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Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President
Russia's Sergey Lavrov is not one foreign minister known to mince his words. Just earlier today, 24 hours after a Russian plane was brought down by the country whose president three years ago said "a short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack", had this to say: "We have serious doubts this was an unintended incident and believe this is a planned provocation" by Turkey.
But even that was tame compared to what Lavrov said to his Turkish counterparty Mevlut Cavusoglu earlier today during a phone call between the two (Lavrov who was supposed to travel to Turkey has since canceled such plans).
As Sputnik transcribes, according to a press release from Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Lavrov pointed out that, "by shooting down a Russian plane on a counter-terrorist mission of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria, and one that did not violate Turkey’s airspace, the Turkish government has in effect sided with ISIS."
It was in this context when Lavrov added that "Turkey’s actions appear premeditated, planned, and undertaken with a specific objective."
More importantly, Lavrov pointed to Turkey’s role in the propping up the terror network through the oil trade. Per the Russian statement:
"The Russian Minister reminded his counterpart about Turkey’s involvement in the ISIS’ illegal trade in oil, which is transported via the area where the Russian plane was shot down, and about the terrorist infrastructure, arms and munitions depots and control centers that are also located there."
Others reaffirmed Lavrov's stance, such as retired French General Dominique Trinquand, who said that "Turkey is either not fighting ISIL at all or very little, and does not interfere with different types of smuggling that takes place on its border, be it oil, phosphate, cotton or people," he said.
The reason we find this line of questioning fascinating is that just last week in the aftermath of the French terror attack but long before the Turkish downing of the Russian jet, we wrote about "The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking" in which we asked who is the one "breaching every known law of funding terrorism when buying ISIS crude, almost certainly with the tacit approval by various "western alliance" governments, and why is it that these governments have allowed said middleman to continue funding ISIS for as long as it has?"
Precisely one week later, in even more tragic circumstances, suddenly everyone is asking this question.
And while we patiently dig to find who the on and offshore "commodity trading" middleman are, who cart away ISIS oil to European and other international markets in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars, one name keeps popping up as the primary culprit of regional demand for the Islamic State's "terrorist oil" - that of Turkish president Recep Erdogan's son: Bilal Erdogan.
His very brief bio:
Necmettin Bilal Erdogan, commonly known as Bilal Erdogan (born 23 April 1980) is the third child of Recep Tayyip Erdo?an, the current President of Turkey.
After graduating from Kartal Imam Hatip High School in 1999, Bilal Erdogan moved to the US for undergraduate education. He also earned a Masters Degree in John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in 2004. After graduation, he served in the World Bank as intern for a while. He returned Turkey in 2006 and started to his business life. Bilal Erdogan is one of the three equal shareholders of "BMZ Group Denizcilik ", a marine transportation corporation.
Here is a recent picture of Bilal, shown in a photo from a Turkish 2014 article, which "asked why his ships are now in Syria":
In the next few days, we will present a full breakdown of Bilal's various business ventures, starting with his BMZ Group which is the name implicated most often in the smuggling of illegal Iraqi and Islamic State through to the western supply chain, but for now here is a brief, if very disturbing snapshot, of both father and son Erdogan by F. William Engdahl, one which should make everyone ask whether the son of Turkey's president (and thus, the father) is the silent mastermind who has been responsible for converting millions of barrels of Syrian Oil into hundreds of millions of dollars of Islamic State revenue.
By F. William Engdahl, posted originally in New Eastern Outlook:
Erdogan's Dirth Dangerous ISIS Games
More and more details are coming to light revealing that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, variously known as ISIS, IS or Daesh, is being fed and kept alive by Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish President and by his Turkish intelligence service, including MIT, the Turkish CIA. Turkey, as a result of Erdogan’s pursuit of what some call a Neo-Ottoman Empire fantasies that stretch all the way to China, Syria and Iraq, threatens not only to destroy Turkey but much of the Middle East if he continues on his present path.
In October 2014 US Vice President Joe Biden told a Harvard gathering that Erdogan’s regime was backing ISIS with “hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of tons of weapons…” Biden later apologized clearly for tactical reasons to get Erdo?an’s permission to use Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base for airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, but the dimensions of Erdogan’s backing for ISIS since revealed is far, far more than Biden hinted.
ISIS militants were trained by US, Israeli and now it emerges, by Turkish special forces at secret bases in Konya Province inside the Turkish border to Syria, over the past three years. Erdo?an’s involvement in ISIS goes much deeper. At a time when Washington, Saudi Arabia and even Qatar appear to have cut off their support for ISIS, they remaining amazingly durable. The reason appears to be the scale of the backing from Erdo?an and his fellow neo-Ottoman Sunni Islam Prime Minister, Ahmet Davuto?lu.
Nice Family Business
The prime source of money feeding ISIS these days is sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields where they maintain a stronghold. The son of Erdogan it seems is the man who makes the export sales of ISIS-controlled oil possible.
Bilal Erdo?an owns several maritime companies. He has allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. The Turkish government buys Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi seized oil wells. Bilal Erdogan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers.
