800 Shotguns Headed To Belgium From Turkey Seized In Italy

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Following the ISIS assault on Paris that left 130 dead prompting Francois Hollande to declare that France is “at war,” authorities quickly established a link to the infamous Brussels suburb of Molenbeek. 

The working class, immigrant neighborhood - which is separated from the historical district by a canal and is but a 20 minute subway ride from Brussels' European Quarter - has become synonymous with radicalization and terror. As we put it last week, “what Charlestown is to bank robbers, Molenbeek is to European jihadists.” 

"The assassination of the Afghan anti-Taliban commander Ahmed Shah Massoud, immediately before the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001; the train bombings in Madrid in 2004; and the killing of four people at the Brussels Jewish Museum in 2014; the foiled shooting on a high-speed train, the anti-terrorist raid in the eastern Belgian town of Verviers, the attack on a Paris kosher supermarket and, finally, the Nov. 13 attacks on the French capital — all had some connection to Molenbeek,” The New York Times wrote earlier this month.

But it’s not just Molenbeek. In January, two operatives working under the direction of Paris mastermind Abdelhamid Abaaoud were killed when Belgian police raided a safehouse in Verviers. 

In short, Belgium has apparently become a kind of hub for jihadists. Not wanting to let a good crisis go to waste, the entire country - and especially Brussels - has been on high alert for nearly a week now as authorities hunt for several suspects who are purportedly planning a “serious and imminent” terrorist attack. 

In what may be the latest evidence that there are indeed multiple active terror cells operating in the country (or in what may merely be evidence that some anonymous Belgian collector just really loves Winchesters), Italian police seized some 800 shotguns bound for Belgium today at the Port of Trieste.

Here's the story from La Stampa (translated):

A load of about 800 shotguns, from Turkey to Germany, Holland and Belgium, has been discovered and seized by the Financial Police and the Customs at the Port of Trieste. The weapons of war were transported, without authorization, by a tractor-trailer driven by a Dutch citizen turkish. The cargo consisted of 781 shotguns model "Winchester SXP" from 12-51 cm, 66 shotguns "Winchester SXP" from 12-41 cm. 15 rifle and kicking.   


Tir had landed in Trieste on 23 November. The weapons were contained in hundreds of cardboard boxes, each of which containing a shotgun, all directed in Belgium. Given the peculiarities of the load, its origin and destination, the Financial Police and customs officials have declined to elaborate documentation. Although there were no irregularities of customs, it had not been requested permission to the authorities of public security for the transportation. 

And here's a look at the merchandise: 

Finally, a bit more from The Daily Star

The finance police, who are often in charge of port security, said that while customs rules had not been violated, the Turkish truck driver did not have the licences needed to transport the 781 Winchester SXP shotguns.


Pump-action Winchester SXP rifles are made for hunting and are not considered assault weapons, but police said they had "substantially" increased their border inspections in the wake of the Nov. 13 Paris attacks and subsequent alert in Belgium.


"Given the delicate nature of the cargo, its origin and its destination, the documentation regarding the rifles was immediately examined," the statement said.

What should immediately jump out at you here is that these were being sent from Turkey to Belgium. While anyone who's followed Syria's protracted civil war knows that Ankara has long been suspected of aiding and abetting Islamic State (just ask the PKK, or Newsweek, or even ISIS themselves), Erdogan's role in financing the group was thrown into sharp relief this week after Vladimir Putin accused Turkey of facilitating the sale of illegal Islamic State crude (from which the group derives some half a billion dollars per year in revenue). 

We've documented the Turkey-ISIS connection on dozens of occasions this year, but notably we revisited the link on Tuesday courtesy of Nafeez Ahmed in "NATO Is Harboring ISIS, And Here's The Evidence" and then on Wednesday evening, we took our first peak down what is likely to be a very deep rabbit hole in "Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President."

Given all of this, one is certainly left to wonder just where in Turkey these 800 pump action shotguns came from and, more importantly, who sent them to Belgium. While we're sure there were likely a string of intermediaries involved, we wouldn't be surprised to learn that ultimately, there's a connection to Ankara and from there, to ISIS.

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Bonus: for those of you wondering what kind of damage you can do with a Winchester SXP, here's an official video from the company's website called "Everybody's Shootin'" - just imagine the ducks are people.

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Berspankme's picture

Van Rumpoy's christmas order interuppted

oddjob's picture

Or maybe, Sudden Debt ordered these to combat those pesky pot smokers.

Nero_Hedge's picture

I love how ww3 is happening at a time of unprecedented ability to communicate instantly, globally, and through various mediums- and yet, we are as uncertain as ever about everything. I only woke up and started looking closely 3 years ago or so, but already it seems impossible to follow all the plot twists and turns- devious fucks run the world..

Bay of Pigs's picture

It's a wonder Turkey ever became a member of NATO in the first place.

