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Putin, Hollande Hold Joint Press Conference Over Anti-ISIS Talks - Live Webcast

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Moments ago, after nearly two hours of private talks in Moscow between Vladimir Putin and France's Francois Hollande, a press conference started in which the two world leaders will share the conclusions of their discussions: will France gravitate closer toward Moscow after the events of the past 2 weeks or will it remain a key block in the NATO anti-Russia alliance?

Some of Hollande's statements so far:

  • Assad can not play a role in Syrian future
  • France and Russia will share intelligence and exchange information
  • France and Russia will coordinate their strikes on the Islamic State, as well as coordinating what should not be hit
  • Putin will go to Paris on Monday to join climate change conference

Putin disagrees with Hollande and said that the future of Assad should be "entirely in the hands of the Syrian people", and adds that Russia will not attack areas that are not controlled by terrorist groups and will share intelligence on deciding which those are.

More importantly, Putin explains the reason for the deployment of the S-400 SAM system: Russia never thought it would need to deploy this system as ISIS don't have missiles that can reach the altitudes at which Russian airplanes fly, however it has no air defense protection against Turkish warplane attacks like the one that happened (adding he never expected a Russian jet to be attacked by someone considered an ally), essentially admitting that the S-400s deployed today are a deterrent to further Turkish activity and will be used promptly if a comparable situation to the one from Tuesday is repeated.

Perhaps most important, however, is topic #1, namely who is funding ISIS, and here Putin just said that Russia has observed industrial-scale oil supplies flowing from militant-controlled regions in Syria to Turkey. All we need now is a YouTube clip as proof.

A recording of the press conference is available below:

 

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Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:47 | 6843383 Kaiser Sousa
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slap that bitch ass U.S. poodle Vlad!

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:55 | 6843410 Occident Mortal
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Interesting Factoid:

 

There are no fewer than 20 billionaires in Turkey.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:56 | 6843414 knukles
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One of whom is the Head Honcho's son.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:59 | 6843424 Occident Mortal
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Alarmingly most of therm are self made bankers!

 

http://www.forbes.com/2007/04/13/turkey-40-richest-cz_fs_0413richturks_s...

 

Check them out.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:10 | 6843454 ZerOhead
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Perhaps Putin and Hollande could sing a duet...

Putin is a "triple threat" in that he can sing, play the piano, as well as bomb. Enjoy Putin's rendition of "Blueberry Hill" for the Hollywood Luciferians. (Notice all of the famous faces in the crowd)

Singing PM: 'Fats' Putin over the top of 'Blueberry Hill' with piano solo - YouTube

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:14 | 6843471 Latina Lover
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With Putin squeezing his balls, Erdogan could make a trio, singing alto falsetto.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:18 | 6843484 ZerOhead
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ISIS crISIS not so nISIS

Putin Erdo's balls in vISIS

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:52 | 6843714 Surviver22
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It's the greatest threat global security has ever faced.

All the weapons in the world won't matter once ISIS army kick into gear!

http://goo.gl/lBRD5v

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 18:32 | 6843783 ZerOhead
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< Putin will flip COP21 the bird

< Putin will sign onto the Globalists Warming agreement

After Global Warming that is.

Hey... I wonder what Putin is going to do at the COP21 in Paris?

Will he stick to his opinion that Global Warming is a fraud or will he sign on the Globalists dotted line that will then create a World Climate Tribunal and carbon control system?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:37 | 6843687 Luc X. Ifer
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Russian young people appeal to the world

https://youtu.be/VelRYSPYVIo

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:10 | 6843455 nnnnnn
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putin got the black belt   even with 60 he can take out stupid hollanfag with a single hit

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 21:18 | 6844091 tired1
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FWY: judoka's dont hit, as a rule. The idea is to take the opponent to the ground force him to submit. It's like a boa constrictor that slowly suffocates its' prey.
Every time the rabbit (or humnan) moves the snake tightens its' grip.

This might help in understanding how Putin moves.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:15 | 6843462 Latina Lover
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Turkey is a NATO member, but the idea that the Europeans would fight Russia to help Turkey is laughable. If there is a country and people more hated by the Western Europeans than Turkey, please let me know. Most europeans would cheer if Putin bombed them into the stone age.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:15 | 6843478 ZerOhead
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Really?

