This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
US Blames Afghanistan Hospital Massacre On "Malfunctioning Sensors," "Human Error"
Early last month, Green Berets battling to beat back a Taliban advance in Kunduz, Afghanistan, apparently decided that in order to rid an MSF hospital of some “insurgents” who were apparently hanging out inside, they needed to call in an AC-130 gunship. The aircraft made five passes on the way to engaging the building for an hour, eventually killing dozens as tends to happen when advanced air assault technology squares off against unarmed people lying on gurneys.
Subsequent reports would reveal that the US fired on fleeing doctors and others who were running away from the building. Here are two short videos which should give you an idea of what kind of hell patients and staff must have gone through on October 3:
There were competing accounts as to what led to the incident, but at least initially, the military claimed US SpecOps were taking fire from the hospital.
On Wednesday, the US walked back that story. Speaking at a news conference, U.S. Army Gen. John Campbell said the crew of the AC-130 mistook the hospital for a government compound that the Taliban was allegedly using as a prison. "This tragedy was the direct result of avoidable human error," Campbell said.
But it wasn't just "human error," Washington is also blaming - get this - "malfunctioning sensors."
AP, who've been all over this story pretty much from the beginning, has obtained a summary of one of several investigations into the incident. "Witnesses differed in their versions of how and why the strike was authorized," the report says. It also indicates that the SpecOps commander who called in the strike "had been given the coordinates of the hospital two days before but said he didn't recall seeing them."
AP continues: "Investigators found that the aircrew continued the attack despite observing no hostile activity from the hospital, operated by the international group Doctors Without Borders. It found no evidence that armed Taliban were operating from there."
According to Campbell, the AC-130 crew's "targeting sensors malfunctioned" and so, they did what anyone would do in that situation, they decided to eyeball it. Back to AP:
Gen. John Campbell, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, said the airstrike was supposed to have been directed at a nearby facility being used as a Taliban command center but the warplane fired at the wrong building.
After the plane's targeting sensors malfunctioned, he said, the crew relied on a physical description to home in on the target.
As absurd as that most certainly is, it's made even more ridiculous when you consider that "no Americans on the ground were in position to see the hospital." Of course even if they were, this isn't some modern metropolis we're talking about here where the buildings are easily distinguishable by their unique architecture. As you can see from the folllowing images and Google map of Kunduz, it would be easy to make a mistake if one were going by "a physical description of the building":
AP goes on to detail the report's account of the incident: "The AC-130 was sent on short notice after a report of 'troops in contact' [and] as a result, the aircrew did not get a pre-flight briefing and was not given a list of protected facilities on a 'no strike' list that should have included the hospital."
The story then goes full-computer-glitch-retard:
During the flight, Campbell said, the aircraft's electronic systems malfunctioned, preventing it from transmitting video or sending or receiving email. That meant the Air Force controller on the ground was hampered in aiding the targeting.
The AC-130 crew was given the coordinates for an Afghan intelligence building about 450 yards from the hospital, where Afghan forces were said to be in danger. But because the plane had moved to avoid a missile, its targeting sensors were off, and they pointed the crew to an open field.
The crew then relied on a physical description relayed by the commander to find what it thought was the right target.
So, let's see if we can sort that out. The AC-130 was called in but was unable to get good on-the-ground intelligence because their e-mail was down (so we suppose that means that under normal circumstances, soldiers e-mail planes with instructions). Next, the plane dodged a "missile", which threw its targeting sensors off and so according to The Pentagon, this AC-130 was flying blind with faulty targeting sensors into a warzone. Next, the crew did its best to remember what the ground forces (and now the US says it was actually Afghan troops that called in the strike) said about the building's physical appearance on the way to finding "what they thought was the right target."
But it gets worse:
When its computer eventually found the correct coordinates, Campbell said, the crew ignored them because it was "fixated on the physical description of the facility."
So basically: "to hell with what the computer says, that nondescript building is a terrorist hideout if we've ever seen one."
Immediately before firing, the aircrew relayed the coordinates of the hospital, to its headquarters, where officers knew it to be on the no-strike list, Campbell said. But nobody realized the mistake in time.
Does that mean the logistics team didn't even bother to check the coordinates agains the no-strike list? It certainly appears so. And finally:
The plane fired 211 shells over 29 minutes before commanders understood the mistake, according to the military report. Doctors Without Borders contacted coalition military personnel during the attack to say its facility was "being 'bombed' from the air."