Gürsel Tekin vice-president of the Turkish Republican Peoples’ Party, CHP, declared in a recent Turkish media interview, “President Erdogan claims that according to international transportation conventions there is no legal infraction concerning Bilal’s illicit activities and his son is doing an ordinary business with the registered Japanese companies, but in fact Bilal Erdo?an is up to his neck in complicity with terrorism, but as long as his father holds office he will be immune from any judicial prosecution.” Tekin adds that Bilal’s maritime company doing the oil trades for ISIS, BMZ Ltd, is “a family business and president Erdogan’s close relatives hold shares in BMZ and they misused public funds and took illicit loans from Turkish banks.”
In addition to son Bilal’s illegal and lucrative oil trading for ISIS, Sümeyye Erdogan, the daughter of the Turkish President apparently runs a secret hospital camp inside Turkey just over the Syrian border where Turkish army trucks daily being in scores of wounded ISIS Jihadists to be patched up and sent back to wage the bloody Jihad in Syria, according to the testimony of a nurse who was recruited to work there until it was discovered she was a member of the Alawite branch of Islam, the same as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad who Erdogan seems hell-bent on toppling.
Turkish citizen Ramazan Bagol, captured this month by Kurdish People’s Defence Units,YPG, as he attempted to join ISIS from Konya province, told his captors that said he was sent to ISIS by the ‘Ismailia Sect,’ a strict Turkish Islam sect reported to be tied to Recep Erdogan. Baol said the sect recruits members and provides logistic support to the radical Islamist organization. He added that the Sect gives jihad training in neighborhoods of Konya and sends those trained here to join ISIS gangs in Syria.
According to French geopolitical analyst, Thierry Meyssan, Recep Erdogan “organised the pillage of Syria, dismantled all the factories in Aleppo, the economic capital, and stole the machine-tools. Similarly, he organised the theft of archeological treasures and set up an international market in Antioch…with the help of General Benoît Puga, Chief of Staff for the Elysée, he organised a false-flag operation intended to provoke the launching of a war by the Atlantic Alliance – the chemical bombing of la Ghoutta in Damascus, in August 2013. “
Meyssan claims that the Syria strategy of Erdo?an was initially secretly developed in coordination with former French Foreign Minister Alain Juppé and Erdogan’s then Foreign Minister Ahmet Davuto?lu, in 2011, after Juppe won a hesitant Erdogan to the idea of supporting the attack on traditional Turkish ally Syria in return for a promise of French support for Turkish membership in the EU. France later backed out, leaving Erdogan to continue the Syrian bloodbath largely on his own using ISIS.
Gen. John R. Allen, an opponent of Obama’s Iran peace strategy, now US diplomatic envoy coordinating the coalition against the Islamic State, exceeded his authorized role after meeting with Erdogan and “promised to create a "no-fly zone" ninety miles wide, over Syrian territory, along the whole border with Turkey, supposedly intended to help Syrian refugees fleeing from their government, but in reality to apply the "Juppé-Wright plan". The Turkish Prime Minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, revealed US support for the project on the TV channel A Haber by launching a bombing raid against the PKK.” Meyssan adds.
There are never winners in war and Erdogan’s war against Syria’s Assad demonstrates that in bold. Turkey and the world deserve better. Ahmet Davutoglu’s famous “Zero Problems With Neighbors” foreign policy has been turned into massive problems with all neighbors due to the foolish ambitions of Erdogan and his gang.
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The reason people have not talked about Turkey is because they tend to end up dead from accidents and suicides while passing through that country.
The reason people have not talked about Turkey is because they tend to end up dead from accidents and suicides while passing through that country.
Yes, tragically, yes they do.
Press TV’s correspondent in Turkey, Serena Shim, has been killed in a suspicious car accident near the Turkey-Syria border.
Shim was killed on Sunday as she was on a working mission in Turkey to cover the ongoing war in the strategic Syrian town of Kobani.
She was going back to her hotel from a report scene in the city of Suruç in Turkey's Urfa Province when their car collided with a heavy vehicle. The identity and whereabouts of the truck driver remain unknown.
Shim, an American citizen of Lebanese origin, covered reports for Press TV in Lebanon, Iraq, and Ukraine.
On Friday, she told Press TV that the Turkish intelligence agency had accused her of spying probably due to some of the stories she has covered about Turkey’s stance on the ISIL terrorists in Kobani and its surroundings, adding that she feared being arrested.
Shim said she was among the few journalists obtaining stories of militants infiltrating into Syria through the Turkish border, adding that she had received images from militants crossing the Turkish border into Syria in World Food Organization and other NGOs’ trucks.
Shim flatly rejected accusations against her, saying she was “surprised” at this accusation “because I have nothing to hide and I have never done anything aside my job.”
Kobani and its surroundings have been under attack since mid-September, with the ISIL militants capturing dozens of nearby Kurdish villages.
Turkey has been accused of backing ISIL militants in Syria.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/10/19/382854/press-tv-reporter-in-tur...
Before Serena Shim:
Her name was Giuseppina Pasqualino, also known as Pippa Bacca
NATO or no NATO this motherfucker has his days numbered and his father too. If it's the last thing Putin does it will be his hand around their throats and most of the world would be complicit in that pleasure.
Assad doesn't need to go. Erdogan does.
That's not good enough.
Ah... let's gawk from afar?
The spectator sport eventually comes to an end,
and it becomes time to protect soveriegnty and the original idea.
At what point does neglect of such things become "complicit in that pleasure?"
