This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
Putin Accuses Obama Of Leaking Flight Details To Turkey After Russia Releases Video Of S-400 SAM Deployment In Syria
As reported two days ago, one of the first decisions a very angry Russia took in the aftermath of the shooting down of its Su-24 by a Turkish F-16 was to dispatch a Moskva guided-missile cruiser off the coast of Syria to provide air cover for its jets operating near Latakia, as well as send an unknown number of ultramodern S-400 (or SA-21 Growler in NATO designation) SAM batteries to Latakia to make sure that the tragic incident from Tuesday never repeats itself by sending Turkey a very clear message that the next time a Turkish warplane engages a Russian jet, Russia will immediate retaliate using ground forces.
Earlier today, Russia made a very explicit demonstration of the deployment of at least two S-400 batteries at Syria's Khmeimim airbase, with the Russian Ministry of Defense promptly publicizing the arrival with the following clip.
With a range of 250 miles, the S-400 could easily strike Turkish targets, and as the map below shows, Russia could even take down targets over northern Israel. As cited by the Independent, Nick de Larrinaga, Europe editor of the defense magazine IHS Jane’s Defense Weekly, said it would be “a significant increase” in the reach of Russian air-defense capacities. “The message that the Russians are trying to send is that they’re capable of defending themselves in Syria, should the situation escalate."
Needless to say, the US was not enthused and earlier today the US embassy in Moscow said that the "Russian deployment of the S-400 air-defense system to Syria won't aid the fight against the Islamic State, with the US diplomat adding that the US is hopeful Russia won’t use the system to target planes flown by international coalition since Islamic State doesn’t have air force." Clearly a warning to Putin not to dare use the rockets against Turkish (or other coalition) jets.
So what is Putin's intention by escalating the military deployment of Russian weapons in Syria? Conveniently he explained his thinking just a few hours ago during his press conference with Francois Hollande. In answering a question by a reporter from French Le Monde, Putin said the following:
"The S-400 is an air defense system. The reason we didn't have the system in Syria is because we thought our planes were flying at high enough altitudes where a terrorist could not reach them; they don't have weapons capable of downing our planes at the altitude of over 3 or 4 thousand meters. And We could never think that we could be stabbed in the back by a country we regarded as our ally. Our planes operated at altitudes of 5-6,000 meters and were completely unprotected against potential attacks from fighter jets - we could never imagine that that could be possible otherwise we would deploy such systems in the area protecting our bombers against possible attacks."
...
"We never did it because we regarded Turkey as our friend, we never expected an attack from that side. This is why we regard this attack as that of a traitor. But now we that this is possible, and we have to protect our planes. This is why we deployed a modern system, the S-400, it has a pretty long range and it's one of the most effective systems of this kind in the world. We will not stop there: if we have to we will also deploy our fighter jets in the area."
Bottom line: another direct engagement by a Turkish fighter will be its last, and in fact now that Russia is prepared we would not be at all surprised to see Russia cross into Turkish airspace on purpose just to provoke Erdogan to repeat the events from last week, only this time with the Russian ready and prepared to retaliate to any engagement. In fact, the odds of Russia doing just that in the next few days are especially high.
But while the reason behind the S-400 deployment was largely known to most, where Putin's press conference took an unexpected detour was what he said just around 20:30 in, when in not so many words, Putin effectively accused the US of leaking the coordinates of the Russian plane to Turkey, which was merely a hitman acting with the blessing of the Pentagon.
This is what Putin said:
"We told our US partners in advance where, when at what altitudes our pilots were going to operate. The US-led coalition, which includes Turkey, was aware of the time and place where our planes would operate. And this is exactly where and when we were attacked. Why did we share this information with the Americans? Either they don't control their allies, or they just pass this information left and right without realizing what the consequences of such actions might be. We will have to have a serious talk with our US partners.
In other words, just like in the tragic bombing of the Kunduz hospital by US forces (which has now been attributed to human error), so this time the target was a Russian plane which the US knew about well in advance, was targeted however not by the US itself, but by a NATO and US-alliance member, Turkey.
And while the deployment of the Russian SAM missiles was already known, the real message from today's presser, the one that will be the topic of a private and "serious talk with Russia's US partners", is that Putin indirectly blames Obama for what happened on Tuesday realizing that Erdogan was merely the "executor", one who is simply motivated to protect his (and his son's) Islamic State oil routes.