It took 17 minutes for special forces commanders to order a halt. By then the attack was over.
All in all, just another day in America's highly successful war on Islamic extremists and dangerous militants. It's worth noting that if Russia had "accidentally" done this in Syria, the Western media would have made it a front page spectacle and the outcry from the US and its allies would have been loud and long.
One can only hope that going forward, US aircrews will think twice before relying solely on "physical descriptions" of targets before vaporizing nearly three dozen people. We close with a quote from Doctor's Without Borders:
"The frightening catalog of errors outlined today illustrates gross negligence on the part of U.S. forces and violations of the rules of war."
»
- 410 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
- advertisements -
Hilary, "What difference does it make" Obama, "We euthanized some folks"
Not US Not US, the liar cocksucker Obama et alii
No it is the whole USA. Name one person standing up against this besides maybe Snowden, Putin and a few others.
The whole USA govt is corrupt. The Bibi "cuckservatives" at Free Republic love OmbaTrade cheerleader Ted Cruz who also loves H 1-B's.
Snowden is a limited hangout and Putin works for the IMF and BIS.
There are no "good guys" anywhere, in any .fedgov.
And "free republic" is more spook central than anything.
General Campbell should be cashiered from the service for gross incompetence. But that only happens in Obamaland if an officer refuses to carry out illegal orders. The general who ordered the Seal Team 6 mission on 6 August 2011 that led to the deaths of 30 Americans is protected by Obama's minions.
Meanwhile, Captain Heather Cole was arrested and fired after she refused to release the launch codes for a planned military strike on Russia.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/5/obama-stonewalls-seal-tea...
http://conservativepapers.com/news/2015/03/22/is-obama-planning-to-nuke-...
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...
To put it into perspective, the A$$holes at National Progaganda Radio had a guy from the Wall Street Journal on last night to explain how this happened??? The Wall Street Journal??? Does anybody else wonder why the WSJ is a recognized expert on military "mistakes" and why they were deemed to be so trustworthy a source???
Sickening...
We malfunctioned some folks...
"The dog ate my homework,"
OH sumpin's malfucking alright......... like the western whores of government..... how did we ever let it get this far?? ( he utters as the blastwave incinerates the house)
Maybe O'Bama will resign this week?
What year are you referring to, maybe 2030?
Benjamin Fulford reported this hospital had become a drug trafficking operation. And was bombed by the 'good guys'.
Can't take everything Benjamin Fulford says as gospel though.
Good reason to watch it, not bomb it.
So you can be certain that the CIA guys running the operation are making it to work on time and not sluffing it.
Drugs....in a....hospital. Who fucking knew?
.... so by this logic it was just a drive by in a drug turf war?? Yeah sounds about right ......
The US would never bomb one of its own buildings.
Every hospital is a drug trafficking operation.
The only thing that malfunctions is their brains.
Cannot fix stupid.
It's not stupid, it's psychopatic.
That as well.
broken pixel on the monitor stuck on red.
Postit covering the hospital sign.Kill everone written on it.
Postit with my password on it, covering the hospital sign.
This is the heroism it takes to allow us the freedom to watch football that we all take for granted?
And Obama blames his double-tap droning of women and children and wedding parties on whom? The deranged mass-murderer Putin?
America's deadly double tap drone attacks are 'killing 49 people for every known terrorist in Pakistan'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208307/Americas-deadly-double-t...
Pentagon report whitewashes bombing of Doctors Without Borders hospitalOn Wednesday, spokesmen for the US-led occupation of Afghanistan outlined findings from an internal military investigation into the destruction of a large medical center in Kunduz, Afghanistan, carried out by US forces in October.
In contradiction to the claims of Doctors Without Borders (Médecins Sans Frontières, MSF) and of numerous victims and eyewitnesses to the attack, the US military is claiming that the hospital was targeted out of “human error.” US forces were actually attempting to attack a supposed Taliban position, located several hundred meters distance from the MSF center, the US military is asserting.
In the two months since the October 3 attack, the US military has already assembled an impressive record of lies and prevarications on the issue. During the days immediately following the attack, the DOD repeatedly altered its explanation for the incident, offering a series of narratives to the effect that the Afghan forces were partly responsible, the US troops were exhausted from combat, Taliban were thought to have occupied the compound, etc.