I mean it IS laughable unless of course Putin is a globalist and is IN on the whole WW3 thingee...

http://redefininggod.com/2015/11/lets-cut-the-crap-vladimir-putin-is-hel...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:21 | 6843645 ThirdWorldDude
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That is a pretty one-sided analisys out of at least a several reasons:

- That was Putin's rookie presidential term in a time when the iron grip of Anglo-Zionism was still on Russia's throat;

- Russia was thus still too weak internally and disconnected externally (remember the times when Russia was an active member of ZATO's "Partnership for Peace"? Yeah, good times...) to be able to stand against the undisputed global hegemon;

- Unfortunately, people forget history too fast because what is happening now is analogous to what happened some 80 years ago, only this time the guy that's cleaning up the joint is not the same one that created the mess in the first place... 

. On top of it all you have Russian mentality demonstrated too many times throughout history: they tend to keep to themselves and not meddle in other people's and countries' internal affairs until their personal/national interest is put in danger. Otherwise called 'poking the Bear'.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:33 | 6843677 Blankone
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Putin was not a rookie.  He was in the business of internaitonal politics and intelligence.

Stop the excuses and pay attention to what his actions have been.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 18:44 | 6843805 ZerOhead
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And who his good friends are... most notably Henry Kissinger from the early 1990's...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/world/europe/henry-kissinger-to-meet-w...

 

Quite a coincidence that Kissinger's driver and good friend becomes the head of Russia. Some might think that a relationship like that could be a security risk of sorts... you know those silly conspiracy theorists! :)

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 20:24 | 6844006 actionjacksonbrownie
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With Putin teaming up with europe to "fight isis", even though europe is without a doubt in bed with u.s./israhell, I am inclined to believe you are correct when you say Putin is just an actor in a play here. He could have very easily deployed his s400 missiles in Syria after the shootdown, and declared Syria a no fly zone. No one could have challenged him, and he could have continued clearing the terrorists from Syria. Now, with his "coalition", isis and other terrorists are going to get an easy ride, and it will be Assad getting stabbed in the back in due time. Watch for a new travel route for illicit oil that falls under u.s. targeting, and watch how quickly erdogan gets the spice flowing once again. And watch the MIC rake in the profits replacing all those bombs and missiles that fall on empty buildings and open desert.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 18:54 | 6843796 ZerOhead
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Poking the bear? So Putin is an honest nationalist?

You have been imbibing the globalists 'kool aid"'again

10 Things You Should Know About Vladimir Putin - YouTube

 

Anyway there can be no question about Vlad's generosity... buying his former German teacher an apartment in Tel Aviv was a very nice thing to do considering his meagre salary...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4504539,00.html

 

Again... watch the performing globalist bear sing to his Hollywood friends...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5AjzQhr6Bc

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 19:10 | 6843850 ThirdWorldDude
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I don't know Putin personally and I cannot attest for his traits and beliefs. My judgement is a result of actual facts and deeds on the chessboard, not a video about Putin's $50 million in a Swiss bank account. 

But I'm not denying that I might be wrong and neither can you. The truth usually lies somewhere in between, only time will determine its actual position.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 19:33 | 6843885 ZerOhead
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There is NO in between

He is either a NWO Globalist or he is not. He supports the IMF-SDR in becoming the new global(ist) currency as well as having Rockefellers UN become the World Government.

That IS the definition of a GLOBALIST.

Hey I was in general agreement the with Putin crowd here for years as anyone here can attest.

I am simply telling you he isn't who you think he is...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:45 | 6843553 TheFutureIsThePast
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If Turkey is attacked and the rest of NATO doesn't come to their aid, the alliance falls apart. It's "all or none", not "all except that one country because of our petty hatred"

The European's opinions on Turkey or any other NATO country don't matter. At all. If the Masters tell NATO to go to war then they'll go to war, and they'll do it with a smile on their face. Propaganda will make sure of that.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:55 | 6843572 Urban Redneck
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Europe attacking Russia might likely result in the obliteration of Europe in a nuclear holocaust.

There would not be unanimity for such a course of action in the Atlantic Council.

That wouldn't stop certain psychopath member states (such as the USSA or UK) from military action in the guise of NATO and claiming to invoke Article V, built it would not actually be a NATO action.