And you think Syria is an inferno...NATO needs to rein in their rabid dog. Now.
If they don't, then we all know who dispatched him
Funny, with all that's going on we were worried about a ground invasion of Syria by Russia, Iran, or the US... and Turkey just pretty much opens themselves up to the same players and probably can count on a good chunk of Europe to be pissed at them, too.
The theater of operations is growing rapidly.
Having studied Biblical Hebrew for many years I can tell you absolutely his name means
Baal = daemon power
El = God
"The evil one is God"
Perfect
Well of course Turkey sides with ISIS. Many of the ISIS fighters come across the border into Syria from Turkey, where they have been trained. Turkey is on board with the US and the rest of NATO. I suppose we have no choice but wait and see what the US pulls to get rid of Assad now. It won't be pretty.
Erdogan has a raging hard-on for the multiple gas pipelines from Libya, Egypt, Israel, and Qatar that will provide tens of bilions of dollars in revenues in transit fees. Of course Turkey will do whatever it takes to ensure that Assad falls as it is literally costing Turkey billions of dollars every month that Assad is in power. None of what I have read about Turkey supporting ISIS surprises me in the slightest knowing what Turkey is losing.
raging hard-on
Damn, forgot about those ten years ago...they did have a lot of power at the time.
Got a dent in my chin to prove it.
Everyone thirty and below, there actually IS wisdom from age. Most of what I've learned is to wait.
When there's evil shit going on, eventually it will feed on itself. At present there are thousands of dumbfuck moosies that appear to be overwhelming. But thier internal schisms will soon have them tossing each other off of high buildings over Man Thursday and other isues.
However, I suggest you check me against actual real wise old guys.
(Last time I got a dent in my chin was when Dad loaned me his splint. He, at 80, had a hot, new 72 year old wife, who's a screamer. After initial failures in using it, he suggested having the wife inflate the lower ring. Works like a charm, but looks like Forest Gumps braces. Wife seemed to appreciate it though. Six months later the old SOB demanded it back!)
Too much detail!
Deal with it, bitch.
I'm fully aware that old people sex is gross to younger people.
I laugh at you.
Putin's position is clear: if the US does not see anything except the option to get rid of Assad, Putin will be forced to get rid of the United States.
Appears corruption and scumbaggery runs in the family, much like the Bushes, Clintons, and Obamas.
But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever.
Yep Mo Green was a jew. Never side with them if you're goy.
ISIS militants were trained by US, Israeli & Turkish special forces at secret bases in Konya Province inside the Turkish border
Busted !
Meet the Prophet er Profit motivated Terrorist.
No no no no...what they heard was the Prophet said.
Shit storm ensued.
Most probably couldn't read the word profit to start with, Fuck them, interest is banned by they're epileptic, stuttering, pedophile prophet, who lived prior to ANY written arabic language (other than Jew) and every word of the Koran, Haddith and Surra is all word of mouth. Which kind of explains why the 'Supreme Word of God' is a disjointed, illogical, murderous, and mentally retarded spew of artificiality, second only to the bullshit of the mormons.
Plus, makes all the sens as to why NATO immediately bought off on the Rooskie fighter shoot-down even though via the NATO documents, it technically puts NATO in a HOT war with Russia aside from the Hot Proxy wars...
Oh my....
REQUIRED READING: Tells it like it really is
http://turoks.net/Cabana/PoohGoesApeshit.php
So the French bomb Syria. Pretty clever if ya ask me.
So everybody has decided to beat the crap out of everybody else and they chose Syria as the playing field.
God help us, for we are incapable of helping ourselves.
Amazing those who speak of saving the Earth. Mankind is doomed to engineer his very own extinction.
I made a few crucial decisions a long time ago.
The nearest active military base is 45 miles from here, and I'm talking about Fort Irwin, Twentynine Palms, China Lake, Edwards...Norton, George AFB were closed in the early 90's, Dagget is basically a recycling center...So, I'm in an area that's too unimportant to bother with.
However, as the ashes of LA, the Inland Empire and the remains of Riverside County start to drift down, our normally prevailing winds will blow south. Unless it's winter, then it blows wherever the fuck it wants.
I'm less than a days walk from where I grew up. I know where there's water in the middle of the desert, and I checked myself with my step brother about four months ago. It's still there, in spite of the drought. (Another note: When you're a kid, hang out with ancient old fucks...they may actually know shit you never even had a clue about)
The first 'everybody' is actually a very small number of people, probably related by birth (kings around time of WW I for example). SOme go along for the money, some because of 'duty'.
Syria is going to become a desolate place. Damascus will be turned to rubble and the eastern regions will be mostly uninhabited.
Isaiah 17: 1-2
...Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid...
Isaiah lived during the 8th century BC.
Looks like it is going to happen within our lifetimes.
This reminds me. I wonder if anyone was able to follow the trail of that plumber's pickup truck from Texas that wound up in ISIS hands. To whit, I wonder how deep the rabbit hole goes. Qatar and Saudi Arabia keep their powder dry and foil stolen Iraqi and Syria oil to crush Russia's income. The US obliges, using Turkey as the conveyor whilst letting Ergodan wet his beak. Japan recieves massive amounts of discount oil for the low low price of buying US Treasuries. States of the world are so corrupt and scandalous, that it's very easy to make any off-the-cuff conspiricy sound plausible. How very sad for us all.