On Wednesday, General Campbell set forth a version of events that rehashes these various excuses into a convoluted narrative clearly tailored to shield the US government and high command from criminal prosecution.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/11/26/kund-n26.htmlhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-alcsOr9HzYY/VivVy77uKII/AAAAAAACN_g/EMS17Vu9W5...
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
If Uncle Sam can intentionally slaughter Muslim first responders and civilians aiding the injured, the the Palestinians are equally justified in intentionally slaughtering Jewish first responders and civilians aiding the injured.
One of these days, humanity will come to its senses, or it will cease to plague the world.
For Trillions in military purchasing: What the US MIlitary wants, they get.
If it offends the PR, another excuse can be made up.
Some careers just got severely truncated. The gunship crew should be court-martialed.
should be but wont.
Why are the foot solders seemingly always allowed leniency:
they are following orders.
Ain't no thing for these phukers, Total waste of space Harry Schmidt dropped a 500 pounder on a group of Canadians carrying out night training in Afghanistan in 2002; despite being warned off several times by his controllers, said he felt threatened, not much really happened to his smug ass, though he did lose his wings apparently what he should have felt was the warm comfort of a 661 grain calling card right there in his fucking flight suit maybe that would loosen up that fog of war feeling......
Although not feasible, one could almost say the same for anyone who VOLUNTEERED to participate in the armed forces of a nation as clearly reckless and belligerent as US's.
War profiteers DO NOT CARE who dies, as long as it is not them.
"It all makes sense expressed in dollars, pounds and cents".
US Scum... eye for an eye.
A US hospital should be leveled in return.
in the end there are many years of hatred to return to USA... it will be painful, and rightly so
Omega_Man
"A US hospital should be leveled in return. "
Two wrongs do not make a right.
Killing innocent people is never right.
"The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury" - Marcus Aurelius
"Don't get even - get better." - TWD
If the US had actually fought ISIS as well as it fought these doctors, nurses and patients, the whole ISIS thing would be over.
opps we killed a hospital ooop we killed another hospital
time give each other more nobel prizes
Plus the attack went on for an Hour, and the whole time the MSF doctors were calling the US Military and shouting "STOP KILLING US!".
And the US Military was all like "WHAT? WHAT? CAN'T HEAR YOU! WHAT?".
So obviously another reason might be that the MSF guys weren't talking loudly enough, or the US Military dude is hard of hearing.
MSF gave them the coordinates of the hospital.
The air farce bombed them anyway.
Sort of like what our police do.
Kill, investigate themselves, and find themselves innocent of all wrong doing.
And by the way, they want more money to keep doing it.
Its a bananaless banana republic, you know.
twat,twat i cunt hair you. cum a titty bit closer, i must have an ear infucksion, need some peniscillan, never mind i fingered it out myself
Rediculous. Uncle Satan is simply above International Law. It's becoming crystal clear for all to see just who are the real terrorists. Keep up God's work evil empire.
If the Americans were smart enough they could have said that they suspected that the hospital was hosting a wedding reception.
Shameless government pyschopaths blaming on soldiers. Fuck You Obama
"We have investigated ourselves, and found we had commited no crimes.
Now...give us billions for a stealth bomber that does't exist, and more billions for one warplane that cannot fly in the rain and another that was defeated by German, opps, 'merican back engineered 60's technology drone with a cockpit airframe, goyim bitchez."
-Air farce general dipshit
Having served in the US military in Iraq I can tell you that an AC-130 gunship is akin to a race car equipped with gattling guns and howitzers....shoot fast turn left.
We see the pictures of what that one plane is capable on this hospital. The fact that they used an AC-130 gunship on a hospital, in my opinion, is a war crime. Now someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I also remember reading an article how they sent in tanks and military personel in there afterwords to cover up evidence of what happened.
And Obama drops leaflets warning ISIS before he bombs oil trucks to avoid civilian casualties? You can't bullshit a bullshitter and Obama is stacked high with bullshit. I'm convinced Obama is tacitly supporting ISIS.
AC-130s had gun cameras as I recall.
They are flying battleships. Literally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-UCtI9-mM0
I find it so unlikely to the point of absurdity they didn't know that was a hospital.
I guess they didn't see a big red cross on the side of the building.
Or notice that it was the only building compound with all the lights on.
