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Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President
Russia's Sergey Lavrov is not one foreign minister known to mince his words. Just earlier today, 24 hours after a Russian plane was brought down by the country whose president three years ago said "a short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack", had this to say: "We have serious doubts this was an unintended incident and believe this is a planned provocation" by Turkey.
But even that was tame compared to what Lavrov said to his Turkish counterparty Mevlut Cavusoglu earlier today during a phone call between the two (Lavrov who was supposed to travel to Turkey has since canceled such plans).
As Sputnik transcribes, according to a press release from Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Lavrov pointed out that, "by shooting down a Russian plane on a counter-terrorist mission of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria, and one that did not violate Turkey’s airspace, the Turkish government has in effect sided with ISIS."
It was in this context when Lavrov added that "Turkey’s actions appear premeditated, planned, and undertaken with a specific objective."
More importantly, Lavrov pointed to Turkey’s role in the propping up the terror network through the oil trade. Per the Russian statement:
"The Russian Minister reminded his counterpart about Turkey’s involvement in the ISIS’ illegal trade in oil, which is transported via the area where the Russian plane was shot down, and about the terrorist infrastructure, arms and munitions depots and control centers that are also located there."
Others reaffirmed Lavrov's stance, such as retired French General Dominique Trinquand, who said that "Turkey is either not fighting ISIL at all or very little, and does not interfere with different types of smuggling that takes place on its border, be it oil, phosphate, cotton or people," he said.
The reason we find this line of questioning fascinating is that just last week in the aftermath of the French terror attack but long before the Turkish downing of the Russian jet, we wrote about "The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking" in which we asked who is the one "breaching every known law of funding terrorism when buying ISIS crude, almost certainly with the tacit approval by various "western alliance" governments, and why is it that these governments have allowed said middleman to continue funding ISIS for as long as it has?"
Precisely one week later, in even more tragic circumstances, suddenly everyone is asking this question.
And while we patiently dig to find who the on and offshore "commodity trading" middleman are, who cart away ISIS oil to European and other international markets in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars, one name keeps popping up as the primary culprit of regional demand for the Islamic State's "terrorist oil" - that of Turkish president Recep Erdogan's son: Bilal Erdogan.
His very brief bio:
Necmettin Bilal Erdogan, commonly known as Bilal Erdogan (born 23 April 1980) is the third child of Recep Tayyip Erdo?an, the current President of Turkey.
After graduating from Kartal Imam Hatip High School in 1999, Bilal Erdogan moved to the US for undergraduate education. He also earned a Masters Degree in John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in 2004. After graduation, he served in the World Bank as intern for a while. He returned Turkey in 2006 and started to his business life. Bilal Erdogan is one of the three equal shareholders of "BMZ Group Denizcilik ", a marine transportation corporation.
Here is a recent picture of Bilal, shown in a photo from a Turkish 2014 article, which "asked why his ships are now in Syria":
In the next few days, we will present a full breakdown of Bilal's various business ventures, starting with his BMZ Group which is the name implicated most often in the smuggling of illegal Iraqi and Islamic State through to the western supply chain, but for now here is a brief, if very disturbing snapshot, of both father and son Erdogan by F. William Engdahl, one which should make everyone ask whether the son of Turkey's president (and thus, the father) is the silent mastermind who has been responsible for converting millions of barrels of Syrian Oil into hundreds of millions of dollars of Islamic State revenue.
By F. William Engdahl, posted originally in New Eastern Outlook:
Erdogan's Dirth Dangerous ISIS Games
More and more details are coming to light revealing that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, variously known as ISIS, IS or Daesh, is being fed and kept alive by Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish President and by his Turkish intelligence service, including MIT, the Turkish CIA. Turkey, as a result of Erdogan’s pursuit of what some call a Neo-Ottoman Empire fantasies that stretch all the way to China, Syria and Iraq, threatens not only to destroy Turkey but much of the Middle East if he continues on his present path.
In October 2014 US Vice President Joe Biden told a Harvard gathering that Erdogan’s regime was backing ISIS with “hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of tons of weapons…” Biden later apologized clearly for tactical reasons to get Erdo?an’s permission to use Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base for airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, but the dimensions of Erdogan’s backing for ISIS since revealed is far, far more than Biden hinted.
ISIS militants were trained by US, Israeli and now it emerges, by Turkish special forces at secret bases in Konya Province inside the Turkish border to Syria, over the past three years. Erdo?an’s involvement in ISIS goes much deeper. At a time when Washington, Saudi Arabia and even Qatar appear to have cut off their support for ISIS, they remaining amazingly durable. The reason appears to be the scale of the backing from Erdo?an and his fellow neo-Ottoman Sunni Islam Prime Minister, Ahmet Davuto?lu.
Nice Family Business
The prime source of money feeding ISIS these days is sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields where they maintain a stronghold. The son of Erdogan it seems is the man who makes the export sales of ISIS-controlled oil possible.
Bilal Erdo?an owns several maritime companies. He has allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. The Turkish government buys Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi seized oil wells. Bilal Erdogan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers.
Gürsel Tekin vice-president of the Turkish Republican Peoples’ Party, CHP, declared in a recent Turkish media interview, “President Erdogan claims that according to international transportation conventions there is no legal infraction concerning Bilal’s illicit activities and his son is doing an ordinary business with the registered Japanese companies, but in fact Bilal Erdo?an is up to his neck in complicity with terrorism, but as long as his father holds office he will be immune from any judicial prosecution.” Tekin adds that Bilal’s maritime company doing the oil trades for ISIS, BMZ Ltd, is “a family business and president Erdogan’s close relatives hold shares in BMZ and they misused public funds and took illicit loans from Turkish banks.”