So yes, the alliance would fall apart.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 18:01 | 6843728 Wile-E-Coyote
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No; NATO will only come to Turkey's aid if it was attacked by Russia first, an aggressive act of war. Turkey commited the act of war so it is on it's own.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 22:06 | 6844199 KUDIN
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During WWII Bulgaria was on the side of Germany . In 1943 Hitler asked Bulgaria to send army to the Eastern Front . The People , the King and the government refused . The King ( Boris ) was poisoned , but NO Bulgarian soldier went against Russia .

We , the People may not have much power nowadays , but everyone would think twice before going to war against the only hope we have to not start WWIII .

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:13 | 6843468 knukles
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That's serously funny;  "Self-Made Banker"

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:18 | 6843485 Occident Mortal
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Exactly!

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:56 | 6843578 Herd Redirectio...
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If someone would lend me $1 billion dollars at 0.25% I could be a self-made billionaire as well!

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:55 | 6843411 knukles
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Chuck Norris and Vlad must be worried now!

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:11 | 6843620 Blankone
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From kaiser:  "slap that bitch ass U.S. poodle Vlad!"

Try rereading the article.  Putin is taking it.  He coordinates and gets approval for areas he can bomb.  He makes sure not to present any resistance to NATO.  He wimpers about how Turkey shot down his plane.  Until now he was so afraid of NATO disapproval he never even deployed the S400 - because he wanted to make it clear the defense of his forces was secondary to even giving the perception Russia would defend against NATO.

Is this the scary Putin his fans warned to never poke.  Putin is getting poked but good.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 20:24 | 6844003 Max Steel
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Someone should tell him, in the West we put our feet on Ottomans.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:47 | 6843385 chunga
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Hollande has to check with Jack Lew first.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:58 | 6843419 researchfix
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Look at the crossed eyes of that Holland guy.

Too much for a soft elite French pupil.

Calls himself Socialist. What a fucking joke.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:31 | 6843518 WTFUD
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Lew is in Soros's pocket.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:51 | 6843395 zeroboris
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"will France gravitate closer toward Moscow?"

"Assad can not play a role in Syrian future"

Obviously, will not.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:14 | 6843470 California Nigh...
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In private, Hollande to Vlad:  " This Asad nonsense is just for the press in the USA. Syria is all yours. Do whatever the fuck you want. We don't care. Fuck the USA."

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:59 | 6843725 Charming Anarchist
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Vlad back to Hollande:  "It had better be.  Take a look at these photos we have on you." 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 22:22 | 6844244 mkkby
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Exactly, french have always been 2 faced.  Tell the US Assad must go.  Tell Vlad who gives a shit.  Only thing true is when they are waving white flags and running in panic.

Never forget Vichy.

Fri, 11/27/2015 - 21:28 | 6848031 So It Goes
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Yah, Ok.

But the wine and the food.......

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:56 | 6843417 divedivedive
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Ever since the 'terrorist' attacks in Paris - France/Hollande seem to have assumed the role of global coalition organizer. 

Is it natural to grow more cynical as we grow older ?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:09 | 6843450 knukles
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Yes

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:50 | 6843699 actionjacksonbrownie
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Oh, he's a coalition organizer alright. He's doing his level best to get as many countries as possible flying non-sorties over Syria - just like the u.s. has been doing for more than a year. That, in turn, will keep Russian planes and missles away from "sensitive" targets (read: assets) that u.s and israhell would rather NOT be blown to oblivion. More coalition planes in the sky = less Russian planes in the sky.

 

Putin is a fool to go along with this charade.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 18:44 | 6843809 ThirdWorldDude
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In diplomacy you have to keep appearances, it's the most important part of the protocol. What one really thinks and believes is rarely put on the Joint Statement...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 20:09 | 6843974 Dinero D. Profit
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Also, in diplomacy once you make a statement intended to decieve, you have to stick to the deception no matter how absurd.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:05 | 6843592 Spiritof42
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Is it natural to grow more cynical as we grow older ?

It goes in stages. When I was in my teens, I believed freedom was commonly more desireable than tyranny. By my forties, I could see I was always going to be in a small minority. By my sixties, I could see that this was going to end badly.

When I was young, I doubted my intelligence and perception. It took a long time and a lot of reading to grasp that for the large part of the human population, adults still think on the level of children. It wasn't me.

The ugliness and decay doesn't cause me stress because I can't change it. Instead I manage to keep as much distance from it as I can. And I make sure to set aside time every day to focuse on the beautiful side of life.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:28 | 6843663 Kirk2NCC1701
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Its simpler than that: MICs and Energy cartels always gravitate toward the next piece of Action.