Awww honey, you are a war criminal as well if you served in the .fedgov military and are still sucking air.
You fought (like these dipshits) for a corporation, for corporate control of resources. You didn't fight for me or anyone else but your own ass.
Who cares what you did to cause chaos, murder and mayhem.
You are just as guilty as these ignorant fucks.
One of the main reasons we had the military there is because it is better to fight them there with our military than to have them here attacking our women and children. Unless of course you want things like Sept 11th, the underwear bomber, the boston bombers, the Paris tragedy, the Madrid bombing, etc etc etc, which it sounds like you are completely ok with.
But I appreciate your right to express your opinions that I defended. Next time one of the Islamic extremists commit another atrocity in another domestic location which is only matter of when not if I hope you recognize how truly ignorant you are as to the nature of the world in which we live.
Do I agree with war? No. But when faced with a formidable enemy such as radical muslim extremists, it is a necessary evil.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Thank you for fighting for my nonexistent rights, for banks and bankster demon spawn and the MIC, and being too corrupt and stupid to see it.
Happy thanksdroning.
Next time? In that case sterling job! Sterling!
(this is irony BTW)
Simple truth is you've been used, by domestic enemies of the United States. Not of the government, but of the people. They have been walking all over the constitution, using it as a door mat.
You weren't there to defend it.
You've been used for geopolitical and corporate profitability ends and you've almost certainly made the world less safe not more. Not you personally maybe but the US military. You don't protect from "radical muslim extremists", you create them.
Course it's been going on for decades so I doubt very much it will end any time soon. Maybe when the oil is gone and there are no profits to be had there.
If you really wanted to protect from "radical muslim extremists" then you could start by not not destabilising countries, installing dictators and propping up medieval regimes.
I'll end with your own words.
"you create them"
The crusades started in year 1051. That was when Muslims started massacring Christians.
I didn't create it the radical islamists have been been committing atrocities like this for over 1,000 years before I was born. And if you can tell me about Christians who blow themselves up to kill people just because they don't believe in Jesus I would love to learn about them because it's never happened. Radical islamists are psychotic. But have a happy thanksgiving.
Wait, so why didn't the military stop things like Sept 11th, the underwear bomber, the boston bombers, the Paris tragedy, the Madrid bombing from happening?
You seem to be running out of arguments before the discussion even really started...
The sensors malfunctioned and were able to completely destroy the hospital by making 5 passes and targeting it for an hour. Yupp, sounds like a serious malfunction alright...
In a related story, an official US government investigation has concluded that the World Trade Center towers collapsed because of pilot error.
**cough** Bullshit **cough**
Some men are brave enough to stand up and stop genocide: They were treated like shit by America after they stopped it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/my-lai-hero-honored/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkFa2lSNAGc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Thompson,_Jr.
Hugh Thompson
Larry Colburn
Glenn Andreotta
Movement from the ditch indicated to Thompson that there were still people alive in there. Thompson landed his helicopter and dismounted. David Mitchell a sergeant and squad leader in 1st Platoon, C Company, walked over to him. When asked by Thompson whether any help could be provided to the people in the ditch, the sergeant replied that the only way to help them was to put them out of their misery. Second Lieutenant William Calley (1st Platoon Leader, C Company) then came up, and the two had the following conversation:[2]
meanwhile, in Turkey, wounded ISIS soldiers have free health care courtesy of RecepOcare.
Don't forget israel.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/turkey-israel-directly-supporting...
slightly off topic, well maybe, anybody got any corroboration to the Yemeni "rebels" sinking a half dozen Saudi war canoes in the past couple of months?
I picked this up from FARS but as they say never believe the press unless you got the bastard hanging by his toenails begging for his life..... well ok maybe only my dad said that....... and truth be told he was talking about my sisters boyfriend.....
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940904000974
It's true. You have been conditioned your whole life to only believe what you see on the establishment conditioning devices.
Heavy long term viewers will doubt what they see with their own eyes if that contradicts decades of conditioning and it's impossible to reason with them.
Only a massive deprogramming effort could save America at this point. Zerohedge is the vanguard of such a program.
ZH sure helps. Hope it doesn't get "nudged".
spot on!!
Having come from a military family, I have sympathy and respect for veterans however.
And its not just zerohedge my man, theres a few others as well that are far more red pilled than ZH.
and those would be?
ZH at times needs middle ground reporting.