In addition to son Bilal’s illegal and lucrative oil trading for ISIS, Sümeyye Erdogan, the daughter of the Turkish President apparently runs a secret hospital camp inside Turkey just over the Syrian border where Turkish army trucks daily being in scores of wounded ISIS Jihadists to be patched up and sent back to wage the bloody Jihad in Syria, according to the testimony of a nurse who was recruited to work there until it was discovered she was a member of the Alawite branch of Islam, the same as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad who Erdogan seems hell-bent on toppling.
Turkish citizen Ramazan Bagol, captured this month by Kurdish People’s Defence Units,YPG, as he attempted to join ISIS from Konya province, told his captors that said he was sent to ISIS by the ‘Ismailia Sect,’ a strict Turkish Islam sect reported to be tied to Recep Erdogan. Baol said the sect recruits members and provides logistic support to the radical Islamist organization. He added that the Sect gives jihad training in neighborhoods of Konya and sends those trained here to join ISIS gangs in Syria.
According to French geopolitical analyst, Thierry Meyssan, Recep Erdogan “organised the pillage of Syria, dismantled all the factories in Aleppo, the economic capital, and stole the machine-tools. Similarly, he organised the theft of archeological treasures and set up an international market in Antioch…with the help of General Benoît Puga, Chief of Staff for the Elysée, he organised a false-flag operation intended to provoke the launching of a war by the Atlantic Alliance – the chemical bombing of la Ghoutta in Damascus, in August 2013. “
Meyssan claims that the Syria strategy of Erdo?an was initially secretly developed in coordination with former French Foreign Minister Alain Juppé and Erdogan’s then Foreign Minister Ahmet Davuto?lu, in 2011, after Juppe won a hesitant Erdogan to the idea of supporting the attack on traditional Turkish ally Syria in return for a promise of French support for Turkish membership in the EU. France later backed out, leaving Erdogan to continue the Syrian bloodbath largely on his own using ISIS.
Gen. John R. Allen, an opponent of Obama’s Iran peace strategy, now US diplomatic envoy coordinating the coalition against the Islamic State, exceeded his authorized role after meeting with Erdogan and “promised to create a "no-fly zone" ninety miles wide, over Syrian territory, along the whole border with Turkey, supposedly intended to help Syrian refugees fleeing from their government, but in reality to apply the "Juppé-Wright plan". The Turkish Prime Minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, revealed US support for the project on the TV channel A Haber by launching a bombing raid against the PKK.” Meyssan adds.
There are never winners in war and Erdogan’s war against Syria’s Assad demonstrates that in bold. Turkey and the world deserve better. Ahmet Davutoglu’s famous “Zero Problems With Neighbors” foreign policy has been turned into massive problems with all neighbors due to the foolish ambitions of Erdogan and his gang.
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Are you serious? The article explicitly describes US participation n this racket. Do you forget the US sending weapons from Benghazi via Turkey to the terrorists?
Russia itself needs to bmb the wharfs in Beirut and elsewhere and demand western sanctions on Turkey. Then remove that 90 mile safe zone and obliterate every weapon inside it.
The article explicitly describes US participation n this racket...
How many and which dual-citizen (s)electees holding positions of power and wealth in these United States are there making decisions they believe the rest of us will be held to account for, do you think are to be found in Putin's little black book? I reside in the USA, pay taxes here, was born here and likely die here, but I feel no responsibility to what these people are doing in my name.
Our (s)election process allows me to at least enjoy that pleasure.
jmf.
Hey Putin...
Why not deliver a few of these to the Erdogan clan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJzASnmmxIM
Russian FOAB
Zero fallout, maximum attention getter!
I'd say if you're not willing to be so giving as to a FOAB, maybe do the world a favor and let the Erdogan's get acquainted with your Russian Mafia?
Polonium has such a nice ring to it!
Nothing says pain and suffering like Polonium! But then again, they do deserve to get what they've given and materially backing the US CIA who has become super evil, they should get what they deserve I feel.
Since ISIS = Israeli Secret Intelligence Service and the material fact that Obama, Clinton are who are absolutely the actual front end ofthe Benghazi arming and channeling of funds for ISIS, this FOAB woudl be a perfect way to say enough.
Considering this ISIS / ISIL is all sponsored by Zio-Israel as an op fronted by Soros and company from Brussels who serve their master Bank of England (owner), I say let this party get started. It's high time humanity start wiping out the real apparatus of control, the men of the banking world nad where ever they are spare no nations border.
Personally, I like the Russian FOAB option better as I've always loved, enjoyed and adored big fireworks!
It's a very strange feeling knowing you've served yourr country, but now your country is supporting those who are destroying your country and the world at large from within and it's the damned Russians who are taking up for humanity... Well, Mr. Putin, I don't like you because you're a mafia thug, but I sure as shit respect you for your actions as of late. Maybe that's what we need to restore sanity?
How confusing is that?
fuggedaboutit
Erdogan is a low-level thug with big dreams who happens to control a temporarily valuable airspace; aim for the puppetmasters and have the Tu-160s fly on to Tel Aviv.
Putin is not a Mafia thug. Utter nonsense.
Dead Man Walking
From the article: "The prime source of money feeding ISIS these days is sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields where they maintain a stronghold. "
It's a good bet that the Russians will cut off oil supplies from Iraq as well.
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...
Crazy and fun website beforeitsnews.com - BIN is like the national enquirer meets the onion but have tremendous amounts of authors which do produce some very truthful revealing stories. This is one of those such stories and this article you posted has a lot of juice!
Thanks man!
P.S. Those who are going negative on you... you're dead eye dick over the target. There are absolutely gov trolls operating in here. Take it from someone who has actually possessed not one but two top secret clearances, this article is dead on target.
The facts of what and who built this ISIS are glaring. Our guys inside need to get on the right team and the right side of history, that's for damn sure.
So he's like Hunter Biden, without a jew dominated media protecting him.
Russia needs to force Erdogan in a position where NATO no longer needs him. Then NATO will get rid of him like they did Saddam when he ran out his usefulness.