Erdogan = TurkBush.
Now here's some TurkBush.
<-- TurkBush
<-- TurkISIS
This U.S. Army film describes Turkey's history, economy, urban areas, industry, and its role in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUEEPN9gWc
All that Ataturk sowed, Erdogan has ripped up by the roots.
And the ground bleeds.
Ataturks legacy destroyed for this bastards personal ambitions. Turkey could have evolved erdogan is dragging it back to an islamic hellhole. +1
Erdogan is merely Zion's Ataturk 2.0
NATO and current standing M.F's must know that Russia is not bluffing, or Putin would never had gone in to syria, neither is Iran, this is about freedom, international diplomacy and respect, baby!!
The day I will be laughing and die doing so, will be the day that Iran's oil and gas gets ditributed to Europe through Russian pipelines passing through Syria. I am sucidal and I want to die soon, so go Vlad continue fucking them up.
Nice thought. I will drink to that.
You're not the same HopefulCynic from The Long View, are you?
Oh brother! Talk about classic conflict of interest! Nonetheless, totally jives what I and others have been saying... terrorists are government mercenaries.
BTW, what's that phrase? Something like "turnaround is fair play"?
Well, Russia, Syria, Iran and every other ally of the Syria government who was invited or welcome into Syria can now shoot down every airplane, vehicle, person from every uninvited nation... including USSA, NATO, Turkey, etc.
And if they open their mouth to complain... just play what they previous said about the Russian plane being 1km inside Turkey for 17 seconds!
What a bunch of slime is the USSA, NATO, EU and allies.
Every playa in this is slime. I like Putin's style better, but they are all competing and using their militaries to make a buck and block the other one from making the buck first.
Never mind who dies to get it done.
We might be bigger slime, I'll give you that, but do not be mistaken, everyone involved is slime.
Giant game of RISK being played out on the face of earth.
Thats pretty much how I see it.
I see it more differentiated: Russia is fighting for its economic survival. Everyone else is in it to make more billions than they are making now.
Yeah, okay. The US is totally solvent, is that what youre saying....lol.
for fuck sake. it's not one, or the other, government that is the enemy of the people. it's the government as an institution per se that's the enemy to everyone. you think some of them are friendly because your goals align? wake up!
^This. But I would go further - Russia is fighting for its very existence.
The psychotic megalomaniacal Anglo-Zionist hegemon wishes to rule the world. Totally. Who is standing in their way? Pretty obvious what this is all about wouldn't you say?
I think this is pretty much true. The neocons have essentially decided "we shall rule the entire planet, or nuke it to death trying".
And in the end, I suspect what this comes down to is whether the world continues to accept the fiat, fake, fraud, fiction, fantasy, fractional-reserve debt-note bits called "federal reserve notes"... OR NOT.
As long as the USSA (and to a lesser extent NATO and EU) can create unlimited quantities of their fiat, fake, fraud, fiction, fantasy, fractional-reserve computer bits and others accept them for physical goods and goodies, the neocons will continue endless predatory behavior.
The reason should be obvious... they can tap the keyboard to generate fiat, then buy up anything and everything they wish on world markets (oil, food, metals, minerals, finished products... you name it). And so, they can crush anyone who does not have the ability to buy real goods and goodies in unlimited quantities without effort.
How can anyone in this position be stopped? They can't.
And so, the only question is... can this be stopped?
The answer is yes, but will require bold moves by China and Russia. Perhaps they know this. Perhaps they've been loading up on gold to prepare themselves to release a fully redeemable international "gold-gram currency" backed by real, physical gold.
And simultaneously dump all their US debt, and buy and take delivery of physical gold with every penny of the proceeds.
And simultaneously demand payment in gold for all products they export in the future.
That would do the trick.
The question is... are they that bold?
But the fact is... if they don't... they have no chance.
Lesson: get real or be destroyed by fiat peddlers.
So Russia is funding terrorists around the globe for profits too? Give me a f*** break!!! Liar!!
Yet ask any regular American to point out Kamchatka on the globe and they'd look at you as an alien...such a place doesn't exist.
any wonder why america wants assad out?? so they and their robber baron gang along with the stoneage turks can loot syria and sell stolen oil. america the cunthole nothing more nothing less along with their jewfucks debils.
Edrogan. Obama's great friend and ally. Why?
Islam has Man Thursdays. I won't go into the details, but it's real.
Obama is a catcher, Edrogan is a pitcher, won't go into the details.
We have psychopaths in our War Criminal Government.
<-- Shabbos Goy
<-- Man Thursday
(A false dichotomy as it is possible to be both, but WTH)
Just like Bidens son who sits CEO of the energy company in Ukraine after the Nuland Coupe de Ta in Kieve. Placing the PorkyShankoff in power, as well as, Yanokovich as another US hegemony bitch.
All of these separate regime change overs paint a huge picture of state sponsored NGO's aka terrorist. If you see something-say something. LOL
His name is ERDOGAS!
spread the word. very few people know about this. if ZH can bring this into the light it will be a major exclusive.
In Iraq, the Iraqi government has been trying to keep OUT Turkish companies and individuals as the Parliment is aware of what is going on.
What exclusive? The bulk of the text is a posting by F. William Engdahl from last August.