Conchy Joe's picture

same as it ever was - an attempt to block the Russians/soviets from the ME and the Med - also a handy place to put missles

While missiles in Turkey may not mean a whole lot with respect to attacking Russia, their proximity will require the attacking country to launch those missles first giving those who live further away a chance to run to their underground McMansions

Same was true for Cuba

tarabel's picture



Why do people keep saying that? It's geographic location is priceless. It has a huge, fierce army that overthrows the government whenever it gets too out of hand. Hates Russia with an undying passion. Owns the only egress point into or out of the Black Sea. Since the NATO aliance was built around the idea of containment of Russia, it's membership is practically a necessity in order to achieve the stated mission.

Nor should it be forgotten that Greece and Turkey were the very first accretions (1952) to the original 16 founding members from 1949. They have been a valuable member of the alliance virtually from the start. It's not like they showed up last year.

Ghordius's picture

and they allowed Jupiter missiles to be based there, to the point that Krushev could "see them" whenever he was vacationing in Crimea. which was one of the many reasons, including the Bay of Pigs, for the whole Cuban Missile Crisis

further, they were - until lately - really, really good neighbours. it's not that long time ago that Assad, then a peaceful president of a peaceful (and strikingly beautiful) country was a welcome guest of Ankara

but "hates with a passion Russia" is imho a bit extreme. wary, extremely wary. Antalya, though, was for years the new Russian middle-class vacationing spot. there are even Kremlin-shaped hotels there

itstippy's picture

Thank you tarabel and Ghordius; very informative comments.  I'm woefully ignorant of the 20th century history of the region, and the mainstream media here in the U.S. isn't in any hurry to truthfully enlighten me.

Those 800 shotguns are a gunrunners' shipment destined for resale on the black market to the native Belgian population, not an intended terrist supply.  Many native Belgians are afraid of the influx of Muslim refugees and are willing to pay a lot of money for a means of protecting themselves and their families.  

Jayda1850's picture

The more surreal and sad fact is that even with all the information that is now available almost instantaneous, 90% of people still have no clue as to what is really going on. I venture to guess those before the internet may have been more world knowledgeable.

o r c k's picture

Back then we could rely on a loyal press to at least make some effort to tell the truth and cut through the propaganda.

Winston Churchill's picture

a pet peeve of mine.

The technology has actually stopped people thinking.

Why think when you can ask your smart phone, or ring someone else and ask them.

willwork4food's picture

Which is carefully scripted or outright false.

Ghordius's picture

I often point out tidbits from memory... and then, when asked for links, I draw a blank

ToSoft4Truth's picture

Turkey is a double agent.

williambanzai7's picture

Fuck Turkey!

It's Thanksgivng

ZombieHuntclub's picture

Should have bought Benelli's or Beretta's d Italia. Those are terrible shotguns. 

Conchy Joe's picture

They hold Joe Biden in high esteem and know that when he says "shotguns are all you need" he speaks the truth

farflungstar's picture

These fucking Turkish shitbag scum of the earth. Will the Western response be to sanction and hold them responsible? Or will there be a call for understanding Turkish feelings while the CIA airdrops the interrupted shipment in anyway?


WTFUD's picture

That's 800 Shotgun Weddings!

J Jason Djfmam's picture

You could have a heckuva weekend in Vegas with all this stuff.

StrikerMax's picture

No one understands that in Europe having a gun is hugelly Difficult and tedious to obtain a permit.

Those guns are not going to any Muslin ... those guns are the ones  people in Belgium are in a Hurry to buy by any means! Legal or otherwise. Since they now know Were is the Daesh Headquarter in Europe

Gun running is going to be a Major Major business in Europe in times to come.

People now face the two options:

Wait for one year to get a gun, enter every single State database, Pay a huge 600€+ Just for the license .... or:

solve your issues with a simple 1000 anonymous gun runner ...

Those 800 Shotguns were for Belgiium folks Option 2 ...



JimmyRainbow's picture

belgium has the laxest laws for weapons in complete europistan

StrikerMax's picture

true but EVEN like that they need a huge amount of cash and it takes a long time ...

So the option they had was correct ..get the gun no matter what as long as it's fast ...

and overall i think they madea great choice :)

EddieLomax's picture

I doubt very much any law abiding citizen is going to get an illegal gun, if caught they would face a 20 year prison sentence in some European countries, something only criminals will risk.

Ain't gun control wonderful...

StrikerMax's picture

First and Foremost Guns a Guns are a Human Right.

Defense of Life is the Most Important Human Rights actually.

So there is nothing "imoral" about trying to get a gun.

and about the Law abiding citizens as they say in the US, I think they prefer to be judged by 13 then carried by 6 ...

That's what is fueling the gun running and it is Awsome! :)


silverer's picture

No risk for the musloids, since they don't plan being around that long.

Buster Cherry's picture


I like that term and will use it going forward.


Thanks for expanding my voculary.

o r c k's picture

Gun control does not apply to the storage area of a Mosque. Authorities aren't allowed to search there due to the possibility of hurt feelings.

Omega_Man's picture

if it was an AK media would say "Russian weapon" shipment.

They were not made in Turkey

Also Shot guns would be excellent for terrorists to fire in large assemblies of people with SSG... easier to use for people with no arms training... a hit with each pull of the trigger.

jughead's picture

Uh, I don't believe Russia manufactures Winchesters.  "US weapon shipment" would be more accurate. 