Do not take the Zionists bait. Turkey has the second largest army in NATO and the zog would LOVE to see Russia sucked into that mess.
I will look into the phosphate connection
This is a comonent of an article I wrote 2 years ago. The link no longer works (scrubbed by someone). Here is what remains.
Prized Phosphate Drives Controversial Investments In Africa (Must Read)
Last year, the Norwegian government, which has the world's largest sovereign wealth fund, divested PotashCorp because of its purchase of Western Saharan phosphate. Several European banks have done the same. And the European Union last year ended a fishing agreement with Morocco, which included Western Sahara waters, because of concerns that it violated international law.
Other resources are still being exploited. Sand is exported to the nearby Canary Islands, owned by Spain, to bolster beaches there. Several international companies are exploring for oil in Western Sahara or off its shores. Activists say the Austin, Tex.-based company Crystal Mountain Sel Sahara is producing salt in Western Sahara. And several European companies as well as American company UPC Renewables are developing wind farms in Western Sahara, with plans to export the energy. Such investments go forward with little controversy, despite the legal gray area.
Bilal Spetnatz. Spetnatz Bilal. Great, now that that's sorted...
If they have the ability to prove there is illegal oil on the tanker(s), all Russia has to do is seize them on the open sea and let them to be taken to a neutral port and have the oil tested. If it proves to be illegal than issue arrest warrants for everyone involved.
No bloodshed but an extremely effective way to go one up particularly if you take more than one ship.
It is clear they don't have a pipeline for a lot of the oil as it is being smuggled on tanker trucks which are extremely easy to take out. If this smuggling has been going on for sometime you have to then understand that the US government is somehow complicit in not destroying those assets in the first strikes against ISIS. If that is the truth, then either those officials have supported terrorism and need to be tried or they are so incompetent that they need to be dismissed from office. There really is no other explanation seeing how some of the very first targets by the Russians were the oil tankers.
Let all our brothers and sisters who elected Obama bin Laden to office now do the victory dance.
no mate, once the paper work is done you cannot tell where the oil comes from. a refinery buyer explained it to me - they buy crude based on the paper and that's good enough for them. the refiners are KILLING IT right now. This oil glut has everyone dropping their shorts - the Iraqi government is discounting their oil down to $30 per barrel (as of earlier this week).
Trump was right. You need to solve this problem by bombing at the wellhead or during the smuggling process as the Russians are doing. Once it gets into Turkey or ISIS controlled Syria its too late.
Short first born sons.
A russian jet plane has been shot down, and suddenly ZH found the founder of ISIS!!!! War time propoganda at its finest... I feel sorry those who believe this kind of crap..
I feel sorry for people who can't read or follow the money.
That news has been circulating long before the aircraft incident.
I am sorry you can't read so well.
State department makes you work on Thanksgiving?
I noticed the trolls are quiet today. National holiday and they won't troll ZH on their own time.
Youmutti, tehfinn, alphahomo, etc got the day off from being annoying, terrorist supporting bags of shit, it seems.
Massive potato shortage due to all the mashed potatos for Thanksgiving
farflungstar
Still a few tedious trollers today.
K
double overtime?
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If this is true then it is tantamount to Erdogan & son Bilal committing treason against Turkey.
Instigating conflict, bringing the country to the brink of war, unjustified killing of innocents, and jeopardizing the country.
The two of them should face the firing squad.
Will Turks look at it the proper way and decide if a firing squad needs to be organized?
This would also be a lesson to other leaders not to be bought and paid for by the cabal which controls.
Erdogan is up to his neck in actively supporting ISIS terrorism.
I doubt if there will be much effort within Turkey to hold him and his son to account for their crimes due to the certain existence of hit squads which fascists like him always have on hand to deal with whistleblowers.
ZH did also report some strange dealings between Erdogan and Iran about gold and Oil transactions during the pre-nuclear deal, tight embargo days.
There was an issue of 1 billion $ being hidden in some nooks and crannies...in Istanbul.
Looks like the new presidential palace has lots of nooks and crannies for the whole Erdogan family !
Tayyip Erdogan conspired with his son Bilal to hide one billion dollars once Turkey’s graft probe was opened in December. Recordings of the two Erdogans having four separate phone conversations about this topic are on Youtube [ed. note: the billion dollar figure is listed in the introduction to the Youtube clip and has been widely reported, but the taped conversation itself shows the Erdogans talking about hiding tens of millions and not billions],
http://ottomansandzionists.com/2014/02/25/tayyip-erdogan-worlds-newest-b...
http://www.todayszaman.com/columnists_yasin-al-qadi-and-the-erdogan-fami...
And RT chimes in:
https://www.rt.com/business/323391-isis-oil-business-turkey-russia/
Maybe this is among the reasons that some people are mad: "Islamic State is selling oil at $15–25 per barrel"
https://twitter.com/hashtag/StopTurkeySuppportOfISIS
Mystery over who bombed Turkish convoy allegedly carrying weapons to militants in Syria
https://www.rt.com/news/323538-turkey-convoy-syria-attack/
Seems that no one has yet owned up to owning the convoy, as you say, that means it contained weapons for the terrorists in Syria.
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/november212015/israel-turkey.php
Here's a person that likes to hedge his bets, he does Business in Israel while at the same time backs ISIS. He must have been trained by bankers.
"He also earned a Masters Degree in John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in 2004."
Trained by the masters of deceit and plunder.
I asked the Tylers that question a week ago : does One trader interface between the Erdogan regime and ISIS ?
Now I have the response and what a name; a Rose by any other name would it SMELL the SAME ? ( We need a Daniel to pass judgement!)
Looks like the french fries come free with the ISIS oily hamburger (according to this post)!
The French connection is an interesting twist that could be a follow on to the Libyan caper by the same team (as partners to US lead). Syria and Lebanon have always been close to the hearts of the French MIC since Sykes-Picot days.
Hmmm, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mantra acquires a Faustian twist which goes beyond Machiavelli's legendary principle of End and Means!