If the shoe fits...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 15:57 | 6843421 Bay of Pigs
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Fuck me. Hollande is a first class pussy and a two faced son of a bitch.

The French should be ashamed to have this guy leading their country.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:10 | 6843457 ManTheMan
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"The French should be ashamed to have this guy leading their country"

Yes I am, as much as of his predecessor and the one even before.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:25 | 6843498 TBT or not TBT
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Thats a lot of shame stacking up. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:20 | 6843647 knukles
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Hah!  Both sides the Atlantic!
Humanity is in Great Shape

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:16 | 6843633 _ConanTheLibert...
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From memory: Sarkozy, Chirac, Mitterand?

Fri, 11/27/2015 - 04:53 | 6844908 ManTheMan
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Good memory. One has to go back to de Gaulle to find a pres. that did not look like a pussy. Not that I worship the guy but he was serving France. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:58 | 6843480 Yen Cross
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France’s 75 Percent Tax Rate Offers a Lesson in Revenue Estimating | Tax Foundation

 

 Hollande, is the equivalent of an elected Bernie Sanders. The  NEO-leftwing , "do as I say, but not as I do", micro sensitive assclowns are laughable.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:18 | 6843483 Footprint
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Many are...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:19 | 6843488 Rip van Wrinkle
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I think you'll find they are ashamed.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:35 | 6843530 TheSheepWolf
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If he is a first class pussy, what is Merkel then?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:24 | 6843654 knukles
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Angela is a pure Dominatrix. 
She makes him get on his knees, bound, and stare at her upper most inner white as snow, smooth as a baby's butt thighs, never been touched by the hand of man for 50 years.
In pure ecstasy, he kneels, weeping at her feet, pledging to do Her bidding for another glimpse, much later.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:06 | 6843436 One And Only
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Can someone tell me why Assad is so vehemently despised? 

They say he's a "brutal" dictator that bombs his own people? But are the people in reference ISIS or ISIS supporters?

Is Assad more brutal or ISIS? Because it takes a brutal dictator to stamp out ISIS, plain and simple. You can't beat ISIS with love, caring, and affection. You don't send them care packages and promises of multicultural utopia in the hopes they stop burning people alive in cages, drowning people in cages, and committing acts of genocide.

People of the world need to put this situation into perspective.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:13 | 6843469 HowdyDoody
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The reason he is 'evil' is quite simply stated. He stands in the way of Israeli/US/Turkish ambitions.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:07 | 6843607 TahoeBilly2012
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Fake, phoney "leaders" like Obama need to be able to regime change any country their puppet masters please and install yet more fake, phoney leaders. Can't have any real ones!

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:17 | 6843482 chunga
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That's a really great question. I don't know a whole lot about the guy, but I have a hunch the bottom line is USSA has a desire to exploit Syria with all it's little vassals going along for the ride.

Another thing going on is Syria and Russia are allies and these days we're told, Russia is a big troublemaker. So anything USSA can do to fuck with Russia is on the table. It's not comforting to see them provoked all the time because of all the nukes they have at their disposal should they get pushed too far.

If the Russians were arming and training "opposition" in say,,,Mexico or Canada I'd feel differently. But they're not.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:22 | 6843492 koncaswatch
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You're distracted. Assad is despised by whom? One of the key pieces in this puzzle is the Assad protection of Gazprom's almost monopoly in supplying Europe with energy. His repeated blocking of the Qatar pipline; follow the money.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:33 | 6843525 TheSheepWolf
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Right.... Follow the money always works

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:39 | 6843684 Bioscale
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If you ask people in Europe if they are fine with russian oil and gas, they will tell you hell yes. Russians are reliable energy and technology supplier. They don't bomb you, don't spy on you, don't do dirty deals with foreign mafia against you. Good luck with Quatar, SA, Turkey and the big asshole in the class, the US managed through UK and Israel.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 20:39 | 6844031 o r c k
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US "leaders" and their loyal press always say that Assad gasses his own people. He didn't. The US did.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:25 | 6843500 California Nigh...
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The US interest in Syria has some practical foundation, however poorly conceived. (Oil transit?) The USA has never given two shits about brutality of overseas dictators, and it never will.

But our neocons, long insinuated in the Defense and State dapartments, are willing to see the US risk large scale war over this.

Obama is too weak a president to resist their momentum.