Full press conference below; the discussion of Russia's S-400 deployment begins 17:30 in:
»
- 3788 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
- advertisements -
Thank God for Putin, the leader of the Free World!
Exactly! Mr. Putin, light up those motherfuckers.
that's absolutely guaranteed to happen, the hawks in the DUMA will make sure that it does.
America gave ISIS the TOW rocket that exploded Russia's helicopter on a search and rescue mission to save the remaining pilot.
America gave Turkey the co ordinates to shoot down the Russian bomber, so Turkeys corrupt leader could continue profiting from selling oil for ISIS to fund ISIS terrorism.
Putin's patience is what keeps the world from the brink of nuclear war.
God bless and keep Vladimir Putin.
America is a piece of shit nation with a piece of shit president .
America ruins the world to rule it.
God help us all.
WELL... This Changes Things...
NOTICE... Isreal IS WITHIN range of the new misiles...
not enough of it for my taste.
when oh when will the foolish majority of u.s. citizens wake from their spectator sports version of world events and see the evil empire for what it is?
when they see the first flashes in the sky, by then though it will be to late.
i fucking hate back stabbers too.
ISIS=Israel
Israel=Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia=USA
Obama=Oprah's half sister
Reminds me of learning about the Turkish Missile Crisis, in my quaint little Naukograd...
hey lookit the range on that thing. they could take out Cyprus citizens trying to make any sizeable withdrawals!
U.S. knew Russian jet flight path: https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30212396/us-knew-flight-path-of-plane-downed...
Putin is a sad old queen who has been thoroughly humiliated. Soon he'll be crying like a woman. He's certainly no stud.
Hmmm. I take it you work for the Americans then...
The US says ISIS doesn't have an air force?
Is it April 1 already?
Turkey ,a prime supporter and enabler of ISS, just gagging to open a consulate for ISIS, shot down a Russian aircraft involved in attacking ISIS. That seems like an ISIS airforce attack to me, even if we ignore the fact that the USAF attacks Assad instead of ISIS etc.
Based on this response, it seems Putin's real aim is to separate the U.S. from the "job" of being "friends" to terrorist sponsoring countries. It seems Putin wants to expose and destroy the relationship the U.S. has with Turkey and possibly Saudi Arabia.
That's good as far as it goes, but to obtain long lasting beneficial effects, the strategy should also include the crime families that inhabit areas farther south and west. One should never allow a good crisis to go to waste.
US alies doing gods work.
https://www.rt.com/news/323615-saudi-arabia-50-executions/
Hmmm. I take it you work for the Americans then...
He's too dumb. Even the Americans would find him unacceptable.
Just getting rid of the evidence.
EEiiiiii, you will rot in hell! The real one !!!
EEiiiiii, you will rot in hell! The real one !!!
I'm honored to give you downvote no. 100
My biggest downvote goes to the criminals in DC.
I do not support the northern aggressors in any way.
Judging from that incoherent, piece of shit of a blog you keep pimping, I'd say you're the old queen attention whore.
cookie nookie
May 2015 must have been troll seeding time. You ain't gonna make it on this site, if you truly believe it's a them or us game.
Like all great fortunes the Erdogan family is trying desperately to hide their crimes.
Welcome to ZH.He can still fuck your mommy,wifey and sisters.
...The only ones with enough money in Cypriot banks are Russians.
Turkey once again demonstrated she knows just two things:
the fine art of belly dancing and bending over to uncle Sam.
http://goo.gl/EeUp0h
Sadly it will not happen. The blank stares one gets when try to raise a suspicion that the u.s. is just even complicit let alone accountable tells me the majority will never get it.
If this does blow up into full on war...those same will be there hand on heart reciting the pledge if allegiance and proudly sending their own kids to die for the USA and to protect our democratic freedoms.
There seems to be no hope...I'm questioning my own sanity!
More to the point they are completely within range of the TYPHOON CLASS BALLISTIC MISSILE SUBMARINE off the coast of Syria.
Go on you Zio cunts - play with fire - Russia double-dog dares you.
My guess is that "250 mile range" of the S400 is only for public consumption and its real range is better than that - weapon system specs are like that: there is the "advertised" range and the wartime real range.