If we've learned anything from governments the most dangerous I formation are lies MIXED with truth.
A little more middle ground would do ZH a big favor and solidify it as a source of balanced reporting.
A big dose in the other direction creates polarization which is great for creating two very opposed forces, but does little to have the majority in the middle thrust to make a change.
Only bankers can afford the appearance of neutrality.
PS I have donated to them in the past because they have helped foreigners my government (american civilians wearing silly uniforms) attacked and bombed for no real reason.
Does that make me a terruhist?
They are one of the few NGO's that give a damn.
Sure the us.fedgov attacks them covertly (and now openly), but its not like almost all of the free! Palestine NGO's run by gods self chosen.
So we have that going for us, which is nice.
We are the evil empire!
Is it any wonder why we have failed to prevail in Iraq and Afghanistan after 15 years?
That's what they get for using HILLARY'S e-mail server!
Now, THAT sounds like the US military that friendly forces have to deal with on a regular basis.
But for the clout of "Doctors without Borders", this would kave been shrugged off as collateral damage and few people would have heard of it.
i got a speeding ticket for going like 90 in a 70 and my lawyer got it reduced so now my recodrd says SPEEDOMITOR MALFUCTION ......................any idiot knows it BS but its kinda funny with a ticket that didnt kill innocent people for a bogus war on terror
Obama just does not like Doctors without Borders...maybe he's afraid their benevolence might overshadow his own Nobel Peace Prize. Seriously....if massacreing one Medicins Sans Fronteirs hospital isnt a war crime, surely doing so twice must be. Somebody comdemn this senseless slaughter...killing is killing, Obama is a fuking war criminal up there with the nazis and Tojo.
Maybe they refused to participate in Obamacare?
The MSM are selling the idea that this must have been a terrible mistake and not a war crime, because what could possibly have been the US motive?
Left unreported is MSF's long-standing opposition to TPP, which will make vital medicines unaffordable for the world's poor. Getting in the way of TPP pissed off a lot of powerful people.
Even more infuriating, when the sick and wounded show up at an MSF facility anywhere in the world, they receive free care, without a lot of questions about whether they worship their creator on Friday, Saturday or Sunday. This too is simply not acceptable to the owners of C-130 gunships.
Peace Prize conducted an investigation and found some poor dumb republican kids from Alabama are guilty. Forward
Vlad, did you read this article? It appears that the US multibillion dollar technology failed, and is probably extremely vulnerable to the least little provocation such as low batteries, weather, nudge nudge, or intentional jamming. They will be bombing hospitals anytime there is even a minor equipment fault. US commanders will also make mistakes, use poor judgement, and "wing it". We see the results. Good to know, huh Vlad?
Give that man A Nobel Peace Prize.
War Crime. It's as simple as that. Multiple people will have been responsible for this. If they are not punished then those who fail to act to bring them to justice are ALSO committing a war crime. Then they, too, should be brought to Justice.
Until these things occur one can be assured that the world will see more War Crimes.
freedumb ain't free bitchez
Those bombs were laser targeted
No bombs.
Just field artillery attached to a cargo plane.
A flying freedom from living vehicle.
They freed the hell outta that hospital bitchez!
Well that settles it. Everyone give yourself a pat on the back and pick up a Peace Prize on your way out. Merry Xmas bitchez!
All Wars are based on:
"Malfunctioning Sensors,""Human Error"
I have an odd way of looking at stuff - some may not understand it -
If being over there is worth shooting up a hospital and killing a bunch of doctors and a lot of innocent people - then fuck it - it is just part of the price - don't even apoligize - just say you are in a war zone - so if you get blown to hell don't complain to me about it.
BUT
If being over there is NOT worth shooting up a hospital and killing a bunch of doctors and a lot of innocent people - then we should GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE.
You can't possibly have it both ways - you can't send the military into a place and ask them to blow stuff up - and not accept a bunch of innocent people are going to also be killed.
For the record I don't think being there is worth blowing up hospitals and killing a bunch of innocent folks.
Does anyone really believe this?
Does anyone have the slightest doubt that this was a calculated, purposeful attack with purpose of discouraging MSF from further opposition to TTIP and TTP?
Most American voters can't locate Afghanistan on a map. Most are watchign football or following Hollywood, or tryign to keep up with their Facebook friends.
well i'm proud to be an amurikin, where at least i know i'm free... /s
War is hell.