This information should have gone viral in August. A lot of deaths and much suffering could have been avoided.
All the same: Spread the word. Please.
And this will be reported by the MSM in 3-2-1.....uhhh NEVER!
If these claims are even close to being true - it can't be long before the ZH Web site gets destroyed by 'unknown hackers'. That should be obvious.
Meet Bilbo Baggins, the 21st Century Hobbit
I don't know Putin/Others are sitting on a plethora of information which if exposed would shake the foundations of civil society. it's knowing when to hold em . . . . Maybe he got on the phone to Barry and said , listen you little C---sucker , admit publicly that the POS erDOGan was Out of Order or we'll publish , this this and this . . . .
He must have the JUICE on 9/11.
Published by who? Any Russian source would be discredited. The Western press suppresses information willingly or literally at gunpoint. And even if published, the public in which country will take to the streets? If 9/11 was officially announced as an act by Saudi Arabia, Mossad, etc. do you honestly believe anything would change? Your choice as a nobody is to vote for Hillary or Cruz (Trump will do a JFK head if he gets too far).
Its not a question of what one can allege. Its a question of what can be proved. And if you can prove something, you are in danger of being killed. Simple as that.
Ain't that the truth. Has Solzhenitsyn's 200 Years Together made it into English yet? Didn't think so.
So this is who Hunter Biden aspires to be with Burisma in Ukraine, Everyone needs a hero.
It sure seems we be gettin played from every angle. Just saying 17 seconds is a tight window?
Trust noone!
I see this all the time in mycountry, sons of politicians in bed with the narcos. They launder their proceeds with the CIA and also play sicarios when they want to have fun. You see them at the VIP sections in nightclubs spending 10K or 15K a night, with whores and corrupt young women at their sides also with all of those ass licking lazy faggots wanting a piece of the action. Thank you you fucking Gringos for all of your shit I hope you choke on it one day soon.
Wesley Clark calling Recep out on the mat as well: http://www.infowars.com/former-nato-commander-turkey-is-supporting-isis/
Turkey will get its regime change soon enough.
Turkey will be bombed back to the Stone Age at the right time, leaving poor defenseless Israel as the only possible exit route for oil / gas to the Mediterranean. Then, miracles or miracles, the price of oil / gas will rebound to 'normal' (highly profitiable) levels.
Was the US involved in this illegal dealing with a declared terrorist group?
No, definitely not, no one can say that Us will deal with a declared terroritst group. No way.
Wait, if the US does not issue sanctions left and right against Turkey, then actions speak louder than words....we will have to acertain the possibilities that, maybe, just maybe, US is guilty as alleged?????????????
Russia is doing all the heavy work against ISIS - US sanctions
Turkey is doing a lot of the heavy work for ISIS - no US sanctions.
Odd, no?
Best thing that ever came out of Harvard was an empty bus.....
What is BO's cut?
This is kinda like state run piracy back in the days.
What do you mean "back in the days"? Those days are still here. Only the actors have changed. The US is full of this corruption. Bill and Hillary ring any bells?
So this is the real cause of escalation
The turk family mafia headed by erDOGan is the beneficiary of the blood money from criminal oil trade with terrorists ISIS , & thats why Free syrian Army & Al nusra are supported by Turkey (Nato, America )
It all about money honey
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Another one :
erDOGan installs his son-in-law as the Energy Minister
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wait , you all , abrahmic religions
it is your fate to fight each other & destroy each other
'The dead shall rise from the graves (petroleum & gas)
then there will be judgement day , qayamat' ( nuclear war due to oil & gas)
If he was truly duplicitous, he'd also own the Freightliner tanker franchise, the Toyota Hilux franchise etc.
Ultimate irony would be for Bilal Erdogan to have his head hacked off by ISIS on Youtube.
Maybe some Russian special forces dressed as ISIS.
TOTALLY YES YES YES!
I always knew there was something fucked up about Turkey.
Maybe Russia will be sinking a few oil tankers belonging to this guy.
So France;s floatila is going to there to defend their financial interests in isis just to start a war w ith Russ ia or to establish the no-fly zone they promised. More Backstabbing to come!!!!! Watch out Russia for the Hollande/Nwo government comes!!!
What a totally fucked up world when the Russian leader Putin appears as the only real leader on the planet. Amazing shit.
Nobel Peace Prize for Obama - Warmonger and killer of Syrians extrordinaire.
Saudi Arabia Chair of UN Human Rights Council - expert at totrure and murdering and fomenting war throughout ME
What a joke.
Yeah. when assessing Putin's character - always remember what happened to Alexander Litvinenko in London. Anybody who gives orders - and those orders surely came from Putin - to put radioactive polonium in anothere man's tea ... that's not a nice person. A lot of Russians have quietly vacated their homeland. If you don't belong to the Putin clique with loyal obedience, don't stick around Moscow. Amazingly, Putin has taken the high position in the game of morality on the world stage .. hard to believe.
'The Phony Litvinenko Murder' William Dunkerley
'Litvinenko Murder Case Solved' William Dunkerley
The Litvinenko case has the same credibility as the MH17 case. Neither will be 'solved' so the AngloZionists can always resurrect them to be used by useless tools to illustrate how evil Putin is.