America's narrative of fighting ISIS, instead of trying to stop an Iranian pipeline, is getting to be seen for the nursery rhyme CNN fairytale it actually is.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MGQaH3-LK54
I want to see Wolf Blitzkreg's beard parted by a TU 160 dropping some bombs on a CNN news crew.
I sure not all those talking heads at CNN talk with The One Hillary Voice.
(Wolfie has his own voices to deal with)
"America is a piece of shit nation with a piece of shit president ."
America is being guided by the hand of satan, and it's name is israhell.
You are wrong , there many against this
When Russia will be done with it, Turkey will behave like this:
http://goo.gl/ohSME8
Do you post all this porn because you are sexually useless or is it you have a very small dick so you have to watch other people having sex because you just get laugh at .
The naked avatars are bad enough. The porn... it's just lame, sad, childish, and fucked up.
Naked avatars and softcore porn have been a tradition in the comments scetion on Zero Hedge since it transferred from the wordpress site. Get over it or gtfo.
I'll bet that link carries a payload. Piss off you virus infested POS!!!
#retardslivesmatter
IMO It's an orchestrated Op to paint the site as 'toxic'.
Tyler should celebrate Thanksgiving for ALL by terminating these vandals, ASAP.
The more public, the better.
(If I see a rat outside my house I kill it before it can get inside. God forbid if it gets inside)
Yeah, it's probably a big job to weed out the constant attacks but this piece of dung has been here for almost 3 months.
if you mean there are many in israel that oppose the evil done by their government and that of the united states, i believe you. they are not doing enough there to change things as we are not doing enough here.
let's hear more from israelis who realize that the answer to donald rumsfeld's famous question about muslim terrorists: "are we are making more of them than we are killing?" is yes.
There exist Jewish groups who are openly critical of Israel's foreign policy (especially as pertaining to Israel's behavior in the occupied Palestinian territories), but they are largely ostracized and ignored by Western media.
What do you mean by Western media?
That may be more a result of who owns said "Western Media".
There is agenda to peddle, and money to be made. Impartial "journalism" is rarer than the proverbial Hen's Teeth nowadays.
If Western media outlets wish to remain socially relevant and keep their business models profitable, they are well advised to take into account shifting demographics, and cease to cater primarily to a shrinking base of upper-middle class whites of Anglo-Saxxon descent.
This holds especially true with regards to female beauty standards.
Just because you have an African wife doesn't mean western media needs to change its beauty standards.
#BlackWivesMatter! ;-)
They don't care Magnus. It's a loss leader. They are not willingly going to put down the propaganda bullhorn. Not for "profits", that's for sure. They'll just print more.
...and seemingly completely politically impotent. Funny about that. No power without support. The Zios have all the power.
In the West we put that down to mind control techniques and the stupidity of the masses.
Not giving the Israelites that leeway.
Americans have the same situation with our murderous "leaders". Short of revo;lution, there is nothing we can do. Letters, emails and protests don't work.
Hey!!!
Stop calling Obama a piece of shit! This is disrespectful to me and the rest of my kind!
Sincerely,
Shit.
yes.
the families of ted bundy and john wayne gacy also feel the same way when obama is referred to as a monster.
LOL!
Love the handle.
I gave you an uppy just for that.
Russian MOD briefing on the rescue of the navigator, and other subjects. Terrorists and "other mysterious groups" with "special purpose locators" to find the pilot were eliminated by Russian airstrikes and Syrian artillery. "Western" special forces maybe? It looks like the shootdown was a planned ambush, and they were trying to capture a Russian pilot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdtQpfwOoSg
Fantastic video footage socal. For sure the western recruitment of these radicalised scum will take a major hit.
I thought this one was funny as well.....
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30178705/suspected-isis-recruiter-bombed-dur...
.........wonder who sent that calling card /smirk
Directly from the troll house
paint others as trolls ( Ever thought why West MSM never reported on CIA disinfo agent
and State Deptt of US trolls , do you think they don't exist? Ha! They do but western
censor media is not allowed to report it even rest Google browser being american will
flash non-usa troll msm articles first.
Western Media is a Troll Army
"Putin's patience is what keeps the world from the brink of nuclear war."
Patience is an exhaustible virtue
Re: "the hawks in the DUMA"
I don't know who the hawks in the Duma are, but it strikes me that people such as Alexander Karelin (committee on international affairs) aren't the type to back down or do something stupid.
Let's get ready to Ruuuuuumble
is it time for sum action?