Something very rotten in kingdom of Denmark, aka Nato-land.
-I never going to be tired of repeating this until Humans start to put the “ACT TOGETHER”…-
Humanity is in trouble!...
How Psychopaths operate and how to deal with them:
As humans, we need to confront this threat and DEAL with it.
We need to remember that cooperating with evil, on ANY level, is a MISTAKE and it will ultimately come back to bite you.
So why we spend so much ink and time to explain how to American (Predatory) Capitalism works?!
When relationship with reptilian host is killing us…
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"Never wrassle with a pig;you both get dirty,and the pig likes it." Mark Twain
How Psychopaths operate and how to deal with them:
Make those Reptilians circumcised and you got a conspiracy theory that most people here will buy.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLEmttwU4S7-vMdDYH...
And there you have it. NATO will be mentioned with respect to this Turkish family "operation" soon enough.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/26/middleeast/syria-turkey-russia-warplane-sh...
An apology from that low-life has the same value as dog-crap on the sole of your shoe.
The truth shall set you free.
Pretty sure this guy will be dead before Christmas..
This is the kind of work that ZH does best!
So the purpose of the US proposed no-fly zone is to protect the ISIS oil tanker trucks once they get near the Turkish border?
So the purpose of the US proposed no-fly zone is to protect the ISIS oil tanker trucks once they get near the Turkish border?
A "No-Fly Zone" helps ISIS oil get transported to Turkey while the trucks backhaul arms to ISIS. Is there any wonder why this is proposed as U.S. policy ?
If the Turkish President is shooting down anti-ISIS planes in order to save his son's business, and the NATO nations are excusing that action, then we really are in a filthy swamp of criminality. It's going to be very hard to climb out of it. Any high moral ground is way out of NATO's reach - now, if not before.
When I wrote about the famous ISIS Toyotas a year ago (link below), I reckoned the CIA might have bought them on ISIS's behalf - but now I wonder if perhaps Turkey's top oligarch didn't do it on his own. I also presumed the Toyotas had been manufactured in the US, but I've since learned that the Toyota company also manufactures left-hand-drive trucks in Thailand. This story has a lot of angles still to uncover - and not just which tax-haven was used to facilitate the transactions. More likely Hong Kong or Singapore than any one over in this part of the world, in this instance.
http://barlowscayman.blogspot.com/2014/10/who-sold-isis-all-those-toyotas.html
Right now I can't tell the exact names but several Toyota models are in fact assembled in Turkey.
P.S. Corolla and Verso as it appears.
Gata wonder if the Erdogay family owns the Toyota franchises there. Keep it all in the family. Turnkey tewwawism packages and distribution.
Too bad we couldn't get a Vin#, that would tell us a world of info! You got that, you got a lot of detail unless the Vin numbers themselves were prealtered intentionally.
"Russia is preparing wide-ranging economic sanctions against Turkey over the downing of one of its jets on the Turkey-Syria border."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34933608
"Mr Medvedev said: "The government has been ordered to work out a system of response measures to this act of aggression in the economic and humanitarian spheres."He said the focus would be on "introducing limits or bans" on Turkish economic interests in Russia and a "limitation of the supply" of products, including food.He said tourism, transport, trade, labour and customs as well as "humanitarian contacts" could all be affected. "The same rules may apply to a whole range of investment projects," he said."
Do not focus on Ergodan, focus on the US:
Seymour Hersh, April 2014:
A highly classified annex to the report, not made public, described a secret agreement reached in early 2012 between the Obama and Erdo?an administrations. It pertained to the rat line. By the terms of the agreement, funding came from Turkey, as well as Saudi Arabia and Qatar; the CIA, with the support of MI6, was responsible for getting arms from Gaddafi’s arsenals into Syria. A number of front companies were set up in Libya, some under the cover of Australian entities. Retired American soldiers, who didn’t always know who was really employing them, were hired to manage procurement and shipping. The operation was run by David Petraeus, the CIA director who would soon resign when it became known he was having an affair with his biographer. (A spokesperson for Petraeus denied the operation ever took place.)
Operation Turkeyfuck.
The evidence is overwhelming that the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are all supporting terrorism.
US, bomb yourself!
One glaring omission in the Pentagram of evi
US
Turkey
Qatar
Saudimites
ISRAEL
A Clinton foundation donor for sure
Doncha know he went to Haaavad.
He likes the caaack
The following article is an eye opener in terms of how ISIL finances itself!
http://journal-neo.org/2015/11/03/isis-financial-sources/
The bottom line is you can't sell anything, unless you have someone willing to buy it!
Hey Tyler (or anyone else who wants to do the research,
It might not be a bad idea to look further into Alain Juppe who was mentioned in Engdahl's article. He was responsible for the privatization of a French foreign trade bank and two French shipping companies years back. But old ties run deep in politics and shady deals.
This is what I found from a cursory look at French Wiki:
Alain Juppe is pursuing the other movements privatizations initiated between 1986 and 1988 and since 1993 with the metallurgical group Pechiney and Usinor Sacilorin 1995, the French Foreign Trade Bank (BFCE, sold over the counter at theNational Credit to give birth to Natixis), the Compagnie Générale Maritime (CGM also sold over the counter to the charter shipping company to create the group CMA -CGM), the General Insurance of France (AGF with the purse-up 51% of the capital, the State retaining only 2%) and the French Rhine Shipping Company (RNFL, sold over the counter at the Technical Association of the coal import ATIC) in 1996.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Jupp%C3%A9
ISIS support in Turkey could have nothing at all to do with any of these companies today, but then again it might. Seeing the foreign trade bank and shipping connections here just alerted my spidey senses.
Yeah, let me guess, he is on a US terror watch list, coming from Turkey which is itself on a US list of countries sponsoring terrorism, in US waged "war on terror".
Please...