FYI, Winchester SXPs are manufactured in Turkey.

J Jason Djfmam's picture

Are they certain these were not Kalashnikov pump shotguns?

jughead's picture

It's not exactly a secret that Winchester SXPs are manufactured in Istanbul.  

Super X Pump -- Pump Action Shotgun (SXP).
The SXP is a significant evolution of the exceptional Model 1300 Speed Pump. The Speed Pump established many speed and performance records over the years. The SXP is equally fast and incorporates new levels of quality and excellent value. Today's SXPs are designed and production is overseen by our R&D team in Morgan, Utah. They are then manufactured in our partner factory in Istanbul, Turkey. (Which used to be called Constantinople . . . you already know this if you learned the old song that says, "Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople.") Istanbul is a key manufacturing and trade center for Europe. Some SXP parts are sourced from our other Winchester group factories in Western Europe. SXPs are available in field models and Defender versions, and they are all assembled in the same factory. In an interesting bit of history, large numbers of Winchester Model 1866s were sold to the Turkish government in 1870 and Oliver Winchester himself, visited Constantinople (Istanbul) shortly thereafter to secure more sales of other firearms and ammunition.


tarabel's picture



Actually, the city was founded by the Roman Emperor Constantine, more generally known for his vision of the cross and the words "In Hoc Signo Vinces" (In This Sign, Conquer) that led to his personal conversion to Christianity. Later on, it was remaned Byzantium and remained so until taken by the Moslems in 1453, at which point it became Istanbul.

Uchtdorf's picture

Actually, I believe it was Byzantium before it was Constantinople.

Kaeako's picture

Yep, and the denizens of Constantinople never called themselves "Byzantines". It's a name invented in the west. The Eastern Romans called themselves Romans until it fell to the Turks, bringing a final end to those clinging on to the Roman empire.

tarabel's picture



You are correct. Writing from memory sometimes plays tricks.

all-priced-in's picture

Turkey makes a fine shotgun - I bought my wife one to use as a SD weapon - she also uses it to shoot clay targets once in a while.


It's a Hatsan Escort semi auto 20 gauge youth model, loaded up with 5 rounds of #3 buckshot, breaking into my house it will ruin your day  - I would not hesitate to grab it if I couldn't get to my Remington 870 or Versa Max Tactical.


My wife now prefers the Beratta CX4 Storm carbine - 30 rounds of 147 grain 9MM Federal HST.



Calmyourself's picture

Storm and the HST what a great combination, with a 16" barrel it hits with the power of .357 at muzzle.  Even a sub 2000 is a great option with glock mags 30 rounds in a light short package.  +1

philosophers bone's picture

Let's have a Debate!!   Rubio vs. Rand on CNN - Should USA defend NATO-member and ISIS supporting Turkey.   Oh, never mind - CNN will exclude Rand from being on the same stage!

Lorca's Novena's picture

This "story" is unfolding at a relativley fast pace, which pleases me. Eventually a shipment of cashiers checks to isis will be confiscated that are from the CIA branch office in DC wth Barrys signature. Speaking of guns, what the hell has Eric Holder been up to these days? He must be in Turkey i imagine...

stant's picture

I guess gun thefts will increase in America as organized crime(.gov) looks for Inventory

JimmyRainbow's picture

in psycho german msm it is reported that isis sells oil to assad.

so media in full normal public lying mode

tarabel's picture



Why wouldn't this be true? Civil Wars often requires commerce between the various participants even while they try to kill each other. The Confederacy was in desperate need of salt to preserve meat for their armies. The Union needed cotton to make clothes and tents for their soldiers. Guess where they obtained these items.

I read a recent article where there was an agreement between the two sides that allocated the output of a power plant that was behind the lines of one participant but reliant on fuel coming from the other side. This isn't a story about Angels versus Demons. It's about Nazi Thug Empire 1 duking it out with Nazi Thug Empire 2 and each side will do whatever it takes to win-- even if that means temporarily cooperating with the enemy until circumstances make it no longer necessary to do so.

StrikerMax's picture

Btw..the Turkish guns are the Obvious choice since those shotguns are like Mossberg/Remington clones on the cheap side.

It has nothing to do with the current events  ...simply Turkey has a low-cost gun manufacturer industry.

Urban Redneck's picture

Remington and Mossberg are cheap clones of Remington and Mossberg now.  I have between a trunk and a truck load of Remington 870's spanning a couple decades.  They've apparently now reached the point that the Remington website specifies that both the 870 Marine Magnum and 870 Tactical weigh approximately 7.5 pounds (since the internet never lies, and teaches most people what they think they know).  

So either the manufacturer doesn't even know the weight of its machined products to the nearest pound, or they've gone full retard with a surrealist rendition of Henry Ford and "any 870 as long it's crap."    

Spiritof42's picture
Spiritof42 (not verified) Nov 26, 2015 11:28 AM

I've become so cynical these days that it would not surprise me if Belgium authorities sweep this under the rug.