Putin, sole ISIS killer, totally evil dude. (/sarc)
The argument about Putin's character has no significance. Putin is Russia's problem, not ours. Whatever his character, he's proven to have the balls, the smarts and the resources to deal with western aggression.
any windows in your building?
"Giant game of RISK being played out on the face of earth."
Pretty much TRUE.
all the players are running their 'game plans' with their 'game faces' on ... like this is a big game of RISK. Nobody seems to believe there's a possible outcome where the board game gets knocked over, and everybody loses.
Wow. I must say. Thanks a lot for this informative article ZH. I always taught that Erdogans many evil plots and insane scemes was really bad , but all the things that are brought into light now are even worse than I imagined. It all makes sense now and it actually explains why Obama and the rest of the western world has done about nothing to stop ISIS and their many war crimes around the globe.
What Erdogan and his gangs of thugs are doing is plain out illegal and they should have been prosecuted and treated as ordinary criminals in the war criminal court in haag , but as the article tells us, also former France politicians and Obama has things to explain.
I am simply overwhelmed over how bad it all turns out to be in reality. It explains why the western world was so reluctant to welcome the Russians in their fighting against ISIS, they were afraid that all their little secrets and rotten plots probably would come out. Thanks to Russia, that’s exactly what has happened now.
There are absolutely no news about these things in my country, the mainstream media are only publishing the western political correct version of everything, and thus most people are probably still unaware of the real truth.
ISIS is responsible for terror attacks and the lifes of thousands of civilians all around the world. They are off course to blame and should be routed out. However. It is actually Erdogan and his thugs that are their real generals. It is Erdogan who has blood on his hands. It is Erdogan that should be wanted by the courts in Haag.
I am looking forward to read more about Erdogans son and the evil activities these people are involved in. Thank you ZH an keep up the good work.
Do you think what they are doing in Turkey is unique?
This is the way many governments role
THere is a long history of this
I am not sure that there are any with a clean nose
certainly not the favorite here, Russia
Ignorance of history can be fatal
and?
Turns out NATO is just the enforcer arm of the psychopaths in charge.
NATO are no more than paid Mercs...
Kings shilling or US dollar the principle is the same and needs disbanding like the UN.
both neither preserve peace or the good in humanity they only serve to be discrimnatory on who lives and who dies and on that concept there can never be a justified human response.
the Engdahl piece is over 3 months old.
Yes, it is over 3 months old.
Isn't it a shame that the Erdogans et al have not been outed in a major way before now?
WOW!
What a revolting development this is...
DA????
This guy is shaping up to be like another Uday Hussein, Saddam's son. Does he have any rape, torture or murder under his belt, like Uday, in addition to his alleged war crimes and terrorist activities? Do the Turks realize they're going to be ceding a portion of their country for the greater glorious mission of rebuilding The Levant if ISIS/ISIL/Israel (see below) succeed in Syria?
Here is an old quote from a Kurd on the alleged details of the ISIS operation. "Housed in Turkey, trained in Jordan, logistics by Pakistan, literature from Saudi Arabia, funding from Qatar and Saudi Arabia, on the ground day to day running by Israel, arms by the U.S., intelligence by the British, Germans and French and original arms for ISIS came from the Muslim Brotherhood helping them take it from Libya."
One big happy family isn't it. This seems very plausible and explains why they would all be so pissed off at what Russia has done. Again at the last press conference Hollande and Obama openly refused to cooperate with Russia. Obama again insisting that Russia work through his coalition and that Assad be removed.
I wonder how many U.S. citizens even realize they are
under a declared state of Nation Emergency due to that deadliest of threats to the U.S. known as Syria. What a fraudulent joke.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/05/06/notice-continuati...
Is anyone operating inside Syrian airspace yet actually doing so lawfully besides Russia? Or are lawful authority and international law now just more fraudulent misrepresentations and treated as a joke? Similar to how the global corporations fraudulently act as Countries and pretending that by being a Citizen you have freedoms that they protect.
I'm struggling to find any U.N. authorization for the lawful use of force inside Syria without the consent of the Syrian government. Not that the U.N. has that authority anyway. If anyone finds any please feel free to post it.
http://www.un.org/press/en/2015/sc12132.doc.htm
What the absolute-fuck is he talking about?
More jibberish from King Putt. He was handed a script to read
Frackin sweet assembly here man!
It's all starting to fit together! Between all the info and guts I've assembled in the past year on following the money and spy craft, you've just sealed and sewed this up for me.
This, all of this goes straight up the poop chute to the Bank of England and directly into the house of Zio-Israel who are pulling the puppet strings on all these countries of whom all of them from inside the US and her 160 DUAL FRACKIN CITIZENS in our Peoples Government.
I'd say it's time to start laying out arrest hit squads and start bringing all these fuckers in dead or alive who are materially connected. McCain, Hillary, hordes of them have hundreds of thousands of dead murdered blood on their hands. Time for some dammed hangings.
Impeach the President with an all Republican stacked deck and then we can legitimately bring in and start with the Sergeant of Arms in the US Senate, that office alone can arrest a sitting president following impeachment for treason.
Obama's crimes are absolutely provable for treason now. This arrogant fuck has hung his own ass. The evidence is now overwhelming how all this fits together.
And, if more fire power is needed to back him up, time to call in the Joint Chiefs of Staff and put a stop to all this before we get into a hot shooting war with a country that can wipe our asses ten ways to Sunday in a nuclear engagement.