Fellow ZH ers. I was lucky enough this morning to stumble upon this video on the Beforeitsnews link. An absolute must watch if you have time!! I believe Dr. James Wickstrom. DAMN this dude has it dead on!! If after this one cant get the big picture of whats going on after this i dont know what will.. It will be best case scenario if the Tylers can point this out. This is outstanding!! God bless this man. The passion he displays. It seems to me he is genuinely pissed for what he knows has, is and will happen .
http://beforeitsnews.com/terrorism/2015/11/its-not-blacks-its-not-muslim...
Saudi Arabia, Tuykey...
With friends like this who needs enemies?
Bilal Erdogan
Bad Oil Langer
http://journal-neo.org/2015/11/25/israeli-colonel-caught-with-is-pants-d...
It is about oil and the disintegration of the Arab countries. Destruction of nations and killing of their people mean absolutely nothing to these psycopaths. In fact , the chosen people have planned the destruction of the Arab countries just so there will be no centralized pwer to threaten Israel.
It's all in the Yinon Plan.
Didn't all of this start years ago when a black president sprayed a red graffiti line in Syria?
If Riyadh thinks it can run and hide from this problem they created, they will soon find that they cannot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvFQ_Kp-GwU&feature=player_embedded
Turkey is facilitating selling ISIS stolen oil from Iraq and Syria oilfields to G20 membership countries on the black market at a dumping price. Has been estimated that as much as $800mil of oil has been sold in Turkey by ISIS using Turkey / Syrian border in direct dealings between Turkish officials and ISIS members under the blind eye of UK and USA.
Turkey is a corrupt, jihadist sh*t hole that hosts, protects, finances and offer intelligence and logistics to ISIS under cover of NATO membership and alliance with USA.
Turkey is considered a USA ally while ISIS is considered a terrorist faction in war with America.
Turkey is s state sponsor of ISIS with a NATO membership. NATO is harboring a state that sponsors ISIS. That makes NATO and all nations within NATO membership accomplices of sponsoring terrorism.
Turks are a nation of retards, ugly cowards cockroaches, twisted brain dead evil jihadists, double standards, human & drugs traffickers, pathetic thieves, backstabbing liars, perverts, pedophiles and useless eaters’ on the wrong side of human genetics. They could not make such a decision of taking down a Russian jet fighting ISIS without proper permission from US, UK and NATO. That makes this entire incident a premeditated act against Russia.
... and they just went "Full retard" against Russians.
And just imagine, now Hitlery and Bubba Jeb want in on the game.
We're fooked.
So... no real proof to those claims... ok... move along... just another criminal putin regime lies propaganda.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/669651505452986368
Turkey is buying and selling ISIS oil while NATO is smuggling Taliban opium.
Guys, Turkey is just doing what it is told by the 12th Imam, Obama
https://believeacts2blog.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/11-17-15-the-mostly-ig...
NSA is monitoring Merkel, Hollande etc. yet it claims ignorance when it comes to Jihadi Erdogan and his family dealings with ISIS with a straight face. And latest noise from the WH indicates that they will stay the course in their support for ISIS enablers and "affiliates", Turkey.
But yeah, let's get that bastard Snowden, he is so bad, he is the worst...It's false that nobody asked the question. Financial Times did an entire panel about the financing of ISIS, as well as how and where it exactly goes. They also mentioned that the rebels themselves buy the oil, because it's cheap. Turkey's involvement is no surprise either, there have been rumours about Erdogan hating Assad for a very, very long time. On a personal basis.
As to what Meyssan said, this is indeed a curious statement and not an unlogical one. However, he is politically involved and his statements should not be taken as facts.
Edit:ISIS & oil https://next.ft.com/content/b8234932-719b-11e5-ad6d-f4ed76f0900a published on October 14 2015
US accuses Syria of financing ISIS through Russian and Cypriot businessmen, published today https://next.ft.com/content/8650d576-93bc-11e5-bd82-c1fb87bef7af
In the end, not only the West have petrol & blood on their hands. How unsurprising.
What irks me the most is the lack of investigative journalism during this whole middle east fiasco. It was as if after the watergate scandal, washington vowed never again and thus began the death of journalism. In the day and age when you have have alternative media giving more indept analysis than CNN/BBC on geopolitical issues and sites like muddywaters using investigation as means of peeling away the corporate veil of corruption, one has to wonder the nature of the illusion we find ourselves in.
As i have assimilated more information, the words from morpheous in the matrix to neo in the training simulation continously ring true.
"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. "
So these liberal moral leaders...compassionatety force millions of middle-eastern nationals to flee into Europe, brutally enforced by marxist police, so they can steal liguid gold while China buys real metal gold. I guess the new modern economy wasnt quite so perfect. Wow saints all.
If it is this bad and convoluted somebody from the US must be getting a cut of the oil money fom ISIS. I'm sure the same banking regulators that get excited if I deposit $10,000 in my banking account will get right on it.
Under criminal putin regime rule in Crimea no electricity: https://youtu.be/rYUsK9hN_kg
Pathetic Latvian troll, grovels for potato, I'll pretend to be your psychoanalyst and you could tell me why you have so long every day, so much was hot on Vova?
I know the Vovan everyone has claims, but I have the feeling that you believe he personally ruined your life.
As can see your envy in every word for Putin and Russia.
Supreme deity of your country. Everything boils down to Putin.
Yeah. Hard drugs are still in vogue.
My guess is that the Turks/US expected Russia to come out guns blazing following the pre-meditated shootdown of the Su-24. They certainly have laid waste to the area where the Turkish Fascist Gray Wolves were operating, following their execution of the Su-24 pilot as he parachuted to ground.