"We will not stop there: if we have to we will also deploy our fighter jets in the area."
Life in Crimea 20 months after reunification with Russia … by Auslander http://thesaker.is/life-in-crimea-20-months-after-reunification-with-rus... FYI:Russia has started global sanctions on Turkey We should have an analisis of the sanctions tomorow on thesaker.isor goatfcukers
"Thank God for Putin, the leader of the Free World!"
Simplistic thinking is part and parcel to where we find ourselves...
Exactly; that's why after discarding simplistic thinking and doing COMPLEX ANALYSIS, readers on Zerohedge support Putin as the leader of the free world, that is what's left of it.
After spending thousands of hours researching current events and their causes, understanding that 911 was an inside job run by the CIA and Mossad
http://911blogger.com/news/2007-04-04/follow-%E2%80%9Cprior-knowledge-911-attacks-overheard-hebrew%E2%80%9D-story-fbi-looks-documents-where-they-cannot-be-found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKtnqH47tA
and that cell phones calls don't work on planes flying 500 MPH at 35K feet (so that our Governments story is complete in your face bogus crap) and realizing that 1400 foot tall buildings shouldn't form a crater when they collapse by gravity unless they were exploded out at their core (pause at 1 minute 17 seconds)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJUP-Ry7d0
and that the 1993 WTC bombing was an inside job that has even been exposed as such yet still my brain dead, stupified countrymen do nothing (start at 3:50 to hear the juicy stuff):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M8QtYTplyk
and that Vietnam was a war started on lies by the US that ended up killing and wounding over 5 millions people, the conclusion is that the US is run by evil dwarf bankster idiots.
Vietnamese are still suffering from consequences of using chemical weapons of mass destruction on them (Monsanto's Agent Orange), which is a war crime no one was prosecuted for...
and these war criminals ('Muricans) are the pillars of the world's peace and democracy? whatta horrific joke :-P
That's true.
Buuuut, the realllllly good thinkers ... like you and me ... are totally fucking powerless and irrelevant.
Seems like Putin is the next-best-thing to a decent man, in a world full of shit.
we are not powerless - that's just what kleptocrats, priests and other mafia want you to thik
The USA is the world's largest dope dealer and the wars in the Middle East have been to corral the heroin trade in Afghanistan, the meth (Captagon) trade in Syria and Saudi Arabia and the hash trade all over. The Bush family makes the final decisions on dope dealing. As Putin well knows, the first target of the cruise missiles in Raqqa was a giant Captagon factory that shipped the drug to Europe. Captagon to be sold by people like those killers from Molenbeek, Belgium.
Do you have a link about the Raqqa factory? The Captagon story needs WAYYYYY more attention.
The King in the North!
Protector of the realm.
I won't get many fans here, but I'm not so sure that Vlad isn't just part of the Globalist plan. As many here recognize - events as reported (by any source) are not necessarily thruth or fact based. Who would know?. Certainly not me. I come to this site daily to get a source of my info.
Vlad seems to be the person bringing a "honesty to war" if there can be such a thing. Is that where we are at? That Vlad is the cleanest shirt in the dirty wash basket.
12 months ago, I knew or thought nothing of the "Globalist agenda". But now, I believe I have a balance.
I'm just not comfortable with anything any more on the world or local stage. I get angry when I listen to the "national news" here in my country. It just smacks of the Globalist Agenda.
I have taken precautions (some would call it prepping). a) if everything turns to turds then those nearest me have options, and b) if nothing happens and life &/or asset values rise then we also have options. Hedge according to your own beliefs and reasoning.
Good luck.
You seem to be presupposing that there is one unitary group of globalists calling the shots.
Why not several groups, with varying degrees of overlap?
Surely banking dynasties and old royalty comprise much of the global elite but isnt it possible that there is a constant jockeying for power?
I would expect such people to clash now and then.
Money overcomes bloodline loyalty. Look at the kings of the European countries involved in WWI.
Mr Putin is being way more ambitious than his economy allows.
Food for thought.
It costs him almost nothing to use up military surpluses and burn oil which he has in abundance.
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...
I am not so shure about that.
When I read this I became a little suspicious about Putin.
http://redefininggod.com/2015/11/lets-cut-the-crap-vladimir-putin-is-hel...