Enough is enough, it's time to form the posse and start taking these maggots out!
Grrrrreeeaaat Post and thank you!
Hear the sound of Liberites Teeth... Clickit! hooh-rah - Semper Fi ~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YXLlBHtWSk
Benjamin Fulford Interview - "The Elites Secrecy Is Breaking!" - November 2015At the 11:10 mark, it is discussed how it is possible to sort of "fingerprint" oil, in that the exact chemical composition of different sources of oil can be detected. Therefore, it is quite possible to test to see who is buying what oil ... However, for the overall reasons discussed there, that information tends to be deliberately ignored.
Isn't Fulford fake? It all sounds like fairy tales, would not be suprised if the author was a teen age girl with a huge gift of imagination.
Yes, I agree, Bioscale, Ben Fulford seems to me to be unreasonably optimistic. I certainly do NOT think he is a "fake," although he seems slightly "flakey." But nevertheless, such an interview is still interesting enough to listen to ... although that follows what I regard as the standard pattern of relatively good, albeit superficial, analysis, followed by bogus "solutions," due to the original analysis having never been deep enough to approach how and why civilization necessarily operates according to the principles and methods of organized crime.
Fulford, and people like him, e.g., David Willcock, have been promising some kind of good military coup in the USA and elsewhere for almost a decade. However, so far, nothing like that has happened. Furthermore, that seems to me to be politically impossible to happen, other than after things get way worse, and then, any such military coup may happen, but not be good, and not make things any better.
ANYWAY,
The brief passage I referred to was about how it was certainly possible to KNOW where a barrel of oil came from, by accurate sampling of its unique chemical content. That means it is forensically possible to identify where the ISIS oil from Syria and Iraq was going. (Although, that information tends to be deliberately ignored, due to the paradoxes that the governments are the biggest criminals, controlled by the best organized criminals.)
MEANWHILE:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3334650/Russia-enters-diplomatic...
Of course, Turkey is DENYING the statements made in this Zero Hedge article, which were also similarly asserted by Russia ...
Turkey was always behind that, they will not fight in their lands....
"He [Bilal Erdogan] has allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. The Turkish government buys Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi seized oil wells. Bilal Erdo?an’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers."
When will Bilal's oil tankers see Russian bombs raining down on them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuy_5U8uaG0
Russians destroyed turkish convoy with a load for islamist
Because all these western countries have huge fucking ego bigger than their brains and dicks, they rather import oil illegally, immorally and cheap than dealing with Russia oil.
The ISIS-Turkey list :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-l-phillips/research-paper-isis-turke...
That's a good document.
It places Turkey up to its neck at the scene of the ISIS crime.
Turkey are actively involved in supporting ISIS: recruitment, training, financing, supplying weapons and other goods to ISIS. Recep Erdogan himself is in control and his son Bilal is handling ISIS stolen oil.
Similar to the type of underground plans Hitler was running against the Czechs so he could eventually overthrow their governemnt and take over, an old playbook.
It's all unraveling. When will the US participation be fully documented?
I suspect Putin may have the proof of US involvement but is waiting to use for optimum leverage
Dear Sir Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, the service you are doing to mankind revealing these criminals operations like Erdogan and his son illegal oil smuggling are something I had no idea was happening. Please keep bombing them into putrid ashes. Long live RUSSIA!!!!
US Sanctions Syria for buying oil from Islamic State...
https://in.news.yahoo.com/us-sanctions-syria-buying-oil-163505807.html.
Syrian uses Syrian oil - sanctions.
Turkey deals in Syiran oil stolen by ISIS - no sanctions.
You can bet on it they are also involved in smuggling people into Europe and make big money out of that.
Great to see Harvard alums all colluding together.
Putin do this please....
Drop the nuclear trigger to a lower level along the lines that a nuke maybe launched in retaliation at a lower level. Why?
1.) Plane gets shot down.
2.) Allow a low level commander to launch a first strike "single" nuke retaliatory act.
3.) Now Mr USA, wtf you gonna do?
That turkish city will be considered expendable for stupidity because escalation past that is mutual destruction and the USA, like NATO don't want that. This is no different to Hiroshima where you use a nuke to reduce future casualties. If anything this opportunity was missed but can be put in place and really turn the heat up. Everybody in for WW3? Does not have to be but you can still launch a nuclear response without the MAD consequence provided you are RIGHT!!!
Awesome.
Then the fuckers in this article no longer get away with it if anything their home country becomes a wasteland.
Or put another way. We think you're evil, not stupid.
Fucking Harvard. Of course he did. Where Harvard is the plantation, its students are the seeds of evil, and its graduates become Lucifer's minions.
Recruited by the CIA.
He's Alciaduh.
dont forget the wiretapped phonecall a few months ago from inside the erdogan call where erdogans son asked his sister/mother where to store 20 million dollares after every other hole already was stuffed with money..,..
its a ME-Denver Clan kind of story
We just need to saturate Turkish social media with this story and see how long before the government falls and the president and his family are strung up!
Questions were being asked by Turkish opposition party CHP 18 months ago... it's been smoke and mirrors since. The average Turk is exactly like the average American, Brit, Canadian, Australian etc. Sad, isn't it?