Consider that a few EMP nukes could mean it's lights out in the USA - perhaps forever. We wouldn't even know who hit us. Capable world powers would immediately deny involvement and offer to help us turn the lights back on, so to speak.

If the lights ever do come on, 90% of us Americans will already have been long dead. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 18:41 | 6843804 Uchtdorf
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I upvoted you. Agree with your points except for the part about knowing who hit us. The sheeple might not know, but someone in the US would know.

The world powers who help us afterwards will do so with the implicit understanding of helping themselves to our resources. You know, kinda like America does so blatantly in other countries today...because we're America...because we can. And those ingrates hate us for our freedoms. (sarc...as if writing sarc is really even necessary)

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:03 | 6843594 Mena Arkansas
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Things make more sense when you understand that according to the 2,000 y.o. legally-accepted documentation God promised 2/3 of Syria to the Chosenites™ and they want it back. Ergo - Assad Has to Go™. Every major event beginning with 9/11 should be viewed through this lens.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

http://nonalignedmedia.com/2015/08/the-isis-conspiracy-origins-part-1/

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:07 | 6843609 margincall575
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http://beforeitsnews.com/terrorism/2015/11/its-not-blacks-its-not-muslim...

spend an hour here and youll know everything you need to. And wont be anything your told. Trust me on that !!

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:05 | 6843437 nnnnnn
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usa do a poop in syria and russia have to clean it up, while being critized internationally and even attacked by criminal erdogay

 

western world has fallen so low losing all of its values and rationality in nearly every point

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 19:25 | 6843876 gezley
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People in the increasingly God-hating western world don't seem to understand that there cannot be reason without God. There cannot be room for reason in a universe with a wholly naturalist explanation, since it would be an accident in such a universe, occurring by chance and not by intention. Reason can only exist in a universe with a supernatural explanation. That is why it is no surprise to me to find the atheist western world of the 21st century spiralling out of control. Without God, there is not and cannot be any rationality whatsoever.

 

Expect things to get a whole lot worse before they get better.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 20:22 | 6843998 Dinero D. Profit
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Are you preaching about the flawed-god invented by the early Hebrews?  That one?  Its goofy.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 20:29 | 6844015 gezley
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No. I'm making the point that rationality is always the first casualty of atheism. If there's no God then human cognition is an accident, since it occurs in a world without purpose and intention. Reason can be reason only where there is purpose and intention.

 

The more the western world descends into godlessness the more it will descend into literal insanity. Mind is from God, and if you deny God then you are pulling the rug out from under your own feet, by denying the only grounds you have for believing in your own rationality.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:39 | 6843439 Demdere
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I don't think that anyone can predict much in any situation, but this one is especially complicated.

Erdogan's being massively on the take via ISIS oil exports and massively funding and supplying ISIS really puts a different light on the situation.  The US has allowed that as their part of the anti-Assad campaign.  The Israelis apparently profit via Kurdish oil.

Now the idiots in ISIS take the religious idiocy seriously and bomb Paris.  Does that help ISIS?  Maybe, perhaps they needed an injection of fresh jihadis from Europe or the ME, they burn through them at a hell of a rate. They had been losing campaigns of late, also, maybe needed to rehabilitate their image.  But it was unwise in terms of their income.  Destroying 1000 trucks via bombs and fighter-bomber guns and missiles and bombs must have been expensive for Erdogan and son.  The CIA probably fronted them the $, of course, as part of the anti-Assad campaign.

But it sure wasn't a good move for Turkey, the US, Saudis, Israelis, etc. Look at the firestorm of attention on ISIS funding and FUBARed Israeli-neocon foreign policy.  There are even signs that American devoutly anti-Muslim folks are wising up about what the problem is here.  Not good for Israeli-neocon foreign policy, for sure. I don't think support for those positions picked up as a result of the Paris events or the continuing excitement in Belgium.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/09/oil-is-the-excuse/

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/measures-of-propagandas-ef...

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/07/31/just-to-summarize-to-this-...

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:26 | 6843660 actionjacksonbrownie
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If you take at face value that isis is a u.s./israhell creation, then the bombing of Paris has nothing to do with religion.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:12 | 6843443 trader1
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Putin:

No evidence indicates that Turkish authorities are destroying the industrial amounts of oil smuggled from IS-controlled territory that enters Turkey.  

Turkish people must decide for themselves if Erdogan should resign under the current circumstances.