Excerpt:
PUTIN AND 9/11
Even if one looks at Vladimir Putin from a naive, conventional perspective, he is a former KGB officer and is therefore fully familiar with the concept of false-flag terror. This being the case, it would not have escaped his attention that on the day of the 9/11 attacks, three New York high-rises fell after only two were hit by aircraft. So as an intelligence professional, he would have known that something was fishy on the very first day. And in the days following the attacks, Russian intelligence merged with holes in the US government’s official story would have made the inconsistencies quite glaring. This raises an obvious question…
Why did he spend the next 14 years playing along with the 9/11 “Official Story”?
I replied to the first comment and endet down 40 comments from thsi .
What a shitty system.
What happens if he says it was a us/israeli false flag? The media then leads a call for a new investigation?
This is an absurd non-critical criticism.
http://youtu.be/QphxGBXiA-M
I am continually amazed at how I find Putin seems / sounds sensible, reasonable, logical, and "normal", while Obama, Clinton, Hollande, et. al. sound absurd. I am born in the USA and wonder really WHAT IS GOING ON?
The Ziocaine is wearing off.
The Vice Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs was in Ankara when the Turks shot down the Russian Su-24. He was there to oversee the operation.
The Vice Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs was in Ankara when the Turks shot down the Russian Su-24. He was there to oversee the operation.
Yup, Turkey just served as the Pentagon's proxy puppet.
The Pentagon is concerned about their power, not the "safety" of the U.S.A.
Love it, even ex-KGB underestimate just how big of assholes run Washington and the MIC, this rabbit hole goes so deep you would need three S-400's in burn stages to hit bottom of the pit of lies fueling this bullshit. Have a good Thanksgiving things may get interesting by the next one.
The Turks are being proxied, and Putin knows "full well" what the NATO treaties are drafted around.
The public isn't going to fall for this bullshit.
The Chinese seem un-usually quiet? I can hear the crickets chirping....chirp...chirp
if the Chinese have all their ducks in a row, perhaps its best they dont make any noise that may cause the ducks to move?
The Chinese are quietly re reading their book, The Art of War, while they bide their time. I'm certain there is a verse or two for just such an occasion...after all, they wrote the book.
If not, it will be added.
IMF meeting on Monday to admit the Chinese Trojan Horse into the city - will they do it? Or will they refuse entry and splinter the world in the process?
Me thinks China is supplying the money for Putin , they just sold off about 500 billion in treasury's about 4 or 5 months ago , ho the irony America is funding both sides.
If you won't turn your transponders on, you'll get shot down
Ok, so you go shooting this Russian system over turkey and you'll see what happens, that s400 system will be a pile of steel rubble in about 24 hours after its use.
A few Turkish planes will be lost but Russia will lose several air defense systems which cost a bucket load more than planes.
And once again Russia provides the means test for America to test the abilities of the s-400 without having to fire a shot. Nice.
Neither you or I really want that to happen do we... Best for Nato, MIC, Erdogan and the rest of the liars to leave Assad alone and go find a new playground
Your stance may be admirable,
but pissing in the wind,
"Best for Nato, MIC, Erdogan and the rest of the liars..."
serves no one (with good intentions).
That is the inflection point -- where realizing that pissing in the wind just makes you wet,
feeds the chaos,
and steals thought and energy from preserving the framework and concept.
Russia will also be doing ELINT on all coalition and Israel now
Turkey reported to have grounded airforce
http://southfront.org/vks-russian-federation-has-annihilated-the-militan...
Nigga Erodgan is scared ?
More likely the US MIC. They don't want to risk ruining the 'invincible' reputation of their F-16s etc. An F-16 crash-n-burn video does not make a good sales pitch.
The rebels in Yemen, have already shot down two F-16's, that I know of. One Saudi,and one from Morocco.
Then Turkey and whoever else was involved will experience Russian cruise missiles.
These kind of games can be played with 3rd rate militaries but not someone like Russia (or the US).
Exactly BarkingCAt, exactly. These games can only be played with 3rd rate militaries and coutnries not countries like the US or Russia. We are still thinking that we can somehow "trick" Russia into doing what we want and or scold them like we are dealing with a third world country and thats BS. Turkey wouldn't have did what it did unless it had the okay of the US and Russia knows this. So they are going to make Turkey it's bitch by flying in and out daring them to try anything and the US will do nothing. Thats the problem of being a proxy, sometimes you get sacrificed and I see Russia even attacking any and all infrastucture in Turkey that helps the leader of the country and his son in ISIS profits.
too fucking right!