For what it's worth, he's partners in a company called Manta Denizcilik (Manta Marine) and the vessel in question (at the time) was a freighter called G. Inebolu.
The "Teletubbies Of Terror", the "Brotherhood Of Bozos": Bibi, Bongo & Bilal.
Now that's funny mate! Thanks for the snort!
...and as if that wasnt enough, the turkish ex interior minister said that the sarin gas used in syria and blamed on assad was a turkish spec-ops from inception to activation... and this was the premis for the west to bring down assad...
there have also been gas attacks within turkey and the gov blames the pkk, who would appear to be set up by false-flag, 'justifying' bombing raids on the pkk. [Could you imagine the uk bombing ireland for the ira ?].
Erdogan has lied repeatedly. Total duplicity.
Turkey needs to be addressed.
Erdogan is Obama's bestie.
Call Putin and have him send over a few of theose really sweet Russian FOAB's
Check this badboy out! BOOM!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJzASnmmxIM
I'd say that'll get their attention real fast as well as some well deserved payback for all those people being slaughtered from the false flag and set up!
This whole affair is really super ugly and frankly viciously evil. Definitely some payback is well deserved for Turkey and please Mr. Putin, put the stank on it!
Funny, was just speaking with a Greek friend, she said the Turks only exist to destroy the world.
Appears the Greeks are tired of their shit as well.
So much for the Cyprus reunification!
The USA still has Turkey's back according to the MSM:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-accuses-syria-of-purchasing-oil-from...
It's not the Turks it's those dang pesky Russkies.
The oil is stolen from Syria to begin with.
Hahaha. Stupid article that 95% of americans will lap up
not quite, read the comments.
Arthur Jensen tells Howard how the world really works. (Network, 1976)
You have meddled with the primary forces of nature, Mr Beale, and I won't have it! Is that clear?
You think you merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tide and gravity. It is ecological balance.
You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no Third Worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems. One vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multi-varied, multi-national dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rands, rubles, pounds and shekels.
It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic, and sub-atomic and galactic structure of things today.
And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature. And you will atone.
Am I getting through to you, Mr Beale?
You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.
What do you think the Russians talk about in their Councils of State? Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, mini-max solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do.
We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bye-laws of of business. The world is a business, Mr Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime.
And our children will live, Mr Beale, to see that ... perfect ... world in which there is no war nor famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company for whom all men will work to serve a common profit. In which all men will hold a share of stock.
All necessities provided. All anxieties tranquilized. All boredom amused.
Great script written by Paddy Chayefsky.
But it's all true- unless we change it.
It's been tried. It's not stable. Entropy won't have it.
The Turks are also up to their neck in the sale of vital organs brought in from Syria by ISIS. Taken from the various people they murder. Makes big money apparently.
Proof?
Hey!
Go back and look for who received the first official phone call from the Gay Crusader as President.
It was... a Turk, I think...
"Hey, I want a caliphate....and EU money."
"Easy, friend. The alciaduh has a plan for you to make money from the comfort of your palace, using only one of your sons."
"The one I sent to Harvard?"
"Yeah. McCain will be over soon with the details."
"That old war-horse better have some good ideas."
"he will, he will. I gotta go, I gots to plan something in Libya."
"Peace be upon you."
"Peace be upon you, too."
Yep, nobody seems to remember or care that this corrupt cunt Erdogan was King Putt's first phone call when he was elected
My brother Bilal have a very funny retardation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qCqQizsvn8
To sum it up: Erdogan has put his family income above his country's interests since the math is simple - family pockets gain a fraction of the billions that will not be collected by the Turkish companies now due to "sanctions" imposed by Russia, this has already begun - no Russian tourists (that is about $3 billion/year), suspended construction contracts in Russia for Turkish companies, extra "inspections" on ALL Turkish goods (textiles, food) entering Russia etc...
You forgot Hillary
Late at night under an unknown sea...
"Oil tanker at 16000 meters, bearing 0180, capitan."
"Give me a firing solution, Mr Petrovsky. Sonar. Lavrov?"
"Ranging is good."
"Torpedo room, Mr Medvedev?"
"Aye, Capitan."
"Prepare two fish, tubes one and two."
"Da, Capitan."
"Firing solution, sir."
"Standby. Fire One."
"One fired."
"Fire Two."
"# Two fish fired."
........
"Lavrov?"
"Direct hit, Capitan. The tanker is breaking up."
"Good shooting, men! It's o-dark-30 upstairs. Nobody will know who sank this illegal load of oil.
Capitan to crew. You have just killed payday for the Daesh this week!"
(Cheers)
Merkel won't mind :-(
Merkel won't mind :-(
Navy SEALS need to be dispatched to rendition him to the nearest water-boarding facility. Then the world can find out what the commission split on the oil sale is.
I'd guess:
75% to Netendafuckingyahoo and his zio madmen.
15% to assorted ZIA and ZATO figureheads.
10% to Erdogay and his comrades.
Hey man don't send my brothers into that mess.
Let's see a light show! Have Putin send over a few dozen of these really sweet Russian FOAB's to the Erdogan clan!
BOOM!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJzASnmmxIM
Now that's cookin! Say 20 to 30 of these Russian FOAB's in one day, PROBLEM SOLVED!
Then us poor shleps can get on with our day and back to trading with real fundamentals again!