Turkish authorities have no reason to claim that they did not know the origins of the fighter jet it shot down, because Turkey is a member of the coalition that is led by the United States, with whom Russia has shared the information concerning flight mission paths.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:06 | 6843444 socalbeach
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Putin: "We don't see any smoke"

when asked about Turkey claiming they would (or have) destroy(ed) the massive amounts of oil coming into Turkey from Syria.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:11 | 6843459 Yen Cross
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  I guarin-fukin-T Putin reads Zero Hedge... Hollande is a farce wrapped in a shit stained NATO blanket.

 Putin is clearly using restraint, and the socialist Hollande, is a fucking NATO puppet.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:25 | 6843501 knukles
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Hollande identifies as a common man ....

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02442864?no-access=true

Kinda like Rachel Dolezal .....
But we got LaBammy to represent the Rachel Crowd, so it's all covered.

Man, shit's fucked up

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:38 | 6843531 Yen Cross
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   This guy is a serious problem... Recep Tayyip Erdogan... He's an egotistical self centered megalomaniac.

If he defines "moderate", NATO just shot themselves in the ass...  The recent Turkish elections were all but rigged!

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:46 | 6843556 knukles
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Oh yeah!  Was a nightmare PR wise all across the western press, no less.
On a better note, staring to see more about this whole miasma in the fringes of the MSM now, so the "truth" (Whatever that could be) seems to be spreading.
Methinks NATO just shot themselves in the arse regardless of "moderation"
The thin facade, the veneer of respectability is peeling way rather quickly ... and I do not mean with us.
Sad part is the unrefined level of personal engagements within the Dialectic remain intact.  Left and Right arguing for the sake of ego satisfaction over the pointless and immaterial, myriad of straw-men, etc.

                                              Now, about renaming those Freedom Fires in the Senate Dining Room

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:11 | 6843460 Dark Daze
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On top of the French, the Chinese, the Ameicans and the Russians, Britain and Germany now want to send MORE planes to Syria. This simply isn't required for a country that is barely 380 miles wide at it's widest point. i can't imagine so many planes trying to conduct operations in so small a space. What IS needed is for someone to tell the Turks, the Saudis and the Qatari's to go take a flying fuck. Unfortunately, it will not be Obama who does that. But one things is for sure, there can be NO Sunni caliphate, of any size, in eastern Syria. It would pose a never ending danger to the Kurds, the Armenians and the Azeris. Maybe they should go to the Arabian peninsula and try making one there.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:15 | 6843475 dsty
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Oh, there will be a Caliphate, a big one

France and Russia have a long history

Perhaps France and Russia have  a plan re the US

Duduman could be right.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:12 | 6843464 will ling
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what's w/vlad? nearest turk airbase, hopefully with F-16s on it, should've been pasted within hours of the shootdown.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:15 | 6843477 Bay of Pigs
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Putin absolutely bitch slapping Turkey over the ISIS oil link. Makes the US/France and all of NATO look like a bunch of liars and inept buffoons for allowing that to happen. Then Hollande dodges the question altogether, refusing to even acknowledge that it has been going on. He's such a coward.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:26 | 6843487 HowdyDoody
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The Russians and Syrians have pounded the area where the Su-24 pilot was executed for 8 hours.

An example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSlwrlHLlnE

They claim to have killed at least 3 top ISIS stooges, Turkman General Rashid Bagdash, coordinator of actions of the Turks in the destruction of the Su-24, Abu Basir al-Brittany (a British member of al Nusra) and Abu Salim, the leader of the First Coastal Division.

https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/www.e-news.su/in-world/86540-uty...

Bring in the TOS-1A's.

Edit: There are rumors that Cyprus citizens want Russia to have a temporary airbase in Cyprus (EU member, but not NATO). Cypriot Orthodox people are collecting signatures to request such basing. It probably will go nowhere - we can't have ordinary people actually influencing politics, can we? - but it's a nice thought.

https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/www.e-news.su/in-world/86578-su-...