Turkey shot down a Russian plane over Syrian airspace citing hot pursuit as the legitimising factor.
So thanks Turkey for so emphatically clarifying the rules. Go for it Russia; chase ISIS as deep into Turkey as you see fit (noting by the way that this road leads straight to the presidential palace), and treat every single Turkish fighter jet as the ISIS air force.
BC, is this you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP3gzee1cps
Tell your handlers at the Ministry of Truth that this isn't "The Hill". Meat Puppets like you stick out like sore thumbs on ZH and convince NO ONE, LOL.
If I have misjudged and you are merely a misguided little sheep, then I apologize for accusing you of being propaganda wh0re, when you are merely a useful idiot ;-)
Say Hi to Josh for me.
Shills don't know about nuclear warfare, apparently.
ItstheTiming, or ItstheNonsense? You will see what happens: The S-400 tracks and eliminates aircraft in under two minutes. This Air Defence System was deployed specifically because of its advantages in the cost-benefit analysis - it's a relatively low cost weapon that renders all existing MILAIR programs obsolete. You want some, come get some. I'm sure Vlad is "Getting Popcorn Ready" - this is gonna make for highly entertaining television.
It's the timing I think you need to be commenting on Facebook.YYour IQ is too low for ZH. You must have stolen someone else's key to get in. Now Fuck off.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever."
Thomas Jefferson
Uncle Joe has got your back.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/joseph_stalin.html
usually the cost of an aircraft is way more then a Air Defense system.
and i am just guessing but attacking an s-400 system manned by russians with f-16s flown by turks seems wrong somehow. it is, after all, an air defense system. missiles maybe; planes, probably not.
"A few Turkish planes will be lost but Russia will lose several air defense systems which cost a bucket load more than planes."
LOL You're going to have to get those Turkish jets in the air first...maybe they can retain some 'ISIS suicide pilots' for that mission
sorry dude, but Russia is in Syria for the simple reason that this is the end of the line. Russia will start seriously laying waste to their enemies if this shit continues. Their patience is now exhausted and they are preparing for total war. I would monitor the Russian construction of new fallout shelters as a sign of when to start packing a suitcase. The US has been taken over by a clique of Zionists who want to use the US like a dumb Golem to impose Israeli rule over the world, fulfilling Rothschilds and their rabbi friends wet dreams. The Russians have been given no viable alternative except to restart the world. Russia will attack any Israeli plane that flies into Syrian air space. Russia exists over 12 time zones or something and the people are tough and resilent. Russia knows Israel is the hand behind the actions of the US adn hence behind the actions of ISIS. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states are next on the Russian list. Russia is not the Soviet Union that was ideologically split and was not willing to defend any ally. After the fall of teh USSR, Russia lost their buffer states, thus making war with the US alliance an eventuality due to the relentless expanson of Nato and overthrow of regimes in the Ukraine, Libya, and the attempted overthrow of Assad.
By positioning the cruiser Moskva and nuclear subs off of Syria's coast, Russia has effectively placed dozens of nukes on Israeli's border. Russia will start shooting Israeli jets down if they try to attack Syria. Once Israel is spanked hard by the Russians, the US generals and admirals may act like the wicked witch of the wests castle guard after Dorothy melted her; they may turn around and arrest all those dual citizen traitors like Zelikow and Chertoff. The shreiks of the dual citizen Zionists for revenge will split the US establishment and weaken teh Zionist faction
Chesed Golem incident proves that Israel was behind 911 and Russia knows who runs the US foreign policy, banks, media, and industry.
http://911blogger.com/news/2007-04-04/follow-%E2%80%9Cprior-knowledge-911-attacks-overheard-hebrew%E2%80%9D-story-fbi-looks-documents-where-they-cannot-be-found
You do realize the cruiser Moskva is very close to the russian airbase in Syria now and has 64 S-300F missles of it's own? If Turkey attacked the airbase, it would end up being shot at by the Moskva as well, which has more than just surface to air missles on board. Thus Turkey would need to fire on the Moskva as well, to clear the threat to its aircraft. If NATO wants a open war between itself and Russia, which could quite quickly go nuclear, this is the way to go about it.
I suppose that escaping Turkish jets won´t find an airstrip to land.
