumulation of.these little effects can add to millions and excellence.in anything goes by the wayside. That and the shit lingers in the body for.a.long time, so just because you got stoned Friday after work doesnt mean you're clear and.alert Saturday morning.

More like 45 days.after.that Friday bong session....

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 05:28 | 6841695 FIAT CON
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Pot does not make you temporarily retarded!

It may kill motivation and ambition in some people but not others!

Some jobs get produced faster and much more accurate with MJ than without!

 People can be forgetful under any circumstances. Have you ever forgotten anything? You must have smoked within 45 days. Correct?

 Pot tends to make people more in tune with themselves at that present time?

If you are hungry you will eat. If you are tired you may sleep, You may also get a pick me up and work a lot harder and faster than without weed.You may really be able to focus on what you are concentrating on at that time.

 Now if you are a lazy person and just want to lay around, How does pot make you just lay around?

 We are not all the same, my ex Had a son that just sat around all the time... He did not do anydrugs.... Maybe it was 45 day old second hand smoke? lol

Pot may put a smile on your face and make you much more relaxing to be around!

All people react different at different times.

 Most Non smokers are uneducated about weed and rush to fear of it!  

 The most comon verbal BS that comes out of Uneducated people about MJ is within the moral of the story to the movie "The breakfast club". A very important lesson can be learned from that movie.

Do you know what the moral of the movie is? This Phenonomen is clearly visable from NON Smokers!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 08:10 | 6841856 I AM SULLY
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Most of the successful software engineers I've met (like 9/10) smoke weed occassionally - half on a daily basis.

(hate to break it to you - but this WWW thing? - mostly brought to you by pot smokers)

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:11 | 6841963 Horseless Headsman
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Yeah, it can make you seem uninspired to your boss if your job sucks and you hate it. However, it can focus you like a laser and energize you like a bunny if you're doing something interesting and enjoyable. Lesson here is don't get a job in the widget factory. BTW, caffine and nicotine are the perfect drugs for mind-numbing drudgery, which is why they're legal

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 09:33 | 6842018 FrankDrakman
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With all due respect -- nice strawmen. 

No one here is advocating that people show up for work high. I'm a programmer, and I wouldn't. So all your whining about jobs not being done properly, etc. is BS. If you're so concerned, talk to your employees about it. I'll bet you'll be surprised to find out how many are smoking presently.

And if it kills ambition, why am I working one job full time, and taking on a second part time one? (my GF makes a ton of money, I could just stay home, get high, and be a house-hubby, but I'm also a man, and I wouldn't do that.) 

And just because pot resides in your body fat for days doesn't mean it's affecting your mind. 

got anything else, Buster? Sure, there will be some people who abuse pot. There are people who abuse alcohol too, usually to far greater societal detriment. We learned from Prohibition that preventing the misdeeds of a few by denying the majority something they want is a surefire recipe for corruption. Ten years ago, I was reading about US planes spraying the opium poppies in A-stan. They were going to eradicate the crop. Then, suddenly, not. And now smack is cheaper on the streets of NY and LA than it ever was before. I don't know who's behind it (CIA? just some very well-connected crooks? I can't say). 

The booze business isn't 'corrupt' now, is it? Busch and Coors don't put LSD in their beer? Smirnoff doesn't put meth in its vodka? I'm not aware of Diageo making big political contributions to ensure that home-brew beer and wine stores are put out of business.

Seriously, you might consider reading some more, and treating other people like adults, instead of children you wish/need to control. 

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