 


Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:27 | 6843506 TheSheepWolf
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An example? Not really. The 1st one an old footage. Saw it some weeks ago... Sry dude

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:25 | 6843502 Ouagadoudou
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Carefully mister Putin, your way to the sun is too easy by exposing western lies. Keep your head cool and aim for the best of all mankind. It's a tough task when u are a man of power. 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:26 | 6843503 earleflorida
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'France says UK airforce needed in Syria to raise pressure on ISIS'        *over a century ago, or perhaps right to the exact day the French and English bifurcated the Ottoman Empire into what is now [?] ISIL`the Frankenstien' ([Levant/ Mesopotamia: the Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq][which at the tyme Kuwait was included as part-n-parcel, Iraqi territory and always was, but the location of port-o-call was just to much for the British to debate at the moment for obvious reasons?]) 

so here we are agian!

the british are coming and the slimey french whom by the way,... both have made a bloodbath of MENA and all of Africa via their colonialization and butchery!

http://www.stripes.com/news/sykes-picot-agreement-line-in-the-sand-still-shapes-middle-east-1.289723

http://dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2015/Nov-26/324787-france-says-uk-air-force-needed-in-syria-to-raise-pressure-on-isis.ashx

Note: they all smell the end and the trillion dollar reconstruction of the countries infrastructure saying it was the European's help that made it happen in the end...

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:35 | 6843527 bigbwana
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The Galactic Federation, representatives of God who simply cannot lie, confirm we really do live in a Matrix controlled by the Dark. Since the fall of Atlantis, 26,000 yrs ago, the Annunaki have held all Souls on this planet, captive. We ‘die’ only to reincarnate back on Gaia/Earth as their slaves. Imagine the technology they must have to do something like that! The Dark knew their demise would be hastened with the invention of the Internet. They were right and subsequently surrendered. Left behind are the evil, greedy Zionists, all mind-controlled by the Archons/Dracos, who also knew they could never defeat God and the GF. Not to mention 7 billions Souls, every last one filled with LOVE. This terrifies them. Truly. Once the masses awaken, the Matrix will disintegrate in an instant. The deranged Zionists, in anticipation of their unavoidable defeat, planted bombs in virtually every major city. Taken them years, but the GF has managed to disarm 99%. All nuclear weapons were disarmed years ago. Thanks be to God. Plenty of websites about the Galactic Federation. Goldenageofgaia, run by Steve Bercow, a 69yr-old Canadian in Vancouver, is one of the best.  Not long now. Peace and Abundance will be ours. It is the will of God.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:42 | 6843545 Herdee
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It's good that Americans are finally waking up to the fact that the U.S. Government openly allies itself with Sunni extremists such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia.Both supply arms,training and finance to ISIL and Al Qeada.Al Qeada has been linked to 911 through Saudi Arabia.This is the Government of the United States on the same side as terrorists,plain and simple.And the CIA is behind false-flag attacks,they have a documented history of doing this.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:42 | 6843547 WTFUD
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They hate Assad because he respects the Jews, Christians, Sunnis and Shiites.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:47 | 6843557 nnnnnn
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they hate assad because he is not obeying their orders

they need a "leader" who suck on their dicks   like erdogay

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 16:44 | 6843551 krage_man
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Everyone got the hint from Putin?

The only acceptable way out for Turkey is Erdogan leaving the office

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:02 | 6843588 SharkBit
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Where is the USSA regime change unit when you need it.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:01 | 6843587 ross81
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is a little strange Putin is doing a joint conference with this prick especially after the Mistral scandal which should prove beyond doubt the duplicitous nature of the Parisian regime.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:33 | 6843676 Oldrepublic
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France’s Quai d’Orsay is but a branch of Washington’s foggy bottom, it even shares the 202 area code!

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 18:43 | 6843808 smacker
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Agreed. The way Western "leaders" have treated Putin/Russia over the last coupla years, I'm surprised he speaks to any of them. False allegations against him/Russia over MH-17 come to mind.

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:03 | 6843595 Noplebian
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WW3 – Turkey/ISIS/Russia – The Countdown Has Begun

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...

 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:05 | 6843600 socalbeach
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Link to press conference video in case you missed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwLNDXuU2Zg#t=0m30s

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:12 | 6843622 me or you
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Hollande has gained some weight I wonder if he's taking hormons.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:12 | 6843623 jm
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Tyler, stop taking bribes from Putina and get báck to reporting on finance. He.has enough fluffers as it is.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 20:36 | 6844026 Max Steel
Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:17 | 6843637 Inthemix96
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50 Shades of Grey my friends, you know how I frequently point out everything you ever knew or held dear was a lie?

What more do you want?  You think Mr Putin as much as he seems a genuine bloke to solve your insurmountable problems?

The six headed hydra sits and smiles.