Oh they will land alright. In a million fucking pieces all over the place.
Actually, I understand that the Russian defenses are deeper yet. Remember the one and only Chinese carrier is now backing up the Moskva cruiser in the Med. So we hav e US, French and Chinese carrier standoff...with full fighter wings.
Beware the Lamb!!!
Those small littoral/coastal ships in the Caspian Sea can also hit anything in the area with those Kalibr M aka Club - K cruise missiles. The anti-ship versions are especially nasty because they hit supersonic speed a bit before it gets to it's target (ship).
They can be put anywhere. Truck, train, container ship, storage lot, jungle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbUU_9bOcnM
They need to spark these up on Erdogan and his stooges. Take out his palace. I would be most Turks would cheer.
If Turkey attacked the airbase, then total war between Russia and Turkey is on and NATO would not be able to summon the political will to defend Turkey (assuming the Russians dont use nukes) after they attacked Russian military assets and killed hundreds of Russians Russia would destroy Turkish military assets and Kurdistan would be created out of part of Turkey.
The airbases launching strikes on aa batteries would be hit with cruise missiles and advanced fighters would be sortied that, first few dances, overwhelm Turkish f16 classics.
Kurds act in concert (?).
So now weve got a real war, nato declares.
That means china, that means offense from them in the pacific.
Its all bad outcomes for everyone but the war profiteers.
just.. please... you forgot the porn link.
All the propaganda we've been taught as "history"
What you were taught.
Don't judge your bad education as a means to everyone else's.
You may want to revisit elementary grammar. You're running on about a 3rd grade level.
ESL using google translate. Wish we'd get some classier trolls.
Miffed
I thought it was star wars speak !!!
Botspeak
Miffed --nice to see you again!
How long will it take for the "coalition" to start bominbing things other than ISIS I wonder. They cannot be that mad.
This is not about Assad or ISIL. These are just the regions where other matters are being attended to.
This entire matter in the Middle East has nothing to do with bad regimes.
Nuclear weapons for offensive use against the USA are already here on US soil. As well these weapons are for use against Russia are already in Moscow.
There hasnt been a nuclear war because no one can win one due to the positioning of the weapons.
What is transporting right now in the Middle East and with China determines who will survive an initial attack and who can respond, leaving a clear winner.
Oil is not the end all game - the stakes are much higher.
In the brain a complete mess.
All his base are belong to US
What is "Transporting" to the Middle East, is more game pieces... what is TRANSPIRING is a chess match between Russia and the US (and obviously the western global elites pulling strings).
What is also transpiring is that Putin is doing his level best to expose what Washington is up to... the whole criminal enterprise... and what their confederates like Turkey are really doing at the US behest and why.
Tell the boys in Washington they better move their plans for war along quickly before more truth leaks out into the greater population.
thanks for telling us, somewhat haltingly, that "Nuclear weapons for offensive use against the USA are already here on US soil. As well these weapons are for use against Russia are already in Moscow."
i won't ask for any proof of this. you obviously are knowledgable in such matters and i am convinced at first reading.
I thought that that was assumed. That years ago, we had planted nukes in Russia, and that Russia had planted nukes here - and that that was part of the reason we have not had a hot war. Doesn't that seem very likely?
Portable nukes are intended to create chaos and confusion behind enemy lines... not destruction of the enemy. Their extremely low nuclear yields are on par with other small tactical nuclear devices. The reason the USSA & USSR did not have hot war was their respective strategic nuclear triads.
Bad regimes US installed. Period.
we can't have a nuclear war because it will destroy the planet and everyone in it ..
nuclear bombs creates holes in the earth atmosphere as well as modifying its very structure, TPTB knows that and will never use one once again !
It seems to me that the attack on Paris gives France "the right" to join in the aerial bombing of ISIS positions in Syria. But, did Syria invite France in to do so? And now Britain wants to join in--did they get a request by Syria to do so? Isn't all this just a pretext to prevent Russia from closing the airspace over Syria, so that the US can fly in too, anytime it wants?
It's all very convenient -- too convenient. ISIS is nothing more that a motley crew of mercenary bandits doing the bidding of the CIA.
Perhaps France believes the US has enabled ISIS to attack Paris
Thus France jumping sides to allow them to attack ISIS at their base of operations
I mean with someone who is actually striking them firmly
Lots of back stabbing going on.