Lavrov however has brought out the finely sharpened stilleto. He has stated:
“Some members of the coalition, including those providing their combat planes for strikes against Iraq and Syria have confided to us the planes involved were of US manufacture and the Americans normally request US permission for such operations”
“As far as I understand, our plane was downed by a US-made F-16. It remains to be seen whether the US requirement is applicable to Turkey, and if it is, I would like to know if Turkey had asked the United States for permission to send its planes on a combat mission and to shoot down a plane, albeit probably an identified one, over Syrian territory.” [Note all within 17 seconds]
I suspect he knows the answer to the first part, and the US know he knows. I suspect he also knows the answer to the second part. So US, who gets the stiletto between the ribs? You, Turkey or both?
Turkey have their own F-16s all right. They just would not use them in this situation without the express consent of the US and most probably with the direction and clearance of an airborne AWACs aircraft to ensure they had not locked onto a "friendly" aircraft.
Putin said in his live press conference in Moscow a short while ago that Russia shares bombing mission data with the US-led coalition to avoid the risk of aerial conflicts arising.
He asked the rhetorical question of whether the US shared that data with Turkey. Since Turkey is not involved in either coalition, there's no reason to. But it looks like the US did provide data to Turkey which allowed them to be up in the air ready to shoot down the Russian plane.
It looks like the US was up to its neck in the SU-24 shoot down.
I would bet good money that there is an AWACS aircraft aloft 24/7 with detailed info on whatever aircraft is in the air including the Turtkish aircraft if they are anywhere near the border. The US military can't even lie straight anymore. I am ashamed of what my country did. The fact that the pilot was shot in his harness indicates that the new and improved CIA moderates are, if anything, as bad as the one that turned into ISIS.
its a pretty good bet that whoever decided to bring down the SU-24 had it on radar, knew its path exactly, and KNEW THAT IT HAD NO FIGHTER ESCORTS. I bet that those F-16's would not have tried that stunt if they were facing Russian fighters.
The logical consequence to all of this. There are a lot of Russian citizens who will be hating Turks and Americans. Does this make the world a safer place?
"There are never winners in war"
What bunk. Lots of wars have clear winners. The U.S. was the clear winner in WW2, which put it in position of global hegemon.
Why are ZH articles so one-sidedly pro-Russian / Assad? There are (at least) 2 sides to every story, but I only ever see one side on ZH.
Because lately, the US seems to be backing away from even the pretense of being the "good guy".
MSM does a pretty good job at portraying the other side, no?
tell that to the 442,000 of America's finest who died for nothing. The American ppl were substantially weakened, and now totally compromised if you focus on the players behind US involvement in WWII, the Pearl Harbor planned provocation, and the golden egg, the state of israel, which now lies at the center of every controversy - deadly one at that - in the world since. Considering the 'clear winner' was the zionist insurgency, that makes the American ppl the clear loser. We should have taken Washington's advice and stayed out of it. But that depends on who 'we' is, and exactly what the USA is. To me, it is a foregin government, or one occupied by a foreign power. This is the fruit of your brand of 'success'. America has been co-opted and transformed into something the founders I am certain would not recognize, and once they figured it out, would utterly repudiate. I think they would understand how it happend, and would bemoan their lack of foresight to legislatively block the future contingency from occuring - assuming it was possible. Looking at the way things are today, I know I didn't win anything. And unless you are zome zionist a***e, or some zionots sell out suck up waving the israeli flag on American soil, you lost too.
There are no winners in war. Confucius say:
"War not decide who is right. War decide who is left."
'russian warplanes bomb turkish syrian border town residents' 11/26/15
http://dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2015/Nov-26/324752-russian-warplanes-bomb-turkish-syrian-border-town-residents.ashx
Ref: Live News 'side panel' for updates.
http://www.worldportsource.com/ports/TUR.php
http://www.worldportsource.com/ports/SYR.php
There is a significant typo in your opening line that totally changes its meaning.
The original is
'Russian warplanes bomb turkish-syrian border town: residents'
Beirut for shipping ISIS oil? Doesn't that mean at least Hezbollah tacit approval? And Iran's approval? Not everything going on here is obvious.
The French ex-PM said on RT.com today that they have evidence that ISIS oil from Syria is being shipped directly to Turkish oil refineries.
Dunno if oil is also being shipped to Beirut or using Turkey as a transit route for shipping to Japan or wherever.
Russia is said to have blown up Turkish 'humanitarian'* aid convoys. Here is one such convoy. All becomes unambiguously clear at 1:20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIyR6XKp2RQ
* Philosophy 101 - Are ISIS actually human? Discuss.
Shiny new S-400 systems now operational at the airbase near Latakia. I guess Russia was just waiting for a reasonable excuse to unload them from the transport ship.
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/...
http://video.tvzvezda.ru/zvezda/bl01ugi00003rxv4afxxw1u4s00.flv
First we came across bomb-proof Syrian passports. New there is evidence for bomb-proof boxes of Turkish tomatos. The photograph was taken at Azaz, an arms transit point bombed by the Russian airforce a while ago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUve5tvWwAA9mAk.jpg
Compare the condition of the vehicle and the debris on the ground - shredded and burnt black - with the condition of the boxes of tomatos - unburnt, admittedly smashed from falling on the ground. Amazing!
Thanks to Julian Ropcke for finding this amazing scientific wonder.
http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/19/33/04/69/isis10.jpg
what really happened( google translation)
print version In the attack on Turkey's Su-24 was attended by the US and Saudi Arabia Interviews military expert, constant author of the magazine "Arsenal of the Fatherland", a specialist in the use of the Military Space Forces Alexei Leonkova. Alexei Petrovich, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin called the unprovoked attack on a Turkish fighter Russian aircraft returns to base after the attack on the position of LIH, "stab in the back". Do you agree with this assessment?How can you argue with the president? But I think that he is also commonly understood meaning of this phrase, it meant an additional meaning. The analysis shows that the attack on the Su-24M2 Russian VKS was pre-planned by Turkey and its military partners. In this case, we are talking about the operation, "Backstab". Indeed, our plane is waiting in ambush Turkish interceptors on land located sabotage and reconnaissance groups, disguised as local Turkomans were previously imported crews CNN and FOX ...