Its a game most cannot even fathom, and neither you nor I are invited.

Do you Stand-Under?

Direct your anger, and by fucking Jove himself, is the fucker ever warranted, at the correct target folks.

You have just been 'Played', and there is nothing more humiliating finding owt, that yes indeed, what you thought you knew, you fucking didnt.

;-)

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:48 | 6843707 Spiritof42
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You think Mr Putin as much as he seems a genuine bloke to solve your insurmountable problems?

I don't know anybody who thinks that. He's the enemy of my enemy, the USA government. Whether it is Putin or somebody else, I always root for the other side.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 18:15 | 6843760 Inthemix96
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You must know folk just like me Spirit Of 42.

Lets see just how clever the likes of Hollande, Cameron, Obama, Erdogan etc are when they and all those close to them are sent owt by public violence to uphold the values they themselves seem fit for the likes of you and ours.

And Mr Putin just happens to be in the same boat as the dirty child molesting bastards that would see you die, so that they can continue doing whatever the fuck HrM deems relevant.

I dont even get the whole jist myself at times, but we are ruled by something that thinks it can just do whatever it wants, us lot fight and die for it, and they walk away with the spoils of whatever they gained.

They should never have put banking on the web, cos the inbred cunts cant now turn it off.

Keep doing whatever you do 42, nothing but the best regards to all those who 'Bank' here.

:-)

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:37 | 6843685 Fuku Ben
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Very disappointing since they're going to stick with 2 CEO's working separately instead of all working together with common goals and objectives. Corporations run with 2 CEO's don't succeed and this won't either. Although those corporations aren't shooting and blowing things up. This setback increases the risk of things going bad either purposefully or by accident. And then for the possibility of escalations from there.

"The dual-leader setup is rare for a reason. It “causes conflict,” results in “negative performance by teams,” and gives the two leaders “hostile mindsets” - Prof. Lindred Greer Stanford Graduate School of Business.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 17:50 | 6843708 Neochrome
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Assad must go but Jihadi Erdogan who is slaughtering Kurds wholesale is just fine?

Honestly, does anyone can say with a straight face that any group in Syria was mistreated by Assad worse than what is Turkey doing to Kurds, and that is including what is Erdogan doing to Kurds in Syria and Iraq?

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 18:46 | 6843812 gezley
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55 people to be executed by beheading in Saudi Arabia soon.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34931205

 

Please note that the British Parliament will not be taking a vote to authorise Riyadh airstrikes in response, because, well, "the Saudis are our friends".

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 19:40 | 6843909 smacker
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Saudi Arabian dictators are inbred sub-human savages, starting with the slimeball king salman.

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 19:59 | 6843953 earleflorida
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beheading, firing squad, lethal injection, electric chair, kevorkianized, hangings, poison'd, or whatever...

it's the crime that matters.

all these people probably deserve capital punishment, but its the 25% that are beheaded for looking at the saudi religious police cross-eyed. their fucking flintstone 'blasphemy laws' warp'd`in rabid-wahhabi`sharia. dating as far back as the roman`catholic crusades, which, btw is always being rebranded and morphizied via the ?4th? world economy's soon to reach the ache`horn'detritus of carthaginian aboriginals

saudi's are responsible for '911', and yet we are as corrupt and rotten to the core as they`em'r, except... for the fact that america's elitist propagada machines having never to seize-up 24/7/365!  this has stopped-out the plebians from critical thinking by creating a future that forever lives in the past grandeur of false hopes.

fuck, we'll still be talking '911' twenty years from now as if it happened yesterday  

so think twice about beheadings in the arab countries. perhaps a few heads lopp'd`off on wall street would have done sum? good, or...???

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 20:04 | 6843966 me or you
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Wow! Western MSM is silent on these accusations against Erdogan 

Thu, 11/26/2015 - 20:12 | 6843977 mijev
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I'd love for any reporter who still has balls to ask Hollande, obama or any of the other corrupt nato fucks exactly why it is they're so deperate to see Assad go and then take them to task over their bs answers. Last time I checked syria is a sovereign state, the last remaining secular state in the middle east, has a non-BIS controlled central bank, is extremely strategic for the future of oil and natural gas routes which russia benefits from, and can still lay legitimate claim to the golan heights which israel depsperately and criminally wants to be legally recognized as its own. Anyone of these reasons (threats) is enough to piss off nato.

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