Unless you are a major shareholder in an arms company.
There are ~ 46 Million Pashtuns Taliban splitting the porous durand (non-existent) line border. 70% are Pakistan Pashtuns and the remaining 30% are Afghan Pashtuns. All Pashtuns are 100% in alignment with the Taliban and Islamic Sharia.
These are the Afghan Taliban and Pakistan Taliban that hate the Pakistani goverment. Ironically it is the Pakistani 'ISI' that supports their terrorism and funds them.
You'll never, ever be able to distinquish an AfPak pashtun from the east or west or south pashtuns. Only in the north are Uzbeks, Hazaras, and Tajiks (all Northern Alliance [NA] tribes are pro-India and hated by the Pakistan Army and ISI,... not to forget the entire Pakitani Muslim Gov't and overall population) speak, customs, culture, dress stand out in contrast to the Taliban Pushtuns.
This area in the Kunduz region of Afghanistan is not Pashtun Taliban territory but a pro-India tribal region!?!
Summary: The Pakistan Army working with the CIA and ISI (ISI and CIA have at minimum 20 yr old symbiotic relationship of dual [?] objectives that work for both sides?!?) ordered the hit.
This is and always will be post-Massoud's kingdom's territory... ironically, killed on the eve of '911' by the CIA and ISI that wanted a better anti-communist puppet to rule USSA newest feudal state.
You leave terrorists with excuses when you do something like this.
What if it was your wife working at that hospital - would anyone blame you for hatred and wanting revenge?
I mean, the US will offer no compensation to the victims, but will label them terrorists when they seek revenge or accountability.
This is not like Vietnam where atrocities can happen and the population has no method of revenge or payback.
How could a terrorist organization not get support from the locals after this?
They blew up a HOSPITAL for gods sake.
this is exactly why the ussa did the dirty work for the pak's ISI [pro-taliban jihadist] in northern kunduz. plenty of plausible-deniability in this circle`jerk!
check the geography and you'll see its near the border of tajikistan. massoud was an ethnic tajik that was killed on the eve of '911'. massoud headed the pro-india, anti-taliban, 'northern alliance in afghanistan.
the isi back the afpak taliban to the hilt.
as i write the jihadist`taliban are starting a regional insurgency throughout the old post soviet satellites heading west and north which has alot of super-powers in the region concerned.
interestingly, its not turkey that wants the caliphate back, but pakistan being a 95% muslim/islam theocracy
Islam is the states supreme law under sharia, thus its constitution.
this is carter, reagan, bush, clinton, bush, and obama's pakistan allied now as always with china there eternal compatriot and lover, along with a changed-is-good russia keeping its friends close and its enemies even closer?
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...
Next Ebola outbreak, MSF can stay in Paris treating the victims of the ISIS attack (sponsored by Turkey, USSA and Saudi Arabia) and then when all of Barry's family in Kenya flock to the USA for treatment we can all be in a world of hurt bleeding from every oriface in the body.
I read this story a couple days ago and pucked (not from Ebola mind you) at the complete bullshit.
1) Weren't TWO doctors without borders hospitals bombed recently ?
2) Didn't they send a US tank into one of the hospitals after the bombing for mop up ?
1) at least
2) yes.
Right. Like we believe you and your fucking sensors excuse. Butchers.
American pilots are excessively trigger-happy and irresponsibly eager to unload ordinance. In Vietnam, during the night I was on station with an Apache helicopter which had detected movement near our NDP location. Turned out to be a herd of wild pigs which the pilot "lit-up" for shits and grins....
"American pilots are excessively trigger-happy..."
A trait they share with the Turks.
Guess who trained the Turk pilots?
Boeing Apache entered service in 1986, you probably meant Huey Cobra. Also those wild pigs were actually ARVN deserters.
No! No! No! No! It was the weather!
The US is the one in the white hat. They don't ever commit the normal atrocities associated with war. Just hand out Hershey bars to the hungry-looking kids in the war zones.
Or
Homo error
Harvard educated CabalCock$uckerLiarDrugAddictObamma : 'U know sometimes I act as a jerk, this especially happens when someone gives me an intenseOrgasm(withThroat), derefore it is no matter, let everything be forgiven & forgotton, I am only a homo (on dope)'
Nobel Peace prize winner Hah ha
or a druglord's street boy