This is only a tactical software finals. The operation started much earlier. Throughout the period of the Russian VKS - Exploration of the NATO countries are not sitting idly by. The actions of our aviation was conducted by means of continuous monitoring of space, air and ground intelligence. In the attack he was involved in several complex reconnaissance and target - at least 3, and two F-16 with the latest missiles AIM-9X. How it all happened?
US Air Force Boeing E-3 Sentry AWACS flew November 24 from an air base in Preveza in Greece. Second Air Force E-3A Saudi Arabia took off from an airbase Riyadh. Both aircraft carried out one common task - to determine the exact locations of aircraft videoconferencing Russia. They are also chosen "victim." American E-3A was to determine the mode of weapon control radar of the Su-24M2, to check whether it is able to search or seizure has already completed and accompanied by the goal, producing data for firing. It is known that can control the actions of AWACS aircraft in combat and transfer of avionics and aircraft information to the NCP of warfare . That is, to determine how helpless our plane?
It turns out that, yes. As you know, the Su-24M2 was returning from a mission, and his NCP worked in the "navigation" in conjunction with GLONASS, he walked to the base and is not ready to take action. E-3 all the time passed details of the Su-24M2 pair patrol Turkish F-16CJ. This aircraft is specially produced for Turkey.Its feature is the presence of the computer, run the new radar AN / APG-68 and fulfill the role of co-pilot, navigator. But this information is not enough to enter the high-speed target. I used something else?
Indeed, output precision fighter F-16CJ further provides ground-based US Patriot air defense, stationed in Turkey, or rather their multifunctional radar AN / MPQ-53. Patriot air defense system can work with the E-3 electronic reconnaissance satellites and MENTOR, it is possible that the satellite constellation was still spacecraft "GEOSTAT." The flight path F-16CJ talking about precision output to the target by the method of triangulation: a pair of E-3A radar plus the Patriot air defense system plus RER MENTOR geostationary satellites, and possibly the spacecraft "GEOSTAT." At the same time the E-3 was allowed to indicate where our aircraft in the air is determined by its train, speed, status of weapons control, radar air defense system Patriot conjunction with the satellite signals intelligence MENTOR provide telemetry Movement Su-24M2 to the ground - that is, gave an accurate forecast sector appearance of our the aircraft relative to the mountainous terrain. It turns out that Turkish fighter exactly know where our plane waiting in ambush?
Of course. A pair of F-16CJ went to the area of ??start-up and at a distance of 4? 6 kilometers, almost at point blank range (!) Let missile "air-air" AIM-9X Sidewinder in the rear hemisphere Russian bomber. This radar AN / APG-68 fighters launch missiles operate in "light target": Turn at start-up and shut off after the rocket firm grip and hit the target. I did our pilots the ability to save the plane?
No. Chance to avoid defeat at the Su-24M2 crew were zero. Against missiles AIM-9X with a new matrix infrared seeker, the imaging target in the infrared range, and insensitive to heat trap, the Su-24M2 is no counter systems. His means of countering: BKO "Karpaty" station warning radar illumination ACT-15C teplopelengator LO-82 to detect missile launches, the station posing jamming SPS-161, the device release chaff and false thermal purposes AMS-50 - can not confront new missile AIM-9X. And if there was support for the fighters?
Now it will be. Of course, the tragedy could have been prevented pair of Su-30cm, have adopted BKO "Hibiny-U". But no one was waiting to strike back against an ally, especially warning about the details of the operation of our partner. You mean the "American partners", most of those who belong to the "Patriots" and "AWACS", as well as satellites, possibly involved in the operation?
Yes, with a high degree of probability. No Turkey's own capacity for such meticulous and very precise work.And do not forget the second the E-3, assigned to the Air Force KSA. The whole scenario quite fleeting, the score went to second. Is everything went so smoothly?
The Turks still make a mistake, because of the provocation which is not entirely successful. F-16CJ took to defeat late in 2 minutes, when the Su-24M2 has already left the station 68 km disputed territory in northern Syria (its flight it took 1.5 minutes maximum). Team "defeat" F-16CJ not canceled, so the missile launch was carried out a little further calculation point. This is confirmed by the fact that shooting the fall of the Su-24M2 was planned as from the territory of Syria, and with Turkey, but "Syrian" pictures in more detail. It seems that it saved and our navigator. He was able to go to the "Zelenka" and wait for the search party there. Interviewed expert of the Commission on Security MHD Dmitry Efimov
thankyou for posting this data
krage_man
Hey Baba,
Does this baklava taste like polonium to you??
Meritocratic eh my ZH friends?
Billal, just like his father before him, took the route of 'Government'. Rather than earn the privilege of serving his family of country wide compatriots, he chose just the same fucking filthy route his old man did, ask not what I can return to you, but what you lot of unaware cunts can serve to better help me and mine.
Billal, you and those like you, from whatever fucking country you live in, it makes no fucking difference, you cunts are going to be on the receiving end of reckoning you never even knew was coming.
You know Syria? Iraq even? Hows about Afganistan?
You are going to the front son, including anyone who has even sniffed the clothes you dont deserve to walk about in you cunt.
The web I type on will make damn sure you cunts will serve a penance that you quite rightly deserve. I would hang you, for the dogs you are, but such is life, some things are better left to those that know a proper gut wrenching, violent and unforgiving vengeance that I myself just cant see. Perchance it may even be those that you send to do the job you cunts cant?
Your turn next Billal.
A dead man walking
Eh?
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My kinda guy.... you put in words how I wish for jutice and revenge to fall on these psychopaths.
Bilal... name is close to that of belial. wonder if they are related.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belial
Black Bush "I'm trying to get that oil!!"
I posted a link to this story on my FB page, and within a couple of hours had a very sinister new visitor on my Instagram feed. This machine-gun wielding Goliath is obviously a a local special forces guy from Turkey, so this story has really hit a nerve.
I don't post here much, but 0H is my home page, and has been for a very long time. In the interests of freedom and mutual support I suggest that we find a way to share all responses to sharing or linking this story.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/11/azerbaijan-recalls-consul-general-f...
Azerbaijan may not go for Erdogan's Neo Ottoman foreign policy
Turkish delivery trucks destroyed inSyrian town ofAzaz 5 km from Turkish border
Any Turkish assests in Syria will be mercilessly destroyed reardless of Turkish nationals killed
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/11/russia-destroys-turkish-truck-convo...
I think it's strange that Putin has never held a press conference outlining his evidence for this or for that; an Adlai Stevenson as opposed to a Colin Powell type scenario.
He obviously has the goods on everyone.
I'm sure that Erdogan knows that he has all the evidence on Junior, nevertheless he went off message, knocked the pieces off the board, claimed he won and that the Russians are too emotional by not accepting his "victory".
Putin is probably perplexed by this completely weird behaviour. I'm sure the Americans, Hollande today, and the rest, are back channelling ferociously. I'm sure the Kurds figure in the mix.
Putin probably thinks that having a mentally unstable opponent, or an opponent who knows he's losing, allows him to ignore the American checkers diplomacy and just tweak Erodgan into complete nervous breakdown?
Surprise: Erdogan's son posing with the commanders of the IG
http://fapnews.ru/199131-syurpriz-syin-erdogana-poziruet-s-komandirami-ig/
I just did a quick search on this article. NOT one link leads to any MSM news outlet. NOT one mention anywhere I can see.....and this should be huge information that is coming out. Thanks Tyler.
See here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here for starters.
Helps if you can read Turkish I guess, or use a translator and you'll get the jist of it.
Corbett Report interview with Sibel Edmonds from 2014.
So . . . . the Russians have outed the Turks' dealings with ISIS. That will allow the U.S. and EU to turn on their "allies" the Turks (if that's what they want to do), blame them for the continuing survival of ISIS and end accession talks for the Turks to the EU once and for all.
France is clearly going to hop into bed with Russia now, and Turkish membership in the EU is dead because France will make it so. Schengen is dead because Paris. With Schengen dead and border controls up, "refugees" are going to be stopped from getting past the Balkans although they may overrun Greece. Either that, or a shooting war may start over it in Greece, labeled ostensibly as a "civil war" over austerity because Germany doesn't want the immigrants shot but won't come and get them either.
Gods, this is going to have blowback in four directions. Suddenly I really hope Trump wins the Presidency, because he's the only candidate who has the balls to make independent foreign policy decisions. And we're going to have to dump both Saudi Arabia AND Israel if we don't want to get into a shooting war with Russia -- AND LOSE.
The plot thickens.
http://news.yahoo.com/us-knew-flight-path-plane-downed-turkey-putin-2026...
Sounds like someone will have a nailgun accident
http://www.ourladyofperpetualexemption.com
This guy exposed the church fraud and IRS complicity in the religious frauds ongoing. This church he created to expose the aforementioned did recieve donations which were then given to Doctors Without Borders...
Comes from the same manual: Hunter Biden in Ukraine.
We start understanding now why some NATO missiles had to be removed from Turkey and others were switched off.
Turkey - the NATO and EU partner of your dreams.
W.T. Woodson High School
Actually I think the US is paying a double game; the intent is to establish an independent Kuridstan. By "helping" the animosity between Russia and Turkey, Russia can logically increase support to the Kurds (and Turkey's mortal enemy the PKK) and the US would like this to happen while not being seen as being directly involved. The US hopes to establish another military foothold in this new Kurdistan; it may not work out so well for the US as it would for the Russians. The Turks pissed the US off by not being obedient poodles got set up and now getting hung out over the Su shootdown.
Sum evenink reading and listening pleasure on a slow mo T-day night. Enjoy!
RAND PAUL TELLS US THE TRUTH "CIA FUNDED ISIS UNDER OBAMA ADMIN TO PROMOTE MORE WAR IN MIDDLE EAST":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oidaJHwZZgs
World Governments Caught Supporting ISIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwvIxlDvJlY
Free Book-Nobody Died At Sandy Hook:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook.pdf
"http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook.pdf"
One of the most suspicious aspects of Sandy Hook - as the book says - is that the victims of the shootings have never been named on grounds of privacy. That's dubious nonsense.
Enquiring minds ask: how is it that this incident was not real but was an exercise, a hoax, but none of the local people in Sandy Hook have come out publicly to say that? How can such an incident involving a lot of people be a hoax without the truth seeping out?
I know that other hoaxes have used compartmentalisation to ensure that anybody playing a part is only told what they need to know, but that looks slightly difficult on this occasion.
Bottom line: I dunno the truth. I lean towards it being a giant hoax but need more evidence.
"I lean towards it being a giant hoax but need more evidence."
Must be sumptin to this book as it has been banned by amazon, thus the reason the authors are giving it away for free.
Blessings on ya.
Bring on the War on Evil!
Call to the devil
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Oillah Hoo A-kabar
(Oil demon , come out of your grave)
Muhammed-ur-rasool oillah
(And Muhammed-representsTheOilDemon)
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The oil demon which will lead the world into nuclear war endangeing the entire planet
qyamat
Well it's always going to be a bit suspicious when you have two F15's on your boarder waiting for a Russian jet to come close... This ia huge headache for USA, as it couldn't intervene hit ISIS because it needed its close ally Turkey to keep profiting from ISIS oil... So when Russia decided to actually bomb ISIS, then USA must have been crapping its pants... ISIS thought as long as it could pay off Turkey and USA they would be safe.. now USA has to decide to continue to support ISIS and Turkey against Russia and Syrria, or if USA will actually decide to wipe out ISIS...
If the people of Paris want to know who killed all those people - Bilal Erdogan is their paymaster. Without his sponsorship it wouldn't have happened.
Does he go by "Bil" to friends?